The atheists posting on this video are ridiculous: you can be a theist - which means believing in God(s). I believe in God and also love science. It's not as if there are two extremes. Atheists... stop preaching your dogmatic, 'right wing' vile and start being rational and civilized.
@lepthymo If God did not make the universe and provided the intelligence for the scientists of the Hubble Space telescope we would have never seen these pictures.
@georgeamarcelo so basicly he makes people not have a choice in weather they go to hell or heaven? and yet he claims to be benevolent? sounds like he just feels like torturing some mortals then.
@lepthymo Yes, God is sovereign. As for benevolent, He is benevolent to those elected to salvation. He is also benevolent in postponing the death of those opposed to him, and they even manage to feel happy from the time to time. There may be mercy for you. Repent if you can.
Joh 3:18 Those who believe in the Son are not judged; but those who do not believe have already been judged, because they have not believed in God's only Son.
@georgeamarcelo well it's good to know i'm allowed to feel happy from time to time before magic sky-fairy goes and tortures me for eternity. talking about repentance, why your god? other gods seem eager to inflict eternal punishment as well, why not repent to them?
I am not sure how atheists are like satanists. They just believe in science, not rituals, dark lords, worshipping themselves, etc. They live in the realm of the real.
The bible has countless contradictions, but that's besides the point. The book, though full of humility and kindness, has just as much hate, discrimination and evil in it. How does a completely merciful being send any of his 'children' to hell? God himself is a contradiction. The alpha and the omega, he is everything and nothing
I find it funny that you say you have no fear, when christians call themselves 'god-fearing.'
Please give me an example of how prayer worked for you, as in you asked God to do something and he did it.
How does an atheist have no direction? They live their life, they study science and the phsyical world around them and believe in it whole-heartedly. They have no fear of dying because they accept the harshest reality of it.
People turn to prayer because they can't get through their problems without an imaginary friend to listen to them and hold their hand.
Fear rules the religious persons life, they are reliant upon an authority figure to validate their actions. As an atheist I know that I have to decide for myself what to do with my life, Letting a cult, or an ancient book decide that for you is much easier and less frightening than taking responsibility for your own decisions.
Do you really think the whole universe came about by a "random" explosion (the big bang), without God's hand? Something can not come from nothing, and the Bible says God existed forever (Psalms 90:2) and that He created the universe (Genesis 1:1). Most Bible prophecy is fulfilled already, some is being fulfilled today, and the rest is setting up to happen. The Bible tells you how to be be forgiven and go to Heaven (John 3:16-18 is one place). If you are interested, please e-mail me.
@ExistenceHappens Call us fools all you want. Billions of people dedicate their life to God because just looking at nature it is obvious SOMETHING created us. I don't turn to prayer because I need an imaginary friend. I pray because God is real is my life. You can't see the wind but you believe it exists because you can feel it. Atheists becomes Christians only because of what God has done in their life.
Sorry if i missed some, could you PM them? So I have a little more space to answer?
Atheists live their life to the fullest because they know that this is all they have. You can sit on the couch all day because you have an eternal life ahead of you. Why would you do something if you have that much time to do it? You miss an impulse
Fact that youre listened to? A fact requires proof... HAHAHAHAH DARWINS BIG BANG THEORY??? OMFG!! Are you serious???? Do you really know that little about other world views? Wow... Darwin had nothing to do with the big bang theory, just so you know XD. Why is there suppose to be an after life? I never said that, I dont think we are "put" on this world.
Why do people pray? Because they think somebody might be listening, but that doesnt make it true. They find rest in the idea that theyre being listened to and that theyre not responible for the world because God looks over them.
Ok, first of all, have you ever spoken to an atheist?? You give some really old skool arguments. Lets begin with "proof". First of all, I dont need proof to show that something DOESNT exist. That is impossible. You believe in something and therefor you should be able to proof it. You can never disprove Allah or Boeddha or the flying spaghetti monster.
"theory" lol :p Well, this is ofcourse complete bullshit and I dont understand where youve got your so called "facts' from. All these sentences in the bible contradict themself+you can read in em what ever you want. They can go for each era you want. If you would look at the same stories, they would also apply to 200 years ago. Its like Nostradamus. Do you believe him too?
God didnt say it in the bible. Man did. Do you know how the bible has been written? Do some research. I dont see a significance. Your life depends on it? In what way? And isnt it smarter to make friends with Satan? Ive always wondered that. Cause if you do something wrong in Gods book, youll burn in hell. If you just make sure Satan likes you (since he hasnt that many rules its a lot easier) youll just have a pleasant time in hell!
I answered it, you should read. I told you that there cant be any significance to something that didnt happen. If your life depends on that, why dont you kill yourself? Or are you going to hell if you do that? I seriously dont know.
The significance is that a lot of people pray to him every sunday. Thats all. No point of doing it at all, you get just as much response praying to skittles (there was a study to that, lol ;) ). Anyway, the point is, what reason do i have to believe. I mean, you dont believe in Allah or Boeddha or Krishna or Appolo i asume, why not? And why do you believe in Jezus?
By asking that question, youre assuming that it did happen. I say that i dont think it did. Where did i get that it didnt happen? Common sense. The only thing you rely your faith on is the bible, which is full of mistakes, you know that. Why would you trust in on other points if it makes so many mistakes? You cant rise from the death. Never happend, never will. If you have ANY form of proof, ill take it and believe in God. Obviously. But there isnt. So what is the significance of Jesus' death?
I have read it... Bit boring so skipped a few pieces i have to admit.. But hey, most christians havent read it at all. What do you mean with "purpose" I mean purpose for what or who? There was no significance of Jesus' death. Lots of people were killed like that. He did not rise again, obviously. You really havent thought about this to much have you? Comments are really to short to answer all of your questions. Pretty much all of them have been explained and asked already. Wanna do it with pm?
Right. But the bible was written by man over a lot of years where it is adapted to suit the spirit of that time or zeitgeist and was translated with a lot of mistakes. Above that the church made a lot of changes in it to make it suit a christian life style. So... What makes you believe the bible? I mean, if thats the only proof for what God did, then there 7 times as much evidence for Harry Potter.
That isnt really possible. Cause enternity never ends right? So its impossible for something that has been there for enternity to reach this point in time, cause it would take an eternal amount of time, which never happens
Eternal is one of the attributes of God. God is not bound by space and time. I will send you a video made by another person that explains this is more detail.
Whaat? you sent me a vid from VenomFangX... I mean common... You actually believe this guy? He admitted already that hes a liar... He has no clue about any thing... Whats the "why do people laugh at creationists" videos... If you believe VenomFangX you probably think Kent Hovind is right too.
Part 1: In the beginning the universe was formless and void, consisting only of ideas & potentiality. But in time the universe drawing upon its nature created many things. Replicating in the temporal material world what it has always had in the eternal world of ideas. When the nature of man was unleashed , the universe gained self-awareness and with it a drive to further realize the unlimited nature of its own potentiality.
1 Timothy 4:1-5 The Spirit makes it clear that as time goes on, some are going to give up on the faith and chase after demonic illusions put forth by professional liars. These liars have lied so well and for so long that they've lost their capacity for truth.
They will tell you not to get married. They'll tell you not to eat this or that food—perfectly good food God created to be eaten heartily and with thanksgiving by believers who know better! Everything God created is good, and to be received with thanks. Nothing is to be sneered at and thrown out. God's Word and our prayers make every item in creation holy."
bible sum 12:6-5 give me that stranger so that i may lay with him, said the thugs, ney said the man, here rape my daughter instead, this is from the bible, new testement
bible again: you must kill your brother if he changes faith and worships other false gods, even tho there is a comandment in the main ten thou shalt not kill, which is it kill or not?
its pointless to argue with these people if sum one believes in an invisable unproveable fictional figure with out any evidence, then meh lol
Part 2: And in time creating for itself attributes once only contained within myth & religion. Its been said that God created the universe, it may be more accurate to say, the universe will create God. Bringing itself from a state of unlimited potentiality to one of unlimited actuality.
Well this was an entertaining conversation as we can both agree.. These limited text comments have become irritating and intollerable.. Arguments would be so much easier if there were chatboxes..
2Cor 4:3-4 But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost: In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.
So that very budhist who may have never heard of the bible nor jesus.. Yet for that very reason he wont be able to ask for forgiveness and request salvation to which then he will be sent to hell and you find that unreasonable?..
That isnt really possible. Cause enternity never ends right? So its impossible for something that has been there for enternity to reach this point in time, cause it would take an eternal amount of time, which never happens
How is that answer to our purpose in life any more amusing than wasting our entire lives worshiping a being that without any concrete proof may or may not exist.. Free will is what he supposedly gave us.. Why would he punish us for making the most rational and logical answer to creation of everything.. To think some all mighty being with "magic" just poofed us into existance..
I should have stated more clearly that evolution is leaning more towards infallible... For those who were raised in lets say a buhdist upbringing.. Who does not seek salvation from jesus but rather the "god" he is most familiar with (possible the wrong choice) would be sent to hell for his reasonable mistake..
One theory is reaching the goal of a utopia.. As time progresses so would society.. As we learn from our flaws and relinquish our problems we will gradually reach the goal of a utopia.. Each person contributes to this in their own way.. This is one of the theories i have come to accept and embrace in the way i perceive life's purpose..
Why does there have to be a purpose to life? There are many theory's on the matter.. All of which are better than the one your bible claims.. The purpose of life being to worship "god"... That very god which supposedly created innocent people to which he knew would inevitably be sent to hell.. How does that make sense? Perhaps he gets pleasure by creating souls to watch them live out their lives on earth and when dead get sentenced to hell.. Watching as they burn for eternity?
So how does every other religion stand in your book?.. You probably believe every other religion is just absurd and their "god" a lie.. Honestly theres no true differentiation between religions and their views on one another.. They all believe their religion is the correct one and all others are wrong.. So how are you so sure that your religion is the "correct" one (to say there even is a correct one)...
All religions are Babylonian except for Biblical Christianity. I will send you a video showing this. The Bible says God reconciled us to Himself as a free gift even though we did not deserve it, by Jesus Christ dying on the cross for our sins. Religion says "you must do this" to be reconciled to God. You cannot believe in the Gospel of Jesus Christ without God acting. It is written:
Rom 3:11 There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God.
But without proper guidance none of those people will be forgiven and salvation taken from them.. Hell is inevitable to those who dont ask for his forgiveness..
Rom 9:15-16 For he saith to Moses, I will have mercy on whom I will have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I will have compassion. So then it is not of him that willeth, nor of him that runneth, but of God that sheweth mercy.
Col 1:21-23 And you, that were sometime alienated and enemies in your mind by wicked works, yet now hath he reconciled In the body of his flesh through death, to present you holy and unblameable and unreproveable in his sight.
We see bible scholars as a "piss-poor" job.. To study a book that has no absolute evidence to back it up.. We use our logic and reason to find the most reasonable explanation for the creation of everything rather than just believing that some omnipotent being wished it to be...
lol.. neither does an all mighty being who just creates them in one day.. We see evolution as the most rational explanation and it is nearly infallible, unlike the bible...
What an all merciful and forgiving "god" he must be.. How does he view those that have never heard of "jesus" and his fable tales.. So they that cannot accept christ will be sent to hell.. Such a despicable and horrible punishment for such minuscule circumstances..
"As for scientists...well pretty piss-poor job on their part if everyone thinks they've come a long way. They've hardly even scratched the surface...". Yeah, instead they make up a bunch of unproven theories such as Abiogenesis and Evolution the chances of them happening are billions to one.
Your naive to think in such a manner.. To believe that someone, that being so called "god", has to exist in order for the rules of the universe to fall in to place...
Yeah, I thank God for this freedom and to know the truth without persecution from others. I pray that those in other countries will be freed from the shackles of anti-christian persecution soon.
As to say that most of those people would be willing to convert to Christianity? They are just as snugged into their religion as you are yours.. and for that very reason they will be sent to hell (according to your religion).. How horrible..
"As to say that most of those people would be willing to convert to Christianity?" I didn't said anything about converting, all that I am saying is that I hope for a day when Christians in countries like communist North korea will not be persecuted anymore.
Wait a minute! Your bible says the Earth and all those galaxies you just showed were created a few thousand years ago. However, those very galaxies that you showed are millions of light years away. Why are you showing objects who's light hasn't reached us yet? According to your bible, we can't even see those galaxies yet, let alone most of the stars! And don't tell me it's because "god" momentarily sped up light to reach us. I refuse to worship someone full of as much deception and trickery.
The universe was created in 6 days as described in Genesis 1, with God resting on the seventh day. It was not created via a physical process. The laws of physics are evidence of the "holding together" of the universe, as stated in Col 1:17. Hope that helps.
It doesn't explain how we can see objects millions of light years away when the Universe as only existed for a few thousand years. However, I appreciate your kind, non-judgmental answer. You're the first Christian who hasn't lashed back with hatred and judgment (what led my initial movement from Christianity to Atheism), so I do appreciate that.
The laws of physics do not apply to the creation of the universe, which is what I meant when I said it was not a physical process. For example, the 1st Law of Thermodynamics says that matter-energy cannot be created or destroyed, and the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics says that systems tend to increase in disorder), so the speed of light may not apply (it may have been whatever it had to be then), as laws of physics did not apply then.
Laws of physics may have kicked in after day 6 but we are not told when by God. Miracles are suspensions of the laws of physics by God in specific times and places. It appears that God controls these laws and not the other way around.
WOW, Your Bible must have a lot more chapters than mine does for you to figure all that out. Have you ever wondered how a child can be a christian, but it takes an educated adult to study REAL science. Anyone can blindly repeat what someone has told them. Science is the effort to understand.
You just need to understand Col 1:15-17, where it is written:
"He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation. For by him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things were created by him and for him. He is before all things, and in him all things hold together."
If he is the firstborn, as this says, that means he's born, that means he has to have a mother or something... This part of the bible shows perfectly that christianity was made up by kings and rulers who wanted their people to obey them...
The phrase "firstborn over all creation" means that He existed before the universe. Here is a paraphrase (The Message) which makes the meaning a bit clearer.
"We look at this Son and see the God who cannot be seen. We look at this Son and see God's original purpose in everything created. For everything, absolutely everything, above and below, visible and invisible, rank after rank after rank of angels—everything got started in him and finds its purpose in him. He was there before any of it came into existence and holds it all together right up to this moment."
"wow" feel free to live in your delusion. I don't mind. Until you use your delusion to force your ideals and beliefs on others. Than its time that you learn just how blinding your delusion can be from the wanders of life, and the reality of existence, with no need of a overlord ruling over us with his magic, and his hell for those that dare to challenge him.
pascals' wager. fail again, look up pascal's wager and see why it doesn't work. As for everything else everyone else said it is either irrelevant or doesn't address the fact that the beauty or appeal of something does not lend whatsoever to it's veracity.
Nor does your opinion need to be heard by the whole world. It's about time that superstitious bullshit be abandoned. It is the 21st century, yet you people still live in the distant past, in unrequited stupidity.
Rom 1:20 "For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:"
Did you know that if the universe has been around for 20 billion years like the evolutionists say, the arms of those spiral galaxies would have been ripped apart by eachothers gravity just millions of years ago?
The invisible things of Him from the beginning of creation are clearly seen by the things that are made, even His eternal power and Godhead! So that man is without excuse!
Dudes, you better think again before speaking your foolishness...You have an appointment with death. The Creator is the one who wrote the Ten Commandments in the stone and will judge you from them. Repent...turn from your sin ...kiss the Son (Jesus Christ) lest He be angry and you perish from the way of the living!
1Co 1:20-21 "Where is the wise? where is the scribe? where is the disputer of this world? hath not God made foolish the wisdom of this world? For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe."
3Ki 4:23:17 "Go fucketh thyself, said Jesus to the donkey-brain Pharisee. I emergeth from the pussy of the Virgin. The fetid afterbirth washeth you like the vagina-juice of the Jezebel. Walk forth and speweth thee not the bile of the Bible. Know thee not why thy universe is here? Know thee not any science? Enjoy thee to play the part of the moron? Realize thee that thou soundeth like a retarded jackass when thou quoteth thy Bible?
2Pe 3:3-5 "Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts, And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation. For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water:"
What a fucktard song. Couldn't listen for more than a couple of seconds.
If the video was going to claim that all the natural stuff you are showing had something to do with a perverted fairytale "God" you're a fucktard also.
John 15:20 "Remember the word that I said unto you, The servant is not greater than his Lord. If they have persecuted Me, they will also persecute you; if they have kept My saying, they will keep yours also."
Luke: 16:14 "And Jesus lowered his loincloth and buttfucketh georgeamarcelo a dozen times, then Jesus re-raised his loincloth after the buttfucketh, and walked on Walter. Later Jesus pondered the earlier buttfucketh and searched out georgeamarcelo again but only saw a goat and buttfuckethed the goat while THINKING of georgeamarcel instead. Amen."
To quote Douglas Adams: It is enough for me that the garden is beautiful without there having to be fairies at the bottom of it. There are no fairies at the bottom of the universe no matter how many times you sing it mate... have a scientific day.
For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe. For the Jews require a sign, and the Greeks seek after wisdom but we preach Christ crucified, unto the Jews a stumblingblock, and unto the Greeks foolishness but unto them which are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God, and the wisdom of God. Because the foolishness of God is wiser than men and the weakness of God is stronger than men.
That first photo is it in the philippines?My ex is from manila.Kalaocan or however it is spelled.She's in Florida with my kids.Anyways loved the video.Thanks for sharing.
Yes, the first photo is the top of Mt. Apo, the tallest mountain in the Philippines. It is spelled Caloocan. Glad you liked it! God bless you brother!
The atheists posting on this video are ridiculous: you can be a theist - which means believing in God(s). I believe in God and also love science. It's not as if there are two extremes. Atheists... stop preaching your dogmatic, 'right wing' vile and start being rational and civilized.
HULLOHULLO15 1 year ago
@HULLOHULLO15 i'm a left-wing atheist... BOOM there goes your stereotype.
also, atheists aren't the ones making the extremes, christians are usually atacking science and we're just defending it.
lepthymo 1 year ago
@lepthymo You belong to a minority of atheists, then.
HULLOHULLO15 1 year ago
if christianity had held on to its power we'd have never seen those pictures.
lepthymo 1 year ago
@lepthymo If God did not make the universe and provided the intelligence for the scientists of the Hubble Space telescope we would have never seen these pictures.
georgeamarcelo 1 year ago
@georgeamarcelo we had to abolish serving god to see those so apparently it wasnt gods plan.
lepthymo 1 year ago
@lepthymo Rom 9:18 So then, God has mercy on anyone He wishes, and He makes stubborn anyone He wishes.
georgeamarcelo 1 year ago
@georgeamarcelo so basicly he makes people not have a choice in weather they go to hell or heaven? and yet he claims to be benevolent? sounds like he just feels like torturing some mortals then.
lepthymo 1 year ago
@lepthymo Yes, God is sovereign. As for benevolent, He is benevolent to those elected to salvation. He is also benevolent in postponing the death of those opposed to him, and they even manage to feel happy from the time to time. There may be mercy for you. Repent if you can.
Joh 3:18 Those who believe in the Son are not judged; but those who do not believe have already been judged, because they have not believed in God's only Son.
georgeamarcelo 1 year ago
@georgeamarcelo well it's good to know i'm allowed to feel happy from time to time before magic sky-fairy goes and tortures me for eternity. talking about repentance, why your god? other gods seem eager to inflict eternal punishment as well, why not repent to them?
lepthymo 1 year ago
@lepthymo Rom 9:16 So then, everything depends, not on what we humans want or do, but only on God's mercy.
georgeamarcelo 1 year ago
@georgeamarcelo authoritarian regime much? you make sounds like an ass dude.
lepthymo 1 year ago
@georgeamarcelo
realhomosapiens 7 months ago
@georgeamarcelo
I bet you´re absolutely right, regardless of what scientists claim, an infinite universe could come only from God...
Thank you for posting this video, it´s just beautifull
God bless you and yours
realhomosapiens 7 months ago
@realhomosapiens Thanks!
georgeamarcelo 7 months ago
God is great!!!!
4chukwuebuka 1 year ago
Amen!!
georgeamarcelo 1 year ago
God bless you brother.
4chukwuebuka 1 year ago
Thanks for posting this, To GOD be the Glory great things He has done.
rightlydivide 2 years ago 2
Amen!
georgeamarcelo 2 years ago
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dtmfsicko 2 years ago
grrr8 pic's . shite music tho . i dont see how this has anythig to do about your god ?
dtmfsicko 2 years ago
Gen 1:1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
georgeamarcelo 1 year ago
I am not sure how atheists are like satanists. They just believe in science, not rituals, dark lords, worshipping themselves, etc. They live in the realm of the real.
The bible has countless contradictions, but that's besides the point. The book, though full of humility and kindness, has just as much hate, discrimination and evil in it. How does a completely merciful being send any of his 'children' to hell? God himself is a contradiction. The alpha and the omega, he is everything and nothing
thatstrangecat 2 years ago 2
I find it funny that you say you have no fear, when christians call themselves 'god-fearing.'
Please give me an example of how prayer worked for you, as in you asked God to do something and he did it.
How does an atheist have no direction? They live their life, they study science and the phsyical world around them and believe in it whole-heartedly. They have no fear of dying because they accept the harshest reality of it.
The Bible is in no way relevant to today.
thatstrangecat 2 years ago
@thatstrangecat looser!
cirlind 1 year ago
Deuteronomy 10:20
"FEAR the Lord your God and serve him."
1 Peter 2:17
"...Love the brotherhood of believers, FEAR God, honor the king."
Good Christians are supposed to fear God, and that last point Peter put in there is why Pete is a friend of Constantine and Old King James.
Saying that Atheist have "no direction" is both laughable and offensive.
I have a direction that I pick myself, because I can make my own decisions without relying upon gods invisible guiding light.
Prove prayer works...
ExistenceHappens 2 years ago 5
The lips of the righteous feed many: but fools die for want of wisdom. (Proverbs 10:21)
georgeamarcelo 2 years ago
The turn of a phrase to support one's position from a 2000 year old, non-evidentiary book is the last recourse of a fool.
OfTheWillows 2 years ago
People turn to prayer because they can't get through their problems without an imaginary friend to listen to them and hold their hand.
Fear rules the religious persons life, they are reliant upon an authority figure to validate their actions. As an atheist I know that I have to decide for myself what to do with my life, Letting a cult, or an ancient book decide that for you is much easier and less frightening than taking responsibility for your own decisions.
PM me for Bible contradictions
ExistenceHappens 2 years ago 5
Do you really think the whole universe came about by a "random" explosion (the big bang), without God's hand? Something can not come from nothing, and the Bible says God existed forever (Psalms 90:2) and that He created the universe (Genesis 1:1). Most Bible prophecy is fulfilled already, some is being fulfilled today, and the rest is setting up to happen. The Bible tells you how to be be forgiven and go to Heaven (John 3:16-18 is one place). If you are interested, please e-mail me.
Compguy321 2 years ago
@ExistenceHappens Call us fools all you want. Billions of people dedicate their life to God because just looking at nature it is obvious SOMETHING created us. I don't turn to prayer because I need an imaginary friend. I pray because God is real is my life. You can't see the wind but you believe it exists because you can feel it. Atheists becomes Christians only because of what God has done in their life.
fantastic7heaven 3 weeks ago
The deeper one penetrates into nature's secrets, the greater becomes one's respect for God.
YARTES2K8 2 years ago
Sorry if i missed some, could you PM them? So I have a little more space to answer?
Atheists live their life to the fullest because they know that this is all they have. You can sit on the couch all day because you have an eternal life ahead of you. Why would you do something if you have that much time to do it? You miss an impulse
uck1007 3 years ago
Fact that youre listened to? A fact requires proof... HAHAHAHAH DARWINS BIG BANG THEORY??? OMFG!! Are you serious???? Do you really know that little about other world views? Wow... Darwin had nothing to do with the big bang theory, just so you know XD. Why is there suppose to be an after life? I never said that, I dont think we are "put" on this world.
uck1007 3 years ago
Why do people pray? Because they think somebody might be listening, but that doesnt make it true. They find rest in the idea that theyre being listened to and that theyre not responible for the world because God looks over them.
uck1007 3 years ago
Ok, first of all, have you ever spoken to an atheist?? You give some really old skool arguments. Lets begin with "proof". First of all, I dont need proof to show that something DOESNT exist. That is impossible. You believe in something and therefor you should be able to proof it. You can never disprove Allah or Boeddha or the flying spaghetti monster.
uck1007 3 years ago
Isnt he the one in charge of the lake of fire?
uck1007 3 years ago
"theory" lol :p Well, this is ofcourse complete bullshit and I dont understand where youve got your so called "facts' from. All these sentences in the bible contradict themself+you can read in em what ever you want. They can go for each era you want. If you would look at the same stories, they would also apply to 200 years ago. Its like Nostradamus. Do you believe him too?
uck1007 3 years ago
God didnt say it in the bible. Man did. Do you know how the bible has been written? Do some research. I dont see a significance. Your life depends on it? In what way? And isnt it smarter to make friends with Satan? Ive always wondered that. Cause if you do something wrong in Gods book, youll burn in hell. If you just make sure Satan likes you (since he hasnt that many rules its a lot easier) youll just have a pleasant time in hell!
uck1007 3 years ago
God said it? How?
I answered it, you should read. I told you that there cant be any significance to something that didnt happen. If your life depends on that, why dont you kill yourself? Or are you going to hell if you do that? I seriously dont know.
uck1007 3 years ago
The significance is that a lot of people pray to him every sunday. Thats all. No point of doing it at all, you get just as much response praying to skittles (there was a study to that, lol ;) ). Anyway, the point is, what reason do i have to believe. I mean, you dont believe in Allah or Boeddha or Krishna or Appolo i asume, why not? And why do you believe in Jezus?
uck1007 3 years ago
By asking that question, youre assuming that it did happen. I say that i dont think it did. Where did i get that it didnt happen? Common sense. The only thing you rely your faith on is the bible, which is full of mistakes, you know that. Why would you trust in on other points if it makes so many mistakes? You cant rise from the death. Never happend, never will. If you have ANY form of proof, ill take it and believe in God. Obviously. But there isnt. So what is the significance of Jesus' death?
uck1007 3 years ago
I have read it... Bit boring so skipped a few pieces i have to admit.. But hey, most christians havent read it at all. What do you mean with "purpose" I mean purpose for what or who? There was no significance of Jesus' death. Lots of people were killed like that. He did not rise again, obviously. You really havent thought about this to much have you? Comments are really to short to answer all of your questions. Pretty much all of them have been explained and asked already. Wanna do it with pm?
uck1007 3 years ago
Right. But the bible was written by man over a lot of years where it is adapted to suit the spirit of that time or zeitgeist and was translated with a lot of mistakes. Above that the church made a lot of changes in it to make it suit a christian life style. So... What makes you believe the bible? I mean, if thats the only proof for what God did, then there 7 times as much evidence for Harry Potter.
uck1007 3 years ago
That isnt really possible. Cause enternity never ends right? So its impossible for something that has been there for enternity to reach this point in time, cause it would take an eternal amount of time, which never happens
uck1007 3 years ago
Eternal is one of the attributes of God. God is not bound by space and time. I will send you a video made by another person that explains this is more detail.
georgeamarcelo 3 years ago
Whaat? you sent me a vid from VenomFangX... I mean common... You actually believe this guy? He admitted already that hes a liar... He has no clue about any thing... Whats the "why do people laugh at creationists" videos... If you believe VenomFangX you probably think Kent Hovind is right too.
uck1007 3 years ago
Yes God Almighty created the universe through His beloved Son Jesus Christ! Amen bro!
strikerhiryu 3 years ago 3
Part 1: In the beginning the universe was formless and void, consisting only of ideas & potentiality. But in time the universe drawing upon its nature created many things. Replicating in the temporal material world what it has always had in the eternal world of ideas. When the nature of man was unleashed , the universe gained self-awareness and with it a drive to further realize the unlimited nature of its own potentiality.
infernalstinkmonkey 3 years ago
1 Timothy 4:1-5 The Spirit makes it clear that as time goes on, some are going to give up on the faith and chase after demonic illusions put forth by professional liars. These liars have lied so well and for so long that they've lost their capacity for truth.
georgeamarcelo 3 years ago
They will tell you not to get married. They'll tell you not to eat this or that food—perfectly good food God created to be eaten heartily and with thanksgiving by believers who know better! Everything God created is good, and to be received with thanks. Nothing is to be sneered at and thrown out. God's Word and our prayers make every item in creation holy."
(The Message paraphrase)
God bless,
George
georgeamarcelo 3 years ago
bible sum 12:6-5 give me that stranger so that i may lay with him, said the thugs, ney said the man, here rape my daughter instead, this is from the bible, new testement
bible again: you must kill your brother if he changes faith and worships other false gods, even tho there is a comandment in the main ten thou shalt not kill, which is it kill or not?
its pointless to argue with these people if sum one believes in an invisable unproveable fictional figure with out any evidence, then meh lol
TheeBaker 3 years ago
2Tim 2:15-16 "Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.
But shun profane and vain babblings: for they will increase unto more ungodliness."
georgeamarcelo 3 years ago
Part 2: And in time creating for itself attributes once only contained within myth & religion. Its been said that God created the universe, it may be more accurate to say, the universe will create God. Bringing itself from a state of unlimited potentiality to one of unlimited actuality.
infernalstinkmonkey 3 years ago
Well this was an entertaining conversation as we can both agree.. These limited text comments have become irritating and intollerable.. Arguments would be so much easier if there were chatboxes..
Faith blinds those from discovering the truth..
DevilsKey89 3 years ago
It is written:
2Cor 4:3-4 But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost: In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.
God bless,
George
georgeamarcelo 3 years ago
So that very budhist who may have never heard of the bible nor jesus.. Yet for that very reason he wont be able to ask for forgiveness and request salvation to which then he will be sent to hell and you find that unreasonable?..
DevilsKey89 3 years ago
That isnt really possible. Cause enternity never ends right? So its impossible for something that has been there for enternity to reach this point in time, cause it would take an eternal amount of time, which never happens
uck1007 3 years ago
How is that answer to our purpose in life any more amusing than wasting our entire lives worshiping a being that without any concrete proof may or may not exist.. Free will is what he supposedly gave us.. Why would he punish us for making the most rational and logical answer to creation of everything.. To think some all mighty being with "magic" just poofed us into existance..
DevilsKey89 3 years ago
I should have stated more clearly that evolution is leaning more towards infallible... For those who were raised in lets say a buhdist upbringing.. Who does not seek salvation from jesus but rather the "god" he is most familiar with (possible the wrong choice) would be sent to hell for his reasonable mistake..
DevilsKey89 3 years ago
One theory is reaching the goal of a utopia.. As time progresses so would society.. As we learn from our flaws and relinquish our problems we will gradually reach the goal of a utopia.. Each person contributes to this in their own way.. This is one of the theories i have come to accept and embrace in the way i perceive life's purpose..
DevilsKey89 3 years ago
Why does there have to be a purpose to life? There are many theory's on the matter.. All of which are better than the one your bible claims.. The purpose of life being to worship "god"... That very god which supposedly created innocent people to which he knew would inevitably be sent to hell.. How does that make sense? Perhaps he gets pleasure by creating souls to watch them live out their lives on earth and when dead get sentenced to hell.. Watching as they burn for eternity?
DevilsKey89 3 years ago
So how does every other religion stand in your book?.. You probably believe every other religion is just absurd and their "god" a lie.. Honestly theres no true differentiation between religions and their views on one another.. They all believe their religion is the correct one and all others are wrong.. So how are you so sure that your religion is the "correct" one (to say there even is a correct one)...
DevilsKey89 3 years ago
All religions are Babylonian except for Biblical Christianity. I will send you a video showing this. The Bible says God reconciled us to Himself as a free gift even though we did not deserve it, by Jesus Christ dying on the cross for our sins. Religion says "you must do this" to be reconciled to God. You cannot believe in the Gospel of Jesus Christ without God acting. It is written:
Rom 3:11 There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God.
God bless,
George
georgeamarcelo 3 years ago
But without proper guidance none of those people will be forgiven and salvation taken from them.. Hell is inevitable to those who dont ask for his forgiveness..
DevilsKey89 3 years ago
It is written:
Rom 9:15-16 For he saith to Moses, I will have mercy on whom I will have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I will have compassion. So then it is not of him that willeth, nor of him that runneth, but of God that sheweth mercy.
Col 1:21-23 And you, that were sometime alienated and enemies in your mind by wicked works, yet now hath he reconciled In the body of his flesh through death, to present you holy and unblameable and unreproveable in his sight.
God bless,
George
georgeamarcelo 3 years ago
We see bible scholars as a "piss-poor" job.. To study a book that has no absolute evidence to back it up.. We use our logic and reason to find the most reasonable explanation for the creation of everything rather than just believing that some omnipotent being wished it to be...
DevilsKey89 3 years ago
lol.. neither does an all mighty being who just creates them in one day.. We see evolution as the most rational explanation and it is nearly infallible, unlike the bible...
DevilsKey89 3 years ago
What an all merciful and forgiving "god" he must be.. How does he view those that have never heard of "jesus" and his fable tales.. So they that cannot accept christ will be sent to hell.. Such a despicable and horrible punishment for such minuscule circumstances..
DevilsKey89 3 years ago
"As for scientists...well pretty piss-poor job on their part if everyone thinks they've come a long way. They've hardly even scratched the surface...". Yeah, instead they make up a bunch of unproven theories such as Abiogenesis and Evolution the chances of them happening are billions to one.
gneisenau321 3 years ago
Your naive to think in such a manner.. To believe that someone, that being so called "god", has to exist in order for the rules of the universe to fall in to place...
DevilsKey89 3 years ago
God existed from eternity past and will exist until eternity future. Since He is also omnipresent that would mean that He is also here.
georgeamarcelo 3 years ago
Yeah, I thank God for this freedom and to know the truth without persecution from others. I pray that those in other countries will be freed from the shackles of anti-christian persecution soon.
gneisenau321 3 years ago
As to say that most of those people would be willing to convert to Christianity? They are just as snugged into their religion as you are yours.. and for that very reason they will be sent to hell (according to your religion).. How horrible..
DevilsKey89 3 years ago
"As to say that most of those people would be willing to convert to Christianity?" I didn't said anything about converting, all that I am saying is that I hope for a day when Christians in countries like communist North korea will not be persecuted anymore.
gneisenau321 3 years ago
Wait a minute! Your bible says the Earth and all those galaxies you just showed were created a few thousand years ago. However, those very galaxies that you showed are millions of light years away. Why are you showing objects who's light hasn't reached us yet? According to your bible, we can't even see those galaxies yet, let alone most of the stars! And don't tell me it's because "god" momentarily sped up light to reach us. I refuse to worship someone full of as much deception and trickery.
cessna7035q 3 years ago
The universe was created in 6 days as described in Genesis 1, with God resting on the seventh day. It was not created via a physical process. The laws of physics are evidence of the "holding together" of the universe, as stated in Col 1:17. Hope that helps.
God bless,
George
georgeamarcelo 3 years ago
George,
It doesn't explain how we can see objects millions of light years away when the Universe as only existed for a few thousand years. However, I appreciate your kind, non-judgmental answer. You're the first Christian who hasn't lashed back with hatred and judgment (what led my initial movement from Christianity to Atheism), so I do appreciate that.
cessna7035q 3 years ago
The laws of physics do not apply to the creation of the universe, which is what I meant when I said it was not a physical process. For example, the 1st Law of Thermodynamics says that matter-energy cannot be created or destroyed, and the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics says that systems tend to increase in disorder), so the speed of light may not apply (it may have been whatever it had to be then), as laws of physics did not apply then.
georgeamarcelo 3 years ago
Laws of physics may have kicked in after day 6 but we are not told when by God. Miracles are suspensions of the laws of physics by God in specific times and places. It appears that God controls these laws and not the other way around.
God bless,
George
georgeamarcelo 3 years ago
WOW, Your Bible must have a lot more chapters than mine does for you to figure all that out. Have you ever wondered how a child can be a christian, but it takes an educated adult to study REAL science. Anyone can blindly repeat what someone has told them. Science is the effort to understand.
infernalstinkmonkey 3 years ago
You just need to understand Col 1:15-17, where it is written:
"He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation. For by him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things were created by him and for him. He is before all things, and in him all things hold together."
God bless,
George
georgeamarcelo 3 years ago
If he is the firstborn, as this says, that means he's born, that means he has to have a mother or something... This part of the bible shows perfectly that christianity was made up by kings and rulers who wanted their people to obey them...
uck1007 3 years ago
The phrase "firstborn over all creation" means that He existed before the universe. Here is a paraphrase (The Message) which makes the meaning a bit clearer.
(continued...)
georgeamarcelo 3 years ago
"We look at this Son and see the God who cannot be seen. We look at this Son and see God's original purpose in everything created. For everything, absolutely everything, above and below, visible and invisible, rank after rank after rank of angels—everything got started in him and finds its purpose in him. He was there before any of it came into existence and holds it all together right up to this moment."
Hope that helps!
God bless,
George
georgeamarcelo 3 years ago
Oke, so he was "here" for enternity?
uck1007 3 years ago
"wow" feel free to live in your delusion. I don't mind. Until you use your delusion to force your ideals and beliefs on others. Than its time that you learn just how blinding your delusion can be from the wanders of life, and the reality of existence, with no need of a overlord ruling over us with his magic, and his hell for those that dare to challenge him.
Darkphoenix3450 3 years ago
Woo hoo! :)
ricoatheist 3 years ago
I have one... from a real university.
ricoatheist 3 years ago
pascals' wager. fail again, look up pascal's wager and see why it doesn't work. As for everything else everyone else said it is either irrelevant or doesn't address the fact that the beauty or appeal of something does not lend whatsoever to it's veracity.
Unclesamslair 3 years ago
Nor does your opinion need to be heard by the whole world. It's about time that superstitious bullshit be abandoned. It is the 21st century, yet you people still live in the distant past, in unrequited stupidity.
ricoatheist 3 years ago
Since you're so sure your theory is right, why don't you stop trolling youtube and go do something useful with your life.
webfryes 3 years ago
Darwin didn't hyothesize the big bang. Get an education, if you are so capable.
ricoatheist 3 years ago
The world sure is pretty. Who knew physics and chemical processes could do that much. No offense to the delusioned people (believers)
Emp989 3 years ago
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Rom 1:20 "For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:"
georgeamarcelo 3 years ago
Did you know that if the universe has been around for 20 billion years like the evolutionists say, the arms of those spiral galaxies would have been ripped apart by eachothers gravity just millions of years ago?
webfryes 3 years ago
You obviously know jack shit about science. So why do you make such ludicrous statements?
ricoatheist 3 years ago
Christians songs is sould winning ministry go on and God bless us all, just continue your work and do it for the Lord Jesus for they are not in vain.
edviaron 3 years ago
The invisible things of Him from the beginning of creation are clearly seen by the things that are made, even His eternal power and Godhead! So that man is without excuse!
Dudes, you better think again before speaking your foolishness...You have an appointment with death. The Creator is the one who wrote the Ten Commandments in the stone and will judge you from them. Repent...turn from your sin ...kiss the Son (Jesus Christ) lest He be angry and you perish from the way of the living!
jrlafay 3 years ago
Amen, brother!
georgeamarcelo 3 years ago
Eww, christian music.
TheThomaswastaken 3 years ago
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rofl xD
eviloizo 3 years ago
aaaaaaa i hate christian music aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
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aaaaaaaaaaaaaa i peed my pans oh wet
anzuki 3 years ago
That Bible quote was written by primitive ignoramuses trying to explain their world without the benefit of science. Cram it up your fairytale ass.
FreeRangePancake 3 years ago
1Co 1:20-21 "Where is the wise? where is the scribe? where is the disputer of this world? hath not God made foolish the wisdom of this world? For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe."
georgeamarcelo 3 years ago
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3Ki 4:23:17 "Go fucketh thyself, said Jesus to the donkey-brain Pharisee. I emergeth from the pussy of the Virgin. The fetid afterbirth washeth you like the vagina-juice of the Jezebel. Walk forth and speweth thee not the bile of the Bible. Know thee not why thy universe is here? Know thee not any science? Enjoy thee to play the part of the moron? Realize thee that thou soundeth like a retarded jackass when thou quoteth thy Bible?
FreeRangePancake 3 years ago
2Pe 3:3-5 "Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts, And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation. For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water:"
georgeamarcelo 3 years ago
Lol.
TheThomaswastaken 3 years ago
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What a fucktard song. Couldn't listen for more than a couple of seconds.
If the video was going to claim that all the natural stuff you are showing had something to do with a perverted fairytale "God" you're a fucktard also.
FreeRangePancake 3 years ago
John 15:20 "Remember the word that I said unto you, The servant is not greater than his Lord. If they have persecuted Me, they will also persecute you; if they have kept My saying, they will keep yours also."
georgeamarcelo 3 years ago
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Luke: 16:14 "And Jesus lowered his loincloth and buttfucketh georgeamarcelo a dozen times, then Jesus re-raised his loincloth after the buttfucketh, and walked on Walter. Later Jesus pondered the earlier buttfucketh and searched out georgeamarcelo again but only saw a goat and buttfuckethed the goat while THINKING of georgeamarcel instead. Amen."
FreeRangePancake 3 years ago
I checked, that's in there. If it's not in your version your reading the wrong translation.
TheThomaswastaken 3 years ago
To quote Douglas Adams: It is enough for me that the garden is beautiful without there having to be fairies at the bottom of it. There are no fairies at the bottom of the universe no matter how many times you sing it mate... have a scientific day.
Drweavil 3 years ago
Thank you for your feedback.
georgeamarcelo 3 years ago
I didnt like it. Just saying.
holymoose69 3 years ago
Thanks for your feedback.
georgeamarcelo 3 years ago
Your welcome.
holymoose69 3 years ago
Music and literature proves nothing. FAIL
Unclesamslair 3 years ago
For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe. For the Jews require a sign, and the Greeks seek after wisdom but we preach Christ crucified, unto the Jews a stumblingblock, and unto the Greeks foolishness but unto them which are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God, and the wisdom of God. Because the foolishness of God is wiser than men and the weakness of God is stronger than men.
georgeamarcelo 3 years ago
God I LOVE this video! "Like minded" we are indeed. I'm so glad you did this.
sherriedale1 3 years ago
Thank you!
georgeamarcelo 3 years ago
Its 3am, I am doing an assignment on the glory of God which is in for tomorrow...
I am so grateful for this song right now and the reference was so helpful.
Wonderful person!!! Thank you!!!!
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Moonflower4Christ 4 years ago
Your welcome. Sounds like a very last minute thing. I thank the Lord that it helped you.
Mat 11:28 "Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest."
God bless,
George
georgeamarcelo 4 years ago
Nice video, wonderful pics. thanks for the sentiment.
thanks to the scientist also for providing this information.
cjunk351 4 years ago
Thanks. Some of the pics were from the Hubble Space Telescope.
georgeamarcelo 4 years ago
That first photo is it in the philippines?My ex is from manila.Kalaocan or however it is spelled.She's in Florida with my kids.Anyways loved the video.Thanks for sharing.
jachin41 4 years ago
Yes, the first photo is the top of Mt. Apo, the tallest mountain in the Philippines. It is spelled Caloocan. Glad you liked it! God bless you brother!
georgeamarcelo 4 years ago
Sir George,
This is very wonderful video :) Glad to view it... :)
Genesis 1:1 " In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth".
I'm glad because many children know this verse.
Just hold on and keep on shining, 1 Cor. 15:58
God Bless,
Aldrin
aldrin051088 4 years ago
Thanks.
georgeamarcelo 4 years ago