1. I assume by "real life", you mean that KO's via striking certain vulnerable areas on the body aren't legit. All I have to say to that is: attend a seminar and tell them that. They'll be happy to oblige you.
2. The art teaches how to set these techniques up in real fight scenarios. These demos are simply to show where on the body to hit and what happens when you do. These are also techniques usually employed to stop a fight from happening in the first place.
That "master" was not making contact at all with the people. The KO's I'm talking about are from hitting vital points on the human body. There is nothing mystical or secret about it, it's simple human anatomy.
@TheApatheticGuy i know but my point is that these underground out-of-the-ordinary fighting styles are illegitimate. i would much rather learn a proven effective fighting style such as BJJ, boxing, or muay thai.
While I agree that ordinary styles of fighting are more practical and even preferable in common situations, these techniques still have their place and there is value in learning them. These points and their capabilities are only one aspect of the entire art, one piece to the picture.
Guys it's a real knock out all right. But the problem is it won't work on someone who isn't brainwashed into believing it works. Just search "Kiai Master vs MMA" to see what i mean.
this could be true or fake, ill only believe it if he use it on me and i get KO's, but lets say its real, will i work on a moving target, i dont think it will be easy to hit a presure point on a moving target
@Likeaperv there are many ways to knock out somebody using any martial art you care to name, however, doing it all neat like that in a real fight isn't going to happen. a real knock out is sloppy, fists and feet flying. you don't even need a martial art to do it.
I have no experience with Kyushojutsu, but after studying biology and psychology in school. I can say with absolute certainty that it may not be a real knock out. But rather, an attack that goes through the collar bone and to the spine, and because it was above the shoulders (likely) would have temporarily paralized everything below, locking the nerve fibers and the person, loosing control of their limbs forcing them to collapse.
A novice and do this by hitting a person in the back with a bat!
I believe that knocking someone out using pp techniques is that easy. What I don't understand is why you do it so hard for training/demo? A 2% strike is enough to make the eyes flutter so you know it works.
@lalomime Thank You. People that know what they are talking about need to speak out against these instructors that try to pass off this quasi-mystical bullshit. It works on the people in their dojos because their students want it to. They are cooperating with the technique whether they are actually aware of it or not. next thing you know these instructors are going to start throwing hadoukens about right after they get their "Perfect Victory" over M. Bison
i hate fucking idiots like that. he knows what will happen when you slap on a point but he will just let him fall on the floor. why not have someone there to catch him??? fucking idiots like that are dangerous and should not be allowed to do martial arts
Wut makes them better? Because there on tv? Don't get ne wrong I live mma n have several champion fighters training at my gym but quit insulting traditional arts or comparinibg mma to it. Remember mma is really not who da best fighter is, it's bout who uses the rules to there advantage the best.
N traditonalarts arts have been around way longer n still layed the foundation for mma. The video ur refering to is a fraud who claims to ve able to ko ppl wout even touching them. there's a big difference. Chi is real. I really get tired of hearing ppl tryin to put mma fighters above traditional martial artists.
@james92802 this is possible i've felt it myself. Aswell as a fingertip ko. But as far as using it in mma probably not to pratical here's the thing nobody is tryin to compare it to mma. That's the problem w ppl these days. Mma is nothing new, it's just very commercial these days...
@kinggaryy this is the point of training, while other arts are learninghow to fight with fists, elbows and knees etc these guys are training to precisely strike their enemies and drop them with very little force.
@KillSwitch66627 You think that men willing to shorten there own lives with drugs would hesitate to use such methods in sport? If it worked, it would be as common, as a punch to the chin.
i asked you to show me an example, rather than try, you laugh like you are some kind of all knowing Jedi.
I have much more experience in this than you do, the religious side of Martial Arts is nothing more than another mind controlling religion that leads to self-delusion.
@James92802 you still completely miss my point, COMPLETELY. And not only that, you are a hypocrite (the video you suggested others watched in another comment). I'm beggining to think that from the type of langauge you are using, Jedi, Magic, religion is making this arguement pointless, you are living in a fanstasy world while another is trying to discuss something in real life....... when you get over star wars (or whatever tv show youre talking about) I will reply
Its simple and common, hypnosis - no different than a Las Vegas show that make hypnotized people act like chimps.
The difference is, these Martial Arts "experts" sell deception just like a evangelical faith healers. Its dangerous and immoral.
The fact is, no matter how much you believe - there are no magical powers emanating from anyones body. Its a very well documented sham. KillSwitch66627 you have simply been fooled.
how does one learn how to defend self in a small farm town in Kansas with no martial arts schools, but plenty of bars?? I guess just walk into the bar, and punch the first redneck he sees. He'll learn, right?? I'm the guy living in a small farm town in Kansas. Any suggestions???
Bet you get killed before you learn much -- not that I would be too upset that a guy willing to walk up to random people an punch them got himself killed.
The more you understand the consequences of violence the less you are willing to participate. Go find a church someplace you are in desperate need of some kind of philosophical education regarding action and reaction. Jesus had some wise words on this subject.
@James92802 I never learned much getting beat down, so I beleive the bar idea is very bad. When I grew up, I had an older brother that beat the shit out of me daily, so I could not concentrate on school as a result. This is why nowadays, I take self defense very seriously, although the lack of instructors, and martial arts schools are lacking here.
@TehNoobinShow -- can you tell me the kind of blow it takes to even bruise the carotid artery? Assuming normal health how about the force required to rupture or tear it?
How about how long you it takes to renter a person unconscious assuming you were able to hold someone and pinch it off 100%?
Does it appear in the video he is using such force?
The reason the man falls is the same reason hypnotist can get people to bark like dogs.
This Hypnotic skill does not translate to real life scenarios.
BULL SHIT!!! FUCKING BULL SHIT.i hate these fucks with their special chi punches,or pressure points! sure,there are pressure points,but that SHIT isn't it.ever see ANYONE do them in the cage? NOPE ---WHO?
Those guys are not standing there, letting you punch them wherever you feel like doing so. In addition those fight are meant for entertainment. Ever seen someone in a cage going for direct heavy breaking moves? After all, a defense is easly penetrated by breaking exposed joint. No? Sure not.
Actually, Willsworthy...hate the morons that actually buy into it more than the fraudulent masters. But I hate the BS mongers too! There are points that cause discomfort, when bashed! This "magic" is the worst for some gullible jerk who wants to improve his self defence. You said it best. BULL SHIT!
I call BS, he does a breakfall when he hits the ground...he leans before even being hit....
Jonste24 3 months ago
I'm going to try my hand at making a generic Youtube comment regarding pressure points/KOs in karate. Alright, here we go.
"This is pure 'Bullshido'. Try that in a real fight. Try this against an MMA fighter."
Whew. Think I need to sit down. My head is spinning from trying to conjure up that much ignorance.
TheApatheticGuy 5 months ago
@TheApatheticGuy lolol, its funny because this shit isn't real life nor can it be used in a real fight.
sk8r9871 5 months ago
@sk8r9871
1. I assume by "real life", you mean that KO's via striking certain vulnerable areas on the body aren't legit. All I have to say to that is: attend a seminar and tell them that. They'll be happy to oblige you.
2. The art teaches how to set these techniques up in real fight scenarios. These demos are simply to show where on the body to hit and what happens when you do. These are also techniques usually employed to stop a fight from happening in the first place.
TheApatheticGuy 5 months ago
@TheApatheticGuy if these KO's were real, they would be used by everyone. they are fake. please watch this video: /watch?v=gEDaCIDvj6I
sk8r9871 5 months ago
@sk8r9871
That "master" was not making contact at all with the people. The KO's I'm talking about are from hitting vital points on the human body. There is nothing mystical or secret about it, it's simple human anatomy.
TheApatheticGuy 5 months ago
@TheApatheticGuy i know but my point is that these underground out-of-the-ordinary fighting styles are illegitimate. i would much rather learn a proven effective fighting style such as BJJ, boxing, or muay thai.
sk8r9871 5 months ago
@sk8r9871
While I agree that ordinary styles of fighting are more practical and even preferable in common situations, these techniques still have their place and there is value in learning them. These points and their capabilities are only one aspect of the entire art, one piece to the picture.
TheApatheticGuy 5 months ago
@TheApatheticGuy everyone is entitled to their opinion, although i still am very skeptical of these types of arts
sk8r9871 5 months ago
How is this more effective than a kick to the balls?
gargamel6699 6 months ago
Guys it's a real knock out all right. But the problem is it won't work on someone who isn't brainwashed into believing it works. Just search "Kiai Master vs MMA" to see what i mean.
trabladorr 9 months ago 3
Yeah try this with a moving and trained how to block and punch back Target !
TheChefKev 9 months ago
oh yeah....strangle a guy after he's out
Invaderzim589 1 year ago
this could be true or fake, ill only believe it if he use it on me and i get KO's, but lets say its real, will i work on a moving target, i dont think it will be easy to hit a presure point on a moving target
TheRunescapePlayerz 1 year ago
@TheRunescapePlayerz what do you mean "moving"? this is just an example, there are many other ways to KO with kyusho jitsu.
Likeaperv 1 year ago
@Likeaperv there are many ways to knock out somebody using any martial art you care to name, however, doing it all neat like that in a real fight isn't going to happen. a real knock out is sloppy, fists and feet flying. you don't even need a martial art to do it.
luderudecrude 1 year ago
@luderudecrude Thats why we train.
Likeaperv 1 year ago
I have no experience with Kyushojutsu, but after studying biology and psychology in school. I can say with absolute certainty that it may not be a real knock out. But rather, an attack that goes through the collar bone and to the spine, and because it was above the shoulders (likely) would have temporarily paralized everything below, locking the nerve fibers and the person, loosing control of their limbs forcing them to collapse.
A novice and do this by hitting a person in the back with a bat!
furyberserk 1 year ago
I believe that knocking someone out using pp techniques is that easy. What I don't understand is why you do it so hard for training/demo? A 2% strike is enough to make the eyes flutter so you know it works.
jl5000 1 year ago
this is bullshit
Kanazawa88 1 year ago
u guys r a bunch of actors, why r u guys doing this??? Ripping peoples money making them believe they can defended with that crap in the streets..
lalomime 1 year ago
@lalomime Thank You. People that know what they are talking about need to speak out against these instructors that try to pass off this quasi-mystical bullshit. It works on the people in their dojos because their students want it to. They are cooperating with the technique whether they are actually aware of it or not. next thing you know these instructors are going to start throwing hadoukens about right after they get their "Perfect Victory" over M. Bison
luderudecrude 1 year ago 2
i hate fucking idiots like that. he knows what will happen when you slap on a point but he will just let him fall on the floor. why not have someone there to catch him??? fucking idiots like that are dangerous and should not be allowed to do martial arts
gaggotgaggot 1 year ago
@gaggotgaggot americans, if I can see correctly
KillSwitch66627 1 year ago
Wut makes them better? Because there on tv? Don't get ne wrong I live mma n have several champion fighters training at my gym but quit insulting traditional arts or comparinibg mma to it. Remember mma is really not who da best fighter is, it's bout who uses the rules to there advantage the best.
clinganc 1 year ago
N traditonalarts arts have been around way longer n still layed the foundation for mma. The video ur refering to is a fraud who claims to ve able to ko ppl wout even touching them. there's a big difference. Chi is real. I really get tired of hearing ppl tryin to put mma fighters above traditional martial artists.
clinganc 1 year ago
@james92802 this is possible i've felt it myself. Aswell as a fingertip ko. But as far as using it in mma probably not to pratical here's the thing nobody is tryin to compare it to mma. That's the problem w ppl these days. Mma is nothing new, it's just very commercial these days...
clinganc 1 year ago
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@clinganc show me one fight - actual sporting event where anyone uses anything like this....
You can't. because it does not work -- it's hypnosis plain and simple.
If this worked you would be seeing Olympic wrestlers doing it all day.
James92802 1 year ago
this was a fast knockout alright...considering u hit a steady target... try this with a moving target
kinggaryy 2 years ago 5
@kinggaryy this is the point of training, while other arts are learninghow to fight with fists, elbows and knees etc these guys are training to precisely strike their enemies and drop them with very little force.
KillSwitch66627 1 year ago
This is the kind of crap that old fat haz beens result to when they can't attract normal students any longer.
Of course he (or any of his students) could make me eat my words by using this "technique" in a MMA fight.
I bet he has some kind of excuse for why a MMA demonstration would not be a good idea.
Want to see why its not a good idea? /watch?v=gEDaCIDvj6I&feature=related
James92802 2 years ago
@James92802 um, the video you said to look at is a has been, a has been that can magically move people with their fingers.
Look at 0:25
KillSwitch66627 1 year ago
@KillSwitch66627: show me one fight - actual sporting event where anyone uses anything like this....
You can't. because it does not work -- it's hypnosis plain and simple.
If this worked you would be seeing Olympic wrestlers doing it all day.
James92802 1 year ago
@James92802 sporting...... lol
KillSwitch66627 1 year ago
@KillSwitch66627 You think that men willing to shorten there own lives with drugs would hesitate to use such methods in sport? If it worked, it would be as common, as a punch to the chin.
i asked you to show me an example, rather than try, you laugh like you are some kind of all knowing Jedi.
I have much more experience in this than you do, the religious side of Martial Arts is nothing more than another mind controlling religion that leads to self-delusion.
There is no magic, beyond training.
James92802 1 year ago
@James92802 you still completely miss my point, COMPLETELY. And not only that, you are a hypocrite (the video you suggested others watched in another comment). I'm beggining to think that from the type of langauge you are using, Jedi, Magic, religion is making this arguement pointless, you are living in a fanstasy world while another is trying to discuss something in real life....... when you get over star wars (or whatever tv show youre talking about) I will reply
KillSwitch66627 1 year ago
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@KillSwitch66627 no he can't magically do anything.
Its simple and common, hypnosis - no different than a Las Vegas show that make hypnotized people act like chimps.
The difference is, these Martial Arts "experts" sell deception just like a evangelical faith healers. Its dangerous and immoral.
The fact is, no matter how much you believe - there are no magical powers emanating from anyones body. Its a very well documented sham. KillSwitch66627 you have simply been fooled.
James92802 1 year ago
how does one learn how to defend self in a small farm town in Kansas with no martial arts schools, but plenty of bars?? I guess just walk into the bar, and punch the first redneck he sees. He'll learn, right?? I'm the guy living in a small farm town in Kansas. Any suggestions???
randyclar747 2 years ago
yes
nooblikeme 2 years ago
@randyclar747 LMAO --
Bet you get killed before you learn much -- not that I would be too upset that a guy willing to walk up to random people an punch them got himself killed.
The more you understand the consequences of violence the less you are willing to participate. Go find a church someplace you are in desperate need of some kind of philosophical education regarding action and reaction. Jesus had some wise words on this subject.
James92802 1 year ago
@James92802 I never learned much getting beat down, so I beleive the bar idea is very bad. When I grew up, I had an older brother that beat the shit out of me daily, so I could not concentrate on school as a result. This is why nowadays, I take self defense very seriously, although the lack of instructors, and martial arts schools are lacking here.
randyclar747 1 year ago
Grab the throat! Hit the throat! I'm 10 years old. I'm gonna try it out on my little sister right now! Bye!!
Taveren22 3 years ago
HAAAAAAAAAAAAA !
therestlesstwilight 2 years ago
@Taveren22 LOL did your sister beat the living crap out of you?
James92802 1 year ago
bull shit!
Fake!
balela!
pega-otários!
SURUBACO 3 years ago
it's not fake, hitting a vital artery can kill you not just knock you out.
TehNoobinShow 3 years ago 4
@TehNoobinShow -- can you tell me the kind of blow it takes to even bruise the carotid artery? Assuming normal health how about the force required to rupture or tear it?
How about how long you it takes to renter a person unconscious assuming you were able to hold someone and pinch it off 100%?
Does it appear in the video he is using such force?
The reason the man falls is the same reason hypnotist can get people to bark like dogs.
This Hypnotic skill does not translate to real life scenarios.
James92802 1 year ago
@TehNoobinShow WOW
MASKONESTER 2 months ago
BULL SHIT!!! FUCKING BULL SHIT.i hate these fucks with their special chi punches,or pressure points! sure,there are pressure points,but that SHIT isn't it.ever see ANYONE do them in the cage? NOPE ---WHO?
willsworthy 3 years ago
Those guys are not standing there, letting you punch them wherever you feel like doing so. In addition those fight are meant for entertainment. Ever seen someone in a cage going for direct heavy breaking moves? After all, a defense is easly penetrated by breaking exposed joint. No? Sure not.
TheWinterNights 3 years ago
you worried there gunna learn
hendrixpornlol 3 years ago
Actually, Willsworthy...hate the morons that actually buy into it more than the fraudulent masters. But I hate the BS mongers too! There are points that cause discomfort, when bashed! This "magic" is the worst for some gullible jerk who wants to improve his self defence. You said it best. BULL SHIT!
imitchellgill 3 years ago
Well Kyusho Jitsu is translated into "One Second Fighting:
xXGaaraoftheFunkXx 3 years ago
very nice!!
Oxomoron 4 years ago