I knew it. I knew there was a reason that no video had come out of Tskhinvali showing anything like 2,000 dead civilians. According to the Wall Street Journal, the local hospital (used to store bodies because the morgue lost electricity in the fighting) contains 45 dead. Human Rights Watch puts the number at 44.
Oh yeah. I read that days ago. Not saying that Georgia is a saint in all of this, but Russia should stay away from what is in essence a civil war. It certainly had no right or call to enter Georgia proper and then stay there.
...Kosovo was Clinton's doing (Bush wasn't in power. I don't care if you don't like him, he's the president). If it was wrong then, it is wrong now. Georgia should be allowed to solve its own problems and Russia doesn't care about SO any more than it cares about "humanitarian" concerns (see chechnya). Why would they be bullying the Ukraine and Poland if it wasn't just one big power grab?
Why do people take the side of the Russians? The Russians lost all credibility when they started attacking Georgia proper. That has nothing to do with S.O.
Also, Putin should be consistent and let the separatist movement in Russia have its way, the Chechnians. Putin has Zero credibility.
Everyone who says that the US is hypocritical and that the Georgian government is a "puppet" of the US, should think the same of Russia and OS.
That's right! So is Cheney(I am ignoring Bush for obvious reasons) government should be consistent! They should be supportting So Ossetians along with Russians as they not that long ago supported Kosovos illegal albanian immigrants to took away from Serbia its historic land...
A quote from the Guardian for all the overly literal perople who have criticized my comparison of Putin to Stalin/Fascists:
"Zbigniew Brzezinski, who was the national security adviser under President Jimmy Carter from 1977 to 1981, and is now advising the Democratic candidate [Obama], said the Russian prime minister, Vladimir Putin, was 'following a course that is horrifyingly similar to that taken by Stalin and Hitler in the 1930s.'"
well maybe georgia shouldnt have bombed 1000+ civilion who want nothing to do with the georgian government. Russia came in to protect them, and started having fun so they bombed for an extra day or two after georgian military was crying in the corner pleading for the west to help them.
Sure, the Georgian attack on Tskhinvali was one of the points of escalation in this situation. But it's not like the Georgians weren't provoked by Ossetian separatists. And don't tell me Russia gave them passports. If Russia gives everybody on Guam passports, that doesn't make them Russians. South Ossetia is within the borders of the sovereign nation of Georgia. Yes, that means it's not appropriate for another country to invade that territory.
You say they were provoked by Ossetian separatists. Did those Ossetians take US tanks and weapons and brutally kill over 2000 Georgian civilians? Not so much. The Georgians massacred many women, children and old folks in Tskhinvali without a thought and you say that its okay? Get your head checked.
I already agree, as you can see from my last comment, that Georgia escalated the level of violence with their attack on Tskhinvali. Unfortunately, the only source of information on Tskhinvali has been the Russians. I don't consider a government that murders journlists, such as Anna Politkovskaya, to be an accurate source of information. So if and when a reporter from a news organization that I trust goes to Tskhinvali and sees hundreds of bodies in the morgue, then I'll believe it.
Russians are lying cock-sucking fags who say my country *Georgian troops* killed women and children *Hey Vladimir PuDICK plz grow a brain you faciest fuck* I hope someone assassinates your Russian ass!!!
Actually, you are the historically ignorant one. Fascicst =/ Hitler. Mussolini was the one who invented Fascism as a "middle way" between communism and democratic capitalism. It maintains political power over big business while still allowing for some free market, while maintaing a strong hand over the populous. China is a true fascist state (whatever they think) and fascism is actually very effective. Now, Hitler's "fascism" was combined with nationalism and was another animal all together.
OMG are you stupid?, it was an example dumbass, alot of people associate Fascism with hitlers nazi, and i use it as an example because more people would understand. MY GOD i hate dumb people.
ah, when people think of Hitler and the Nazis, they think of concentration camps and taking over countries, not economic systems. So no, people won't learn through that example. You didn't even say "the economic system used by Hitler' you just said "Hitler."
which is WHY saying fascism = Nazis is wrong because they're not the same. Seriously. So if you're going to educate someone on fascism, using that example is a poor one because Nazism is derived from facism but it is true facism. True facism was invented by Mussolini.
OMG!!! wrong or not, everytime people think fascism they THINK NAZIS!!!! so i used it as an example, my god can't you get it through your head? Now if you think about NAZIS then other things might come up to mind ( including fascism) but the point is when people THINK FASCISM they think NAZI, now Mussolinis Italy might be more of an "acurate" example of fascism but people tend to think less of them, because there role in history is small in comparison, so i used the nazis as an example.
...and you aid them in their ignorance. if they think that nazism is fascism, then they're wrong and it's a bad example. You just admitted it above. Thanks.
I knew it. I knew there was a reason that no video had come out of Tskhinvali showing anything like 2,000 dead civilians. According to the Wall Street Journal, the local hospital (used to store bodies because the morgue lost electricity in the fighting) contains 45 dead. Human Rights Watch puts the number at 44.
romeo9k 3 years ago
Oh yeah. I read that days ago. Not saying that Georgia is a saint in all of this, but Russia should stay away from what is in essence a civil war. It certainly had no right or call to enter Georgia proper and then stay there.
littl3x 3 years ago
good job Russia
MarkYwarak 3 years ago
...Kosovo was Clinton's doing (Bush wasn't in power. I don't care if you don't like him, he's the president). If it was wrong then, it is wrong now. Georgia should be allowed to solve its own problems and Russia doesn't care about SO any more than it cares about "humanitarian" concerns (see chechnya). Why would they be bullying the Ukraine and Poland if it wasn't just one big power grab?
littl3x 3 years ago
A shout out to littl3x for the most rational, best informed comments in this thread.
romeo9k 3 years ago
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Russians are Killers and barbarians and they proved it one more time.
oidipo1111 3 years ago
Thank to Russia ,aerial attacks were little to much though.
alfa8 3 years ago
Why do people take the side of the Russians? The Russians lost all credibility when they started attacking Georgia proper. That has nothing to do with S.O.
Also, Putin should be consistent and let the separatist movement in Russia have its way, the Chechnians. Putin has Zero credibility.
Everyone who says that the US is hypocritical and that the Georgian government is a "puppet" of the US, should think the same of Russia and OS.
littl3x 3 years ago
That's right! So is Cheney(I am ignoring Bush for obvious reasons) government should be consistent! They should be supportting So Ossetians along with Russians as they not that long ago supported Kosovos illegal albanian immigrants to took away from Serbia its historic land...
rusmexoso 3 years ago
Saakashvili is just a puppet of US neocons.
The Georgian operation in S.Ossetia has been planed by US and called "an empty field".
How you like it.
davyd780 3 years ago
A quote from the Guardian for all the overly literal perople who have criticized my comparison of Putin to Stalin/Fascists:
"Zbigniew Brzezinski, who was the national security adviser under President Jimmy Carter from 1977 to 1981, and is now advising the Democratic candidate [Obama], said the Russian prime minister, Vladimir Putin, was 'following a course that is horrifyingly similar to that taken by Stalin and Hitler in the 1930s.'"
romeo9k 3 years ago
well maybe georgia shouldnt have bombed 1000+ civilion who want nothing to do with the georgian government. Russia came in to protect them, and started having fun so they bombed for an extra day or two after georgian military was crying in the corner pleading for the west to help them.
boozehound420 3 years ago 4
Sure, the Georgian attack on Tskhinvali was one of the points of escalation in this situation. But it's not like the Georgians weren't provoked by Ossetian separatists. And don't tell me Russia gave them passports. If Russia gives everybody on Guam passports, that doesn't make them Russians. South Ossetia is within the borders of the sovereign nation of Georgia. Yes, that means it's not appropriate for another country to invade that territory.
romeo9k 3 years ago
You say they were provoked by Ossetian separatists. Did those Ossetians take US tanks and weapons and brutally kill over 2000 Georgian civilians? Not so much. The Georgians massacred many women, children and old folks in Tskhinvali without a thought and you say that its okay? Get your head checked.
secretkat 3 years ago
I already agree, as you can see from my last comment, that Georgia escalated the level of violence with their attack on Tskhinvali. Unfortunately, the only source of information on Tskhinvali has been the Russians. I don't consider a government that murders journlists, such as Anna Politkovskaya, to be an accurate source of information. So if and when a reporter from a news organization that I trust goes to Tskhinvali and sees hundreds of bodies in the morgue, then I'll believe it.
romeo9k 3 years ago
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Russians are lying cock-sucking fags who say my country *Georgian troops* killed women and children *Hey Vladimir PuDICK plz grow a brain you faciest fuck* I hope someone assassinates your Russian ass!!!
SainT132 3 years ago
WW3 HAS BEGUN
BLESSEDone333 3 years ago
It won't be WW3 with the USA...
AfricanAnime 3 years ago
Yes, these Georgian dermokrafts are fucking nazis.
saakas2 3 years ago 2
how can your say THEY ARE FASCISTS
formypeopleHH 3 years ago
its amazing how stupid people are.
You're referring to the Russians as fascist? lol thats really funny, i think you might be in need of more education.
I think you are confusing fascism with something entirely diffrent,
I mean all my life i've heard people call Russia a COMMUNIST state even after the fall of the great soviet union, but fascist? lol.
To end this comment im going to tell you what a fascist is.
Nazis( Hitler )<---Fascist and some might say another current country is one too.
RedPandemic 3 years ago
All Collectivists be they Commie or Fascist hate Sovereign Republic.
Xare420 3 years ago
Thats an opinion, a very assuming and clouded opinion, not a fact. To say they All hate sovereign states/republics is in one word Retarded.
RedPandemic 3 years ago 2
Actually, you are the historically ignorant one. Fascicst =/ Hitler. Mussolini was the one who invented Fascism as a "middle way" between communism and democratic capitalism. It maintains political power over big business while still allowing for some free market, while maintaing a strong hand over the populous. China is a true fascist state (whatever they think) and fascism is actually very effective. Now, Hitler's "fascism" was combined with nationalism and was another animal all together.
littl3x 3 years ago
OMG are you stupid?, it was an example dumbass, alot of people associate Fascism with hitlers nazi, and i use it as an example because more people would understand. MY GOD i hate dumb people.
RedPandemic 3 years ago
ah, when people think of Hitler and the Nazis, they think of concentration camps and taking over countries, not economic systems. So no, people won't learn through that example. You didn't even say "the economic system used by Hitler' you just said "Hitler."
littl3x 3 years ago
no.. when people think Hitler and or the Nazis they think of fascism, concentration camps, WW2 etc. so your wrong ..again
RedPandemic 3 years ago
which is WHY saying fascism = Nazis is wrong because they're not the same. Seriously. So if you're going to educate someone on fascism, using that example is a poor one because Nazism is derived from facism but it is true facism. True facism was invented by Mussolini.
littl3x 3 years ago
OMG!!! wrong or not, everytime people think fascism they THINK NAZIS!!!! so i used it as an example, my god can't you get it through your head? Now if you think about NAZIS then other things might come up to mind ( including fascism) but the point is when people THINK FASCISM they think NAZI, now Mussolinis Italy might be more of an "acurate" example of fascism but people tend to think less of them, because there role in history is small in comparison, so i used the nazis as an example.
RedPandemic 3 years ago
...and you aid them in their ignorance. if they think that nazism is fascism, then they're wrong and it's a bad example. You just admitted it above. Thanks.
littl3x 3 years ago