Studio Files: Drum Editing in Digidesign Pro Tools

[markjamesmason]

I thought that this video would be unhelpful, but there are few work flow things you used that I never really thought about. Thanks.

[DJyorkei]

if you want Artifacts, go ahead and use elastic. You could basically Quantize it like MIDI although one would refer this as just another "elastic audio" technique

[brunotheking55]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOB USE ELASTIC

[studiofiles]

@brunotheking55 Um. Huh? If you want your tracks to sound like you used elastic audio, then by all means.... This technique is for fine tuning otherwise very groovy drum tracks. Also: tab to transient is very useful, but it's also a good idea to LISTEN and DECIDE rather that just automatically applying what the computer algorithm SAYS is the beat.

Just sayin' :-)

[brunotheking55]

@studiofiles  TY MAN

[LastDayStudios]

@brunotheking55 I know you feel a litlle....like a NOOB right now right.>? LOL .....This guy is clearly a PRO.....There are only three or four primary users who go in depth when displaying tutorials....this guy is #2 on my list.

[MiguelAngel2007]

@brunotheking55 I guess it just depends on what kind of precision you prefer. Elastic Audio will make it sound more "perfect". I prefer Elastic Audio, its less time consuming, but both methods a great.

[djveto]

dog ever hear of tab to transient?

[johnyyrawk]

I forgot to mention that Pro studio time is expensive and re-recording is not always practical as this type of editing can save you plenty of hours on drums.

[johnyyrawk]

@ArnBucketeer I can definitely see your point of view, but it really depends on an individuals preference. The loss of the "human" groove to the song may be unbearable, however the majority of the populous doesn't hear these little nuances. I also live by the "code" of play to a click and get it right, but some GREAT drummers just can't hit perfect to a click. They can be close, but not quite perfect. And even in the days of tape, those near perfect drums tracks had to be sliced and fixed.

[ArnBucketeer]

Wow. This is highly unethical.

[johnyyrawk]

this is professional... you obviously don't know the industry or how to achieve "professional" sound. not unethical... practical :)

[ArnBucketeer]

@johnyyrawk. I know the industry enough to know that it's unethical. Re record is more practical and should be the first choice rather than doing this. The drums is the pillar of the song and the band. It shouldn't be treated this way. How about we all go back to tapes and see if you can do this?

[blaforge1]

@ArnBucketeer hows that? if it sounds good, use it!

[studiofiles]

^^Connor explained this above

There are lots of times when beat detective would not be preferable. If your drummer has chops, then you're just fixing a few off-time hits and you don't want to kill the "human subtlety" of the groove.

[vg543]

so true...the human element should be retained as much as possible.

[JeremyPaulCarroll]

In the last part of this where he is cloning a snare drum strike, there is a better way of doing it: Instead of randomly selecting the start point of the copy and paste, you can use the 'Tab to Transient' (hit the tab key) to find the rise of the snare transient. You can then shift-drag to select the strike. Copy it. When you want to paste the new strike, use the same 'Tab to Transient' to find the rise of the strike you want to replace. Paste it there and it will be perfectly in time.

[smithcok]

^^indeed

I chose not to go into tab to transients because it added an extra step of explaining (making sure the pref is on, etc...). I thought about leaving TtT for another video. But you are definitely correct, that would line up the transients. Thanks

[smithcok]

@samgulana

Beat detective is very cool indeed. However, a lot of times I prefer to edit manually. That way I can keep the general groove of the track, but still fix things that are way out of time. On certain source material though, Beat Detective is preferable.

[samguaiana]

i would just use beat detective.

[killthepixelnow]

AcousticKid14, he's editing drum hits so they fit perfectly on time. After the position is correct is necessary to crossfade those piece to avoid undesirable beeps (you'll find out when you edit your drums) Luck.

[AcousticKid14]

I'm saving up for that I hope it's worth it cause I didn't understand what exactly you were doing in this video