THe early church was the church of Corinth, NOT THE SAME HOLY CATHOLIC CHURCH WE SEE TODAY. too many contradictions with the Bible and even church history, for someone who honestly reads it...
please tell me where Justin Martyr, Polycarp, john the apostle, and Irenaeus believe in purgatory, prayed the rosary, bowed to statues, and prayed to Marry. Also, show me where they believed in theyre good works on partial basis of justification. Also, Contradicting the everlasting words of Jesus which cleary state not one jot or title shall pass until all is fulfilled. He that is of God heareth God's Word. Anyone want to talk early church? We can do that as well...
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@TheGesb79 i think it's the websites that i am trying to write down. I meant to say St Ignatius of Antioch, St Irenaeus of Lyon can be read too. try Catholic Answers at catholic . com / library / peter _ and _ the _ papacy . asp agape bible study . com had it there too but i am not sure how I googled it earlier.
@TheGesb79 Having this information and reading Matthew 16:13-20 gives these events a whole new meaning.
You can google Caesarea Philippi and see the area and the information for yourself. I would encourage you to read early Church Fathers, not in the 3rd century and beyond, but 1st and 2nd century. You can move beyond that if you wish. Especially those who sat at the feet of the Apostles. Justin Martyr (103-165), Polycarp, (69-155) disciple of John the Apostle. Irenaeus of Antioch(35-110)
@TheGesb79 I also wanted to note that it may be necessary to take in to account where Jesus and the disciples were at when the name was given. In the region of Caesarea Philippi was the place of pagan worship. There is this huge rock with a cave that in ancient times the bottom could not be felt(lowered rope and could not find bottom) so they thought this was the gate of Hades. Many niches were carved out for the idols to be placed and worshipped. One of the idols was Pan the god of sheep.
@TheGesb79 Now, keep in mind this was information that I heard Scott Hahn say on another teaching. I have googled the name and it's use in antiquity and the websites say not used before Peter. MOST were Catholic websites and some I did not see as Catholic but do not have the time to search to see what denomination they are. I looked up Hebrew baby names and this name does not appear in any of the websites I searched(Cephas and Kephas) If you come up with proof of the contrary, let me know.
God is offended by receiving Him on "dirty" hands(ONLY priest can touch Him) in the Holy Eucharist!
Only accepted by Heaven form of receiving living Heart of Jesus Christ in the Eucharist of the Catholic Church is into our mouth and on our both knees!
OHHHH bundle of ignorant evangelicals and protestants...please...You read the Bible and yur interpretation is just about yourself, you want the Church be what you want, is dream if prosperity that make you all slaves again. You shou shut your mounth because IF you can today even read the Bible say thanks to the Catholic Church that let you to do that. At least respect and another thing, STUDY, STUDY!!!
I am the living bread which has come down from heaven. Anyone who eats this bread will live for ever; and the bread that I shall give is my flesh, for the life of the world.' If you do not eat the flesh of the Son of man and drink his blood, you have no life in you. Anyone who does eat my flesh and drink my blood has eternal life, and I shall raise that person up on the last day. For my flesh is real food and my blood is real drink.
@johnthreesixteen316 you dont believe that He is God and He can do whatever He wants, even to give us His flesh and blood,
many jews abandoned Him because of the words, they took them literally, Jesus could have said... hey dont go, I didnt mean it, I say it figuratively... what kind a master one who doesnt explain well... even to His apostles ..He said... Do you also wish to go away?
all the protestants went away and didnt believe His words
Exodus 20:4...."Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth."
The eucharist is nothing more than a graven image of Christ.....Leviticus 26:1 “Ye shall make you no idols nor graven image, neither rear you up a standing image, neither shall ye set up any image of stone in your land, to bow down unto it: for I am the LORD your God.”
The true church of Jesus Christ is a relationship, not a membership. It doesn't have a roof or an address. We are the Body of Christ, those of us who have accepted His work on the cross for our sins 2000 years ago, once and for all. Our names have been written in the Book of Life from the beginning. 1 cross + 3 nails = 4 given.
@johnthreesixteen316 You are right. Indeed, Catholics agree with you; the Church is all the people in the world who Christ calls his own, Protestant, Roman Catholic, and Orthodox. However, Christ called for unity in that Church. Since the Reformation, Protestantism has been fracturing like a broken mirror, until the point we are today in which there are thousands of denominations. Christ founded the Church with leaders, the apostles. Without headship (leadership) the Church simply drifts.
The wafer used in the mass. Catholics believe that the wafer turns into the actual body of Jesus Christ. This teaching, called transubstantiation, is one of their fundamentally most critical beliefs—one they believe is crucial to salvation. In reality, the wafer is nothing more than a sun symbol common in pagan religions.
Oh it makes sense your a muslim .Tell me how can you follow a false prophet ?Did you know that the Church started 625 years before Mohammad even came .He is false .Your religion is false give me a couple of days to explain to you and you will convert out of it .Your statements on the church and pediphiles are wrong
Scott Hahn has a brilliant mind, but he is preaching a gospel other than the one found in the New Testament. Paul calls those who teach such "non-gospels" condemned. Without a doubt, Scott is leading thousands astray.
Scott was once a heretical protestant who led Christians astray however found the church and converted to Gods church .You may have it confused he uses to lead astray now he leads to God .Read his book"Rome Sweet Home".And then you may come home.
@AtomicMonster454 No problem. I cannot say it enough. I was the most anti Catholic dude on earth, and I believe I knew John Calvin better than any other reformed person. I studied not only his institutes, but also studied his personal letters, and his common legal practice. I was a hardcore Calvinist. But, now that I am Catholic, reformed people like to believe I never really understood Calvin, or believed it. What morons!
@AtomicMonster454 It depends. One thing that I have noted, is that in Protestant theology, they have Calvin. But in the Catholic Church, there are hundreds of John Calvin's. I would say, that my favorite modern theologian, is probably Ratzinger (pope). If only people realized, that Ratzinger is one of the greatest theologians to ever live, and he is alive today. As for past theologians, I would have to say that Clement is my favorite.
@Castleman711 --"hundreds of Calvins" -you mean folks like Schleebx and Kung, goofs like that? And yes the Holy Father is an awesome theologian and teacher; Adrian Von Speyer is good as well.
Can you illustrate, what it is "the true Gospel" message is? I hear this Galatians 1 rebuke by protestants all of the time, but protestants always presuppose that they have the gospel according to Paul and Christ, and cannot figure out, that they are just reading the scriptures wrong.
If you find this interesting, I think you may find the book on Genesis "The Lost World of Genesis One" by the Protestant scholar John Walton. It makes the point Hahn is making here in a very detailed manner.
In Protestant theology salvation is made up of a three step progress: justification, sanctification, and glorification. This verse does read justification, this verse reads salvation. What you are trying to say this verse opposes in Catholicism would also oppose Protestantism.
Salvation is a continual process .Read your bible one can not have true faith without producing works .We are not saved by Grace alone for it is GOds grace that saves us .
FOR THOSE OF YOU TRYING TO CONVINCE the non Catholics, a word of wisdom here. (former PROTESTANT)
Leave them alone in their confusion, no matter how much you reason with them they will always find an excuse...Their hearts have been POISONED against the Church. Only a HUMBLE heart accepts when they are wrong.
John Martignoni says it very well, TRUTH is a person=JESUS and they really don't want to know the truth, it's a matter of pride they refuse to acknowledge they have been wrong. GET IT?
If the bible alone is enough, why do all 1,000 plus evangelical groups all have their own interpretation. It's obvious the Holy Spirit isn't to blame. You don't believe the bible, you believe your founder's interpretation, period. Of course he will tell you it's the Holy Spirits interpretation.
@miotico Hello friend. The true church of Jesus Christ is a relationship, not a membership. It isn’t any particular protestant denomination or Roman catholic. It doesn't have a roof or an address. We are the Body of Christ, past, present and future from all around the world who have accepted Christ’s work on the cross for our sins 2000 years ago, once and for all. Our names have been written in the Book of Life from the beginning. 1 cross + 3 nails = 4 given.
@johnthreesixteen316 hello dear john, of course we are the body of Christ but if you have read the old testament, God wanted Solomon built a temple where everybody can gather together for offering sacrifices and in the new testament Jesus gave us his body and blood ... and said to Peter: Matthew 16, 18
And I tell you that you are Peter and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it.
@johnthreesixteen316 the Bible does not say... the church is built upon faith in me.... does it?
For THOU (referring to Peter) art PETROS
it does not say ...for ME ...am Christ and upon faith on ME
that is your personal interpretation and of the rest of the protestants, otherwise you would have to addmit that is built on Peter.... just like the Bible says...
@gabbydeJesus Well, Peter could not have been the first pope, considering that he was married, he betrayed Jesus and also Paul was teaching him how to behave with jews and pagans.
@gabbydeJesus He denied Jesus, when Jesus went on the cross to die for hes sins. Can the pope do that? I dont think any believer can, and get to heaven. But mostly it just shows that Peter was not infallible, as a pope ought to be.
There was another Simon among the apostles, Simon the Canaanite. Mat. 10:4
When they had eaten, Jesus said to Simon Peter, 'Simon son of John, do you love me more than these others do?' He answered, 'Yes, Lord, you know I love you.' Jesus said to him, 'Feed my lambs.' ...
A second time 'Look after my sheep.'
Then he said to him a third time,' Jesus said to him, 'Feed my sheep
You should believe the Jesus and the authority he gave to Peter...
Jesus did not change Peter's name; it was his 'nick name' all his life because he was stubborn. Peter means small hard pebble, which he was as a child when he acquired the name.
The "Rock," on the other hand, upon which the church is founded is Jesus Christ himself.
In this case, there was no name change. The Lord was commenting on the name that Peter had been known by all his life (hard pebble), and contrasting it with himself, the Rock, on whom all things are founded.
BTW, it was Sarai to Sarah, not Sarah to Sarai ;o)
Protestants know the Bible more fully, and deeply than Catholics ever can, because so much of the Bible is condemnation of disobedient Catholic doctrine, causing them to go glassey eyed and skip over those passages.
So I now say to you: YOU are Peter (HARD PEBBLE) (where on the biblie????)and on this rock (ON ME; JESUS CHRIST) I will build my community. And the gates of the underworld can never overpower it. I will give you the keys of the kingdom of Heaven: ( I WILL GIVE THEM TO MYSELF) whatever YOU bind on earth will be bound in heaven; whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven.'
@gabbydeJesus In Hebrew they have feminine and masculine words. But sometimes they’re weird, like a group of fathers in Hebrew is a feminine word. In Greek, the word for rock is grammatically feminine. To make it a man’s name you have to add –s (petra to petras; Jesus names him rocky, not rockalina). Jesus was speaking Aramaic, the word for rock has no gender in aramaic (Kepha – we see this word later as Peter’s name, Cephas). “I will give you the keys to the Kingdom of heaven” - Isaiah 22:22
@casurveyor6357 Peter's name (the Hebrew "kephas") means rock. That wasn't too common a name until the first century. It was given to Peter by Jesus. Before this instance Peter is known as Simon-Peter. A name change indicates a change in role. And yes, the Church does explain this to you, when you ask. How can protestants know the bible more fully? They threw out the deuterocanonical books. The canon was solemnly defined in 1441 in Florence and hadn't changed since Rome382,before the Reformation
"The Greek says, 'for thou art petros.' The church is not built upon Peter. It is built upon faith in Christ. "
Thats garbage johnthreesixteen316. Mainline protestants gave up that garbage argument years ago. Time to update your anti catholic cookbook with some new garbage.
@miotico Like Fr. Corapi says: "division is from the Devil"! Protestantism is nothing but division masked as a more 'acceptable', 'tolerant', 'welcoming' etc....church.
You guys have to understand that protestants and sects have been fed that the bible alone is required to know Jesus for centuries now. However, if these people would be around back 350 years after Jesus, they would have rejected him because there was no written bible for the public. What would they say then? Perhaps, "I only believe what I see."
Scott Hahn is going to be at Mount Saint Mary's in Emmitsburg, MD, this Friday and Saturday, 20 and 21 March 2009. He's going to be talking about High Theology.
creathavok, isee you have so much dirt in your mouth. Scott Hahn found the Catholic Churchthrough spiritual guidance and deep scripture understanding.
Here's how easy it is. If the reformation was right. Does that mean that every christian prior to 1517 did the wrong thing. And also remember, when the bible was written, ... there was no reformation,.. Get The picture ?
the closer you get to how early christians who were closer to Jesus and the apostles, the more u understand his decision
Salvation by Faith is not wrong, Salvation by Faith alone is Very wrong. Go to John six and why does God tell us if we do not eat his body and drink his blood we will not have eternal life.
So if we are saved by faith alone,... i guess we can ignore what Jesus says
"You owe it to yourself to find the truth. The catholic interpretation of John 6 is pagan deception."
Oh really ? THe Bible is a Catholic book - so if the Catholic church is pagan - so is everything that came out of it INCLUDING the New Testament Scriptures.
So who gets to do the "non pagan" interpretation ? You ? You must be really special then.
Yeah.... really, really think about it. Think about Jesus being born... in Bethlehem... which means "house of bread." Pray to God for knowledge of His truth! Look to the man of Galilee.
Then mister scott Haha, why don't you debate Dr James White? if you have answers to prove your church then defend it in a debate with the great Dr James White???? you refuse to, that makes you not a good defender of the faith,now doesn't it?
James White doesnt debate with integrity. He simply trys to be confrontational and try's to belittle those he debates. Debates with someone like him are pointless. Maybe White should debate his own sister; she recently converted to Catholicism.
He is a good speaker, but he has stayed from the truth. He does not interpret the Bible correctly. Instead of reading out of the Bible what it actually says, he reads into it the Catholic teachings. No one will find truth that way. There is much help for people to understand the false teachings of Catholicism. See videos of the former priest Richard Bennett on You tube and Dave Hunt on False teaching, etc. God bless & give you a spirit of discernment.
I want to bury my head in my hands. Here we go again robbing Jesus of His glory. Here we go again robbing Jesus of His sole mission. Jesus did not come with an army, a political constitution, tools for building cathedrals. He did not come to write a history book of "The CHristian Wolrdview" or "The Rules of Liturgy." He came to SAVE the LOST. He died on the cross to save SOULS that are enslaved to Adam's sin and were headed for hell. "My Kingdom is not of this world" ~ Jesus Christ - John 18:36
As Christians we're called to save souls. And our own souls are only saved through faith in Jesus' death and resurrection by God's grace. We can KNOW a lot, we can DO a lot of good things, but if that was all it took to get to heaven Jesus would have never had to come down and die on the cross. If that was all it took, every religion of human achievement would get you into heaven. But Jesus said "I am the way, the truth, and the life, nobody can get to the Father except through me."
You CANNOT rob Jesus of His Glory! HE is God! This video was ONLY talking about the Old Testament and showing How God created the world and just what he created US to be and to do. His comment in this context is merely saying NOT to isolate some New Testament verses from the ENTIRE plan of God all the way up to and including Jesus Christ or you will MISS Jesus and Gods desire for you to look at the big picture and not a narrow view. We are invited into Gods very own Family! THAT is the Good News
God bless brother Scott Hahn, Marcus Grodi and most of all Mother Angelica!!
One day as I changed channels I came across a little nun quoting the bible. God bless her b/c of her and The Journey Home program I would never have come into God's Church.
As a former Southern Baptist minister I used to attack the church but brothers like Scott cleared many issues for me with the Bible, history and tradition.
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if it wasn't for Scott Hahn and EWTN i wouldn't have seen the examples of how they just talk and don't provide evidence. now i see the difference my eyes are open and i see that they don't give you what Dr James White provides. the same goes for Eric Svendsen and william webster and ex priests on the Berean Call. Thank God for these men.
You have it right shanana000, I just got done reading several books by William Webster and I have videos and books by Richard Bennett that expose the Catholic church's false teachings.
I always wondered why Scott Hahn would debate Dr James White...now i know! because he doesn't want to look like a fool like his catholic apoligest friends do!!! by the way not all of his apologest friends agree with each other..just another reason why i seen the light, catholic's say prot's aren't in agreement, well heck, neither are the catholics! thank God i left the false teaches of Scott Hahn behind..good riddens!!
You need a spirit of discernment. Are you ignorant the fact that the Catholic church killed bible believing christians and others for 600 years because they didn't agree with Rome, and you think that those 80 some popes involved in this were Peter's successors? Not a chance, there has been corruption of the truth in the "Catholic" church since the beginning. See YouTube Videos by Dave Hunt and former priest Richard Bennett and get back to believing the Bible only, not the words of men.
whoa whoa whoa...look at these verbal comments. Lets all approach things with love guys, can we? No one is a traitor except for Satan. And Conquer2day, peace be with you. You have 2000 years of apostolic succession, tradition, but most of all, love, to either share or go against.
This why I stopped debating with Protestants AND Catholics on youtube. It always ends up in empty finger-pointing and name calling IMHO. I had been guilty myself. That's why I decided to stop.
Sincerely,
Ian the former evangelical now Eastern Orthodox Christian
I was born and raised a Baptist. At the age of 30 I began to truely study my faith and theology. Two years later after much study and prayer I converted to Catholicism. Scott Hahn played a big part in this.....the Catholic Church is the "fullness of the truth." The Catholic Church is very easy to defend and as Scott points out, if you truely learn the Bible you will find the Catholic Church.
zzot2 interesting... you think you are born a Baptist? Is there a Baptist gene that needs to be discovered? How about a catholic gene? Catholicism is a cult, with lots of pomp & circumstance, flash & chrome, very religious organization but not from God, nor the real Church of Jesus. They are spitting images of the Scribes & Pharasees Jesus condemned. You pray to mary now too>? What makes you think she hears you? Repent, three is still time.
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I'd love to see a debate between Kenneth Copeland or John Hagee and this traitor to Protestantism. All Copeland would have to do is start speaking in tongues/w interpretation and Scott Hahn would be OWNED.
this is not about betrayel, it is about seeing the truth. cant you deny these Biblical truthes? he didnt get converted by catholics, the Bible, the word of God converted him. "No man will come to me unless my Father draws him to me".Dr hahn did not take the word of man is true but of God. thank you.
Is it that obvious? Sorry. Seriously, though, Scott Hahn takes a lot of pride in being able to prevail in a debate---as if winning a debate makes following him logically necessary. I'm not so sure. Some of the best debaters I've ever heard are atheists. Would that imply I have to become an atheist? Of course not.
Sang actually he and catholicism are traitors to the Word of God... along with many of the other religions... sorry.
Again, how many prayers can mary hear? she isn't God and doesn't get God powers by virtue of being in Heaven... so can she hear 2,390,815 at once? How many are fromn the heart and not spoken out loud? Perhaps only God can do this, don't you think? :) Hi
Sang they have no idea you and I are even here ... only god knows all things. God hears every prayers, knows how many hairs are on your head, sees ever bird sailing on His winds but mary ...she is a created being and hears nothing other than what she gets told, face to face. The Bible condemn praying to created beings, sorry, it make her an idol god from the graven image.
Sang, the fact is, he isn't a traitor ro anyone but himself. He, like so many have denied the treachings of Jesus and is now folowing a religion that pretty much makes it up as it goes... much like mormonism. They have rewritten their bible many time, RCC just updates theirs as needed. The guy was never a Christian to begin with, obvious by who he follows, it isn't Jesus, its a religion.
Actually, the Catholic CHurch never changed the Bible.
The change came in the early 1600s, when several blasphemers and false prophets, in an attempt to mislead the followers of Christ took 7 books out of the New Testament, then, in typical Satan fashion, presented this new canon as the true canon.
I see you are one of the unfortunate victims of these blashphemers' evil lies. You must break free of their deception.
Betrayal of which protestantism would that be then, seeing as they're all different? Luther's? Calvin's? Hubmaier's or Hus's or God forbid that of Henry VIII? Please be more precise in your bigotry.
ha ha I don't want to stray from the topic of this video but our teacher is obsessed with scott hahn and now that I see him instead of just listening to audio i can see where she gets he hand gestures from lol like at 2:01
Scott Hahn is able to ignite a passion for typology. Thanks for posting this! He's awesome in person.
(And for the posters that wonder why he teaches at Stubenville, it happens to be one of the MOST prestigious genuinely Catholic, faithfilled colleges in the USA!)
You said "despite what any of his supporters claim." In that case, the liar wouldn't be him.
Presbyterian ordination, like Diactadon said, is invalid anyway. So even if he was not "ordained" and his supporters claim he was, what difference does it make?
The point that is made is that he was a presbyterian and converted to Catholicism. And that he stands behind his conversion as the brilliant Scripture scholar that he is.
Regular Presbyterian ordination (which Hahn lacks)is "invalid" to whom? Other Romanists?
And if indeed he is such a "brilliant Scripture scholar"- as you claim- why is he teaching at such a third tier academic institution? One that admits nearly 90% of those who apply for admission.
His ordination is invalid to the Church that has the authority to ordain at all. The Catholic Church is the Church of Peter and Paul, the Church that has the authority given by Christ to ordain by the laying of hands.
"His ordination is invalid to the Church that has the authority to ordain at all.."
Three distinct traditions claim "apostolic succession"- the RC, Coptic, and Eastern Orthodox. Amazing, isn't it, thaqt each claims a separate canon of scripture? WHich is the "true apostolic church"? Ask a member of each, and you'll get three distinct answers.
" WHich is the "true apostolic church"? Ask a member of each, and you'll get three distinct answers"
Actually... no. They will all tell you that all orthodox churches AND the Catholic Church are apostolic. They all recognize the validity of each other's priesthood by the unbroken apostolic succession all the way back to the first 12.
They all accept each others sacraments. The differences between then are a lot more subtle than you think and there have been much progress to re-establish unity.
About him teaching at Steubenville, you make some assumptions: I am not familiar with the numbers, but you assume that because it admits lots of students, that it is a third tier academic institution. Maybe there are not enough people interested in a solid Catholic education in a largely protestant country? Maybe they make a point of accepting as many as they can as part of their apostolate?
You also assume that he teaches there for lack of other opportunities... I'm sure there are several other institutions that would fight for Dr. Hahn. You have no idea why he chooses to teach there.
The worldly values that give prestiege for teaching at a school with more difficult academic admission standards, is probably not important to a man such as Dr. Hahn.
"The worldly values that give prestiege for teaching at a school with more difficult academic admission standards, is probably not important to a man such as Dr. Hahn."
Yeah, those grapes are likely sour anyway, huh? Better to settle for a university which admits nearly 90% of those who apply for admission.
I am incapable of finding the "secretary of the presbytery", but google an article "The Lost Soul of Scott Hahn" written by John Robbins who is a *critic* if Mr Scott Hahn (Youtube doesnt allow posting links).
If you read the first line of the second paragraph he says, "I met him about twelve years ago when he was a Presbyterian minister living in the Washington, D.C. area." I do not believe that Mr John Robbins has any reason to lie that Mr Hahn was a Presbyterian minister.
For the record: despite what any of his supporters claim, Hahn was never "an ordained Presbyterian minister." I challange anyone to produce the name and address of the secretary of the "presbytery" that ordained him. No presbytery ever ordained him, and no Presbyterian denomination in the US (PCUSA, PCA, OPC, etc.) has any record substantiating the claim of his ever being "an ordained Presbyterian minister" prior to his conversion to Roman Catholicism.
You can be methodical & typological in your theology without being 'liturgical' on the one hand or subjective & anti intellectual on the other - that's a false dichotomy. But it is an interesting parallel he drew.
He made me think of Gerry Matatics! He should post something on youtube. He's such a flake.
So you got decieved too? Get fried from false teaching. Watch YouTube videos by Dave Hunt and Richard Bennett former priest. I just read Scott Hahn's book "Rome Sweet Home". He has his own way, the wrong way of interpreting scripture, thinking that seeing everything through covenant theology is the way to understand the Bible. That is why he is able to ignore clear scriptures on salvation by grace through faith, etc. Follow Christ, not a false church.
THe early church was the church of Corinth, NOT THE SAME HOLY CATHOLIC CHURCH WE SEE TODAY. too many contradictions with the Bible and even church history, for someone who honestly reads it...
ckellerism 4 weeks ago
please tell me where Justin Martyr, Polycarp, john the apostle, and Irenaeus believe in purgatory, prayed the rosary, bowed to statues, and prayed to Marry. Also, show me where they believed in theyre good works on partial basis of justification. Also, Contradicting the everlasting words of Jesus which cleary state not one jot or title shall pass until all is fulfilled. He that is of God heareth God's Word. Anyone want to talk early church? We can do that as well...
ckellerism 4 weeks ago
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Traitors inside the Church!!!
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JezusSlave 5 months ago
@TheGesb79 i think it's the websites that i am trying to write down. I meant to say St Ignatius of Antioch, St Irenaeus of Lyon can be read too. try Catholic Answers at catholic . com / library / peter _ and _ the _ papacy . asp agape bible study . com had it there too but i am not sure how I googled it earlier.
finallyliason 10 months ago
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finallyliason 10 months ago
@TheGesb79 Having this information and reading Matthew 16:13-20 gives these events a whole new meaning.
You can google Caesarea Philippi and see the area and the information for yourself. I would encourage you to read early Church Fathers, not in the 3rd century and beyond, but 1st and 2nd century. You can move beyond that if you wish. Especially those who sat at the feet of the Apostles. Justin Martyr (103-165), Polycarp, (69-155) disciple of John the Apostle. Irenaeus of Antioch(35-110)
finallyliason 10 months ago
@TheGesb79 I also wanted to note that it may be necessary to take in to account where Jesus and the disciples were at when the name was given. In the region of Caesarea Philippi was the place of pagan worship. There is this huge rock with a cave that in ancient times the bottom could not be felt(lowered rope and could not find bottom) so they thought this was the gate of Hades. Many niches were carved out for the idols to be placed and worshipped. One of the idols was Pan the god of sheep.
finallyliason 10 months ago
@TheGesb79 Now, keep in mind this was information that I heard Scott Hahn say on another teaching. I have googled the name and it's use in antiquity and the websites say not used before Peter. MOST were Catholic websites and some I did not see as Catholic but do not have the time to search to see what denomination they are. I looked up Hebrew baby names and this name does not appear in any of the websites I searched(Cephas and Kephas) If you come up with proof of the contrary, let me know.
finallyliason 10 months ago
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God is offended by receiving Him on "dirty" hands(ONLY priest can touch Him) in the Holy Eucharist!
Only accepted by Heaven form of receiving living Heart of Jesus Christ in the Eucharist of the Catholic Church is into our mouth and on our both knees!
God bless you and be brave
JezusSlave 11 months ago
Scott Hahn is a modern day St. Paul. God Bless the Church.
swlabr21 1 year ago 2
loosing?? is this a fight?? I thought that we were sharing our beliefs,,,, by the way, where in the Bible says that Peter is a hard pebble?
gabbydeJesus 1 year ago
The Temple was a type of Christ.. (John 2:19)
Lakeviewmom 1 year ago
OHHHH bundle of ignorant evangelicals and protestants...please...You read the Bible and yur interpretation is just about yourself, you want the Church be what you want, is dream if prosperity that make you all slaves again. You shou shut your mounth because IF you can today even read the Bible say thanks to the Catholic Church that let you to do that. At least respect and another thing, STUDY, STUDY!!!
anapaulacarlson 1 year ago
JOHN 6,48..
I am the bread of life.
I am the living bread which has come down from heaven. Anyone who eats this bread will live for ever; and the bread that I shall give is my flesh, for the life of the world.' If you do not eat the flesh of the Son of man and drink his blood, you have no life in you. Anyone who does eat my flesh and drink my blood has eternal life, and I shall raise that person up on the last day. For my flesh is real food and my blood is real drink.
Jesus´words, no idols
gabbydeJesus 1 year ago
@gabbyde Nobody can eat Christ's flesh. It ascended into Heaven 2000 years ago. He was speaking figuratively, not literally.
johnthreesixteen316 1 year ago
@johnthreesixteen316 you dont believe that He is God and He can do whatever He wants, even to give us His flesh and blood,
many jews abandoned Him because of the words, they took them literally, Jesus could have said... hey dont go, I didnt mean it, I say it figuratively... what kind a master one who doesnt explain well... even to His apostles ..He said... Do you also wish to go away?
all the protestants went away and didnt believe His words
we, catholics do
God bless :)
gabbydeJesus 1 year ago
Exodus 20:4...."Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth."
johnthreesixteen316 1 year ago
The eucharist is nothing more than a graven image of Christ.....Leviticus 26:1 “Ye shall make you no idols nor graven image, neither rear you up a standing image, neither shall ye set up any image of stone in your land, to bow down unto it: for I am the LORD your God.”
johnthreesixteen316 1 year ago
The true church of Jesus Christ is a relationship, not a membership. It doesn't have a roof or an address. We are the Body of Christ, those of us who have accepted His work on the cross for our sins 2000 years ago, once and for all. Our names have been written in the Book of Life from the beginning. 1 cross + 3 nails = 4 given.
johnthreesixteen316 1 year ago
@johnthreesixteen316 You are right. Indeed, Catholics agree with you; the Church is all the people in the world who Christ calls his own, Protestant, Roman Catholic, and Orthodox. However, Christ called for unity in that Church. Since the Reformation, Protestantism has been fracturing like a broken mirror, until the point we are today in which there are thousands of denominations. Christ founded the Church with leaders, the apostles. Without headship (leadership) the Church simply drifts.
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The wafer used in the mass. Catholics believe that the wafer turns into the actual body of Jesus Christ. This teaching, called transubstantiation, is one of their fundamentally most critical beliefs—one they believe is crucial to salvation. In reality, the wafer is nothing more than a sun symbol common in pagan religions.
avilakaj 1 year ago
Oh it makes sense your a muslim .Tell me how can you follow a false prophet ?Did you know that the Church started 625 years before Mohammad even came .He is false .Your religion is false give me a couple of days to explain to you and you will convert out of it .Your statements on the church and pediphiles are wrong
onclave6 1 year ago
Scott Hahn has a brilliant mind, but he is preaching a gospel other than the one found in the New Testament. Paul calls those who teach such "non-gospels" condemned. Without a doubt, Scott is leading thousands astray.
FiberMania 1 year ago
Scott was once a heretical protestant who led Christians astray however found the church and converted to Gods church .You may have it confused he uses to lead astray now he leads to God .Read his book"Rome Sweet Home".And then you may come home.
onclave6 1 year ago
Leading thousands away from prot-ism and back to the one true church called catholic.
AtomicMonster454 1 year ago
I am one of those protestants.
Castleman711 1 year ago
Which reformed church is the true one?
AtomicMonster454 1 year ago
None, only the Catholic church is the true church. I was once a reformed protestant, but am now a Roman Catholic.
Castleman711 1 year ago
Im sorry I must have mis-read your post !!!
Glad to hear you're catholic.
AtomicMonster454 1 year ago
@AtomicMonster454 No problem. I cannot say it enough. I was the most anti Catholic dude on earth, and I believe I knew John Calvin better than any other reformed person. I studied not only his institutes, but also studied his personal letters, and his common legal practice. I was a hardcore Calvinist. But, now that I am Catholic, reformed people like to believe I never really understood Calvin, or believed it. What morons!
Castleman711 1 year ago
@Castleman711 --Now that you are Catholic, who is your fave theologian?
AtomicMonster454 1 year ago
@AtomicMonster454 It depends. One thing that I have noted, is that in Protestant theology, they have Calvin. But in the Catholic Church, there are hundreds of John Calvin's. I would say, that my favorite modern theologian, is probably Ratzinger (pope). If only people realized, that Ratzinger is one of the greatest theologians to ever live, and he is alive today. As for past theologians, I would have to say that Clement is my favorite.
Castleman711 1 year ago
@Castleman711 --"hundreds of Calvins" -you mean folks like Schleebx and Kung, goofs like that? And yes the Holy Father is an awesome theologian and teacher; Adrian Von Speyer is good as well.
AtomicMonster454 1 year ago
Can you illustrate, what it is "the true Gospel" message is? I hear this Galatians 1 rebuke by protestants all of the time, but protestants always presuppose that they have the gospel according to Paul and Christ, and cannot figure out, that they are just reading the scriptures wrong.
Castleman711 1 year ago
If you find this interesting, I think you may find the book on Genesis "The Lost World of Genesis One" by the Protestant scholar John Walton. It makes the point Hahn is making here in a very detailed manner.
brucefetter 2 years ago
Ephesians 2:8
For by Grace are ye saved through faith and that not of yourselves it is theGIFT of God, not of works lest anyman should boast.
jamesglory1 2 years ago
In Ephesians 2,you should read verse 5 ."even when we are dead in our transgressions brought to life with Christ(by grace you have been saved)"
This is proof that we are not saved by faith alone so Solo Fide can not exist .(Guess you forgot to read the chapter huh
onclave6 2 years ago
The King James Bible reads (Eph2:5)
'even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ,( by Grace are ye saved: )
must have read the wrong bible 'Huh'.
God bless you. The scripture I quoted says Grace through Faith, perhaps you read it wrong.
jamesglory1 2 years ago
@jamesglory
hyuck, i guess if he read the king james he read the wrong bible, hyuck,
ah, james 2:14 fool, what good is faith without good works!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
fromsuncity1 2 years ago
Oh dear double 'duh'!
This passage is after salvation, not works to get saved!
You're reading it wrong, must be your 'bible' wrong not my KJV!
Read the rest of chapter it might put it in context for you. Tho probably not.
Nice to call people names, very christian of you.
Quadruple duuuuuuuuuuh!!!
You haven't got a leg to stand on.
God bless good bye.
I would stay but I won't debate abusive people.
jamesglory1 2 years ago
james 2:24, duhhhhhh
fromsuncity1 2 years ago
In Protestant theology salvation is made up of a three step progress: justification, sanctification, and glorification. This verse does read justification, this verse reads salvation. What you are trying to say this verse opposes in Catholicism would also oppose Protestantism.
jameysturgill 2 years ago
read the previous verses to that chapter .We are saved by Gods grace ."We are not justified by faith alone"(James 2:24)you need to read a full Bible
onclave6 2 years ago
@onclave6 : We cannot earn salvation. Good works are the evidence of a saving faith my friend, not the cause.
FiberMania 1 year ago
Salvation is a continual process .Read your bible one can not have true faith without producing works .We are not saved by Grace alone for it is GOds grace that saves us .
onclave6 1 year ago
"And now there remain faith, hope, and charity, these three: but the greatest of these is charity."
Whorsquini 2 years ago
FOR THOSE OF YOU TRYING TO CONVINCE the non Catholics, a word of wisdom here. (former PROTESTANT)
Leave them alone in their confusion, no matter how much you reason with them they will always find an excuse...Their hearts have been POISONED against the Church. Only a HUMBLE heart accepts when they are wrong.
John Martignoni says it very well, TRUTH is a person=JESUS and they really don't want to know the truth, it's a matter of pride they refuse to acknowledge they have been wrong. GET IT?
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cathoman7 2 years ago
If you are into this, you may find the book "The Lost world of genesis one" by walton useful
brucefetter 2 years ago
If the bible alone is enough, why do all 1,000 plus evangelical groups all have their own interpretation. It's obvious the Holy Spirit isn't to blame. You don't believe the bible, you believe your founder's interpretation, period. Of course he will tell you it's the Holy Spirits interpretation.
miotico 2 years ago 25
@miotico Hello friend. The true church of Jesus Christ is a relationship, not a membership. It isn’t any particular protestant denomination or Roman catholic. It doesn't have a roof or an address. We are the Body of Christ, past, present and future from all around the world who have accepted Christ’s work on the cross for our sins 2000 years ago, once and for all. Our names have been written in the Book of Life from the beginning. 1 cross + 3 nails = 4 given.
johnthreesixteen316 1 year ago
@johnthreesixteen316 hello dear john, of course we are the body of Christ but if you have read the old testament, God wanted Solomon built a temple where everybody can gather together for offering sacrifices and in the new testament Jesus gave us his body and blood ... and said to Peter: Matthew 16, 18
And I tell you that you are Peter and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it.
The mass is the lambs supper .. inside the church
gabbydeJesus 1 year ago
@gabbydeJesus The Greek says, 'for thou art petros.' The church is not built upon Peter. It is built upon faith in Christ.
johnthreesixteen316 1 year ago
@johnthreesixteen316 Every time that in the Bible there is a change of name there is a mission.. i.e. Sara to Sarah, Jacob to Israel
Simon to Petros
only the catholic church was built by Jesus
the rest were built by men since the reformation of Lutero around 1500
warm greetings :)
gabbydeJesus 1 year ago
@johnthreesixteen316 the Bible does not say... the church is built upon faith in me.... does it?
For THOU (referring to Peter) art PETROS
it does not say ...for ME ...am Christ and upon faith on ME
that is your personal interpretation and of the rest of the protestants, otherwise you would have to addmit that is built on Peter.... just like the Bible says...
regards ;)
gabbydeJesus 1 year ago
@gabbydeJesus Well, Peter could not have been the first pope, considering that he was married, he betrayed Jesus and also Paul was teaching him how to behave with jews and pagans.
2 Samuel 22:32
For who is God, save the LORD? and who is a rock, save our God?
1 Samuel 2:2
There is none holy as the LORD: for there is none beside thee: neither is there any rock like our God.
God bless you.
shlukh 1 year ago
@shlukh Jesus knew that he was married , that was not a betrayal :)
If u have read the Bible, you must know why Jesus changed the name of Simon to Peter.....
so tell me; why Jesus changed his name?
God bless you as well :)
gabbydeJesus 1 year ago
@gabbydeJesus He denied Jesus, when Jesus went on the cross to die for hes sins. Can the pope do that? I dont think any believer can, and get to heaven. But mostly it just shows that Peter was not infallible, as a pope ought to be.
There was another Simon among the apostles, Simon the Canaanite. Mat. 10:4
shlukh 1 year ago
@shlukh John 21, 15- 17
When they had eaten, Jesus said to Simon Peter, 'Simon son of John, do you love me more than these others do?' He answered, 'Yes, Lord, you know I love you.' Jesus said to him, 'Feed my lambs.' ...
A second time 'Look after my sheep.'
Then he said to him a third time,' Jesus said to him, 'Feed my sheep
You should believe the Jesus and the authority he gave to Peter...
but still you have not answered:
why Jesus changed his name????
gabbydeJesus 1 year ago
@gabbydeJesus
Jesus did not change Peter's name; it was his 'nick name' all his life because he was stubborn. Peter means small hard pebble, which he was as a child when he acquired the name.
The "Rock," on the other hand, upon which the church is founded is Jesus Christ himself.
casurveyor6357 1 year ago
@casurveyor6357 YOU MUST READ THE BIBLE, EVERYTIME THERE IS A CHANGE OF NAME IN THE BIBLE, MEANS THERE IS A MISSION
I.E.
ABRAM TO ABRAHAM
SARA TO SARAI
JACOB TO ISRAEL
YOU MUST UNDERSTAND THIS, OF COURSE IF YOU ARE A PROTESTANT BELIEVER, YOUR "CHURCH" WONT EXPLAIN THIS TO YOU.
GREETINGS :)
gabbydeJesus 1 year ago
@gabbydeJesus
In this case, there was no name change. The Lord was commenting on the name that Peter had been known by all his life (hard pebble), and contrasting it with himself, the Rock, on whom all things are founded.
BTW, it was Sarai to Sarah, not Sarah to Sarai ;o)
Protestants know the Bible more fully, and deeply than Catholics ever can, because so much of the Bible is condemnation of disobedient Catholic doctrine, causing them to go glassey eyed and skip over those passages.
casurveyor6357 1 year ago
@casurveyor6357 matthew 16,18
ACCORDING TO YOU IT SAYS:::::
So I now say to you: YOU are Peter (HARD PEBBLE) (where on the biblie????)and on this rock (ON ME; JESUS CHRIST) I will build my community. And the gates of the underworld can never overpower it. I will give you the keys of the kingdom of Heaven: ( I WILL GIVE THEM TO MYSELF) whatever YOU bind on earth will be bound in heaven; whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven.'
voila!! protestants interpretation :D
gabbydeJesus 1 year ago
@gabbydeJesus
I know you love to debate your strawmen, but it is you that end up losing - Eternal Life, that is!
casurveyor6357 1 year ago
@gabbydeJesus In Hebrew they have feminine and masculine words. But sometimes they’re weird, like a group of fathers in Hebrew is a feminine word. In Greek, the word for rock is grammatically feminine. To make it a man’s name you have to add –s (petra to petras; Jesus names him rocky, not rockalina). Jesus was speaking Aramaic, the word for rock has no gender in aramaic (Kepha – we see this word later as Peter’s name, Cephas). “I will give you the keys to the Kingdom of heaven” - Isaiah 22:22
timh7403 1 year ago
@casurveyor6357 Peter's name (the Hebrew "kephas") means rock. That wasn't too common a name until the first century. It was given to Peter by Jesus. Before this instance Peter is known as Simon-Peter. A name change indicates a change in role. And yes, the Church does explain this to you, when you ask. How can protestants know the bible more fully? They threw out the deuterocanonical books. The canon was solemnly defined in 1441 in Florence and hadn't changed since Rome382,before the Reformation
timh7403 1 year ago
@timh7403 I heard Scott say that kephas was not a name that could be found in antiquity. It was an object and not a name until Peter.
finallyliason 10 months ago
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@casurveyor6357 you're joking, right?
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@johnthreesixteen316
"The Greek says, 'for thou art petros.' The church is not built upon Peter. It is built upon faith in Christ. "
Thats garbage johnthreesixteen316. Mainline protestants gave up that garbage argument years ago. Time to update your anti catholic cookbook with some new garbage.
MrJamesthecatholic 11 months ago
@miotico Like Fr. Corapi says: "division is from the Devil"! Protestantism is nothing but division masked as a more 'acceptable', 'tolerant', 'welcoming' etc....church.
777ChiRho 1 year ago
You guys have to understand that protestants and sects have been fed that the bible alone is required to know Jesus for centuries now. However, if these people would be around back 350 years after Jesus, they would have rejected him because there was no written bible for the public. What would they say then? Perhaps, "I only believe what I see."
miotico 2 years ago 2
Scott Hahn is going to be at Mount Saint Mary's in Emmitsburg, MD, this Friday and Saturday, 20 and 21 March 2009. He's going to be talking about High Theology.
marlenatowson 3 years ago
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I think I saw scott hahn in a porno one time.
TheBackOfTheBoat 3 years ago
Very enlightenig lecture. This man is blest indeed. He is anointed.
Thanks for sharing.
Welldone and God bless †
benaggreyfynn 3 years ago
Dr Haun Bless you for answering God's call. Blessed are those
who are persecuted for My Namesake.
GuitarSamurai62 3 years ago 2
creathavok, isee you have so much dirt in your mouth. Scott Hahn found the Catholic Churchthrough spiritual guidance and deep scripture understanding.
Here's how easy it is. If the reformation was right. Does that mean that every christian prior to 1517 did the wrong thing. And also remember, when the bible was written, ... there was no reformation,.. Get The picture ?
the closer you get to how early christians who were closer to Jesus and the apostles, the more u understand his decision
uche6472 3 years ago
Salvation by Faith is not wrong, Salvation by Faith alone is Very wrong. Go to John six and why does God tell us if we do not eat his body and drink his blood we will not have eternal life.
So if we are saved by faith alone,... i guess we can ignore what Jesus says
uche6472 3 years ago
@uche6472
You owe it to yourself to find the truth. The catholic interpretation of John 6 is pagan deception.
casurveyor6357 1 year ago
@casurveyor6357 I think any other interpretation is Gnostic...
cynderthedragoness99 1 year ago
@cynderthedragoness99
You simply parrot a word that you do not understand: Gnostic.
casurveyor6357 1 year ago
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@casurveyor6357
"You owe it to yourself to find the truth. The catholic interpretation of John 6 is pagan deception."
Oh really ? THe Bible is a Catholic book - so if the Catholic church is pagan - so is everything that came out of it INCLUDING the New Testament Scriptures.
So who gets to do the "non pagan" interpretation ? You ? You must be really special then.
MrJamesthecatholic 11 months ago
Jesus forgave sins...
The Catholic Church forgives sins.
Jesus spoke with the authority of God...
The Catholic Church speaks with the authority of God.
If you read the Bible with new eyes you will see that the Catholic Church... is... Jesus.
soiltreefruit 3 years ago
Yea I know as paul saids the church is the body of christ
zekiDan 3 years ago
Yeah.... really, really think about it. Think about Jesus being born... in Bethlehem... which means "house of bread." Pray to God for knowledge of His truth! Look to the man of Galilee.
soiltreefruit 3 years ago
Then mister scott Haha, why don't you debate Dr James White? if you have answers to prove your church then defend it in a debate with the great Dr James White???? you refuse to, that makes you not a good defender of the faith,now doesn't it?
shanana000 3 years ago
James White doesnt debate with integrity. He simply trys to be confrontational and try's to belittle those he debates. Debates with someone like him are pointless. Maybe White should debate his own sister; she recently converted to Catholicism.
CatholicTruthApolog 3 years ago 25
I'm not a Catholic (yet!) but really quite like Dr. Hahn, fascinating man...
baldwalrus7 3 years ago
He is a good speaker, but he has stayed from the truth. He does not interpret the Bible correctly. Instead of reading out of the Bible what it actually says, he reads into it the Catholic teachings. No one will find truth that way. There is much help for people to understand the false teachings of Catholicism. See videos of the former priest Richard Bennett on You tube and Dave Hunt on False teaching, etc. God bless & give you a spirit of discernment.
RichardFriend48 3 years ago
Hi Richard, took your advice and watched a few of Richard Bennett's videos. I was underwhelmed.
pw528 3 years ago
Why were you underwelmed?
Did you see the one on the Inquistion by Richard Bennett?
RichardFriend48 3 years ago
I want to bury my head in my hands. Here we go again robbing Jesus of His glory. Here we go again robbing Jesus of His sole mission. Jesus did not come with an army, a political constitution, tools for building cathedrals. He did not come to write a history book of "The CHristian Wolrdview" or "The Rules of Liturgy." He came to SAVE the LOST. He died on the cross to save SOULS that are enslaved to Adam's sin and were headed for hell. "My Kingdom is not of this world" ~ Jesus Christ - John 18:36
iheartmichelangelo 3 years ago 2
As Christians we're called to save souls. And our own souls are only saved through faith in Jesus' death and resurrection by God's grace. We can KNOW a lot, we can DO a lot of good things, but if that was all it took to get to heaven Jesus would have never had to come down and die on the cross. If that was all it took, every religion of human achievement would get you into heaven. But Jesus said "I am the way, the truth, and the life, nobody can get to the Father except through me."
iheartmichelangelo 3 years ago
Jesus gave rules for Liturgy:
- "Go out and baptize all men..."
- "Take this all of you and eat it... do this in memory of me."
- "Take this all of you and drink it"
- "Jesus said to them, 'Amen, amen, I say to you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you do not have life within you.' "
soiltreefruit 3 years ago
get out of the box of catholicism and open your mind and compare it to scripture. rome isn't the one true church.
shanana000 3 years ago
You CANNOT rob Jesus of His Glory! HE is God! This video was ONLY talking about the Old Testament and showing How God created the world and just what he created US to be and to do. His comment in this context is merely saying NOT to isolate some New Testament verses from the ENTIRE plan of God all the way up to and including Jesus Christ or you will MISS Jesus and Gods desire for you to look at the big picture and not a narrow view. We are invited into Gods very own Family! THAT is the Good News
mkn2929 3 years ago
God bless brother Scott Hahn, Marcus Grodi and most of all Mother Angelica!!
One day as I changed channels I came across a little nun quoting the bible. God bless her b/c of her and The Journey Home program I would never have come into God's Church.
As a former Southern Baptist minister I used to attack the church but brothers like Scott cleared many issues for me with the Bible, history and tradition.
Thank you all!!
legalrule 4 years ago 6
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if it wasn't for Scott Hahn and EWTN i wouldn't have seen the examples of how they just talk and don't provide evidence. now i see the difference my eyes are open and i see that they don't give you what Dr James White provides. the same goes for Eric Svendsen and william webster and ex priests on the Berean Call. Thank God for these men.
shanana000 3 years ago
You have it right shanana000, I just got done reading several books by William Webster and I have videos and books by Richard Bennett that expose the Catholic church's false teachings.
RichardFriend48 3 years ago
I always wondered why Scott Hahn would debate Dr James White...now i know! because he doesn't want to look like a fool like his catholic apoligest friends do!!! by the way not all of his apologest friends agree with each other..just another reason why i seen the light, catholic's say prot's aren't in agreement, well heck, neither are the catholics! thank God i left the false teaches of Scott Hahn behind..good riddens!!
shanana000 3 years ago
You need a spirit of discernment. Are you ignorant the fact that the Catholic church killed bible believing christians and others for 600 years because they didn't agree with Rome, and you think that those 80 some popes involved in this were Peter's successors? Not a chance, there has been corruption of the truth in the "Catholic" church since the beginning. See YouTube Videos by Dave Hunt and former priest Richard Bennett and get back to believing the Bible only, not the words of men.
RichardFriend48 3 years ago
Scott Hahn is doing God's work with his evangelizing for the one true Faith. God Bless him.
keystothekingdom777 4 years ago 3
AMEN!!
conservative44 4 years ago
whoa whoa whoa...look at these verbal comments. Lets all approach things with love guys, can we? No one is a traitor except for Satan. And Conquer2day, peace be with you. You have 2000 years of apostolic succession, tradition, but most of all, love, to either share or go against.
With love, and love only,
Fred
fredeezee 4 years ago
This why I stopped debating with Protestants AND Catholics on youtube. It always ends up in empty finger-pointing and name calling IMHO. I had been guilty myself. That's why I decided to stop.
Sincerely,
Ian the former evangelical now Eastern Orthodox Christian
sprtslvr1973 4 years ago
CONQUER2DAY has NOBODY to talk to ... always on Catholic Sites looking for trouble
Pray for him/her!!!!!!!!!
IAmBiggestFan 4 years ago
I was born and raised a Baptist. At the age of 30 I began to truely study my faith and theology. Two years later after much study and prayer I converted to Catholicism. Scott Hahn played a big part in this.....the Catholic Church is the "fullness of the truth." The Catholic Church is very easy to defend and as Scott points out, if you truely learn the Bible you will find the Catholic Church.
zzot2 4 years ago 2
zzot2 interesting... you think you are born a Baptist? Is there a Baptist gene that needs to be discovered? How about a catholic gene? Catholicism is a cult, with lots of pomp & circumstance, flash & chrome, very religious organization but not from God, nor the real Church of Jesus. They are spitting images of the Scribes & Pharasees Jesus condemned. You pray to mary now too>? What makes you think she hears you? Repent, three is still time.
Conquer2day 4 years ago
"Repent, there is still time."
I was about to say the same thing to you.
You are already 52. You are old and grey, so you don't have much time left; repent now while you have the chance!
Sanguiluna 4 years ago
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I'd love to see a debate between Kenneth Copeland or John Hagee and this traitor to Protestantism. All Copeland would have to do is start speaking in tongues/w interpretation and Scott Hahn would be OWNED.
hoggdawn 4 years ago
this is not about betrayel, it is about seeing the truth. cant you deny these Biblical truthes? he didnt get converted by catholics, the Bible, the word of God converted him. "No man will come to me unless my Father draws him to me".Dr hahn did not take the word of man is true but of God. thank you.
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knowall77 4 years ago 2
You're so full of it - it's coming out of your mouth - its supposed to come out of your *&^
IAmBiggestFan 4 years ago
Is it that obvious? Sorry. Seriously, though, Scott Hahn takes a lot of pride in being able to prevail in a debate---as if winning a debate makes following him logically necessary. I'm not so sure. Some of the best debaters I've ever heard are atheists. Would that imply I have to become an atheist? Of course not.
hoggdawn 4 years ago
You sound intelligent - its not a matter or pride.
IAmBiggestFan 4 years ago
lol - heyyyyy, when you're rite, you're rite.
IAmBiggestFan 4 years ago
Actually, he isn't a traitor to Protestantism; all Protestants are traitors to Catholicism.
Sanguiluna 4 years ago
Sang actually he and catholicism are traitors to the Word of God... along with many of the other religions... sorry.
Again, how many prayers can mary hear? she isn't God and doesn't get God powers by virtue of being in Heaven... so can she hear 2,390,815 at once? How many are fromn the heart and not spoken out loud? Perhaps only God can do this, don't you think? :) Hi
Conquer2day 4 years ago
If your prayers are all words, but no heart in them, it doesn't matter who hears them-God, Mary, St.paul- they'll probably ignore you.
Sanguiluna 4 years ago
Sang they have no idea you and I are even here ... only god knows all things. God hears every prayers, knows how many hairs are on your head, sees ever bird sailing on His winds but mary ...she is a created being and hears nothing other than what she gets told, face to face. The Bible condemn praying to created beings, sorry, it make her an idol god from the graven image.
Conquer2day 4 years ago
Sang, the fact is, he isn't a traitor ro anyone but himself. He, like so many have denied the treachings of Jesus and is now folowing a religion that pretty much makes it up as it goes... much like mormonism. They have rewritten their bible many time, RCC just updates theirs as needed. The guy was never a Christian to begin with, obvious by who he follows, it isn't Jesus, its a religion.
Conquer2day 4 years ago
Actually, the Catholic CHurch never changed the Bible.
The change came in the early 1600s, when several blasphemers and false prophets, in an attempt to mislead the followers of Christ took 7 books out of the New Testament, then, in typical Satan fashion, presented this new canon as the true canon.
I see you are one of the unfortunate victims of these blashphemers' evil lies. You must break free of their deception.
Sanguiluna 4 years ago 3
Betrayal of which protestantism would that be then, seeing as they're all different? Luther's? Calvin's? Hubmaier's or Hus's or God forbid that of Henry VIII? Please be more precise in your bigotry.
heimdallhinfrode 2 years ago
ha ha I don't want to stray from the topic of this video but our teacher is obsessed with scott hahn and now that I see him instead of just listening to audio i can see where she gets he hand gestures from lol like at 2:01
BosSpyda 4 years ago
Scott Hahn is pretty darn good with a guitar too. :)
farsight001 4 years ago
He is great. His books are awesome.
todayspilgrim 4 years ago 3
Scott Hahn is able to ignite a passion for typology. Thanks for posting this! He's awesome in person.
(And for the posters that wonder why he teaches at Stubenville, it happens to be one of the MOST prestigious genuinely Catholic, faithfilled colleges in the USA!)
Papalheart 4 years ago 5
BenAliGtor,
You said "despite what any of his supporters claim." In that case, the liar wouldn't be him.
Presbyterian ordination, like Diactadon said, is invalid anyway. So even if he was not "ordained" and his supporters claim he was, what difference does it make?
The point that is made is that he was a presbyterian and converted to Catholicism. And that he stands behind his conversion as the brilliant Scripture scholar that he is.
Remontech 4 years ago
Regular Presbyterian ordination (which Hahn lacks)is "invalid" to whom? Other Romanists?
And if indeed he is such a "brilliant Scripture scholar"- as you claim- why is he teaching at such a third tier academic institution? One that admits nearly 90% of those who apply for admission.
BenAliGtor 4 years ago
His ordination is invalid to the Church that has the authority to ordain at all. The Catholic Church is the Church of Peter and Paul, the Church that has the authority given by Christ to ordain by the laying of hands.
cesarabeid 4 years ago
"His ordination is invalid to the Church that has the authority to ordain at all.."
Three distinct traditions claim "apostolic succession"- the RC, Coptic, and Eastern Orthodox. Amazing, isn't it, thaqt each claims a separate canon of scripture? WHich is the "true apostolic church"? Ask a member of each, and you'll get three distinct answers.
BenAliGtor 4 years ago
" WHich is the "true apostolic church"? Ask a member of each, and you'll get three distinct answers"
Actually... no. They will all tell you that all orthodox churches AND the Catholic Church are apostolic. They all recognize the validity of each other's priesthood by the unbroken apostolic succession all the way back to the first 12.
cesarabeid 4 years ago
They all accept each others sacraments. The differences between then are a lot more subtle than you think and there have been much progress to re-establish unity.
cesarabeid 4 years ago
About him teaching at Steubenville, you make some assumptions: I am not familiar with the numbers, but you assume that because it admits lots of students, that it is a third tier academic institution. Maybe there are not enough people interested in a solid Catholic education in a largely protestant country? Maybe they make a point of accepting as many as they can as part of their apostolate?
cesarabeid 4 years ago
You also assume that he teaches there for lack of other opportunities... I'm sure there are several other institutions that would fight for Dr. Hahn. You have no idea why he chooses to teach there.
cesarabeid 4 years ago
" I'm sure there are several other institutions that would fight for Dr. Hahn"
WHen you see UND, G-Town, Fordham, or even Marquette, offering him a tenured position, let us know..
BenAliGtor 4 years ago
"WHen you see UND, G-Town, Fordham, or even Marquette, offering him a tenured position, let us know.. "
Wow, it looks like you read his diary. How do you know they haven't offered him? Again, you assume too much.
cesarabeid 4 years ago
The worldly values that give prestiege for teaching at a school with more difficult academic admission standards, is probably not important to a man such as Dr. Hahn.
Norikokun7 4 years ago
"The worldly values that give prestiege for teaching at a school with more difficult academic admission standards, is probably not important to a man such as Dr. Hahn."
Yeah, those grapes are likely sour anyway, huh? Better to settle for a university which admits nearly 90% of those who apply for admission.
BenAliGtor 4 years ago
The more people admitted, the more people can hear him talk.
Norikokun7 4 years ago
@Remontech Sour grapes, huh, child?
BenAliGtor 5 months ago
"Even if Mr. Hahn was "ordained" as a Presb. minister his "ordination" is 100% invalid; I may as well have laid hands on him. "
Then you're saying he's both a liar AND a fraud?
BenAliGtor 4 years ago
Hahn was never ordained by any presbytery of any Presbyterian denomination- irrespective of what Mr. Robbins stated. My challange still stands.
BenAliGtor 4 years ago
Even if Mr. Hahn was "ordained" as a Presb. minister his "ordination" is 100% invalid; I may as well have laid hands on him.
Diactadon 4 years ago
I am incapable of finding the "secretary of the presbytery", but google an article "The Lost Soul of Scott Hahn" written by John Robbins who is a *critic* if Mr Scott Hahn (Youtube doesnt allow posting links).
If you read the first line of the second paragraph he says, "I met him about twelve years ago when he was a Presbyterian minister living in the Washington, D.C. area." I do not believe that Mr John Robbins has any reason to lie that Mr Hahn was a Presbyterian minister.
katycat1 4 years ago
For the record: despite what any of his supporters claim, Hahn was never "an ordained Presbyterian minister." I challange anyone to produce the name and address of the secretary of the "presbytery" that ordained him. No presbytery ever ordained him, and no Presbyterian denomination in the US (PCUSA, PCA, OPC, etc.) has any record substantiating the claim of his ever being "an ordained Presbyterian minister" prior to his conversion to Roman Catholicism.
BenAliGtor 4 years ago
Who should care. . .Listen to this message. Read your Bible.
FernandMarias 4 years ago 3
If he's a liar, his "message" is that of a liar.
BenAliGtor 4 years ago
Excellent, but only the tip of the iceberg. Go to his website Salvation History dot com for an expanded view of these teachings.
mthw16 4 years ago
You can be methodical & typological in your theology without being 'liturgical' on the one hand or subjective & anti intellectual on the other - that's a false dichotomy. But it is an interesting parallel he drew.
He made me think of Gerry Matatics! He should post something on youtube. He's such a flake.
AQuinault 5 years ago
What a lovely teaching .
damanik1978 5 years ago
Scott Hahn rocks! I wish I'm one of his students!
magicdaniel23 5 years ago
So you got decieved too? Get fried from false teaching. Watch YouTube videos by Dave Hunt and Richard Bennett former priest. I just read Scott Hahn's book "Rome Sweet Home". He has his own way, the wrong way of interpreting scripture, thinking that seeing everything through covenant theology is the way to understand the Bible. That is why he is able to ignore clear scriptures on salvation by grace through faith, etc. Follow Christ, not a false church.
RichardFriend48 3 years ago