I belive it could be healthy to eat mostly vegan and a little bit meat and maybe more fish them meat. But whole grain bread is also healthy. I belive mutch vegetables are more healthy tham mutch fruit, because in fruit it is mutch sugar.
Here's another fact that goes unnoticed by these idiots. No milk and no eggs means no more pancakes, waffles, cookies, or any other baked good! Their bullshit will kill more than just the meat industry but also the baking industry! No more delicious bread, no cookies-sweet and sugary or otherwise-and NO MORE BREAKFAST!!!!
@NUTCASE71733 think bigger! medicine would no longer be tested on animals (meaning either testing it on humans or no medicine at all), and medicine that had engridients that come from animals? you can just forget about all the lives they are saving! and not to mention antivenom which is gathered from animals that produce the venom which are kept in captivity! you can just forget about being saved from a poisonous snake/spider
Bottom line the vegans will fuck up the world if they aren't stoped
What do you mean no more breakfast or waffles or cookies? I made vegan pancakes last night o.o and I made vegan sugar cookies for halloween. o.o I'd recommend learning a bit more about veganism before claiming another thing as a "fact."
I've been a Vegetarian for 28 years. I feel great because of it. I still eat dairy, but only in cheese. I drink Almond milk instead of milk. Read the book "Eating Animals" by Jonathan Safran Foer. You'll want to be vegan after reading that.
@The2Cool4School, sorry, but with my capacity for logical thinking intact, I am not susceptible for emotionalizing. Feel free to watch the other videos of my antivegan playlist.
@The2Cool4School I have read that book and it is full of propaganda. You should read "Nutrition and Physical Degeneration" by: Weston A. Price, DDS. It far surpaces anything in that book "Eating Animals". I posted a video titled "Examining Vegan Propaganda - Spiritual, Epidemiological, Anthropological w/ Makeda Voletta"
This is a great video. Thank you for this. I am so tired of the VEGAN PROPAGANDA. People should read "Nutrition and Physical Degeneration" by: Weston A. Price, DDS. I posted a video titled "Examining Vegan Propaganda - Spiritual, Epidemiological, Anthropological w/ Makeda Voletta". And I speak about much of this too. This video is so needed. Thank you! :-)
Did he just say "agriculture in the tundra?", after telling us we could use the non-agriculture-friendly land for pasture? I can't think of many cattle that would survive using tundra as pasture either...
dir muss aber auch sehr sehr sehr langweilig sein um soviel Sch**** ins Netz zu stellen. der einzige der erwachsen werden sollte bist du. Ausserdem wieso sprichst du Englisch, das dich ja viele Leute verstehen? Was hat dich eigentlich geritten so gegen Veganer vorzugehen? Ist deine Ex Veganerin und die hat irgenwann gemerkt das du immer noch ein kleines Kind bist und hat dich dann verlassen? Und jetzt ist das kleine Kind auf alle Veganer(innen) angefressen und führt einen "Krieg" gegen Veganer
@freeanimals1, typisch Gemüsetaliban, sofort beleidigend werden bzw. unter die Gürtellinie zielen (zumindest: es versuchen), mangels faktischer Argumentation. Ich hab eine ganze Playlist voller Videos die genau ausführen, WARUM Veganismus purer Schwachsinn ist, wennst das nicht durchdrückst bzw. Englisch (die lingua franca des Internets) nicht verstehst, ist das dein Problem.
@ThatGuyFromAustria und du bist nicht beleidigend gegenüber Veganer? Aber egal. finde es gibt viel wichtiger Dinge als gegen Veganer soviel ins Netz zu stellen. Scheinbar bist du ja gegen Rassismus, wieso stellst du da nichts rein, oder hast du Angst vor den Nazis. Eines würde mich aber wirklich interessieren wieso du das alles machst? Du sagst ja Vegan sein ist eine extreme Ideologie, wie würdest du dann Death Metal beschreiben? lg dein Gemüsetaliban
"Propaganda is a form of communication that is aimed at influencing the attitude of a community toward some cause or position so as to benefit oneself." How do vegans benefit from converting people to veganism? Why do you think they make this 'propaganda'? Do you not consider the meat & dairy industry to be more guilty of creating propaganda? They have A LOT to gain from you consuming their products.
@brianv00 and the people who grow vegetables don't? please don't even try, your making yourself look like a moron, may Odin bless you with the wisdom to not be a retard
@cartoonkingforeever Grow up. This internet name-calling stuff is pathetic. Answer my questions with a sensible reply or just don't bother. In fact just don't bother.
@brianv00 how was that internet name calling? are you saying that before the internet people didn't call other people retards? now that was a bad comeback
@cartoonkingforeever I'm used people being harsh online, but I am interested to know where you heard that. It's normally dairy industry 'propaganda' that makes up this calcium nonsense.
@brianv00 this may sound stupid but i think that pill thing was from the Simpsons. but anyway what proof shows that milk doesn't have calcium or that we don't need it? and you forget milk also has vitamin D, humans are very physically weak compared to other animals so we need calcium to keep our bones strong so your telling me that because your vegan your now going to doubt that we need calcium? and we have been drinking milk since the dawn of agriculture which was over eight thousand years ago
@brianv00 also your making the same mistake the woman shown in this video made, you are not taking human history into account and milk has high nutritional value so are you now going to say that's bull crap? then i could say your vegan diets are bull crap to because why should i believe your evidence? it was made by vegans who treat veganism like a religion. i can fight fire with fire but i choose not to because i will get burned like the vegans he pwned
@brianv00 and the people of the dairy industry are humans like you and me so i say their nowhere near as propagandist than those vegan extremist, i will drink milk because it's very good for you and the cow is not harmed in process of collecting it, i mean dude have you ever worked with farm animals? because i have and you know what the cows are just fine, all they do is just eat their grass and will occasionally look at me and that's it, THERE IS NO ABUSE, if there was they would be arrested
@cartoonkingforeever I'm glad you worked on a good farm, but there is so much abuse you couldn't even believe it. It's really, really disgraceful. Makes me wonder about humans as a species with this stuff going on and people don't even know it. Watch the documentary Earthlings for real footage from inside the industry (it's on YouTube). There is a lot of impartial evidence on milk as well, although scientists who research it tend to become vegan based on their findings.
@brianv00 and how do you know that is not staged like in the snuff videos? and please tell how the hell is milking a cow abuse? please tell me? and so we kill animals for meat so what? a wolf kills Bambi for meat, we are animals so what gives a wolf the right to eat meat and not us. WE EVOLVED EATING MEAT, WE ARE OMNIVOROUS, the herbivorous humanoids before us Homo sapiens evolved DIED OUT why did they die? because their food became scarce and could compete with other herbivores
@cartoonkingforeever - research HOW milk is harvested and say the same. I'm not vegan, but come on people! The PROCESS of factory farming is not natural = FACT. I don't care if someone hunts for their own food. They usually eat it all. Do you hunt? or pay factory farmers to kill for you and have numerous animals suffer so that the brat at the food court can take one bite and tell mommy he doesn't want any more. I challenged one person before and now you...go watch a food court a few times.
@raphaels4 i don't get where you think your going with your argument but factory farming is changing like with some they stopped giving chickens and cow hormones to grow, and by the laws of nature anything you can do your allowed to do it so if we can mass produce meat from factory farming then by the laws of nature we are allowed to do it and as they say nature can be a bitch
@cartoonkingforeever - well, if you're going to bring up wolves, then hunt like a wolf. You probably can't. If all this wonderful factory farming was taken away, MOST PEOPLE WOULD DIE. They don't know how to survive NATURALLY. I'm glad you worked on a good farm, kuddos to you, but it doesn't change the artificial insemination of cows and taking of their calves so humans could have foods and some calves go for veal in many cases. It doesn't change the inhumane slaughtering process.
@raphaels4 dude i could hunt if i wanted to, did you that you could hunt down Bambi and kill it with just your bare hands? you know why? because although deer are fast they can't maintain a fast sprint for long distances we have far more stamina and when you reach the exhausted animal you can kill it by simply breaking it's neck or you can use a knife or what ever sharp thing you have on you, i eat meat and i have yet to suffer from the diabetes and obesity that you vegan keep screaming about
@cartoonkingforeever - first of all please read my first comment. I typed in plain English- I AM NOT VEGAN. Now that we've cleared that up...yes, I would think someone lived under a rock if they were unaware that people, mostly modern day tribes in Africa, hunt down freakin' cheetahs and more barefoot with just a spear. I'm amazed but respect them because they actually eat it and are *gasp* GRATEFUL! Humans have gotten careless and lazy in the way they "survive" in the modern world.
@raphaels4 even if we didn't eat, we still throw away tons of other food products and the reason we are lazy is because of the industrial revolution nothing is perfect the industrial did cause harm to many things but if it didn't happen then all the technology we use today would not exist
@cartoonkingforeever - As far as the food court comment...go to any restaurant of food court and watch how people so easily waste and throw away this NEEDED food. USA is a very wasteful country and doesn't appreciate what it has. So why should animals be slaughtered non-stop inhumanely just to go in the trash by a wasteful human?
@raphaels4 yeah humans do waste and that is something we have stop doing but the point is we humans evolved eating meat, if we hadn't eaten meat we would have gone extinct like herbivorous humanids before us, once again you keep jumping form excuse to the next and i have countered all them which makes you look like just another ignorant vegan,
@cartoonkingforeever -Jumping?LOL! My original comment was that factory farming practices at a lot of places are inhumane. YOU brought up wolves, so I made a comment about wolves and hunting, then mentioned that the people that do hunt aren't wasteful. Factory farming is in a response to WASTEFULNESS. This is my final response since you obviously can't read. I AM NOT VEGAN, but see flaws in BOTH sides' trying to be superior. However, if someone disagrees with you, you name call...grow up!
@raphaels4 did i call you a vegan? no i didn't said you where acting just like a vegan extremist fine my point is that i don't believe in the whole milk is murder and that factory farms are doing abuse, i believe it's vegan propaganda.
@brianv00 we EVOLVED eating meat, it was what kept us from going extinct, we EVOLVED using tools, it was what kept us from getting eaten by a saber-tooth tiger, we EVOLVED wearing clothes that where made out of animal skins. we do not need to eat plants the Inuits are proof of that so saying we don't have to eat because we have vegan diets just sounds ridiculous and are easily broken, your arguments and intolerance for other peoples opinions are a real headache to us logical people
Dude, if you are not aware of the conditions of animals on factory farms, where you get your meat, then watch a video like "From Farm to Fridge" (12 minutes long) or the amazing full length documentary "Earthlings," both available for free on youtube, and see for yourself the immorality and depravity of factory farm life for food animals. it is a HOLOCAUST for them. That is no exaggeration. If you can't watch a slaughterhouse video because it disgusts you, then don't eat meat. Responsibility...
@ThatGuyFromAustria Have you? Have you witnessed the atrocities of workers abusing animals? Pigs and chickens being boiled alive in the fur removal tanks? Debeaking Chickens? Castrating pigs, docking tails, cutting off ears, and pulling out front teeth of piglets without anesthetic? Dehorning of Cattle? Branding on the face? If so, how can you maintain your arguments against Vegans and not sympathize with their sentiments on the subject? I am not understanding your motivation.
@SuperAnimalDrummer, yup, 've seen such factory farms. Found them clean and orderly. Btw, do you know WHY animals are castrated, beakers trimmed, cattle dehorned? For a similar reason people cut their fingernails. And of course you don't understand my motivation. Why should anybody question propaganda?
@ThatGuyFromAustria No. That's not why. It is so pigs don't canabilize eachother when they are packed so tightly into pens, and eat eachothers open wound soars, each others ears, and tails... that is why.
Of course, when you go to a factory farm as a visitor, you are not going to see the bad stuff. They don't want you to see that. They don't want you to see that. Why don't you try watching undercover footage of factory farms instead on relying on a walkthru. watch "Farm to Fridge" on youtube
@SuperAnimalDrummer, I've not been to such farms as a visitor, but as a friend of the owner or family members of them. Believe me, each pack of wolves or horde of pigs is more brutal than a farm where you have medical care, a warm stable, always enough food... for the animals.
I really bet you've never ever seen such a "factory" farm from the inside.
@ThatGuyFromAustria Giant corporations own factory farms to increase profit by cutting down on costs by means of economies of scale which says, the larger the operation, the less cost per unit, hence, higher profits. That is great for the corporation, but terrible for the animals. They suffer, being treated as commodities. Your point falls apart when practices that are considered "STANDARD" by the industry are torturous: CASTRATION, DEBEAKING, DEHORNING, GRINDING LIVING MALE CHICKS... see?
@SuperAnimalDrummer, no, you really never have seen a factory farm from the inside, nor have you any idea about how media work. I have a video in my antivegan playlist, about selective perception. Get a basic education about media.
Exactly true, but I prefer just calling it propaganda.
1/2 truths = propaganda
You can apply the technique to absolutely anything you want. Simply list everything bad and good about something and throw away the good list. What you have left will make anything in this world look evil.
PS I wish you had not blocked him. I would have loved to take a shot at him. Free speech and freedom of expression and all that.
@rosepetal108 in another comment he threatened to "hound" me, after throwing a number of insults in my direction. Sorry, in that case, I hardly had any other choice, or I would have gotten myself somebody spamming to kingdom come, and I could not allow that. Feel free to message him.
@ThatGuyFromAustria No worries mate. I actually have messaged him before and shut him down very easily and quickly.
The trick is to stay calm. Never throw personal attacks. Stick with the truth. Honestly be compassionate, because 99.99 % of Vegans truly believe the propaganda they have been taught. Once you understand that, then you can't help but show compassion. They truly believe they are doing the right thing. Freedom of religion is something to agree. They have the right to Veganism
@madcat789, I just did. He said he will "hound" me, for I was such a bad person and worked for the meat industry, bla bla bla. Well, he wants to hound me? If this is not a reason for blocking somebody, then what is?
Hound? Isn't that a fancy name for "Stalking"? If so then you could press charges against him..but this is the internet, hes just a troll that will get bored and go away.
@ThatGuyFromAustria Untli you watch some documentary footage on factory farms, don't comment. YOu didn't see anything. Watch "Farm to Fridge," "Earthlings," "If Slaughterhouse had Glass Walls." YOu are ignorant dude. You don't kill your own meat, so don't bring up animals killing each other as an argument. You let giant corporations do it for you, and let them treat animals like objects. that's weak. You're arguments are really frustrating to listen to, because they are self-serving.
@SuperAnimalDrummer, you just named a bunch of propaganda movies, you also might watch my video (it's in the antivegan playlist) "I have seen it on TV" - selective perception. I for my part *know* how movies are made, sorry, buddy, but if *that* is the reason for your vegan lifestyle, then I have to tell you, you've been conned.
@ThatGuyFromAustria You're an idiot. How does a film or pictures lie? How can undercover footage of factory farms be propoganda? It has a motive and a reason for existing, yes... to expose truth. Propoganda would be what you are doing, to support the status quo, the corporations, the institution of the industry, the cruel treatment of animals. YOU are the propoganda. The little people trying to expose the cruelty and find truth are the heros who try to give animals a voice who can not speak.
@ThatGuyFromAustria Secondly, because you visited ONE factory farm on one particular day, does not mean you are going to see that which is shown in films all the time. It depends on what country you are in, and how big the operation. In the USA, factory farms are terrible. Being that you are Austrian, which is a much smaller country, I am assuming the operation was smaller, and probably wasn't a "factory farm' by US scale. Stop trying to sound like you know what you are talking about.
@ThatGuyFromAustria I'm still waiting for a reply on 'how I've been conned' by such movies as Earthlings or 'From Farm to Fridge' (which everybody reading this should watch. This guy is a liar). Earthlings, never mention the word Vegan once, in the movie, so tell me: how can it be vegan propoganda? How is Farm to Fridge Vegan propoganda? I am waiting to hear from you. I don't think you have a real response. If you can somehow prove that animal cruelty isn't regular in factory farms, do it...
@ThatGuyFromAustria Further, the fact that you support such suffering and argue for reasons to continue it or morally reprehensible. You're self-righteous notions exist only so you can continue enjoying meat, without regard for the pain the animal suffers to give you. That is selfish, irresponsible, and immature behavior. Perhaps you are an immoral person. I have to make that judgement given your stances and supposed knowledge of factory farms, which I believe is incomplete despite your visit.
@1imesub well, pronunciation being the only concern + an insult shows me that there is really nothing you have to say. Do that somewhere else. Blocked.
Agriculture: Of course not every crop will grow everywhere. The thing is, that more than half of already harvested grain on this planet is used to feed livestock. And that livestock produces far less (both by weight or calorie) than the plant's equivalent nutritional value.
I'm right there with you that that those radical views of every world problem solved by veganism are just a myth, but the concept of it being more efficient than today's excessive meat consumption is valid I suppose ;)
It's omnivores which are naive! Do You really think that Human can survive egoistically? Human is an animal which has to evolve. So return in your cavern and remained a primitiv human. The liberty is in non violence and equanimity by work on ourselves and not in the domination, ignorance and self-conceit.
Yes, it's true ! Many vegans are naive. They make vids among dogs and cats and forget that these animals are carnivors, or even worse, they feed them with vegetarian products. This is STUPID! Now, get ready for another kind of vegetarian: I dislike animals (I don't want them as food, entertainment or even pets anymore), I am not religious, I discovered that "nutritionism" like any "ism" is extremism. So, next time try a reply with Brendan Brazier or Robert Cheeke, don't waste time with this
Some vegans (ONLY SOME) are treating themselves like cave men. Yes, it's unhealthy to eat most kinds of raw meat, but because humans are extremely intelligent they discovered that cooked meat has lots of nutrition when eaten as a part of a healthy and balanced diet. Same with milk, and all other animal products. Cruelty? It's nature. And there is nothing cruel about free range, stress free farming. Do you beleive that we should also live in mud huts because houses may require intelligence?
Come for me Veganculters, try to pry that roasted lambs leg out of my hand. You can have it over my dead body. Veganculters are 6 times more likely to have brain atrophy than meat eaters.
@MrsDagegen You do know that brain atrophy is more common among Vegans, or do you just like to post snide remarks????? And if Veganculters are so smart, why would they put kids on this diet....just selfish I guess.
Mh, concerning the milk: search for "Dr Veith - Krankmacher Milch 1-9" on youtube.
since you are "that guy from austria" i guess you understand german. If not: go through the whole video (9 parts) and look up all shown scientific papers the guy is referring to. If you live like a Japanese and have a plant-based diet, do not consume any milk products and just eat some fish and meat occasionaly, i guess you really do have a good diet there. Otherwise.... you know
haha this video made me laugh.but it has defenitiely truth in it.vegans need their B12 through pills or elsethey get problems with their digestion and/or brain etc.these are well known facts.w are not Gorilla's.and also...many of those vegans act as if they are the only ones who live righteous.many of them are arrogant cynical pricks.
There is a very good and well researched website that seems to take all point of view into consideration. This is called Beyond Vegetarianism and uses the org address beyondveg.
As a person attempting to take an interest in my health I found this extremely interesting and it may be of interest to others.
I agree with the basic thrust of what I have heard here of the vegan argument as far as meat is concerned. Meat has limited efficiency as it has to be harvested twice - the first time from crops to feed the animals and the second time when the animal is killed. Meat production is responsible for almost one quarter of greenhouse gases (although some sources put it lower).
On the other hand I think moderation in everything. I can do without meat, doing without eggs and milk would be. v. hard.
Spot on video, members of the Vegancult would like people to believe their lies. Truly a great rebuttal to this smarmy do-gooder who thinks her way is the only way, live off tofu and other crap like that.
This is ridiculous, haha. It's not even paying attention to what she's saying. It's easy to win an argument when you make up your opponent's stance...
I hate eating meat ... don't much like the smell or taste ... yet I'm VERY healthy ... zero health problems ... zero prescriptions ... I haven't been to a doctor in years ... no reason to go ... so anyone who says that not eating meat is unhealthy, is ignorant ... they're just making excusing because they LIKE to eat it. so just admit that is what it is, and let us who dislike it go on disliking it.
1. Milk is for babies, Mother milk for human babies, Cows Milk for Cows babies, calves, Horse Milk for Horse babies, bay colt, Chimpanze milk for chimpanze babies
2. There is almost no wild animal who drinks milk after it has been weaned
3. Almost every vegan was a time vegetarian and before then maybe also a meat eater. So they have experienced the advantages by themselves.
What about you? Have you ever tried it to live just for one month vegan?
@ThatGuyFromAustria Yes, I watched the video. And I understand, that you do not want to let everything like the vegan woman said. That is okay for me. But is she really so wrong? There are no studies about the the health of vegans, just only theoretical opinions of non-vegan or non-vegetarien scientists. So you have live of a vegan diet or have you just lived without supplements? I never ate any supplement and have gained 10 kg of muscles in the time I ate 99% fresh fruits, veggies, nuts, salad
@Greenfullworld, a vegan diet without supplements is simply physically not possible. To claim to live on a vegan diet without them is as credible as if you told me you can live without food at all, make water flow upwards or walk on clouds. Because there ARE the respective papers out there and a number of case studies. You may watch some of my other videos concerning veganism on that issue.
@ThatGuyFromAustria Which supplements do you mean? I eat 100% natural nothing out of pills, capsules or that stuff. I do not eat any nutrition supplements att all. Period. If you cannot believe this, shows me that you do not have any practice knowledge. you just think that it is not possible to live without supplements at vegan diet, because of theoretical background from people, who either have not tried to live for a minimum of more than 2 month on a vegan diet I think. But you are wrong.
@ThatGuyFromAustria 100% how could you possible make a claim like that, 100% are you serious, even the dietitians that are vegan agree with you then! They would also have to be included in your 100%
@TheChoujinVirus yes, like most people on the planet! If I can buy oats milk with calcium, I'm going to buy oats milk with calcium it seems pretty logical and straight forward.
First: What is so bad about supplements? (Hint: You can't use the "unnatural" argument because of your first point).
Second: What qualifies as supplement? In many "normal" food there are also supplements. Just for example the multivitamin juice from my local and totally normal juice market contains enaugh supplemental B12 per day with 200 ml.
@ThatGuyFromAustria I had horrible migraines for 20 years...and seeing my dad who still has them, i was desparate for a way to get rid of them. I came across several medical doctors with nutritional expertise and they said cut out meat and dairy. Meat, milk and cheese were staples for me, so i replaced them with fruit, nuts and veggies, and migraines are 100% gone for 1 year now, which is when I started. I still have dairy here and there, in desserts, which i am reducing. You just have to try.
My only critique on this video is that it doesn't address two very common hypocritical points about vegans: 1) most of them are pro choice.... meaning it's okay for them to have an abortion, but I can't eat my omelette and 2) the fact that studies have shown that children born to vegan parents are more prone to being born retarded and underweight with a number of additional health issues.
If the vegan "movement" continues, it'll be interesting to see the next generation and the consequences.
@britlx, yeah, considering that we ate meat ever since (2.5 million years), and burgers and cars is not really THAT old ... meat must be the cause, ey? Talking 'bout "plain stupid"...
You are absolutely right...But you forget several things : using petrol is immoral only by its consequences. I didn't see vegans go to the tundra (maybe there are :-) ) and again, veganism isn't the solution to all the problems...But did you know that being vegan is good for the environment too? A lot of studies prove that a vegan is maybe 10 times less noxious for the environment than an non-vegan.
@rev0lutie, I know these "studies", and none of them could be verified. Eating meat is not the problem, mankind did it ever since. The concentration of greenhouse gasses et cetera skyrocketed after WW2, and the recent decrease in greenhouse gas emissions is due to the economic crisis.
The response to overpopulation of animals is to stop creating them, isn't it? The Earth is not our property. The meat is not the real problem. The real problem is domination and injustice. The real problem is the lack of compassion and reason. If we want to find solutions, we can. I don't know everything, I don't have all the answers but I know one thing : the animals want to live and to avoid pain and we, the humans, we can live without killing and torturing them...
@rev0lutie, we can also live without petrol and industry, contributing a great deal to the possibility that we may bring down life on Earth. I have never seen any veggie move to the tundra, tough.
You are absolutely right...But you forget several things : using petrol is immoral only by its consequences. I didn't see vegans go to the tundra (maybe there are :-) ) and again, veganism isn't the solution to all the problems...But did you know that being vegan is good for the environment too? A lot of studies prove that a vegan is maybe 10 times less noxious for the environment than a non-vegan.
@rev0lutie Using your logic, every city in industrialized world by now would be overrun with cockroaches, which in theory, could literally prove to be fatal to our species if it were never treated. (what they've been proven to carry includes 32 different kinds of bacterial diseases, 17 fungal diseases, 2 viruses and 3 protozoa- related illnesses). Cross contamination is the #1 cause of foodboorne illnesses and if they were never dealt with, we'd be constantly sick. Ever had salmonella?
The guy from Austria: good luck trying to speak logically to these vegan morons. It is like reasoning with a brick wall. Let them miss out! It is their loss! I'm going to continue to enjoy my hamburgers, chicken, pork chops, and sausages! Have fun vegans with your carrot sticks! LOL
Some people are terrified of evolutionary leaps. Veganism is one such leap. Of course people are going to get the shits when positive change occurs. It's the ego's natural response. Very predictable.
@Bolgi, you didn't get it, did you? We had such bullshit about a "leap of evolution" allready. They called it the "Übermensch", and it too had no factual basis other than some guys ridden by inferiority complexes wanting to be morally superior.
@Bolgi What harm does a vegan cause? You seem to think that vegans have some kind of a disease. Sure, there are some fanatics out there but on the whole, vegans are lovely, peaceful and giving people who just want to make the world a better place.
Factory farming is a vile business and has no place in a civilized world, no matter what you think. Vegans harm no-one. You seem like a bitter human.
@Bolgi well....vegans don't really cause harm (unless they are apart of/support PETA), but I am just saying...would you tell a farmer how to do his job....? Factory farming isn't a pretty site, but it keeps us fed. my ancestors didn't climb to the top of the food chain so that I could eat grass all day.
@taomajick I am a vegan and I am perfectly fed without having to slaughter animals. I am the first vegan in my family (who originally were from Latvia) who hasn't suffered from heart disease, diabetes, high cholesterol and numerous other ailments.
Have I just been lucky?
My view is that vegans make it a point to be peaceful with everyone. I know very well that there are exceptions. The ego is still active in many.
Why don't you direct your energies to fighting real evils?
@Bolgi well to answer your question, you moved from latvia to america,of course you're not going to be as sickly,the health care here is better. All I am trying to drive at is, if vegans didn't get in our faces about their lifestyle we'd be fine. If omnivores didn't judge vegans harshly, you'd be fine. solution: don't act self righteous because you don't eat anything with face. that's all vegans have to do! no issue over what anyone eats!
@taomajick My family lived most of their lives in America with American health care, and they got sick and died. I never go to doctors or hospitals. Better health care has nothing to do with why I am healthier. Clearly.
@Bolgi No matter what crap you spew, I will always be an omnivore. But just to piss you off, for every animal you don't eat, I will eat three. 1 for me, 2 for you, and 3 to set your goals back. :D
@taomajick Very original comeback. Stupid too. "For every animal I don't eat" ?? What the hell? I don't eat any animals you stupid idiot. What are you going to do? Eat every animal on the planet and beyond just to piss me off? I'm rolling on the floor laughing because of your sheer stupidity!!! Did you lose oxygen or fall on your head when your mother farted you out?
@Bolgi What about insane parents who are members of the Vegancult, forcing their poor kids on this substandard diet that is seriously lacking in many nutrients and taste. "Gee, I think I will start my infant on the bean curd and broccoli whip right away".
@Bolgi Wow good job on being racist. Just because hes austrian you compare him to hitler? Guess what hitler probably has more in common with you seeing as he promoted a vegan like lifestyle. Good job on being a total dumbass. ThatguyFromAustria this is a good video keep up the good work. Austria is a pretty country I hope to visit it someday.
Glad to see someone who thinks entirely logical, good vid
VortalStar 3 weeks ago
Vegan activist are annoying and violent trying to force people to change diet will not work.
xgentis 1 month ago
I belive it could be healthy to eat mostly vegan and a little bit meat and maybe more fish them meat. But whole grain bread is also healthy. I belive mutch vegetables are more healthy tham mutch fruit, because in fruit it is mutch sugar.
fettkatt87 1 month ago
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MegaSmud 1 month ago
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MegaSmud 1 month ago
Beautifully stated! I loved the entire video, but the last bit was so true. They must accept the reality of nature.
FemmeBleu 2 months ago
Excellent video. Put these Vegan's in their place.
southboy99 3 months ago
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Is eating meat primitive? /watch?v=aS5CpSXDULM
haridham 3 months ago
The vegan interwebz mob scary indeedy! lolz
Go eat a chicken!
bl91978 4 months ago
Here's another fact that goes unnoticed by these idiots. No milk and no eggs means no more pancakes, waffles, cookies, or any other baked good! Their bullshit will kill more than just the meat industry but also the baking industry! No more delicious bread, no cookies-sweet and sugary or otherwise-and NO MORE BREAKFAST!!!!
NUTCASE71733 4 months ago
@NUTCASE71733 think bigger! medicine would no longer be tested on animals (meaning either testing it on humans or no medicine at all), and medicine that had engridients that come from animals? you can just forget about all the lives they are saving! and not to mention antivenom which is gathered from animals that produce the venom which are kept in captivity! you can just forget about being saved from a poisonous snake/spider
Bottom line the vegans will fuck up the world if they aren't stoped
killer21334 4 months ago
@NUTCASE71733
What do you mean no more breakfast or waffles or cookies? I made vegan pancakes last night o.o and I made vegan sugar cookies for halloween. o.o I'd recommend learning a bit more about veganism before claiming another thing as a "fact."
lunarblessing 4 months ago
Doesn't she realize that the nine pounds of makeup she's got caked on her face is made from animal fat?
Magnoodles 4 months ago
@Magnoodles, not neccessarily. There is a hell lot of vegan-compatible makeup.
ThatGuyFromAustria 4 months ago
I've been a Vegetarian for 28 years. I feel great because of it. I still eat dairy, but only in cheese. I drink Almond milk instead of milk. Read the book "Eating Animals" by Jonathan Safran Foer. You'll want to be vegan after reading that.
The2Cool4School 4 months ago
@The2Cool4School, sorry, but with my capacity for logical thinking intact, I am not susceptible for emotionalizing. Feel free to watch the other videos of my antivegan playlist.
ThatGuyFromAustria 4 months ago
@The2Cool4School I have read that book and it is full of propaganda. You should read "Nutrition and Physical Degeneration" by: Weston A. Price, DDS. It far surpaces anything in that book "Eating Animals". I posted a video titled "Examining Vegan Propaganda - Spiritual, Epidemiological, Anthropological w/ Makeda Voletta"
TheBodyScientist81 4 months ago
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This is a great video. Thank you for this. I am so tired of the VEGAN PROPAGANDA. People should read "Nutrition and Physical Degeneration" by: Weston A. Price, DDS. I posted a video titled "Examining Vegan Propaganda - Spiritual, Epidemiological, Anthropological w/ Makeda Voletta". And I speak about much of this too. This video is so needed. Thank you! :-)
TheBodyScientist81 4 months ago
WOOOOW some thousend years do you even know how long humans lived on the earth?
TBU1992 5 months ago
Did he just say "agriculture in the tundra?", after telling us we could use the non-agriculture-friendly land for pasture? I can't think of many cattle that would survive using tundra as pasture either...
nondairydreamer 5 months ago
dir muss aber auch sehr sehr sehr langweilig sein um soviel Sch**** ins Netz zu stellen. der einzige der erwachsen werden sollte bist du. Ausserdem wieso sprichst du Englisch, das dich ja viele Leute verstehen? Was hat dich eigentlich geritten so gegen Veganer vorzugehen? Ist deine Ex Veganerin und die hat irgenwann gemerkt das du immer noch ein kleines Kind bist und hat dich dann verlassen? Und jetzt ist das kleine Kind auf alle Veganer(innen) angefressen und führt einen "Krieg" gegen Veganer
freeanimals1 7 months ago
@freeanimals1, typisch Gemüsetaliban, sofort beleidigend werden bzw. unter die Gürtellinie zielen (zumindest: es versuchen), mangels faktischer Argumentation. Ich hab eine ganze Playlist voller Videos die genau ausführen, WARUM Veganismus purer Schwachsinn ist, wennst das nicht durchdrückst bzw. Englisch (die lingua franca des Internets) nicht verstehst, ist das dein Problem.
ThatGuyFromAustria 7 months ago
@ThatGuyFromAustria und du bist nicht beleidigend gegenüber Veganer? Aber egal. finde es gibt viel wichtiger Dinge als gegen Veganer soviel ins Netz zu stellen. Scheinbar bist du ja gegen Rassismus, wieso stellst du da nichts rein, oder hast du Angst vor den Nazis. Eines würde mich aber wirklich interessieren wieso du das alles machst? Du sagst ja Vegan sein ist eine extreme Ideologie, wie würdest du dann Death Metal beschreiben? lg dein Gemüsetaliban
freeanimals1 7 months ago
@freeanimals1 Google ist dein Freund. Begriff „antivegan“, die .at-Seite ist meine. Und: belästige mich nicht weiter.
ThatGuyFromAustria 7 months ago
omg.... this made me laugh ;'3
firemonkey4me 7 months ago
"Propaganda is a form of communication that is aimed at influencing the attitude of a community toward some cause or position so as to benefit oneself." How do vegans benefit from converting people to veganism? Why do you think they make this 'propaganda'? Do you not consider the meat & dairy industry to be more guilty of creating propaganda? They have A LOT to gain from you consuming their products.
brianv00 7 months ago
@brianv00 and the people who grow vegetables don't? please don't even try, your making yourself look like a moron, may Odin bless you with the wisdom to not be a retard
cartoonkingforeever 7 months ago
@cartoonkingforeever Grow up. This internet name-calling stuff is pathetic. Answer my questions with a sensible reply or just don't bother. In fact just don't bother.
brianv00 7 months ago
@brianv00 how was that internet name calling? are you saying that before the internet people didn't call other people retards? now that was a bad comeback
cartoonkingforeever 7 months ago
This guy is a vegans worst nightmare!! Informative and brutally honest. Thanks
manowar40 8 months ago
i am American and i am so sorry that a women from my country can be such a retard and make the most stupidest statement i have ever heard
cartoonkingforeever 8 months ago
you vegans need fucking pills to get your calcium, great way to be unnatural hypocrites
cartoonkingforeever 8 months ago
@cartoonkingforeever Where did you hear that?
brianv00 7 months ago
@brianv00 okay i will admit that that was uncalled for but my point is that all of vegans propaganda can be very easily broken
cartoonkingforeever 7 months ago
@cartoonkingforeever I'm used people being harsh online, but I am interested to know where you heard that. It's normally dairy industry 'propaganda' that makes up this calcium nonsense.
brianv00 7 months ago
@brianv00 this may sound stupid but i think that pill thing was from the Simpsons. but anyway what proof shows that milk doesn't have calcium or that we don't need it? and you forget milk also has vitamin D, humans are very physically weak compared to other animals so we need calcium to keep our bones strong so your telling me that because your vegan your now going to doubt that we need calcium? and we have been drinking milk since the dawn of agriculture which was over eight thousand years ago
cartoonkingforeever 7 months ago
@brianv00 also your making the same mistake the woman shown in this video made, you are not taking human history into account and milk has high nutritional value so are you now going to say that's bull crap? then i could say your vegan diets are bull crap to because why should i believe your evidence? it was made by vegans who treat veganism like a religion. i can fight fire with fire but i choose not to because i will get burned like the vegans he pwned
cartoonkingforeever 7 months ago
@brianv00 and the people of the dairy industry are humans like you and me so i say their nowhere near as propagandist than those vegan extremist, i will drink milk because it's very good for you and the cow is not harmed in process of collecting it, i mean dude have you ever worked with farm animals? because i have and you know what the cows are just fine, all they do is just eat their grass and will occasionally look at me and that's it, THERE IS NO ABUSE, if there was they would be arrested
cartoonkingforeever 7 months ago
@cartoonkingforeever I'm glad you worked on a good farm, but there is so much abuse you couldn't even believe it. It's really, really disgraceful. Makes me wonder about humans as a species with this stuff going on and people don't even know it. Watch the documentary Earthlings for real footage from inside the industry (it's on YouTube). There is a lot of impartial evidence on milk as well, although scientists who research it tend to become vegan based on their findings.
brianv00 7 months ago
@brianv00 and how do you know that is not staged like in the snuff videos? and please tell how the hell is milking a cow abuse? please tell me? and so we kill animals for meat so what? a wolf kills Bambi for meat, we are animals so what gives a wolf the right to eat meat and not us. WE EVOLVED EATING MEAT, WE ARE OMNIVOROUS, the herbivorous humanoids before us Homo sapiens evolved DIED OUT why did they die? because their food became scarce and could compete with other herbivores
cartoonkingforeever 7 months ago
@cartoonkingforeever Watch it and see if you think it's staged
brianv00 7 months ago
@cartoonkingforeever - research HOW milk is harvested and say the same. I'm not vegan, but come on people! The PROCESS of factory farming is not natural = FACT. I don't care if someone hunts for their own food. They usually eat it all. Do you hunt? or pay factory farmers to kill for you and have numerous animals suffer so that the brat at the food court can take one bite and tell mommy he doesn't want any more. I challenged one person before and now you...go watch a food court a few times.
raphaels4 6 months ago
@raphaels4 i don't get where you think your going with your argument but factory farming is changing like with some they stopped giving chickens and cow hormones to grow, and by the laws of nature anything you can do your allowed to do it so if we can mass produce meat from factory farming then by the laws of nature we are allowed to do it and as they say nature can be a bitch
cartoonkingforeever 6 months ago
@cartoonkingforeever - well, if you're going to bring up wolves, then hunt like a wolf. You probably can't. If all this wonderful factory farming was taken away, MOST PEOPLE WOULD DIE. They don't know how to survive NATURALLY. I'm glad you worked on a good farm, kuddos to you, but it doesn't change the artificial insemination of cows and taking of their calves so humans could have foods and some calves go for veal in many cases. It doesn't change the inhumane slaughtering process.
raphaels4 6 months ago
@raphaels4 dude i could hunt if i wanted to, did you that you could hunt down Bambi and kill it with just your bare hands? you know why? because although deer are fast they can't maintain a fast sprint for long distances we have far more stamina and when you reach the exhausted animal you can kill it by simply breaking it's neck or you can use a knife or what ever sharp thing you have on you, i eat meat and i have yet to suffer from the diabetes and obesity that you vegan keep screaming about
cartoonkingforeever 6 months ago
@cartoonkingforeever - first of all please read my first comment. I typed in plain English- I AM NOT VEGAN. Now that we've cleared that up...yes, I would think someone lived under a rock if they were unaware that people, mostly modern day tribes in Africa, hunt down freakin' cheetahs and more barefoot with just a spear. I'm amazed but respect them because they actually eat it and are *gasp* GRATEFUL! Humans have gotten careless and lazy in the way they "survive" in the modern world.
raphaels4 6 months ago
@raphaels4 even if we didn't eat, we still throw away tons of other food products and the reason we are lazy is because of the industrial revolution nothing is perfect the industrial did cause harm to many things but if it didn't happen then all the technology we use today would not exist
cartoonkingforeever 6 months ago
@cartoonkingforeever - As far as the food court comment...go to any restaurant of food court and watch how people so easily waste and throw away this NEEDED food. USA is a very wasteful country and doesn't appreciate what it has. So why should animals be slaughtered non-stop inhumanely just to go in the trash by a wasteful human?
raphaels4 6 months ago
@raphaels4 yeah humans do waste and that is something we have stop doing but the point is we humans evolved eating meat, if we hadn't eaten meat we would have gone extinct like herbivorous humanids before us, once again you keep jumping form excuse to the next and i have countered all them which makes you look like just another ignorant vegan,
cartoonkingforeever 6 months ago
@cartoonkingforeever -Jumping?LOL! My original comment was that factory farming practices at a lot of places are inhumane. YOU brought up wolves, so I made a comment about wolves and hunting, then mentioned that the people that do hunt aren't wasteful. Factory farming is in a response to WASTEFULNESS. This is my final response since you obviously can't read. I AM NOT VEGAN, but see flaws in BOTH sides' trying to be superior. However, if someone disagrees with you, you name call...grow up!
raphaels4 6 months ago
@raphaels4 did i call you a vegan? no i didn't said you where acting just like a vegan extremist fine my point is that i don't believe in the whole milk is murder and that factory farms are doing abuse, i believe it's vegan propaganda.
cartoonkingforeever 6 months ago
@brianv00 we EVOLVED eating meat, it was what kept us from going extinct, we EVOLVED using tools, it was what kept us from getting eaten by a saber-tooth tiger, we EVOLVED wearing clothes that where made out of animal skins. we do not need to eat plants the Inuits are proof of that so saying we don't have to eat because we have vegan diets just sounds ridiculous and are easily broken, your arguments and intolerance for other peoples opinions are a real headache to us logical people
cartoonkingforeever 7 months ago
Dude, if you are not aware of the conditions of animals on factory farms, where you get your meat, then watch a video like "From Farm to Fridge" (12 minutes long) or the amazing full length documentary "Earthlings," both available for free on youtube, and see for yourself the immorality and depravity of factory farm life for food animals. it is a HOLOCAUST for them. That is no exaggeration. If you can't watch a slaughterhouse video because it disgusts you, then don't eat meat. Responsibility...
SuperAnimalDrummer 8 months ago
@SuperAnimalDrummer, buddy, I can tell you ONE thing for sure, you have NEVER seen an actual factory farm from the inside.
ThatGuyFromAustria 8 months ago
@ThatGuyFromAustria Have you? Have you witnessed the atrocities of workers abusing animals? Pigs and chickens being boiled alive in the fur removal tanks? Debeaking Chickens? Castrating pigs, docking tails, cutting off ears, and pulling out front teeth of piglets without anesthetic? Dehorning of Cattle? Branding on the face? If so, how can you maintain your arguments against Vegans and not sympathize with their sentiments on the subject? I am not understanding your motivation.
SuperAnimalDrummer 8 months ago
@SuperAnimalDrummer, yup, 've seen such factory farms. Found them clean and orderly. Btw, do you know WHY animals are castrated, beakers trimmed, cattle dehorned? For a similar reason people cut their fingernails. And of course you don't understand my motivation. Why should anybody question propaganda?
ThatGuyFromAustria 8 months ago
@ThatGuyFromAustria No. That's not why. It is so pigs don't canabilize eachother when they are packed so tightly into pens, and eat eachothers open wound soars, each others ears, and tails... that is why.
Of course, when you go to a factory farm as a visitor, you are not going to see the bad stuff. They don't want you to see that. They don't want you to see that. Why don't you try watching undercover footage of factory farms instead on relying on a walkthru. watch "Farm to Fridge" on youtube
SuperAnimalDrummer 8 months ago
@SuperAnimalDrummer, I've not been to such farms as a visitor, but as a friend of the owner or family members of them. Believe me, each pack of wolves or horde of pigs is more brutal than a farm where you have medical care, a warm stable, always enough food... for the animals.
I really bet you've never ever seen such a "factory" farm from the inside.
ThatGuyFromAustria 8 months ago
@ThatGuyFromAustria Giant corporations own factory farms to increase profit by cutting down on costs by means of economies of scale which says, the larger the operation, the less cost per unit, hence, higher profits. That is great for the corporation, but terrible for the animals. They suffer, being treated as commodities. Your point falls apart when practices that are considered "STANDARD" by the industry are torturous: CASTRATION, DEBEAKING, DEHORNING, GRINDING LIVING MALE CHICKS... see?
SuperAnimalDrummer 8 months ago
@SuperAnimalDrummer, no, you really never have seen a factory farm from the inside, nor have you any idea about how media work. I have a video in my antivegan playlist, about selective perception. Get a basic education about media.
ThatGuyFromAustria 8 months ago
@ThatGuyFromAustria ===> "about selective perception."
Exactly true, but I prefer just calling it propaganda.
1/2 truths = propaganda
You can apply the technique to absolutely anything you want. Simply list everything bad and good about something and throw away the good list. What you have left will make anything in this world look evil.
PS I wish you had not blocked him. I would have loved to take a shot at him. Free speech and freedom of expression and all that.
rosepetal108 8 months ago
@rosepetal108 in another comment he threatened to "hound" me, after throwing a number of insults in my direction. Sorry, in that case, I hardly had any other choice, or I would have gotten myself somebody spamming to kingdom come, and I could not allow that. Feel free to message him.
ThatGuyFromAustria 8 months ago
@ThatGuyFromAustria No worries mate. I actually have messaged him before and shut him down very easily and quickly.
The trick is to stay calm. Never throw personal attacks. Stick with the truth. Honestly be compassionate, because 99.99 % of Vegans truly believe the propaganda they have been taught. Once you understand that, then you can't help but show compassion. They truly believe they are doing the right thing. Freedom of religion is something to agree. They have the right to Veganism
rosepetal108 8 months ago
@ThatGuyFromAustria
Do you think you could block SuperAnimalDrummer?
I hate having people spam.
madcat789 8 months ago
@madcat789, I just did. He said he will "hound" me, for I was such a bad person and worked for the meat industry, bla bla bla. Well, he wants to hound me? If this is not a reason for blocking somebody, then what is?
ThatGuyFromAustria 8 months ago
@ThatGuyFromAustria
Hound? Isn't that a fancy name for "Stalking"? If so then you could press charges against him..but this is the internet, hes just a troll that will get bored and go away.
madcat789 8 months ago
@ThatGuyFromAustria Untli you watch some documentary footage on factory farms, don't comment. YOu didn't see anything. Watch "Farm to Fridge," "Earthlings," "If Slaughterhouse had Glass Walls." YOu are ignorant dude. You don't kill your own meat, so don't bring up animals killing each other as an argument. You let giant corporations do it for you, and let them treat animals like objects. that's weak. You're arguments are really frustrating to listen to, because they are self-serving.
SuperAnimalDrummer 8 months ago
@SuperAnimalDrummer, you just named a bunch of propaganda movies, you also might watch my video (it's in the antivegan playlist) "I have seen it on TV" - selective perception. I for my part *know* how movies are made, sorry, buddy, but if *that* is the reason for your vegan lifestyle, then I have to tell you, you've been conned.
ThatGuyFromAustria 8 months ago
@ThatGuyFromAustria You're an idiot. How does a film or pictures lie? How can undercover footage of factory farms be propoganda? It has a motive and a reason for existing, yes... to expose truth. Propoganda would be what you are doing, to support the status quo, the corporations, the institution of the industry, the cruel treatment of animals. YOU are the propoganda. The little people trying to expose the cruelty and find truth are the heros who try to give animals a voice who can not speak.
SuperAnimalDrummer 8 months ago
@ThatGuyFromAustria Secondly, because you visited ONE factory farm on one particular day, does not mean you are going to see that which is shown in films all the time. It depends on what country you are in, and how big the operation. In the USA, factory farms are terrible. Being that you are Austrian, which is a much smaller country, I am assuming the operation was smaller, and probably wasn't a "factory farm' by US scale. Stop trying to sound like you know what you are talking about.
SuperAnimalDrummer 8 months ago
@ThatGuyFromAustria I'm still waiting for a reply on 'how I've been conned' by such movies as Earthlings or 'From Farm to Fridge' (which everybody reading this should watch. This guy is a liar). Earthlings, never mention the word Vegan once, in the movie, so tell me: how can it be vegan propoganda? How is Farm to Fridge Vegan propoganda? I am waiting to hear from you. I don't think you have a real response. If you can somehow prove that animal cruelty isn't regular in factory farms, do it...
SuperAnimalDrummer 8 months ago
@ThatGuyFromAustria Further, the fact that you support such suffering and argue for reasons to continue it or morally reprehensible. You're self-righteous notions exist only so you can continue enjoying meat, without regard for the pain the animal suffers to give you. That is selfish, irresponsible, and immature behavior. Perhaps you are an immoral person. I have to make that judgement given your stances and supposed knowledge of factory farms, which I believe is incomplete despite your visit.
SuperAnimalDrummer 8 months ago
It's pronounced "Vegan" not "Weegan." Get it right, asshole!
1imesub 8 months ago
@1imesub well, pronunciation being the only concern + an insult shows me that there is really nothing you have to say. Do that somewhere else. Blocked.
ThatGuyFromAustria 8 months ago
Another ignorant meat pusher trying to sound intelligent... yawn...
1imesub 8 months ago
@1imesub Another fucking Vegan trying to force people to go Vegitarian.
madcat789 8 months ago
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1imesub 8 months ago
@madcat789 Well, if you 'choose' to continue eating meat, don't come crying to me when you get colon cancer.
1imesub 8 months ago
@1imesub
And don't come crying to me when you are nothing but skin and bones and is so weak that even a flick would hurt you.
madcat789 8 months ago
Agriculture: Of course not every crop will grow everywhere. The thing is, that more than half of already harvested grain on this planet is used to feed livestock. And that livestock produces far less (both by weight or calorie) than the plant's equivalent nutritional value.
I'm right there with you that that those radical views of every world problem solved by veganism are just a myth, but the concept of it being more efficient than today's excessive meat consumption is valid I suppose ;)
mhe0815 9 months ago
Vegan Fascism..
gothexperiments 9 months ago
Vegan fasism..
gothexperiments 9 months ago
It's omnivores which are naive! Do You really think that Human can survive egoistically? Human is an animal which has to evolve. So return in your cavern and remained a primitiv human. The liberty is in non violence and equanimity by work on ourselves and not in the domination, ignorance and self-conceit.
Yes, it is a pretentious video!
Dunia67 9 months ago
Yes, it's true ! Many vegans are naive. They make vids among dogs and cats and forget that these animals are carnivors, or even worse, they feed them with vegetarian products. This is STUPID! Now, get ready for another kind of vegetarian: I dislike animals (I don't want them as food, entertainment or even pets anymore), I am not religious, I discovered that "nutritionism" like any "ism" is extremism. So, next time try a reply with Brendan Brazier or Robert Cheeke, don't waste time with this
tudorfotopro 10 months ago
love your video - hope more and more vegans will grow up :)
v306 10 months ago
this seems more like propaganda than the other video. as soon as I heard an insult I didn't taking anything seriously.
Liton777 11 months ago
1:21 I think it is obvious; the dairy industry hase a time machine.
1StoryImageFigure1 1 year ago
Some vegans (ONLY SOME) are treating themselves like cave men. Yes, it's unhealthy to eat most kinds of raw meat, but because humans are extremely intelligent they discovered that cooked meat has lots of nutrition when eaten as a part of a healthy and balanced diet. Same with milk, and all other animal products. Cruelty? It's nature. And there is nothing cruel about free range, stress free farming. Do you beleive that we should also live in mud huts because houses may require intelligence?
BobdaLobsta 1 year ago
sorry, what i meant to say before my phone uploaded that comment, is that the guy who made this video is ignorant. not rory freedman.
karinau121 1 year ago
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karinau121 1 year ago
Come for me Veganculters, try to pry that roasted lambs leg out of my hand. You can have it over my dead body. Veganculters are 6 times more likely to have brain atrophy than meat eaters.
tickyul 1 year ago
@tickyul Funny, that the percentage of well educated people among vegetarians are a lot higher than compared to meat eating people...
MrsDagegen 1 year ago
@MrsDagegen Yeah, until their brains shrivel up.
tickyul 1 year ago
@tickyul Looks like yours is shriveled up already... or is was there ever something to shrivel??? mh...
MrsDagegen 1 year ago
@MrsDagegen You do know that brain atrophy is more common among Vegans, or do you just like to post snide remarks????? And if Veganculters are so smart, why would they put kids on this diet....just selfish I guess.
tickyul 1 year ago
@tickyul
really? Thomas Edison was a meat eater and he was the father of inventions?
and vegans smarter? Like Hitler and Himler?
TheChoujinVirus 11 months ago
@TheChoujinVirus I think you may have misread my posts. I am an Anti-Vegan, I have been in a war of words with these wackadoodles for quite a while.
tickyul 11 months ago
@ZombiesAteMyKat Must be a true ideologue, that is the main reason people go overboard with their thinking when it comes to food.
tickyul 1 year ago
Mh, concerning the milk: search for "Dr Veith - Krankmacher Milch 1-9" on youtube.
since you are "that guy from austria" i guess you understand german. If not: go through the whole video (9 parts) and look up all shown scientific papers the guy is referring to. If you live like a Japanese and have a plant-based diet, do not consume any milk products and just eat some fish and meat occasionaly, i guess you really do have a good diet there. Otherwise.... you know
MrsDagegen 1 year ago
haha this video made me laugh.but it has defenitiely truth in it.vegans need their B12 through pills or elsethey get problems with their digestion and/or brain etc.these are well known facts.w are not Gorilla's.and also...many of those vegans act as if they are the only ones who live righteous.many of them are arrogant cynical pricks.
555Nato 1 year ago
Gee, this is one of weakest arguments I've seen on this topic. It's really cute that you fancy yourself a philosopher :)
RuinOrPeace 1 year ago
I wish I still lived in Europe.
pampamproductions 1 year ago
Wow, youre an idiot. You have far too much time on your hands. Weegan? lol
XdisXesXwhyXimXhawtX 1 year ago
There is a very good and well researched website that seems to take all point of view into consideration. This is called Beyond Vegetarianism and uses the org address beyondveg.
As a person attempting to take an interest in my health I found this extremely interesting and it may be of interest to others.
alanheath2 1 year ago
I agree with the basic thrust of what I have heard here of the vegan argument as far as meat is concerned. Meat has limited efficiency as it has to be harvested twice - the first time from crops to feed the animals and the second time when the animal is killed. Meat production is responsible for almost one quarter of greenhouse gases (although some sources put it lower).
On the other hand I think moderation in everything. I can do without meat, doing without eggs and milk would be. v. hard.
alanheath2 1 year ago
Spot on video, members of the Vegancult would like people to believe their lies. Truly a great rebuttal to this smarmy do-gooder who thinks her way is the only way, live off tofu and other crap like that.
tickyul 1 year ago
And the award for strawmanning in order to compensate for a complete inability to consider opposing viewpoints goes to... ThatGuyFromAustria!
Orbsan13 1 year ago
absolutely love the last line!
theDrewid 1 year ago
love it...walue lol your accent
BizaroMustard100 1 year ago
grow up and start pissing out your asshole no thanks cas thats what happens when u eat meat and milk no fiber
ejb40plp 1 year ago
This is ridiculous, haha. It's not even paying attention to what she's saying. It's easy to win an argument when you make up your opponent's stance...
MagicalFenfen 1 year ago
I hate eating meat ... don't much like the smell or taste ... yet I'm VERY healthy ... zero health problems ... zero prescriptions ... I haven't been to a doctor in years ... no reason to go ... so anyone who says that not eating meat is unhealthy, is ignorant ... they're just making excusing because they LIKE to eat it. so just admit that is what it is, and let us who dislike it go on disliking it.
MonikaLeeDidi 1 year ago
It is ironic that this new age veganism philosophy comes mainly from America, the only country that didn't sign the Kyoto protocol...
lakeb0dom 1 year ago
1. Milk is for babies, Mother milk for human babies, Cows Milk for Cows babies, calves, Horse Milk for Horse babies, bay colt, Chimpanze milk for chimpanze babies
2. There is almost no wild animal who drinks milk after it has been weaned
3. Almost every vegan was a time vegetarian and before then maybe also a meat eater. So they have experienced the advantages by themselves.
What about you? Have you ever tried it to live just for one month vegan?
4. I am a rawfood eater for over 20 years
Greenfullworld 1 year ago
@Greenfullworld, ad 1 & 2 have you even cared to watch that video??? Ad 3, I have lived without supplements my whole life. Have you?
ThatGuyFromAustria 1 year ago
@ThatGuyFromAustria Yes, I watched the video. And I understand, that you do not want to let everything like the vegan woman said. That is okay for me. But is she really so wrong? There are no studies about the the health of vegans, just only theoretical opinions of non-vegan or non-vegetarien scientists. So you have live of a vegan diet or have you just lived without supplements? I never ate any supplement and have gained 10 kg of muscles in the time I ate 99% fresh fruits, veggies, nuts, salad
Greenfullworld 1 year ago
@Greenfullworld, a vegan diet without supplements is simply physically not possible. To claim to live on a vegan diet without them is as credible as if you told me you can live without food at all, make water flow upwards or walk on clouds. Because there ARE the respective papers out there and a number of case studies. You may watch some of my other videos concerning veganism on that issue.
ThatGuyFromAustria 1 year ago
@ThatGuyFromAustria Which supplements do you mean? I eat 100% natural nothing out of pills, capsules or that stuff. I do not eat any nutrition supplements att all. Period. If you cannot believe this, shows me that you do not have any practice knowledge. you just think that it is not possible to live without supplements at vegan diet, because of theoretical background from people, who either have not tried to live for a minimum of more than 2 month on a vegan diet I think. But you are wrong.
Greenfullworld 1 year ago
@Greenfullworld, yeah, me and 100% of all dietitians... Check my video on the ADA-paper.
ThatGuyFromAustria 1 year ago
@ThatGuyFromAustria 100% how could you possible make a claim like that, 100% are you serious, even the dietitians that are vegan agree with you then! They would also have to be included in your 100%
Scottzer1 1 year ago
@ThatGuyFromAustria I live vegan without supplements, are you telling me I'm achieving the impossible!
Scottzer1 1 year ago
@Scottzer1
no, just that you've been eating GMOd Crops or Crops that have been fortified
TheChoujinVirus 11 months ago
@TheChoujinVirus
ooh
my mistake ^ ^;
TheChoujinVirus 11 months ago
@TheChoujinVirus yes, like most people on the planet! If I can buy oats milk with calcium, I'm going to buy oats milk with calcium it seems pretty logical and straight forward.
Scottzer1 11 months ago
@Scottzer1
well, at least your not those soy nuts
TheChoujinVirus 11 months ago
@ThatGuyFromAustria
First: What is so bad about supplements? (Hint: You can't use the "unnatural" argument because of your first point).
Second: What qualifies as supplement? In many "normal" food there are also supplements. Just for example the multivitamin juice from my local and totally normal juice market contains enaugh supplemental B12 per day with 200 ml.
chrisxy123 11 months ago
@ThatGuyFromAustria I had horrible migraines for 20 years...and seeing my dad who still has them, i was desparate for a way to get rid of them. I came across several medical doctors with nutritional expertise and they said cut out meat and dairy. Meat, milk and cheese were staples for me, so i replaced them with fruit, nuts and veggies, and migraines are 100% gone for 1 year now, which is when I started. I still have dairy here and there, in desserts, which i am reducing. You just have to try.
RachedHayek 11 months ago
@RachedHayek, I have no migraine.
ThatGuyFromAustria 11 months ago
@Greenfullworld - I recommend you watch C0nc0rdance's video on the raw food diet.
DoctorChainsaw 1 year ago
@Greenfullworld - Check out C0nc0rdance's videos on Raw Food.
DoctorChainsaw 1 year ago
@Greenfullworld SOOOO?
LAWAGO 1 year ago
@Greenfullworld My cat jumps up onto the counter and drinks milk when I'm not looking.
pampamproductions 1 year ago
My only critique on this video is that it doesn't address two very common hypocritical points about vegans: 1) most of them are pro choice.... meaning it's okay for them to have an abortion, but I can't eat my omelette and 2) the fact that studies have shown that children born to vegan parents are more prone to being born retarded and underweight with a number of additional health issues.
If the vegan "movement" continues, it'll be interesting to see the next generation and the consequences.
jjrants 1 year ago
@jjrants Just look at the daughter of Lillian Muller, Alice Coleman-Müller, then you have one example. Just see it in facebook. Hurry up.
Greenfullworld 1 year ago
Sounds like you're full of opinions and little fact. Keep hating, while I enjoy the most healthy and happy time of my life thus far.
LloydChristmas777 1 year ago
lo !
funny when morons like u really FIGHT against vegans, either u are paid by some industry or you are just plain dumb.
whoever does not see where our lifestyle (burgers and cars) leads us, is just stupid .
i order you to use your precious time for more important things.
britlx 1 year ago
@britlx, yeah, considering that we ate meat ever since (2.5 million years), and burgers and cars is not really THAT old ... meat must be the cause, ey? Talking 'bout "plain stupid"...
ThatGuyFromAustria 1 year ago
You are absolutely right...But you forget several things : using petrol is immoral only by its consequences. I didn't see vegans go to the tundra (maybe there are :-) ) and again, veganism isn't the solution to all the problems...But did you know that being vegan is good for the environment too? A lot of studies prove that a vegan is maybe 10 times less noxious for the environment than an non-vegan.
rev0lutie 1 year ago
@rev0lutie, I know these "studies", and none of them could be verified. Eating meat is not the problem, mankind did it ever since. The concentration of greenhouse gasses et cetera skyrocketed after WW2, and the recent decrease in greenhouse gas emissions is due to the economic crisis.
There is no factual reason to go vegan.
ThatGuyFromAustria 1 year ago
Hello
The response to overpopulation of animals is to stop creating them, isn't it? The Earth is not our property. The meat is not the real problem. The real problem is domination and injustice. The real problem is the lack of compassion and reason. If we want to find solutions, we can. I don't know everything, I don't have all the answers but I know one thing : the animals want to live and to avoid pain and we, the humans, we can live without killing and torturing them...
rev0lutie 1 year ago
@rev0lutie, we can also live without petrol and industry, contributing a great deal to the possibility that we may bring down life on Earth. I have never seen any veggie move to the tundra, tough.
ThatGuyFromAustria 1 year ago
You are absolutely right...But you forget several things : using petrol is immoral only by its consequences. I didn't see vegans go to the tundra (maybe there are :-) ) and again, veganism isn't the solution to all the problems...But did you know that being vegan is good for the environment too? A lot of studies prove that a vegan is maybe 10 times less noxious for the environment than a non-vegan.
rev0lutie 1 year ago
@rev0lutie Using your logic, every city in industrialized world by now would be overrun with cockroaches, which in theory, could literally prove to be fatal to our species if it were never treated. (what they've been proven to carry includes 32 different kinds of bacterial diseases, 17 fungal diseases, 2 viruses and 3 protozoa- related illnesses). Cross contamination is the #1 cause of foodboorne illnesses and if they were never dealt with, we'd be constantly sick. Ever had salmonella?
jjrants 1 year ago
The guy from Austria: good luck trying to speak logically to these vegan morons. It is like reasoning with a brick wall. Let them miss out! It is their loss! I'm going to continue to enjoy my hamburgers, chicken, pork chops, and sausages! Have fun vegans with your carrot sticks! LOL
sjwright76 1 year ago
u prick
vinny111 1 year ago
So true. so true.
taomajick 1 year ago
Some people are terrified of evolutionary leaps. Veganism is one such leap. Of course people are going to get the shits when positive change occurs. It's the ego's natural response. Very predictable.
Bolgi 1 year ago
Sieg Heil... And you may also watch my antivegan video #13 about human evolution.
ThatGuyFromAustria 1 year ago
@ThatGuyFromAustria You seem to bear some similarities with the little corporal Hitler. Thing's did not really work out for him or his one testicle.
Bolgi 1 year ago
@Bolgi, you didn't get it, did you? We had such bullshit about a "leap of evolution" allready. They called it the "Übermensch", and it too had no factual basis other than some guys ridden by inferiority complexes wanting to be morally superior.
ThatGuyFromAustria 1 year ago
@Bolgi What harm does a vegan cause? You seem to think that vegans have some kind of a disease. Sure, there are some fanatics out there but on the whole, vegans are lovely, peaceful and giving people who just want to make the world a better place.
Factory farming is a vile business and has no place in a civilized world, no matter what you think. Vegans harm no-one. You seem like a bitter human.
Bolgi 1 year ago
@Bolgi well....vegans don't really cause harm (unless they are apart of/support PETA), but I am just saying...would you tell a farmer how to do his job....? Factory farming isn't a pretty site, but it keeps us fed. my ancestors didn't climb to the top of the food chain so that I could eat grass all day.
taomajick 1 year ago
@taomajick I am a vegan and I am perfectly fed without having to slaughter animals. I am the first vegan in my family (who originally were from Latvia) who hasn't suffered from heart disease, diabetes, high cholesterol and numerous other ailments.
Have I just been lucky?
My view is that vegans make it a point to be peaceful with everyone. I know very well that there are exceptions. The ego is still active in many.
Why don't you direct your energies to fighting real evils?
Bolgi 1 year ago
@Bolgi well to answer your question, you moved from latvia to america,of course you're not going to be as sickly,the health care here is better. All I am trying to drive at is, if vegans didn't get in our faces about their lifestyle we'd be fine. If omnivores didn't judge vegans harshly, you'd be fine. solution: don't act self righteous because you don't eat anything with face. that's all vegans have to do! no issue over what anyone eats!
taomajick 1 year ago
@taomajick My family lived most of their lives in America with American health care, and they got sick and died. I never go to doctors or hospitals. Better health care has nothing to do with why I am healthier. Clearly.
Bolgi 1 year ago
@Bolgi I don't give a fuck. if I want to eat meat, I will eat meat. I don't give a damn about your health or your family's health.
taomajick 1 year ago
@taomajick Very intelligent response. You have quite a vocabulary.
Bolgi 1 year ago
@Bolgi No matter what crap you spew, I will always be an omnivore. But just to piss you off, for every animal you don't eat, I will eat three. 1 for me, 2 for you, and 3 to set your goals back. :D
taomajick 1 year ago
@taomajick Very original comeback. Stupid too. "For every animal I don't eat" ?? What the hell? I don't eat any animals you stupid idiot. What are you going to do? Eat every animal on the planet and beyond just to piss me off? I'm rolling on the floor laughing because of your sheer stupidity!!! Did you lose oxygen or fall on your head when your mother farted you out?
Bolgi 1 year ago
@Bolgi Veganism and Vegetarianism..HA! what a joke.
taomajick 1 year ago
@taomajick Oh come on! Even you can do better than that!
Bolgi 1 year ago
@Bolgi What about insane parents who are members of the Vegancult, forcing their poor kids on this substandard diet that is seriously lacking in many nutrients and taste. "Gee, I think I will start my infant on the bean curd and broccoli whip right away".
tickyul 1 year ago
@tickyul What nutrients are in cooked meat? Give me a real researched answer,not a kneejerk response.
I am a vegan Personal Trainer and I bet I could physically out-do in just about anything you challenge me to.
Bolgi 1 year ago
@ThatGuyFromAustria you go my friend from Austria! I love your videos! Keep up the great work and keep making these great videos!
taomajick 1 year ago
@Bolgi Wow good job on being racist. Just because hes austrian you compare him to hitler? Guess what hitler probably has more in common with you seeing as he promoted a vegan like lifestyle. Good job on being a total dumbass. ThatguyFromAustria this is a good video keep up the good work. Austria is a pretty country I hope to visit it someday.
IronManOfficialguy 1 year ago