@vbalanar real life fighting never looks as crisp and technical as pre-arranged martial arts fighting vids you see on videos. I agree though, that some of the bits here could have been done much better. . .but don't think tonfa work great irl just because they look cool on vids. They don't.
@SinJackal tonfas can work well irl, it just depends whether or not you take the time to learn them (just like any weapon). they are very offensive though, so they arent as safe as a sword for example, which gives you some range so you can be out of their range but inside yours. Tonfas make you get into striking range to attack. However, if your going tonfas vs striking range, like you see in most of these clips, theyre very effective. even if someone uses a bat, tonfas are still effective
I've heard that the side-handle reduces the overall striking power of a baton. Is this true? Also, do the defensive tactics on the DVD take into account deployment of an expandable baton with side handle?
@AaronNReece If you're holding it by the handle, then yes, because you aren't getting as much leverage as you would if you held a weapon at it's bottom. Same as when you choke up on a bat, you don't hit a baseball as far as if you didn't. expandable batons are far more damaging because of the weighted end. Expandable batons are banned for use by police in many cities, but there are no state bans on them.
@scramjet97 I would ;-). It is a good way to learn the techniques including the effect on the body. You will know exactly what is your future oponent going to feel.
Couple of the defenses in this video are a problem. The last one, with the parrying of the knife....whaaaaat? You disengage and shoot the suspect. I would have to have a serious talk with any cop that did some crap, or even talked like he would,like that with a suspect. As a drill? O.K. But, as part of the drill, it should include disengaging at the earliest, drawing and shooting the suspect with the knife. Same for that pipe.
That's right. I personally feel it'd be better if geared toward civilians. Of course, you have to learn how to conceal something like that first. Which might not be something that should be widely taught. lol
@shadownoob83 Maybe more versatile, but it's hard to imagine a police officer carrying a sword rather than a nightstick... maybe we should petition our local sheriff's offices.
drewniane to ćwiczebne, policyjne są z ABS'u ze stalowym 6 mm prętem stalowym w środku :) polskie policyjne Tonfy są firmy MASKPOL, dzieli się na 2 kategorie Tonfa prosta i Tonfa z sercem :) więcej info i materiały (pisać)
Daky: That's a mixture of police expediency, poor training, and the fact that the only time you ever see tonfa used by cops are when they are in the news misusing them (and those tend to be, yet again, badly trained officers.)
pretty sure the only way ive ever seen an officer use one of those is like a bat or club.... and the other dude never had a weapon that i saw. if the adversary has a weapon its just typical that the cop will shoot or tazer his ass.
umm... tonfas or the police baton was created with long-range weapons in mind. Bats swung overhead or to the sides are meant to be deflected the way he did. They are positioned over the forearm so it absorbs the blow. A second would be used to crunch his sternum. Karate students train using the staff against the tonfa.
Very very nicely done! Great stuff that every officer should really train how to do! I am imopressed with the demonstration speed and control with out injuries!
'no way would you use a baton against a baseball bat'
- True. Though you can move forwards before the person swings and strike the hand/wrist/arm that's holding the bat. The chokes and locks used were also quite cool.
no its best if u understand urself and the human body so that when ur in a situation instead of remembering a certain counter u learned for it learn to know wut to do without thinking just do it and thats also how u can counter counters and so on takes time for some takes minutes for others
um...and deflecting a kick with the end opposite your hand? this isn't useful in real life scenarios, which is why you don't commonly see police use them. night sticks and batons are only good for swinging, which is why only riot police use them.
it be even more cooler and effective if one uses two tonfas if it is possible
Hell6125 4 months ago
eu tenho uma tomfa de metal !!!
SuperASAS1000 5 months ago
if you guys think the normal baton is cool, check out the sidewinder baton
ihavnovids 6 months ago
Nice locking and controlling techniques !!
buddhastrike 1 year ago
bad techines....
vbalanar 1 year ago
@vbalanar real life fighting never looks as crisp and technical as pre-arranged martial arts fighting vids you see on videos. I agree though, that some of the bits here could have been done much better. . .but don't think tonfa work great irl just because they look cool on vids. They don't.
SinJackal 1 year ago
@SinJackal tonfas can work well irl, it just depends whether or not you take the time to learn them (just like any weapon). they are very offensive though, so they arent as safe as a sword for example, which gives you some range so you can be out of their range but inside yours. Tonfas make you get into striking range to attack. However, if your going tonfas vs striking range, like you see in most of these clips, theyre very effective. even if someone uses a bat, tonfas are still effective
KralleCR 8 months ago
Super
lester19840 1 year ago
the pr24 is far more effective than anny conventional aton on this evidence, very effective locks!
willz87child 1 year ago
I've heard that the side-handle reduces the overall striking power of a baton. Is this true? Also, do the defensive tactics on the DVD take into account deployment of an expandable baton with side handle?
AaronNReece 1 year ago
@AaronNReece If you're holding it by the handle, then yes, because you aren't getting as much leverage as you would if you held a weapon at it's bottom. Same as when you choke up on a bat, you don't hit a baseball as far as if you didn't. expandable batons are far more damaging because of the weighted end. Expandable batons are banned for use by police in many cities, but there are no state bans on them.
SinJackal 1 year ago
good video
musatyger 2 years ago
those are awesome
culturaleyes 2 years ago
are tonfa legal in the uk? please reply if you know!!
te1ge 2 years ago
no its not.
80KungFu 2 years ago
@te1ge no there not mate, theyre a made ofensive weapon and so illegal.
willz87child 1 year ago
0:24 promotes carjacking
duncers79 2 years ago
spinning the tonfa handle is cooler lol
BedBang 2 years ago 3
those guys are almost as good as Sun Ce with the Tonfas
BobTheSkeleton 2 years ago
wouldn't want to be the test subjects of that!!
scramjet97 2 years ago 16
@scramjet97 I would ;-). It is a good way to learn the techniques including the effect on the body. You will know exactly what is your future oponent going to feel.
upoller 2 months ago
Cool moves. Like the music too.
KyockLee123 2 years ago 2
Very interesting, just want to buy this stick and I hope that this movie will help me
kiler266 2 years ago
Couple of the defenses in this video are a problem. The last one, with the parrying of the knife....whaaaaat? You disengage and shoot the suspect. I would have to have a serious talk with any cop that did some crap, or even talked like he would,like that with a suspect. As a drill? O.K. But, as part of the drill, it should include disengaging at the earliest, drawing and shooting the suspect with the knife. Same for that pipe.
333yojimbo333 2 years ago
He lost his gun... ;(
BabelOn4infinity 2 years ago
That's right. I personally feel it'd be better if geared toward civilians. Of course, you have to learn how to conceal something like that first. Which might not be something that should be widely taught. lol
iloveasiangirls 2 years ago
Again that's like critisising a soldier for practising with his pistol, whe nI rifle would of done better.
This training has to be done, for the situations in which a gun is not feasable, or unavailable.
Of course you would disengage and fire, but that may not always be an option.
outsidepers 2 years ago
good tecniques pr 24 great video i am my training
perrote00 2 years ago
erg, tonfa and police baton? first off, police rarely use tonfas anymore, partly because they are not practical for that use.
second, its redundant.
cannabischarlie 2 years ago
Damn Imagine if we had tonfas like hibari's from KHR
RayMkIII 2 years ago 2
That'd be sick!
KyockLee123 2 years ago
i noticed many hapkido moves in this
dwillztxnew 2 years ago
Tonfa is the best melee weapon in my opinion it just does everything! (Except Stab)
felixdavidjones 2 years ago 22
@felixdavidjones it can stab if u put a knife on the end :P just dont cut urself lol
Daraaggon 1 year ago
@felixdavidjones Well you could spin it around with handle, have long end sticking out, and just punch :D
swoo456 9 months ago
@felixdavidjones katana is the best
shadownoob83 9 months ago
@shadownoob83 Maybe more versatile, but it's hard to imagine a police officer carrying a sword rather than a nightstick... maybe we should petition our local sheriff's offices.
xXDeathGuyXx 7 months ago
@felixdavidjones you could make it stab
nameloc1000 8 months ago
@felixdavidjones Actually, they make tonfa with blades on the short ends.
SaberDidge 7 months ago
its a fine choice, but not much defence against something with a long reach like a baseball bat
loveupskirts 2 years ago
Amazing.
In real life this is much harder.
Tonfa's are my number one choice of weapon.
ryuka12 2 years ago
Mine too! Sad I can't find any automatic baton with sheath, want one so BADLY!!
LuciferonYT 2 years ago
gotta love the old T-batons :)
damo1128 3 years ago
Well, now I certainly know what to do when I'm holding a tonfa and some psycho charges me with a katana. :D
WhitexLightning 3 years ago
beautiful
commander993 3 years ago
tonfa & escrima ... very powerfull!!
seanpaul4192 3 years ago
you are not dumb... you have all the reason.
sombras1981 3 years ago
i dont wanna sound dumb but in the beginning who's gonna punch u if u have a tonfa?
firefrostpeacemaker 3 years ago 3
not to sound too smart... but maybe the answer your looking for is stupid people?
maybe someone high on drugs?
drunk people...
mike123212 3 years ago
that wasnt very good you dont block with a tonfa like 2 seconds before they swing you block at the last second
climberdude77 3 years ago
they make it look so easy dont they!
GTFORDMAN 3 years ago
tonfa sucks, u cant apply wrist techniques with that bullshit. baton are more useful.
zxcvbnmbsbs 3 years ago
is there such thing as a tonfa with a blade? just wonderin.
SuperSonicXIII 3 years ago
yes the wan-k4921 is equipped with a flamethrower, 2 combat knives and 982 boxing gloves
8OM8CLOCK 3 years ago
PMSL . yes and mine is a semi auto assault rifle
themasteratarms 3 years ago
i think so
besides tonfas and batons are different cuz tonfas are usually used in pairs where as a baton is used alone
iamawesomeproduction 3 years ago
some have blades on the end, and some even have, instead of a wooden shaft, is just a sword blade, but those are rare.
Huffer777 3 years ago
I don't think so; it would probably cut your arm.
xubermanx 3 years ago
these L shaped batons are old school!
code09 3 years ago
called tonfas
GreenGold33 3 years ago
thats preety cool
but shit man, it cant stop a bullet and thats wut people uses these days
DivineBanana 3 years ago
It works well against unarmed suspects, but armed ones are handled differently, of course.
259 3 years ago
yea
i know
i was just messin around when i said that
lol
ashliamber 3 years ago
Cool.THat is a hard weapon to counter.
stopglobalswarming 4 years ago
drewniane to ćwiczebne, policyjne są z ABS'u ze stalowym 6 mm prętem stalowym w środku :) polskie policyjne Tonfy są firmy MASKPOL, dzieli się na 2 kategorie Tonfa prosta i Tonfa z sercem :) więcej info i materiały (pisać)
Paszek86 4 years ago
nc to meet u
thanasakisxxxx 4 years ago
nice
Feixue07 4 years ago
sweet where/how do i learn
SchmittySwitch 4 years ago
Ziemlicher Schrott, sorry!
Techniken gegen passive, festgelegte oder inkonsequente "Angreifer"... most of this won´t work that way!
DENDROID2 4 years ago
0:27 - 0:32 pure art
Zirkalaritz 4 years ago
i wonder if police in countries like britain,australia,japan...that dont have guns like we do here in the states use their sticks more often>>?
bearshaman0 4 years ago
pigs in aust always carry guns dude. its just japan and britain that dont like guns
SchmittySwitch 4 years ago
The police carry guns but the evil government makes it difficult for the citizenry to have guns to defend themselves.
Orkomagic 3 years ago
Daky: That's a mixture of police expediency, poor training, and the fact that the only time you ever see tonfa used by cops are when they are in the news misusing them (and those tend to be, yet again, badly trained officers.)
Secound42 4 years ago
pretty sure the only way ive ever seen an officer use one of those is like a bat or club.... and the other dude never had a weapon that i saw. if the adversary has a weapon its just typical that the cop will shoot or tazer his ass.
daky1 4 years ago 3
umm... tonfas or the police baton was created with long-range weapons in mind. Bats swung overhead or to the sides are meant to be deflected the way he did. They are positioned over the forearm so it absorbs the blow. A second would be used to crunch his sternum. Karate students train using the staff against the tonfa.
DestructoMonkey 4 years ago
That would be really useful to learn. it's like having a whatever those things are made out of forearm.
realmasterchief 4 years ago
Very very nicely done! Great stuff that every officer should really train how to do! I am imopressed with the demonstration speed and control with out injuries!
SenseiNinja2 4 years ago
...or just pepper spray the hell out of the person's face.
arngrei 4 years ago
'no way would you use a baton against a baseball bat'
- True. Though you can move forwards before the person swings and strike the hand/wrist/arm that's holding the bat. The chokes and locks used were also quite cool.
Danny6886 4 years ago
no its best if u understand urself and the human body so that when ur in a situation instead of remembering a certain counter u learned for it learn to know wut to do without thinking just do it and thats also how u can counter counters and so on takes time for some takes minutes for others
nunchakuproKoreamanh 4 years ago
um...and deflecting a kick with the end opposite your hand? this isn't useful in real life scenarios, which is why you don't commonly see police use them. night sticks and batons are only good for swinging, which is why only riot police use them.
jh64487 4 years ago
no way would you use a baton against a baseball bat. you'd have to be crazy
jf1gd2 4 years ago
or skilled
SchmittySwitch 3 years ago
Hmm. interesting, but the crappy youtube resolution makes it hard to see whats going on.
fatefinger 5 years ago
Nice and useful
mascarp70 5 years ago
that's awesome!
christiewhits 5 years ago