Let me ask you people something,Would you be surprised, That two gang rivals killed each other.Or tried to harm one another.That is like being surprised that, A Crip murdered a Blood. Now let me also ask you, Who was Tupac going to war with,In his music and especially in real life. Listen to his diss records or A.k.A songs.The main two people or a few that are really up and mentioned are probably his real killers, Or should I say murder planners.We all know who set up,staged and murdered Tupac.
@AntonBatey Yeah I believe exactly what you said man, A whole lot of the people that believe that Suge Knight set up and staged Tupac's murder,Which is the the same scenario, These Are pretty much the people who are not serious and smart.These people can not be very smart,The reason why I partially say this is because,Who in the hell is going to be really surprised that someone,Would be set up or killed by their enemy or arch rival. That's like being surprised that a Blood Killed a Crip.
@Anton bailey You are so right and smart about everything dealing with Tupac's killing,And his murder investigation.Everybody else seems so caught up on all these stupid ass theories. And very wrong reasons why the late great Tupac Shakur was murdered.Do not get me wrong I believe in a whole lot of conspiracy theories,As a matter of fact I love them,But not every one of them is right,And in this case most are wrong.Suge knight did not kill Tupac.The Illuminati probably didn't either. Stop lying.
Finally we find out the truth.... I got the book today am on reading tooo cant wait for you to upload the whole interview..so like u sed u wud ask who ordered the hit on the southsidecrips...suge or the bloods..?
Good stuff how long did u interview him for and i bet u asked everylittle thing about both murders......soo whats your conclusion on both murderss....???
Your interviewing him tonite that was quick nice.. upload it as soon as you can after you done it ...... Looking foward to it ask all the nitty gritty stuff to him.....lol
As like you am a sucka for detail i saw in a forum a while back finch and brim and.monk were used as badboys security wen on the west ....any thoughts maybe this is the reason they were shot possible?? Also i always wondered who actully called that shot on the.southside crips ....suge knight or the bloods themselfs so many questions need to be answered.... Any thoughts??
Nice anton cant wait for the interview...me personally feel.there is a few plot holes surrounding.the murders... For example...anton lets say the ppl that were named in the white cad are correct(lane,keffe d,t-brown,dre smith) why werent they named in the alfdavit,why was brooks,brim,finch named as been in the car with lane if they were not even in the cad really confusing n why do u think brim,finch was shot was it.simply cause they were southsidecrips??????
Well, you have to remember that Tim Brennan’s affidavit was completed on September 25th, a mere two weeks (less actually) after the murder. Even Tim Brennan, when I interviewed him, said the people named in the Cadillac were not totally correct, but the gist was right (that they were Southside Crips).
Yer thats a good idea about making a review.ov sum sort about "murder rap" like i sed few things seem dead on others am not sure about like for example p diddy conspirying to kill suge and pac before that whole mgm.fight etc...as we all know diddy seemed scared as fuck ov suge so i doubt he wud put a hit out on.him ...
@ Anton... Man I have followed Tupac basically all my life im 27 and I think you are right on with these interviews and videos..The fact is that Tupac was not 100% street and I totally agree that he rushed the wrong person...That person being Orlando and that it was simply a retaliation. My first tape was 2Pacalypse Now in 1991 I was 7 years old and a kid at my school let me borrow it after that I went out and bought it. I will always be a fan.Pac was not a dope dealer,or gang banger but a poet
a story teller,activist,and in my opinion if he had lived a politician. I followed him so much that I felt like I knew him,he had that effect...He simply got caught up in some shit that he did not have complete knowledge of,even certain members of the outlaws have stated that,I just wish people would quit butchering his music and let his legacy as all of those things that he was and still is live on...Much love from me.
Ok just msg my account peace outt illl add 1 thing about it dnt want to spoil it but i think its ridiclous i think u may agree kading claims p diddy was already going to put a hit out on suge n pac and was askin keffe d and sum crip.called zip to do it.for 1 million cause diddy was fearing suge was gona strike first so that fight.at the mgm just kickstarted something that was already in plans...
I think I know the general content of the book, although I am a stickler for details, so I’m sure I’ll enjoy the book. However, any claim that P. Diddy had Tupac killed, I’m sure I’ll be skeptical of.
An.uncle out there in.cali and.was telling us that word.in compton is.that it was either orlando or keffe d who pulled the.trigger its debatable thats why i.feel the.pinning it on the deadguy comes into it....
Just ordered it a few minutes ago. Thanks for the reminder. It should not take me too long to read once I get it. I’ll report back to you when I finish reading it.
@AntonBatey U should do a rebuttal video immediately after u read the book. I think that there's a lot of things that u need 2 clarify or also u might learn somethin that would shed light on your perspective.
I will certainly make a review after I read the book. I’ll even try to interview the author. However, I’m not sure if it will be a rebuttal, an endorsement or a combination of the two. I always have an open mind and am quick to admit if I’m wrong, if I am.
@smokey5100 I got the book this morning, and am now reading it for the second time. I read it in about 2-3 hours, and could not put it down. I am going to be interviewing Greg Kading within the next few days. I think what he said is certainly plausible. The notion that we have that P. Diddy wouldn’t have someone killed might be blatant ignorance. Page 155-159 had me zoned out.
Yes its a good book you should defo order it anton its a good read.. I.have researched pacs n bigs death alot.not as much as you..but me personally read all russel.poole radan suvvllan and all other rubbish books but.i.think greg kading has pretty much cracked the cases as for biggies killer if he is correct saying its a mobpiru called poochie the dude is stil alive n.breathing which is pretty intresting..another intresting thing is 1 ov.my friends has ....
To make sense about who keffe d says was in the white cad in his confesstion in murder rap... He also is never asked weather t-brown or deandre smith are stil alive he also claims orlando was the actul shooter which i think cud be debatable seen as orlando.isnt alive and he cud just be shifting the blame on a deadman... Wats your thoughts ???....
Regarding Amir Muhammad, I have never thought that Muhammad/Billups killed Biggie. When people ask me my opinion about Biggie’s murder, I’m reluctant to answer because of the colossal lack of any available evidence. The statement about “pinning it on a dead man” seems plausible, except that it was pinned on him by informants long before he died in May, 1998.
Hey anton whats your opinion on greg kadings new book murder rap.... He claims baby lane,keffe d ,t-brown,deandre smith was in the white cadalic not the ppl u asked to tim brannan ....(baby lane,davion brooks,darnel brim,boby finch).... He also says amir muhammed was not biggies killer but a mob piru bloodz memeber named poochie wats your thoughts about all that because if i remember tim brannan did say it wasnt the ppl u named wen u named the ppl u thought ws in the white cad so it seems....
I think that the men named in the Cadillac could be right. There is a margin of error within about two people or so. When people like me proclaim that “Orlando Anderson did it”, we are generally saying that “Crips did it”, even if Anderson wasn’t specifically the shooter. I haven’t read Kadings book yet – I have been busy with other things, but I’ll order the book later tonight.
I'm wating for your next interview. I know your leaning on the crips doing it, but I think the feds were involved. If it was just the crips they would have solved it within a week. Open and shut case. Deathrow was being heavily monitored. They watched him take damn near 5 minutes to exit the casino after the Orlando Fight and they were definetly watching him on the street. What do u think?
@antonbatey I would like to thank you Mr. Batey. I have listened to all of your detective interviews. even cathy scott interview. These interviews have helped a lot by keeping the story alive. These interviews are priceless. Dude asked why u so interested in Pac and that u sound like a fed agent. F that, u ask the questions that millions of people want to know. Pac was the biggest icon in our time.Keep digging into this legendary mystery. I'm waiting for your next interview.
@antonbatey why are you so instrested in pac that's what I would like know and you seem like a federal agent who likes to argue what's really good with u
@AntonBatey Question for you Anton. The players that supposedly were in that car with Orlando were Darnell Brim, Bobby Finch and Keith "Keefee D" David. I've also heard the name Devion Brooks. Are any of these guys still alive and if so, who?
@aldeb456: Yeah, more and more. With all of the new info coming out, I think Ive put together a pretty good picture of how everything went down. If Ive learned anything from these two cases is that most of what you hear FIRST is the truth. Pac told the truth about the people that set him up and in a round about way, those ppl ended up killing him. I know Anton will be the first to say it was Pacs fault, and it is from the pov that it was his actions, However, the chain snatch incident did stem
@Alparkatek631 No, Trevon Lane's chain being snatched didn't have anything to do with Puff or Big. Anton really researched an documented the events as well as the surrounding stuff that went on that night as well as what happened before an after. Suge had nothing to do with Pac's death, but he did with Big's (as well as corrupt LA cops an Amir Muhammad) More an more evidence comes out, the truth will be revealed. The real ques. is, if Pac hadn't signed wit Suge, would he still be alive?
@Alparkatek631 LA Crips had put a ransom up for Death Row chains. Crips were the ones that attacked Trevon Lane an 3 other Death Row Blood members at a Foot Locker in the Lakewood mall in April 96'. Orlando 'Baby Lane' Anderson was the one that took Lane's chain. That's why Lane whispered in Pac's ear on Sept. 7th, an Pac runs up to Anderson, asks, 'are u from the South (meaning southside crips) an sucker punches him. Puff is capable, but he was scared of Suge.
@antonbatey you know as well as I know anything can happen at anytime to a person die no matter what they do to prevent it I don't know if you ever faced death before but trust me a person feels it before it happens
@antonbatey a person fate can be predetermined just listen to dr king the night before he died and his mood was already ruined long before they got pulled but what I would like to is when did you get into pac and are you into pac the person or his music or just his murder
How does that prove that everyone's fate is predetermined. That would mean that we don't have control over our lives. And King was a marked man, so him saying he would die does not mean people's deaths are predetermined. That's such a ridiculous argument.
@AntonBatey What he meant to say, "is that people on the level of a dr.king are ultimatley not responsible for their lives once they hit "the level". Tupac through fame had reached "the level". You go above the level and you have control of minds across all genders, race, and geographic locations. He could have swayed minds both politically,socially, and religiously. But they took him out before his money or influence could create change. Cointel-pro is the keyword.
Tupac was the type of person that COINTEPPRO would want to keep alive because he was a divisive figure within his own community the last few years of his life. Talking what he “would” have done or “could” have done is pure speculation. For all we know, Tupac would have went to prison months into 1997 or 1998 because a) he was probably going to lose the appeal and b) the fight with Anderson would have landed him in prison.
@antonbatey why are so obsessed with pacs murder I don't think anybody could have saved pac that night look at him in that last pic he was gone you see it in his face just look at what went on that night pac is just another young black man cut down in the prime of his life
I don't think peoples fate is predetermined. The reason Tupac had that look on his face was because they were being pulled over by the police, and Tupac was probably thinking, "god damn it.............these fuckin cops.........." and probably ruined his mood for the moment.
@AntonBatey: Man u catch a lot of heat on here? But I think Pac knew he was marked as well, which is why he put out against all odds. I agree with you about the picture tho. I dont think there is any definitive proof on predestination but like u said about Dr. King, when youre living a certain lifestyle, you kinda know where things will head.
this fucking guy refuses to talk about alll the people who knew pac and knew he was leaving death row, he refuses to talk about how he and suge had huge fall outs and if orlando was the only one involved why they didnt close the case
Tupac wasn't leaving Death Row. Makaveli Records was a subsidiary of Death Row, as confirmed by the Outlawz, who were actually going to sign with the label. Tupac also said the same thing on Just Like Daddy when he said, "Death Row Makaveli". Also, Tupac and Suge didnt have a "falling out". A few days before Tupac got shot, Tupac was yelling at Suge about SNOOP'S disloyalty to Death Row. So that, if anything, suggests Tupacs loyalty to Death Row.
You need to actually LISTEN to the interviews before you comment. The answers are there.
And I'll interview/debate anyone, regardless of their viewpoint. It just so happens that the ONLY people who think Knight was behind Tupac's death are people who arent serious.
How about the huge feud between him and biggie? was it all just blown out of proportion? was his death connected to pac's? it's strange how he died what 5 6 months later?
AntonBatey the Illuminati did exist at one point in history look it up. Wether they're still around is another story. They sure as hell didn't kill Tupac though, that was most likely just a retaliation from Orlando Anderson.
Yeah, I agree that the organization existed hundreds of years ago. And actually, the organization is one in which I agree with most of time prime principles. For instance, they were mostly atheists, agnostics or deists who wanted to eradicate the influence the Church had in the State. They are what you would call "freethinkers". Also, they were not that "secret" either, but because most top members were highly educated, it devolved an "elitist" reputation.
you got the wrong sources watching disinfo movies like angels and demons....Research FBI War on Tupac and Black Leader by John Potash. he has alot of hidden information about 2pac's life and death.
Yeah, I read that, and I think Potash is off his rocker. His "sources" are unamed people. I can also write a book and claim anything and say I'm getting the information from unnamed sources.
no disrespect to u mr baley i love ur work and think your awesome but tupac even said i put a k in front of illuminati cuz im killin this illimunati shit thats exactly wut pac said he did believe in it
i agree the crips did this. what significance is the biggy hit to tupac's. theres a huge connection. do u think biggy had anything to do with it? what would be the reason biggy was killed 6 months later, retaliation from who?
There's really no link between Pac an Big's death. From what I research, there's really no signs that Big had anything to do with Pac's death. As for Big being killed 6 months later, I personally think Puff was the intended target (investigative author Cathy Scott hints the same). The retaliation was for the Sept. 95' murder of Jake 'The Snake' Robles (Suges bodyguard). Suge took heat for it from a lot of Bloods. He felt Puff had something to do with it.
I'd say the opposite: the people Orlando Anderson was with. In other words, I don't think Anderson was the triggerman, but he was probably in the car.
The thing about it is that the reason why the investigation into his death wasn't thoroughly done properly was that it happened in Las Vegas. They weren't use to this rap gang culture. LIke when Pac first got shot in NY in 94' it was new too them cause a major rapper was never really ever shot before. They even had to come up with a hip hop police task force to combat the problem. A bunch of middle age White guys are clueless about the culture. It's not a diss, it's the truth!
Yeah, I agree. If Brennan and Ladd would have been in charge of the investigation, the case would have been solved probably 13 years ago, around this time.
come on yall bottom line Suge Knight killed both of them period. everyone knows that the industry and all street people too . the night tupac got killed and that incident with orlando that whole night was a set up and he got killed later on ... so he wouldnt tell it . word is Suge Knight owed Tupac like 10 million dollars and we all know how Suge was about paying people. Thats what make that whole Industry so fake they all know and they aint doing shit or sayin shit about it .
You don't know what the hell you're talking about. Saying the Orlando fight was "staged" is retarded. It usually takes a year or a year and a half to recieve money from CDs, and All Eyez On Me was out for only 7 months.
i didnt say staged idiot i said 'set-up' and it was . and even after Tupac died Suge wasnt gonna give Afeni shit she had to fight for that money in court.
"Staged" and "set up" would mean the same thing in this context, you stupid fuck. Also, Afeni only sued Death Row AFTER Death Row sued Tupacs estate to get the money that Tupac owed Death Row. Afeni also didn't "win" the case, it was settled, and in July, 1997, Fischbein got an accounting and the case was settled.
A bullet hit the dash board of the BMW, it missed Suge by inches, theres no way Suge planned it. Just look at the bullet holes in the car, it was Crips getting revenge for Orlando, not a professonal hit. Also Suge opened the BMW door when it wouldn't open, why would he help Pac if he wanted him dead?
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1st.. its Tupac, or 2pac. 2nd. this event is huge because its possible that pac is still alive. aint nobody seen a pic of his dead body.. aint nobody seen his gravestone. why?
I think it's because he represented a voice for certain segments in society, and was killed in the middle of his prime. Thats obviously what gives rise to these conspiracy theories that people bark about. Also, the fact that police know who did it and didn't really engage it makes it more intriguing.
Beautiful Anton you've done it again. Great work and I do honestly believe that YOU are the one that's gonna solve this case with all your hard work. Great stuff buddy!
Three of the four people in the Cadillac are dead. Listen to Anton's interview with Anderson's lawyer - I think he states all of their names in that one. Who knows if the last survivor will ever speak out.
Let me ask you people something,Would you be surprised, That two gang rivals killed each other.Or tried to harm one another.That is like being surprised that, A Crip murdered a Blood. Now let me also ask you, Who was Tupac going to war with,In his music and especially in real life. Listen to his diss records or A.k.A songs.The main two people or a few that are really up and mentioned are probably his real killers, Or should I say murder planners.We all know who set up,staged and murdered Tupac.
1makaylacoffman 1 day ago
@AntonBatey Yeah I believe exactly what you said man, A whole lot of the people that believe that Suge Knight set up and staged Tupac's murder,Which is the the same scenario, These Are pretty much the people who are not serious and smart.These people can not be very smart,The reason why I partially say this is because,Who in the hell is going to be really surprised that someone,Would be set up or killed by their enemy or arch rival. That's like being surprised that a Blood Killed a Crip.
1makaylacoffman 1 day ago
@AntonBatey Typo
1makaylacoffman 1 day ago
@Anton bailey You are so right and smart about everything dealing with Tupac's killing,And his murder investigation.Everybody else seems so caught up on all these stupid ass theories. And very wrong reasons why the late great Tupac Shakur was murdered.Do not get me wrong I believe in a whole lot of conspiracy theories,As a matter of fact I love them,But not every one of them is right,And in this case most are wrong.Suge knight did not kill Tupac.The Illuminati probably didn't either. Stop lying.
1makaylacoffman 1 day ago
Finally we find out the truth.... I got the book today am on reading tooo cant wait for you to upload the whole interview..so like u sed u wud ask who ordered the hit on the southsidecrips...suge or the bloods..?
koolio11 2 days ago
Good stuff how long did u interview him for and i bet u asked everylittle thing about both murders......soo whats your conclusion on both murderss....???
koolio11 2 days ago
@koolio11
Two hours. And I believe him.
AntonBatey 2 days ago
Your interviewing him tonite that was quick nice.. upload it as soon as you can after you done it ...... Looking foward to it ask all the nitty gritty stuff to him.....lol
koolio11 4 days ago
@koolio11
Interview was amazing. I'll post it soon. It is the best interview on the subject. Ever.
AntonBatey 3 days ago
As like you am a sucka for detail i saw in a forum a while back finch and brim and.monk were used as badboys security wen on the west ....any thoughts maybe this is the reason they were shot possible?? Also i always wondered who actully called that shot on the.southside crips ....suge knight or the bloods themselfs so many questions need to be answered.... Any thoughts??
koolio11 5 days ago
@koolio11
I'll ask tonight when I interview Kading.
AntonBatey 4 days ago
Nice anton cant wait for the interview...me personally feel.there is a few plot holes surrounding.the murders... For example...anton lets say the ppl that were named in the white cad are correct(lane,keffe d,t-brown,dre smith) why werent they named in the alfdavit,why was brooks,brim,finch named as been in the car with lane if they were not even in the cad really confusing n why do u think brim,finch was shot was it.simply cause they were southsidecrips??????
koolio11 5 days ago
@koolio11
Well, you have to remember that Tim Brennan’s affidavit was completed on September 25th, a mere two weeks (less actually) after the murder. Even Tim Brennan, when I interviewed him, said the people named in the Cadillac were not totally correct, but the gist was right (that they were Southside Crips).
AntonBatey 4 days ago
Yer thats a good idea about making a review.ov sum sort about "murder rap" like i sed few things seem dead on others am not sure about like for example p diddy conspirying to kill suge and pac before that whole mgm.fight etc...as we all know diddy seemed scared as fuck ov suge so i doubt he wud put a hit out on.him ...
koolio11 2 weeks ago
@koolio11
I will be interviewing the author soon.
AntonBatey 6 days ago
@ Anton... Man I have followed Tupac basically all my life im 27 and I think you are right on with these interviews and videos..The fact is that Tupac was not 100% street and I totally agree that he rushed the wrong person...That person being Orlando and that it was simply a retaliation. My first tape was 2Pacalypse Now in 1991 I was 7 years old and a kid at my school let me borrow it after that I went out and bought it. I will always be a fan.Pac was not a dope dealer,or gang banger but a poet
darklight385 3 weeks ago
@darklight385
I couldn’t agree more. Thanks for the comment.
AntonBatey 3 weeks ago
a story teller,activist,and in my opinion if he had lived a politician. I followed him so much that I felt like I knew him,he had that effect...He simply got caught up in some shit that he did not have complete knowledge of,even certain members of the outlaws have stated that,I just wish people would quit butchering his music and let his legacy as all of those things that he was and still is live on...Much love from me.
darklight385 3 weeks ago
Ok just msg my account peace outt illl add 1 thing about it dnt want to spoil it but i think its ridiclous i think u may agree kading claims p diddy was already going to put a hit out on suge n pac and was askin keffe d and sum crip.called zip to do it.for 1 million cause diddy was fearing suge was gona strike first so that fight.at the mgm just kickstarted something that was already in plans...
koolio11 3 weeks ago
@koolio11
I think I know the general content of the book, although I am a stickler for details, so I’m sure I’ll enjoy the book. However, any claim that P. Diddy had Tupac killed, I’m sure I’ll be skeptical of.
AntonBatey 3 weeks ago
An.uncle out there in.cali and.was telling us that word.in compton is.that it was either orlando or keffe d who pulled the.trigger its debatable thats why i.feel the.pinning it on the deadguy comes into it....
koolio11 3 weeks ago
@koolio11
Just ordered it a few minutes ago. Thanks for the reminder. It should not take me too long to read once I get it. I’ll report back to you when I finish reading it.
AntonBatey 3 weeks ago
@AntonBatey U should do a rebuttal video immediately after u read the book. I think that there's a lot of things that u need 2 clarify or also u might learn somethin that would shed light on your perspective.
smokey5100 3 weeks ago
@smokey5100
I will certainly make a review after I read the book. I’ll even try to interview the author. However, I’m not sure if it will be a rebuttal, an endorsement or a combination of the two. I always have an open mind and am quick to admit if I’m wrong, if I am.
AntonBatey 3 weeks ago
@AntonBatey I can respect that. I'm looking 4ward 2 it. Thanks
smokey5100 3 weeks ago
@smokey5100 I got the book this morning, and am now reading it for the second time. I read it in about 2-3 hours, and could not put it down. I am going to be interviewing Greg Kading within the next few days. I think what he said is certainly plausible. The notion that we have that P. Diddy wouldn’t have someone killed might be blatant ignorance. Page 155-159 had me zoned out.
AntonBatey 6 days ago
Yes its a good book you should defo order it anton its a good read.. I.have researched pacs n bigs death alot.not as much as you..but me personally read all russel.poole radan suvvllan and all other rubbish books but.i.think greg kading has pretty much cracked the cases as for biggies killer if he is correct saying its a mobpiru called poochie the dude is stil alive n.breathing which is pretty intresting..another intresting thing is 1 ov.my friends has ....
koolio11 3 weeks ago
To make sense about who keffe d says was in the white cad in his confesstion in murder rap... He also is never asked weather t-brown or deandre smith are stil alive he also claims orlando was the actul shooter which i think cud be debatable seen as orlando.isnt alive and he cud just be shifting the blame on a deadman... Wats your thoughts ???....
koolio11 3 weeks ago
@koolio11
Regarding Amir Muhammad, I have never thought that Muhammad/Billups killed Biggie. When people ask me my opinion about Biggie’s murder, I’m reluctant to answer because of the colossal lack of any available evidence. The statement about “pinning it on a dead man” seems plausible, except that it was pinned on him by informants long before he died in May, 1998.
AntonBatey 3 weeks ago
Hey anton whats your opinion on greg kadings new book murder rap.... He claims baby lane,keffe d ,t-brown,deandre smith was in the white cadalic not the ppl u asked to tim brannan ....(baby lane,davion brooks,darnel brim,boby finch).... He also says amir muhammed was not biggies killer but a mob piru bloodz memeber named poochie wats your thoughts about all that because if i remember tim brannan did say it wasnt the ppl u named wen u named the ppl u thought ws in the white cad so it seems....
koolio11 3 weeks ago
@koolio11
I think that the men named in the Cadillac could be right. There is a margin of error within about two people or so. When people like me proclaim that “Orlando Anderson did it”, we are generally saying that “Crips did it”, even if Anderson wasn’t specifically the shooter. I haven’t read Kadings book yet – I have been busy with other things, but I’ll order the book later tonight.
AntonBatey 3 weeks ago
rip tupac the greatest rapper
jayd4ever 9 months ago
I really hope that someday they find a way to solve this somehow, couldn't the police give out rewards to convince the witnesses to come forward?
katanawarrior2008 1 year ago
I'm wating for your next interview. I know your leaning on the crips doing it, but I think the feds were involved. If it was just the crips they would have solved it within a week. Open and shut case. Deathrow was being heavily monitored. They watched him take damn near 5 minutes to exit the casino after the Orlando Fight and they were definetly watching him on the street. What do u think?
tommykreed 1 year ago
@antonbatey I would like to thank you Mr. Batey. I have listened to all of your detective interviews. even cathy scott interview. These interviews have helped a lot by keeping the story alive. These interviews are priceless. Dude asked why u so interested in Pac and that u sound like a fed agent. F that, u ask the questions that millions of people want to know. Pac was the biggest icon in our time.Keep digging into this legendary mystery. I'm waiting for your next interview.
tommykreed 1 year ago
Anton I appreciate ur interest and efforts. Tupac was/is my fav rapper and I want to know what happened. That officer was kind of a jerk too
lightmajor1 1 year ago
@antonbatey why are you so instrested in pac that's what I would like know and you seem like a federal agent who likes to argue what's really good with u
MrWARBUCKS24 2 years ago
No, I'm just a longtime Tupac fan.
AntonBatey 2 years ago
@AntonBatey Question for you Anton. The players that supposedly were in that car with Orlando were Darnell Brim, Bobby Finch and Keith "Keefee D" David. I've also heard the name Devion Brooks. Are any of these guys still alive and if so, who?
sigurjong 9 months ago
@AntonBatey : are you/have you done any research into Biggies murder?
Alparkatek631 8 months ago
@Alparkatek631
Not nearly as much as Tupac's. Not even enough to publically state my personal opinion on who killed him.
AntonBatey 8 months ago
@Alparkatek631 There's evidence that Suge had something to do with Biggies murder.
aldeb456 6 months ago
@aldeb456: Yeah, more and more. With all of the new info coming out, I think Ive put together a pretty good picture of how everything went down. If Ive learned anything from these two cases is that most of what you hear FIRST is the truth. Pac told the truth about the people that set him up and in a round about way, those ppl ended up killing him. I know Anton will be the first to say it was Pacs fault, and it is from the pov that it was his actions, However, the chain snatch incident did stem
Alparkatek631 6 months ago
@Alparkatek631 No, Trevon Lane's chain being snatched didn't have anything to do with Puff or Big. Anton really researched an documented the events as well as the surrounding stuff that went on that night as well as what happened before an after. Suge had nothing to do with Pac's death, but he did with Big's (as well as corrupt LA cops an Amir Muhammad) More an more evidence comes out, the truth will be revealed. The real ques. is, if Pac hadn't signed wit Suge, would he still be alive?
aldeb456 6 months ago
@aldeb456: Well from what I had read and heard, Puff had put the ransom up for death row chains, so they could be wearing them in a video.
Alparkatek631 6 months ago
@Alparkatek631 LA Crips had put a ransom up for Death Row chains. Crips were the ones that attacked Trevon Lane an 3 other Death Row Blood members at a Foot Locker in the Lakewood mall in April 96'. Orlando 'Baby Lane' Anderson was the one that took Lane's chain. That's why Lane whispered in Pac's ear on Sept. 7th, an Pac runs up to Anderson, asks, 'are u from the South (meaning southside crips) an sucker punches him. Puff is capable, but he was scared of Suge.
aldeb456 6 months ago
from the puffy/biggie situation
Alparkatek631 6 months ago
@Alparkatek631 yes
aldeb456 6 months ago
@antonbatey you know as well as I know anything can happen at anytime to a person die no matter what they do to prevent it I don't know if you ever faced death before but trust me a person feels it before it happens
MrWARBUCKS24 2 years ago
@antonbatey a person fate can be predetermined just listen to dr king the night before he died and his mood was already ruined long before they got pulled but what I would like to is when did you get into pac and are you into pac the person or his music or just his murder
MrWARBUCKS24 2 years ago
How does that prove that everyone's fate is predetermined. That would mean that we don't have control over our lives. And King was a marked man, so him saying he would die does not mean people's deaths are predetermined. That's such a ridiculous argument.
AntonBatey 2 years ago
@AntonBatey What he meant to say, "is that people on the level of a dr.king are ultimatley not responsible for their lives once they hit "the level". Tupac through fame had reached "the level". You go above the level and you have control of minds across all genders, race, and geographic locations. He could have swayed minds both politically,socially, and religiously. But they took him out before his money or influence could create change. Cointel-pro is the keyword.
omarigurulink 3 weeks ago
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Tupac was the type of person that COINTEPPRO would want to keep alive because he was a divisive figure within his own community the last few years of his life. Talking what he “would” have done or “could” have done is pure speculation. For all we know, Tupac would have went to prison months into 1997 or 1998 because a) he was probably going to lose the appeal and b) the fight with Anderson would have landed him in prison.
AntonBatey 3 weeks ago
@antonbatey why are so obsessed with pacs murder I don't think anybody could have saved pac that night look at him in that last pic he was gone you see it in his face just look at what went on that night pac is just another young black man cut down in the prime of his life
MrWARBUCKS24 2 years ago
I don't think peoples fate is predetermined. The reason Tupac had that look on his face was because they were being pulled over by the police, and Tupac was probably thinking, "god damn it.............these fuckin cops.........." and probably ruined his mood for the moment.
AntonBatey 2 years ago
@AntonBatey: Man u catch a lot of heat on here? But I think Pac knew he was marked as well, which is why he put out against all odds. I agree with you about the picture tho. I dont think there is any definitive proof on predestination but like u said about Dr. King, when youre living a certain lifestyle, you kinda know where things will head.
Alparkatek631 6 months ago
Y'ALL SHUT D HELL UP!....i'm d key 2 this case, anton batey! i challenge u 4 a debate!
xtianthadon 2 years ago
Leave me your contact information in a PM.
AntonBatey 2 years ago
this fucking guy refuses to talk about alll the people who knew pac and knew he was leaving death row, he refuses to talk about how he and suge had huge fall outs and if orlando was the only one involved why they didnt close the case
brwnsxyslm 2 years ago
Tupac wasn't leaving Death Row. Makaveli Records was a subsidiary of Death Row, as confirmed by the Outlawz, who were actually going to sign with the label. Tupac also said the same thing on Just Like Daddy when he said, "Death Row Makaveli". Also, Tupac and Suge didnt have a "falling out". A few days before Tupac got shot, Tupac was yelling at Suge about SNOOP'S disloyalty to Death Row. So that, if anything, suggests Tupacs loyalty to Death Row.
AntonBatey 2 years ago
And why Anderson wasn't charged?
You need to actually LISTEN to the interviews before you comment. The answers are there.
And I'll interview/debate anyone, regardless of their viewpoint. It just so happens that the ONLY people who think Knight was behind Tupac's death are people who arent serious.
AntonBatey 2 years ago
puffy is a bitch that nigga wuld never have the nuts to stage shit that fat fuck biggie as well they were both mommas boy little bitches
batalarabe 2 years ago
How about the huge feud between him and biggie? was it all just blown out of proportion? was his death connected to pac's? it's strange how he died what 5 6 months later?
colecoTom 2 years ago
stop the disinfo, its too obvious!
jppureplaya1 2 years ago
Whats "obvious"? And if it's so "obvious", why aren't you able to articulate it and argue it? I have been slapping you around for quite a while now.
AntonBatey 2 years ago
AntonBatey the Illuminati did exist at one point in history look it up. Wether they're still around is another story. They sure as hell didn't kill Tupac though, that was most likely just a retaliation from Orlando Anderson.
SquadronKid 2 years ago
Yeah, I agree that the organization existed hundreds of years ago. And actually, the organization is one in which I agree with most of time prime principles. For instance, they were mostly atheists, agnostics or deists who wanted to eradicate the influence the Church had in the State. They are what you would call "freethinkers". Also, they were not that "secret" either, but because most top members were highly educated, it devolved an "elitist" reputation.
AntonBatey 2 years ago
you got the wrong sources watching disinfo movies like angels and demons....Research FBI War on Tupac and Black Leader by John Potash. he has alot of hidden information about 2pac's life and death.
EMDANAL 2 years ago
Yeah, I read that, and I think Potash is off his rocker. His "sources" are unamed people. I can also write a book and claim anything and say I'm getting the information from unnamed sources.
AntonBatey 2 years ago
illuminati government ordered the hit
who did it, idont know.
Dzoni73 2 years ago
There is no such organization. Tupac didn't believe in it either.
Idiot.
AntonBatey 2 years ago
no disrespect to u mr baley i love ur work and think your awesome but tupac even said i put a k in front of illuminati cuz im killin this illimunati shit thats exactly wut pac said he did believe in it
batalarabe 2 years ago
i gotta question for u mr batey who do u think killed pac i jus want ur honest opinion thx
batalarabe 2 years ago
oh lord she on jew tube yellin now lol
Zeroin22 2 years ago 20
i agree the crips did this. what significance is the biggy hit to tupac's. theres a huge connection. do u think biggy had anything to do with it? what would be the reason biggy was killed 6 months later, retaliation from who?
whitleybayer 2 years ago 3
There's really no link between Pac an Big's death. From what I research, there's really no signs that Big had anything to do with Pac's death. As for Big being killed 6 months later, I personally think Puff was the intended target (investigative author Cathy Scott hints the same). The retaliation was for the Sept. 95' murder of Jake 'The Snake' Robles (Suges bodyguard). Suge took heat for it from a lot of Bloods. He felt Puff had something to do with it.
aldeb456 2 years ago
in your opinion anton, do u think it was orlando anderson and the people he was with? great interview
ParamnesiaFilms 2 years ago
I'd say the opposite: the people Orlando Anderson was with. In other words, I don't think Anderson was the triggerman, but he was probably in the car.
AntonBatey 2 years ago
great stuff,
flyersluver4eva 2 years ago
The thing about it is that the reason why the investigation into his death wasn't thoroughly done properly was that it happened in Las Vegas. They weren't use to this rap gang culture. LIke when Pac first got shot in NY in 94' it was new too them cause a major rapper was never really ever shot before. They even had to come up with a hip hop police task force to combat the problem. A bunch of middle age White guys are clueless about the culture. It's not a diss, it's the truth!
aldeb456 2 years ago
Yeah, I agree. If Brennan and Ladd would have been in charge of the investigation, the case would have been solved probably 13 years ago, around this time.
AntonBatey 2 years ago
come on yall bottom line Suge Knight killed both of them period. everyone knows that the industry and all street people too . the night tupac got killed and that incident with orlando that whole night was a set up and he got killed later on ... so he wouldnt tell it . word is Suge Knight owed Tupac like 10 million dollars and we all know how Suge was about paying people. Thats what make that whole Industry so fake they all know and they aint doing shit or sayin shit about it .
dollietube 2 years ago
You don't know what the hell you're talking about. Saying the Orlando fight was "staged" is retarded. It usually takes a year or a year and a half to recieve money from CDs, and All Eyez On Me was out for only 7 months.
AntonBatey 2 years ago
i didnt say staged idiot i said 'set-up' and it was . and even after Tupac died Suge wasnt gonna give Afeni shit she had to fight for that money in court.
dollietube 2 years ago
"Staged" and "set up" would mean the same thing in this context, you stupid fuck. Also, Afeni only sued Death Row AFTER Death Row sued Tupacs estate to get the money that Tupac owed Death Row. Afeni also didn't "win" the case, it was settled, and in July, 1997, Fischbein got an accounting and the case was settled.
AntonBatey 2 years ago
A bullet hit the dash board of the BMW, it missed Suge by inches, theres no way Suge planned it. Just look at the bullet holes in the car, it was Crips getting revenge for Orlando, not a professonal hit. Also Suge opened the BMW door when it wouldn't open, why would he help Pac if he wanted him dead?
djhaynes99 2 years ago 4
o yea suge said shoot me in the head to make it look real
u fuckin moron
batalarabe 2 years ago
U be on point Anton this is great journalism i dont know how u get these people but great work.
etheshow 2 years ago 4
I'm an outsider to all this 2pak stuff. What significance, beyond any other celebraty homicide, is there in this event?
lengthyounarther 2 years ago
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1st.. its Tupac, or 2pac. 2nd. this event is huge because its possible that pac is still alive. aint nobody seen a pic of his dead body.. aint nobody seen his gravestone. why?
chrislsarac 2 years ago
chris, shut up. People like you make Tupac fans look stupid.
AntonBatey 2 years ago
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@lengthyounarther
I would like to know this also.
landofthefreemyass 2 years ago
I think it's because he represented a voice for certain segments in society, and was killed in the middle of his prime. Thats obviously what gives rise to these conspiracy theories that people bark about. Also, the fact that police know who did it and didn't really engage it makes it more intriguing.
AntonBatey 2 years ago
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amazing, thank you
MakNak777 2 years ago
Beautiful Anton you've done it again. Great work and I do honestly believe that YOU are the one that's gonna solve this case with all your hard work. Great stuff buddy!
INTEG85 2 years ago 2
That case will never be solved. The murderer was killed in 1998.
sigurjong 2 years ago 5
Orland Anderson was killed, but there were other people in the white cadillac.. who knows if they are still alive or not..
MakNak777 2 years ago 4
Three of the four people in the Cadillac are dead. Listen to Anton's interview with Anderson's lawyer - I think he states all of their names in that one. Who knows if the last survivor will ever speak out.
stevebrizzle 2 years ago
guud shit 1st
kyoki86 2 years ago 3
Thanks for this Anton. You da man.
sigurjong 2 years ago 3
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IAmTrill100 2 years ago 3