I don´t know if Ian Curt treated his wife bad,I don´t care about particular life of musicians.I just pay attetion to their music and Joy Division"s music is wonderful.
Ian Curtis was a fuckhole to his wife, he was a egocentric person, who commited suicide on the edge of the bands breakthrough and he cheated on his wife, but I do still adore him in some way! Don't know why?
@MolokoPlus1980 Just because the man had epilepsy doesn't mean that he had no accountability of the way he was treating his wife. Please. Felt guilty? Where? When? That must have been in the sequel: Control 2.
@MolokoPlus1980 weren't they just kids (early 20s) when they got married? similar shit happened to lennon and his 1st wife when they got married... i heard that he basically ignored his first kid until near his death.... LESSON: DONT GET MARRIED AND HAVE KIDS TOO EARLY!!!
Rudolf Walter Richard Hess (Heß in German) (26 April 1894 17 August 1987) was a prominent figure in Nazi Germany, acting as Adolf Hitler's Deputy in the Nazi Party. On the eve of war with the Soviet Union, he flew solo to Scotland in an attempt to negotiate peace with the United Kingdom, but instead was arrested. He was tried at Nuremberg and sentenced to life in prison at Spandau Prison, where he died in 1987.
ive heard that a lot, everyone says he had issues but generally very nice and normal, took the piss out of his mates and was up for a laugh like any other young person. How did u end up meeting him?
@dprague ever heard of manic depressive disorder or bipolar disorder? One day full of positive energy, the next day torned as hell. I guess you met him at his good day. Still, I envy you for meeting him buddy;)
The vice furher of Nazi Germany, who in 1940 hijacked a plane and flew to England on a self imposed desire to arbitrate a peace treaty. The British threw him in jail. By the late 1970s he was in jail, suffering from the effects of a bad heart attack (prison serial number 350125-31g).
No it was indeed Bernard Sumner who yelled "You all forgot Rudolf Hess!" to the crowd. Search for "Joy Division - At A Later Date (rare)" in YouTube and you'll hear their performance at the Electric Circus and you can clearly hear Barney before the song starts.
it might have been because whilst everybody knew about himmler, geourballs (sp?) and hitler himself, nobody knew about Rudolph hess. Despite his ranking in the nzi army.
Joy Division were like a Hardcore Punk band when they first started, Ian's voice was alot more energetic and shouty, a bit like Jello Biafra's voice when he was with the Dead Kennedy's
Umm I thought Barney said you all forget Rudolph Hess and then they did At a later date. If you ever heard live from the electric Circus. Plus Ian sounded alot more Angry in 1977
It's another guy who was signed to Factory called John Cooper Clarke, the poem's called "Evidently Chickentown" - I think you'll be able to download it from any half decent download site if you want
I like how they played the songs sped up, just like the real Joy Division. Hooky always said he hated the fact that the producers made them slow it down for the studio.
Yeh, I just read that Deborah Curtis actually co-produced the film. It was just the impression I got from a bulletin posted on MySpace by whoever runs the Joy Division page. Can't really remember exactly what it said though.
Actually, she did indeed co-produce the film, and you can see it in the way it quite portrays her as a poor victim of Ian's selfishness. On the other hand, it also shows that he can't help being so self-centered. I mean, it does treat Ian's figure with respect after all. Must have been a hard disenchantment for both Deborah and Ian. I liked "Control" more than i thought i would, in any case more than "24 Hour Party People" with those boring pilldroppers, the Happy Mondays.
Does anyone know another movie like this one????
666mecesina666 4 months ago
WARSAW!
obunkystaind 6 months ago
I don´t know if Ian Curt treated his wife bad,I don´t care about particular life of musicians.I just pay attetion to their music and Joy Division"s music is wonderful.
marcio9094 6 months ago
A Great Communist band, rebelling against british imperialism
COMMUNISTPHILOSOPHY 6 months ago
If you want to read a book about Ian/JD I advise 'Torn Apart'. It's a lot less bitter and biased than Deborah Curtis' biography.
KnfRaw 11 months ago
lucky but let me point out something this song is not rudolf hess I know the original song so control messed it up oooops
thefingerboarder12 1 year ago
What a drummer the guy who played Steve Morris.
Andres21479 1 year ago
Ian Curtis was a fuckhole to his wife, he was a egocentric person, who commited suicide on the edge of the bands breakthrough and he cheated on his wife, but I do still adore him in some way! Don't know why?
socoolio 1 year ago
@MolokoPlus1980 Just because the man had epilepsy doesn't mean that he had no accountability of the way he was treating his wife. Please. Felt guilty? Where? When? That must have been in the sequel: Control 2.
jrmetmoi 1 year ago
wondering where this clip comes from... is it really them?
summerbeeme 1 year ago
@summerbeeme Form the film Control
RedHotandFleaFan 1 year ago
This is a really cool version of a great song!
ajj4account 1 year ago 3
this got me hooked on joy division.
namedoesmatter 1 year ago
@MolokoPlus1980 weren't they just kids (early 20s) when they got married? similar shit happened to lennon and his 1st wife when they got married... i heard that he basically ignored his first kid until near his death.... LESSON: DONT GET MARRIED AND HAVE KIDS TOO EARLY!!!
Bittersweet123 1 year ago
what did the guitarist say before they played the song
ramonesdude93 2 years ago 2
@ramonesdude93
He said "You all forgotten Rudolph Hess?"
:)
Rouge454 2 years ago
In control Ian is ignoring and trying to shut his wife out of his life, and he really did not irl.
FuckThisCentury 2 years ago 4
How would you know?
eltonjohnlennon97 2 years ago 2
@eltonjohnlennon97 Cuz people that knew him and his wife said so in interviews
FuckThisCentury 2 years ago
those re some awsome pants sam riley is wearin
AOAWHATSUP 2 years ago 8
Now he sound's much more like Ian Curtis on this track, nice hair too!
jameyinegypt 2 years ago 7
he is soo hot ;; the music is fukin amazing x3 :D
catarina81595 2 years ago 2
nevermind
nymets710 2 years ago
whyd he mention that dude hess?
nymets710 2 years ago
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joy division was a Nazi band
khattamshud 2 years ago
they werent nazis they just wanted to shock people because nazi was the worst thing you could be at that time
Tystanaden 2 years ago 4
Ian was also really interested in ww2
TheSoundOfMusic01 2 years ago
I thought they were doing it to be darkly ironic.
Burnzy8418 2 years ago 2
Rudolf Walter Richard Hess (Heß in German) (26 April 1894 17 August 1987) was a prominent figure in Nazi Germany, acting as Adolf Hitler's Deputy in the Nazi Party. On the eve of war with the Soviet Union, he flew solo to Scotland in an attempt to negotiate peace with the United Kingdom, but instead was arrested. He was tried at Nuremberg and sentenced to life in prison at Spandau Prison, where he died in 1987.
kings1882 3 years ago
thanks wikopedia :)
ps3sucksassballs 2 years ago 4
this film was great
SKIZINGDRUG 3 years ago 9
I met Ian Curtis in London in 1979. He was a very happy person. Funny, that he is depicted as so torn. I never saw a performance.
dprague 3 years ago 40
ive heard that a lot, everyone says he had issues but generally very nice and normal, took the piss out of his mates and was up for a laugh like any other young person. How did u end up meeting him?
anna315 3 years ago
@dprague wow! How did you meet him?
rldaniels95 1 year ago
@dprague wow you have to be the luckiest person on earth :O :D , how cool ! u met Ian lmao sorry
KxK96 1 year ago
@dprague how did you meet him, did you talk to him and so?
socoolio 1 year ago
@dprague you lucky bastard
deshirolla1 1 year ago
@dprague woow seeing happy Ian Cuurts is as rare as seeing kakapo
gogolplex74 1 year ago
@dprague ever heard of manic depressive disorder or bipolar disorder? One day full of positive energy, the next day torned as hell. I guess you met him at his good day. Still, I envy you for meeting him buddy;)
bolderiks 6 months ago
Who's Rudolph Hess?
sparkyinbath 3 years ago 2
The vice furher of Nazi Germany, who in 1940 hijacked a plane and flew to England on a self imposed desire to arbitrate a peace treaty. The British threw him in jail. By the late 1970s he was in jail, suffering from the effects of a bad heart attack (prison serial number 350125-31g).
KrzyCanuck 3 years ago 4
ok. but why does old mate say, 'have you all forgotten Rudolph Hess', before the band starts to play.
sparkyinbath 3 years ago
Actually, Ian Curtis said that.
I believe he did that to get attention, since being as Nazi-like as possible was in vogue back then.
KrzyCanuck 3 years ago
No it was indeed Bernard Sumner who yelled "You all forgot Rudolf Hess!" to the crowd. Search for "Joy Division - At A Later Date (rare)" in YouTube and you'll hear their performance at the Electric Circus and you can clearly hear Barney before the song starts.
canuck21 3 years ago 4
it might have been because whilst everybody knew about himmler, geourballs (sp?) and hitler himself, nobody knew about Rudolph hess. Despite his ranking in the nzi army.
righthandgenius 3 years ago 2
watch my vid 'at a later date' and you hear the real joy division shouting you all forgot about rudolph hess at the beginning
mylomaster 3 years ago
Joy Division were like a Hardcore Punk band when they first started, Ian's voice was alot more energetic and shouty, a bit like Jello Biafra's voice when he was with the Dead Kennedy's
SWF90 3 years ago 2
Umm I thought Barney said you all forget Rudolph Hess and then they did At a later date. If you ever heard live from the electric Circus. Plus Ian sounded alot more Angry in 1977
Wehategod 3 years ago
Im so glad they opened the film with my favorite JD song.
lovely
karaokepartybus 3 years ago
Thank you so much for put up the video and for your shortcut on download performances from Control,I searched for it so many times...
Ian Curtis was legend,but life was too hard for him...R.I.P Ian!
BRotherCZek 3 years ago
PERFECT!!absolutely amazing!!!respect for SAM RILEY!!!!!!
leonardos99 3 years ago 7
Wow...
I never heard this before (yes I'm a Joy Div./ New Order Fan).
Great Live Version!!!
I think a lot of their stuff sounds better live. Studio versions can be dull.
This is great. Gonna have to learn how to play it.
adamjg4 3 years ago 4
i know!! this band did a great job playing Joy Divisions cover
Chaseyboeyy 3 years ago 5
Obviously not a real fan if you haven't heard this song.
drunkenstooge 3 years ago
I've heard the studio version not the live version, asshole.
adamjg4 3 years ago 5
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hahaha your not at real fan
yeahhammer 3 years ago
you twat. get a life nerd. i'm sick of reading comments from self righteous little gimps like you.
sparkyinbath 3 years ago 4
I saw John Cooper Clarke at a poetry convention a couple years ago. He was very good
PubliusDiamond 3 years ago
Genialna piosenka :)
Arti128 3 years ago 2
maybe its just me but joy division songs sound better live
MrZZiZZler 3 years ago
I think is because of the feeling...the speed...remember the studio made them record the songs slower...
tinosteiner 3 years ago
Love Joy Division, this film is outstanding no doubt about it, Sam Riley's portrayal of Ian Curtis is played to perfection.
Squab1972 3 years ago
Btw if you watch the whole thing on the dvd
theres are wierd guy reciting a poem
i think its called "chicken town" or something?
does anyone now any more info about it??
twotrecool 4 years ago 2
It's another guy who was signed to Factory called John Cooper Clarke, the poem's called "Evidently Chickentown" - I think you'll be able to download it from any half decent download site if you want
JRoN1Mo 4 years ago
What, John Cooper Clarke was signed to factory ?? I thought he was just opening some shows for JD and other bands.
Someday747 3 years ago
i know only the studio version of this song but THIS is fuckin' better !
martchin 4 years ago 4
I thought Sam Riley got fucked at the Baftas. I mean, losing to Shia Lebouef? Bummer.
Brilliant film, tho.
elkhadi 4 years ago 4
my favorite joy division song
organically grown music!
pure, raw, powerfull
amazing
bertox123 4 years ago
I like how they played the songs sped up, just like the real Joy Division. Hooky always said he hated the fact that the producers made them slow it down for the studio.
Shivambush 4 years ago 8
couldn't agree more
dawnwoodradioone 4 years ago 3
This comment has received too many negative votes show
I don't think I like the look of this film. Got a thumbs down from New Order and Ian's wife, Deborah. So, I think I'll value their opinion...
samoshitt 4 years ago
actually new order sed it wasnt as bad as they thought an even supported it at a premiere
heartandsoul1988 4 years ago 4
Yeh, I just read that Deborah Curtis actually co-produced the film. It was just the impression I got from a bulletin posted on MySpace by whoever runs the Joy Division page. Can't really remember exactly what it said though.
samoshitt 4 years ago
Actually, she did indeed co-produce the film, and you can see it in the way it quite portrays her as a poor victim of Ian's selfishness. On the other hand, it also shows that he can't help being so self-centered. I mean, it does treat Ian's figure with respect after all. Must have been a hard disenchantment for both Deborah and Ian. I liked "Control" more than i thought i would, in any case more than "24 Hour Party People" with those boring pilldroppers, the Happy Mondays.
garagerockermadrid 4 years ago 3
you don't know shit, sam.
bigbowlowrong 4 years ago
Yeh, whatever...
I retract my statement.
samoshitt 4 years ago
Best film for a good while. Saw it 3 times at cinema.
PUMF 4 years ago 3
sam in leather pants=hot
>3 this song
christacat 4 years ago 2
One of my fave bands! rip Ian x
cobainfreak 4 years ago 4
love joy division
notjustaprettyface4 4 years ago 5