@jornwar Eh ja dat klopt, maar wat wil je daar mee zeggen, ga je nu een kip met een mens vergelijken? Als je mij daar ook nog een wetenschappelijke verklaring van kunt geven waarom dat zo is. Veel wetenschappers kunnen dat namelijk niet eens. Trouwens als je een kip z;'n kop afhakt is dat natuurlijk geen hartaanval, maar het leidt onherroepelijk tot een definitieve hartstilstand bij de kip. Dus bij deze klopt mijn redenatie van gister. Hehe
@jornwar Oh wacht even, dus een kip loopt z'n hele leven rond met een permanente hoeveelheid adrenaline in z'n kippen lichaam, is dat wat je wil zeggen? Lekkere vergelijking om een hartkwaal (want daar gaat het vaak om bij topsporters) op een lijn wil zetten met de zeer onnatuurlijke dood van een kip zonder kop?
@nijland84 Dus eigenlijk wil je zeggen dat je hart niet tot stilstand komt wanneer het aangevallen wordt? Elke hartaanval leidt tot een hartstilstand, alleen niet elke hartstilstand komt door een hartaanval. Zijn hart kwam tot stilstand geen twijfel mogelijk, alleen werd het even later aan de praat gekregen door de pacemaker.
zijn hart kwam niet tot stilstand maar had een fout ritme, de pacemaker zet het hart dan even stil zodat het hart daarna weer zelf het goede ritme op pakt
ik zie dat ik een fout antwoordt heb gegeven, de voetballer heeft geen pacemaker maar een interne defibrillator. Het verschil is dat een pacemaker het tempo van iemands hart bepaalt terwijl een interne defibrillator alleen in actie komt als iemand een fout ritme heeft. Deze zet het hart dan stil en het hart start daarna meestal weer vanzelf op.
@wouzenhoofd Dit is geen hartstilstand, hooguit een fleuwte. Bij een hartstilstand gaat het slachtoffer echt niet na een halve minuut weer zitten . Nee, je lult niet dom.
@19JK79 jullie lullen beide redelijk dom^^ Kunt mss ne keer wat opzoekingswerk doen voor ge hier de slimme komt uithangen , Van Loo heeft een deffilibrator in zn borst ingebouwd , hij had wel een hartstilstand rond 0:14 zie je dat de deffilibrator een schok geeft waardoor zn hart weer begint te slaan , hij heeft een aangeboren afwijking....
Because of that thing that shocked him. It was well known he had heart problems so they planted that little device on his heart so he could be revived immediately if his heart should stop beating.
It's not a treatment specific for athletes with a condition. Everyone who suffers from Ventricular or atrial fibrillation is entitled to an ICD, when a pacemaker won't suffice. I'm not that well traversed with cardiac diseases, so these are the only two examples I can think of.
Great news that the ICD worked and saved his life - the question I have is what is the reason for his ICD? Even with a device some people should not be participating in sports - This is really an amazing video!
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they wouldn't use a defibrillator with his shirt still on it would set his shirt on fire plus that guy in the teal shirt didn't have anything in his hands.
He had an internal defibrillator. He had obviously had a ventricular tachycardia history to have the device inserted already.
These defibrillators can shock when the heart is at different rates depending on the setting. I would think his was set fairly high to allow him to run as much as he has to in football (soccer).
oh fuck......what so what if someone was to just scare him and his heart was to skip a jump would that thing shock him? Or does the heart have to reach a certain temperature?
What did happen (prof Pedro Brugada, his heart specialist explained in newspaper): his haert beated 400 times a minut during 12 to 15 seconds. It's called a cardial arrest, but mechanical, his heart did'n stop, but due to the speed of beating, it coudn't pump the blood throught his body. The effect with a cardial arrest is the same. After 6 seconds, he fell down. Then the defibrillator gave a shock of 700 Volt. His heartbeat became normal. The defibrillator has also an sending device to the prof
In a way, it's a nice video in terms how valuable technology is and what it is capable.
This could have gone very badly if he didn't have the ICD implanted, now it's merely a showcase of how good it works. He even went on to celebrate his team's victory (which saved them from relegation) after he got back from the hospital.
mysteryjedi is right. it wasn't a heart attack, which can be thought of as a "plumbing" issue) but went into cardiac arrest due to arrhythmia (an "electrical" issue). He would have likely died od SCD (sudden cardiac death) if not for the ICD implant, CPR seldom helps in these instances and he would have had about 4 minutes to get defibbed.
And likely it is HCM (hypertrophic cardiomyopathy).
What's amazing is that they (the team/league) let him play competitive sports with the disease. It'snot something he should have been doing...especially at a high level. Basketball, soccer (football), rugby, running, are the worst thing he could be doing. ICDs can't fix everything.
I have HCM (diagnosed a year ago) and had to stop local rugby because of it. It's forces a lot of really shitty lifestyle changes, especially cause you usually feel fine and think you can do anything normal.
My ICD goes in in 3 weeks. It is kinda hard to watch this video, it was posted on my rugby teams email list. It freaked me out a bit knowing that could have been me and as I didn't have an ICD while playing I likely wouldn't have gotten back up. Many on my team don't know why I quit....guess this opens the door to that email. ugh.
Actually, giannisful, clover619123 is correct...the player did NOT have a heart attack (which is loss of blood flow to an area of heart muscle with resultant death of that area of muscle). What happened was an arrhythmia (abnormal rhythm of cardiac contraction). Defibrillators are useless in heart attacks but are very effective in resetting the heart's rhythm. I'm betting he has hypertrophic cardiomyopathy.
Oh, and I'm a medical student, so I actually do know what I'm talking about.
he didnt have a heart attack. a heart attack is when a specific area of the heart is lacking oxygen and blood is not being profused to the area. what he had was a sudden heart arrhythmia. it is an irregular rhythm of the heart that can be deadly. with his defibrillator, the shock was able to reset his heart rhythm to a normal.
I thought people usually get some warning signs before a heart attack. I'd be interested to know if he had anything like chest pains in the moments leading up to his collapse. It would be scary to think that this could happen to anyone without any warning, especially if you happen to be alone.
I don't think he had a heart attack. His heart just stop beating just like that. You don't feel pain like an heart attack. You feel weird, you're heart is beating irregularly, but you don't feel pain.
My neighbor suffers from Cardiac arrhythmia.
Once his heart started to beat at 190 (an opposite effect that might happen as well as the heart stopping) for no reason but he had the time to take his pills and to call 911. Fortunately, he never passed out and he never felt any pain, just weird.
It's exactly the way you told it. No pain, but so weird that you can feel panic. And afterwards, when the crisis is over you feel pretty excausted. My father has it, so i know how they feel. This guy Van Loo knew about his problem and he has a Defibrillator which saved his life.
not a doctor but a defibrillator saved his life after a cardiac arrest
van loo was known to have cardiologic problems so to be sure doctors gave him a defibrillator in case his heart stopped (which it did in the game against antwerp)
correct. he has a heart condition that led to the implantation of one a couple years ago -- what you see in this video is that he had a heart attack, and the defibrillator autonomously kicked in and restarted his heart -- you can see the electric shock at 0:14 jolting him back to life. a very cool piece of medical science, certainly.
u need to ask Vanloo by yourself he is the one who knows exactly his heart stopped for few seconds not cause its going to fast Defribilator is for heartstops peacemaker is for beating to fast U need to be in the case xD
Is geen kwestie van geluk, daar heeft hij dat apparaatje (ICD) voor... Heb er zelf ook een en ben kan daardoor zelf ook sporten! (al kan ik niet echt voetballen)
he had a heart attack -- he was diagnosed with heart problems a couple years back, and implanted with an internal defibrillator, which is such a cool piece of technology. he had a heart attack, and the defibrillator autonomously kicked in and restarted his heart -- you can see the electric shock at 0:14
Ongelooflijk dat ze die jongen nog op dat niveau laten spelen. Het heeft nen ingeplante defib. en dan denken ze dat ze de dood onbeperkt in de ogen kunnen zien. Trek er lessen uit kerel.
Het hele bestuur is het.
kulter20 4 months ago
wow, en wat te denken als je zo een aanval krijgt midden in een belangrijk duel vlak voor het doel...
12123188 1 year ago
@12123188 gebeurt niet, dan heb je adrenaline, en daarmee blijf je nog in leven
jornwar 11 months ago
@jornwar Je bent dom, ooit van een aneurysma gehoord? Dat wacht niet tot je uitgerend bent.
Coleine 8 months ago
@Coleine een kip loopt tog ook door als je zn kop eraf hakt
jornwar 8 months ago
@jornwar Eh ja dat klopt, maar wat wil je daar mee zeggen, ga je nu een kip met een mens vergelijken? Als je mij daar ook nog een wetenschappelijke verklaring van kunt geven waarom dat zo is. Veel wetenschappers kunnen dat namelijk niet eens. Trouwens als je een kip z;'n kop afhakt is dat natuurlijk geen hartaanval, maar het leidt onherroepelijk tot een definitieve hartstilstand bij de kip. Dus bij deze klopt mijn redenatie van gister. Hehe
Coleine 8 months ago
@jornwar Oh wacht even, dus een kip loopt z'n hele leven rond met een permanente hoeveelheid adrenaline in z'n kippen lichaam, is dat wat je wil zeggen? Lekkere vergelijking om een hartkwaal (want daar gaat het vaak om bij topsporters) op een lijn wil zetten met de zeer onnatuurlijke dood van een kip zonder kop?
Coleine 8 months ago
Nou, dit is géén hartstilstand. Ik denk eerder een hartaanval een (lichte)
nijland84 1 year ago
@nijland84 Dus eigenlijk wil je zeggen dat je hart niet tot stilstand komt wanneer het aangevallen wordt? Elke hartaanval leidt tot een hartstilstand, alleen niet elke hartstilstand komt door een hartaanval. Zijn hart kwam tot stilstand geen twijfel mogelijk, alleen werd het even later aan de praat gekregen door de pacemaker.
Coleine 8 months ago
@Coleine Oke, ik wist niet dat hij een pacemaker had. Thanks voor tekst en uitleg, weet ik dat ook wéér.
Groet
nijland84 8 months ago
zijn hart kwam niet tot stilstand maar had een fout ritme, de pacemaker zet het hart dan even stil zodat het hart daarna weer zelf het goede ritme op pakt
groetjes
12hoihoi34 2 months ago
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ik zie dat ik een fout antwoordt heb gegeven, de voetballer heeft geen pacemaker maar een interne defibrillator. Het verschil is dat een pacemaker het tempo van iemands hart bepaalt terwijl een interne defibrillator alleen in actie komt als iemand een fout ritme heeft. Deze zet het hart dan stil en het hart start daarna meestal weer vanzelf op.
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nijland84 1 year ago
@nijland84 jawel, het is wel een hartstilstand, maar hij heeft er zo een apparaat voor geimplanteerd gekregen. eff lezen naar die reacties boven je.
12123188 1 year ago
does he still live?
mybulletfan100 1 year ago
@mybulletfan100 yes ;)
RaFcPaSsIoN 1 year ago
@RaFcPaSsIoN oh ok good
mybulletfan100 1 year ago
oh my.. Poor guy
LilSayo 1 year ago
ALLE VANLOO ALLE VANLOO!!!!
MrVanbroeke 1 year ago
eng
Whattube007 1 year ago
een hartstilstand?
dan moet hij toch gereanimeerd worden?
of lul ik nu dom :p
wouzenhoofd 1 year ago
@wouzenhoofd Dit is geen hartstilstand, hooguit een fleuwte. Bij een hartstilstand gaat het slachtoffer echt niet na een halve minuut weer zitten . Nee, je lult niet dom.
19JK79 1 year ago
@19JK79 jullie lullen beide redelijk dom^^ Kunt mss ne keer wat opzoekingswerk doen voor ge hier de slimme komt uithangen , Van Loo heeft een deffilibrator in zn borst ingebouwd , hij had wel een hartstilstand rond 0:14 zie je dat de deffilibrator een schok geeft waardoor zn hart weer begint te slaan , hij heeft een aangeboren afwijking....
Mynxor 1 year ago
@Mynxor je hebt gelijk, ik heb het later opgezocht, sorry.
19JK79 1 year ago
van loo is me vader ze broer
TheWoodBollyEdgarovi 1 year ago
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boeiend
lenneman77 1 year ago
The "defrilibrator" or something has given him a shock, you should watch that at 0:12 , that made him stand up again , it saved his life!
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yes weird do
why is he allowed to play if he has an heart dissease?
FrederiqueValerio 2 years ago
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Because of that thing that shocked him. It was well known he had heart problems so they planted that little device on his heart so he could be revived immediately if his heart should stop beating.
Fredman1313 2 years ago
@tuningmaster60 it was an ICD. a shock device planted in the heart of athletes with a condition
gatorfan122394 2 years ago
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It's not a treatment specific for athletes with a condition. Everyone who suffers from Ventricular or atrial fibrillation is entitled to an ICD, when a pacemaker won't suffice. I'm not that well traversed with cardiac diseases, so these are the only two examples I can think of.
havoc873 1 year ago
Thank You all for the reactions !
En nog eens bedankt voor de steun aan iedereeen, ook aan RAFC..
Vanloo20 2 years ago 17
@Vanloo20 Ben blij dat nu alles inorde gekomen is voor jou :)
Robinkrcgenk 1 month ago
happened so sudden... weird
Numsefisk25 2 years ago 3
i want a pacemaker just in case this ever happened to me
quest8899 2 years ago
BIOTRONIK rules!!!!
Probably a Lumax 340 DR-T
raphagueredo 2 years ago
hello,,boston scientific ,.......... : )
MrBadbhob67 2 years ago
my dad has had one of them fitted they are awsomez
SamiHami13 2 years ago
Anthony van Loo olé olé Anthony Anthony Anthony Van Loo
I hope u can still playing it would be a great support to our city. I wish u luck but u need to watch out.
edderd8 2 years ago 2
Great to see he's ok. Nice little piece of technique and science.
Stupid question, is he allowed to drive a car?
I mean if attacks like this can happen any time it could be kinda dangerous.
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Akerz18 2 years ago
He is still alive i seen this on the news and they said that he will recover from this incident.
DominickYordy 2 years ago
Great news that the ICD worked and saved his life - the question I have is what is the reason for his ICD? Even with a device some people should not be participating in sports - This is really an amazing video!
We wish him all the best!
HCMAUSA 2 years ago
WTF 0:14 scary or what, electric shock kicks in !! then his ok, "aint tha aboutabitch",,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
AlphaDog147 2 years ago
He dropped to the floor because his heart was beating 300BPM (the device measured it)
He did not have a cardiac arrest, although a heartbeat that high can probably lead to cardiac attack or cardiac arrest.
One or two days after he dropped to the floor,
he felt as healthy as ever before.
SO HE IS ALIVE PEOPLE
xx837 2 years ago
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lawyervillarica 2 years ago
they wouldn't use a defibrillator with his shirt still on it would set his shirt on fire plus that guy in the teal shirt didn't have anything in his hands.
DirectConnection1 2 years ago
It's implanted in his body.
punkkonijn 2 years ago
He had an internal defibrillator. He had obviously had a ventricular tachycardia history to have the device inserted already.
These defibrillators can shock when the heart is at different rates depending on the setting. I would think his was set fairly high to allow him to run as much as he has to in football (soccer).
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WeLoveSwagBucks 2 years ago
oh fuck......what so what if someone was to just scare him and his heart was to skip a jump would that thing shock him? Or does the heart have to reach a certain temperature?
socalkickboxer 2 years ago
it has to be stopped for 4 seconds,then he gets a shock
lornam21 2 years ago
200-300bpm then it goes off
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bikehk 2 years ago
What did happen (prof Pedro Brugada, his heart specialist explained in newspaper): his haert beated 400 times a minut during 12 to 15 seconds. It's called a cardial arrest, but mechanical, his heart did'n stop, but due to the speed of beating, it coudn't pump the blood throught his body. The effect with a cardial arrest is the same. After 6 seconds, he fell down. Then the defibrillator gave a shock of 700 Volt. His heartbeat became normal. The defibrillator has also an sending device to the prof
dominiquesoete 2 years ago
... so that within a minute tha prof saw on his pc what happened. A brilliant piece of technologie he got in august 2008.
dominiquesoete 2 years ago
so is his thing he has implanted basically lyk a shock restart for his heart??
Stunaldo 2 years ago
yep,without it he would have died
lornam21 2 years ago
In a way, it's a nice video in terms how valuable technology is and what it is capable.
This could have gone very badly if he didn't have the ICD implanted, now it's merely a showcase of how good it works. He even went on to celebrate his team's victory (which saved them from relegation) after he got back from the hospital.
BulenW 2 years ago
bende dopers!
Yurmamaismybitch 2 years ago
That is intense! Much respect to technology!
afo70 2 years ago 2
yikes!
baa5000 2 years ago
mysteryjedi is right. it wasn't a heart attack, which can be thought of as a "plumbing" issue) but went into cardiac arrest due to arrhythmia (an "electrical" issue). He would have likely died od SCD (sudden cardiac death) if not for the ICD implant, CPR seldom helps in these instances and he would have had about 4 minutes to get defibbed.
And likely it is HCM (hypertrophic cardiomyopathy).
harpsealSJ 2 years ago
What's amazing is that they (the team/league) let him play competitive sports with the disease. It'snot something he should have been doing...especially at a high level. Basketball, soccer (football), rugby, running, are the worst thing he could be doing. ICDs can't fix everything.
I have HCM (diagnosed a year ago) and had to stop local rugby because of it. It's forces a lot of really shitty lifestyle changes, especially cause you usually feel fine and think you can do anything normal.
harpsealSJ 2 years ago
My ICD goes in in 3 weeks. It is kinda hard to watch this video, it was posted on my rugby teams email list. It freaked me out a bit knowing that could have been me and as I didn't have an ICD while playing I likely wouldn't have gotten back up. Many on my team don't know why I quit....guess this opens the door to that email. ugh.
harpsealSJ 2 years ago
Actually, giannisful, clover619123 is correct...the player did NOT have a heart attack (which is loss of blood flow to an area of heart muscle with resultant death of that area of muscle). What happened was an arrhythmia (abnormal rhythm of cardiac contraction). Defibrillators are useless in heart attacks but are very effective in resetting the heart's rhythm. I'm betting he has hypertrophic cardiomyopathy.
Oh, and I'm a medical student, so I actually do know what I'm talking about.
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clover619123 shut up your mouth idiot.he would die there.are u a doctor and u know what happend there?f**k of
giannisful 2 years ago
he didnt have a heart attack. a heart attack is when a specific area of the heart is lacking oxygen and blood is not being profused to the area. what he had was a sudden heart arrhythmia. it is an irregular rhythm of the heart that can be deadly. with his defibrillator, the shock was able to reset his heart rhythm to a normal.
clover619123 2 years ago
I thought people usually get some warning signs before a heart attack. I'd be interested to know if he had anything like chest pains in the moments leading up to his collapse. It would be scary to think that this could happen to anyone without any warning, especially if you happen to be alone.
k0ugar 2 years ago
I don't think he had a heart attack. His heart just stop beating just like that. You don't feel pain like an heart attack. You feel weird, you're heart is beating irregularly, but you don't feel pain.
My neighbor suffers from Cardiac arrhythmia.
Once his heart started to beat at 190 (an opposite effect that might happen as well as the heart stopping) for no reason but he had the time to take his pills and to call 911. Fortunately, he never passed out and he never felt any pain, just weird.
GoodFellasOne 2 years ago
i think the players had a arythmia, his heart beats too much fast so he stopped
diablocarlo 2 years ago
It's exactly the way you told it. No pain, but so weird that you can feel panic. And afterwards, when the crisis is over you feel pretty excausted. My father has it, so i know how they feel. This guy Van Loo knew about his problem and he has a Defibrillator which saved his life.
hanselkksc 2 years ago
Anthony sterkte van heel rotterdam en FEYENOORD
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JesFeyenoord 2 years ago
hij is niet dood !
foOotyy 2 years ago
Haha, die neger links :p
B2800BE 2 years ago
Anthony sterkte, ik hoop dat je er weer boven op komt.
Groeten uit Nederland!
ZaklampAjax 2 years ago 2
not a doctor but a defibrillator saved his life after a cardiac arrest
van loo was known to have cardiologic problems so to be sure doctors gave him a defibrillator in case his heart stopped (which it did in the game against antwerp)
Buffalohomer 2 years ago
but he has a implantable defibrillator?
diablocarlo 2 years ago 2
correct. he has a heart condition that led to the implantation of one a couple years ago -- what you see in this video is that he had a heart attack, and the defibrillator autonomously kicked in and restarted his heart -- you can see the electric shock at 0:14 jolting him back to life. a very cool piece of medical science, certainly.
Recoil42 2 years ago
His heart didn't stop. It was beating too fast and the defibrillator sends a shock that resets the firing through thre nodes.
mickey2050 2 years ago 3
his heart did stop for 4 seconds! and then the defibrillator has given a shock to start the hartbeating again!
vandewaeterethomas 2 years ago
u need to ask Vanloo by yourself he is the one who knows exactly his heart stopped for few seconds not cause its going to fast Defribilator is for heartstops peacemaker is for beating to fast U need to be in the case xD
edderd8 2 years ago
Ik had het nog niet gezien. Het blijven rare beelden: Foé, Feher, Puerto hebben minder geluk gehad... Veel beterschap toegewenst.
dav7382 2 years ago
Is geen kwestie van geluk, daar heeft hij dat apparaatje (ICD) voor... Heb er zelf ook een en ben kan daardoor zelf ook sporten! (al kan ik niet echt voetballen)
zappertje 2 years ago
someone speaks english or italian to explain what happened?
diablocarlo 2 years ago
Ha avuto un attacco cardiaco, un po come puerta penso, solo che son riusciti a salvarlo!!
crazy4ibra 2 years ago
he was in cardiac arrest for a moment
Myth1cFtW 2 years ago
The guy who falls on the image had a heart attack and he survived with luck.
Thank god that he survived :D
abmc4444 2 years ago
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he had a cardiac arrest, thanks to the team docter he was sort of saved. hospital says he'll be fine
hansriksen 2 years ago
he had a heart attack -- he was diagnosed with heart problems a couple years back, and implanted with an internal defibrillator, which is such a cool piece of technology. he had a heart attack, and the defibrillator autonomously kicked in and restarted his heart -- you can see the electric shock at 0:14
Recoil42 2 years ago 25
@Recoil42
completely correct!
GeneralCE91 7 months ago
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his hard stops beating
cr7jellisr10 2 years ago
toch ongelofelijk beeld. die schok en enkele seconde later weer wakker.
Zou persoonlijk niet meer willen sporten op hoogste niveau
moeskroen1 2 years ago
Ongelooflijk dat ze die jongen nog op dat niveau laten spelen. Het heeft nen ingeplante defib. en dan denken ze dat ze de dood onbeperkt in de ogen kunnen zien. Trek er lessen uit kerel.
Toerevla 2 years ago
Veel beterschap Anthony !
ksvrgille1234 2 years ago
chance da da ding goe werkt :o
Sjemoone 2 years ago
Beterschap gewenst!
resignin 2 years ago
Pfff... Verschrikkelijk.
azon789 2 years ago
veel te zot
best dadde der zijt door gekomen he makker
bertenmayo13 2 years ago