I very much dislike the FreeBSD installation process. Prefer OpenBSD. NetBSD sucks. Used to despise RedHat - but they got better. And running OpenSolaris recognizing my laptop? Rather get tied to a tree and get butt fucked by a grizzly bear
Wow. Talk about the good stuff. The specs are low. If I were you, I would just stick with windows. I bet FreeBSD will make you cry and jiggle very very much.
I installed FreeBSD today... First time with this OS. I just learned about ports, and decided to install X and Gnome using them. So If you have any problems with your reality today, please don't worry, it's only me re-compiling the entire universe. Normality will be restored... eventually.
I tried to use FreeBSD. I am clever, but I could not even get X running. I was hoping to run Sawfish and Rox-filer, but I failed. I wish that it were a bit easier to configure, but I definitely agree with the philosophy behind FreeBSD. I guess I just wish I were swell enough to work with it.
In my experience, both linux and FreeBSD do pretty much the same things, only with varying quality and work. The biggest difference is in how it's done.
prefer FreeBSD. its rock solid literally. FreeBSD is not ubuntu if you dont like BSD then DO NOT use it and DO NOT expect people to dumb it down for you because that is not happening go ruin someone elses project. theres a reason why the openbsd gnome guy got torn to shreds...
Hey, JROCK20041, what do you think about the differencies between FreeBSD and MacOSX's Darwin which was built on top of FBSD? do you find it faster, cleaner or the opposite?
who cares? are you fucking dumb or something? why should anyone care for his sexual orientation? do YOU care? are YOU a FAGGOT? people like you make internet a very childish place. No reasonable arguments, just stupid "he's a fag".
I don't think windows users could use freebsd for the first time as a desktop ( set-up a DE and stuff like that ...only if they want to read more documents ) ....i would say DesktopBSD( freeBSD with a KDE ) for new BSD comers .
why would you care about windows users not being able to use a computer running a unix-like OS anyway?
people trying a new to 'adopt' any bsd OS should start with the command line and learn about everything there is with it, then move on using x and whatever window manager if they absolutely need to use one so in the case that they don't know what to do with the GUI, they could just pop a terminal work from there.
if someone doesn't learn the commands and uses only the GUI, imo, he is retarded
I have noticed a lot of mud-slinging here at the FreeBSD project. As an entirely volunteer-driven project we need to be thankful that it exists and gives us a choice. For those that talk about Linux's desktop strengths, remember that but for software from proprietory vendors, linux would have done no better. Companies like IBM, HP and Oracle are contributing to LInux to promote their own middleware and hardware.
VMS and iOS are not exactly desktop OSes, but are untouchable in the server space.
Ports is great. The thing that makes it a bit difficult to argue for bsd on the desktop is the fact that theres gentoo. I think most of the time you are just going to have a better experience on gentoo simply because of hardware compatibility and amount of software ported for the system. Linux makes a fantastic server too, so I'm kind of wondering where bsd has the advantage even in the server world.
Gentoo has only recently seen progressive activity. You talk about linux being a fantastic choice for a server, but is this true of Gentoo? Many sysadmins have an issue with FreeBSD in that it is constantly evolving and needs to be updated ideally using ports in which case you need to compile changes. Debian's/Centos' method of tracking binary updates seems to be the prefered solution.
For serious server deployments Solaris, Stratus VOS, Tandem & iOS still seem to be the platforms of choice.
Is there anything wrong with linux on a serious server? Everything is ported to it, its stable, etc. At their core the distro doesn't really matter. Gentoo is nice just because it automates so much. If you have access to any fast computer, compiling is no problem, especially since you can chroot to your server over nfs and compile using external resources.
I can't speak for bsd as I don't use it, I just know linux is pleanty robust for the job.
I do not know what kind of servers you talk about. I worked as a sysadmin for a leading bank. So far as my experience goes, there are two factors that determine the platform of choice: Applications and Support. Both of these should give the highest benefit to the company.
In the case of running databases, Oracle runs only on RH, Suse and Oracle EL.
Also in some cases, features matter. Most stock exchanges use VMS, NSK or VOS to run the trading. Maybe you are talking about webhosting.bye
Oracle is piece of shit DB (i've dealt with it) lots of banks now days use their very own very custom DB. Red Hat has totally piece of shit support and very expensive(I've dealt with it) and distro itself is a piece of shit itself. In 2001 RHEL was THE leader, but then many people noticed its "shitness" and moved away from it. What is it about FreeBSD that makes it best for servers? THE LOGIC! THE CLEAN CODE! Very clean and neat os. Heck, I used to be mega linux fan until I tried FreeBSD...
@cfgauss: You can do a lot more than that. You could program a webcrawler to find only the type of porn you like and store it in a specific directory. Then setup FreeBSD to be an FTP server so you share your porn with everyone!
alright sounds good, I need several IPs to DL many Files at the same time this means i need several OS`s. well see if I can do this with freeBSD. Thanx for review
FreeBSD used to be good, and for some things it is still good. But the devfs file system which means I can no longer simply create a new /dev/null somewhere without using devfs is a pain in the arse. And X windows is now 250 or so packages rather than about 10. This is ridiculous.
linux mint is taken from ubuntu so if your going to use anything go with ubuntu. Also mint has extra security to keep the user out of things and thats not cool.
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I've just installed freebsd version 7 in virtual box 1.6.2. Compared to Ubuntu JOES -it is very much lacking in feature. free bsd is showing it age. I believe the IT field is moving towards linux. bottom line I don't like freebsd.
The only reason Linux is gaining share is due to third party applications - Oracle, BEA, Webshpere, EMC...
I would like to compare equals with equals. To be fair, you will need to compare FreeBSD with a similar distro. Generalising any advantages that a specific distro may enjoy over BSD to all linux distros is deluding.
How many companies use Ubunti Jeos in a production environment?
I like FBSD, and while there are many applications for it, it still is lacking in apps. CAD packages are lacking: 2D drafting and 3d modeling. Flash ain't working. Can't be on youtube. It's ok for a desktop. I like compiling all of the stuff for my machine. I have not tried linux for a long time. thinking about it. When I tried it before it took up more than one primary partition, but I was inexperienced at that time. Maybe ubuntu??
freebsd is for you if you wanna run a server machine! otherwise you will only get pain in your ass. as an alternative try ubuntu, if you don't like windows of course.
hmm, i tried installing freebsd, it seemed to have less ability at hardware recognition. i like ubuntu, but it seems to lack the reason i'd use something other than windows (which i dislike). but, if there was a distrobution that i'd replace crappy windows, ubuntu would be it. that or gentoo. ubuntu is just a joy to use. but like windows, it gets old fast, because it does nearly everything for you. whenever i can get freebsd running i'd be much happier.
I don't agree, even if happy with windows, freebsd, minix, and linux are all great options to just try. but its definitely not for people who don't back up their data, and are afraid of reformatting. but trying them is a good idea. especially for people who may like windows, but didn't know about how the others work. especially with the lack of big brother activities.
There are preinstalled laptops/normal computers with Linux! no need to reformatting and ** (note: Wubi, windows-based installer for Ubuntu) doesn't requier a different partition..etc
I very much dislike the FreeBSD installation process. Prefer OpenBSD. NetBSD sucks. Used to despise RedHat - but they got better. And running OpenSolaris recognizing my laptop? Rather get tied to a tree and get butt fucked by a grizzly bear
evilunixuser1 4 months ago
Wow. Talk about the good stuff. The specs are low. If I were you, I would just stick with windows. I bet FreeBSD will make you cry and jiggle very very much.
MrIntosh 5 months ago
@Hax0rPr0n so, you know, i was /just/ wondering... how THE FUCK DO YOU GET HACKED IN ONE MINUTE
TELL ME ***EXACTLY*** WHAT YOU DO TO CAUSE THAT ---- b/c ive NEVER GOTTEN HACKED
well except the time i put up my teamviewer id and pw on full access haha
but other than that ----- well they deleted my Downloads , pics, and music but i had backups of music
and i searched the DL folder with recuva and didnt see any thing i needed so i was good
but OTHER THAN THAT i have NEVER been hacked
timpster93 6 months ago
I installed FreeBSD today... First time with this OS. I just learned about ports, and decided to install X and Gnome using them. So If you have any problems with your reality today, please don't worry, it's only me re-compiling the entire universe. Normality will be restored... eventually.
Spoif 7 months ago
@Hax0rPr0n Who really does that, anyway?
CabbageNappa 10 months ago
Are you living in your moms basement?
I see pipes and insulation on the ceiling
GreenMeanie101 11 months ago 2
@GreenMeanie101 I was about to ask the same thing. I guess that answers the question as to whether or not FreeBSD is for him.
tightlypackedcoil 8 months ago
You should be in the Weird Al Yankovic Music Video "White And Nerdy".
The1ryan231 11 months ago
If you are trying to make BSD look good, you are failing hard.
People will see your greasy neck, filthy glasses and bad haircut and will run Microsofts way, screaming in pure terror.
lesleyhenriquez 1 year ago 3
I tried to use FreeBSD. I am clever, but I could not even get X running. I was hoping to run Sawfish and Rox-filer, but I failed. I wish that it were a bit easier to configure, but I definitely agree with the philosophy behind FreeBSD. I guess I just wish I were swell enough to work with it.
JuniperSprouts 1 year ago
PC-BSD for the desktop; ftw
Datzfunk 1 year ago
I have two questions.
1) Could i install freebsd & run Windows 7 or XP/Vista from inside a virtual box?
2) Could the same be done with MAC OS X? I've tried hackint0sh on this PC & it boots in fine.
Scientologists4Angle 1 year ago
@Scientologists4Angle Yes to all.
arsshaw 8 months ago
In my experience, both linux and FreeBSD do pretty much the same things, only with varying quality and work. The biggest difference is in how it's done.
CabbageNappa 1 year ago
PC-BSD 8.1 Released
migxp1 1 year ago
I'm a linux user personally, didn't like freeBSD that much. Could just be what I'm used to.
spikespeigel 1 year ago
prefer FreeBSD. its rock solid literally. FreeBSD is not ubuntu if you dont like BSD then DO NOT use it and DO NOT expect people to dumb it down for you because that is not happening go ruin someone elses project. theres a reason why the openbsd gnome guy got torn to shreds...
zequelll 1 year ago
Why not just use OpenSolaris, or Linux for Desktop...
maw88ify 1 year ago
@maw88ify I don't know- why not?
CabbageNappa 10 months ago
You Should Know More from Linux BEfore going To FreeBsd
ChildAdvent987 1 year ago
@ChildAdvent987 NOt really, BSD is pretty easy to figure out, otherwise just use PCBSD.
dmspar70 1 year ago
What about Linux gaming through binary compatibility?
Eldanen 1 year ago
we need flash :) vm linux guest for now.
DKlordraptor 2 years ago
@DKlordraptor linux mint 9 has flash and java installed right off the bat.
hippyslovepot 1 year ago
Hey, JROCK20041, what do you think about the differencies between FreeBSD and MacOSX's Darwin which was built on top of FBSD? do you find it faster, cleaner or the opposite?
Regards
usresidentsarestupid 2 years ago
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this guy is a faggot
RenegadeFury 2 years ago
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who cares? are you fucking dumb or something? why should anyone care for his sexual orientation? do YOU care? are YOU a FAGGOT? people like you make internet a very childish place. No reasonable arguments, just stupid "he's a fag".
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gtfo nigger faggot
RenegadeFury 2 years ago
dude theres black people then theres niggers niggers being gangsters then theres the reputable black man (Y) im white btw
chaz9123 2 years ago
I have nothing against niggers or faggot, so I won't bash you for that, kid.
usresidentsarestupid 2 years ago
@usresidentsarestupid
I have nothing against niggers or faggot, so I won't bash you for that, kid.
what was this all about man come on
timpster93 6 months ago
@timpster93 if you didn't, you wouldn't use that sort of language. no reason to hide, it's not like anyone's buying what your selling.
WinterXL 4 months ago
... 8l
Warkid1993 2 years ago
negro please
RenegadeFury 2 years ago
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free BSD sucks for new desktop user .
cobrafazea 2 years ago
wrong :)
FreeBSD is doing just fine, being a new desktop user, that sucks.
signa111 2 years ago
I don't think windows users could use freebsd for the first time as a desktop ( set-up a DE and stuff like that ...only if they want to read more documents ) ....i would say DesktopBSD( freeBSD with a KDE ) for new BSD comers .
cobrafazea 2 years ago
why would you care about windows users not being able to use a computer running a unix-like OS anyway?
people trying a new to 'adopt' any bsd OS should start with the command line and learn about everything there is with it, then move on using x and whatever window manager if they absolutely need to use one so in the case that they don't know what to do with the GUI, they could just pop a terminal work from there.
if someone doesn't learn the commands and uses only the GUI, imo, he is retarded
m1dget 2 years ago
if u think freebsd sux for newbie windows idiots try pc-bsd
ww w. pc-bsd . org
mptrax 2 years ago
I'm planning to use FreeBSD to make a dedicated server to host a WoW private server.
Drakgamereviews 3 years ago
I have noticed a lot of mud-slinging here at the FreeBSD project. As an entirely volunteer-driven project we need to be thankful that it exists and gives us a choice. For those that talk about Linux's desktop strengths, remember that but for software from proprietory vendors, linux would have done no better. Companies like IBM, HP and Oracle are contributing to LInux to promote their own middleware and hardware.
VMS and iOS are not exactly desktop OSes, but are untouchable in the server space.
magma80 3 years ago
Ports is great. The thing that makes it a bit difficult to argue for bsd on the desktop is the fact that theres gentoo. I think most of the time you are just going to have a better experience on gentoo simply because of hardware compatibility and amount of software ported for the system. Linux makes a fantastic server too, so I'm kind of wondering where bsd has the advantage even in the server world.
Ormaaj 3 years ago
Gentoo has only recently seen progressive activity. You talk about linux being a fantastic choice for a server, but is this true of Gentoo? Many sysadmins have an issue with FreeBSD in that it is constantly evolving and needs to be updated ideally using ports in which case you need to compile changes. Debian's/Centos' method of tracking binary updates seems to be the prefered solution.
For serious server deployments Solaris, Stratus VOS, Tandem & iOS still seem to be the platforms of choice.
magma80 3 years ago
Is there anything wrong with linux on a serious server? Everything is ported to it, its stable, etc. At their core the distro doesn't really matter. Gentoo is nice just because it automates so much. If you have access to any fast computer, compiling is no problem, especially since you can chroot to your server over nfs and compile using external resources.
I can't speak for bsd as I don't use it, I just know linux is pleanty robust for the job.
Ormaaj 3 years ago
Ormaaj
I do not know what kind of servers you talk about. I worked as a sysadmin for a leading bank. So far as my experience goes, there are two factors that determine the platform of choice: Applications and Support. Both of these should give the highest benefit to the company.
In the case of running databases, Oracle runs only on RH, Suse and Oracle EL.
Also in some cases, features matter. Most stock exchanges use VMS, NSK or VOS to run the trading. Maybe you are talking about webhosting.bye
magma80 3 years ago
Oracle is piece of shit DB (i've dealt with it) lots of banks now days use their very own very custom DB. Red Hat has totally piece of shit support and very expensive(I've dealt with it) and distro itself is a piece of shit itself. In 2001 RHEL was THE leader, but then many people noticed its "shitness" and moved away from it. What is it about FreeBSD that makes it best for servers? THE LOGIC! THE CLEAN CODE! Very clean and neat os. Heck, I used to be mega linux fan until I tried FreeBSD...
analogfantasy 2 years ago
can i setup freebsd to watch p0rn too? is it hard?
cfgauss 3 years ago 2
Thats a good question:) Long time ago I showed Novell Netware 5 to my friend he said "you can't even watch porn on it! What kind of OS is that?":))
analogfantasy 2 years ago 2
@cfgauss: You can do a lot more than that. You could program a webcrawler to find only the type of porn you like and store it in a specific directory. Then setup FreeBSD to be an FTP server so you share your porn with everyone!
LTS1287 1 year ago
@cfgauss
yes very hard.
MrTabby5000 1 year ago
if you start using freebsd buttu head I will stop using it
darkshadow3x 3 years ago
nerds
rugersribshack 3 years ago
LOL. You looks exactly like the NUMA NUMA guy.
alanot 3 years ago 9
FreeBSD :)
IvoStrato 3 years ago 3
What is your favorite OS ?
boringbugz 3 years ago
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VISTA
bbaction101 3 years ago
You are so stupid
IvoStrato 3 years ago
alright sounds good, I need several IPs to DL many Files at the same time this means i need several OS`s. well see if I can do this with freeBSD. Thanx for review
9578755 3 years ago
FreeBSD used to be good, and for some things it is still good. But the devfs file system which means I can no longer simply create a new /dev/null somewhere without using devfs is a pain in the arse. And X windows is now 250 or so packages rather than about 10. This is ridiculous.
fremlinskent 3 years ago
I like *BSD more, but there are certain games I play that only have a linux binary, and they aren't open source games either :(
rauron9 3 years ago
You can compile most programs that run on Linux on FreeBSD, too. Also many Linux applications will run on FreeBSD using a compatibility layer.
And there are some quite good open source games, but of course they are rare.
DrDaxxy 3 years ago
I might switch to freeBSD if penumbra will run on it. I'm kinda satisfied with gentoo ATM though.
rauron9 3 years ago
I was checking out the ports section of FreeBSD's website and was surprised they had proprietary programs like Skype and all the multimedia codecs.
In Xubuntu you have to switch from the American software repository to the main one if you want to gain access to all the codecs and whatnot.
BWF89 3 years ago
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get Linux Mint then.. when u go deep inside FreeBSD, soon or later you'll realize that it sucks
13thpersoncomedy 3 years ago
linux mint is taken from ubuntu so if your going to use anything go with ubuntu. Also mint has extra security to keep the user out of things and thats not cool.
latticelinux 3 years ago
ok 10x 4 the info it was ... usefull ... salut!
DacXIXVerde 3 years ago
oh ok gui wimps dont like freebsd
chickenjoymanok 3 years ago
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I've just installed freebsd version 7 in virtual box 1.6.2. Compared to Ubuntu JOES -it is very much lacking in feature. free bsd is showing it age. I believe the IT field is moving towards linux. bottom line I don't like freebsd.
ipponsuki 3 years ago
like I said in video FreeBSD is more server based rather than desktop. You can use it for desktop but you cannot beat it for server
JROCK20041 3 years ago
research ubuntu Joes - it is a slim os for virtual server. I have it as a LAMP server, I will try postregsql when I set up my next virtual server.
yes linux is beating the pants off freebsd. over 85% of the world fastest computer runs linux. sorry that just the facts.
ipponsuki 3 years ago
I need to make a correction. ubuntu JEOS just enough operation system.
ipponsuki 3 years ago
ippon,
The only reason Linux is gaining share is due to third party applications - Oracle, BEA, Webshpere, EMC...
I would like to compare equals with equals. To be fair, you will need to compare FreeBSD with a similar distro. Generalising any advantages that a specific distro may enjoy over BSD to all linux distros is deluding.
How many companies use Ubunti Jeos in a production environment?
magma80 3 years ago
magma80.
I was just pointing out; that the majority use of linux is servers. that all.
as for as ubuntu JEOS that was developed last year - so it fairly new.
ipponsuki 3 years ago
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Debian servers are better, even though the desktop aint that convincing, linux mint is for desktop! give it a try :)
13thpersoncomedy 3 years ago
I like FBSD, and while there are many applications for it, it still is lacking in apps. CAD packages are lacking: 2D drafting and 3d modeling. Flash ain't working. Can't be on youtube. It's ok for a desktop. I like compiling all of the stuff for my machine. I have not tried linux for a long time. thinking about it. When I tried it before it took up more than one primary partition, but I was inexperienced at that time. Maybe ubuntu??
StrangeToMe 3 years ago
I agree. Linux also has a much larger community and user base which makes it more suitable for beginners.
Vaiya 3 years ago
freebsd is for you if you wanna run a server machine! otherwise you will only get pain in your ass. as an alternative try ubuntu, if you don't like windows of course.
opendebate 3 years ago
hmm, i tried installing freebsd, it seemed to have less ability at hardware recognition. i like ubuntu, but it seems to lack the reason i'd use something other than windows (which i dislike). but, if there was a distrobution that i'd replace crappy windows, ubuntu would be it. that or gentoo. ubuntu is just a joy to use. but like windows, it gets old fast, because it does nearly everything for you. whenever i can get freebsd running i'd be much happier.
mistereveready 3 years ago
If Windows works, don't switch. If you aren't happy, THEN start looking at alternatives.
DarbySniper 3 years ago
I don't agree, even if happy with windows, freebsd, minix, and linux are all great options to just try. but its definitely not for people who don't back up their data, and are afraid of reformatting. but trying them is a good idea. especially for people who may like windows, but didn't know about how the others work. especially with the lack of big brother activities.
mistereveready 3 years ago
There are preinstalled laptops/normal computers with Linux! no need to reformatting and ** (note: Wubi, windows-based installer for Ubuntu) doesn't requier a different partition..etc
13thpersoncomedy 3 years ago
Well the one in vid description I removed cause that did change. The other link does not exist anymore cause server is down.
JROCK20041 3 years ago
You actually don't, both links down :D
AppA 3 years ago
what links are you talking about?
JROCK20041 3 years ago
I believe there was a link shown in the vid description, and there's another reference to a link from 03:00.
But sadly, I tried both of them and they didn't quite gave a response :P
AppA 3 years ago
@AppA Those files could be uploaded to HotFile, filefactory, Megaupload or rapidshare so easy.
Scientologists4Angle 1 year ago