It's seems to me Ruckman feeds on the steady "amens" of his loyal followers. Their eyes are spinning under the mesmerizing spirit of his arrogant preaching. There's quite a difference between making or proving your "own" point, as opposed to humbly but boldly proclaiming God's message. A lot of fundamentalists have this problem. They fail to see they have digressed to the point of building their own little kingdom on earth. "The servant of the Lord must not strive but be gentle" (Apostle Paul).
@peterpulpitpounder Listen U gentle Bible pervert,U R a devil,The Devil in the garden was gentle with Eve as well.U R not going to deceive me,U perverted crook.PSALMS 138:2 I WILL WORSHIP TOWARD THY HOLY TEMPLE,AND PRAISE THY NAME FOR THY LOVINGKINDNESS AND FOR THY TRUTH;FOR THOU HAST MAGNIFIED THY WORD ABOVE THY NAME. God magnifies His Word above His own names,God will never contradict what He says in the Holy Bible.MARK 13:33 HEAVEN AND EARTH SHALL PASS AWAY;BUT MY WORDS SHALL NOT PASS AWAY.
In a demented sort of way, you are walking in the footsteps of Cain. You have your a wheelbarrow full of vegetables (pride, that is), and are pushing it all over town for all to see. Your position is wrong, and all can do is throw insults around. The servant of the Lord must not strive but be gentle. This is not some devilish principle, but that which is found right in the Bible. What? Is that not found in your Bible? I thought you were using the KJV?
@peterpulpitpounder You are the Bible pervert and a child of the Devil, to Rebel against the Word of God KJV, and pervert the right ways of the Lord. ACTS 13:10 AND SAID,O FULL OF ALL SUBTILTY AND ALL MISCHIEF,THOU CHILD OF THE DEVIL,THOU ENEMY OF ALL RIGHTEOUSNESS,WILT THOU NOT CEASE TO PERVERT THE RIGHT WAYS OF THE LORD ? Shut your filthy mouth about my walk you scum. I dont give a flip what your filthy mouth says about me. My Authority is the Word of God, not some Fool like you are.
You just love to hear yourself talk, don't you? Your "meat" is not to do the will of your Father in heaven, but to tout your own position and affirm your own righteousness. Sadly, you are blind to the error of your ways. No, your authority is that of men, and that's why you speak in such an arrogant and corrupt manner, calling another believer a scum, idiot and infidel, etc. Yup, you sound just like a modern day Pharisee to me, condeming the just while defending yourself.
@peterpulpitpounder You another believer ? Ha,Ha,Ha !!! You have nothing to do with God, you Hypocrite. JOHN 8:47 HE THAT IS OF GOD HEARETH GOD'S WORDS;YE THEREFORE HEAR THEM NOT ,BECAUSE YE ARE NOT OF GOD.
Once again, you speak as fool. I'm not a believer because I don't agree with your KJV only position? How ridiculous. Boy, you really have been poisoned. I'm a salvation by grace, justified, blood bought, chosen in Him, adopted, sanctified, sealed and looking for the blessed hope kind of person. For you to deem me an infidel only proves to all reading this sight that you quite full of yourself. I wish you were full of humility, your words speak otherwise.
@peterpulpitpounder With another Satanic perversions which are another gospel's, you are not under grace, you are under curse. GALATIANS 1:6 I MARVEL THAT YE ARE SO SOON REMOVED FROM HIM THAT CALLED YOU INTO THE GRACE OF CHRIST UNTO ANOTHER GOSPEL;You are removed from grace.V.7WHICH IS NOT ANOTHER;BUT THERE BE SOME THAT TROUBLE YOU,AND WOULD PERVERT THE GOSPEL OF CHRIST.With your Satanic bibles U R full of trouble,and U R Bible pervert.V.8BUT THOUGH WE,OR AN ANGEL FROM HEAVEN,PREACH ANY OTHER...
@peterpulpitpounder GALATIANS 1:8 BUT THOUGHT WE, OR AN ANGEL FROM HEAVEN, PREACH ANY OTHER GOSPEL UNTO YOU THAN THAT WHICH WE HAVE PREACHED UNTO YOU, LET HIM BE ACCURSED. You are cursed and heading to HELL. You looking for the blessed hope, U must be joking, U R a joke, and a Hypocrite. JOB 8:13,14 SO ARE THE PATHS OF ALL THAT FORGET GOD; AND THE HYPOCRITE'S HOPE SHALL PERISH; WHOSE HOPE SHALL BE CUT OFF AND WHOSE TRUST SHALL BE A SPIDER'S WEB.
You are now guilty of wrecklessly quoting the word of God. Like a crazy man with sword in hand, you take joy in hacking anyone or anything who disagrees with your personal thoughts. And now it's Galatians 1:8? What a joke. I'm quite well versed in the realm of soteriology, and with the pure, unadulterated Gospel of grace. Your charges are groundless and totally motivated by your pride and insecurity.
@peterpulpitpounder MATTHEW 16:18 ... GET THEE BEHIND ME, SATAN; THOU ART AN OFFENCE UNTO ME; FOR THOU SAVOUREST NOT THE THINGS THAT BE OF GOD,BUT THOSE THAT BE OF MEN.
Were you looking in a mirror when you typed these words? (Ha, ha). More wreckless quotation and application of the Scriptures you claim to know and love. You really ought to learn how to more effectively use the Sword of the Spirit, because all you're doing is hacking away with a blindfold over your eyes. Nice try, but your words are impotent due to your lack of humility, discretion and sound exegesis. Are you eight years old, or what? I feel like I'm talking to a child.
Yes, and you are applying the words of God in a wreckless and unwarranted manner. It's very typical of people like yourself who don't think but simply repeat what has been pounded in their heads. The Mormons do this all the time, convinced they are right. You speak insults, accuse me of being unsaved, tell me I'm going to hell, etc. and for no valid reason whatsoever. Yup, a modern day Pharisee is what you are, and sadly blind to the foul spirit that poisons your heart.
From Wikipedia - Ruckman also believes in UFOs, blue, black and gray aliens. Further, he believes the CIA has implanted brain transmitters in children, old people, and African-Americans and that the agency operates underground alien breeding facilities. In 1997, Ruckman claimed that Attorney General Janet Reno had drawn up a list with his name on it and predicted that the "Government Mafia" would make a hit on him during "the next two or three years.]"
Ruckman is poisoned with extremism & hate. He's a spiriitual tightrope walker with half a pole in his hand. And it's sad how many "Amens" are thrown in his direction.
Perverted unsaved rebel? Typical response from one who can't think for himself. Sorry, but I'm justified by faith in the shed blood of Christ, sealed with the Spirit unto the day of redemption, and among those who have been adopted into God's spiritual family.
@peterpulpitpounder Dr. Ruckman is one of the best Bible preachers and teachers. If you pick on this man of God who fights with this perverted Satanic world, and perverted Satanic religions you must be a devil yourself. I'll ask you pervert one Q. are you saved ?
You need to cut the strings hanging off your arms and legs, because a puppet you are, conditioned and programmed to speak and to declare the teachings of men. Instead of really grapping with the issues at hand, all you seek to do is question my salvation is some unwarranted, ridiculous fashion. I'm quite aware of the many facets of Biblical soteriology. The greater question is: Has Ruckam ever read James 3:13-17 or 2 Timothy 2:24-26. He's quite full of himself. That's obvious.
I know plenty of excellent Bible teachers who take issue with Ruckman on a number of fronts, and these men are meek, gentle, and not caught up in the "striving" that you seem to love so much These men aren't pushing their own agenda, or doctrine, nor are they confident in the flesh, etc. Your language indicates to me that you are not only completely disjointed from the Spriit of God, but you are more in the image of Ruckman than Christ, which is quite sad indeed.
@peterpulpitpounder Listen you lovely Moron, I will ask you again, please tell me which perversion which you rely on is decent and valid ?? Dont be scared, just give me other perversions name.It's funny how you rubbish the Word of God KJV, and cant give me perversion's which you follow, you nice and loving Hypocrite.
You don't deserve further discussion, having totally abandoned sound exegetical skills in originally and wrongly applying the Scriptures. You have yet to answer my questions. And your reasoning is flawed in thinking the KJV is somehow the "only" decent translation. Until you have your brain washed from the teachings of men, you'll never think straight. And your course language also speaks volumes regarding the spirit of which you are. You are clearly not Spirit led.
@peterpulpitpounder Yes, you led by the Devil, with your Satanic perversions. That's why you never quote the scripture you pervert, So what Satanic perversion do you follow? KJV is the Spirit of God,which is the Word of God,your Satanic perversions is the spirit of men,which corrupted the Word of God. JOHN 6:63 IT IS THE SPIRIT THAT QUICKENETH;THE FLESH PROFITETH NOTHING;THE WORDS THAT I SPEAK UNTO YOU,THEY ARE SPIRIT,AND THEY ARE LIFE.
Let by the Devil? Hmm, how strange a claim this is, seeing my language and spirit are Christ-like, rather than Ruckman-like. You are again wrong. I'm a blood bought, justified, adopted, sealed, filled and gifted child of God, and yet you persist on putting me in the devil's camp, just because I don't agree with you on the KJV only position. You're nothing but a moder day pharisee, full of yourself and lacking in true character.
You worship a translation. That's the crux of the whole matter. The men who produced the original KJV desired to put the Word of God in the language of the common man, and even included optional renderings (when the precise meaning was not certain). They never considered their work to be the only and final treatment. You have unfortunately been brainwashed by the KJV onlyism movement, which is really quite a silly position.
Perverted and unsaved because I support and condone Christ-likeness instead of Ruckman-likeness? Am I talking to an 8 year old, or what? I mean, you have yet say anything with theological substance. Instead you prefer to hurl insults without any true warrant. Let's see some sound exegetical skills, of which you obviously lack. Someone disagrees with you and you immediately call him a pervert. You must be a very proud and insecure person.
Not bashing, just asking an honest question: What about Job 21:24 where the KJV says that 'His breasts are full of milk, and his bones are moistened with marrow.'? What about Unicorn and Satyr? Please help me out with regard to these issues. I have read a few responses, but they appear as the 'grasping at straws' type of "answers". God Bless!
@taztef U have 2 understand that in JOB21:24it's about dead,V.22SHALL ANY TEACH GOD KNOWLEDGE?SEEING HE JUDGETH THOSE THAT ARE HIGH.V.23ONE DIETH IN HIS FULL STRENGTH,BEING WHOLLY AT EASE AND QUIET.It's like one dieth in his full top condition,full with milk and juicy bones.V.25AND ANOTHER DIETH IN THE BITTERNESS OF HIS SOUL,AND NEVER EATETH WITH PLEASURE.And another bitter and grumpy,full of shit.V.26THEY SHALL LIE DOWN ALIKE IN THE DUST,AND THE WORMS SHALL COVER THEM.Note:bothcovered withworms
I'll try to help you with your question, although I'm not a KJV only extremist. I do believe the Bible is the Word of God. Can you be more specific with your inquiry regarding Job 21:24?
The New Testament alone has been translated into an estimated 2,018 different languages - none of which use the King's English. I smell Fundamental Baptist.
You, sir, with all due respect, are arrogant. You really have no other reply than that unchristian statement, really? That's it? Now, who is really the FOOL here? Very disappointing.
Yes, the Word of God has been translated in many languages, and that's something we should rejoice in! And God isn't concerned that anyone learn English so they can read the KJV version either. What an extreme and radical position.
When Christ came to this earthas Messiah,the (known) world was under roman rule.Romans conquered lands and those people were compelled to learn the language used by the roman empire.Today most of the world either uses the english language as thier primary language or their secondary language.That is a very interesting thought. I thank God for the kjv and the men who translated it with the best of intentions for all mankind. They did their best for God and man, not for money. I am thankful!
I've listened to (excuse me) MORONS like this all my life..basically, no foundation of truth and ...when confronted...guys like this resort to name calling and try to end the debate. KJ "onlyism" is full of fantasy and fiction. You believe this guy...you might as well be a monkey and believe in evolution.
@HaRdzstylerR The King James is a very good translation (there are poor translations, by the way). Personally, I prefer the 1599 Geneva Bible. I also enjoy the NIV. Might I suggest some research here rather than simply taking a man's circular reasoning as the truth?
@hldnoqtr First the KJV is not good translation,it's the Perfect Word of God.Second the Geneva Bible is the Word of God,but it's not Perfect,the Bible had to be written under the Authority of a king.ECCL.8:4WHERE THE WORD OF A KING IS,THERE IS POWER;AND WHO MAY SAY UNTO HIM,WHAT DOEST THOU?Third NIV is Satanic perversion it's a COPYRIGHT just a dead book,the gospel's of men which are cursed by God GALATIANS1:6-12KJV.NIV is Satanic lying book which lies about God,and those who follow it is liars.
@HaRdzstylerR Sir, you need to learn to respect God's Word. It amazes me how KJV onlyists claim to be so strong on the authority of the Bible, etc, yet don't care to respect it in what it says. Ecc 8:4 has nothing to do with translations. there is nothing in the text to say it does. You must "rightly divide the word of truth." Look @ context and find the authorial intent. That would say that the the Word did not have power until 1611. Also the KJ did have a (C) it just ran out. Do ur research.
@centeredonchrist The Word always had power, before 1611 it just the KJV is the perfect Word of God and the cover of this Holy Bible is perfect too. Ecc.8:4 has nothing to do with translations, but it has to do with the King James who is the real King. And dont you dare open your filthy mouth against the King, you wouldn do it in those days, you hypocrite.
@peterpulpitpounder Listen Stupid.ECCL.8:4WHERE THE WORD OF A KING IS,THERE IS POWER;AND WHO MAY SAY UNTO HIM,WHAT DOEST THOU?The word of a king is on the front cover of the Holy Bible. That's why this Holy Bible is full of God's power.Which is Authorized by the Holy Ghost with king's name on the front cover. Dummies like you wouldn't have the brains to understand it. What ever is not according to the Word of God, I dont care what Dr.Ruckman believes.Your dumb theory U can keep it to yourself.
You sound like a Ruckman clone. I suggest Christ-likeness instead. Anyone with any exegetical skills at all will tell you that Ec. 8:4 has NOTHING to do with the KJV. Your response is not only laughable but extremely pathetic, to say the least. You just don't realize of what spirit you are, and it's certainly not in line with Galatians 5:22-23 (Your spirit is describe a bit later one in the text).
@peterpulpitpounder MATTHEW 16:23 ...GET THEE BEHIND ME,SATAN:THOU ART AN OFFENCE UNTO ME: FOR THOU SAVOUREST NOT THE THINGS THAT BE OF GOD,BUT THOSE THAT BE OF MEN.
Once again, your response is not only laughable, but pathetically sad. And I'm not surprised by it, for it is quite ,common among those who operate in the flesh. If you are willing to honestly examine yourself, you might just catch a glimpse of your carnality. Ec. 8:4 has NOTHING to do with the KJV. Why not humbly admit that you failed to do your homework? That's really what this is all about. Stop being a Ruckmanite and start acting like a true child of God.
That it? That's the extent of your exegetical skill? It's no wonder people mock the Christian faith, with so many poor examples like yourself running around spouting off groundless claims. Ec. 8:4 is about respecting and honoring an "earthly" monarch, just as 1 Peter 2:17 commands. It has nothing to do with the KJV translation. You've been duped. Just admit it and take the first step down the road of repentance.
@peterpulpitpounder Listen IDIOT, Where the word of a king is, the word of a king is on the front cover of the Holy Bible, you are an IDIOT. That's why you should respect and honor this Holy Bible. ECCL. 10:20 CURSE NOT THE KING,NO NOT IN THY THOUGHT;...Which means dont you dare to open your filthy mouth about this Holy Bible, understood ? You dumb NUT.
Poor exegetical skills on your part, combined with a large dose of sinful pride. Did you attend the "private cubicle of self-interpretation seminary" or what? The word "king" in Ec. 8:4 has NOTHING to do with the KJV Bible, it's fabrication, or with anyone involved in its fabrication. It's like saying John 3:16 makes reference to the New World Translation because it contains the word "world." That's pretty wreckless and unfounded reasoning, and it only confirms your ignorance.
@peterpulpitpounder ECCL.10:20 CURSE NOT THE KING, NOT IN THY THOUGHT... I dont care about king of England, king of worms or any other king's who has nothing to do with God. I only will honor king's of the Bible, who served the Lord, and all who are the king's of the kingdom of God. All other unsaved king's can go plumb to the Devil. And you are Bible pervert, now get thee behind me Satan.
You're still avoiding the issue by rattling off a bunch of nothingness. You're so full of yourself. In fact, you've got the snot of pride and self-sufficiency running profusely out of both of your nostrils. Calling me the Devil and Satan. What a joke. You words and foul spirit reveal to all the true source of your message, and it can't possibly be from above.
@peterpulpitpounder For saying anything against the Word of God which is the KJV, is the Blasphemy, Blasphemers will burn in Hell, those who lie about God's Truth. And those who lie about God's Truth are the Bible pervert's.Bible pervert's are the children of the Devil, this is the bunch to which you belong. ACTS 13:10 AND SAID,O FULL OF ALL SUBTILTY AND ALL MISCHIEF,THOU CHILD OF THE DEVIL,THOU ENEMY OF ALL RIGHTEOUSNESS,WILT THOU NOT CEASE TO PERVERT THE RIGHT WAYS OF THE LORD?
For starters, the KJV is not the only decent and valid translation. You have been so brainwashed on the KJV only a position that you can't even think straight. Oh, and the original premise of this whole conversation had to do with my pointing out that the Ecclesiastes passage you quote had NOTHING to do with the KJV. And now I'm guilty of blaspheming God because of good exegetical skills? You sound so much like a 1st century Pharisee, you know, the one's who sought to kill Jesus?
@peterpulpitpounder Ohhh,really?I have one Holy Bible which is the Word of God KJV.And U have 100 perversions,and U calling me a Pharisee?Wow,U know what dumb Hypocrite?MATT.23:13BUT WOE UNTO YOU,SCRIBES AND PHARISEES,HYPOCRITES!...Scribes it's this Pharisees,and Hypocrites with 100 bibles.KJV is not the only decent and valid translation.Ohhh,really?U perverted Hypocrite,tell me which is another one is decent and valid?4 your information KJV is the Word of God from cover 2 cover.Kapish?
Yes, your spirit is driven by human pride, and so you are much like the Pharisees that condemned Jesus without warrant. You "think" the KJV only position is valid, when it's not. Yes, the KJV is a good translation, but it's not the only one. By the way, the original 1611 translation contained marginal notes entertaining other possible renderings of certain texts, totally dismantling your lame position.
@hldnoqtr The NIV copyright is owned by Ruppert Murdock who also owns the copyright to Satan's Bible. Ruppert Murdock's pastor is the heretic Rick Warren, New Ager and self admitted CFR (Illuminati) member. The NIV is missing, as I stopped counting at 40 verses, and is based on the Latin Vulgate besides. The NIV Is a Bible from Satan....the word needs to be out.
@hldnoqtr I am a white boy...lol So If I interject the word Boule society does that mean I now African American and a member of the boule. When one interjects the word "Illuminati" it means since you can't figure it out, it means I'm talking about Illuminati and not referring to them as the Mickey Mouse club. Now, If I were to interject the words of "Mickey Mouse Club" did it dawn on you that I would be talking about the Micky Mouse Club....lol.... you people are a hoot
@hldnoqtr NIV Is satanic owned by Ruppert Murdock. Ruppert Murdock, owns Satan's Bible..also. Rick Warren, heretic and Illuminati member, CFR member is his pastor.
It hurts really, really bad when error is pointed out in one's life, and it hurts even worse when you humbly allow the Lord to extract it from you soul. It's like a surgeon going down deep into your flesh to remove that which doesn't belong in you system, but the end is sweet. The KJV only position is not a spiritual position, regardless of how "good" a translation it is.
You KJV only proponents really fascinate me. That's about the end of it though..I'm fascinated by a house of mirrors at the carnival as well. Have you seriously taken a look at the history of scripture? Erasmus, Augustine, Luther, Arminius, Pelagius? What was the word of God before the KJV? Have you ever bothered to read the 1599 Geneva Bible? All this KJV only crap makes me want to puke.
This is great I finally found a preacher that is REAL,Im not a religous man but after I started watching only because my wife was,We had to yfind him on the net he didnt even ask for $_ imagine that religion with out begging @ the end of program or selling a book .
This is madness! The KJV is almost being equated with Christ Himself. At the second comming will there be a giant KJV comming down from heaven or will there be the Eternal Logos, Jesus Christ?
The KJV is a good translation of the Bible, but a translation is all that it is! What about other languages? the monoglot ignorance is quite amusing.
It would be good to note the the OT was first written in Hebrew and the New Testament in Greek --- not middle english!
Ah, I see that the "DOC" has joined the conversation and blessed us with "You have committed THAT fallacy and this fallacy and that fallacy and this fallacy." Oh boy, makes me sick. Is anybody else tired of hearing, "Do a google search on..." Haha, give me a break. Doctor H, do you have anything better to do that pick on people that actually BELIEVE the book they have in their hand? Go play with the other kids.
@doctorh2005 What I am saying is that the KJV is the Perfect Word of God it's the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ. And all other English perversions is inspired by the Devil and there gospels of men, which are cursed. GALATIANS1:7,8 WHICH IS NOT ANOTHER;BUT THERE BE SOME THAT TROUBLE YOU,AND WOULD PERVERT THE GOSPEL OF CHRIST. BUT THOUGH WE,OR AN ANGEL FROM HEAVEN,PREACH ANY OTHER GOSPEL UNTO YOU THAN THAT WHICH WE HAVE PREACHED UNTO YOU,LET HIM BE ACCURSED. All other gospels are cursed by God.
@doctorh2005 KJV is not Copyright you cannot Copyright God's Word. All other perversions Copyright which means they all written by men. Obviously you never read KJV that's why you dont know. And when you open first pages of the Bible it says TRANSLATED OUT OF THE ORIGINAL TONGUES no other bibles dare to say that. And it also says NOT ONE WORD HAS BEEN ALTERED,ADDED,OR DELETED, no other bibles dare to say that ether.
So now the fact that something is not "copyright" makes it perfect truth???
DARWIN'S "ORIGIN OF SPECIES" has no copyright either!!! Does that make it perfect tooo??? lmao.
A quote from an internet article.... " In the United Kingdom the Authorized King James Version (KJV) REMAINS IN CROWN COPYRIGHT under laws which predate any modern copyright legislation.
So now the fact something is translated out of someone's language makes it automatic truth? Darwin's ORIGIN OF SPECIES has been translated into many languages (out of the original tongues) - so I suppose that makes it truth too.
The KJV was NOT translated from the original manuscripts.
AGAIN.
TELL ME WHERE IT SAYS THE KJV IS THE ONLY PERFECT INSPIRED TRANSLATION WHY WHICH TO JUDGE ALL OTHERS, AND THAT ALL OTHERS ARE FALSE!
@doctorh2005 KJV called AUTHORIZED, no other perversions dare to call themselves Authorized because thy authorized by the Devil. And this AUTHORITY is from God. It's AUTHORIZED by the Holy Ghost. 2PETER1:20KNOWING THIS FIRST,THAT NO PROPHECY OF THE SCRIPTURE IS OF ANY PRIVATE INTERPRETATION. God commands to not touch the scriptures to pervert them in other bibles. V.21FOR THE PROPHECY CAME NOT IN OLD TIME BY THE WILL OF MAN;BUT HOLY MEN OF GOD SPAKE AS THEY WERE MOVED BY THE HOLY GHOST.
/// KJV called AUTHORIZED, no other perversions dare to call themselves Authorized ///
Once again , that is a FALLACY "It's-true-simply-because-it-SAYS-its true".
Many books in the world claim to be true - such as, the Koran, the WatchTower, the Pearl of Great Price.... so you're saying THEY are true aswell because they "say so"???
/// And this AUTHORITY is from God. ///
NOPE - that "authorization" in the KJV is from KING JAMES himself.
/// 2PETER1:20KNOWING THIS FIRST,THAT NO PROPHECY OF THE SCRIPTURE IS OF ANY PRIVATE INTERPRETATION ///
AGAIN, that verse says NOTHING about the "King James Version".
AGAIN, find me credible evidence that actually says the KJV is the only inspired translation and that all others are false... APART from the retarded excuse that the KJV just "says so"!!
@doctorh2005 So you saying that KJV is not the Word of God.I go to English church I pray in English,I read English Bible.So now you tell me which one should I have as the Pure Word of God.PROVERBS 30:5 EVERY WORD OF GOD IS PURE;HE IS A SHIELD UNTO THEM THAT PUT THEIR TRUST IN HIM.Tell me which bible should I trust,which bible is every Word of God,and which one is pure. All those comments from you are carnal as you are,you didn't give me one verse from the Bible for your perverted argument.....
/// So you saying that KJV is not the Word of God ///
Now you are committing the "Putting-Words-In-Mouth" Fallacy.
I say "the KING JAMES VERSION is not the only version Christians can read, and also that the KING JAMES VERSION is not perfect, but has TRANSLATIONAL mistakes and TRANSLATIONAL errors".
/// I go to English church I pray in English,I read English Bible ///
@doctorh2005 You are very Stupid man, I ask you a Q. which bible do you want me to use ? You are big FOOL, KJV has errors, give me one ? You are original dumb Bible pervert. KJV is not the version christians can use. You FOOL, give me verse from the Bible where it says that. You telling me to compare all translations, you are the dummest Fool I ever come across. Originals are pure word of God, do you have them ? you are sick. KJV is Perfect,all other perversions is made for a Devil's like U. R
/// You are very Stupid... You are original dumb Bible pervert... ///
Google search the words "Ad Hominem" - coz thats what you've just done.
/// You are big FOOL... You are the dummest Fool I ever come across... ///
Jesus said "whoever says YOU FOOL will be in danger of hellfire". You are a murderer if you call someone a fool. Oh, I suppose that verse isnt in the KJV???? (MATTHEW 5:21-22). By your verbal abuse you simply prove are of your father, the DEVIL.
@doctorh2005 Oh,now you trying to use the bible and hoping for KJV to be on your side.You just show how dumb you are about the scriptures,that's why you pick on the Pure Word of God KJV,because you are Bible Pervert.MATT.5:22 BUT I SAY UNTO YOU,THAT WHOSOEVER IS ANGRY WITH HIS BROTHER WITHOUT A CAUSE...which means with out a reason.My reason to call you a FOOL, because you are crook.And your Satanic perversion like NIV omits WITH OUT A CAUSE.Jesus was angry,so they say that Jesus is judged.WOW !
@doctorh2005 First your Satanic ESV is Copyright,Second there is no were in the Bible says to follow English standard version,Who is English?What a Satanic name to call a bible.King James is completed under the King.ECCL.8:4 WHERE THE WORD OF A KING IS,THERE IS POWER;AND WHO MAY SAY UNTO HIM,WHAT DOEST THOU?You have a lot to learn baby.I dont google nothing,I am Bible believing Christian,you can google your crap yourself. MATT.23:17YE FOOLS AND BLIND;V.19YE FOOLS AND BLIND; U.R Fool and blind...
No you are not - if you believed your Bible you would NEVER call your brother a "fool" or even REVILE your neighbour with such language - REVILERS WILL NOT INHERIT THE KINGDOM OF GOD - you are not a Christian.
Repent and trust in the Saviour before its too late!
@doctorh2005 Paul called other Christians "fools." Christ called them fools, David called atheists fools. "WITHOUT A CAUSE," is the thing, see. If you don't have that, you have nonsense, you CONDEMN the apostle PAUL! Another reason new versions are nothing but crap!
/// Paul called other Christians "fools." Christ called them fools, David called atheists fools. ///
When they mention "fools" they are talking about MORALITY - not INTELLECTUALITY - if you call someone an "intellectual" fool, you are MURDERER at heart.
The Bible says "REVILERS" (people who speak abusive language to another man) WILL NOT INHERIT THE KINGDOM OF GOD"
When you call someone a "fool" as HaRdzstyleR calls people, you are a REVILER.
@doctorh2005 Hahahaha, and double ha! MY salvation is not based on what I DO, it is already finished at the cross. I am saved, and I trust alone for my salvation. You have committed the "not reading your bible" fallacy. Google it. Ha, just joking. Inherit means rewards, NOT eternal life. Read your bible, you backslidden calvanist!
True, but "Salvation is of the LORD", not only in the ACCOMPLISHMENT of it, but also in the APPLICATION of it (yes I'm utterly against Arminianism & Decisionism). When God saves a man, He gives that man a NEW HEART with NEW DESIRES, so that all of a sudden he will no longer DESIRE to do the things he used to do - e.g. REVILING, calling people fools. God "CAUSES" that man to walk in His laws (read EZEKIEL 36:26-27)
You've just committed the "twisting the Word" Fallacy (2PETER3:16) - ANY teaching that goes against LORDSHIP Salvation is heresy - e.g. Easy-Believism, Carnal Christianity and Decisionism - also the Free Grace movement s heresy too.
/// backslidden calvanist! ///
Calvin would actually agree with me, if you bothered to read his Institutes. A man's lifestyle shows whether or not he really HAS the gift of saving faith or not.
@doctorh2005 show where I committed the "twisted the word" fallacy. Show me, or you else you committed the "..........." fallacy. haha, you fill in the blank, your good at it. Inherit the kingdom of God is NOT salvation, heaven or hell. It is earning and losing rewards THERE.
/// show where I committed the "twisted the word" fallacy. ///
Dispensationalism is only true if you twist and wrest the Word of God - I have given you plenty of arguments that Dispensationalism is false - and will continue doing so.
@doctorh2005 You misquoted me....again. You are good at it, just like your hero White. I said "Inheriting the Kingdom of God is not salvation." Matthew 25:34, "inherit the kingdom" is referring to the physical kingdom of heaven. And yes, they will.
@jondabill Listen brother, this dumb doctor is a perverted FOOL, I wouldn't waist my time on this Crook any more. For him to reject the Perfect Word of God KJV, and follow his Satanic perversions says it all about this Lunatic. This crook is a snake, MATT.23:33 YE SERPENTS,YE GENERATION OF VIPERS,HOW CAN YE ESCAPE THE DAMNATION OF HELL ?
@HaRdzstylerR I agree. I am done talking with him officially, simply because there is TOO much at odds to even have hope of agreeing. He is a Calvinist, for one. I am certainly NOT! He is not a bible student. I am a dispensationalist. I am a bible believer, he is an orginal autographs believer, even though he has never seen them or heard them. "Answer thou NOT a fool according to his folly." He has too many to rebuke and correct. Time to move on and KICK OFF THE DUST from my feet.
@doctorh2005 FOR WE SHALL SEE HIM AS HE IS.And He is the same as the KJV which is the Word of Living God.HEBREWS 13:8 JESUS CHRIST THE SAME YESTERDAY,AND TO DAY,AND FOR EVER.He is the same in the Bible,and the same when I will see Him, and I will be the same as He is. MATT.5:48 BE YE THEREFORE PERFECT,EVEN AS YOUR FATHER WHICH IS IN HEAVEN IS PERFECT. How can you become Perfect with out the Perfect Word of God. You are Heretic,and a Liar.There is Hell waiting for liars like U. R. Rev.21:8.
Again, you are presuming WITHOUT A SHRED OF EVIDENCE that the KJV 1611 is perfect - the very fact it has MARGINAL NOTES saying "some manuscripts say otherwise" proves its not perfect - otherwise there would be no quam about what they actual text says.
/// the same when I will see Him ///
lol dont tell me.... you version of Jesus will be speaking in KING JAMES LANGUAGE ASWELL???? lol
@doctorh2005 You are Heretic. TITUS 3:10,11 A MAN THAT IS AN HERETICK AFTER THE FIRST AND SECOND ADMONITION REJECT;KNOWING THAT HE THAT IS SUCH IS SUBVERTED,AND SINNETH,BEING CONDEMNED OF HIMSELF. Now Heretick go away please, and dont piss in my pockets any more.
/// How can you become Perfect with out the Perfect Word of God ///
What BIble verse says "You need the perfect tranlation to be perfect"????? You are adding to the Scriptures.
Paul didnt have a complete KJV N.T., so I guess he wasn't "being perfect" either...
When Christ said "BE PERFECT", He is simply showing that God's standard on Judgement Day is going to be PERFECTION - of which NOBODY can meet that standard, which is the function of the Law - to show us our sins.
/// My reason to call you a FOOL, because you are crook. ///
You havent proven your reason becuase you have yet to have given ONE VERSE from the Bible saying "The KJV is the only perfect translation and all others are false".
You are losing badly my friend... *feels sorry for you* *sniff*
@doctorh2005 KJV is Perfect. 1COR.13:10 BUT WHEN THAT WHICH IS PERFECT IS COME,THEN THAT WHICH IS IN PART SHALL BE DONE AWAY. THAT which is PERFECT is the KJV, and the rest of your Satanic bibles are good for NOTHING.
@doctorh2005 You can wipe your perverted ass with your footnotes, it just proves again how Satanic your perverted bible are. JOHN 10:35 IF HE CALLED THEM GODS,UNTO WHOM THE WORD OF GOD CAME,AND THE SCRIPTURE CANNOT BE BROKEN; Scriptures cannot be broken, you dumb FOOL. Stick your footnotes up your donkey.
@HaRdzstylerR /// Scriptures cannot be broken, you dumb FOOL. Stick your footnotes up your donkey. /// hahahaha - did you know that KING JAMES VERSION has over 8000 marginal FOOTNOTES aswell!!! lmao JUDGES 19:2 EZRA 10:40 PSALM 102:3 MATTHEW 1:11 LUKE 10:22 LUKE 17:36 ACTS 25:6 EPH.6:9 JAMES 2:18 1PET.2:21 2PET.2:2 2PET.2:11 2PET.2:18 2JOHN8 What do you say about THAT???
@doctorh2005 I say that your are dumb, Foolish, Bible pervert.1COR13:10BUT WHEN THAT WHICH IS PERFECT,THEN THAT WHICH IS IN PART SHALL BE DONE AWAY.That is an object and it's the Bible your Fool. V.8outside this Perfect Bible,prophecies shall fail,miraculas tongues day of Pentecost are ceased,knowledge vanished away, all the knowledge we need is in the Bible.V9Apostles who wrote the Bible knew in part and prophesied in part, and now it's all in the Bible.V10SO now we have the Perfect Word of God
@doctorh2005 And all what the apostles knew and prophesied is done away,we dont need any more any revelations, any prophesies which is not in the Bible, or any knowledge which is not Biblical knowledge, it's all complete in the Perfect King James Bible. For u to say that V.10 is about Jesus is lunacy.If you say THAT is Jesus then THAT which is in part shall be done away, so what are you going to cut Jesus in parts?What about Jesus will be done away you dumb Fool? V.11 talks about the maturity.
/// For u to say that V.10 is about Jesus is lunacy ///
Verse 12 says "For now we see only a reflection as in a mirror; then we shall see FACE TO FACE" - He's not talking about SCRIPTURE - he's talking about the abillity to COMPREHEND everything - the process of SANCTIFICATION... WHEN THE PERFECT (the Day of Christ) COMES - and we shall see Christ FACE TO FACE.
You are twisting Pauls letters and proving yourself more and more to be a son of the Devil, as 2Peter 3:16 states.
@doctorh2005 Listen you dumb nut, when Jesus will appear He will be the same as the Word of God KJV is. And I see his face right now when I read the Word of God,when I read it I am talking to Him, face to face. MATT.24:35 HEAVEN AND EARTH SHALL PASS AWAY,BUT MY WORDS SHALL NOT PASS AWAY. And when Jesus will appear I will be the same as He is.1JOHN3:2BELOVED,NOW ARE WE THE SONS OF GOD,AND IT DOTH NOT YET APPEAR WHAT WE SHALL BE;BUT WE KNOW THAT WHEN HE SHALL APPEAR,WE SHALL BE LIKE HIM;...
/// He will be the same as the Word of God KJV is. ///
Again, you are fallaciously PREsuming the KJV translation to be perfect - if it were perfect it would not have MARGINAL NOTES giving OPTIONAL TRANSLATIONS, like the list I gave you below. The very fact it has MARGINAL NOTES saying "some manuscripts say the opposite" shows its NOT perfect, and just like every other translation out there.
/// I see his face when I read the Word of God ///
/// Originals are pure word of God, do you have them ? ///
We don't have to have the Originals. We have over 25,000 COPIES of the originals - the EARLIEST, in fact, and therefore the MOST ACCURATE manuscripts. The KJV is taken from the MOST RECENT written manuscripts, and have added verses to them, and are not as accurate as the ESV, NIV etc.
Erm, thats because the Word of God TELLS us Pete??? - that we are "BY NATURE" children of wrath and enemies of God? (EPH.2:3)... that we are BY NATURE sinners?
@sungis They are only scary if you are an unsaved unregenerate man who's headed for hell, OR if you are a backslidden Christian who is more worried about racial and cultural issues than you are your own individual sin and all you can think about is "being NICE to people." LOL. God bless Peter Ruckman and any man who stands to the death for that blessed KJV! Amen.
@jondabill Well, I am not back-slidden. I am a believer. And you, my friend, are legalistic, have a very distorted view of the KJV manuscripts, and no little of God's grace. Jesus loves you, bud.
@sungis You are a believer in WHAT? I am not legalistic, I live by grace through faith, but I will not subject myself to a scholarship that is so blind as to accept Roman Catholic readings OVER my english protestant reformation bible. I am in the minority but I am in the right, praise in the Lord. Don't mistake strong preaching for having little or no grace. Jesus loves us, yes, but that doesn't give us license to reject his perfect book on the grounds that it is "too hard to understand."
@sungis Oh that's right, you wish to go with the OLDEST and "Best" manuscripts which are not as old as Tatian's Diatesseron which agrees with the KJV readings and AGAINST the Vaticanus. It was there 200 years before Vaticanus or Sinaiticus was penned.
@sungis You are lost fool, with your Satanic perversions you are born of the Devil, and you are child of the Devil for perverting the ways of the Lord ACTS 13:10 KJV. Legalistic ? This is the most Satanic excuse you can ever come up with. How do you know about God with out His Perfect Word ? You are dumb NUT ? Hard to understand ? You must be joking, English is my 5th tongue and I understand KJV perfectly. And if you dumb nut dont understand,go and ask your pastor, he will open your blind eyes.
@HaRdzstylerR Wow, so much LOVE from my brethren in Christ. Does your KJV encourage you to do this? The KJV isn't evil, it just has some minor errors. The language is nice and I love it... but it is no where close to perfect because of the translation issues and the manuscripts.
@sungis Unlike our friend HaRdzstylerR, I don't cosign you to Hell...lol. I just know you to be misinformed. If you trust the blood of Christ alone for your salvation, then you are my brother. Now...show me these errors that I might believe. The KJV IS perfect, the perfect word of God for the english speaking people. Fill me in.
@jondabill The following is a question my friend sent me: How can you accept that the Textus Receptus is perfect and error free when Acts 9:6 is found only in the Latin Vulgate but absolutely no Greek manuscript known to man? Further, how come in Rev 22:19 the phrase "book of life" is used in the KJV when absolutely ALL known Greek manuscripts read "tree of life"? There are plenty of other issues in the KJV.
@sungis This Heretic rejects the Perfect Word of God KJV, and he will be in heaven. Wow,!Show me the verse when it says that?ACTS 13:10 AND SAID,O FULL OF ALL MISCHIEF,THOU CHILD OF THE DEVIL,THOU ENEMY OF ALL RIGHTEOUSNESS,WILT THOU NOT CEASE TO PERVERT THE RIGHT WAYS OF THE LORD?Bible perverts are the children of the Devil,and who is they Father.JOHN8:44YE ARE OF YOUR FATHER THE DEVIL,AND THE LUSTS OF YOUR FATHER YE WILL DO.HE WAS A MURDERER FROM THE BEGINNING AND ABODE NOT IN THE TRUTH,......
@doctorh2005 2 TIMOTHY 3:16 ALL SCRIPTURE IS GIVEN BY INSPIRATION OF GOD,AND IS PROFITABLE FOR DOCTRINE,FOR REPROOF,FOR CORRECTION,FOR INSTRUCTION IN RIGHTEOUSNESS;There is your proof dumb doctor that KJV is perfect inspired translation.You want to fight with God go a head dumb Rebel.
@doctorh2005 What do you want me to answer ? So what are you saying that English speaking people dont have the Perfect Inspired Word of God ? You quoted verse from Eph.2:3. From what bible do you quote ? If you have one, or maybe many.
@HaRdzstylerR with all due respect, our friend Sungis doesn't deserve that kind of treatment. He might be a brother, I don't know, but he has just learned at the feet of the wrong people. I understand your passion, but lets show a little grace. haha, you know, "be ye wise as serpents and HARMLESS as doves."
I feel sorry for this man, he rejected the Only Church founded by Jesus...No matter what excuses he may have, he IS a Catholic priest, will always be a priest no matter where he hides. And for betraying Jesus and Jesus' Church he will be accountable.
It's seems to me Ruckman feeds on the steady "amens" of his loyal followers. Their eyes are spinning under the mesmerizing spirit of his arrogant preaching. There's quite a difference between making or proving your "own" point, as opposed to humbly but boldly proclaiming God's message. A lot of fundamentalists have this problem. They fail to see they have digressed to the point of building their own little kingdom on earth. "The servant of the Lord must not strive but be gentle" (Apostle Paul).
peterpulpitpounder 3 months ago
@peterpulpitpounder Listen U gentle Bible pervert,U R a devil,The Devil in the garden was gentle with Eve as well.U R not going to deceive me,U perverted crook.PSALMS 138:2 I WILL WORSHIP TOWARD THY HOLY TEMPLE,AND PRAISE THY NAME FOR THY LOVINGKINDNESS AND FOR THY TRUTH;FOR THOU HAST MAGNIFIED THY WORD ABOVE THY NAME. God magnifies His Word above His own names,God will never contradict what He says in the Holy Bible.MARK 13:33 HEAVEN AND EARTH SHALL PASS AWAY;BUT MY WORDS SHALL NOT PASS AWAY.
HaRdzstylerR 3 months ago
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peterpulpitpounder 3 months ago
@HaRdzstylerR
In a demented sort of way, you are walking in the footsteps of Cain. You have your a wheelbarrow full of vegetables (pride, that is), and are pushing it all over town for all to see. Your position is wrong, and all can do is throw insults around. The servant of the Lord must not strive but be gentle. This is not some devilish principle, but that which is found right in the Bible. What? Is that not found in your Bible? I thought you were using the KJV?
peterpulpitpounder 3 months ago
@peterpulpitpounder You are the Bible pervert and a child of the Devil, to Rebel against the Word of God KJV, and pervert the right ways of the Lord. ACTS 13:10 AND SAID,O FULL OF ALL SUBTILTY AND ALL MISCHIEF,THOU CHILD OF THE DEVIL,THOU ENEMY OF ALL RIGHTEOUSNESS,WILT THOU NOT CEASE TO PERVERT THE RIGHT WAYS OF THE LORD ? Shut your filthy mouth about my walk you scum. I dont give a flip what your filthy mouth says about me. My Authority is the Word of God, not some Fool like you are.
HaRdzstylerR 3 months ago
@HaRdzstylerR
You just love to hear yourself talk, don't you? Your "meat" is not to do the will of your Father in heaven, but to tout your own position and affirm your own righteousness. Sadly, you are blind to the error of your ways. No, your authority is that of men, and that's why you speak in such an arrogant and corrupt manner, calling another believer a scum, idiot and infidel, etc. Yup, you sound just like a modern day Pharisee to me, condeming the just while defending yourself.
peterpulpitpounder 3 months ago
@peterpulpitpounder You another believer ? Ha,Ha,Ha !!! You have nothing to do with God, you Hypocrite. JOHN 8:47 HE THAT IS OF GOD HEARETH GOD'S WORDS;YE THEREFORE HEAR THEM NOT ,BECAUSE YE ARE NOT OF GOD.
HaRdzstylerR 3 months ago
@HaRdzstylerR
Once again, you speak as fool. I'm not a believer because I don't agree with your KJV only position? How ridiculous. Boy, you really have been poisoned. I'm a salvation by grace, justified, blood bought, chosen in Him, adopted, sanctified, sealed and looking for the blessed hope kind of person. For you to deem me an infidel only proves to all reading this sight that you quite full of yourself. I wish you were full of humility, your words speak otherwise.
peterpulpitpounder 3 months ago
@peterpulpitpounder With another Satanic perversions which are another gospel's, you are not under grace, you are under curse. GALATIANS 1:6 I MARVEL THAT YE ARE SO SOON REMOVED FROM HIM THAT CALLED YOU INTO THE GRACE OF CHRIST UNTO ANOTHER GOSPEL;You are removed from grace.V.7WHICH IS NOT ANOTHER;BUT THERE BE SOME THAT TROUBLE YOU,AND WOULD PERVERT THE GOSPEL OF CHRIST.With your Satanic bibles U R full of trouble,and U R Bible pervert.V.8BUT THOUGH WE,OR AN ANGEL FROM HEAVEN,PREACH ANY OTHER...
HaRdzstylerR 3 months ago
@peterpulpitpounder GALATIANS 1:8 BUT THOUGHT WE, OR AN ANGEL FROM HEAVEN, PREACH ANY OTHER GOSPEL UNTO YOU THAN THAT WHICH WE HAVE PREACHED UNTO YOU, LET HIM BE ACCURSED. You are cursed and heading to HELL. You looking for the blessed hope, U must be joking, U R a joke, and a Hypocrite. JOB 8:13,14 SO ARE THE PATHS OF ALL THAT FORGET GOD; AND THE HYPOCRITE'S HOPE SHALL PERISH; WHOSE HOPE SHALL BE CUT OFF AND WHOSE TRUST SHALL BE A SPIDER'S WEB.
HaRdzstylerR 3 months ago
@HaRdzstylerR
You are now guilty of wrecklessly quoting the word of God. Like a crazy man with sword in hand, you take joy in hacking anyone or anything who disagrees with your personal thoughts. And now it's Galatians 1:8? What a joke. I'm quite well versed in the realm of soteriology, and with the pure, unadulterated Gospel of grace. Your charges are groundless and totally motivated by your pride and insecurity.
It's time to repent.
peterpulpitpounder 3 months ago
@peterpulpitpounder MATTHEW 16:18 ... GET THEE BEHIND ME, SATAN; THOU ART AN OFFENCE UNTO ME; FOR THOU SAVOUREST NOT THE THINGS THAT BE OF GOD,BUT THOSE THAT BE OF MEN.
HaRdzstylerR 3 months ago
@HaRdzstylerR
Were you looking in a mirror when you typed these words? (Ha, ha). More wreckless quotation and application of the Scriptures you claim to know and love. You really ought to learn how to more effectively use the Sword of the Spirit, because all you're doing is hacking away with a blindfold over your eyes. Nice try, but your words are impotent due to your lack of humility, discretion and sound exegesis. Are you eight years old, or what? I feel like I'm talking to a child.
peterpulpitpounder 3 months ago
@peterpulpitpounder It's not my word's, Stupid. It's the Word's of the Lord Jesus Christ. You are thick as a brick.
HaRdzstylerR 3 months ago
@HaRdzstylerR
Yes, and you are applying the words of God in a wreckless and unwarranted manner. It's very typical of people like yourself who don't think but simply repeat what has been pounded in their heads. The Mormons do this all the time, convinced they are right. You speak insults, accuse me of being unsaved, tell me I'm going to hell, etc. and for no valid reason whatsoever. Yup, a modern day Pharisee is what you are, and sadly blind to the foul spirit that poisons your heart.
peterpulpitpounder 3 months ago
@peterpulpitpounder PROVERBS 13:20 HE THAT WALKETH WITH WISE MEN SHALL BE WISE;BUT A COMPANION OF FOOLS SHALL BE DESTROYED. Go away, you are a FOOL.
HaRdzstylerR 3 months ago
@HaRdzstylerR
Exactly, so stop walking with fools.
peterpulpitpounder 3 months ago
@peterpulpitpounder Ok,
HaRdzstylerR 2 months ago
HardzstylerR thinks He's the only justified person in the world. Think again.
peterpulpitpounder 3 months ago
From Wikipedia - Ruckman also believes in UFOs, blue, black and gray aliens. Further, he believes the CIA has implanted brain transmitters in children, old people, and African-Americans and that the agency operates underground alien breeding facilities. In 1997, Ruckman claimed that Attorney General Janet Reno had drawn up a list with his name on it and predicted that the "Government Mafia" would make a hit on him during "the next two or three years.]"
bluestwosmoos 4 months ago
Ruckman is poisoned with extremism & hate. He's a spiriitual tightrope walker with half a pole in his hand. And it's sad how many "Amens" are thrown in his direction.
peterpulpitpounder 4 months ago
@peterpulpitpounder You wouldn't get any amen's you perverted unsaved Rebel.
HaRdzstylerR 4 months ago
@HaRdzstylerR
Perverted unsaved rebel? Typical response from one who can't think for himself. Sorry, but I'm justified by faith in the shed blood of Christ, sealed with the Spirit unto the day of redemption, and among those who have been adopted into God's spiritual family.
peterpulpitpounder 4 months ago
@peterpulpitpounder Dr. Ruckman is one of the best Bible preachers and teachers. If you pick on this man of God who fights with this perverted Satanic world, and perverted Satanic religions you must be a devil yourself. I'll ask you pervert one Q. are you saved ?
HaRdzstylerR 4 months ago
@HaRdzstylerR
You need to cut the strings hanging off your arms and legs, because a puppet you are, conditioned and programmed to speak and to declare the teachings of men. Instead of really grapping with the issues at hand, all you seek to do is question my salvation is some unwarranted, ridiculous fashion. I'm quite aware of the many facets of Biblical soteriology. The greater question is: Has Ruckam ever read James 3:13-17 or 2 Timothy 2:24-26. He's quite full of himself. That's obvious.
peterpulpitpounder 4 months ago
@HaRdzstylerR
I know plenty of excellent Bible teachers who take issue with Ruckman on a number of fronts, and these men are meek, gentle, and not caught up in the "striving" that you seem to love so much These men aren't pushing their own agenda, or doctrine, nor are they confident in the flesh, etc. Your language indicates to me that you are not only completely disjointed from the Spriit of God, but you are more in the image of Ruckman than Christ, which is quite sad indeed.
peterpulpitpounder 3 months ago
@peterpulpitpounder Listen you lovely Moron, I will ask you again, please tell me which perversion which you rely on is decent and valid ?? Dont be scared, just give me other perversions name.It's funny how you rubbish the Word of God KJV, and cant give me perversion's which you follow, you nice and loving Hypocrite.
HaRdzstylerR 3 months ago
@HaRdzstylerR
You don't deserve further discussion, having totally abandoned sound exegetical skills in originally and wrongly applying the Scriptures. You have yet to answer my questions. And your reasoning is flawed in thinking the KJV is somehow the "only" decent translation. Until you have your brain washed from the teachings of men, you'll never think straight. And your course language also speaks volumes regarding the spirit of which you are. You are clearly not Spirit led.
peterpulpitpounder 3 months ago
@peterpulpitpounder Yes, you led by the Devil, with your Satanic perversions. That's why you never quote the scripture you pervert, So what Satanic perversion do you follow? KJV is the Spirit of God,which is the Word of God,your Satanic perversions is the spirit of men,which corrupted the Word of God. JOHN 6:63 IT IS THE SPIRIT THAT QUICKENETH;THE FLESH PROFITETH NOTHING;THE WORDS THAT I SPEAK UNTO YOU,THEY ARE SPIRIT,AND THEY ARE LIFE.
HaRdzstylerR 3 months ago
@HaRdzstylerR
Let by the Devil? Hmm, how strange a claim this is, seeing my language and spirit are Christ-like, rather than Ruckman-like. You are again wrong. I'm a blood bought, justified, adopted, sealed, filled and gifted child of God, and yet you persist on putting me in the devil's camp, just because I don't agree with you on the KJV only position. You're nothing but a moder day pharisee, full of yourself and lacking in true character.
Repent.
peterpulpitpounder 3 months ago
@HaRdzstylerR
You worship a translation. That's the crux of the whole matter. The men who produced the original KJV desired to put the Word of God in the language of the common man, and even included optional renderings (when the precise meaning was not certain). They never considered their work to be the only and final treatment. You have unfortunately been brainwashed by the KJV onlyism movement, which is really quite a silly position.
peterpulpitpounder 3 months ago
@HaRdzstylerR
Perverted and unsaved because I support and condone Christ-likeness instead of Ruckman-likeness? Am I talking to an 8 year old, or what? I mean, you have yet say anything with theological substance. Instead you prefer to hurl insults without any true warrant. Let's see some sound exegetical skills, of which you obviously lack. Someone disagrees with you and you immediately call him a pervert. You must be a very proud and insecure person.
peterpulpitpounder 3 months ago
Not bashing, just asking an honest question: What about Job 21:24 where the KJV says that 'His breasts are full of milk, and his bones are moistened with marrow.'? What about Unicorn and Satyr? Please help me out with regard to these issues. I have read a few responses, but they appear as the 'grasping at straws' type of "answers". God Bless!
taztef 9 months ago
@taztef U have 2 understand that in JOB21:24it's about dead,V.22SHALL ANY TEACH GOD KNOWLEDGE?SEEING HE JUDGETH THOSE THAT ARE HIGH.V.23ONE DIETH IN HIS FULL STRENGTH,BEING WHOLLY AT EASE AND QUIET.It's like one dieth in his full top condition,full with milk and juicy bones.V.25AND ANOTHER DIETH IN THE BITTERNESS OF HIS SOUL,AND NEVER EATETH WITH PLEASURE.And another bitter and grumpy,full of shit.V.26THEY SHALL LIE DOWN ALIKE IN THE DUST,AND THE WORMS SHALL COVER THEM.Note:bothcovered withworms
HaRdzstylerR 9 months ago 20
@taztef
I'll try to help you with your question, although I'm not a KJV only extremist. I do believe the Bible is the Word of God. Can you be more specific with your inquiry regarding Job 21:24?
peterpulpitpounder 3 months ago
Seriously...have the people defending this fellow actually watched his performance? Laughable.
hldnoqtr 9 months ago
The New Testament alone has been translated into an estimated 2,018 different languages - none of which use the King's English. I smell Fundamental Baptist.
hldnoqtr 9 months ago
@hldnoqtr It's not King's English you FOOL, it's the Word of God in English.
HaRdzstylerR 9 months ago
@HaRdzstylerR
You, sir, with all due respect, are arrogant. You really have no other reply than that unchristian statement, really? That's it? Now, who is really the FOOL here? Very disappointing.
hldnoqtr 9 months ago
@HaRdzstylerR
By the way...did you happen to read my previous post about those who resort to name calling because they really have no intelligence?
hldnoqtr 9 months ago
@hldnoqtr
Yes, the Word of God has been translated in many languages, and that's something we should rejoice in! And God isn't concerned that anyone learn English so they can read the KJV version either. What an extreme and radical position.
peterpulpitpounder 3 months ago
When Christ came to this earthas Messiah,the (known) world was under roman rule.Romans conquered lands and those people were compelled to learn the language used by the roman empire.Today most of the world either uses the english language as thier primary language or their secondary language.That is a very interesting thought. I thank God for the kjv and the men who translated it with the best of intentions for all mankind. They did their best for God and man, not for money. I am thankful!
loaderman2011 11 months ago
DR.RUCKMAN RIGHT AND YOU AEE WRONG. ANY OFFENDED? Discover for YOURSELF AND NOT HERESAY/RUMOURS..
Will
yaddame100 1 year ago
COMPLETE LOONY TUNES
singapore7773 1 year ago
I've listened to (excuse me) MORONS like this all my life..basically, no foundation of truth and ...when confronted...guys like this resort to name calling and try to end the debate. KJ "onlyism" is full of fantasy and fiction. You believe this guy...you might as well be a monkey and believe in evolution.
hldnoqtr 1 year ago
@hldnoqtr So what bible which is only for you???
HaRdzstylerR 1 year ago
@HaRdzstylerR The King James is a very good translation (there are poor translations, by the way). Personally, I prefer the 1599 Geneva Bible. I also enjoy the NIV. Might I suggest some research here rather than simply taking a man's circular reasoning as the truth?
hldnoqtr 1 year ago
@hldnoqtr First the KJV is not good translation,it's the Perfect Word of God.Second the Geneva Bible is the Word of God,but it's not Perfect,the Bible had to be written under the Authority of a king.ECCL.8:4WHERE THE WORD OF A KING IS,THERE IS POWER;AND WHO MAY SAY UNTO HIM,WHAT DOEST THOU?Third NIV is Satanic perversion it's a COPYRIGHT just a dead book,the gospel's of men which are cursed by God GALATIANS1:6-12KJV.NIV is Satanic lying book which lies about God,and those who follow it is liars.
HaRdzstylerR 1 year ago
@HaRdzstylerR Sir, you need to learn to respect God's Word. It amazes me how KJV onlyists claim to be so strong on the authority of the Bible, etc, yet don't care to respect it in what it says. Ecc 8:4 has nothing to do with translations. there is nothing in the text to say it does. You must "rightly divide the word of truth." Look @ context and find the authorial intent. That would say that the the Word did not have power until 1611. Also the KJ did have a (C) it just ran out. Do ur research.
centeredonchrist 1 year ago
@centeredonchrist The Word always had power, before 1611 it just the KJV is the perfect Word of God and the cover of this Holy Bible is perfect too. Ecc.8:4 has nothing to do with translations, but it has to do with the King James who is the real King. And dont you dare open your filthy mouth against the King, you wouldn do it in those days, you hypocrite.
HaRdzstylerR 1 year ago 282
@HaRdzstylerR
Ec. 8:4 has NOTHING to do with the KJV. Poor homework on your part.
peterpulpitpounder 4 months ago
@peterpulpitpounder Listen Stupid.ECCL.8:4WHERE THE WORD OF A KING IS,THERE IS POWER;AND WHO MAY SAY UNTO HIM,WHAT DOEST THOU?The word of a king is on the front cover of the Holy Bible. That's why this Holy Bible is full of God's power.Which is Authorized by the Holy Ghost with king's name on the front cover. Dummies like you wouldn't have the brains to understand it. What ever is not according to the Word of God, I dont care what Dr.Ruckman believes.Your dumb theory U can keep it to yourself.
HaRdzstylerR 4 months ago
@HaRdzstylerR
You sound like a Ruckman clone. I suggest Christ-likeness instead. Anyone with any exegetical skills at all will tell you that Ec. 8:4 has NOTHING to do with the KJV. Your response is not only laughable but extremely pathetic, to say the least. You just don't realize of what spirit you are, and it's certainly not in line with Galatians 5:22-23 (Your spirit is describe a bit later one in the text).
peterpulpitpounder 4 months ago
@peterpulpitpounder MATTHEW 16:23 ...GET THEE BEHIND ME,SATAN:THOU ART AN OFFENCE UNTO ME: FOR THOU SAVOUREST NOT THE THINGS THAT BE OF GOD,BUT THOSE THAT BE OF MEN.
HaRdzstylerR 4 months ago
@HaRdzstylerR
Once again, your response is not only laughable, but pathetically sad. And I'm not surprised by it, for it is quite ,common among those who operate in the flesh. If you are willing to honestly examine yourself, you might just catch a glimpse of your carnality. Ec. 8:4 has NOTHING to do with the KJV. Why not humbly admit that you failed to do your homework? That's really what this is all about. Stop being a Ruckmanite and start acting like a true child of God.
peterpulpitpounder 4 months ago
@peterpulpitpounder Where the word of a king is, the word of a king is on the front cover of the Holy Bible, you are dumb NUT.
HaRdzstylerR 4 months ago
@HaRdzstylerR
That it? That's the extent of your exegetical skill? It's no wonder people mock the Christian faith, with so many poor examples like yourself running around spouting off groundless claims. Ec. 8:4 is about respecting and honoring an "earthly" monarch, just as 1 Peter 2:17 commands. It has nothing to do with the KJV translation. You've been duped. Just admit it and take the first step down the road of repentance.
peterpulpitpounder 4 months ago
@peterpulpitpounder Listen IDIOT, Where the word of a king is, the word of a king is on the front cover of the Holy Bible, you are an IDIOT. That's why you should respect and honor this Holy Bible. ECCL. 10:20 CURSE NOT THE KING,NO NOT IN THY THOUGHT;...Which means dont you dare to open your filthy mouth about this Holy Bible, understood ? You dumb NUT.
HaRdzstylerR 4 months ago
@HaRdzstylerR
Poor exegetical skills on your part, combined with a large dose of sinful pride. Did you attend the "private cubicle of self-interpretation seminary" or what? The word "king" in Ec. 8:4 has NOTHING to do with the KJV Bible, it's fabrication, or with anyone involved in its fabrication. It's like saying John 3:16 makes reference to the New World Translation because it contains the word "world." That's pretty wreckless and unfounded reasoning, and it only confirms your ignorance.
peterpulpitpounder 4 months ago
@peterpulpitpounder ECCL.10:20 CURSE NOT THE KING, NOT IN THY THOUGHT... I dont care about king of England, king of worms or any other king's who has nothing to do with God. I only will honor king's of the Bible, who served the Lord, and all who are the king's of the kingdom of God. All other unsaved king's can go plumb to the Devil. And you are Bible pervert, now get thee behind me Satan.
HaRdzstylerR 3 months ago
@HaRdzstylerR
You're still avoiding the issue by rattling off a bunch of nothingness. You're so full of yourself. In fact, you've got the snot of pride and self-sufficiency running profusely out of both of your nostrils. Calling me the Devil and Satan. What a joke. You words and foul spirit reveal to all the true source of your message, and it can't possibly be from above.
peterpulpitpounder 3 months ago
@peterpulpitpounder For saying anything against the Word of God which is the KJV, is the Blasphemy, Blasphemers will burn in Hell, those who lie about God's Truth. And those who lie about God's Truth are the Bible pervert's.Bible pervert's are the children of the Devil, this is the bunch to which you belong. ACTS 13:10 AND SAID,O FULL OF ALL SUBTILTY AND ALL MISCHIEF,THOU CHILD OF THE DEVIL,THOU ENEMY OF ALL RIGHTEOUSNESS,WILT THOU NOT CEASE TO PERVERT THE RIGHT WAYS OF THE LORD?
HaRdzstylerR 3 months ago
@HaRdzstylerR
For starters, the KJV is not the only decent and valid translation. You have been so brainwashed on the KJV only a position that you can't even think straight. Oh, and the original premise of this whole conversation had to do with my pointing out that the Ecclesiastes passage you quote had NOTHING to do with the KJV. And now I'm guilty of blaspheming God because of good exegetical skills? You sound so much like a 1st century Pharisee, you know, the one's who sought to kill Jesus?
peterpulpitpounder 3 months ago
@peterpulpitpounder Ohhh,really?I have one Holy Bible which is the Word of God KJV.And U have 100 perversions,and U calling me a Pharisee?Wow,U know what dumb Hypocrite?MATT.23:13BUT WOE UNTO YOU,SCRIBES AND PHARISEES,HYPOCRITES!...Scribes it's this Pharisees,and Hypocrites with 100 bibles.KJV is not the only decent and valid translation.Ohhh,really?U perverted Hypocrite,tell me which is another one is decent and valid?4 your information KJV is the Word of God from cover 2 cover.Kapish?
HaRdzstylerR 3 months ago
@HaRdzstylerR
Yes, your spirit is driven by human pride, and so you are much like the Pharisees that condemned Jesus without warrant. You "think" the KJV only position is valid, when it's not. Yes, the KJV is a good translation, but it's not the only one. By the way, the original 1611 translation contained marginal notes entertaining other possible renderings of certain texts, totally dismantling your lame position.
It's time to do you homework.
peterpulpitpounder 3 months ago
@peterpulpitpounder Hey listen FOOL, I asked you a Q. which is other perversion which you rely on is decent and valid,? you dumb Bible pervert.
HaRdzstylerR 3 months ago
@hldnoqtr The NIV copyright is owned by Ruppert Murdock who also owns the copyright to Satan's Bible. Ruppert Murdock's pastor is the heretic Rick Warren, New Ager and self admitted CFR (Illuminati) member. The NIV is missing, as I stopped counting at 40 verses, and is based on the Latin Vulgate besides. The NIV Is a Bible from Satan....the word needs to be out.
tgambill 9 months ago
@tgambill
When you interject "illuminati" you expose yourself for what you are.
hldnoqtr 9 months ago
@hldnoqtr I am a white boy...lol So If I interject the word Boule society does that mean I now African American and a member of the boule. When one interjects the word "Illuminati" it means since you can't figure it out, it means I'm talking about Illuminati and not referring to them as the Mickey Mouse club. Now, If I were to interject the words of "Mickey Mouse Club" did it dawn on you that I would be talking about the Micky Mouse Club....lol.... you people are a hoot
tgambill 9 months ago
@tgambill
So, you're saying you're in the Mickey Mouse Club?
hldnoqtr 9 months ago
@hldnoqtr NIV Is satanic owned by Ruppert Murdock. Ruppert Murdock, owns Satan's Bible..also. Rick Warren, heretic and Illuminati member, CFR member is his pastor.
tgambill 9 months ago
@tgambill Thanks for this information I believe you, but what CFR stands for.?
HaRdzstylerR 9 months ago
@hldnoqtr
It hurts really, really bad when error is pointed out in one's life, and it hurts even worse when you humbly allow the Lord to extract it from you soul. It's like a surgeon going down deep into your flesh to remove that which doesn't belong in you system, but the end is sweet. The KJV only position is not a spiritual position, regardless of how "good" a translation it is.
peterpulpitpounder 4 months ago
You KJV only proponents really fascinate me. That's about the end of it though..I'm fascinated by a house of mirrors at the carnival as well. Have you seriously taken a look at the history of scripture? Erasmus, Augustine, Luther, Arminius, Pelagius? What was the word of God before the KJV? Have you ever bothered to read the 1599 Geneva Bible? All this KJV only crap makes me want to puke.
hldnoqtr 1 year ago
This is great I finally found a preacher that is REAL,Im not a religous man but after I started watching only because my wife was,We had to yfind him on the net he didnt even ask for $_ imagine that religion with out begging @ the end of program or selling a book .
ronn1243 1 year ago
@ronn1243 Absolutely, it is awesome isn't it?!?
jondabill 1 year ago
@ronn1243 Dr. Ruckman is as real as you can get, just like the Word of God KJV.
HaRdzstylerR 1 year ago 305
@HaRdzstylerR Real as in uninformed redneck? I would agree with that.
hldnoqtr 1 year ago
@HaRdzstylerR Amen! Dr. Ruckman tells it like it is! I thank the Lord for this wonderful preacher!
CaptQuint601 6 months ago
@CaptQuint601 Amen brother I am glad you appreciate the Truth. God bless.
HaRdzstylerR 6 months ago
This is madness! The KJV is almost being equated with Christ Himself. At the second comming will there be a giant KJV comming down from heaven or will there be the Eternal Logos, Jesus Christ?
The KJV is a good translation of the Bible, but a translation is all that it is! What about other languages? the monoglot ignorance is quite amusing.
It would be good to note the the OT was first written in Hebrew and the New Testament in Greek --- not middle english!
mrjoshua1414 1 year ago
can anyone tell me if this is the same guy speaking??
watch?v=kJxEEtgIeVQ
TheSpliffSmoker 1 year ago
Ah, I see that the "DOC" has joined the conversation and blessed us with "You have committed THAT fallacy and this fallacy and that fallacy and this fallacy." Oh boy, makes me sick. Is anybody else tired of hearing, "Do a google search on..." Haha, give me a break. Doctor H, do you have anything better to do that pick on people that actually BELIEVE the book they have in their hand? Go play with the other kids.
jondabill 1 year ago
/// So what are you saying that English speaking people dont have the Perfect Inspired Word of God ? ///
Are you suggesting the very fact its in ENGLISH proves that particular translation is "perfect"????
The New World Translation of the Jehovah's Witnesses is in English - so by your own definition the NWT is perfect aswell.
/// You quoted verse from Eph.2:3. From what bible do you quote ? ///
I quote Eph.2:3 from ANY Bible - coz they all say the same thing in that particular verse.
doctorh2005 1 year ago
@doctorh2005 What I am saying is that the KJV is the Perfect Word of God it's the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ. And all other English perversions is inspired by the Devil and there gospels of men, which are cursed. GALATIANS1:7,8 WHICH IS NOT ANOTHER;BUT THERE BE SOME THAT TROUBLE YOU,AND WOULD PERVERT THE GOSPEL OF CHRIST. BUT THOUGH WE,OR AN ANGEL FROM HEAVEN,PREACH ANY OTHER GOSPEL UNTO YOU THAN THAT WHICH WE HAVE PREACHED UNTO YOU,LET HIM BE ACCURSED. All other gospels are cursed by God.
HaRdzstylerR 1 year ago
@HaRdzstylerR
/// the KJV is the Perfect Word of God ///
Where does it say that???
Where does it specifially say "the KJV is the only inerrant version"???
NOWHERE.
Prove to me the KJV is the ultimate standard to compare all other translations by???
You are committing the logical fallacy called "BEGGING THE QUESTION" - google search it.
doctorh2005 1 year ago
@doctorh2005 KJV is not Copyright you cannot Copyright God's Word. All other perversions Copyright which means they all written by men. Obviously you never read KJV that's why you dont know. And when you open first pages of the Bible it says TRANSLATED OUT OF THE ORIGINAL TONGUES no other bibles dare to say that. And it also says NOT ONE WORD HAS BEEN ALTERED,ADDED,OR DELETED, no other bibles dare to say that ether.
HaRdzstylerR 1 year ago
@HaRdzstylerR
/// KJV is not Copyright ///
So now the fact that something is not "copyright" makes it perfect truth???
DARWIN'S "ORIGIN OF SPECIES" has no copyright either!!! Does that make it perfect tooo??? lmao.
A quote from an internet article.... " In the United Kingdom the Authorized King James Version (KJV) REMAINS IN CROWN COPYRIGHT under laws which predate any modern copyright legislation.
Refuted.
doctorh2005 1 year ago
@HaRdzstylerR
/// TRANSLATED OUT OF THE ORIGINAL TONGUES ///
So now the fact something is translated out of someone's language makes it automatic truth? Darwin's ORIGIN OF SPECIES has been translated into many languages (out of the original tongues) - so I suppose that makes it truth too.
The KJV was NOT translated from the original manuscripts.
AGAIN.
TELL ME WHERE IT SAYS THE KJV IS THE ONLY PERFECT INSPIRED TRANSLATION WHY WHICH TO JUDGE ALL OTHERS, AND THAT ALL OTHERS ARE FALSE!
doctorh2005 1 year ago
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@HaRdzstylerR
/// no other bibles dare to say that. ///
So if they "dared" to each say that, you would be defeated wouldnt you? lol
NO YOU ARE COMMITING THE FALLACY OF "ITS TRUE BECAUSE I 'SAY' SO"
What are you? A fallacy factory???
doctorh2005 1 year ago
@HaRdzstylerR
/// /// it also says NOT ONE WORD HAS BEEN ALTERED,ADDED,OR DELETED ///
AGAIN, that is a FALLACY - "IT'S TRUE BECAUSE I 'SAY' SO"
Stop committing these fallacious arguments. You havent given anything substantial yet.
BTW, the last few 6 verses of Revelation were translated DIRECTLY from the VATICANUS - i.e. a TRANSLATION, of a TRANSLATION of a TRANSLATION!
doctorh2005 1 year ago
@doctorh2005 KJV called AUTHORIZED, no other perversions dare to call themselves Authorized because thy authorized by the Devil. And this AUTHORITY is from God. It's AUTHORIZED by the Holy Ghost. 2PETER1:20KNOWING THIS FIRST,THAT NO PROPHECY OF THE SCRIPTURE IS OF ANY PRIVATE INTERPRETATION. God commands to not touch the scriptures to pervert them in other bibles. V.21FOR THE PROPHECY CAME NOT IN OLD TIME BY THE WILL OF MAN;BUT HOLY MEN OF GOD SPAKE AS THEY WERE MOVED BY THE HOLY GHOST.
HaRdzstylerR 1 year ago
@HaRdzstylerR
/// KJV called AUTHORIZED, no other perversions dare to call themselves Authorized ///
Once again , that is a FALLACY "It's-true-simply-because-it-SAYS-its true".
Many books in the world claim to be true - such as, the Koran, the WatchTower, the Pearl of Great Price.... so you're saying THEY are true aswell because they "say so"???
/// And this AUTHORITY is from God. ///
NOPE - that "authorization" in the KJV is from KING JAMES himself.
doctorh2005 1 year ago
@HaRdzstylerR
/// 2PETER1:20KNOWING THIS FIRST,THAT NO PROPHECY OF THE SCRIPTURE IS OF ANY PRIVATE INTERPRETATION ///
AGAIN, that verse says NOTHING about the "King James Version".
AGAIN, find me credible evidence that actually says the KJV is the only inspired translation and that all others are false... APART from the retarded excuse that the KJV just "says so"!!
doctorh2005 1 year ago
@doctorh2005 So you saying that KJV is not the Word of God.I go to English church I pray in English,I read English Bible.So now you tell me which one should I have as the Pure Word of God.PROVERBS 30:5 EVERY WORD OF GOD IS PURE;HE IS A SHIELD UNTO THEM THAT PUT THEIR TRUST IN HIM.Tell me which bible should I trust,which bible is every Word of God,and which one is pure. All those comments from you are carnal as you are,you didn't give me one verse from the Bible for your perverted argument.....
HaRdzstylerR 1 year ago
@HaRdzstylerR
/// So you saying that KJV is not the Word of God ///
Now you are committing the "Putting-Words-In-Mouth" Fallacy.
I say "the KING JAMES VERSION is not the only version Christians can read, and also that the KING JAMES VERSION is not perfect, but has TRANSLATIONAL mistakes and TRANSLATIONAL errors".
/// I go to English church I pray in English,I read English Bible ///
Your point?
doctorh2005 1 year ago
@HaRdzstylerR
/// So now you tell me which one should I have as the Pure Word of God ///
If you mean "perfect in TRANSLATION" I say "NO". There are many translational errors in the KJV. No translation is perfect, not even the KJV.
/// Tell me which bible should I trust, ///
I would COMPARE ALL TRANSLATIONS and not dogmatically say "this translation is the only one and all others are wrong."
The ORIGINALS are the pure Word of God, you just have a TRANSLATION - not the originals.
doctorh2005 1 year ago
@HaRdzstylerR
/// All those comments from you are carnal as you are ///
Now you've commited the "AD HOMINEM" Fallacy - do a google search on it and tell me what it says.
/// you didn't give me one verse from the Bible for your perverted argument ///
And you didnt give one verse to prove the KING JAMES VERSION is the only perfect TRANSLATION.
How old are you??? You clearly don't know how to produce valid arguements.
doctorh2005 1 year ago
@doctorh2005 You are very Stupid man, I ask you a Q. which bible do you want me to use ? You are big FOOL, KJV has errors, give me one ? You are original dumb Bible pervert. KJV is not the version christians can use. You FOOL, give me verse from the Bible where it says that. You telling me to compare all translations, you are the dummest Fool I ever come across. Originals are pure word of God, do you have them ? you are sick. KJV is Perfect,all other perversions is made for a Devil's like U. R
HaRdzstylerR 1 year ago
@HaRdzstylerR
/// You are very Stupid... You are original dumb Bible pervert... ///
Google search the words "Ad Hominem" - coz thats what you've just done.
/// You are big FOOL... You are the dummest Fool I ever come across... ///
Jesus said "whoever says YOU FOOL will be in danger of hellfire". You are a murderer if you call someone a fool. Oh, I suppose that verse isnt in the KJV???? (MATTHEW 5:21-22). By your verbal abuse you simply prove are of your father, the DEVIL.
doctorh2005 1 year ago
@doctorh2005 Oh,now you trying to use the bible and hoping for KJV to be on your side.You just show how dumb you are about the scriptures,that's why you pick on the Pure Word of God KJV,because you are Bible Pervert.MATT.5:22 BUT I SAY UNTO YOU,THAT WHOSOEVER IS ANGRY WITH HIS BROTHER WITHOUT A CAUSE...which means with out a reason.My reason to call you a FOOL, because you are crook.And your Satanic perversion like NIV omits WITH OUT A CAUSE.Jesus was angry,so they say that Jesus is judged.WOW !
HaRdzstylerR 1 year ago
@HaRdzstylerR
/// Oh,now you trying to use the bible and hoping for KJV to be on your side ///
No I'm using the ENGLISH STANDARD VERSION, which is more accurate than the KJV.
/// You just show how dumb you are about the scriptures...you are Bible Pervert ///
Answer me YES or NO.... Did you google search the words "AD HOMINEM"??? It means YOU'VE LOST THE ARGUMENT if you resort to name-callling. hahaha
doctorh2005 1 year ago
@doctorh2005 First your Satanic ESV is Copyright,Second there is no were in the Bible says to follow English standard version,Who is English?What a Satanic name to call a bible.King James is completed under the King.ECCL.8:4 WHERE THE WORD OF A KING IS,THERE IS POWER;AND WHO MAY SAY UNTO HIM,WHAT DOEST THOU?You have a lot to learn baby.I dont google nothing,I am Bible believing Christian,you can google your crap yourself. MATT.23:17YE FOOLS AND BLIND;V.19YE FOOLS AND BLIND; U.R Fool and blind...
HaRdzstylerR 1 year ago
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@HaRdzstylerR
/// First your Satanic ESV is Copyright ///
The KJV is still copyright in the country it was produced. Whats your point?? Its under CROWN copyright.
/// there is no were in the Bible says to follow English standard version ///
And there is nowhere in the Bible saying to follow the KJV!
/// Who is English?What a Satanic name to call a bible ///
And what a Satanic name to call a Bible "KING JAMES" hahaha.
doctorh2005 1 year ago
@HaRdzstylerR
/// WHERE THE WORD OF A KING IS,THERE IS POWER;AND WHO MAY SAY UNTO HIM,WHAT DOEST THOU? ///
Wasn't it "KING" Nebuchadnezzar in the book of Daniel who ordered people to worship a statue? I suppose you say he was right in that.
Sorry, but MY "King" is much higher - the KING OF KINGS and the LORD OF LORDS.
My King trumps yours into eternity.
/// You have a lot to learn baby ///
Do a google search on the words "Ad Hominem" - meaning, you've lost the argument!! lol
doctorh2005 1 year ago
@HaRdzstylerR
/// I am Bible believing Christian ///
No you are not - if you believed your Bible you would NEVER call your brother a "fool" or even REVILE your neighbour with such language - REVILERS WILL NOT INHERIT THE KINGDOM OF GOD - you are not a Christian.
Repent and trust in the Saviour before its too late!
doctorh2005 1 year ago
@doctorh2005 Paul called other Christians "fools." Christ called them fools, David called atheists fools. "WITHOUT A CAUSE," is the thing, see. If you don't have that, you have nonsense, you CONDEMN the apostle PAUL! Another reason new versions are nothing but crap!
jondabill 1 year ago
@jondabill
/// Paul called other Christians "fools." Christ called them fools, David called atheists fools. ///
When they mention "fools" they are talking about MORALITY - not INTELLECTUALITY - if you call someone an "intellectual" fool, you are MURDERER at heart.
The Bible says "REVILERS" (people who speak abusive language to another man) WILL NOT INHERIT THE KINGDOM OF GOD"
When you call someone a "fool" as HaRdzstyleR calls people, you are a REVILER.
Repent and trust in Christ!
doctorh2005 1 year ago
@doctorh2005 Hahahaha, and double ha! MY salvation is not based on what I DO, it is already finished at the cross. I am saved, and I trust alone for my salvation. You have committed the "not reading your bible" fallacy. Google it. Ha, just joking. Inherit means rewards, NOT eternal life. Read your bible, you backslidden calvanist!
jondabill 1 year ago
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@jondabill
/// MY salvation is not based on what I DO, ///
True, but "Salvation is of the LORD", not only in the ACCOMPLISHMENT of it, but also in the APPLICATION of it (yes I'm utterly against Arminianism & Decisionism). When God saves a man, He gives that man a NEW HEART with NEW DESIRES, so that all of a sudden he will no longer DESIRE to do the things he used to do - e.g. REVILING, calling people fools. God "CAUSES" that man to walk in His laws (read EZEKIEL 36:26-27)
doctorh2005 1 year ago
@jondabill
/// the "not reading your bible" fallacy. ///
You've just committed the "twisting the Word" Fallacy (2PETER3:16) - ANY teaching that goes against LORDSHIP Salvation is heresy - e.g. Easy-Believism, Carnal Christianity and Decisionism - also the Free Grace movement s heresy too.
/// backslidden calvanist! ///
Calvin would actually agree with me, if you bothered to read his Institutes. A man's lifestyle shows whether or not he really HAS the gift of saving faith or not.
doctorh2005 1 year ago
@doctorh2005 show where I committed the "twisted the word" fallacy. Show me, or you else you committed the "..........." fallacy. haha, you fill in the blank, your good at it. Inherit the kingdom of God is NOT salvation, heaven or hell. It is earning and losing rewards THERE.
jondabill 1 year ago
@jondabill
/// show where I committed the "twisted the word" fallacy. ///
Dispensationalism is only true if you twist and wrest the Word of God - I have given you plenty of arguments that Dispensationalism is false - and will continue doing so.
doctorh2005 1 year ago
@jondabill
/// the kingdom of God is NOT salvation, ///
Yes it is - Look at Mark 10...
When Jesus said "How hard it is....to enter THE KINGDOM OF GOD", the disciples replied, "Who then can be SAVED?" - implying it to mean SALAVATION.
Compare also Matt.25:34... To the Elect, Christ will say,
"Come...INHERIT THE KINGDOM"
But to the non-Elect, He will say,
"Depart from Me, you cursed, into the eternal fire"
CLEARLY, the Kingdom of God is a metaphor of SALATION - not mere "rewards"
doctorh2005 1 year ago
@doctorh2005 You misquoted me....again. You are good at it, just like your hero White. I said "Inheriting the Kingdom of God is not salvation." Matthew 25:34, "inherit the kingdom" is referring to the physical kingdom of heaven. And yes, they will.
jondabill 1 year ago
@jondabill Listen brother, this dumb doctor is a perverted FOOL, I wouldn't waist my time on this Crook any more. For him to reject the Perfect Word of God KJV, and follow his Satanic perversions says it all about this Lunatic. This crook is a snake, MATT.23:33 YE SERPENTS,YE GENERATION OF VIPERS,HOW CAN YE ESCAPE THE DAMNATION OF HELL ?
HaRdzstylerR 1 year ago 13
@HaRdzstylerR I agree. I am done talking with him officially, simply because there is TOO much at odds to even have hope of agreeing. He is a Calvinist, for one. I am certainly NOT! He is not a bible student. I am a dispensationalist. I am a bible believer, he is an orginal autographs believer, even though he has never seen them or heard them. "Answer thou NOT a fool according to his folly." He has too many to rebuke and correct. Time to move on and KICK OFF THE DUST from my feet.
jondabill 1 year ago
@jondabill Amen brother.
HaRdzstylerR 1 year ago
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@jondabill
/// "Inheriting the Kingdom of God is not salvation." ///
Didn't you read all my comment??
Compare Matt.25:34 & 25:41...
To the Elect, Christ will say,
"Come...INHERIT THE KINGDOM"
But to the non-Elect, He will say,
"Depart from Me, you cursed, into the eternal fire"
CLEARLY, the Kingdom of God is a metaphor of SALVATION - not mere "rewards" - the whole caboodle.
What Bible verse says the Kingdom is only "rewards"??
doctorh2005 1 year ago
@doctorh2005 FOR WE SHALL SEE HIM AS HE IS.And He is the same as the KJV which is the Word of Living God.HEBREWS 13:8 JESUS CHRIST THE SAME YESTERDAY,AND TO DAY,AND FOR EVER.He is the same in the Bible,and the same when I will see Him, and I will be the same as He is. MATT.5:48 BE YE THEREFORE PERFECT,EVEN AS YOUR FATHER WHICH IS IN HEAVEN IS PERFECT. How can you become Perfect with out the Perfect Word of God. You are Heretic,and a Liar.There is Hell waiting for liars like U. R. Rev.21:8.
HaRdzstylerR 1 year ago
@HaRdzstylerR
/// He is the same as the KJV ///
Again, you are presuming WITHOUT A SHRED OF EVIDENCE that the KJV 1611 is perfect - the very fact it has MARGINAL NOTES saying "some manuscripts say otherwise" proves its not perfect - otherwise there would be no quam about what they actual text says.
/// the same when I will see Him ///
lol dont tell me.... you version of Jesus will be speaking in KING JAMES LANGUAGE ASWELL???? lol
doctorh2005 1 year ago
@doctorh2005 You are Heretic. TITUS 3:10,11 A MAN THAT IS AN HERETICK AFTER THE FIRST AND SECOND ADMONITION REJECT;KNOWING THAT HE THAT IS SUCH IS SUBVERTED,AND SINNETH,BEING CONDEMNED OF HIMSELF. Now Heretick go away please, and dont piss in my pockets any more.
HaRdzstylerR 1 year ago 2
@HaRdzstylerR
/// Now Heretick go away please, and dont piss in my pockets ///
I suggest you go to the shops and buy two things:
1. a DICTIONARY.
and
2. a BAR OF SOAP to wash that filthy language from that mouth of yours. (Eph.4:29,5:4)
doctorh2005 1 year ago
@HaRdzstylerR
/// How can you become Perfect with out the Perfect Word of God ///
What BIble verse says "You need the perfect tranlation to be perfect"????? You are adding to the Scriptures.
Paul didnt have a complete KJV N.T., so I guess he wasn't "being perfect" either...
When Christ said "BE PERFECT", He is simply showing that God's standard on Judgement Day is going to be PERFECTION - of which NOBODY can meet that standard, which is the function of the Law - to show us our sins.
doctorh2005 1 year ago
@HaRdzstylerR
/// There is Hell waiting for liars like U. R. Rev.21:8. ///
And there's no Kingdom for REVILERS like you either! lol (1Corinth.6:9-10)
doctorh2005 1 year ago
@HaRdzstylerR
/// MATT.23:17YE FOOLS AND BLIND;V.19YE FOOLS AND BLIND; ///
Jesus said "HE THAT IS WITHOUT SIN CAST THE FIRST STONE" - only Jesus was entitled to cast stones and call people fools because He is sinless.
haha! Gotchya
/// 1COR.13:10 BUT WHEN THAT WHICH IS PERFECT IS COME, ///
Thats talking about when Christ returns you silly billy.
You really ought to actually STUDY your Bible and not simply skim through it looking for the words "KJV is God"
doctorh2005 1 year ago
@HaRdzstylerR
/// BUT I SAY UNTO YOU,THAT WHOSOEVER IS ANGRY WITH HIS BROTHER WITHOUT A CAUSE...///
and it also says, "WHOEVER CALLS SOMEONE A FOOL WILL BE IN DANGER OF HELLFIRE"
"REVILERS (people who use abusing langugage towards another) WILL NOT INHERIT THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN" (1Corithians 6:10)
You are simply showing yourself to be of your father, the DEVIL.
doctorh2005 1 year ago
@HaRdzstylerR
/// My reason to call you a FOOL, because you are crook. ///
You havent proven your reason becuase you have yet to have given ONE VERSE from the Bible saying "The KJV is the only perfect translation and all others are false".
You are losing badly my friend... *feels sorry for you* *sniff*
doctorh2005 1 year ago
@doctorh2005 KJV is Perfect. 1COR.13:10 BUT WHEN THAT WHICH IS PERFECT IS COME,THEN THAT WHICH IS IN PART SHALL BE DONE AWAY. THAT which is PERFECT is the KJV, and the rest of your Satanic bibles are good for NOTHING.
HaRdzstylerR 1 year ago
@HaRdzstylerR
/// THAT which is PERFECT is the KJV ///
Where does it say in that passage "the KJV is perfect"?? You are now ADDING TO THE SCRIPTURES - Revelation commands against that.
You are the one twisting Scripture, proving yourself to be of your father the Devil - read 2PETER 3:16 for clear proof you are.
/// You can wipe your perverted ass with your footnotes ///
Such foul language coming from you - you should read EPHESIANS 4:29 and 5:4
CHARLATON!
doctorh2005 1 year ago
@HaRdzstylerR
/// your Satanic perversion like NIV omits WITH OUT A CAUSE. ///
You obviously havent read the footnote at the bottom of the page...
It says, "Only SOME manuscripts contain the words 'without cause'
haha :-P
/// Jesus was angry ///
Thats because there's no law saying "God can't be angry".
God hardens the hearts of the reprobate so they can never believe and see the truth - is He wrong in doing that?
doctorh2005 1 year ago
@doctorh2005 You can wipe your perverted ass with your footnotes, it just proves again how Satanic your perverted bible are. JOHN 10:35 IF HE CALLED THEM GODS,UNTO WHOM THE WORD OF GOD CAME,AND THE SCRIPTURE CANNOT BE BROKEN; Scriptures cannot be broken, you dumb FOOL. Stick your footnotes up your donkey.
HaRdzstylerR 1 year ago
doctorh2005 1 year ago
@doctorh2005 I say that your are dumb, Foolish, Bible pervert.1COR13:10BUT WHEN THAT WHICH IS PERFECT,THEN THAT WHICH IS IN PART SHALL BE DONE AWAY.That is an object and it's the Bible your Fool. V.8outside this Perfect Bible,prophecies shall fail,miraculas tongues day of Pentecost are ceased,knowledge vanished away, all the knowledge we need is in the Bible.V9Apostles who wrote the Bible knew in part and prophesied in part, and now it's all in the Bible.V10SO now we have the Perfect Word of God
HaRdzstylerR 1 year ago
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@HaRdzstylerR
/// BUT WHEN THAT WHICH IS PERFECT,THEN THAT WHICH IS IN PART SHALL BE DONE AWAY ///
That verse says NOTHING about the KJV - you are simply ASSUMING it without evidence.
And noone is obligated to follow your subjective opinion - people are only obligated to follow FACTS.
;-)
doctorh2005 1 year ago
@doctorh2005 And all what the apostles knew and prophesied is done away,we dont need any more any revelations, any prophesies which is not in the Bible, or any knowledge which is not Biblical knowledge, it's all complete in the Perfect King James Bible. For u to say that V.10 is about Jesus is lunacy.If you say THAT is Jesus then THAT which is in part shall be done away, so what are you going to cut Jesus in parts?What about Jesus will be done away you dumb Fool? V.11 talks about the maturity.
HaRdzstylerR 1 year ago
@HaRdzstylerR
/// For u to say that V.10 is about Jesus is lunacy ///
Verse 12 says "For now we see only a reflection as in a mirror; then we shall see FACE TO FACE" - He's not talking about SCRIPTURE - he's talking about the abillity to COMPREHEND everything - the process of SANCTIFICATION... WHEN THE PERFECT (the Day of Christ) COMES - and we shall see Christ FACE TO FACE.
You are twisting Pauls letters and proving yourself more and more to be a son of the Devil, as 2Peter 3:16 states.
doctorh2005 1 year ago
@doctorh2005 Listen you dumb nut, when Jesus will appear He will be the same as the Word of God KJV is. And I see his face right now when I read the Word of God,when I read it I am talking to Him, face to face. MATT.24:35 HEAVEN AND EARTH SHALL PASS AWAY,BUT MY WORDS SHALL NOT PASS AWAY. And when Jesus will appear I will be the same as He is.1JOHN3:2BELOVED,NOW ARE WE THE SONS OF GOD,AND IT DOTH NOT YET APPEAR WHAT WE SHALL BE;BUT WE KNOW THAT WHEN HE SHALL APPEAR,WE SHALL BE LIKE HIM;...
HaRdzstylerR 1 year ago
@HaRdzstylerR
/// He will be the same as the Word of God KJV is. ///
Again, you are fallaciously PREsuming the KJV translation to be perfect - if it were perfect it would not have MARGINAL NOTES giving OPTIONAL TRANSLATIONS, like the list I gave you below. The very fact it has MARGINAL NOTES saying "some manuscripts say the opposite" shows its NOT perfect, and just like every other translation out there.
/// I see his face when I read the Word of God ///
What Bible verse says THAT?
doctorh2005 1 year ago
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@HaRdzstylerR
/// KJV is Perfect ///
Which KJV??? It was revised four times, the last being in 1769.
If the KJV translators were inspired, why did they use A MARGINAL REFERENCE to the APOCRYPHA?
/// all other perversions is made for a Devil's like U. R ///
I would be VERY careful calling one of God's adopted sons a "DEVIL".... "Whoever hates his brother is a MURDERER" (1John3:15)
doctorh2005 1 year ago
@HaRdzstylerR
/// Originals are pure word of God, do you have them ? ///
We don't have to have the Originals. We have over 25,000 COPIES of the originals - the EARLIEST, in fact, and therefore the MOST ACCURATE manuscripts. The KJV is taken from the MOST RECENT written manuscripts, and have added verses to them, and are not as accurate as the ESV, NIV etc.
/// you are sick ///
Yes...sick AND TIRED of your BLA BLA BLA BLA..!
doctorh2005 1 year ago
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/// and they know more about human nature... ///
Erm, thats because the Word of God TELLS us Pete??? - that we are "BY NATURE" children of wrath and enemies of God? (EPH.2:3)... that we are BY NATURE sinners?
doctorh2005 1 year ago
Fundamentalist KJV-only types are the scariest folks ever.
sungis 1 year ago
@sungis They are only scary if you are an unsaved unregenerate man who's headed for hell, OR if you are a backslidden Christian who is more worried about racial and cultural issues than you are your own individual sin and all you can think about is "being NICE to people." LOL. God bless Peter Ruckman and any man who stands to the death for that blessed KJV! Amen.
jondabill 1 year ago
@jondabill Well, I am not back-slidden. I am a believer. And you, my friend, are legalistic, have a very distorted view of the KJV manuscripts, and no little of God's grace. Jesus loves you, bud.
sungis 1 year ago
@sungis You are a believer in WHAT? I am not legalistic, I live by grace through faith, but I will not subject myself to a scholarship that is so blind as to accept Roman Catholic readings OVER my english protestant reformation bible. I am in the minority but I am in the right, praise in the Lord. Don't mistake strong preaching for having little or no grace. Jesus loves us, yes, but that doesn't give us license to reject his perfect book on the grounds that it is "too hard to understand."
jondabill 1 year ago
@jondabill I reject it because the manuscripts...
sungis 1 year ago
@sungis Oh that's right, you wish to go with the OLDEST and "Best" manuscripts which are not as old as Tatian's Diatesseron which agrees with the KJV readings and AGAINST the Vaticanus. It was there 200 years before Vaticanus or Sinaiticus was penned.
jondabill 1 year ago
@sungis You are lost fool, with your Satanic perversions you are born of the Devil, and you are child of the Devil for perverting the ways of the Lord ACTS 13:10 KJV. Legalistic ? This is the most Satanic excuse you can ever come up with. How do you know about God with out His Perfect Word ? You are dumb NUT ? Hard to understand ? You must be joking, English is my 5th tongue and I understand KJV perfectly. And if you dumb nut dont understand,go and ask your pastor, he will open your blind eyes.
HaRdzstylerR 1 year ago
@HaRdzstylerR Wow, so much LOVE from my brethren in Christ. Does your KJV encourage you to do this? The KJV isn't evil, it just has some minor errors. The language is nice and I love it... but it is no where close to perfect because of the translation issues and the manuscripts.
sungis 1 year ago
@sungis Unlike our friend HaRdzstylerR, I don't cosign you to Hell...lol. I just know you to be misinformed. If you trust the blood of Christ alone for your salvation, then you are my brother. Now...show me these errors that I might believe. The KJV IS perfect, the perfect word of God for the english speaking people. Fill me in.
jondabill 1 year ago
@jondabill The following is a question my friend sent me: How can you accept that the Textus Receptus is perfect and error free when Acts 9:6 is found only in the Latin Vulgate but absolutely no Greek manuscript known to man? Further, how come in Rev 22:19 the phrase "book of life" is used in the KJV when absolutely ALL known Greek manuscripts read "tree of life"? There are plenty of other issues in the KJV.
ANYWAY, thank you for the tolerance. Be blessed!
sungis 1 year ago
@sungis This Heretic rejects the Perfect Word of God KJV, and he will be in heaven. Wow,!Show me the verse when it says that?ACTS 13:10 AND SAID,O FULL OF ALL MISCHIEF,THOU CHILD OF THE DEVIL,THOU ENEMY OF ALL RIGHTEOUSNESS,WILT THOU NOT CEASE TO PERVERT THE RIGHT WAYS OF THE LORD?Bible perverts are the children of the Devil,and who is they Father.JOHN8:44YE ARE OF YOUR FATHER THE DEVIL,AND THE LUSTS OF YOUR FATHER YE WILL DO.HE WAS A MURDERER FROM THE BEGINNING AND ABODE NOT IN THE TRUTH,......
HaRdzstylerR 1 year ago 4
@HaRdzstylerR
/// This Heretic rejects the Perfect Word of God KJV ///
Prove the KJV is the "perfect inspired translation".
doctorh2005 1 year ago
@doctorh2005 2 TIMOTHY 3:16 ALL SCRIPTURE IS GIVEN BY INSPIRATION OF GOD,AND IS PROFITABLE FOR DOCTRINE,FOR REPROOF,FOR CORRECTION,FOR INSTRUCTION IN RIGHTEOUSNESS;There is your proof dumb doctor that KJV is perfect inspired translation.You want to fight with God go a head dumb Rebel.
HaRdzstylerR 1 year ago
@HaRdzstylerR
/// 2 TIMOTHY 3:16 ALL SCRIPTURE IS GIVEN BY INSPIRATION OF GOD ///
Where does the KJV version come into this??? It says NOTHING specifically about the KING JAMES VERSION.
You didn't answer my question.
TRY AGAIN!!
doctorh2005 1 year ago
@doctorh2005 What do you want me to answer ? So what are you saying that English speaking people dont have the Perfect Inspired Word of God ? You quoted verse from Eph.2:3. From what bible do you quote ? If you have one, or maybe many.
HaRdzstylerR 1 year ago
@HaRdzstylerR with all due respect, our friend Sungis doesn't deserve that kind of treatment. He might be a brother, I don't know, but he has just learned at the feet of the wrong people. I understand your passion, but lets show a little grace. haha, you know, "be ye wise as serpents and HARMLESS as doves."
jondabill 1 year ago
I feel sorry for this man, he rejected the Only Church founded by Jesus...No matter what excuses he may have, he IS a Catholic priest, will always be a priest no matter where he hides. And for betraying Jesus and Jesus' Church he will be accountable.
apologeticacatolica 1 year ago
@apologeticacatolica Haha, correct me if I am wrong, but am I to assume that you are calling Dr. Ruckman a Catholic priest?
jondabill 1 year ago
false prophet
Gideom007 1 year ago
@Gideom007 And you are DUMB prophet....
HaRdzstylerR 1 year ago