Well there was once a prosperous, thriving nation in Afghanistan. It was Buddhist and was at the centre of a major world trade route. That is why the Arab slavers went to such lengths to conquer them and divest them of all their wealth and indigenous culture. So for the past 1,000 years it has been a destitute, dangerous backwater run by Islamist warlords.
I think Savage is incorrect concerning the sons of what was called the North Alliance fighting against us. The modern terrorist groups got a separate source of funding and the North Alliance (the ones we helped) is now defeated. We didn't finance those who are our enemies today.
9-11 was an American tragedy. Going after the masterminds of it was an American challenge. Those that perpetrated it hated the USA and its pro-Israel, Middle East policies. It had nothing to do with Canada (even though some Canadians died in the two towers). Why are Canadian soldiers losing their lives in Afghanistan? Just because Canada is a member of worthless NATO and has to fight when America has been attacked or its interests are at stake?
I never agreed with war in Afghanistan, I don't see how it makes us safer to go into the region a piss everybody off. Al Qaeda should have been fought through the intelligence arm of the government. Though I do not condone their militant beliefs, you must respect their resolve. One of the weakest countries on the planet was able to hold off the world's most powerful military. Though I feel withdrawing may only embolden the militant Muslims.
The current state over there is absolutely disastrous and utterly stagnant after nearly a decade of our "best" efforts executing vague, unrealistic objectives under a politicized ROE that ties the soldiers hands behind their backs. I don't like it any more than the next patriot. It is an unfortunate fact.
take my word for it....Savage is right. If you don't know, or know someone who knows, then you just don't know. Afghanistan is not equatable to any past conflict
I don't always agree with Mr. Savage. But he nailed this one. We don't have a reason to be there. Al Qaeda fled to Pakistan years ago. What difference does it make if they have a safe haven in Afghanistan if they've had one in Pakistan for years? And if the brutal soviets couldn't win then how could we? By being more brutal than the communists? By fighting a "war on poverty"? By "nation building"? Conservatives used to reject that. Glad Savage is again.
There is no solution to the problem other than withdrawing. We cannot stay in Afghanistan as American soldiers continue to die. The government is corrupt, the people don't care, and the extremists are always there. Nation building is and will always be a fallacy, especially in certain parts of the world.
Obama's base? He has no base-- he discarded all his supporters when he got elected-- he only talks to his "base" when he wants someone to pitch his healthcare reform.
He has not delivered on anything he promised. The only change we will get is watching each dollar we put into the banks turn to 8 nickles
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Savage point of view gives great comfort to the Taliban. He is telling them that they will never loose if they persist. They can rule the world. Then Savage can obey Sharia law--no more television.
One of the dumbest comments ever on here. "Rule the world"? WTF?!?!? They don't want us there. The Iraqis don't want us in their country either. If the roles were reversed, we'd be doing the exact same thing these people are. Notice I said people. Not animals, not barbarians, not terrorists.............they're people.
I see my comments were removed. Savage can not take patriotic criticism. He wants to give the Taliban a free pass to take over the country and give the 9/11 killers a training ground for the next wave of attacks on the world, including the USA.
That is the kind of thinking that allowed Hitler to almost take over the world in WW2, until we woke up. A few lives lost now will save millions later.
Savage is not entirely right. Hes only playing this card because he is against the obama administration and against the labor party in england. The problem savage doesnt realize is that the last time the Americans were told to leave afghaninstan after helping the *northern guard* fight the soviets was that a power vacum ensued. As a result of the power vacum that ensued obl and the taliban stepped in and took over.
I agree, savages language is wrong. Ive replied to this video.
The issue is not that our military is there,the problem is what is the mission. For one thing,the last time America was told to leave a power vacum ensued and savage is wholly ignorant on this.
I'm surprised he had this stance.
Friedstuffsable 2 months ago
Well there was once a prosperous, thriving nation in Afghanistan. It was Buddhist and was at the centre of a major world trade route. That is why the Arab slavers went to such lengths to conquer them and divest them of all their wealth and indigenous culture. So for the past 1,000 years it has been a destitute, dangerous backwater run by Islamist warlords.
ritchloui 3 months ago
I think Savage is incorrect concerning the sons of what was called the North Alliance fighting against us. The modern terrorist groups got a separate source of funding and the North Alliance (the ones we helped) is now defeated. We didn't finance those who are our enemies today.
MissSovietBones 8 months ago
they dont want democracy, you cannot give someone something they do not want, its impossible
packerfan748 9 months ago
you r right mr.
POWERFULL105 1 year ago
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jons44 1 year ago
9-11 was an American tragedy. Going after the masterminds of it was an American challenge. Those that perpetrated it hated the USA and its pro-Israel, Middle East policies. It had nothing to do with Canada (even though some Canadians died in the two towers). Why are Canadian soldiers losing their lives in Afghanistan? Just because Canada is a member of worthless NATO and has to fight when America has been attacked or its interests are at stake?
hatmap 1 year ago
"Savage". His real name is Michael Wiener. Seriously.
whateverbitches1 1 year ago
I never agreed with war in Afghanistan, I don't see how it makes us safer to go into the region a piss everybody off. Al Qaeda should have been fought through the intelligence arm of the government. Though I do not condone their militant beliefs, you must respect their resolve. One of the weakest countries on the planet was able to hold off the world's most powerful military. Though I feel withdrawing may only embolden the militant Muslims.
MatthewBissonnette88 1 year ago
does mr weener know about the taliban?
halflifeproductionz 1 year ago
@halflifeproductionz what is the taliban smart ass
tommysixgunner 6 months ago
The current state over there is absolutely disastrous and utterly stagnant after nearly a decade of our "best" efforts executing vague, unrealistic objectives under a politicized ROE that ties the soldiers hands behind their backs. I don't like it any more than the next patriot. It is an unfortunate fact.
TeleprompterCzar 1 year ago
take my word for it....Savage is right. If you don't know, or know someone who knows, then you just don't know. Afghanistan is not equatable to any past conflict
TeleprompterCzar 1 year ago
I don't always agree with Mr. Savage. But he nailed this one. We don't have a reason to be there. Al Qaeda fled to Pakistan years ago. What difference does it make if they have a safe haven in Afghanistan if they've had one in Pakistan for years? And if the brutal soviets couldn't win then how could we? By being more brutal than the communists? By fighting a "war on poverty"? By "nation building"? Conservatives used to reject that. Glad Savage is again.
nakedtruther 2 years ago 10
Go hard or go home, half-cocked efforts our leaders (yesterday and today) are propagating in the name of political correctness is bound to fail...
mrcombi 2 years ago
micheal nooooooooo! this is the first time ive disagreed with him
MrMustang13 2 years ago
Because american are dieing to save israel. Yes israel has made americans slave. Young americans are giving there live just for fucking israels.
arzoo4m 1 year ago
@arzoo4m isreal is our gratest ally in the middle east. one of the only allies in middle east
MrMustang13 1 year ago
your 100 %right
AfgPathan 2 years ago
Savage for PREZ 2012
FreedomILove 2 years ago 8
Watch your mouth you young fuck .
FreedomILove 2 years ago
i agree with uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu
afg12 2 years ago
Well, whether Michael remembers or not, I remember what happened on 9/11. Sadly, this is the first time I've disagreed with Savage...
madtomflint 2 years ago
micheal savage is a real savage! stop the war we cant win!
popnadeem89 2 years ago
There is no solution to the problem other than withdrawing. We cannot stay in Afghanistan as American soldiers continue to die. The government is corrupt, the people don't care, and the extremists are always there. Nation building is and will always be a fallacy, especially in certain parts of the world.
operaisbestbrowser 2 years ago 4
Obama's base? He has no base-- he discarded all his supporters when he got elected-- he only talks to his "base" when he wants someone to pitch his healthcare reform.
He has not delivered on anything he promised. The only change we will get is watching each dollar we put into the banks turn to 8 nickles
Yaheuben66 2 years ago 2
The Taliban "people" are part of the group that took down the World Trade Center on 9/11. If you think they are nice, I can not help you.
salsalot 2 years ago
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Savage point of view gives great comfort to the Taliban. He is telling them that they will never loose if they persist. They can rule the world. Then Savage can obey Sharia law--no more television.
salsalot 2 years ago
One of the dumbest comments ever on here. "Rule the world"? WTF?!?!? They don't want us there. The Iraqis don't want us in their country either. If the roles were reversed, we'd be doing the exact same thing these people are. Notice I said people. Not animals, not barbarians, not terrorists.............they're people.
soonerdave01 2 years ago
I see my comments were removed. Savage can not take patriotic criticism. He wants to give the Taliban a free pass to take over the country and give the 9/11 killers a training ground for the next wave of attacks on the world, including the USA.
That is the kind of thinking that allowed Hitler to almost take over the world in WW2, until we woke up. A few lives lost now will save millions later.
salsalot 2 years ago
Savage is not entirely right. Hes only playing this card because he is against the obama administration and against the labor party in england. The problem savage doesnt realize is that the last time the Americans were told to leave afghaninstan after helping the *northern guard* fight the soviets was that a power vacum ensued. As a result of the power vacum that ensued obl and the taliban stepped in and took over.
ThunderAppeal 2 years ago
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salsalot 2 years ago
shut up you dumb cunt!
our men are dying for fuck all over their, why the hell do we care about afganistan. they want to live as tribesmen so let them
fatto77 2 years ago 2
This is a war for profit there is no terrorist they terror groups are the cia puppets. Bin laden is a cia asset since the 80's.
wakeupsheeplenow 2 years ago 2
I agree, savages language is wrong. Ive replied to this video.
The issue is not that our military is there,the problem is what is the mission. For one thing,the last time America was told to leave a power vacum ensued and savage is wholly ignorant on this.
ThunderAppeal 2 years ago