Hearing Daisy took me way back to the 80s in sweet TnT. Daisy is part of TnT Christmas for real. I am so glad for my childhood there. I miss all my family at this time. Thanks to the person that uploaded this song.
soca, calypso, zouk, kompa, salsa, marenge, reggaeton, reggae, and so forth is all a variation of african, native indian and east indian music infused. the only reason we speak different languages is because we had masters of different european origin.
All people need to do is wikipedia spanish music of spain and listen on youtube to the songs. A lot of contemporary spanish folk music has been flamenco-ised. Our "spanish" music is really a coastal and eastern venezuelan style which uses cuatro, maracas, guitar and bandola. All of these three instruments sauve the guitar are unknown in spain
This the quote from Pedro Valerio: "This legacy consists of a mixture of three strains in my blood: the Caucasian, the Indian and the Negro. My father, a man of small stature, was born of white and Indian parents, and, in color and other external characteristics, would have had no difficulty in passing for a white man".
I went to the venezuelan embassy for years so I know things from their perspective. A lot of the early spanish settlers were also from venezuela such as the Farfans, LLanos, Garcia and the venezuelan embassy says that simon bolivar's sister was a trinidad resident as was francisco miranda for one year. The venezuela revolution of 1799 started in Trinidad when Manuel Gual came to trinidad to convince his sibling to leave trinidad as it had fallen in the hands of the British etc
i love daisy and i am a paranderos just like she is i am thais fares from arima girls rc band the lead singer but we doh make no money too bad but we do it for fun but i am the lead singer and i can sing check out my two songs that were written by ALICIA JAGESSAR and was sang by me and my friends rfom Las Rosas De Arima
One always have to research to be clear of the facts around us, how things began and where it is going. Our ancesters was once ruled by the French, Spaniards, British, Dutch thus the lingering of different dialects. I hope you remember the Caribs and Arawaks:) j/k. Look at the streets of P.O.S. and you find they are named after prople who once ruled in our land.
Trini's should get more involve in the culture, Parang music is so so sweet. I used to sit and watch a parang band practice when I was a little boy, Gosh, wish I had gotten involved back then, now the music run through my blood when I hear it. We have the best culture of the entire world. No where could you see Spanish, Dutch, French, Indian, African, Chineese culture all combined on one tiny island. We are letting it go and allowing other countries to cultivate and produce our pan and music.
We pay respects to the trail blazers,path finders and path openers in our tradition. Agba Daisy Voisin certainly finds herself in these categories of our folk and cultural heroes ,heroines and contributors to the development of a Trinidad and Tobago idiom.
Memories of a time when we in TnT understood when life was simpler and beautiful.Sing Daisy .....I can't help but recall dancing these songs with my aunts cousins and parents....and eating black cake and drinking sorrel.....Fun times
Omg I grew up with this song! I loved to watch her perform on tv when I was young. This song brings back so many good childhood times for me Oh Gorsh!!!!!! Give them Daisy! Give them!
im a red skin trinidaddan full spainsh trini gal and proud of it although my grandma is from venezuala and speaks no english but she loves this time of year!!!
i am trying to find another song that was sung for daisy by a band dont know their name but i remember some lyrics "we looking for daisy, we searching for daisy, flowers in hand daisy, leading the band daisy"
Trinidad was part of a province with Guyana (known as Guayana y Trinidad). In 1731, the province of Guayana y Trinidad changed and Trinidad became its own province.
Even while it was a province of its own, it was still under the captaincy of the audiencias and viceroyalties of Santo Domingo (now the Dominican Republic), Nueva Granada (now Colombia) and Venezuela.
So yes, technically, it was politically part of Venezuela for a while (also what we know as the Dominican Rep. and Colombia).
some people don't know the history of spanish culture in trinidad. what is also funny some trinidadians don't even know their own culture you don't know how many times I have to explain to so-called trinidadians about parang music. i realize some people are just not interested in their own cluture some trinidadians are brainwash into thinking that north american culture is what they should be observing.
@noirrosa yuh r righ...being ah 'cocoa panyol' mehself i grew up wit dese songs and dese atist..BUT yes plenty trinis doh kno bout parang..i mean dey ave heard parang songs aroun xmas bout dey doh kno wat it is..thats so annoyin cuz parang is ah irreplacable part of our culture!!!
@rianaadorefox you are so right many Trinis are not interested in their culture so sad. I am an American Trini my family is from Tobago and Trinidad I just Love my culture
@noirrosa There wasn't much of a spanish culture in Trinidad. Parang is largely influenced by venezuelans in the 18th century that came across to Trinidad to plant in the cacao plantations. The cuatro is a venezuelan birthed instrument and their national instrument (do research on the origin of the cuatro) The spanish in spain know nothing of parang nor of the cuatro as any venezuelan (who would call it "parranda" ) would tell you.
@cagelsthroug I don't agree with you. if you claim there wasn't much of a spanish culture in Trinidad tell that to the people in Paramin and all the people in trinidad who have spanish heritage
@cagelsthrough There was much Spanish culture in Trinidad but in small vestiges woven into the islands! There is a very good document source I could provide proving it! Many people who are descendants of indigenous Trinidadians still can speak Spanish of a colonial rural variety! Venezuelans did of course boost the island's Hispanic/Spanish heritage but Spanish heritage never left the island!
@chsn09 you are so right. I don't know where this fake Trini get her facts from. I don't believe he/she is reading the same history books as I am. Spanish and French was once the offical language of T&T all the old time calypso were sung in french or spanish and later English due to T&T change hands so many times, the british were the last to control us
@chsn09 you are so right. I don't know where this fake Trini get her facts from. I don't believe he/she is reading the same history books as I am. Spanish and French was once the offical language of T&T all the old time calypso were sung in french or spanish and later English due to T&T change hands so many times, the british were the last to control us
@noirrosa I have several history books home which I have been reading over the last few days such as the Angostura Historical Digest and the History of Trinidad and Tobago by Eric Williams. I spoke to a Lara this morning who concurred that it (parang) is venezuelan in origin. I spoke to a former member of the Lara Brothers whose grandfather came from Venezuela and say the same thing and that Daisy Voisin was trained by sb from Guiria in Venezuela.
@cagelsthrough Yeah this sounds just like venezuelan music, I'm venezuelan and this hits home. I stumbled aross this because I looked up the cuatro the lil four string guitar used by Vn and I didnt know Trinidad used it too. Then again In El Callao Vn where I'm from we dance calipso and in Patua (carribean english) slaves from Trini where tooken there during a gold rush
@chsn09 you are so right. I don't know where this fake Trini get her facts from. I don't believe he/she is reading the same history books as I am. Spanish and French was once the offical language of T&T all the old time calypso were sung in french or spanish and later English due to T&T change hands so many times, the british were the last to control us
@chsn09 you are so right. I don't know where this fake Trini get her facts from. I don't believe he/she is reading the same history books as I am. Spanish and French was once the offical language of T&T all the old time calypso were sung in french or spanish and later English due to T&T change hands so many times, the british were the last to control us
@chsn09 you are so right. I don't know where this fake Trini get her facts from. I don't believe he/she is reading the same history books as I am. Spanish and French was once the offical language of T&T all the old time calypso were sung in french or spanish and later English due to T&T change hands so many times, the british were the last to control us
@chsn09 you are so right. I don't know where this fake Trini get her facts from. I don't believe he/she is reading the same history books as I am. Spanish and French was once the offical language of T&T all the old time calypso were sung in french or spanish and later English due to T&T change hands so many times, the british were the last to control us
@chsn09 Many of those people calling themselves "spanish" were in fact actually venezuelan decendants. There were also people (I'm talking of the spanish decendants) from the original spanish colonial era but they were few. Only about 300 - 400 white spanish(these were largely POS/St.Joseph centred and uppercrust) were in Trinidad in 1797 and early 1800s justafter the British took the island. Because of their scarce numbers, Roume de St. laurent in 1780s was able to convince the spanish
@cagelsthrough To settle the island with Frenchmen.The British attracted a different type of "spanish" to Trinidad...Venezuelans left their country by the thousands in the 1800s and fled to Trinidad and largely went to the country areas to plant cocoa. This is who we refer to as "cocoa payols" and are the country spanish who brought across the cuatro/parranda music and the hallaca which evolved into our parang (an anglicisation) and the pastelle
@cagelsthrough True, many Spanish descendants in Trinidad may have ancestral connections with Venezuela, but there are some that are of native colonial Trinitario or Trinidadian Hispanic descent! Many people from throughout the caribbean and venezuela would come back in forth throughout the island! French outnumbered Spanish locals by the 1790s! But Spanish influence NEVER left the island of Trinidad! Are you Trinidadian by any chance?
@cagelsthrough are you reading the same history books as I? Spanish and French were once the offical language of Trinidad. All of the old time calypso were sung in Spanish or French. I also guess you would argue that there wasn't much of an Amerindian culture in Trinidad either? Well there is a thriving amerindian community in Arima. Around Xmas time check out places like Paramin, Arima, etc you will see what I am talking about
@noirrosa The amerindians of Arima are not a pure race as they mixed with the spanish from colonial times and of course as many venezuelans settled around Arima they seemed to have mixed with them (venezuelans also having amerindian blood) I saw a documentary of the amerindians of Trinidad welcoming some people singing "rio manzanares" which is actually a venezuelan folk song adopted here!
Unfortunately, the music here is not of Spanish origin, nor does it have very much to do, if anything atall to do with the Spanish culture. Parang is rooted in Amerindian and African culture, not Spanish culture.
The cocoa panyols where not of Spanish descent i.e a white European, rather they were workers of Amerindian and African descent from south america. It's a common misconception in Trinidad that things with Spanish names and language make it Spanish. Shaq O'neal isnt Irish.
Not quite sir....he claimed to have a mestizo, not white, father due to his fathers light skin. False claims, similar to these are common among many Amerindians throughout Latin America. Light skin does not mean any European ancestry since Amerindians are genetically similar to Asians, who have light skin, so such a feature is surely not alien to the Amerindians. This is not meant to discredit his claim, but most mestizo claims must be taken with a grain of salt.
I don't aim to discredit, I'm simply saying that there is a possibility that his father who claimed to be mestizo, was in fact 100% Amerindian. If he (Pedro V.) claimed to have a white father, then it's straight forward, but he did not, he claimed mestizo. The mestizo claim has run rampant in all former Spanish colonies due to the need to be more European and shun their wonderful Amerindian culture. Amerindians were light skinned compared to Africans, food for thought.
@jtower69 I tend to disagree in south america parrenderos is a form of music, can you give me a source for your information that parang does not have Spanish origin?
I never questioned, nor did I disagree with the music being South American. It's however, NOT a form of Spanish music i.e music of Spain. As explained before, this music came about as a fusion between the Africans and the Amerindians. This music is indigenous to that region, even though it is mostly sung in a European language...sort of like soca and dancehall is not English/British even though it's done mostly in English. This music is not of European origin, hence NOT Spanish.
@jtower69 I completely agree with you. However, I do not know if you are from Trinidad but in Trinidad the word Spanish is used for any hispanic origin. Its kind of like a slang term. So there is where some confusion can come in to play. In the states there is so many terms for like Mexican, Chicano, hispanic, Afro-Hispanic, etc. I am considered a spanish Trini but in the states I would be considered having some hispanic, spanish, or latino origin or decent.
@durfkin15 I understand what you're saying, and I do understand the slang aspect even though it can be confusing to a European like myself who understands a Spaniard to be...well what he is. But none the less, point taken, and slag it is.
Without the intent to discredit or insult you durfkin...I do hope that you realize that the terms Spanish and South/Latin American are NOT interchangeable and does NOT typically point to people sharing a similar racial profile nor culture. These are two very very different things, and Spanish music and culture is quite different from that of Latin and South America. There are various European(Spanish) influences in Latin America of course, but parang is simply not one of them.
@jtower69 I took no insult from this because I live in the states and I know in the US there is a constant upgrade of terms of identity. Slang terms or just simple terms in Trinidad is big. I am not making this statement as a whole in Trinidad because we know the difference between the terms but its all a talk. Trinidad is big on talk. So to go back to my first comment, I thought you was trini that why I used the word spanish so freely.
This is incredible! How in trinidad they adopted a spanish caribbean tradition... We in puertor rico know this as parranda however parrandas are the act of going around from house to house in christmas waking people up with songs like these using similar instrumentation so that they are fed and given alcohol hahahha caribbean tradition baby... Is it a similar tradition for the trinidarians? And are parrang singers just taught these spanish through an oral tradition?
The Trinidadian parranderos do go house to house singing and are offered food. Parranda came to Trinidad because it was part of Venezuela during the time of the Spanish rule. Parranderos in Trinidad use traditional songs which are the same as in Venezuela but they also compose their own songs.
Actually Trinidad was part of Spain and controlled by Spain originally and then the Spanish who tried to maintain controll over their rebellious colonies figured Trinidad would be better joint to the Capitancy General of Venzeula with its head at Caracas the capital ! Venezuela was connected to Colombia(which included Panama), Ecaudor, and Venezuela! This was known as the Viceroyalty of New Granada ! Trinidad remained a Spanish colony until 1797 and officially until 1814 after wars and disputes!
@chsn09 All spanish colonies were controlled by Spain. Trinidad was a part of "Venezuela" in its spanish colonial period. In 1777, the Spanish created the Captaincy General of Venezuela which included Trinidad ( do a search on the captaincy general of Venezuela) The captain general was a post mid way between a vicerroy and a governor. The captain general had control over several governors and the captain general in Venezuela controlled the governor of trinidad to a degree
@cagelsthrough Everything I stated previously was CORRECT! Capitancy General has a higher status then an Audencia! All Spanish colonies were of course controlled by Spain! Trinidad was actually from the very beginning its own Spanish colony but soon was subject to the Audencia of Santo Domingo, then to Colombia(with Panama included as part) which was known as the Viceroyalty of Nueva Granada! Trinidad was then made a seperate province of Venezuela soon after, and Caracas was the capital!
@chsn09 No. The royal decree that established the captaincy general of venezuela clearly states trinidad as being included in the 1777 administrative region. There was no "crown colony" under spanish rule. All governor run territories were under the supervision of larger administrative governors called "captain generals" or viceroys. These larger regions formed countries when they fought for their independance
@cagelsthrough "8 Sep 1777 Separate Captaincy-general of Venezuela (incl. Nueva Andalucía, Guyana, Venezuela, Mérida-La Grita, and Trinidad). " I stated that already, and in addition to that Trinidad was also part of the Viceroyalty of Nueva Grenada! Capitancy General had a higher status than an Audencia! And Trinidad was a seperate province of Venezuela eventually! Before 1777 it had been subject to the Audencia of Santo Domingo however!
@cagelsthrough Also are you Trinidadian or Trinitario? You do know that there is a saying among historians and even Trinidadians that goes like this "While the French governed, the Spanish RULED"! This quote therefore characterizes the latter years of the colonial period of Trinidad before and even upon the island of Trinidad and how it was ruled! Many whites in Trinidad or "pass as whites" are descendants of those very colonial Spanish and French Trinidadians!
@cagelsthrough "8 Sep 1777 Separate Captaincy-general of Venezuela (incl. Nueva Andalucía, Guyana, Venezuela, Mérida-La Grita, and Trinidad). " I stated that already, and in addition to that Trinidad was also part of the Viceroyalty of Nueva Grenada! Capitancy General had a higher status than an Audencia! And Trinidad was a seperate province of Venezuela eventually! Before 1777 it had been subject to the Audencia of Santo Domingo however but always in connection adhered from Venezuela!
answer to your question trinidad was once a spanish colony. We didn't adopt a spanish culture in trinidad, it is and always be a part of our culture and heritage. do the reshearch
@noirrosa You could not have said it better my friend! It is despicable how Trinidadians do NOT know their own culture! People often neglect the Spanish and French heritages of Trinidad only referring to and displaying the British influences! It is great that you know it well! Please feel free to tell me more because, ALTHOUGH I have done deep extensive research it never hurts to learn more!
@chsn09I totally agree with you or some Trini want to claim that we got our Spanish culture by way of Venezuela. Also I do believe the T&T gov't is going to adopt Spanish as the second offical language of T&T
@noirrosa Thank you my friend! Ignorance is clearly a bliss among some individuals! French and Spanish and Amerindian influences did and still exist in Trinidad! Spanish culture did also show up in Trinidad from the immigrant laborers from Venezuela better known as Coco Panyols, but Spanish culture has been native to Trinidad since the 1490s and 1500s! Also Trinidadians have influenced Venezuela also likewise!
@noirrosa Thank you my friend! Ignorance is clearly a bliss among some individuals! French and Spanish and Amerindian influences did and still exist in Trinidad! Spanish culture did also show up in Trinidad from the immigrant laborers from Venezuela better known as Coco Panyols, but Spanish culture has been native to Trinidad since the 1490s and 1500s! Also Trinidadians have influenced Venezuela also likewise!
@noirrosa Thank you my friend! Ignorance is clearly a bliss among some individuals! French and Spanish and Amerindian influences did and still exist in Trinidad! Spanish culture did also show up in Trinidad from the immigrant laborers from Venezuela better known as Coco Panyols, but Spanish culture has been native to Trinidad since the 1490s and 1500s! Also Trinidadians have influenced Venezuela also likewise
i have a friend he is from trinidad, yesterday he played this music and i was surprised this is so the same type of music we listen to in puerto rico durin christmas.i love it.
i wasnt around when she uesed to sing parang but i was grown up hearing she song every christmas....tell meh tell meh whey she gone daisy gone , daisy gone, i want to know where daisy gone
I just found out that she was my cousin :) i am sooo excited to find out that i was related to such a great person!!! :)
bklynbabygirl432 2 months ago in playlist Liked videos
hi guys, anybody know how to download this song? thaanks...
schevy74 2 months ago
@schevy74 you have to get a YouTube downloader
blusoldierwoman 1 month ago
this lady is a leggend
Bradlee297 2 months ago
say rah!!
morbidkiss91 2 months ago
Very Lovely. Can someone please write out the lyrics of this song and post it up.... the meaning of the Spanish will also help.Thanks
SamlalMannie 2 months ago
@bamala wat ever you sick in your head
baccanal773 2 months ago
I would love to experience Christmas in Trinidad someday.
Annieyogi 2 months ago in playlist Parang
@Annieyogi trust me, honey.it eh ha nuttin sweeta!!!
lol
terahbelle1 2 months ago in playlist Parang!!
parang is christmas....sharlene flores sings this sweet too
Trinisweetie1 2 months ago
Hearing Daisy took me way back to the 80s in sweet TnT. Daisy is part of TnT Christmas for real. I am so glad for my childhood there. I miss all my family at this time. Thanks to the person that uploaded this song.
sascilvn 2 months ago
This sounds very much like the music from eastern Venezuela.
SergioBorne 2 months ago
Was distant relative of my mom, Gallan/Bodi family. The Gallan's still sing parang in south.
GailAnita1 2 months ago
how i wish i were a child again
amos3323 2 months ago
anyone know where this album is available?
zybotsu001 3 months ago
soca, calypso, zouk, kompa, salsa, marenge, reggaeton, reggae, and so forth is all a variation of african, native indian and east indian music infused. the only reason we speak different languages is because we had masters of different european origin.
sonofissis 3 months ago
Gone but never forgotten.
ttrucker1 3 months ago
The voice missed EVERY Christmas ... R.I. P. ... Could never be replaced!
aguilleria 4 months ago 2
Im reading racist comments on this Parang/ Christmas vid? If you from Trinidad and you know what Parang means, like it!!!
petal2009ify 4 months ago 5
that's metal!!!!
qick07 5 months ago
GONE BUT NOT FORGOTTEN GREATEST PARANG ICON U WILL ALWAYS BE IN MY HEART
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@Bamalamaable YOU, are a fucking idiot.
evilcartman32 3 months ago
All people need to do is wikipedia spanish music of spain and listen on youtube to the songs. A lot of contemporary spanish folk music has been flamenco-ised. Our "spanish" music is really a coastal and eastern venezuelan style which uses cuatro, maracas, guitar and bandola. All of these three instruments sauve the guitar are unknown in spain
cagelsthrough 6 months ago 2
this always reminds me of goin up to Lopinot for d parang festival in 2010
tulipsrpurple 7 months ago
proud 2 b a trini big up to maria she has a voice of a tru parang legend long live her music LIVE LOVE PARANG LOL
trinibabygirl286 7 months ago
big up 2 all d trinis!
xXSiSi210Xx 8 months ago in playlist Parang / Trini Christmas
It's great to see history in Trinidad. Parang needs to be mention more in Trinidad its always about soca.
nitro300 8 months ago
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nitro300 8 months ago
This the quote from Pedro Valerio: "This legacy consists of a mixture of three strains in my blood: the Caucasian, the Indian and the Negro. My father, a man of small stature, was born of white and Indian parents, and, in color and other external characteristics, would have had no difficulty in passing for a white man".
cagelsthrough 9 months ago
I went to the venezuelan embassy for years so I know things from their perspective. A lot of the early spanish settlers were also from venezuela such as the Farfans, LLanos, Garcia and the venezuelan embassy says that simon bolivar's sister was a trinidad resident as was francisco miranda for one year. The venezuela revolution of 1799 started in Trinidad when Manuel Gual came to trinidad to convince his sibling to leave trinidad as it had fallen in the hands of the British etc
MerchantofTarshish 9 months ago 2
one home sick trinibagonian in cold Maryland, USA
samandnita 1 year ago
i love daisy and i am a paranderos just like she is i am thais fares from arima girls rc band the lead singer but we doh make no money too bad but we do it for fun but i am the lead singer and i can sing check out my two songs that were written by ALICIA JAGESSAR and was sang by me and my friends rfom Las Rosas De Arima
sweetheart4live 1 year ago
So who was it had the hit song
"The Hand That Rocks The Cradle"
in Trinidad back in the mid-90s?
BaloneyCrit 1 year ago
One always have to research to be clear of the facts around us, how things began and where it is going. Our ancesters was once ruled by the French, Spaniards, British, Dutch thus the lingering of different dialects. I hope you remember the Caribs and Arawaks:) j/k. Look at the streets of P.O.S. and you find they are named after prople who once ruled in our land.
isallhart 1 year ago
Trini's should get more involve in the culture, Parang music is so so sweet. I used to sit and watch a parang band practice when I was a little boy, Gosh, wish I had gotten involved back then, now the music run through my blood when I hear it. We have the best culture of the entire world. No where could you see Spanish, Dutch, French, Indian, African, Chineese culture all combined on one tiny island. We are letting it go and allowing other countries to cultivate and produce our pan and music.
isallhart 1 year ago
We pay respects to the trail blazers,path finders and path openers in our tradition. Agba Daisy Voisin certainly finds herself in these categories of our folk and cultural heroes ,heroines and contributors to the development of a Trinidad and Tobago idiom.
OtunbaAtoodimu 1 year ago
I remember this song when I was younger,AAAAHHHH! She VERY MISSED!
beatzessentshl 1 year ago
Memories of a time when we in TnT understood when life was simpler and beautiful.Sing Daisy .....I can't help but recall dancing these songs with my aunts cousins and parents....and eating black cake and drinking sorrel.....Fun times
ralal2003 1 year ago
@ralal2003
Sure miss that sorrel !
BaloneyCrit 1 year ago
i grew up watching her on television and listening to her on the radio
01mssexxy 1 year ago 2
you know when is christmas, when you hear DAISY
artwonder17 1 year ago 19
nice
rosaomar20 1 year ago
LEGEND
zybotsu001 1 year ago 4
Daisy in our hearts forever RIP Queen of Parang Sing Daisy Sing
TheTheo50 1 year ago 20
Omg I grew up with this song! I loved to watch her perform on tv when I was young. This song brings back so many good childhood times for me Oh Gorsh!!!!!! Give them Daisy! Give them!
69punanny 1 year ago
Auntie Daisy we your family misses your sweet voice.....................sing for Jesus now Dance Daisy Dance R.I.P Auntie
4sun2shine2 1 year ago 6
@4sun2shine2 Awwwwww boy you so right!
69punanny 1 year ago
im a red skin trinidaddan full spainsh trini gal and proud of it although my grandma is from venezuala and speaks no english but she loves this time of year!!!
keziabruce 1 year ago
i am trying to find another song that was sung for daisy by a band dont know their name but i remember some lyrics "we looking for daisy, we searching for daisy, flowers in hand daisy, leading the band daisy"
luckypatrice2 1 year ago
Esta parrandita es de Siparia! -- This little parang is from Siparia!
hewi868 2 years ago
Sweeeeeet. nice, ah love it
gospel4joe 2 years ago
i love love love her. Viva Siparia, Via Trinidad y Tobago. One love!
wytchocolate66 2 years ago
Beautiful!!!!!!!
shaudy1009 2 years ago
Ive been longing to hear Daisy's voice for years . Thanks for the post .
fayie79 2 years ago
I love and miss daisy she was the best!!
candi2082 2 years ago
ah love it
catlerina 2 years ago
Trinidad was part of a province with Guyana (known as Guayana y Trinidad). In 1731, the province of Guayana y Trinidad changed and Trinidad became its own province.
Even while it was a province of its own, it was still under the captaincy of the audiencias and viceroyalties of Santo Domingo (now the Dominican Republic), Nueva Granada (now Colombia) and Venezuela.
So yes, technically, it was politically part of Venezuela for a while (also what we know as the Dominican Rep. and Colombia).
TriniIntel 2 years ago
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catlucas66 2 years ago
sie sie sie.....a la una y la dos...aiyeeeeeeee aiyeeeeeee
classic Daisy!
gigidetrini 2 years ago
sighs...i miss home!!!!!
nikkih891 2 years ago 3
people should read before they open their mouth and speak learn our history we ent steal nothing
boygrant1 2 years ago 4
some people don't know the history of spanish culture in trinidad. what is also funny some trinidadians don't even know their own culture you don't know how many times I have to explain to so-called trinidadians about parang music. i realize some people are just not interested in their own cluture some trinidadians are brainwash into thinking that north american culture is what they should be observing.
noirrosa 2 years ago 38
@noirrosa yuh r righ...being ah 'cocoa panyol' mehself i grew up wit dese songs and dese atist..BUT yes plenty trinis doh kno bout parang..i mean dey ave heard parang songs aroun xmas bout dey doh kno wat it is..thats so annoyin cuz parang is ah irreplacable part of our culture!!!
rianaadorefox 1 year ago
@rianaadorefox you are so right many Trinis are not interested in their culture so sad. I am an American Trini my family is from Tobago and Trinidad I just Love my culture
noirrosa 1 year ago
@rianaadorefox you are so right. I am an American Trini and I just love my culture and Trindad and Tobago
noirrosa 1 year ago
@noirrosa There wasn't much of a spanish culture in Trinidad. Parang is largely influenced by venezuelans in the 18th century that came across to Trinidad to plant in the cacao plantations. The cuatro is a venezuelan birthed instrument and their national instrument (do research on the origin of the cuatro) The spanish in spain know nothing of parang nor of the cuatro as any venezuelan (who would call it "parranda" ) would tell you.
cagelsthrough 1 year ago
@cagelsthroug I don't agree with you. if you claim there wasn't much of a spanish culture in Trinidad tell that to the people in Paramin and all the people in trinidad who have spanish heritage
noirrosa 1 year ago
@cagelsthrough There was much Spanish culture in Trinidad but in small vestiges woven into the islands! There is a very good document source I could provide proving it! Many people who are descendants of indigenous Trinidadians still can speak Spanish of a colonial rural variety! Venezuelans did of course boost the island's Hispanic/Spanish heritage but Spanish heritage never left the island!
chsn09 1 year ago
@chsn09 you are so right. I don't know where this fake Trini get her facts from. I don't believe he/she is reading the same history books as I am. Spanish and French was once the offical language of T&T all the old time calypso were sung in french or spanish and later English due to T&T change hands so many times, the british were the last to control us
noirrosa 1 year ago
@chsn09 you are so right. I don't know where this fake Trini get her facts from. I don't believe he/she is reading the same history books as I am. Spanish and French was once the offical language of T&T all the old time calypso were sung in french or spanish and later English due to T&T change hands so many times, the british were the last to control us
noirrosa 1 year ago
@noirrosa I have several history books home which I have been reading over the last few days such as the Angostura Historical Digest and the History of Trinidad and Tobago by Eric Williams. I spoke to a Lara this morning who concurred that it (parang) is venezuelan in origin. I spoke to a former member of the Lara Brothers whose grandfather came from Venezuela and say the same thing and that Daisy Voisin was trained by sb from Guiria in Venezuela.
cagelsthrough 1 year ago
@cagelsthrough Yeah this sounds just like venezuelan music, I'm venezuelan and this hits home. I stumbled aross this because I looked up the cuatro the lil four string guitar used by Vn and I didnt know Trinidad used it too. Then again In El Callao Vn where I'm from we dance calipso and in Patua (carribean english) slaves from Trini where tooken there during a gold rush
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@chsn09 you are so right. I don't know where this fake Trini get her facts from. I don't believe he/she is reading the same history books as I am. Spanish and French was once the offical language of T&T all the old time calypso were sung in french or spanish and later English due to T&T change hands so many times, the british were the last to control us
noirrosa 1 year ago
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@chsn09 you are so right. I don't know where this fake Trini get her facts from. I don't believe he/she is reading the same history books as I am. Spanish and French was once the offical language of T&T all the old time calypso were sung in french or spanish and later English due to T&T change hands so many times, the british were the last to control us
noirrosa 1 year ago
@chsn09 you are so right. I don't know where this fake Trini get her facts from. I don't believe he/she is reading the same history books as I am. Spanish and French was once the offical language of T&T all the old time calypso were sung in french or spanish and later English due to T&T change hands so many times, the british were the last to control us
noirrosa 1 year ago
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@chsn09 you are so right. I don't know where this fake Trini get her facts from. I don't believe he/she is reading the same history books as I am. Spanish and French was once the offical language of T&T all the old time calypso were sung in french or spanish and later English due to T&T change hands so many times, the british were the last to control us
noirrosa 1 year ago
@chsn09 Many of those people calling themselves "spanish" were in fact actually venezuelan decendants. There were also people (I'm talking of the spanish decendants) from the original spanish colonial era but they were few. Only about 300 - 400 white spanish(these were largely POS/St.Joseph centred and uppercrust) were in Trinidad in 1797 and early 1800s justafter the British took the island. Because of their scarce numbers, Roume de St. laurent in 1780s was able to convince the spanish
cagelsthrough 1 year ago
@cagelsthrough To settle the island with Frenchmen.The British attracted a different type of "spanish" to Trinidad...Venezuelans left their country by the thousands in the 1800s and fled to Trinidad and largely went to the country areas to plant cocoa. This is who we refer to as "cocoa payols" and are the country spanish who brought across the cuatro/parranda music and the hallaca which evolved into our parang (an anglicisation) and the pastelle
cagelsthrough 1 year ago
@cagelsthrough True, many Spanish descendants in Trinidad may have ancestral connections with Venezuela, but there are some that are of native colonial Trinitario or Trinidadian Hispanic descent! Many people from throughout the caribbean and venezuela would come back in forth throughout the island! French outnumbered Spanish locals by the 1790s! But Spanish influence NEVER left the island of Trinidad! Are you Trinidadian by any chance?
chsn09 1 year ago
@cagelsthrough are you reading the same history books as I? Spanish and French were once the offical language of Trinidad. All of the old time calypso were sung in Spanish or French. I also guess you would argue that there wasn't much of an Amerindian culture in Trinidad either? Well there is a thriving amerindian community in Arima. Around Xmas time check out places like Paramin, Arima, etc you will see what I am talking about
noirrosa 1 year ago
@noirrosa The amerindians of Arima are not a pure race as they mixed with the spanish from colonial times and of course as many venezuelans settled around Arima they seemed to have mixed with them (venezuelans also having amerindian blood) I saw a documentary of the amerindians of Trinidad welcoming some people singing "rio manzanares" which is actually a venezuelan folk song adopted here!
cagelsthrough 1 year ago
@noirrosa Oh gorsh! u so right!
69punanny 1 year ago
@69punanny thanks
noirrosa 1 year ago
@noirrosa
Unfortunately, the music here is not of Spanish origin, nor does it have very much to do, if anything atall to do with the Spanish culture. Parang is rooted in Amerindian and African culture, not Spanish culture.
The cocoa panyols where not of Spanish descent i.e a white European, rather they were workers of Amerindian and African descent from south america. It's a common misconception in Trinidad that things with Spanish names and language make it Spanish. Shaq O'neal isnt Irish.
jtower69 1 year ago
@jtower69 thanks for the info
noirrosa 1 year ago
@jtower69 Amen brother..but a cocoa panol himself admitted that his father was white (pedro valerio)
MerchantofTarshish 9 months ago
@MerchantofTarshish
Not quite sir....he claimed to have a mestizo, not white, father due to his fathers light skin. False claims, similar to these are common among many Amerindians throughout Latin America. Light skin does not mean any European ancestry since Amerindians are genetically similar to Asians, who have light skin, so such a feature is surely not alien to the Amerindians. This is not meant to discredit his claim, but most mestizo claims must be taken with a grain of salt.
jtower69 9 months ago
@MerchantofTarshish
I don't aim to discredit, I'm simply saying that there is a possibility that his father who claimed to be mestizo, was in fact 100% Amerindian. If he (Pedro V.) claimed to have a white father, then it's straight forward, but he did not, he claimed mestizo. The mestizo claim has run rampant in all former Spanish colonies due to the need to be more European and shun their wonderful Amerindian culture. Amerindians were light skinned compared to Africans, food for thought.
jtower69 9 months ago
@jtower69 I tend to disagree in south america parrenderos is a form of music, can you give me a source for your information that parang does not have Spanish origin?
durfkin15 8 months ago
@durfkin15
I never questioned, nor did I disagree with the music being South American. It's however, NOT a form of Spanish music i.e music of Spain. As explained before, this music came about as a fusion between the Africans and the Amerindians. This music is indigenous to that region, even though it is mostly sung in a European language...sort of like soca and dancehall is not English/British even though it's done mostly in English. This music is not of European origin, hence NOT Spanish.
jtower69 7 months ago
@jtower69 I completely agree with you. However, I do not know if you are from Trinidad but in Trinidad the word Spanish is used for any hispanic origin. Its kind of like a slang term. So there is where some confusion can come in to play. In the states there is so many terms for like Mexican, Chicano, hispanic, Afro-Hispanic, etc. I am considered a spanish Trini but in the states I would be considered having some hispanic, spanish, or latino origin or decent.
durfkin15 7 months ago
@durfkin15 I understand what you're saying, and I do understand the slang aspect even though it can be confusing to a European like myself who understands a Spaniard to be...well what he is. But none the less, point taken, and slag it is.
jtower69 7 months ago
@durfkin15
Without the intent to discredit or insult you durfkin...I do hope that you realize that the terms Spanish and South/Latin American are NOT interchangeable and does NOT typically point to people sharing a similar racial profile nor culture. These are two very very different things, and Spanish music and culture is quite different from that of Latin and South America. There are various European(Spanish) influences in Latin America of course, but parang is simply not one of them.
jtower69 7 months ago
@jtower69 I took no insult from this because I live in the states and I know in the US there is a constant upgrade of terms of identity. Slang terms or just simple terms in Trinidad is big. I am not making this statement as a whole in Trinidad because we know the difference between the terms but its all a talk. Trinidad is big on talk. So to go back to my first comment, I thought you was trini that why I used the word spanish so freely.
durfkin15 7 months ago
One republic....no time to be sensitive....Do u call ppl by there first and last name always???
wongkee83 2 years ago
why do people always mention trinidad and forget about tobago?
giacomocasanova9 2 years ago
In this case it is because Tobago has no parang.
In most cases Tobago is what tourists remember of the two island state.
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chissiez1 2 years ago
Daisy is truly La Reina de parranda. I could listen to her songs all year long. I absolutely love parang music.
Marisol161616 2 years ago 3
This is incredible! How in trinidad they adopted a spanish caribbean tradition... We in puertor rico know this as parranda however parrandas are the act of going around from house to house in christmas waking people up with songs like these using similar instrumentation so that they are fed and given alcohol hahahha caribbean tradition baby... Is it a similar tradition for the trinidarians? And are parrang singers just taught these spanish through an oral tradition?
vanchi233 3 years ago 3
The Trinidadian parranderos do go house to house singing and are offered food. Parranda came to Trinidad because it was part of Venezuela during the time of the Spanish rule. Parranderos in Trinidad use traditional songs which are the same as in Venezuela but they also compose their own songs.
hewi868 2 years ago 2
Trinidad was not part of venezuela
trinitallis 2 years ago
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TriniIntel 2 years ago
not but there were spanish in trinidad
groveymom 2 years ago
Actually it was, part of the same land mass, millions of years ago
warahoun 2 years ago 2
Thats correct.
TheQueenIsWithin 2 years ago
Actually Trinidad was part of Spain and controlled by Spain originally and then the Spanish who tried to maintain controll over their rebellious colonies figured Trinidad would be better joint to the Capitancy General of Venzeula with its head at Caracas the capital ! Venezuela was connected to Colombia(which included Panama), Ecaudor, and Venezuela! This was known as the Viceroyalty of New Granada ! Trinidad remained a Spanish colony until 1797 and officially until 1814 after wars and disputes!
chsn09 2 years ago
@chsn09 All spanish colonies were controlled by Spain. Trinidad was a part of "Venezuela" in its spanish colonial period. In 1777, the Spanish created the Captaincy General of Venezuela which included Trinidad ( do a search on the captaincy general of Venezuela) The captain general was a post mid way between a vicerroy and a governor. The captain general had control over several governors and the captain general in Venezuela controlled the governor of trinidad to a degree
cagelsthrough 1 year ago
@cagelsthrough Everything I stated previously was CORRECT! Capitancy General has a higher status then an Audencia! All Spanish colonies were of course controlled by Spain! Trinidad was actually from the very beginning its own Spanish colony but soon was subject to the Audencia of Santo Domingo, then to Colombia(with Panama included as part) which was known as the Viceroyalty of Nueva Granada! Trinidad was then made a seperate province of Venezuela soon after, and Caracas was the capital!
chsn09 1 year ago
@chsn09 No. The royal decree that established the captaincy general of venezuela clearly states trinidad as being included in the 1777 administrative region. There was no "crown colony" under spanish rule. All governor run territories were under the supervision of larger administrative governors called "captain generals" or viceroys. These larger regions formed countries when they fought for their independance
cagelsthrough 1 year ago
@cagelsthrough "8 Sep 1777 Separate Captaincy-general of Venezuela (incl. Nueva Andalucía, Guyana, Venezuela, Mérida-La Grita, and Trinidad). " I stated that already, and in addition to that Trinidad was also part of the Viceroyalty of Nueva Grenada! Capitancy General had a higher status than an Audencia! And Trinidad was a seperate province of Venezuela eventually! Before 1777 it had been subject to the Audencia of Santo Domingo however!
chsn09 1 year ago
@cagelsthrough Trinidad was also always in connection and adhesion to Venezuela!
chsn09 1 year ago
@cagelsthrough Also are you Trinidadian or Trinitario? You do know that there is a saying among historians and even Trinidadians that goes like this "While the French governed, the Spanish RULED"! This quote therefore characterizes the latter years of the colonial period of Trinidad before and even upon the island of Trinidad and how it was ruled! Many whites in Trinidad or "pass as whites" are descendants of those very colonial Spanish and French Trinidadians!
chsn09 1 year ago
@cagelsthrough Are you Trinidadian? What part of Trinidad are you from?
chsn09 1 year ago
@chsn09 cagelsthrough is a fake trini I don't know where this person gets their facts from
noirrosa 1 year ago
@chsn09 cagelsthrough is a fake trini I don't know where this person gets their facts from
noirrosa 1 year ago
@chsn09 cagelsthrough is a fake trini I don't know where this person gets their facts from
noirrosa 1 year ago
@cagelsthrough "8 Sep 1777 Separate Captaincy-general of Venezuela (incl. Nueva Andalucía, Guyana, Venezuela, Mérida-La Grita, and Trinidad). " I stated that already, and in addition to that Trinidad was also part of the Viceroyalty of Nueva Grenada! Capitancy General had a higher status than an Audencia! And Trinidad was a seperate province of Venezuela eventually! Before 1777 it had been subject to the Audencia of Santo Domingo however but always in connection adhered from Venezuela!
chsn09 1 year ago
answer to your question trinidad was once a spanish colony. We didn't adopt a spanish culture in trinidad, it is and always be a part of our culture and heritage. do the reshearch
noirrosa 2 years ago 27
Well said. I always tell people the same thing
trini82 2 years ago
@noirrosa You could not have said it better my friend! It is despicable how Trinidadians do NOT know their own culture! People often neglect the Spanish and French heritages of Trinidad only referring to and displaying the British influences! It is great that you know it well! Please feel free to tell me more because, ALTHOUGH I have done deep extensive research it never hurts to learn more!
chsn09 1 year ago
@chsn09 that's right my friend or they try to say we were enfluence by venezuela
noirrosa 1 year ago
@chsn09 that's right my friend or they try to say we were enfluence by venezuela
noirrosa 1 year ago
@chsn09 that's right my friend or they try to say we were enfluence by venezuela
noirrosa 1 year ago
@chsn09 that's right my friend or they try to say we were enfluence by venezuela
noirrosa 1 year ago
@chsn09I totally agree with you or some Trini want to claim that we got our Spanish culture by way of Venezuela. Also I do believe the T&T gov't is going to adopt Spanish as the second offical language of T&T
noirrosa 1 year ago
@noirrosa Thank you my friend! Ignorance is clearly a bliss among some individuals! French and Spanish and Amerindian influences did and still exist in Trinidad! Spanish culture did also show up in Trinidad from the immigrant laborers from Venezuela better known as Coco Panyols, but Spanish culture has been native to Trinidad since the 1490s and 1500s! Also Trinidadians have influenced Venezuela also likewise!
chsn09 1 year ago
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@noirrosa Thank you my friend! Ignorance is clearly a bliss among some individuals! French and Spanish and Amerindian influences did and still exist in Trinidad! Spanish culture did also show up in Trinidad from the immigrant laborers from Venezuela better known as Coco Panyols, but Spanish culture has been native to Trinidad since the 1490s and 1500s! Also Trinidadians have influenced Venezuela also likewise!
chsn09 1 year ago
@noirrosa Thank you my friend! Ignorance is clearly a bliss among some individuals! French and Spanish and Amerindian influences did and still exist in Trinidad! Spanish culture did also show up in Trinidad from the immigrant laborers from Venezuela better known as Coco Panyols, but Spanish culture has been native to Trinidad since the 1490s and 1500s! Also Trinidadians have influenced Venezuela also likewise
chsn09 1 year ago
yes it is simarlar we do go aroung and paranr someones home lol
rtpb1234 2 years ago
aah thats what i need for the christmas thanxs
lovemysubmariner734 3 years ago
Legendary Artist...RIP.. I LOOOOOOVVVEEE this! This is what true parang is all about..
currytabanka 3 years ago 3
merry christmas trini people ayeeeeeeeee!
flizzytube 3 years ago 2
whey de rum???? Parang now start in truth
verycute1 3 years ago
RIP Daisy... She was my grandfather's first cousin....
nallume 3 years ago 2
Yes Daisy, teach dem yute what REAL talent is!
Segovenor 3 years ago 2
daisy good but the queen is sharlene flores in america dem yankie and trini dem does go crazy when i deh hear sharlene flores
flagguyl 3 years ago
De Parang now start!!!!
SASSY50 3 years ago
Thank you very much! I alaways loved Daisy as a little child..she had such a unique voice. Glad to see she's not forgotten.
BabyDuck 3 years ago 2
i remembered when she died...the whole of trinidad was shocked!!! and grief stricken, the entire place was dead!!!
triniphoenix007 3 years ago 2
yes daisy nobody can do it like you...love de musik.... R.I.P
trini583 3 years ago
i have a friend he is from trinidad, yesterday he played this music and i was surprised this is so the same type of music we listen to in puerto rico durin christmas.i love it.
arrozconchuletas 3 years ago
i wasnt around when she uesed to sing parang but i was grown up hearing she song every christmas....tell meh tell meh whey she gone daisy gone , daisy gone, i want to know where daisy gone
nycardo 3 years ago
Thank you for these songs. It is so rare to hear these songs anymore in the mainstream, although it is a big part of our culture.
noislla2004 3 years ago