Selfridge Profile

[thelittlemind]

This is basiclly what USA did to the natives when usa found gold in the native american lands the only difference is the year.... but still great movie

[Cordar]

@thelittlemind The USA did not even exist back then as a nation. And the conflict with the natives bloomed up for entirely different reasons.

[thelittlemind]

@Cordar ... remember the black hills. remember custer???? remember when the natives were living peacefully after you tossed them out of florida? When they settled on "your" gold you guys kicked them out again and used violent terms... samething with avatar... the Navi (w/e u spell it) lived peacefully until humans started to poke their heads into their homeland and their home

[Cordar]

@thelittlemind Gee, first off, I'm not american. And the native americans weren't peaceful, and they were very destructive to their surroundings. And the Na'vi's aren't exactly peaceful as they got the path of the warrior seperate from that of hunter, war do happen amongst them.

And I must add, the attack on the home tree only occurred after decades of Na'vi aggression against RDA assets and personnel. Some saints them blue-skins are...

[thelittlemind]

@Cordar once again who was ther first native americans or explorers... the Na'vi were there first when humans started to use mgs then the na'vi responded in defense.. also how are natives destructive to their surroundings when they respected nature lolz

[Cordar]

@thelittlemind Tell that to all the animal species they hunted to extinction, the tally of extinct species by the native americans far outnumber those of the Europeans. Not to mention the inter-tribal warfare and the forests burned down to clear for agriculture.

And the Na'vi are the ones with the most offenses. What was the fate of the first Human diplomat who tried to make first contact? He was killed on sight by them. And that''s just one of the atrocities.

[thelittlemind]

@Cordar WHAT LOLOLOLOL how the fuck did natives kill off animals if they depended on them for everything... americans killed them off just because a fucking buffalo was on a railroad they would kill it take its hide and leave it to the vultures.. the natives would respect the buffalo kill as much as they needed and USED every little bit of it.... dont forget how did the diplomat arrive there on the plaines or did they demolish there world in order to land there on a runway or pad

[Cordar]

@thelittlemind Dwell in your little disney world all you want. It's been proven through archeology and paleontology that the native americans were in fact very destructive to their surroundings. For example from over-farming and hunting a large number of animal species to extinction.

[thelittlemind]

@Cordar ok? when non native americans have houses and road which destroy land and nattives have fucking tents and no roads also they depended on the buffalo on everything so why would they kill off most of their food supply... are you really that fucking stupid im sorry but who ever u listned too in archeology and paleontology they either were getiing drunk or getting high at the time

[Cordar]

@thelittlemind It's a proven fact from completely legitimate sources, you dimwit. The Native americans you adore as respectful of nature are nothing but romanticism based on new age beliefs, which more often than not are inaccurate.

[thelittlemind]

@Cordar i dont adore them dumbass... im telling you straight forward natives wouldnt destroy "nature" because of their fear in god and shit... personally IDC about natives... but when someone says they are destructive... well then i need a really smart answer on how the fuck are they destructive to nature when they treat it as though it were gold compared to euros and other nations where we tear down forrest etc

[Cordar]

@thelittlemind See the website and section I offered in the comment from yesterday. A very comprehensive list of how much they have destroyed over thousands of years. And read it thoroughly.

[Cordar]

@thelittlemind Just to hammer the nail in. Go to Marinebio . org and read the section "A history of wildlife in North America."

[thelittlemind]

@Cordar When the first Europeans arrived in North America and pushed their settlements into the interior, they were often impressed with the abundance of wildlife (Warren 2003).... want me to keep qouteing the story or will you find a source worth giving me something to understand your point and i f u start talking about the fires... thats hwo they trapped their mammoths until the rest died from dehydrations and other predators but otherwise not destructive as u say

[Cordar]

@thelittlemind You did not even bother to read the whole thing of what I've offered, did you? Your so head deep in the disney movie variety of the natives that you can't see the truth. The Native americans completely destabilized the entire ecology in North America. You speak of Bisons, yet you ignore all the other species that have been hunted to extinction previously, and all other species that have died because of those acts. Europeans did nothing in comparison.

[thelittlemind]

@Cordar the section u specifically told me to read showed no support to you destructive native americans

[Cordar]

@thelittlemind How in the world you managed to ignore everything that supports the fact that the native american's weren't a nature loving people are beyond me. Unless you deliberately turn a blind eye to most of it bar the portions you like.

[Cordar]

@thelittlemind The principal alternative hypothesis to explain the rapid loss of this megafauna is the impact of climatic changes that occurred with the end of the ice age 13,000 years ago. There has also been a tendency to challenge the Pleistocene Overkill hypothesis by those who want to romanticize hunter-gatherers as living perfectly in balance with nature. (Continued on next post)

[Cordar]

@thelittlemind (Continued from latest post) But new data and discoveries by scientists increasingly confirm that the first Native Americans were indeed responsible for the extinction of these species.

[Cordar]

@thelittlemind Not to mention, additional excerpt: One major, well-documented ecosystem alteration by Native Americans peoples was the burning of grasslands and forests, often deliberately, which kept them open and provided habitat for favored food animals such as bison and deer.

[thelittlemind]

@Cordar lol those are hunting techniques used by cavemen lol the burning stopped after the horse came... and still the burning was used in desperate times

[Cordar]

@thelittlemind Then your not reading it correctly. Or you are just not able to believe pure facts even if it slaps your romanticized beliefs in the face.

And Horses native to America was hunted to extinction thousands of years ago by native americans. Horses was only reintroduced by the Europeans arrival.

[thelittlemind]

@Cordar ARE U STUPID there never were horses in america until the first explorers brought them wow dude u really need to brush up on some real history instead of internet hoax

[Cordar]

@thelittlemind Gee, did you just go and commit genocide on your own brain cells?

There existed horses in America in the form of the Equus scotti until they were hunted to extinction during the pleistocene epoch by the native americans.

[thelittlemind]

@Cordar thats saying the same thing as europeans killing all cows..... thats stupid they would have used them not kill them

[Cordar]

@thelittlemind Are you so deluded that you are incapable of accepting facts?

[thelittlemind]

@Cordar what facts??? facts that some retarded person decided to post on the internet compared to historians who stated as a FACT the europeans brought horses to America.... The columbian exchange read about it then youll see why large amount of mustangs were roaming free BECAUSE of spanish galleons sinking or horses running away they werent hunted were they noooo..... so wheres your damn proven facts that they hunted horses NO WHERE

[Cordar]

@thelittlemind There weren't any horses between that and the extinction of the Equus scotti. The only reason that the Mustangs lived was that the Native Americans eventually became intelligent enough to start to domesticate animals instead of just slaughtering them. But do you honestly believe the Native americans came into existence all of a sudden a mere few hundred years ago? They had been around for much longer than that and caused massive damage to the ecology. That's what your ignoring.

[Cordar]

@thelittlemind And you have basically been partly repeating what I've been telling you. Except the fact that I never said that they hunted to extinction the horses that the Europeans brought in. I explicitly told you that they hunted the horse species native to America to extinction. Not the horses brought by the Europeans thousands of years later.

You have been shooting yourself in the foot, with a cannon no less.

[thelittlemind]

@Cordar well thats kind of painful...anyways what im trying to tell u is that there WASNT any horses native to america until the europeans arrived.. thats what im trying to tell u

[Cordar]

@thelittlemind That's where you are wrong. I've already told you that the Equus scotti was in fact native to america. There was more types of Equidae native to america at the time, but in the end all of them became extinct in the pleistocene mass-extinction event.

[thelittlemind]

@Cordar so plz tell me why the hell in all the school around the world teach kids that the horse was brought over to america from Europe?

[Cordar]

@thelittlemind Because they don't want to put native americans in a bad light. Anything that describes them as anything but a perfect peaceful society that existed in perfect harmony with nature are often a big no.

New discoveries either take a long time to circulate properly or people simply don't want to upset the established romanticised image of them.

I've had to dig through many science related sites and magazines where such discoveries are listed and displayed in detail.

[Cordar]

@thelittlemind Those things or they don't cover most things that have happened in history. Back when I was going to school, I never even heard of the pleistocene for example. Nor did I hear of the vast majority of the animal species I know about now from simply browsing the internet and science related media.

[thelittlemind]

@Cordar true on that... i have been looking up what u have told me and from what i understand most of the larger animals or animals used to the ice age died after the ice age ended and from what i understand also the Equidae have died off as the ice age ended now i could be wrong or right but the way i understand it wasnt due to natives killing them off

[Cordar]

@thelittlemind You overlook that most of those species have survived previous ice ages and climate changes in the past and thus there is no way that they could not have survived another one. You have to note that the pleistocene mass extinction occurred AFTER Humans arrived at the American continent, not before. There have been many theories, but most of the evidence points towards Humans as the primary cause.

[thelittlemind]

@Cordar NOTHING points to the humans being the main cause only one of the causes... and if ur telling me this then from what i understand is that a mammoth died in arizona cause of human hunting and not from heat...

[Cordar]

@thelittlemind Overlooking the fact that the mass extinction of most of America's megafauna happened at the time after Humans arrived at the continent is pure idiocy. We are talking about animal species that have existed for up to several million years, that included many environmental changes. Only to suddenly die off merely because of increased heat? You gotta be joking.

[thelittlemind]

@Cordar right so when was the last time u seen a person wearing a winter coat during the summer? the animals were built for winter not heat sooo they would die from dehydration

[Cordar]

@thelittlemind Actually, according to later studies of the Mammoth's remains and pleistocene by paleontologists, there were very little indication they suffered from dehydration. A warmer climate having killed off the majority of America's megafauna are considered by scientists as extremely unlikely. Since never in other recorded warming up periods after previous ice ages have there been even remotely similar extinction events.

[thelittlemind]

@Cordar not to burst your bubble but theres no way u know that an animal died from dehydration especially from that time period

[Cordar]

@thelittlemind Tell that to the paleontologists, they studied the fossils quite thoroughly, particularly the growth rings in the Mammoth skeleton's tusks.

[thelittlemind]

@Cordar i understand that. but they dont have prrof that it did or didnt.... because they never had anything to compare it too.. u see my point

[Cordar]

@thelittlemind No, there's plenty of evidence. There were far more species living at that time than just Mammoths. Such enormous extinction events does not occur during warming periods. The introduction of new species into an ecosystem however can change it very drastically, and Humans was a new addition to the American ecology at the time, and they multiplied and spread across the continent very quickly.

[iamlink4]

"Keep going, keep going, keep going, and Stop. Stop! Rich stop.. jesus."

[2012nofaced]

The movie Avatar is evil. Because it killing the human race.

Making did story is just said in {ALL HUMAN MOTHER COULD SUCK BIG BULE BALLS.}

[Raptanax]

@2012nofaced I'm curious about what you mean by that. How is it killing the human race? In all effect, the Navi are human. Conflicts like this are what humanity has always been about, that's why it resonates so much with us. On both sides.

[702seed]

i loled at the part where hes like just figure out what the blue monkeys want lol

[inuyasha619995]

i wander if the guy that played Selfridge thought the characters personality was a douche bag xD

[gerarddepaula911]

best quote of selfridge: what the hell have you people been smoking out there there just trees

[petrus4]

"Look at all that cheddar!"

[genrolecaspe]

They wanted that planet for just a 20 million? Parker is kidding!...

[Squirrel2Kabab]

@genrolecaspe 20 million A KILO! ( 40 Million when refined)

[genrolecaspe]

@Squirrel2Kabab Yes what I am saying is that they just came to Pandora for money...

[Aussie50]

I'm an industrialist myself and I understand where Parker is coming from in the movie, I love to see progress, profit, technological advances, but dealing with natives must be done diplomatically. at least for a while.

Progress and Profit comes at a cost. thankfully in real life trees and native people do not have connections with another and we can continue to mine our most valuable resources like Copper and Uranium.

[Cordar]

@Aussie50 Actually, they tried diplomacy for a long time even before Jake arrived. The very true reason for the Avatar program was to ease relations with the Na'vi. The purpose of the Avatar drivers aside from research was to act as diplomats. The battles fought in the movie could had been avoided if said drivers did not neglect their duties so thoroughly.

[frusia123]

@Aussie50 maybe this film is trying to show progress & profit worshipers that in real life they often do not (want to) see the connection between resources, trees and people, but it does not mean there isn't any. this is what the movie is about: the cost of the profit. what do you think are all the wars on the earth about? they are all about profit at the cost of human's life, but in real life the guys like you come to the scene a bit later, when all the dirty job has been done and cleaned up

[Aussie50]

@frusia123 yeah I want nothing more than to come in after the "dirty work" is done, I'm only here to reap the spoils of human progress.

if the tree huggers want to get in the way, well, every war has a level of collateral damage.

[TheGamingHistory]

anyone else notice that Selfridge sounds like selfish?

[FlamingMonkey3000]

Is it just me or is 'Selfridge' supposed to subliminally read as 'selfish'

[iori55]

THEY'RE JUST GODDAMNED TREES

[MoonlightPrinces]

Selfridge = sounds like self, rich and ... fridge...

[Tazbev84]

I am soo sick of these so called "free" movie streaming sites.

THERE NOT FREE!!!!!

you have to fill out some damn survey to get to unlock the site where you have to subcribe to something for 20 bucks a month on your phone and when you do sign up you end up in a never ending cycle of so called "free" offers

DON'T DO IT PEOPLE, IT'S A SCAM!!!!!!!

[Deathcat09]

i no, that's why ppl should wait and buy the movie for the same price

[bassplaya1549]

"Did you see that"

"Yes, sir"

"No you didn't, you were looking at the monitor!" lol

[Xordka]

@bassplaya1549 J'adore ce passage ! ;)

[ivanovstas]

I made my teaserfor Avatar from official videos. I think you'll enjoy it if you see it. So check it)

[CryptWarrior69]

selfridge is awesome fuck pandora mine the shit outta it and move on to the next, power and money more important than that stupid planet and those blue monkeys

[Beamshipcaptain]

Your heart has been murdered. I feel very very bad for you.

[elgringoborracho]

he's phoebe's brother ffs

[phuditpuangmalai]

wat a fabulous name lol this name suites this character.

[MrSpitz99]

hello mr spammer. there IS no clip from 2:25-2:45 because the movie is only a minute and 28 seconds long. if you are going to post stupid comments, at least do a good job.

[machinevolution]

i hate the character he plays, but he does a really good job of doing it

[Santik4me]

i dont like him, He should have died in place of Grace and Trudy <3

[PotEnTiaL76]

Unlike Quaritch, this guy actually felt regret and remorse after his teammates blew up the hometree. He wanted to get a diplomatic solution. I think he's not truly evil; he's just ignorant like all the other capitalists out there.

[joacopela95]

that sounds to me that cameron in COMUNIST !

(just kidding)

[halowarrior1000]

Sounds like Selfish to me.

[BushcraftBloke]

Never have I agreed with so many comments on Youtube! A lot of people are saying they felt odd after watching this film. I too felt that, in fact I felt ashamed of what I had indirectly (through my consumerism) inflicted upon the earth, which was once a paradise so very much like Pandora. But we can change!

I still can't shake that feeling, this film has profoundly affected me. That's why I'm going again tomorrow evening :) No film I have seen in my entire life has ever been as great as this.

[dommsantos]

amen.

[FragRaptor]

Avatar is just awesome like that.

[baddmanaz]

$20 million in 2154 is about... oh 500 bucks our money,

[ryanice92]

he didnt say in U.S dollars it could be a new currency

[ExtraTerrestrials]

i doubt he was talking about $ :D

[tehren99]

Inflation. Ain't that a bitch.

[infiernosr]

THE BEST MOVIE IN THE HISTORYYYYYYYYY

[samopdrift]

Exactly what we did to other beautiful people: the Indians. The strong prey on the weak. The greedy take what is not theirs. For what?

[ivanovstas]

NA'VI are seem so real, that it's now a bit wierd that they don't really exist)

check my fan Avatar spot out, hope you like it

[Abazigal]

Selfridge was one of the most interesting characters of the film. Instead of being a sociopathic nutcase like Quaritch, he wasn't evil, just ignorant and stupid.

I hope the scene I hear was filmed from the scriptment of Selfridge and Quartich arguing at the end of the film, over Quaritch's plan to destroy the Tree of Souls (with Selfridge against it), makes it into the DVD release. That would really drive home the regret we got to see with Selfridge following his order to destroy Hometree.

[Leserschwert]

I like Avatar

[renshumainichi]

I loved to hate this guy! He played his role so well I was totally wrapped up in it emotionally.

[Galileo0601]

i really hated him too, but not as much as quaritch as this guy does somewhat show regret!!!.. bbut not all the way

[berettam92s]

what are you talking about! colonel Quaritch was awesome!

[joacopela95]

fucking A right!

[darklight436]

it was wierd how a big corporate man felt regretful after destroying the home tree, few days ago he didn't give two shet about them

[d00df00d]

The scientists had been basically whittling away at him for months by that point. He started feeling his regret gradually.

[RillyMonsterZero]

i liked going into the movie not knowing anything about the story

spoiled free

[ja0129]

Thats the kind of thing that happens to every guy who wants to complete something and too own it just too destroy it and then feel guilty for his act of cruelty.

[nikkiwhite40]

I hated that guy in the movie. That's the sign of a great villian and actor

[art11art12]

@nikkiwhite40 I think what the great part was, his greed fueled his desire to run them out no matter the cost, but once it was done he saw the horror that he committed and felt remorse.

[skinnynerd03]

this movie was amazing.

[UluvMyDarkness]

@daniellaphamdu

SHUTUP~!!!! STUPID USELESS SPAMMER FREAKS!!!!!! F OFF NO ONE WANTS YOU HERE AND NO ONES GONNA GO TOY OURE STUPID WEBSITE THAT DOESNT EVEN LET YOU WATCH THE MOVIE, BUT TELLS YOU TO TAKE A DAMN QUIZ AND ITS POINTLESS!! GET OFF THE NET!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[mary1998]

Buddy...you are insulting a bot. Just mark him as spam and keep going.

[hiilenaa]

@ketronbrainScah you don't have a soul. just SHUT THE FUCK UP and get off the net you nutless, soulless, brainless spammer.

fuck off

[CandyBlooded]

Selfridge is an asshole =P

[kokomal1]

no avatar 2 will not be good. 1st of all it will break the great thing which is telling you "think about your own home and what you doing to preserve it" and 2nd there will be no more thinking about the life of the na'vi after they won the battle which really makes you dream

[kokomal1]

but yes go to the cinema this movie deserves every single penny you will pay for the ticket to enter the cinema

[TheDracolga]

you know, if you want an Avatar 2, then go to the movie theater and help raise the money to make it :P

[OroadDrommare]

And you two can like shut up stop spamming and watch Avatar3D in the theaters =)

[sippantyu]

quaritch was the best! too bad he dies :(

[SEKCobra]

Seriously, I would think about getting on the Na'vi´s side when I would be there!

[Digitalfairy]

@SEKCobra

Tell it friend! No way I'd let some selfish greedy bullies destroy an amazing world and beings!

[Sellot91]

@Digitalfairy How would you stop them? I agree that is is awful, but how could we stop them?

[Digitalfairy]

@Sellot91

Do you mean flickwise or otherwise?

Cuz in the flick I sure would've done a lot of damage to the RDA's reputation: Rumors, true evidence posted on internet before they find out etc- make people hate the creeps if some morons can do it to average joes in actual life why cant we?

[frusia123]

@SEKCobra but the wonderful thing is that Na'vi are humans. everything about them, their life, their philosophy, everything is taken from human heritage. we just need to go to the sources which the movie makers have taken from. we ARE Na'vi, we just got lost in the corporate artificial disneyland

[shinobikid2]

Na'vi for the win! fuck the humans!

[iKrAbWoK]

dude all the comments i have read explain how i feel after watching this movie. i felt odd after watching it and i dont feel like myself and i also feel like shit cause i dont live on that planet man. i guess all i can do is agree and say that this was the best movie i ever seen if it made me and many other people feel that way 500/5

[ignorantpom]

@iKrAbWoK

Me too. And I'm guessing everyone fell for Naytiri, right? Right?

[AustralianFalcon]

@iKrAbWoK

The part that gets me, though, is that this movie was supposed to make us value our own planet and natural resources all the more. Instead, it makes people just want to up and abandon our little home in space in place of the much, much nicer (okay, at least much PRETTIER; the animals seem a bit meaner than normal) Pandora.

I can't point fingers, though; I'm one of said people. Dammit, haha ^_^

[moneyman10k]

there are ample jungles to die in on earth, you dont have to go to an imaginary planet if that is what you want

[caleb6285]

yea true but not for long were slowly killing everything thats beautiful here even thought not as beeautiful as pandora but still o well

[frusia123]

@iKrAbWoK our planet is just as wondreful. and we are like the Na'vi - deep in the heart, which is proven by how many people shares your feelings after watching the movie. the movie wakes up the part of us, which we have forgotten about. we can restore the connection with our planet if we choose, it's not too late yet

[Cordar]

@frusia123 All the so-called connection to nature stuff is nothing but new-age nonsense. There have never been such a thing.

[jakemanryan]

What part of the soundtrack is the song at the beginning of this video?

[Demystar]

It's called Akkadian empire, trailer music.

[SEKCobra]

I thought of it the hole day :<

I hope wathing it again will help :<

[fuckgodfuckyou]

The weirdest part of this film, is where you walk outta the cinema. Yesterday, i saw it at IMAX, and when i went home i felt really odd, sort of like i wasnt myself.

This is the best movie i have ever seen. Honestly, fantastic.

I need to watch it again!!!!

10*

[5M4N]

i agree

[ignorantpom]

@fuckgodfuckyou

I actually feel like that right now. that's relly weird.

I saw it earlier tonight btw (for the second time)

[Dagon123A]

@songluver2212

I said those EXACT words

This movie is far beyond what words can describe it, I've seen it twice, and I'm gonna see it again on Christmas

[brittjeuh13]

I saw this movie yesterday, and i'm going to see it again next friday :D

Best movie I've ever seen!

<3

[SEKCobra]

Gonna see it again on Saturday, and seriously, I cant get it out of my head, I wanna watch it 24/7

[alexalex9959]

@SEKCobra oh good, at least it's not just me

[muchlove59]

totally agree. Beautiful movie in every sens of the word

[shinobikid2]

@SEKCobra

I totally agree man. i agree with everyone actually XD

I'm gonna buy it on blu-ray first day it comes out

[NoodleMandann]

I've already seen in twice in the cinemas in 3D. It's by far my favorite movie ever!

[songluver2212]

i saw it a couple days of it. and now. it's officially my favorite movie of all time.

[ll0lliip0p]

me too !! I saw it yesterday xD

[laclavicie]

Even the golf scene looked awesome in Imax 3d

[Airs0ftluv3r]

I saw this movie today and its the best movie I have ever seen in my life! I was weird at the end of the movie going back to reality, it felt like I was actually there! I want to see it again!

[vivatdk65]

yeah everyone that watch this movie whant to watch again like 3 or 4 more times it is a masterpiece

[msoswaldo817]

great movie

his character is a jerk :D but he does a great job great actor

[Gigaganja]

...and I´m so happy how it ends

[tatianadoll]

This movie was the best I've ever seen yet.

[mircea93cj]

1.Avatar-incredible graphics and beautiful story

2.2012-good story and graphics

No Comment!!!

[animATEer]

2012 had a good story?

so does barney the dinosour

[BattleBrook]

best. movie. ever.

[TheSweetBitterness]

best movie

the 3d version is just....extraordinary

GRATE

[vivatdk65]

this is a masterpiece I mean the best movie ever

[UluvMyDarkness]

yeah, im pretty sure people are gonna be lining up outside the theatre door from the 18th to the 18th of 2010

no joke

[Hughezy]

Stephan Lange needs to be oscar nominated for this film, he was AMAZING. the greatest villain since Darth Vader.

[SEKCobra]

He wasnt just bad, he also gave them a hour/chances.

But he was a buisness man at all.

[tallblondnloud]

thats really hard to do cause there were some really badass villians

[fristaidfirst]

The movie was amazing!!!!!

[SevBacarra]

Avatar IS the movie of the decade.

[SEKCobra]

Movie of the century.

I cant get it out of my head a single minute since 3 days.

No joke.

[Zitronenschockolade]

@SEKCobra and i can't get it out of my head since november ^^

i've watched it three times since the 17th and would watch it much more often :D

[Gichnni]

@SEKCobra

Exactly like me! I've seen it 5+ times now, I'm addicted to this movie! To Pandora and Na'vi!

[TheNinerion]

wow 5 times!^^ I've been there 3 times now and its gonna be some more... Feel exactley the same! xD

best film I have ever seen!

[SEKCobra]

Hes played really well, but he doesnt get that important in the hole movie.