most of the participants confuse ethics with aesthetics. For each of the examples presented for which the majority have objections, a similar case can be found for which the majority would take the opposite decision. Our opinions are not determined by immutable principles but by an emotional relationship to each particular case.
i have a question about the majority/minority issue ...What if the majority is wrong(as it many times that's the case due to low inteligence due to lack of resources and bad envieroment) and the minority is right ... and im speaking right for any problem that occures ???
i wish it was a way to black out my comment on this vide to support the anti-internet canpaine but it not i'm really enjoying this lectures series it mey be for the last time?/??/
It is very evident how in the higher levels of education, religion becomes completely obsolete and irreverent, while ancient philosophical texts are more relevant than ever. No one in this audience dare to quote "god" as a solution to these philosophical dilemmas.
i know the spellchecker threw me a curve. and when i thought about irreverent it seemed to apply more. Religion is and would be disgusting and disrespectful to quote in such a place the reveres knowledge and wisdom. See..There is one quote in the bible that speaks truth. 1 Corinthians 1:22
"...for Jews pray for miracles and signs and Greeks seek knowledge and wisdom" Those were the two major differences between Greeks and jews. Harvard is along the Greek lines
In the case of the Ford Pinto, the cost allotted to life was truly only $11.00. If any person had been asked to pay $11.00 to insure safety, the $11 would have been paid. Knowledge of the possibility of great danger carries the $200,000 value and that reflects only corporate greed.
The first case is so FLAWED. Early death may mean those people will not get their pensions but think of all the tax they will pay on their bills if alive, the things they buy and their income tax! Even if they put a dollar value on life, they still benefit from healthy, non-smoking citizen's.
I'm just reminded of Dalai Lama honest laughter at the idea of "effective way to achieve enlightment". If you define utility the way Philip Morris or Ford did, the best way to achieve total happiness is to have everybody overdose heroin and die.
The wrong assumption here is that the cost-benefit analysis (or analysis in general) is a good tool for utility maximization. Inside views are generally wrong estimation tool, as somebody argued on Overcoming Bias. It's too easy to make a mistake, the analysis didn't take into account the risk of the trial and its effect on buyers. This would be one of the first things in the mind of somebody approaching the problem and not being psychopathic.
I think that no matter what, one group of humans should not put a value on a life where in a minority or a majority group because in essence what we are doing is trying to predict someones future and we have not that right. Its like trying to choose between two close boxes, one big and one small, we no not what they contain and unknown to us the big box contains a rock while the small box has a diamond. We know not what life hold for any of us.
Dude... why is this video constantly coming back on the main page?
Everyone knows that in the real world you have to put a price on life to an extent that varies from scenario to scenario. It is fact and reality can suck. Can we end this now?
the act of trying to put a price tag on human life cannot be successfully completed because it is not a quantifiable object.if it was, then the number would be subjective and would vary from person to person and would depend upon huge number of parameters.hence by extension it would be meaningless to assign a number to quantify a concept just for the sake of it.
John Mills is wrong. It's better to be a FOOL SATISFIED than to be SOCRATES DISSATISFIED. Consciousness can be a curse and hell on earth, 24/7. If the meaning of life is max. happiness, as Socrates, you are unhappy every day til your last days. I agree with Socrates's friend; the pursuit for philosophy is a dangerous path with no promise of reward. Not knowing and being happy is sometimes better.
So in the end it doesn't really suck much, unless you put yourself in a negative mind mentality twords life and what you make yourself experience during it.
"If you are a half-glass empty kinda guy, live a overall negative life and dwell on philosophy you are basically setting yourself up for a life of psychological torment." -Me
they say you have to taste two experiences to know what you preferer but what about the experience of death you can come back to say I'd like to be death. or can we?
@HeyDko cardiac arrest patients sometimes are pronounced dead after several minutes but then they wake up. i guess there are ways to experience death or test in social experiments via hypno where the conscious mind is not being biased.
The very notion of Bentham's theory of utility is based on a principle of pleasure versus pain. However, at the root of this theory, there are many cases in which pleasure actually produces pain and suffering. Take the use of drugs, alcohol, or even overactive sexual interaction; each of these produce high forms of pleasure in the form of endorphins in the brain, some of which are very addictive. Pleasure, in these cases, leads to pain and health issues that lead to death. Overall, a flawed idea
So, imagine Albert Einstein dies in a ford car accident. The world loses the theory of relativity and Ford Company saves a few bucks on safety devices. I believe the cost outweighs the profits, don't you?
You can not put a price tag on human's potential because in one accident we may lose a Hillbilly bum and in other a genius that would have invented a new source of energy if he had not died.
@1985simonsays maybe we should quantify human potential. haha. those the debate will be about how to do it. i have an answer. most ppl are not einstein so high probability its a hillbilly bum in the accident so there you go. however, if there is a chance its einstein, all bets are off.
But no human has the wisdom nor insight to know what the individual has in hold for him in the future because we are only human.... So all we can do is just do what is best for the majority for that is all we can do within our power.
I would offer customers a security upgrade of their car for a fine of 12 dollars. Ford would not take the risk of any moral entanglement and at the same time make some profit, that would be ultilitarism to me.
I find it disturbing that so many people who I have to believe are relatively intelligent having been accepted to this university, fail to come up with the obvious arguments excluding the rights of one person to arbitrate against another, and for individual rights and free will to be taken into consideration in the actions take against others... Clearly a class who avoided reading up on John Locke...
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@EntrE01 more than if he just rushed along, remember not all can pick up things quickly, so he has to go slow enough for the majority to pick up on it
@EntrE01 a lot of learning in university is done through people research, and a large amount of readings... basically what lecture serves is the ability to explain main points with examples...
@Viperstrike28 sure it is, but at a certain ratio of work-at-home vs. work-at-lectures. and if i take a look at this, then i must say that the lectures we have in biology are WAY larger than this and we still have even far more work to get done at home. so i still wonder how they move so slowly. i get the impression this is a rather easy course
@Inadvertens Well, I will in a private conversation if you seriously want me to.
I'm not here to preach anything, just shared my opinion but I see that your reply is focused only on "my God" ignoring my statements regardless the topic.
So, if you're not thinking about "throwing me to the lions" :) I would be glad to share things with you even about my faith.
You are right that god gave us the free gift of life and that it is wrong for man to put a price on it.
These unavoidable choices are a result of mans imperfection. Our corruption has forced us into corners where we are forced to make no win no win choices over no win no win scenarios. All we can do is use Cost-Benefit Analysis and just try to do what is best on worldly terms for that is all we can do in an imperfect world that rejects Christ.
2) If 'utility' is defined as the balance of pleasure over pain or happiness over suffering, then what ought we to think of those individuals (e.g. they who enjoy the practice of automutilation) as well as institutions (e.g. the bloody dictatorial regime of Charles Taylor in Liberia (its name once more so ironically in use)) to whom causing pain actually construes their pleasure? In which suffering is their happiness?
My own arguments against Bentham's utilitarian theory would be the following two:
1) Even if it is possible to measure all values and abstracts in bare money, which I tend to doubt greatly, there is absolutely no way for us to determine undisputedly what the greatest good would be. Take the shipwreck example: assumed the cabin boy is an orphan indeed and has no close family to mourn him, that does not exclude the possible existence of close friends or an older mentor whom we don't know of.
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My only quibble here is that, "Can you put a price tag on life?" can be answered, "Yes," without the need for anyone to give a definitive price, so simply brow-beating consequentialists because they don't have every fraction of a util figured out is a moot counter. Ignorance in the latter area has no bearing on the former.
e.g.
A: "Do you think that farmers should grow more domestic crops?"
B: "Yes."
A: "Ah, and where exactly should they grow those crops?"
why didnt ford raise the cost of car by 12 dollars then? it wouldnt be that much to not buy the car and he would still make extra 1 dollar on each sale and would keep a good image of the company :D
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request you to from the time ancient ,puranic times ,there may be mistakes of one or two persons .mistakes would have been due to bad wisedom ,bad thoughts or bad fate and were not born with enough fortunate with good qualities not to commit mistakes and sins which made sinner and sinner and could not come out of sins . due to that others also victims .at those times itself some wise peoples would have taken proper steps for betterment that mistakes should not be repeated .
Some of the students' answers makes me question how Havard chooses their students. Some people who are failing in my TOK class give better answers than them :3 Plutocracy at work here?
Value of life is only given by freedom, high pleasure cannot exist unless the latter is true. Therefore the freedom and the right for men to develop itself is the only conditional and premise for in which the regards of pleasure can be explained. Violate the one conditional in which the premise is set, high pleasure cannot exist.
@richardloveschrist how noble of you - to exploit suffering people. Telling them lies, that if they end up believing in them, will make them feel forever guilty for being human.
@tristbjorn He's not telling people lies - he's telling them the truth. Secondly, why would it be wrong in your naturalistic worldview to lie to people? Oh that's right... we've had this discussion before - and your argument got annihilated.
You've stuck to your good old atheistic, irrational ways even when you know they're wrong. Why can't you just accept the truth instead of choosing to live in a dream world in which you continually lie to yourself? Smarten up already.
@blowfish133 Even though dogmatic believers may believe in absolute morals, they can seldom agree or keep up with it. Any social being will have some morals for a society to arise.
Please show anything pointing to the brain being anything but chemical reactions.
I think the fundemental problem with the Ford Pinto case wasn't that they tried to assign a value to human life, it's that their cost/benefit ananlysis was unfair. The money that they lost to make the cars safe doesn't detract from the "greater good," it comes from their bottom line. That money belongs to them. The people that died are part of society. They are part of the greater good and are automatically more valuable than some companies profit.
@PowerPigify yeah i was wondering why nobody touched on that point. It is better for the "minority" (the company profits) to earn that money, not for society
@fuck192ass Mm, well, regardless of what you think, which I agree, you shouldn't be able to put a $ to human life, it is entirely possible and is used to the widest benefit to most companies and even the government itself.
hey guys! can anyone explain what this is ? a study lesson in psychology? are this guys harvard students? i would be very thankful, sry for my bad english
For the class to work you need to stick to a few choices...you are not being taught about justice or talking about humanitaris or utilitrianism...you are being inducted into accepting a few choices laid out in front of you by someone with control, power or authority...or all 3. Funny how NO ONE pointed that out...everybody is just there trying to get some acceptance from other people...
Isn't that the basis of a social contract? The foundation of a just society? We agree on what the external environment is, analyze available options, then choose whichever option best fits our own "moral compass". We then analyze the consequences, as well as the principles guiding our moral compasses to derive greater meaning about our experiences. That sounds like Justice in practice to me, viewed through the respective lens of utilitarianism, and categorical moral reasoning.
@thehornypuppy In the first episode one clever student spotted an option with the failing organ patients that hadn't been put on the table. His points illustrates both the need for an informed majority to be presented with an accurate picture of the environment and illustrates that the point of the exercise is reflection and improvement of our social tools, models, and understanding. It is not some pseudo-popularity acceptance fest for individual opinions
THIS HAPPENINGS IS TRUE, LIKE IN THE PHILIPPINES JUSTICE IS NOT PROPERLY SERVE OR HAVING LOOP HOLES,THIS LAWS MUST BE REWRITTEN AGAIN TO CORRECT MAKE IT STRAIGHT TO IMPLEMENT, LIKE IF YOU WANT TO GO OUT OF THE COUNTRY SEEKING FOR LIFE CURE, IS NOT PERMITTED, WHEN YOUR BEING IN THE SPOTLIGHT OF PEOPLE THAT ARE NEGATIVES, LOTS OF CASES ARE NOT PROPERLY HANDLED, WHO'S WINNING & LOSSING ? SUPREME COURT IS NOT SO STRICK TO IMPLEMENT & INFORCE THE LAW...IN THE PHILIPPINES...DILEMA MABUHAY KA...
THIS HAPPENINGS IS TRUE, LIKE IN THE PHILIPPINES JUSTICE IS NOT PROPERLY SERVE OR HAVING LOOP HOLES,THIS LAWS MUST BE REWRITTEN AGAIN TO CORRECT MAKE IT STRAIGHT TO IMPLEMENT, LIKE IF YOU WANT TO GO OUT OF THE COUNTRY SEEKING FOR LIFE CURE, IS NOT PERMITTED, WHEN YOUR BEING IN THE SPOTLIGHT OF PEOPLE THAT ARE NEGATIVES, LOTS OF CASES ARE NOT PROPERLY HANDLED, WHO'S WINNING & LOSSING ? SUPPREME COURT IS NOT SO STRICK TO IMPLEMENT & INFORCE THE LAW...IN THE PHILIPPINES...DILEMA MABUHAY KA...
Area 51 - May day - May 1st is when the U.S government furthers their agenda. And in '79 our military found and got in a skirmish with 7 foot grey aliens that have been encamped underground Dulce with their reptilian master's for years.- 66 green beret's and secret service agents lost their lives.
@GeordieeBoyy There's people like that in every college lecture. They feel the need to answer every question or ask their own stupid question just so the Prof. pays attention to them and they can boost their ego a little.
@MLDWoody and then there's the people who never participate for what ever reason (fear of being wrong, fear of attention, inability to form an answer), contributiong to a boring and disengaging learning environment.
LMFAO So companies and governments are using this guy?. Two reasons not to listen.
Anyway, did not the Elite actually create and promote Class Division? Could someone please remind me again what HARVARD attracts? But wanna hear a better one though? :) Ask the IRS, to show you where it says you have to pay income.
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Awesome job guys!Harvard!!?education??!thank you so much for giving us the opportunity to watch these courses and dwell on the discussed subjects.Greetings from greece.
If the elite who own the FED (private bank lowning money to govt) They own all the media too, so whats their agenda? to make more money? Really? They instigated a Deliberate Economic Collapse. Their corporations produce so much food and yet so many starve. Therefore the system aint working. They create the problem and provide supposed solutions through their media , to further their agenda.
get streetwise to this BS please!!! say no to this crap.
then calculate how many people you have killed in Iraq? and what is worth/value of these lives and how much oil by worth you held? and what you will be going to do by that theory?
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The day when people start to "Put a price tag on their own parents or children" thats the day I would even consider arguing to "utilitarian logic".......
Is the IVY League justice...?. Some more pesticide & genetically modified vegetables, oh... and a glass of flouride please! Yummy. Now i'm ignorant all over again. Nevermind, it tastes yummy. Lets see whats on FOX?!
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@richardloveschrist HOLY SHIT DUDE, Christ is inside you and transforming you?! HE'S AN ALIEN?! Fuck, I gotta tell people they have to stay away from Christ!
@richardloveschrist Dude, really ? Are you seriously on drugs? there is no way that you can act like that and be normal...I mean people in movies don't overact as much as you do.And how will you help "the people" who seek Christ and whatnot.And one last thing how do you know that all of this that you are speaking is even true? can you prove it somehow? or it is just there... silly people
lol how i love it when men try to twist a concept so that it fits and meets their own ends, for example ford only listed what would benefit and create gains for their own company or someone might say but they also benefited the government aka the people through increased tax revenue due to lack of expenditure on the shields. increased tax revenue would lead to more money spent on health, education, social development etc etc but how can you spend money on people who are dead lol
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@richardloveschrist Seriously why the heck are you even bothering writing all of this bullcrap on youtube no one really cares the only thing that might happen is someone flaming you either you're a psycho or you're trollin' so yeah dude just save your god nonesense and go post them elsewhere
Con respecto a ser educado para estar apto a vivir ciertos hechos de mejor manera, es completamente cierto. Pero si a ésta educación recibida no se la recrea, solo subjetivamente, ésta con el avance social se vuelve ya inutil.
most of the participants confuse ethics with aesthetics. For each of the examples presented for which the majority have objections, a similar case can be found for which the majority would take the opposite decision. Our opinions are not determined by immutable principles but by an emotional relationship to each particular case.
mixip1708 1 day ago
i have a question about the majority/minority issue ...What if the majority is wrong(as it many times that's the case due to low inteligence due to lack of resources and bad envieroment) and the minority is right ... and im speaking right for any problem that occures ???
onxiaftw 1 day ago in playlist Justice with Michael Sandel
Cool, now I can tell people I studied at Harvard.
Schnikerdoodle 6 days ago
who saw the guy sleeping in :55 gime a thumb up!
heitorpostai 1 week ago
wtf i just had to write
peacefulgod 1 week ago
i wish it was a way to black out my comment on this vide to support the anti-internet canpaine but it not i'm really enjoying this lectures series it mey be for the last time?/??/
peacefulgod 1 week ago
Unless you can use money to bring people back to life, you can't put a number on people's life.
ADLPVM 1 week ago
$700,000
kostasmouratidis 1 week ago
BANTAM LIVES !
GREEKFONTS 1 week ago
It is very evident how in the higher levels of education, religion becomes completely obsolete and irreverent, while ancient philosophical texts are more relevant than ever. No one in this audience dare to quote "god" as a solution to these philosophical dilemmas.
GREEKFONTS 1 week ago
@GREEKFONTS Depending on which "god" you're talking about, there's rarely any consistency in the creeds which spring from them.
BTW irreverent should be irrelevant
mikenbondi 1 week ago
@mikenbondi
i know the spellchecker threw me a curve. and when i thought about irreverent it seemed to apply more. Religion is and would be disgusting and disrespectful to quote in such a place the reveres knowledge and wisdom. See..There is one quote in the bible that speaks truth. 1 Corinthians 1:22
"...for Jews pray for miracles and signs and Greeks seek knowledge and wisdom" Those were the two major differences between Greeks and jews. Harvard is along the Greek lines
GREEKFONTS 1 week ago
@GREEKFONTS because in the higher levels of education, no one uses god as an easy escape route as an answer.
1934853 6 days ago
one little tow... haha
tanner9449 2 weeks ago
In the case of the Ford Pinto, the cost allotted to life was truly only $11.00. If any person had been asked to pay $11.00 to insure safety, the $11 would have been paid. Knowledge of the possibility of great danger carries the $200,000 value and that reflects only corporate greed.
HarbingerRook 2 weeks ago in playlist Justice with Michael Sandel
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gerarddanford 2 weeks ago
The first case is so FLAWED. Early death may mean those people will not get their pensions but think of all the tax they will pay on their bills if alive, the things they buy and their income tax! Even if they put a dollar value on life, they still benefit from healthy, non-smoking citizen's.
EnchancedHuman 3 weeks ago
I'm just reminded of Dalai Lama honest laughter at the idea of "effective way to achieve enlightment". If you define utility the way Philip Morris or Ford did, the best way to achieve total happiness is to have everybody overdose heroin and die.
addziu 3 weeks ago in playlist Justice with Michael Sandel
The wrong assumption here is that the cost-benefit analysis (or analysis in general) is a good tool for utility maximization. Inside views are generally wrong estimation tool, as somebody argued on Overcoming Bias. It's too easy to make a mistake, the analysis didn't take into account the risk of the trial and its effect on buyers. This would be one of the first things in the mind of somebody approaching the problem and not being psychopathic.
addziu 3 weeks ago in playlist Justice with Michael Sandel
If I was going to put a price tag on a human life as a utilitarian, I would do it like this:
Let P equal the price of human life
Let m equal the average of the money put back into the economy by a person
Let y equal the average life expectancy subtract the average age of the victim(s)
P = m(y)
RaineXHero 3 weeks ago
I think that no matter what, one group of humans should not put a value on a life where in a minority or a majority group because in essence what we are doing is trying to predict someones future and we have not that right. Its like trying to choose between two close boxes, one big and one small, we no not what they contain and unknown to us the big box contains a rock while the small box has a diamond. We know not what life hold for any of us.
kiapchild 3 weeks ago
Dude... why is this video constantly coming back on the main page?
Everyone knows that in the real world you have to put a price on life to an extent that varies from scenario to scenario. It is fact and reality can suck. Can we end this now?
Dan178000 3 weeks ago
the act of trying to put a price tag on human life cannot be successfully completed because it is not a quantifiable object.if it was, then the number would be subjective and would vary from person to person and would depend upon huge number of parameters.hence by extension it would be meaningless to assign a number to quantify a concept just for the sake of it.
rycoody 3 weeks ago
John Mills is wrong. It's better to be a FOOL SATISFIED than to be SOCRATES DISSATISFIED. Consciousness can be a curse and hell on earth, 24/7. If the meaning of life is max. happiness, as Socrates, you are unhappy every day til your last days. I agree with Socrates's friend; the pursuit for philosophy is a dangerous path with no promise of reward. Not knowing and being happy is sometimes better.
SpecialGuy21 3 weeks ago
@SpecialGuy21
You just get over it and live life happily.
So in the end it doesn't really suck much, unless you put yourself in a negative mind mentality twords life and what you make yourself experience during it.
"If you are a half-glass empty kinda guy, live a overall negative life and dwell on philosophy you are basically setting yourself up for a life of psychological torment." -Me
Dan178000 3 weeks ago
@SpecialGuy21 Depending on your age, experience, and circumstance both can be happiness. I seem to waver between the two.
spareaxe 3 weeks ago
they say you have to taste two experiences to know what you preferer but what about the experience of death you can come back to say I'd like to be death. or can we?
HeyDko 3 weeks ago
@HeyDko cardiac arrest patients sometimes are pronounced dead after several minutes but then they wake up. i guess there are ways to experience death or test in social experiments via hypno where the conscious mind is not being biased.
SpecialGuy21 3 weeks ago
The very notion of Bentham's theory of utility is based on a principle of pleasure versus pain. However, at the root of this theory, there are many cases in which pleasure actually produces pain and suffering. Take the use of drugs, alcohol, or even overactive sexual interaction; each of these produce high forms of pleasure in the form of endorphins in the brain, some of which are very addictive. Pleasure, in these cases, leads to pain and health issues that lead to death. Overall, a flawed idea
cstan007 4 weeks ago in playlist Justice with Michael Sandel
So, imagine Albert Einstein dies in a ford car accident. The world loses the theory of relativity and Ford Company saves a few bucks on safety devices. I believe the cost outweighs the profits, don't you?
You can not put a price tag on human's potential because in one accident we may lose a Hillbilly bum and in other a genius that would have invented a new source of energy if he had not died.
1985simonsays 4 weeks ago
@1985simonsays maybe we should quantify human potential. haha. those the debate will be about how to do it. i have an answer. most ppl are not einstein so high probability its a hillbilly bum in the accident so there you go. however, if there is a chance its einstein, all bets are off.
SpecialGuy21 3 weeks ago
@1985simonsays
But no human has the wisdom nor insight to know what the individual has in hold for him in the future because we are only human.... So all we can do is just do what is best for the majority for that is all we can do within our power.
Dan178000 3 weeks ago
Kid is trolled at 19:15, lol.
carlosleonardo88 1 month ago
I would offer customers a security upgrade of their car for a fine of 12 dollars. Ford would not take the risk of any moral entanglement and at the same time make some profit, that would be ultilitarism to me.
Badg000r 1 month ago
For the purposes of cost benefit analysis: life is priceless!!!!
a1949seeker 1 month ago in playlist Justice with Michael Sandel
Thank you.
shallowmic 1 month ago
I find it disturbing that so many people who I have to believe are relatively intelligent having been accepted to this university, fail to come up with the obvious arguments excluding the rights of one person to arbitrate against another, and for individual rights and free will to be taken into consideration in the actions take against others... Clearly a class who avoided reading up on John Locke...
Daharen 1 month ago
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downyourtube 1 month ago
they move on with their topics very slowly. if they keep this speed then i wonder how little the students have learned at the end of a semester
EntrE01 1 month ago
@EntrE01 more than if he just rushed along, remember not all can pick up things quickly, so he has to go slow enough for the majority to pick up on it
noobler9 1 month ago
@EntrE01 a lot of learning in university is done through people research, and a large amount of readings... basically what lecture serves is the ability to explain main points with examples...
Viperstrike28 1 month ago
@Viperstrike28 sure it is, but at a certain ratio of work-at-home vs. work-at-lectures. and if i take a look at this, then i must say that the lectures we have in biology are WAY larger than this and we still have even far more work to get done at home. so i still wonder how they move so slowly. i get the impression this is a rather easy course
EntrE01 1 month ago
was that harold from harold and kumar at 10:56?
daeva5 1 month ago in playlist Justice with Michael Sandel
@Inadvertens Well, I will in a private conversation if you seriously want me to.
I'm not here to preach anything, just shared my opinion but I see that your reply is focused only on "my God" ignoring my statements regardless the topic.
So, if you're not thinking about "throwing me to the lions" :) I would be glad to share things with you even about my faith.
Thank you for your answer.
1117aurora 1 month ago
Could the value of any art work be transformed into $ without any prejudice being brought to its actual value?
No. The same is with life.
God gave us life as a free gift because it is priceless.
If one does something out of love and the action is not appreciated with love, then one will say that "it isn't fair".
Love is the only measure which leads to righteousness, maximizing happiness.
So, the least significant object used out of love can gain an amazing value... and the diamonds are crushing.
1117aurora 1 month ago
@1117aurora First, give me evidence of your Gods existence and then quote me how he gave this greate gift to me.
Inadvertens 1 month ago
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Dan178000 3 weeks ago
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@1117aurora
You are right that god gave us the free gift of life and that it is wrong for man to put a price on it.
These unavoidable choices are a result of mans imperfection. Our corruption has forced us into corners where we are forced to make no win no win choices over no win no win scenarios. All we can do is use Cost-Benefit Analysis and just try to do what is best on worldly terms for that is all we can do in an imperfect world that rejects Christ.
Dan178000 3 weeks ago
2) If 'utility' is defined as the balance of pleasure over pain or happiness over suffering, then what ought we to think of those individuals (e.g. they who enjoy the practice of automutilation) as well as institutions (e.g. the bloody dictatorial regime of Charles Taylor in Liberia (its name once more so ironically in use)) to whom causing pain actually construes their pleasure? In which suffering is their happiness?
Cadalamenti 1 month ago
My own arguments against Bentham's utilitarian theory would be the following two:
1) Even if it is possible to measure all values and abstracts in bare money, which I tend to doubt greatly, there is absolutely no way for us to determine undisputedly what the greatest good would be. Take the shipwreck example: assumed the cabin boy is an orphan indeed and has no close family to mourn him, that does not exclude the possible existence of close friends or an older mentor whom we don't know of.
Cadalamenti 1 month ago
damn.. this is so addictive!. i just watched the first one and even though i don't have time for the second episode i cant resist but take a sneak peek :P
Meanbean1992 1 month ago
Hi,i'm from the czech republic,what is so bad in kansas?? I do not understand the connection..
TheJayHaupt 1 month ago
@TheJayHaupt At the time of the survey there was something called the dust bowl. Look it up on google.
frostedpornflakes 1 month ago
dont you know - fancy words - easy way to make a living. tell them strait =- you answer to Rome. And you dont ask how high.
emilee2u 1 month ago
i used to be a philospher like you, then i took an arrow in the knee...
rahrahrahrahrahrahra 1 month ago
Of course, we all know that your Strawman is worth 34 million $ to the Federal Reserve, so there is already a price on our heads.
SteppenWolfMindGame 2 months ago
When "will" the justice
ednkmdhu 2 months ago 2
My only quibble here is that, "Can you put a price tag on life?" can be answered, "Yes," without the need for anyone to give a definitive price, so simply brow-beating consequentialists because they don't have every fraction of a util figured out is a moot counter. Ignorance in the latter area has no bearing on the former.
e.g.
A: "Do you think that farmers should grow more domestic crops?"
B: "Yes."
A: "Ah, and where exactly should they grow those crops?"
theyangist 2 months ago
why didnt ford raise the cost of car by 12 dollars then? it wouldnt be that much to not buy the car and he would still make extra 1 dollar on each sale and would keep a good image of the company :D
TheButtonNose 2 months ago in playlist Justice with Michael Sandel
request you to request ---there should be not any hell under earth .if any punishment is given it should be given on the earth only .requests you , to request to any souls ,even any molecules should not be taken under earth , sevarages or any hell under earth , for punishment ,any sufferings ,or any kind of torturings .request you to come forward . so far what ever souls has been taken under earth and hells make to bring back on the earth even single molecule also.
bgupta2001 2 months ago
request you to from the time ancient ,puranic times ,there may be mistakes of one or two persons .mistakes would have been due to bad wisedom ,bad thoughts or bad fate and were not born with enough fortunate with good qualities not to commit mistakes and sins which made sinner and sinner and could not come out of sins . due to that others also victims .at those times itself some wise peoples would have taken proper steps for betterment that mistakes should not be repeated .
bgupta2001 2 months ago
i thought here would be a live mix of Justice ,_,
SimpsonFan82 2 months ago
Some of the students' answers makes me question how Havard chooses their students. Some people who are failing in my TOK class give better answers than them :3 Plutocracy at work here?
icemaster2340 2 months ago
shut up, harvard
nikkkinakamitie 2 months ago
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juliana86319 2 months ago
some of the student answers are difficult to watch
palebluedot 2 months ago 58
@palebluedot Painful...and this is Harvard...
MsPatyBrazil 1 month ago
@palebluedot It's not as easy as it looks standing up and voicing your opinions and thoughts - sometimes it's hard to explain, isn't it??
CooCurrent 1 day ago
olasss
esteban111280 2 months ago
Value of life is only given by freedom, high pleasure cannot exist unless the latter is true. Therefore the freedom and the right for men to develop itself is the only conditional and premise for in which the regards of pleasure can be explained. Violate the one conditional in which the premise is set, high pleasure cannot exist.
matthijs122 2 months ago
Why the prime directive of course! What ever else could we do!
MrAgnost 2 months ago
FAKE AND GAY
JohnTrolling619 2 months ago
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i3ant0n 2 months ago
@richardloveschrist Pedophiles want to come inside you, give you an everlasting peace and joy.
tristbjorn 2 months ago
@richardloveschrist how noble of you - to exploit suffering people. Telling them lies, that if they end up believing in them, will make them feel forever guilty for being human.
tristbjorn 2 months ago
@tristbjorn He's not telling people lies - he's telling them the truth. Secondly, why would it be wrong in your naturalistic worldview to lie to people? Oh that's right... we've had this discussion before - and your argument got annihilated.
You've stuck to your good old atheistic, irrational ways even when you know they're wrong. Why can't you just accept the truth instead of choosing to live in a dream world in which you continually lie to yourself? Smarten up already.
Daracon75 2 months ago
@blowfish133 Even though dogmatic believers may believe in absolute morals, they can seldom agree or keep up with it. Any social being will have some morals for a society to arise.
Please show anything pointing to the brain being anything but chemical reactions.
tristbjorn 2 months ago
I think the fundemental problem with the Ford Pinto case wasn't that they tried to assign a value to human life, it's that their cost/benefit ananlysis was unfair. The money that they lost to make the cars safe doesn't detract from the "greater good," it comes from their bottom line. That money belongs to them. The people that died are part of society. They are part of the greater good and are automatically more valuable than some companies profit.
PowerPigify 2 months ago 2
@PowerPigify yeah i was wondering why nobody touched on that point. It is better for the "minority" (the company profits) to earn that money, not for society
tkdavidoff 2 months ago in playlist Justice with Michael Sandel
scariest ending i ever seen goddammit
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amazoneon 2 months ago
@fuck192ass Mm, well, regardless of what you think, which I agree, you shouldn't be able to put a $ to human life, it is entirely possible and is used to the widest benefit to most companies and even the government itself.
hellzbomber 2 months ago
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Izybellaz 2 months ago
@Izybellaz Because it is highly relevant to life and requires some intelligence to appreciate :-)
Redpilldown 2 months ago
@Izybellaz how do you NOT find it interesting?? :s dude you're strange.
lonelytylenols 2 months ago
hey guys! can anyone explain what this is ? a study lesson in psychology? are this guys harvard students? i would be very thankful, sry for my bad english
BadGuitarFreak 2 months ago
@BadGuitarFreak It appears to be a lecture class in philosophy at Harvard. The instructor is Michael Sandel.
andrewpuchala 2 months ago
@andrewpuchala thank you
BadGuitarFreak 2 months ago
21:03 is that guy on the right Cochran from survivor?
Loafize 2 months ago
For the class to work you need to stick to a few choices...you are not being taught about justice or talking about humanitaris or utilitrianism...you are being inducted into accepting a few choices laid out in front of you by someone with control, power or authority...or all 3. Funny how NO ONE pointed that out...everybody is just there trying to get some acceptance from other people...
thehornypuppy 2 months ago
@thehornypuppy
Isn't that the basis of a social contract? The foundation of a just society? We agree on what the external environment is, analyze available options, then choose whichever option best fits our own "moral compass". We then analyze the consequences, as well as the principles guiding our moral compasses to derive greater meaning about our experiences. That sounds like Justice in practice to me, viewed through the respective lens of utilitarianism, and categorical moral reasoning.
Ross87campbell 4 weeks ago
@thehornypuppy In the first episode one clever student spotted an option with the failing organ patients that hadn't been put on the table. His points illustrates both the need for an informed majority to be presented with an accurate picture of the environment and illustrates that the point of the exercise is reflection and improvement of our social tools, models, and understanding. It is not some pseudo-popularity acceptance fest for individual opinions
Ross87campbell 4 weeks ago
That's fucked up...i'd rather watch the class than any of those 3......well...proof is i'm here.
thehornypuppy 2 months ago
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Pessoal leia com atenção.
Jesus Ensinou:
De graça recebeste, de graça dai. Mateus 10:8
O amor ao dinheiro é a raiz de toda sorte de coisas prejudiciais. 1 Timoteo 6: 10
Apostolo Paulo trabalhava para se sustentar. Atos 18: 1-3
Apostolos não eram vendedores da palavra de Deus. 2 Corintios 2: 17
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Para Mim falar na cara dele o que realmente ele é.
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Cris70059 2 months ago
corrupt
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MYCRAZYASSREVIEWS 2 months ago
justice belongs to the people we are only asked to give them what they deserve.
Thanks to the teacher.
maziga Dominic
Dmaziga478b50 2 months ago in playlist Justice with Michael Sandel
Is this a class? seriously i would love being in a class like this
2hafstylezk 2 months ago
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! now harvard will be on the front page for another 3 weeks.
who8mahbacon 2 months ago
THIS HAPPENINGS IS TRUE, LIKE IN THE PHILIPPINES JUSTICE IS NOT PROPERLY SERVE OR HAVING LOOP HOLES,THIS LAWS MUST BE REWRITTEN AGAIN TO CORRECT MAKE IT STRAIGHT TO IMPLEMENT, LIKE IF YOU WANT TO GO OUT OF THE COUNTRY SEEKING FOR LIFE CURE, IS NOT PERMITTED, WHEN YOUR BEING IN THE SPOTLIGHT OF PEOPLE THAT ARE NEGATIVES, LOTS OF CASES ARE NOT PROPERLY HANDLED, WHO'S WINNING & LOSSING ? SUPREME COURT IS NOT SO STRICK TO IMPLEMENT & INFORCE THE LAW...IN THE PHILIPPINES...DILEMA MABUHAY KA...
joenathaniel2 2 months ago
THIS HAPPENINGS IS TRUE, LIKE IN THE PHILIPPINES JUSTICE IS NOT PROPERLY SERVE OR HAVING LOOP HOLES,THIS LAWS MUST BE REWRITTEN AGAIN TO CORRECT MAKE IT STRAIGHT TO IMPLEMENT, LIKE IF YOU WANT TO GO OUT OF THE COUNTRY SEEKING FOR LIFE CURE, IS NOT PERMITTED, WHEN YOUR BEING IN THE SPOTLIGHT OF PEOPLE THAT ARE NEGATIVES, LOTS OF CASES ARE NOT PROPERLY HANDLED, WHO'S WINNING & LOSSING ? SUPPREME COURT IS NOT SO STRICK TO IMPLEMENT & INFORCE THE LAW...IN THE PHILIPPINES...DILEMA MABUHAY KA...
joenathaniel2 2 months ago
Price Tags..??? WEIGHT...YES.
WeeWooYou 2 months ago
I ate a worm for twenty dollars when I was eight. I want my ninety-nine thousand, nine hundred and eighty dollars!
VeneficusSententia 2 months ago
Nothing profound here. To summarize 55 minutes with three words; value is relative.
urcorrect 2 months ago
WHAT????
WHAT HAPPENED TO THE PUTIN LOOKING GUY?
JedaiShwa 2 months ago
why do they clap for Mel Gibson butchering Hamlet?
MrCoreyCole 2 months ago
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riddleman65 2 months ago
ECONOMIC JUSTICE FOR THE COMMON GOOD ! HOORAY FOR OWS
kn9ioutom 2 months ago
episode 1 finally got off the front page. now its episode's 2 turn >.>
GamingSavedMySanity 2 months ago
Princeton, Harvard, Yale, bullets, bombs and banks
iamandris 2 months ago
I'd like to fuck that dude in the eye socket.
MrBlemph 2 months ago
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Area 51 - May day - May 1st is when the U.S government furthers their agenda. And in '79 our military found and got in a skirmish with 7 foot grey aliens that have been encamped underground Dulce with their reptilian master's for years.- 66 green beret's and secret service agents lost their lives.
Tr3ySoldier 2 months ago
CLASS WAR ? OWS IS THE FRONT LINE FOR THE MAXIMUM GOOD !!!
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buyos123 2 months ago
a chinese woould have eaten the worm for a dollar. Each!
lambuponthethrone 2 months ago
interesting lecture
juanrosaf 2 months ago
this is some dreary shit....
rahulpower 2 months ago
anyone else notice the same people answering questions in other episodes a.k.a julia & raul.
GeordieeBoyy 2 months ago
@GeordieeBoyy There's people like that in every college lecture. They feel the need to answer every question or ask their own stupid question just so the Prof. pays attention to them and they can boost their ego a little.
MLDWoody 2 months ago
@MLDWoody and then there's the people who never participate for what ever reason (fear of being wrong, fear of attention, inability to form an answer), contributiong to a boring and disengaging learning environment.
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kerriekaterina 2 months ago
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@SorryNoCommentHere
LMFAO So companies and governments are using this guy?. Two reasons not to listen.
Anyway, did not the Elite actually create and promote Class Division? Could someone please remind me again what HARVARD attracts? But wanna hear a better one though? :) Ask the IRS, to show you where it says you have to pay income.
Hope you enjoyed the ride!
hadmatterz 2 months ago
@hadmatterz
income tax!
hadmatterz 2 months ago
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@SorryNoCommentHere life is priceless
i3ant0n 2 months ago
It is cool.
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Americunt4gay 2 months ago
Awesome job guys!Harvard!!?education??!thank you so much for giving us the opportunity to watch these courses and dwell on the discussed subjects.Greetings from greece.
kosg28 2 months ago
@kosg28
If the elite who own the FED (private bank lowning money to govt) They own all the media too, so whats their agenda? to make more money? Really? They instigated a Deliberate Economic Collapse. Their corporations produce so much food and yet so many starve. Therefore the system aint working. They create the problem and provide supposed solutions through their media , to further their agenda.
get streetwise to this BS please!!! say no to this crap.
hadmatterz 2 months ago 2
Y u invading my frontpage?
SchergeSatans 2 months ago
then calculate how many people you have killed in Iraq? and what is worth/value of these lives and how much oil by worth you held? and what you will be going to do by that theory?
SuperAh1962 2 months ago
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lightandbeautiful 2 months ago
justice is getting pussay
aznmaplemaster 2 months ago
If we didn't have a value on life, we would all be driving tanks (or taking metro).
NimporteQuoiQueTuVeu 2 months ago
0:54 - 0:58 FTW!!!
ToniNoriega 2 months ago 2
The day when people start to "Put a price tag on their own parents or children" thats the day I would even consider arguing to "utilitarian logic".......
sai242488 2 months ago in playlist Justice with Michael Sandel
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tonimont57 2 months ago
LMAO!!! there is guy sleeping at 0.54!!!
khachar 2 months ago 76
@khachar holy good catch man! brilliant!!
williemac0420 2 months ago in playlist Justice with Michael Sandel
@khachar haha xD
Wiintendoful 2 months ago
Is the IVY League justice...?. Some more pesticide & genetically modified vegetables, oh... and a glass of flouride please! Yummy. Now i'm ignorant all over again. Nevermind, it tastes yummy. Lets see whats on FOX?!
hadmatterz 2 months ago
@khachar hhhhhhhhhhhhh i did not see it before bravo good look ^-^
khadija12390 2 months ago
@khachar no there is a man sleeping at 0:54
swuzz17 2 months ago 39
Longest video ever on Youtube.
ManuelC572 2 months ago
Excellent video, GREAT TEACHER!
gabi925 2 months ago 2
Justice?
KILL. ALL. HUMANS.
The1stPoster 2 months ago
WHERE WERE YOU WHEN REPUBLICONS DESTROYED THE WORD ?
kn9ioutom 2 months ago
@richardloveschrist how you say, brainwashed?
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MrBomshizzle 2 months ago 4
the guy at 0:53 LOL
kashrox 2 months ago
@kashrox He looks blind !
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SorryNoCommentHere 2 months ago
Why am i whatching this?
DavidVillalba17 2 months ago
@richardloveschrist HOLY SHIT DUDE, Christ is inside you and transforming you?! HE'S AN ALIEN?! Fuck, I gotta tell people they have to stay away from Christ!
Yakura 2 months ago
It isn't about putting a price on human life, it's about putting a price on risk.
countergnom 2 months ago
@richardloveschrist Dude, really ? Are you seriously on drugs? there is no way that you can act like that and be normal...I mean people in movies don't overact as much as you do.And how will you help "the people" who seek Christ and whatnot.And one last thing how do you know that all of this that you are speaking is even true? can you prove it somehow? or it is just there... silly people
Inffinity123 2 months ago
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I thought they taught the Golden Rule to Kindergardeners for a reason.
'Do unto others as you would have them do unto you.'
Bak3dB3an 2 months ago
Philosophically speaking, the bottom line of this debate.
The problem with putting a price tag on my life ultimately gives me the right to put a price tag on your life.
Until this type of barbaric thinking stops mankind will never truly advance.
TheTwins60 2 months ago
@TheTwins60
Well said my friend.
Bak3dB3an 2 months ago
@TheTwins60
Yeh, I think there is a way for all to benefit, not just for some, on the downfall of others.
Capitalism has now become a box. We need to think outside the box where profit is not more important than anything else.
All the pilagers and rapists of the past and the murderous and enslaving british empire knew the saying 'together e stand, divided we fall'.
If only we can apply that to mankind. Not caring about another divides us all. Caring and empathy is what unites us.
Bak3dB3an 2 months ago
@TheTwins60 my balls itch
killerE92 2 months ago
NO JUSTICE ! NO PEACE ! IF IT WERE NOT AGAINST LAW GOP WOULD EAT THE POOR
kn9ioutom 2 months ago
lol how i love it when men try to twist a concept so that it fits and meets their own ends, for example ford only listed what would benefit and create gains for their own company or someone might say but they also benefited the government aka the people through increased tax revenue due to lack of expenditure on the shields. increased tax revenue would lead to more money spent on health, education, social development etc etc but how can you spend money on people who are dead lol
bloodfraction 2 months ago
Dear Universe, "Only the best possible Universe, ever possible, ever exists, always, regardless of all always, and it is 100% impossible to change, always, regardless of all always, and all of such & "all" has already been 100% PROVED, PROVEN, & VERIFIED, always, regardless of all always. And, "all" is good & does good, always, regardless of all always, & "all" is a Practitioner(s) of 10 COMMANDMENT WAY, always, regardless of all always, likewise. Amen. Love always, Robert Michael Crofoot, GOD
Roberto77759 2 months ago
@richardloveschrist Seriously why the heck are you even bothering writing all of this bullcrap on youtube no one really cares the only thing that might happen is someone flaming you either you're a psycho or you're trollin' so yeah dude just save your god nonesense and go post them elsewhere
Inffinity123 2 months ago
Gran clase, tan profunda como divertida. Gracias.
Con respecto a ser educado para estar apto a vivir ciertos hechos de mejor manera, es completamente cierto. Pero si a ésta educación recibida no se la recrea, solo subjetivamente, ésta con el avance social se vuelve ya inutil.
walterbonny 2 months ago
Ha ha :D there is a guy sleeping at the first clip of the video :D
off-course there may be a lot ;)
Naveen123222 2 months ago
there are too many factors to translate values into money and there are many different values from different people
Metamorphisize 2 months ago
someone's sleeping at 00:54
dooraball 2 months ago
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Is this video going to be on the front page for two months as well?
CFKel 2 months ago
i feel smart watching this
dylanmasterguy 2 months ago
@richardloveschrist pff i want what ever you're having :D
Inffinity123 2 months ago
@Inffinity123 LOL i don't think richardloveschrist gets it...
Rollecate28 2 months ago