DON'T GO TO LAW SCHOOL because it is a severely over-glutted and miserable field and a great many JDs are unemployed or underemployed-involuntarily-out-of-field. If you are seriously considering law school, you owe it to yourself to conduct large amounts of research before you ruin your life with huge amounts of student loan debt. Seek out the law school scambusting blogs such as the ones at Blogspot: JDScam, FlusterCucked, LawSchoolScam and search for the JD Underground discussion forum.
So, Penny, a penny for your thoughts. How did things turn out? Were you able to find an entry-level job in the legal profession and do you foresee yourself earning a worthy return on your law school investment? What happened to other graduates/3Ls in your class? Were they able to find jobs?
DON'T GO TO LAW SCHOOL because it is a severely over-glutted and miserable field and a great many JDs are unemployed or underemployed-involuntarily-out-of-field. If you are seriously considering law school, you owe it to yourself to conduct large amounts of research before you ruin your life with huge amounts of student loan debt. Seek out the law school scambusting blogs such as the ones at Blogspot: JDScam, FlusterCucked, LawSchoolScam and search for the JD Underground discussion forum.
Solid advice. I'm a law school hopeful, and about to start the long study trek, so I find your affirmation of powerscore as a good prep book as yet another reason to invest in that company, which I'm about to do. The DVD Proctor seems neat too, especially since strident sounds tend to set my focus adrift when under duress. Assuming you're done with law school now (this vid is almost 4 years old), could you comment on your experience as a law student? Thank you much.
Congrats on getting in to law school :)! Your links are very helpful, although students have to be careful when taking PowerScore's Full-Length courses. Those can be counterproductive and a waste of time.
I'm going to take the LSAT in October. I'm not really into a "study course", I think that a person should study on their own. I got a lot of LSAT study books. What do you think? No study course or not?
Thanks Penny! I write my LSAT tomorrow morning so we'll see how it all turns out. I feel pretty confident about my ability and the time I took to really absorb the strategies of the LSAT. Your video was helpful and just boosted my confidence a bit more, so thank you for that!
The 35-minute timing portion of the LSAT is used as a psychological effect to get people to rush and get a ridiculously low score--( Hint: Don't fall victim to this "rushing" trap). The LSAT is actually an accuracy and efficiency test, so SLOWING DOWN on all the question types on all four sections is crucial to getting an exceptionally high score. Best of luck to all future test takers!
I hit a 171 and I watched this video during my 3-4 study period...it was a great help...Penny you should give us an update on your progress as a law student...oh and picking up hot chicks like Penny in the future motivated me to do well on the test.
P.S. I'm so sick of the liberal cry babies who complain about standardized testing...guess we should go by the grades of liberal professors to decide? Or maybe we can have an equal racial composition into each school..blah
how did you go from future law school hopeful to I did really well on the LSAT's and I did get get into law school? hmmm... I'm a great listner and I think that is the real key to being a great lawyer
@los2424 she may have financial issues or family issues to resolve.There is a fairly decent attrition rate if you look at the difference between how many accept an offer of admission and how many people actually show up to school. Just a thought.
You're awesome! Thanks for the info! You're the only one giving advice and opinion that is not a biased like those promoting the various LSAT prep companies! ahhh I have to start this year practicing once in a while and then intensely in the summer! By the way where did you get the Poerscore book? because it's not in stores in Canada, I don't know about US though do you know any stores that have it available, preferably in nyc? because my last resort is buying offline. Thanks!
i had an excellent teacher at kaplan, thanks michael but I also took it last year and he was horrible. Very egotistic.....so there is good/bad teachers, period.
What was your score please? If you don't want to share, could you at least say on a scale of 1 to 10, 10 being the absolute best of the best score you expected, and 1 being the worst score a monkey would do, what was your score?
hi penny, thanks for this informative video! It is great! Can you also please post your score? I mean was that 177+ or 170+ or waht was that exactly? Which school you got into? Please send me through message.
Great advice, Penny! Anyone prepping for the LSAT can check out my LSAT Blog at LSATBlog-dot-blogspot-dot-com for free LSAT tips and tricks, updated weekly.
While I appreciate you posting your first-hand advice, please take care in advising others. I'm a LSAT Prep Instructor for Kaplan--a "monkey", I believe you called us--and I have had well over 150 hugely successful students who saw great improvements after taking my class. Leave room for the fact that in this SKILLS BASED (not silly, but practical) exam, improvement is mostly governed by each individual and there are great things to be gained from a prep course...just something to keep in mind!
Blaming others for your failure to adequately prepare, however, is also silly. You will surely not succeed in law school, and life, with that attitude.
And to suggest that people only study for standardized tests in the United States is absurd.
By silly I assume you mean that it doesn't test legal ability. I agree. But I think this is even more reason to study. Don't let a silly, irrelevant test hold you back from your dreams of becoming a lawyer!
@APennyForUrThoughts hi penny, thanks for this informative video! It is great! Can you also please post your score? I mean was that 177+ or 170+ or waht was that exactly? Which school you got into? Please send me through message.
That is the great debate. If studying for a test that is designed to measure your aptitude for logic and to determine whether or not you are ready for law school increases your test scores, then what is the point of the test?
During my interviews for CU and USD I stated that I had passed the CPA exam without retaking any sections. I am convinced that this was the biggest factor in getting me into both schools. I had already taken and passed a test that is arguably harder then the bar exam.
@yawenalice You know Penny is right...one step at a time is the process to take towards this long road to "attorney land." I just thought I should provide awareness to those perspective future law school candidates about the level of difficulty the MBE questions and/or essay portions of the BAR could be relative to the information presented on the LSAT. I guess what I'm trying to state is that those who complained about how hard the LSAT is/was, just haven't seen anything HARD yet.
it is awesome that you got into law school and will be practicing law....i pray you never change you have such a delightful spirit....may the good Lord bless you always....
what was your score? when i first watched this i thought you said something about 160-something but i watched it about 2 times in a row and didnt catch the score you made
im in the 11th grade and i want to be a lawyer i just wanted to know what should i major in when i get into college? because there is no pre law courses
You can major in whatever and go to law school. What is advised, usually, is to major in English since you'll be reading and writing alot in law school. But i say to just pick an easy major so you can hold a strong GPA.
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Sounds great but I couldn't understand a word you said. I was too busy lusting over that curvy, nubile figure of yours. My imagination just ran wild and my foot fetish interfered with my listening. Thank God you're not an LSAT proctor (I would score 120 with you in the room). BTW, I'm also impressed by those amazing reflexes of yours.
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I would say something more like different and pleasantly kinky... And, if you're mandating only certain comments to your videos then maybe you shouldn't post yourself throughout the internet? In my own way, I complemented you; your response is hostile & totally unwarranted. You could have just not responded but I guess you're too belligerent.
Are you retarded? I didn't post this video. I'm someone who happened to see your comment and thought I should tell you what a creep you are, if you didn't know. There's obviously something really wrong with you and you lack some basic human interaction skills. I feel grossed out even communicating with you. Goodbye.
Lack of "lack of interaction skills"? Are your stupid, UNSOLICITED comments any better? I thought you were the person who posted the video. You're just a moron who can't mind their own fuckin' business. I would LOVE TO SHIT IN YOUR MOUTH. That is, after knocking your teeth out and having you suck me off. Next time MIND YOUR OWN FUCKING BUSINESS ASSHOLE! You really should be dead, you self-righteous bubble-brain.
You got mad at me for calling you a weirdo... but you reaffirmed how weird you are in your angry, vulgar, hateful rant. I wouldn't be surprised if you get arrested for being a sexual predator. Creep-o.
I can't figure out if you are a disgruntled lawyer who isn't happy with his salary or a disgruntled law school applicant who didn't get into the schools of his or her choice? If you aren't one of the above, then why are you watching and commenting on my video?
Penny, nice score. Would you mind telling me what you were scoring on your first few preptests? Also, I realize it's kind of personal, but I've read that IQ is strongly correlated to LSAT performance. So, what is your IQ?
Hey Penny! I have a quick question. I just recently decided that I want to attend law school when I'm finished with my undergrad and I graduate May 2010 so I'm going into my senior year. I obviously missed the June LSAT but I'm wondering if the Dec. LSAT would still work or look good for apply to LS for the Fall of 2010? Or should I attempt the Sept LSAT with lots of study and preperation. I just ask because I know people spend MONTHS studying and I'd only have about a month and a half. Thanks!
Unless you are an LSAT god you most likely will not be able to achieve your desired score with only a month and a half of preparation. This is why I would probably recommend taking the December LSAT. But study hard and take frequent diagnostics and see you can do. If you are not where you want to be come December, delaying law school one year would not be a bad idea at all. The only advantage taking the LSAT earlier would give you is an earlier application submission in the rolling admissions.
Thanks for the advice Penny! I am about 95% sure I'm just going to go for the December test (enless by some miracle I get a great score in the next couple weeks). But sorry to bother you again, just one last question and I'm done haha. Where would be able to get ahold of all the practice tests available? I know LSAC offers one free one and some books.There are some on amazon but those seem so old. Would there be a specific book or books of prep-tests you'd recommend getting? And again, thank you
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Penny, you did okay on the LSAT. I scored a 177 :P... I believe you failed to mention test day preperation. IE.) Breakfast, packing your ziplock bag, doing everything the prior night, sleeping. Congrats on your score! By the way, did you get into a T14? I'll be attending Cornell
Im taking the Lsat and was wondering how much time they give, how are seating arrangements and last are all the exams given that day the same for everyone or are they different for every person
Hey! Good advice, I'll definitely pick up the logic games book. What were you starting at when you first began your preparation? I'm hovering around 166 and would love to see a low 170's score myself.
Penny critiquing the LSAT DVD camera work....hilarious. Thanks for the advice, though. Good luck in Law School and don't let the "Kingsfield" Professors get you down...
Everything i studied before hand was pretty much useless when it came to the test. The test itself was more intense and in depth then what i assumed i had down to a science. I would freak out if i could accomplish pulling off a 171 on the lsat. congratulations penny!!!!!
If you're going to insult anyone, let's work on the grammar first. "Women" is plural form for woman and you put "A women." Using A is to imply singular form. "Thats" is suppose to have an apostrophe before the "s." But you were suppose to use "is" instead of "that's" to even make it grammatically correct.
You're just some punk 15 year old kid with a penis so tiny; youre capable of urinating on your own nuts.
penny thanks i going to take the lsat towards the end of the year ,soon as i get my b.a im going to get the bible logic book and the pro. cd thanks for your advice!!!!
My first diagnostic test was a 143. But my highest diagnostic was a 160. They typically hover around 155. Honestly, the actual LSAT could be 160 or 150. Is this normal?
Hey Penny quick question i'm a first yera college student in my second semester, my first semester I very well in but my second semester so far has been a bit rough (competitve classes) Im taking 2 science courses that are mandatory and science is not my thing so I wanted ot know if my GPA drops a couple points will that hurt my chances from going into law school?
Your LSAT score is weighted more heavily than your GPA.
Having said that, try to get the best GPA possible. If you foresee yourself not doing well in certain classes, seek extra help by talking to your professor or hiring a student tutor.
I also would like to know when you would suggest I should begin studying for the LSAT's. Im a first year college student and was wondering if starting ealry would be an advantage for me.
I think that most college students looking to attend law school immediately after college take their LSAT in the summer between Junior and Senior years. This enables them to retake in October and/or December if they need to.
Having said that, take the LSAT whenever you can devote enough time to studying and be absolutely ready. If this is sooner than later, there is nothing wrong with it. LSAT scores are good for 5 years I believe.
171!!! That's awesome. So far, on my prep test (I'm in the Princeton review) I got a 155. But, that was the first time I ever took an LSAT.
Anyway, if you don't mind me asking, what law school did you get accepted to w/ a 171? Also, what was your first LSAT score that you got on a prep test?
Just wondering what kind of increase other people saw when practicing for the LSAT. TIA!
Generally the with the newer LSATs, the games get easier but the args and reading comp get harder, but that's a huge generalization.
Like "Penny" I took a course (Princeton Review), and it only helped a little bit. If you have no trouble getting yourself to study (which is a MUST HAVE quality if you wanna do well in law school), don't waste your money on a prep course. Do what she says... Powerscore and LSAC PrepTests.
Also... LSAC sometimes "reuses" games by sticking new names on the variables. If you complete the LSAT SuperPrep book and all the LSAT PrepTests (and it's a good idea to do as many as possible, timed/untimed), you'll notice patterns and repeats between older and newer tests. Just expect to have generally easier games and harder RC and args.
Hi Penny, I am a prospective law student. Yet to take the LSAT. Can you please tell me how much time would one need to prepare for the test, especially if not planning to take any LSAT classes. Thanks.
I would recommend taking real prep tests periodically while you studying. If your score is not going up, then it is clear that you will need to devote more time to studying.
Your major has very little bearing on your admission to law school, so my advice to you is to not necessarily go the "pre-law route" and major in something 1) you love, 2) that could help you get a good job if you change your mind about law school.
Hey Penny, what was your undergrad major?? I am an English major and strongly considering going to law school. I was just curious if you were an English major as well and if you felt well prepared or not for applying to law school?
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DON'T GO TO LAW SCHOOL because it is a severely over-glutted and miserable field and a great many JDs are unemployed or underemployed-involuntarily-out-of-field. If you are seriously considering law school, you owe it to yourself to conduct large amounts of research before you ruin your life with huge amounts of student loan debt. Seek out the law school scambusting blogs such as the ones at Blogspot: JDScam, FlusterCucked, LawSchoolScam and search for the JD Underground discussion forum.
JoblessJane 2 days ago
So, Penny, a penny for your thoughts. How did things turn out? Were you able to find an entry-level job in the legal profession and do you foresee yourself earning a worthy return on your law school investment? What happened to other graduates/3Ls in your class? Were they able to find jobs?
JoblessJane 2 days ago
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DON'T GO TO LAW SCHOOL because it is a severely over-glutted and miserable field and a great many JDs are unemployed or underemployed-involuntarily-out-of-field. If you are seriously considering law school, you owe it to yourself to conduct large amounts of research before you ruin your life with huge amounts of student loan debt. Seek out the law school scambusting blogs such as the ones at Blogspot: JDScam, FlusterCucked, LawSchoolScam and search for the JD Underground discussion forum.
JoblessJane 2 days ago
decent tit size. work that gut off though.
mikeyanagita1 2 weeks ago
Solid advice. I'm a law school hopeful, and about to start the long study trek, so I find your affirmation of powerscore as a good prep book as yet another reason to invest in that company, which I'm about to do. The DVD Proctor seems neat too, especially since strident sounds tend to set my focus adrift when under duress. Assuming you're done with law school now (this vid is almost 4 years old), could you comment on your experience as a law student? Thank you much.
Polymath95 1 month ago
Congrats on getting in to law school :)! Your links are very helpful, although students have to be careful when taking PowerScore's Full-Length courses. Those can be counterproductive and a waste of time.
heycaligirl 1 month ago
@blackphonetic1
LOL you must be a robocop fan
lavvy2585 9 months ago
Penny this is a very old video so can you tell us how you did on the LSAT and did you attend law school?
lavvy2585 9 months ago
I'm going to take the LSAT in October. I'm not really into a "study course", I think that a person should study on their own. I got a lot of LSAT study books. What do you think? No study course or not?
TheJoeyD27 10 months ago
My advice would be to start studying early.
Windinmysails71 10 months ago
Thanks for sharing your advice with others, Penny!
LSATBlog 1 year ago
You would be my weakness during my study sessions.
nwowars1 1 year ago
Thanks for posting this and all the best in law school!
Jeech100 1 year ago
penny, I want to ram your lsat all night long.
yourmain 1 year ago 3
She got either a 171 or a 179 (I forget exactly). She stated this in her text, but removed it a while ago.
brco2003 1 year ago
Thanks Penny! I write my LSAT tomorrow morning so we'll see how it all turns out. I feel pretty confident about my ability and the time I took to really absorb the strategies of the LSAT. Your video was helpful and just boosted my confidence a bit more, so thank you for that!
Brandoefd 1 year ago
I found this very to be very enlighting I wanted to know how many hours a day and how many days and how long had you been studying for the lsat?
EdeeWeedy 1 year ago
I want to penetrate you in your dorm room. Which school do you go to?
Thanks!
:)
EternalIntelligence 1 year ago 4
@EternalIntelligence Come on man... that one is way too creepy.
puntermaster 2 months ago
Penny, how many months did you spend studying?
vtoodler 1 year ago
hey, this is really helpful. When did you start studying for the LSATs . Im starting now and hopefull taking the feb test. is 3.5 months good enough?
lecker006 1 year ago
The 35-minute timing portion of the LSAT is used as a psychological effect to get people to rush and get a ridiculously low score--( Hint: Don't fall victim to this "rushing" trap). The LSAT is actually an accuracy and efficiency test, so SLOWING DOWN on all the question types on all four sections is crucial to getting an exceptionally high score. Best of luck to all future test takers!
marke8 1 year ago
hey penny, thanks for all the ideas. I have a couple questions.
1. Did you read the reading comp bible and logical reasoning bible? If so how were they?
2. What differences did you notice when you started with the old tests moving forward?
Thanks
-Ryan
ryan31088 1 year ago
I need help studying!
Philly2002 1 year ago
Thank you so much for the tips
supraking21 1 year ago
Are you going to give an update video on how well you did on the LSAT and what school you got into?
scrp2488 1 year ago
I hit a 171 and I watched this video during my 3-4 study period...it was a great help...Penny you should give us an update on your progress as a law student...oh and picking up hot chicks like Penny in the future motivated me to do well on the test.
P.S. I'm so sick of the liberal cry babies who complain about standardized testing...guess we should go by the grades of liberal professors to decide? Or maybe we can have an equal racial composition into each school..blah
Snake180666 1 year ago 2
no offense to any monkeys lol
captainlcm 1 year ago
how did you go from future law school hopeful to I did really well on the LSAT's and I did get get into law school? hmmm... I'm a great listner and I think that is the real key to being a great lawyer
los2424 1 year ago
@los2424 she may have financial issues or family issues to resolve.There is a fairly decent attrition rate if you look at the difference between how many accept an offer of admission and how many people actually show up to school. Just a thought.
ndividuall 1 year ago
This video is from two years ago, I wonder how she did and what law school she got into
bte320 1 year ago
Oh and by the way, how long did you study for the LSAT?
90mloda 1 year ago
You're awesome! Thanks for the info! You're the only one giving advice and opinion that is not a biased like those promoting the various LSAT prep companies! ahhh I have to start this year practicing once in a while and then intensely in the summer! By the way where did you get the Poerscore book? because it's not in stores in Canada, I don't know about US though do you know any stores that have it available, preferably in nyc? because my last resort is buying offline. Thanks!
90mloda 1 year ago
Thanks fo r the advice. :)
Karzaveer 1 year ago
"I didn't know what to do..." typical blonde...
FengNing85 1 year ago
i had an excellent teacher at kaplan, thanks michael but I also took it last year and he was horrible. Very egotistic.....so there is good/bad teachers, period.
TheJeffhero 1 year ago
What was your score please? If you don't want to share, could you at least say on a scale of 1 to 10, 10 being the absolute best of the best score you expected, and 1 being the worst score a monkey would do, what was your score?
dmed312 1 year ago
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Great Video!
If anyone's looking for good Prep Books
here is a list of the most helpful ones I recommend
lsatguru.blogspot.com/2010/05/6-essential-prep-books.html
omissshell 1 year ago
You are going to go far!!! :)
twitstixify 1 year ago
Thanks for the advice princess.
ezln12 1 year ago
Please don't spam my video! Thanks to everyone else for their comments.
APennyForUrThoughts 1 year ago
@APennyForUrThoughts Penny you're so hot
EternalIntelligence 1 year ago 3
hi penny, thanks for this informative video! It is great! Can you also please post your score? I mean was that 177+ or 170+ or waht was that exactly? Which school you got into? Please send me through message.
vivecan2005 1 year ago
thank you for this video!
BanksBitch 1 year ago
Ilkkavu just got straight up lawyered.
Thanks for the advice, I'll check out the links.
NyloStar 1 year ago
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Great advice, Penny! Anyone prepping for the LSAT can check out my LSAT Blog at LSATBlog-dot-blogspot-dot-com for free LSAT tips and tricks, updated weekly.
ManhattanLSAT 1 year ago
single? :)
PuttPunjabi123 1 year ago
Thanks for that LSAT proctor idea! and also congrats on being accepted (although now your probably well into law school).
Cheers!
SoulbringerWoWFFXI 1 year ago
While I appreciate you posting your first-hand advice, please take care in advising others. I'm a LSAT Prep Instructor for Kaplan--a "monkey", I believe you called us--and I have had well over 150 hugely successful students who saw great improvements after taking my class. Leave room for the fact that in this SKILLS BASED (not silly, but practical) exam, improvement is mostly governed by each individual and there are great things to be gained from a prep course...just something to keep in mind!
caitsies06 1 year ago
hmmmmm chocolate ice cream ;) thanks for the post qt. ciao! wow, nice catch on the "bible"!!!!
humbledrumah 1 year ago
it's a silly test.
everybody studying like a madman for this test and making it harder for others to get a great score on the test.
that's what standardized testing means.
only in america.
ilkkavu 1 year ago
I agree that it's a silly test.
Blaming others for your failure to adequately prepare, however, is also silly. You will surely not succeed in law school, and life, with that attitude.
And to suggest that people only study for standardized tests in the United States is absurd.
By silly I assume you mean that it doesn't test legal ability. I agree. But I think this is even more reason to study. Don't let a silly, irrelevant test hold you back from your dreams of becoming a lawyer!
APennyForUrThoughts 1 year ago 12
@APennyForUrThoughts yes, in fact in my country many tests are also standardized, but they measure certain areas of study like math or chemistry.
LSAT is an IQ-test in disguise. what other country has this kind of tests?
succeeding in life is a different thing than succeeding in law school. succeeding in law school obviously involves making other people look bad. :D
ilkkavu 1 year ago
actually, i'd argue that the analytical and reading skills necessary for success on the lsat are pretty relevant.
plus, logic games are fun.
callmenaomi 1 year ago
@APennyForUrThoughts
I just ordered that LSAT Proctor DVD along with other test prep materials. Thanks for your advice! =]
loakman 1 year ago
@APennyForUrThoughts hi penny, thanks for this informative video! It is great! Can you also please post your score? I mean was that 177+ or 170+ or waht was that exactly? Which school you got into? Please send me through message.
vivecan2005 1 year ago
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puntermaster 2 months ago
@ilkkavu It's in Canada too :( We have the same test as those in America!
90mloda 1 year ago
That is the great debate. If studying for a test that is designed to measure your aptitude for logic and to determine whether or not you are ready for law school increases your test scores, then what is the point of the test?
During my interviews for CU and USD I stated that I had passed the CPA exam without retaking any sections. I am convinced that this was the biggest factor in getting me into both schools. I had already taken and passed a test that is arguably harder then the bar exam.
PremiumWater 1 year ago
lol what a statement by @ilkkavu "all the people trying so hard are making even harder for dumbasses like myself!"
Yeah I hate it when the smart people fuck up the curve, why can't they just be stupid like the antisemitic dickhead above!
flpackerfan 9 months ago
@flpackerfan LOL, I'm not antisemitic and I do pretty well on these kind of tests. I admit my comment from a year ago is stupid. xD
It's just funny when you score high on that kind of test. You can celebrate other people's stupidity!
ilkkavu 9 months ago
@ilkkavu
this is one of the most retarded comments I've ever seen
mikeyanagita1 2 weeks ago
@mikeyanagita1 LOL
ilkkavu 2 weeks ago
be my study buddy :)
vulevulard 1 year ago
Great video, makes me feel better about my studying :)
runner175 1 year ago
managed to get a 179 on mine
blah1988 1 year ago
Good gouge...congrats on Law School. My god, you're gorgeous! Sorry, couldn't help myself :)
smithcj97 1 year ago
Are you in Law School now? If so, how is it?
HVACSoldier 1 year ago
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marke8 2 years ago
One step at a time!
APennyForUrThoughts 2 years ago
@marke8
California Bar? I think that Concord Law School is part of the Bar but Ca. is not accredited by the ABA so you can only practice in CA. True>?
Because I do want to go to Concord law which is online.
finemofok 1 year ago
@marke8 Well... yeah. The LSAT is for before law school, and the Bar is for after law school. Of course it's harder.
yawenalice 1 year ago
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marke8 1 year ago
@yawenalice You know Penny is right...one step at a time is the process to take towards this long road to "attorney land." I just thought I should provide awareness to those perspective future law school candidates about the level of difficulty the MBE questions and/or essay portions of the BAR could be relative to the information presented on the LSAT. I guess what I'm trying to state is that those who complained about how hard the LSAT is/was, just haven't seen anything HARD yet.
marke8 1 year ago
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marke8 1 year ago
Anyone know where I can buy Simugator or LSAT Proctor in stores?
ladylawschool 2 years ago
Only available through their website or amazon I believe
APennyForUrThoughts 2 years ago
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ladylawschool 2 years ago
Thank you very much for these tips. Much appreciated.
DucatiPaso750 2 years ago
"My goodness!"
ostrow85 2 years ago
Kaplan gives poor advice.
ostrow85 2 years ago
Congratulations! Thanks for sharing your trials and tribulations. Best of luck to you in law school.
leenasdad 2 years ago
it is awesome that you got into law school and will be practicing law....i pray you never change you have such a delightful spirit....may the good Lord bless you always....
Lamulatabonita 2 years ago
penny i want to slam it into you
ebencurtis 2 years ago 39
@ebencurtis shes going to sue you for sevual harrassment lol
traysmith1992 1 year ago
@ebencurtis shes got a lil cushion for the pushin for ya too
kgd91589 1 year ago
Wow you're hot.
dogbluerocky 2 years ago 23
@dogbluerocky I'm gay...but she makes me question my sexuality haha
travisnordgaard 6 months ago
Just ordered the Powerscore books and SimuGator DVD
newyorktimes07 2 years ago
what was your score? when i first watched this i thought you said something about 160-something but i watched it about 2 times in a row and didnt catch the score you made
traysmith1992 2 years ago
That's what she said!
goodlife430 2 years ago
that chick is going to be a hot lawyer
guyricco 2 years ago 3
im in the 11th grade and i want to be a lawyer i just wanted to know what should i major in when i get into college? because there is no pre law courses
tuyurri 2 years ago
political science is good, or classics
burtonfan101 2 years ago
You can major in whatever and go to law school. What is advised, usually, is to major in English since you'll be reading and writing alot in law school. But i say to just pick an easy major so you can hold a strong GPA.
sigepbrian 2 years ago
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elliotmin 2 years ago
both the LSAT Proctor DVD and Powerscore Bibles are great, thanks for the recommendation!
ofyouithink 2 years ago
Thanks for the advice, I have 27 days left.
RowBadMovies 2 years ago
Anybody getting sort of a pre-rape feeling from Brockshelgren?
Dubyk871 2 years ago
aww thanks
hepner 2 years ago
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Sounds great but I couldn't understand a word you said. I was too busy lusting over that curvy, nubile figure of yours. My imagination just ran wild and my foot fetish interfered with my listening. Thank God you're not an LSAT proctor (I would score 120 with you in the room). BTW, I'm also impressed by those amazing reflexes of yours.
brockshelgren 2 years ago
You're creepy and weird.
8394147 2 years ago
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I would say something more like different and pleasantly kinky... And, if you're mandating only certain comments to your videos then maybe you shouldn't post yourself throughout the internet? In my own way, I complemented you; your response is hostile & totally unwarranted. You could have just not responded but I guess you're too belligerent.
brockshelgren 2 years ago
Are you retarded? I didn't post this video. I'm someone who happened to see your comment and thought I should tell you what a creep you are, if you didn't know. There's obviously something really wrong with you and you lack some basic human interaction skills. I feel grossed out even communicating with you. Goodbye.
8394147 2 years ago
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Lack of "lack of interaction skills"? Are your stupid, UNSOLICITED comments any better? I thought you were the person who posted the video. You're just a moron who can't mind their own fuckin' business. I would LOVE TO SHIT IN YOUR MOUTH. That is, after knocking your teeth out and having you suck me off. Next time MIND YOUR OWN FUCKING BUSINESS ASSHOLE! You really should be dead, you self-righteous bubble-brain.
brockshelgren 2 years ago
You got mad at me for calling you a weirdo... but you reaffirmed how weird you are in your angry, vulgar, hateful rant. I wouldn't be surprised if you get arrested for being a sexual predator. Creep-o.
8394147 2 years ago
u r god for me,,thanx for posting,,msg u smtime
chahalvick 2 years ago
I rather be an unemployed lawyer than an employed doorman, but that is just my opinion. Thanks for the video, it is very helpful Penny.
TheJoeyD27 2 years ago
Amen
evrgreeneyes 2 years ago
@TheJoeyD27 Really? A doorman is a man with a job. There's no such thing as an "unemployed lawyer". You're just unemployed.
9262ABC 1 year ago
Lsat practical logic:
If the unemployment is at 30% in two years, then why blow 100k to be like 100 million others?
becoming a lawyer is about as lucrative as owning a time share.
our society awards peformance, NOT credentials
amotisi8859 2 years ago
I can't figure out if you are a disgruntled lawyer who isn't happy with his salary or a disgruntled law school applicant who didn't get into the schools of his or her choice? If you aren't one of the above, then why are you watching and commenting on my video?
APennyForUrThoughts 2 years ago
You type four lines in response some guy who clearly doesn't like you, and you can't answer my one simple question?
smashos85 2 years ago
He's probably the Kaplan teacher you just insulted.
smashos85 2 years ago
Penny, nice score. Would you mind telling me what you were scoring on your first few preptests? Also, I realize it's kind of personal, but I've read that IQ is strongly correlated to LSAT performance. So, what is your IQ?
smashos85 2 years ago
I've never taken an IQ test, sorry.
APennyForUrThoughts 2 years ago
How did you do on your first few preptests?
smashos85 2 years ago
Hey Penny! I have a quick question. I just recently decided that I want to attend law school when I'm finished with my undergrad and I graduate May 2010 so I'm going into my senior year. I obviously missed the June LSAT but I'm wondering if the Dec. LSAT would still work or look good for apply to LS for the Fall of 2010? Or should I attempt the Sept LSAT with lots of study and preperation. I just ask because I know people spend MONTHS studying and I'd only have about a month and a half. Thanks!
MidnightL0ve 2 years ago
Unless you are an LSAT god you most likely will not be able to achieve your desired score with only a month and a half of preparation. This is why I would probably recommend taking the December LSAT. But study hard and take frequent diagnostics and see you can do. If you are not where you want to be come December, delaying law school one year would not be a bad idea at all. The only advantage taking the LSAT earlier would give you is an earlier application submission in the rolling admissions.
APennyForUrThoughts 2 years ago
Thanks for the advice Penny! I am about 95% sure I'm just going to go for the December test (enless by some miracle I get a great score in the next couple weeks). But sorry to bother you again, just one last question and I'm done haha. Where would be able to get ahold of all the practice tests available? I know LSAC offers one free one and some books.There are some on amazon but those seem so old. Would there be a specific book or books of prep-tests you'd recommend getting? And again, thank you
MidnightL0ve 2 years ago
Geeze, I hope it's multiple choice.
allynbyrd 2 years ago
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Penny, you did okay on the LSAT. I scored a 177 :P... I believe you failed to mention test day preperation. IE.) Breakfast, packing your ziplock bag, doing everything the prior night, sleeping. Congrats on your score! By the way, did you get into a T14? I'll be attending Cornell
Dubyk871 2 years ago
Humble.
norcalrobbie2 2 years ago
Im taking the Lsat and was wondering how much time they give, how are seating arrangements and last are all the exams given that day the same for everyone or are they different for every person
cutler12345678 2 years ago
The sections are 35 minutes each, all the tests are the same, and they assign you to a room.
BTW... don't cheat on it.
norcalrobbie2 2 years ago
on the lsac. org website... why would you want to work your way up, instead of just taking the more current test?
LSUcHamp606 2 years ago
Hey! Good advice, I'll definitely pick up the logic games book. What were you starting at when you first began your preparation? I'm hovering around 166 and would love to see a low 170's score myself.
eastf8 2 years ago
wow, penny ur hot! I like the way ur boobes bounce towards end. oh yeah, thanks for sharing ur secrets to success
sambig9 2 years ago
Hey I saw your video and I just purchased the LSAT Proctor DVD. Now I am about to buy the POWERSCORE Logical Reasoning Bible.
Hopefully I get in the 160's
TNROLM 2 years ago
Penny critiquing the LSAT DVD camera work....hilarious. Thanks for the advice, though. Good luck in Law School and don't let the "Kingsfield" Professors get you down...
Watch The Paper Chase whenever you feel down.
BARCACROSSESTHEALPS 2 years ago
Everything i studied before hand was pretty much useless when it came to the test. The test itself was more intense and in depth then what i assumed i had down to a science. I would freak out if i could accomplish pulling off a 171 on the lsat. congratulations penny!!!!!
imagemakrz 2 years ago
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leave the lawyer jobs to the men honey !!
AppleFiend24 2 years ago
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A women being a lawyer thats a joke
stockmarketfreak 2 years ago
amen to that haha
AppleFiend24 2 years ago
you being likeable, that's a joke
michellen53 2 years ago
stockmarketfreak said:
"A women being a lawyer thats a joke"
If you're going to insult anyone, let's work on the grammar first. "Women" is plural form for woman and you put "A women." Using A is to imply singular form. "Thats" is suppose to have an apostrophe before the "s." But you were suppose to use "is" instead of "that's" to even make it grammatically correct.
You're just some punk 15 year old kid with a penis so tiny; youre capable of urinating on your own nuts.
nncool 2 years ago
Monkeys at Kaplan... haha
Jdeman 2 years ago 2
Good thing this girls hot, because otherwise she's extremely annoying
jrg881 2 years ago
Aw, you're so cute. Thanks for making this video! Congrats on your score and getting into law school! :)
doza1621 2 years ago
Thanks for the advice!!!!!! I'm so nervous for the LSAT
gatech2b 2 years ago
She should have done this video naked.
saltheshoe 2 years ago 13
penny thanks i going to take the lsat towards the end of the year ,soon as i get my b.a im going to get the bible logic book and the pro. cd thanks for your advice!!!!
asuarez9 2 years ago 2
tits out
ugged2k9 2 years ago 2
Oh, you look so sweet.
Good luck being taken serious in the field.
scienceisrocklol 2 years ago
ahahahaha... good old fashion sexism is what gets today's men on top of the corporate pyramid looking down on 1 female employee at a time.
BrianDesigns127 2 years ago
Thanks for the video, Penny! Logic Games are what's keeping me from 90% percentile. Good luck everyone!
AAD718 2 years ago
you are so adorable
Mavericlulu 2 years ago
I should've mentioned that my diagnostics are all over the place. One time my score was 158 and the very next time it was 150.
kirrabeachbum 2 years ago
I guess my question is whether the LSAT is like an IQ test, where no matter how much studying you do, you can't really get any higher, or not?
kirrabeachbum 2 years ago
My first diagnostic test was a 143. But my highest diagnostic was a 160. They typically hover around 155. Honestly, the actual LSAT could be 160 or 150. Is this normal?
kirrabeachbum 2 years ago
What was your lowest diagnostic test?
kirrabeachbum 2 years ago
thank you so much, that was very helpful
patriot2972 2 years ago
She is afraid someone would go a after her feet.
vratanca1 2 years ago
So where are you attending law school?
brucelee8l 2 years ago
APennyForUrThoughts (3 weeks ago)
I don't disclose where I go to law school... have to be safe on the internet, I hope you understand.
Thanks for the kind comments and good luck on your LSAT!
professersex 2 years ago
Hey Penny quick question i'm a first yera college student in my second semester, my first semester I very well in but my second semester so far has been a bit rough (competitve classes) Im taking 2 science courses that are mandatory and science is not my thing so I wanted ot know if my GPA drops a couple points will that hurt my chances from going into law school?
dman5b 2 years ago
Your LSAT score is weighted more heavily than your GPA.
Having said that, try to get the best GPA possible. If you foresee yourself not doing well in certain classes, seek extra help by talking to your professor or hiring a student tutor.
APennyForUrThoughts 2 years ago
I also would like to know when you would suggest I should begin studying for the LSAT's. Im a first year college student and was wondering if starting ealry would be an advantage for me.
dman5b 2 years ago
I think that most college students looking to attend law school immediately after college take their LSAT in the summer between Junior and Senior years. This enables them to retake in October and/or December if they need to.
Having said that, take the LSAT whenever you can devote enough time to studying and be absolutely ready. If this is sooner than later, there is nothing wrong with it. LSAT scores are good for 5 years I believe.
APennyForUrThoughts 2 years ago
Appreciate the advice.
171!!! That's awesome. So far, on my prep test (I'm in the Princeton review) I got a 155. But, that was the first time I ever took an LSAT.
Anyway, if you don't mind me asking, what law school did you get accepted to w/ a 171? Also, what was your first LSAT score that you got on a prep test?
Just wondering what kind of increase other people saw when practicing for the LSAT. TIA!
LSUcHamp606 2 years ago
Oh, and Penny...
one more question. In your opinion, are the more recent LSAT test more difficult than the older LSAT test? If so why?
TIA.
LSUcHamp606 2 years ago
Generally the with the newer LSATs, the games get easier but the args and reading comp get harder, but that's a huge generalization.
Like "Penny" I took a course (Princeton Review), and it only helped a little bit. If you have no trouble getting yourself to study (which is a MUST HAVE quality if you wanna do well in law school), don't waste your money on a prep course. Do what she says... Powerscore and LSAC PrepTests.
norcalrobbie2 2 years ago
Also... LSAC sometimes "reuses" games by sticking new names on the variables. If you complete the LSAT SuperPrep book and all the LSAT PrepTests (and it's a good idea to do as many as possible, timed/untimed), you'll notice patterns and repeats between older and newer tests. Just expect to have generally easier games and harder RC and args.
norcalrobbie2 2 years ago
Hi Penny, I am a prospective law student. Yet to take the LSAT. Can you please tell me how much time would one need to prepare for the test, especially if not planning to take any LSAT classes. Thanks.
neorationalist 2 years ago
This really varies with each individual.
I would recommend taking real prep tests periodically while you studying. If your score is not going up, then it is clear that you will need to devote more time to studying.
APennyForUrThoughts 2 years ago
I understand about Kaplan, got Bachelors from there but Masters program sucks. Cannot afford courses and have 4 books so now its up to me? LOL yikes
mtnmark8407 2 years ago
what was your undergrad in?
sageandmikel 2 years ago
History and Political Science double major.
Your major has very little bearing on your admission to law school, so my advice to you is to not necessarily go the "pre-law route" and major in something 1) you love, 2) that could help you get a good job if you change your mind about law school.
APennyForUrThoughts 2 years ago
Hey Penny, what was your undergrad major?? I am an English major and strongly considering going to law school. I was just curious if you were an English major as well and if you felt well prepared or not for applying to law school?
kmwagner23 2 years ago
You got a good score on the difficult test. May I ask which law school do attend?
poloalto 2 years ago
I don't disclose where I go to law school... have to be safe on the internet, I hope you understand.
Thanks for the kind comments and good luck on your LSAT!
APennyForUrThoughts 2 years ago
I understand. I thank you for sharing your experience.
poloalto 2 years ago
thanks for the advice penny. you're hot too lol.
shaunmacc24 2 years ago
penny you look young and cute
sfolksss 2 years ago
Thanks for the video. which law school did you go to at last?
xiahaung 3 years ago
Hey.
What was the law forum that you went to?
Thanks for the video btw. Good advice from a prospering student.
How many months in advance did you study and for how long?
BTW what did you get on your SAT's I wonder if your just a generally really smart person =D
krucus 3 years ago
Hey Penny, did you make law review?
cornbluff1 3 years ago