Electricity Amplification by Neo Magnet test 1

[molligemozes]

my tought is that the magnets just enlarge the current by the amount off magnets u use cause magnets emselve are already charged by electric otherwise they wouldnt be magnets but the fact that the bigger magnets u use the more power ull prolly get from it ever tried a magnet from a radio or somethin if not try ?

[harryfodder]

Did anyone else notice the voltage slowly rising with the magnets alone? Or is that just the cap recharging? Hmmm...

[nikulp68]

can you say volts not electro-motive-force.

[SuperCaviTationIstic]

The spark creates ionization of the air, creating a plasma.... Plasma is very responsive to magnetic fields. You're forcing the electric current to ionize the air and then the magnetic field of the magnets accelerates the free electrons in the plasma....Not only that, but I bet there is a slight electron avalanche from the ionized air, almost like a gray tube.

[SuperCaviTationIstic]

if it does work like a gray tube, I'd build it like one, or maybe even supplement one with magnets. Perhaps a cylindrical mesh screen (or a few of them in layers) around the spark and magnets, connected to the wire you start the spark with. So the initial spark starts the transfer of energy, and as is is pulled away it ionizes everything around it to the point that there is a large electron avalanche emitting from the screens. The key in lots of free energy seems to be electron avalanches

[CosmicGnarler]

does the orientation of the magnets matter?

[gotoluc]

Hi CosmicGnarler,

play with it and learn. if you look at the later video's you will see more experiments and in the description box next to the video a link to the Forum topic with more details.

Luc

[Rotitomato]

12v 7amps= 84 watts that you're feeding into it. If you go up to a 180 volts have you got 0.5 amps left, that is 90 watts of energy? If you did that would be very interesting. Try to light up a 100w light bulb....just an idea.

[fdoca]

Hello Rotitomato,

can u show me how to caculate the left enery in watt? i mean the formula, Thank you.

[Rotitomato]

I'm just using the formula according to the book, multiply the voltage by the current. You'll find it under Ohm's law.

[gotoluc]

Hi trogusman,

I bought it on eBay. I buy most of my stuff there.

Luc

[trogusman]

can u show me where you got your spindle of copper? the big one? website?

[PhotonDrive]

Luc: Changed my mind! Not flux HEAT! Why Currie temp. 1300 & not 3500? Why BORON (10,000?) in Neos? Room temp: 75* - but freezer in room? -40*. Candle near freezer? 600*! Hold on to that analogy - it explains much of our trouble from back-EMF heat & need to avoid it! Iron domains affected - even far from melting point: INSIDE EARTH & elsewhere!

Montreal - east end. Hope you can do some larger-scale, road-destined projects (I'm pretty alone here).

[gotoluc]

Hi PhotonDrive,

I had a look at your Mag Amp Gen. Very interesting work you are doing. I live in Ottawa, where do you live?

Luc

[PhotonDrive]

I would call it SURGE, rather than EMF- since it is temporary.When you static-charge a Cap. it always goes up from zero. If you put 27,000uf it will go up much slower! I agree flux is involved, flip mags to see if result changes? Same arrangement can drive Wheel-hub, if you rotate mags. inside coils freed from the transformer. See my "Mag Amp Gen" vids to see some results with different circuit arrangements. Please suggest improvements - since I am now moving up to 48v systems.

[megavox]

Great work Luc ! Keep it up.

Did you see what magnacoaster's Richard Willis is doing? See his website and go to "how it works"

The sound change might be because it's an implosion? It might be Endothermic versus a standard exothermic Electric Discharge. Is the magnet surface cold after?

And with the spark being blue versus white? Then it should be radiant spark/charge you are collecting on that cap.

An yes it's seems like it's acting as a charging choke a la Stanley Meyer/ Tesla.

[gotoluc]

Hi megavox,

thanks for your post and mentioning Magnacoaster (Richard Willis) I looked at it and had seen his stuff before when he use to post at the Overunity topic.

The magnet in my test gets hot after some time.

Thanks for posting

Luc

[gotoluc]

Hi johnb003,

thanks for you comment. I would also like to see a couple of kv discharge going through a strong magnetic field. I may get around to doing it soon I hope.

Luc

[johnb003]

I also think it has to do with the magnetic field quenching the spark gap.

Tesla was using a magnetic field to quench sparks gap discharges from capacitors being charged with another source of high voltage. From this he could get very intense and high frequency discharges.

I'd really like see a capacitor charged up to a few kv, and spark gap between a very strong magnetic field that you can slowly reduce until the discharge happens.

[cavetronics]

When you combine the magnetic flux from the neo mag and the input power from your power supply

you have a gain as you will see the magnet has a coating around the flux and you change the amount of flux round the magnet and the BEMF supplys more to load the cap also the shorting out across the magnet couples with the power supply ...

[calfellows59]

Free 90v, 200ma, 15watts

/watch?v=Kdup42Epq0o

[cribcat1]

woa, that's a trip

[quintena]

To confirm Stafan's prognosis try pulsing with the bare wire and the nickel coin again but this time with the magnets connected in series in the same part of the circuit but away from the pulsing.

[Drevtoobe]

Hi there,

The last poster Stefan in the overunity forum got it right.

The higher voltages and bigger spark when you make and break the circuit on top of the neo magnets has nothing to do with the magnets. The top of the neo magnet is a nice clean shiny flat black surface. The top of the nickel in a rough, dirty, and partially corroded surface. Therefore your wire makes better electrical contact with the top of the neo magnet, and more current goes into the coil.

[Drevtoobe]

oopps It should read, "The top of the neo magnet is a nice clean shiny flat surface."

Continuing.... It is also reasonable to assume that when you break contact with the top of the neo magnet, you get a "cleaner and sharper" break. This makes the coil kick back the EMF with a sharper, higher-voltage spike.

In summary, there are two factors in play when you use the neo magnet surface 1) the coil has more current going through it, and 2) the breaking of the contact is cleaner.

[Drevtoobe]

You could easily prove this by setting up something better to make and break the contact without using neo magnets. Wire in a nice 12 volt automotive-style switch and use that. You should get the same or better performance as compared to using the surface of the neo magnets. Just don't do it too much because you will corrode the switch.

Finally, you are 'jarring' the neo magnets when you do this and are probably slowly demagnetizing them.

[RotogenRay]

But this small variance would double the voltage that the capacitor could be charged up to?

I would doubt that...

[gotoluc]

Hi Drevtoobe,

Thanks for looking and your comments.

Look at zerotensor explanation below. I think he has it on the nose.

Thanks

Magnetically quenched spark gap: the plasma arc is destabilized by the application of a strong magnetic field. The resulting spark self-terminates much sooner than it would in the absence of a magnetic field. This accounts for a more rapid change in flux through the inductor, and the substantially increased EMF which gets dumped into the cap with each pulse.

[Drevtoobe]

Hi Gotoluc,

You can prove or disprove what I say by getting a decent high-current automotive rocker switch with a strong spring-loaded "click" sound. The "click" means that the contacts open and close very quickly. The main reason the cap charges more quickly is because there is more energy stored in the inductor due to the higher current running through the inductor.

It is not due to the spark gap being quenched sooner due to the magnetic field. I am not convinced that is even happening.

[Drevtoobe]

There is no mechanism to explain the "destabilization". The presence of any magnetic field would simply induce the plasma spark to follow a curved path of conduction instead of a straight path of conduction. However, the spark gap is so small in length as to render this effect negligible. In addition, the natural randomness in the formation of the plasma arc is much more significant than any curving effects from the magnetic field.

What you are observing has nothing to do with the magnets.

[zerotensor]

Magnetically quenched spark gap: the plasma arc is destabilized by the application of a strong magnetic field. The resulting spark self-terminates much sooner than it would in the absence of a magnetic field. This accounts for a more rapid change in flux through the inductor, and the substantially increased EMF which gets dumped into the cap with each pulse.

[RotogenRay]

I'd have to agree with you on that.

But EMF is such a confusing term, its been used interchangably to mean essentially the same as voltage or current.

In this case, its increasing the voltage supplied to the capacitor, while the transformer inductance acts essentially the same as a charging choke.

[gotoluc]

Hi RotogenRay,

interesting conclusion!... Thanks for sharing

Luc

[overunitydotcom]

Hi Luc and all.

Very interesting experiment.

Please come to:

overunity dot com/index.php/topic,4124.0.htm­l

for the answers.

Many thanks for sharing.

Regards, Stefan.

[hoptoads]

Indeed, this is an interesting phenomenon.

Thanks for sharing.