GSPA - Spanishiwa vs Cruncher - G2 - Pro Week 2 - ZvP - StarCraft 2

[LionelM3ssi10]

why aren't the portraits moving?

[ponieeee]

16:43 proof husky is a robot

[Soa90]

Husky + Day9 is so epic.

Its like bacon & eggs. I love bacon, and I love eggs, but bacon&eggs is twice as good!?

[MisuOfArabonaClan]

Husky stop making up that stupid voice jeez I don't even want to see your expression when you are "day9"

You're not funny

[showfire100]

@MisuOfArabonaClan ok so why you are watching hater :3

[iliketha]

fellow zerg players, fear not infestor, ultra pwns archons, fungal prevents kiting then mass ultras splash across mass archons whereas archon splash doesn't reach 2 ultras 'cos they are so big. If you are on 2 base, and don't have enough gas you can also use ling surround to prevent kiting of ultras, instead of infestors

[dr8ken]

@miauticu fuck. You. Get off youtube scumbag.

[miauticu]

if zerg attacked faster he would have won but he didn't... so he's dead :X

[4man91]

@miauticu Yah fuck you very much.

[ShadesOfGray102]

A good chance yes.

[jamchew1982]

holy shit i've never seen archons do anything like this in SC2... insane

[picklejarzz]

one of the archons had 30 kills... wtf

[namellil94]

Hello I´m a zerg! Hello I´m a protoss, and I got archons. Zerg: NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO­OOOOOOO

[o9jaSavior]

@namellil94 dude u have roaches...

[atlaswingpasaway]

@DominicLam123 uhhh, this is built-in to the map. they're neutral

[BC0RP]

Love these dualcasts

[sor3999]

Spanishwa just got Crunched

[viper2290]

why did day9 say welcome back twice?

[namellil94]

@viper2290 Bcuz he is motha fuckin' day9!

[Zephyros17]

@viper2290 cause he's day9 xD

[LuxiconLaMena]

imba toss lol how to beat archons ? :D

[thepenguinfromhell]

@LuxiconLaMena Lose, or throw a lot of units to their death trying to kill them, and then lose.

[atlaswingpasaway]

@LuxiconLaMena it was just to ridiculous producing a dozen warp gates, making a lot of archons. if you could scout the enemy and see that much gates (which is rare), then be prepared with hydras & or infestors.

[Reoh0z]

@LuxiconLaMena

I believe the correct technique is to QQ on the forums until they get nerfed like the rest of the 'toss units lately. ;)

[CDevine]

@DominicLam123 It's a custom map, prevents wall ins at the bottom of the ramp.

[srsh12345]

spanishwa is very creative but really needs refinement.

[iliketha]

@srsh12345 that's an interesting opinion, where have i heard it before? oh yeah they said it a million times in the video

[eomerseored]

zerglings don´t focufire they d fokus crunch

[HellFl4me]

infestors > archons

[xXxSTENCHxXx]

@gougerkiks i think a do pretty good for someone who works and has as social life and only has time to play 2 to 3 games every other night

[gougerkiks]

@xXxSTENCHxXx oh so you're gonna use the real life excuse because you suck?

[GDevourer]

well Zerg could win of course

[begmate]

22 people hate to be crushed by Archon xD

[tredogzs]

arkons are total bull.. they can't be touched as zerg

[modifyer2]

just saying but i think husky alone is better..

[MineRescuer]

@IneedAbttrscreenname well some people want to know who won rather then JUST how like me I live in different region of the world so It was deep night when this games were played couldn't watch it but either way if someone doesn't want spoiler he/she shouldn't look at comments in the first place yeah? I think its true lol

[grndcntrl105]

funny how they said ling run by was a bad idea. spotted zealot archon, not enough time for more banelings, lings a terrible against zealots and archons so the best use for them was to go after economy to force cruncher to pull back or go all in against 3 base soon to be 4 base with a fairly small army. spanishiwa bought time to get roaches out

[JoshacX]

Spanishiwa needed infestors with neural parasite

[dcannon23]

@sicknessscope just buy it

[billybobb442]

L2 Infestor 

[addiktion13]

Wouldn't infestors work out pretty well? I Know Spanishiwa likes to use them as well. I think putting those archons in their place would make a big difference.

[BobHaffen13]

@CptPicard85 Spanishiwa left right after the gg...

[sicknessscope]

should i download starcraft 2 or just buy it???

[Avealicious]

Ore doesn't get turned into diamonds, coal does.

[jokerisnomak]

Cruncher aka Lord_Of_The_Archons 

[aqueiro]

@jokerisnomak its more like Archons aka Lords_Of_The_Zerg

[KrnShadow65]

dam archons are strong lolz

infestors mightv done the trick... but getting up to neural parasite takes a while....

[hockeyjester12]

Counter is Infestors to control the archons. No?

[aqueiro]

absolutely ridiculous, cruncher puts up TWICE as many gateways than he can produce from, delaying his attack INSANELY, spanishiwa gets absolutely perfect banelings and destroys the horde of zealots, and bam. handful of archons go on to destroy a good 80 roaches through the next minutes. How balanced Archons are vZ

[DreIs1337]

@aqueiro To be fair Spanishiwa wasted a lot of the first attack

[aqueiro]

@DreIs1337 Yes its true he lost some lings / banes during his counter attack, but if you check it again it wasnt that much, only ~10 supply out of over 150, until he used the banes against the zealots and the zerglings for the counter attack. I was just pointing out how, after that, spanishiwa managed to get an amazing bane hit that took cruncher from 130 to 90 supply in a couple of seconds, and even after that with a high supply advantage, archons just rolled through tons and tons of roaches...

[DreIs1337]

@aqueiro True

[IneedAbttrscreenname]

@aqueiro The archons didn't roll that many roaches. Plus the archons had a +2 attack advantage, spanishiwa's roach micro wasn't the best. Besides, it was spanishiwa's cheesy play is what led to the 1,034 gateways in the first place. :P

[Jmstraubgamer]

NEver got the idea of anti-spoiler games because why wouldnt you want to see ALL of the games?

[EpicFireAnt]

very fun to watch

[UnitedVillains]

Spanishiwa is a gentleman, it seems.

[psb1964]

Fuck anti-spolier vids. what a waste of time.

[webterrestrial]

WOOOOOW Very nice games! Inspiring -- I need to get in the mix.

[RoachTheIPark]

Spanishiwa did pretty poorly this series, made some bad decisions, but i don't blame him

[TheBlacksimth]

archons are soo strong... zergs some kind of non biological unit to kill them,

[Eclypsia13]

@TheBlacksimth Or a unit that does extra to Psionic

[MrSassypantzz]

Day 9 sucks my left nut.

[Cheesemaster64]

How about you guys watch from GAME 1! They aren't spoiling anything. If the Yankees beat the Red Sox in an EPIC game, and YOU don't know about it, and YOU don't want people to spoil for you, I say BALLS. YOU are the responsible for NOT keeping up with the series. Don't say SPOILER when YOU are at fault.

If spine crawler pushes were a hot chick I'd !@"# it!

[ranDOMcaP1tAlizATi0n]

10 frickin' gateways.

[user137]

@ranDOMcaP1tAlizATi0n 12 wooping gateways.

[OddeyeDL]

Wow yet again nothing works for zerg... and zerg arent UP like wtf ever.

[GDevourer]

@OddeyeDL If he massed the roaches and focused fire he could kill archons

[smacky101]

@259 You can definitely see what you're talking about in his play though, how'd you call that? Anyways I have faith, he's a great player and will continue to grow and push zerg strategy as long as he keeps at it.

[JonasAndyK]

Why do you care about spiolers? I watch to see the actual game, i dont care who wins.

[brad0544]

@JonasAndyK And some people do. Most people do.

Your opinion is not the only "correct" opinion.

[IneedAbttrscreenname]

@brad0544 Nobody cares about your non-source assumptions either. What proof do you have that most people do care about spoilers?

[brad0544]

@IneedAbttrscreenname My proof is not being an absolute moron.

[IneedAbttrscreenname]

@brad0544 ORRLY?

Strange, because you trying to be clever and sacastically mask an insult as a form of proof suggest otherwise.

:)

[brad0544]

@IneedAbttrscreenname Lol what am i trying to mask? Hiding the fact that you're an ignorant moron would be quite a hard task. I wouldn't even attempt it.

Also, the sky isn't blue, ever. Prove me wrong.

[Hreinn91]

@JonasAndyK Some people care, I care there's nothing wrong with that

[Anubiste]

@JonasAndyK often if you really support a player it can be a lot more exciting if you don't know whether he's going to pull it back etc. It's not the same for everyone but I know when I watched some of Jinro's GSL games I was punching the air when he won because of the tension beforehand from not knowing :)

[MuToiDMaN]

I for one don't care about spoilers.

[Lavron4151]

I hate the hell out of zerg yet I love spanishiwa so much. :D

[TheMikeBase]

fucking love d9 reaction "omg amazing baneling hit going off" as if it req any skill or zerg ever trys to macro there banelings to hit perfektly.

Everyone is just using attack command hoping it hit the currect units and than start to cry that the other races are OP when they dont get it off

[TheScylent]

@TheMikeBase No, you are completely incorrect, I myself play zerg and if I have banelings I micro them to the best I can, and I'm only in silver. In Grand Masters I'm quite certain that they would be putting them on perfect move patterns so they hit their counter.

And BTW, you said macro when you meant micro.

[Thor27436]

@Savci008

crisis*

[Savci008]

@Thor27436 Yes, that. Mixed up with the name of a server I use weekly :|

[Thor27436]

@Savci008

;) on the upside, it reminded me of Crytek.

[kinosira]

Anti spoiler videos please, Husky

[Thebipolarmonk]

Archon good unit?

[everettfamily1]

Both players are low-tier foreigners and should hardly even be considered "progamers".

[bonzwah1]

watching spanishiwa makes me miss TLO's zerg play...was so disappointed when he switched back to terran...speaking of which, what exactly happenned to him? i know it was medical, but i have no idea what that means in terms of e sports....did he break his hand?

[forcytk]

@bonzwah1 he had a serious case carpal tunnel.

[divineoblivion1]

Cruncher for the first 4 minutes is probably just going, "Are you serious!?!"

[c2h2c2h210]

why not 8pool?

[paloiu123]

i dont know if its just me but i find it a major commentary kill when Day9 calls husky mike..... husky sounds so much cooler..

[FanTasticFly95]

So is it safe to say an archon zeolot army is the best way to defeat a zerg?

[DivineChaosFireblade]

0:52 Wtf? Random supply depot?

[bbowers825]

@DivineChaosFireblade Seriously? Are you that retarded that you don't know by now that all NASL and MLG maps have a nuteral supply depot at the bottom of everyones ramp to stop bunker and cannon wall ins?

[bawokoroma]

hydra range would have been useful. hydra - bling mix could have been a viable option

[KriegImBlut]

archons defenitely op vs zerg.

[P1zzaSH4RK]

What a shitty goddamn game. How the hell is Spanishiwa even considered good enough to play with the pros? Granted the entire game looked like something you'd see in Bronze, but making Roaches versus Archons? Why? Roaches suck ass vs Archons. Best bet might've been Hydralisks, simply for the raw DPS.

[IneedAbttrscreenname]

@P1zzaSH4RK Roaches can do fine vs archons. Those archons had a +2 attack over the roaches.

[RIFTonline]

@P1zzaSH4RK lol, dude, why not try playing against him then? i think u would get ur ass wooped before u could even get ur first worker out, so stfu?

[Cyrax0008]

@P1zzaSH4RK go beat Cruncher then complain about him being in bronze.

[CandyCornVampire]

I saw banelings in the video thumbnails... I like this.

[rusek001]

oh day9 i love your insight,

oh Husky i love your humor

[AdditonalPylons]

wtf are those supply depots doing at the bottom of the ramps?!!

[1337Tempest]

@AdditonalPylons It's an MLG modification to the maps to prevent cheap wall-ins and such. They, of course, cannot be controlled by any players and do not give additional supplies to terran players.

[AdditonalPylons]

@1337Tempest thx man very helpful :)

[BadcatStarcraft]

what does apm stand for?

[WEmmettB]

@BadcatStarcraft i dont know if you were joking :/ actions per minute.

[hertaru]

@BadcatStarcraft Actions Per minute.

[balzi76]

Spanishiwa couldn't hve played that out worse at hte end.

he made the hydra den and didn't use it. Are hydra's good vs archon's? I know they slaughter zealots

[trtnec]

archons finally worth it after 14 years of sucking.

[TheLegendaryHan]

this game is the most interesting game ive ever seen lol

[SuperNLNova]

it's official archons are imba vs zerg :D

[Devourer09]

@Mrvoodoochild1 Lol. No indication of skill? Lolol. Then what the fuck is the point of ladder? I guess all the players in GM were arbitrarily chosen for some reason other than their SKILL.

[Mrvoodoochild1]

@Devourer09 i shouldnt have said no indication of skill, its not a real indication of skill, and there is no pt. to laddering, laddering is only for casual players, most pros consider the EU and NA ladders a joke, and will only play on the korean servers to practice, but for the most part ladders mean nothing.

[fandanstan]

Wow, there's no zerg unit that's good against Archon

[WabaGFX]

@fandanstan Ultraulisks?

[IneedAbttrscreenname]

@fandanstan Infestors. -_-

[fandanstan]

@IneedAbttrscreenname Infestors are incredibly weak, and would get sniped before they had a chance to mind-control them, especially w/ zealots to deal with as well.

[IneedAbttrscreenname]

@fandanstan If you're supporting the infestors, it shouldn't be that hard. Spanishwa gets mind control on collosus quite a bit and that's with the collosus having a hell of a longer range than archons do. Besides when are you going to go mass infestor? They're a SUPPORT unit. If you're not building an actual army to assist them, you deserve to lose.

[GeRmAnIaNhAcKeR]

This is a game that I'd be screaming imba and he still says "gg wp sir"

[MrKimvdh]

*spoiler alert*

Boo! I hate to see Spanishiwa fall apart like that :-( Hope he wins next time!

[Pocco20]

I think day9 watches the replays before the video

[IsenseaStarcraft]

Wow spanishiwa, fail unit rallying. Way to let like 20 roaches walk straight to their deaths. >.> I expected more.

[SrgRufus]

Remind me why they buffed archons?

[fix520]

how u stop Archons o_O? as zerg...

[bigslik20]

@fix520 neural parasite would be good to at least buy time to slip lings in without getting damaged

[A1R3D3E7]

@fix520 zerg has no hard counter to archon, just outmass them or do some crazy infestor mindcontrol since they are so expensive. the problem is that you really dont know till its too late that he is going archons but if you have time you could go mutas or broods

[roseoniscool]

Day9 at 12:25 lol mixing zerg and terren

[ForsakenObserver]

@roseoniscool I think he was saying that because Zerg can't get emp he was in trouble.

[RyanStarcraftProtoss]

now that i think about it, going HTs is better than DTs if you are guna get archons because HT cost a lot more gas and less minerals, that way u can get lots of zealots while u can get some HTs for archons, im considering this build.

[arlzon]

More anti-spoiler games please! If there's only two vids in a series, you know the outcome of the second just by watching the first. Please, please, PLEASE put up some anti-spoiler videos for each best-of-x series, or concatenate a set of games into a single vid.

[hesitation24]

@arlzon stfu or gtfo

[galaxaone]

@arlzon i am going to get hate replys for this but please stop whining over spoilers( its more enoying then the spoilers itself) i am sorry but ....sigh

[reddog418]

@arlzon Or you could just watch the first fucking game instead of bitching about it. This is like saying "Damnit, Spiderman 2!! Why would you tell me what happened in Spiderman 1, I haven't seen it yet!" Idiot.

[arlzon]

@reddog418 You don't seem to understand what I'm saying here. If you read my comment correctly, you would have noted that I have in fact watched the first game and that, there only being two games in the series, I knew immediately who was going to win the second, hence my proposal. It is not uncommon for casters to put up anti-spoiler games; I know for a fact TotalBiscuit does so on most, if not all, of his SC2 casts.

[changvtw]

@arlzon or you can watch at sc2casts.com which handles spoilers perfectly.

[GogetaEX]

@arlzon I REALLY do not understand why Husky does not do this. The third video will only generate more ad revenues for him, while we also don't know the outcome. Win/win situation Husky!

[Eroxity]

Does anyone else ALWAYS thinks in his head:

"Hello everyone this is H to the Uksy Husky HERE"? Then you here "H to the Usky Husky Shaun" and almost drop your food? :o

[Muhammedloveskids]

Days 9 sounds as if he tries very very hard to talk manly.

[mbbell23]

TERRIBLE, TERRIBLE DAMAGE

[CALIFORN1ASUPERSTAR]

very very very well played

[alephnot0]

cruncher is a horrible person

[iKhicken]

@diomedesjtv

no its MC and HuK

[matrixdude171]

That was the only game I've seen with effective archons in a long time.

[iKhicken]

@LyricxFoSho tank/block with roach. DPS with Hydras. Unfortunatly Cruncher just simply overpowered Spanishiwa

[iKhicken]

@supersmashbros011

koreans makes jews like and act like turd in starcraft.

[iKhicken]

@arcwiz318

But once Zerg gets Broodlords its impossible to beat them unless u have huk-like stalker micro.

[Vega62a]

@iKhicken Not really. Anyone with halfway decent blink micro can do it.

[Polojine1]

why the fuck all the games i see from cruncher are 2base all ins

[iKhicken]

@Polojine1

because its effective.

[IamtheAlienator]

Those 2 games between Spanishiwa and Cruncher were seriously the best games I have seen in a long time. They put the fun in watching ZvP

[arcwiz318]

i hate how with zerg you have to be almost perfect JUST to be even with P. While P have more room for mistakes when they can win.

[IneedAbttrscreenname]

@arcwiz318 I'm so sick of zergs just saying shit like this. Explain in WHAT areas that zerg has to be "perfect" in order to beat toss and terran. Last I check mistakes like supply blocks, bad micro, poor macro, not scouting, or making a bad stragetic decision will kill a toss and terran just as easily as a zerg. Find me a video of a zerg losing a game simply because he didn't spread enough creep or missed an inject.. You guys act as if your race is all disadvantages and no perks of their own.

[javixm]

@arcwiz318 except when protoss has to be PERFECT to defend against a 6 pool

[kbar20103]

WHAT IS UP WITH THE RANDOM SUPPLY DEPOTS AT THE BOTTOM OF RAMPS. THEY ARE SOOO ANNOYING!

[weaselfly]

@kbar20103 its so that zerg players cannot get their ramps sealed off by pylons or bunkers and it is an absolute godsend in terms of making the game more balanced

[Smushed001]

@kbar20103 lol they are to prevent getting walled into your base, it's 20x more annoying to have cannons at your ramp that you can't destroy

[Stworek111]

@kbar20103 they are there to prevent blocking the ramp with pylons or supply depots

[TheJovanist]

"hoe ma gosh!"

[shinmeiryuux]

i feel that spanishiwa went way too low tech in this game, Cruncher was already on T3 tech and he only had roach/baneling. idk why he didn't go hydra. he had a den up already and they are damn good against gateway units

[CurtisSpiers]

@shinmeiryuux hydras melt to chargelots off creep. they're too slow, wouldnt have worked.

[kwillyou22]

I love spanishiwa. not only is he incredibly fun to watch he is also very well mannored, unlike his counterpart idra the ragewhore