@DrNippleHair well there are street legal versions (not made by porsche themselves) of the successor 962 which is not to different from the 956, but that does not really count its still not the same car
you guys realize this is not a street legal car haha. No shit its faster than any other production car you can throw at it. A zr1 is fucking fast and for the money nothing compares. But this is just another league of racing, its lightweight body strapped to an engine, no ac, no airbags, no traction control, nothing besides tires, brake, engine, suspension, frame, and engine.
amazing. he tried to narrate this thing but he just simply couldn't keep up "very tricky little bit in here -- oh wait... he just fucking nailed it -- oh dear... it's a record." well done mr. bell.
the ZR1 doesnt even go sub 7 please check ur fact b4 u say stuff..........because u will look like a jack wagon. group c was the best competition wise. i want the lmp1 of 2day to have variety like this........and porsche will win overall when its lmp1 comes out
I like the fact that people think that a production car can beat this yet even the Zonda R can't beat this or at least it hasn't yet and it is one of the greatest machines on earth
@velkoto1 "That guy" is Derek Bell, who amongst his other achievements in motor racing won 5 times at Le Mans, and was probably the best works driver Porsche ever had - him and Walter Rohrl, look the latter up if you are as ignorant as I suspect you may be. I'd go round the 'ring with either of them, let 'em talk all the way, it would be an honour. Respect to LukeLamping who also know their stuff.
Its also amazing to see how much the trees surrounding the track have grown, I suppose this was nearly 30 years ago. There are so many open areas here whereas now the track is basically a tunnel through the trees
Its amazing to think that this car (well its sister car) did 6:11 round this track and that Pagani Zonda R did a 6:47. 30 s slower round the ring than a Group C 956 is pretty damn good. BUT you have to remember that the track has changed, not in the layout (its more or less the same here as it is now) but it was very very bumpy back then which made it harder/impossible to take some of the corners as fast as you can now.
eines habe ich mir geschworen und zwar das mein erstes auto ein porsche sein wird... ich bin jetzt 24 und ich habe meinen führerschein seitdem ich 18 bin und noch immer spare ich auf meinen gt3 rs und irgendwann habe ich ihn ...denn ich weiß das jeder der seinen willen hartnäckig verfolgt,,, wird auch zum erfolg kommen...!!!!
@gpfwestie hey, you know what, if you set them off at the same moment, by the time the zr1 gets to Anfahrt Schwalbenschwanz turn, the 956 will be starting its next lap. more then a minute ahead of that zr1...
This track record will never be broken by any car until they revive the competitions and races that motivates people to push the limits and break records.
These older things had softer suspension than newer cars, and I'm aware that the Nurburgring is a bit more unforgiving than a lot of tracks terrain wise.
Just a hunch, but could this be why the Zonda R didn't break this record?
@hurrhurrbtard No but this car has got more power, more torque, less weight and most of all, a huge amount of downforce!!!! much much more than the Zonda
@Kheops63 i dunno, the R beat this time..... so that the porsche did .41, but can do .25 on a good day, and the R is at .47- i guess 8 or 9 of 10 might go to the porsche anyway, but i think they're in the same league. the porsche weighs less? really?
@clamlapperable They are not in the same league by miles. The Porsche did 6.11 with Bellof at the wheel in a time when the road surface of the Nurburgring was in a very poor condition and when the technical possibilities where very limited compared to today. Also touring cars like Uwe Alzens Porsche 911 Turbo (the Turbinchen) come very close to the 6.47 set by the Zonda and they actually have to follow rules in terms of weight and power. The Zondas time is impressive but not that much.
Pena que atualmente a filosofia do "safe car drive" impede em parte as montadoras criarem monstros como este para esmigalhar tempos em templos da velocidade, como Nurburgring...
when mankind is gone and aliens or some new form of intelligent life discover the 'ring, they too will wonder how anyone in this dimension did a 6:11 lap.
One must have their stuff screwed on really tight to drive a 956 at full tilt. Bellof made the 956 and the infamous 'ring his collective bitches that famous day.
BMW has theorized that their modern F1 cars could tackle the ring in under 6 minutes. I personally think such a vehicle would be destroyed in the attempt given the unforgiving surfaces of the Nordschleife circuit. The old Group-C cars are crazy fast (even by today's standards) and much more suited to this track. I think the 6:11 record will stand for a long time to come.
BMW knows that, their engines from 200-2005 was the most powerful naturally aspirated in F1. These years of F1 are one of the fastest NA engines ever made.
BAR Honda and BMW had most powerful engines., both producing more than 1000bhp at training. I believe that these bolids are able set time lower than 6 minutes. >>''I personally think such a vehicle would be destroyed in the attempt given the unforgiving surfaces'' << Me too....
Okay, I don't imagine he was talking while driving, but that is still awesomely quick. Too bad about Bellof; from what I've read, apart from being a sportscar legend (with a still unbeaten Nurburgring time), he could, with the right equipment, have been the first German F1 champ.
Yeah. I like the way he always seemed casual about it - much like on this video - "You've just completed a lap of the nurburgring in six minutes and forty one seconds" as if his gran could do that in her fiesta.
And in Forza 3 if you crash you don't risk dying or seriously damaging the car or yourself
not to mention it's a good deal more comfortable sitting at home in a sofa, than actually feeling the g forces in the car and the insane braking forces
@esotoracing You have no idea. Derek Bell is one of the all-time greatest drivers. The 956 has held this record for nearly 28 years, and only now are Zondas etc. getting close. The 6 minute barrier is unlikely to ever be broken because you would need to average 170mph. So, can't wait for that!
In the mean time, please have some more respect for Derek Bell, Jacky Ickx, Stefan Bellof, Niki Lauda, etc.
170mph is not even possible in dreams. When was Bellof drive 6:11, his average speed is 202,15 km/h, so this is more like 125mph. Average speed of 202 km/h is more scarier than 350 km/h in top speed. Average Formula 1 bolid is able broke down 6 minutes, but need very high average speed of 58 m/s or 209 km/h. Actually you need 210 km/h to do 5:59.
@BansheeRiderNL but this car is not a ZR1, it is not a real world car, it is a race car. and that depends what you mean by rape, lets crash both cars and see who survives
@devil7995 Actually I'd put money on race cars being safer, with their rollcages and whatnot. They're designed to protect the driver in high speed (think 150mph) crashes.
The Porsche 956 was running 195 MPH three times during the lap, The Vette was at its best, 20 MPH slower. On this lap, this Porsche is 45 seconds faster than the vette, Stephen Belloff in the same car is a minute 15 seconds faster. When the Vette made it on to the big straightaway, the Porsche had already cross the start finish line.
@slungbungdungclung You have taken moron to an WHOLE new fucking level; seriously astronomically stupid. You amaze me. Congratulations. Never comment on youtube again. Ever...Fail.
back then, an in-car camera weighed as much as half an adult and was a real disadvantage - a lot in a very light car and also didn't help the handling
Was ist die Zeit von Lauda im Training 1975 (6.58.6) eigentlich im Vergleich zu Bellofs Zeit 6.11 wert? Lauda fuhr auf dem längeren Kurs damals über 22 km lang. Das kostete doch mind. 40 Sekunden Zeit. Somit währen das die beiden schnellsten je gefahrenen Zeiten an der Nordschleife.
Das einzig Vergleichbare wäre aufgrund der geänderten Strecke die gefahrene Durchschnitttsgeschwindigkeit. Bellof war der einzige, der eine Nordschleifenrunde mit einer Geschwindigkeit fuhr, die in Schnitt über 200km/h lag.
Sure...., the car's doing the driving. Dumbass. From someone thats done 150/170 mph on a bike/car respectively and been goin' fast since the 80's, you can take nothing from these guys. They've got gigantic balls and are more of a man than you or I will ever be.
it is a shame that Bellofs record lap was not completely filmed onboard just like this lap.He was the best in the Porsche 956 just like Gerhard Berger in the BMW 635CSI
It is funny to see the change in foliage from this video to what it looks like now. Some trees are gone in the second half, but most of the first half in this vid is totally different looking in terms of tree cover.
your not wrong...mindblowing...whats impressive,is the time that been set by the radical sr8,and theirs more to come they have been said,and then theres also the caparo t1 tp go round..wonder if the can be as quick?
what made me laugh,was when jackie icks went past,and to think bellof did some thing like a 6.15...if you have ever heard bell or ickz speak about him,they did'nt doubt that at some point he'd meet his end,..as he was mental..shame..as it makes you realise how large the gulf is between them and us..and i rate myself as a driver...done the ring more than once,and to put it into perspective,you dont have time to look at the country side your concentrating so much..
Like thatsbollox said. Weight aboard. Film cameras of the early 80's were big and heavy and it must have made the car's center of gravity higher. Derek Bell is a legend.
In those times the drivers were ....pro's....No traction control at all or ABS etc. If you crash in those times at le mans and others, you just died, that were the real mans. Who got the real balls. Respect.
The trouble with simulators, is that you get no feedback through the 'seat of your pants!' I can - and have - driven a race kart fast, but a simulator....I'm dangerous! LOL
i cant believe this was done by a human! on gt4 its nearly impossible to stay on the track near the straight because the bumps will fling you off and then add the g forces and the fact that youll actually die its unbelievable!
Magnificent driving by a legend in one of the greatest race machines in history.
Smooth as a babies bum without pushing too hard. Would have been nice if they kept more engine note for the vid but one of the greatest in car vids i've seen.
Lot of practice laps to get the balls up to hold pace for those blind ones. Phenomenal driving...6-1/2 min lap with weight onboard and not pushing.
this may sound a bit lame but i use this vid alongside a lap of the ring with my forza on the xbox,its a proper rush with Dereks commentary,but i manage to do a 6.43 with my wheel on it,but in real life i would defo brown them!!!!
it only sounds lame because you don't own a proper car to race on the real track. you poor bastard. $300 xbox 360, $50 game, $50 internet connection. Priceless.
wtf???im 34 and i drive a strada abarth 130 tc,if i didnt have 2 kids maybe i would consider going there!!!but what is lame is you coming on here on making a comment like that to me,you need to get a life ya lame prik!
Thank you very much. These ignorants. These Porsches were so unbelievably fast. Bell is a very cool lad. But the best and fastest of all was - Stefan Bellof!
Yes but stefan was also a little cocky like Jackie Ickx, and thats why they didnt mix well. It is a shame we lost him, caue he was the next up and coming star.
Dear wavefrontbum (dude!) You moron it's Derek Bell who won Le Mans 3 times and he hits 195 MILES PER HOUR on the main straight you poor dickhead. The only stupid one on this page is you. Dude.
And csampan1 Yes Stefan Bellof did do a lap in 6.11 the year before he was killed at Spa over twenty years ago. I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong. Look up Bellof accident at Spa and check it out for yourself.
As the others have pointed out that was Derek Bell, the driver of the car. That lap he did was a 6 min lap for 13 miles. He has no reason to lie, and if you check the Ring site it can confirm the speeds for you.
956 only got upto 230mph at Le Mans, the 962 did 240mph. IIRC only one car has topped 250mph at Le Mans, and that was because they sealed the cooling ducts to be more aerodynamic down the straight.
The 956 holds the record around the Nurburgring with Stefan Bellof in 6:11 and a modern F1 car could theoretically beat the 6 minute mark as shown by BMW and Nick Heidfeld.
Oh? There's a vid saying 'Porsche 956 does 400km/h at Le Mans' on Youtube somewhere. It certainly looks blindingly, mentally fast!
So, in theory, this car isn't THAT much slower than an f1 car? What I don't get is how an F1 car can be so much quicker, when it's not as aerodynamic as a closer wheel car?
F1 cars are much slower than Group C/LMP cars in straight lines. A Group C/LMP car can get to 240MPH. A Formula car will struggle to get to 230 MPH (most only do 220MPH).
@Atheismrulez f1 car slower in term of the top speed because of the drag, in term of acceleration i dont think any race car could challenge f1 car, only dragsters could..
Why is it that Ferrari's 599 designed specifically for the Nurburgring was nowhere near as fast as this, yet this is just an old Porsche?
HFLanciaStratos 3 weeks ago
6:41 seconds in this vid...it should be in the description.
burlbark 4 weeks ago
@DrNippleHair well there are street legal versions (not made by porsche themselves) of the successor 962 which is not to different from the 956, but that does not really count its still not the same car
ZuhlJin 1 month ago
@DrNippleHair Of course not!
ITAlife98 1 month ago
It's a real pleasure to listen to Derek Bell's commentary...
futuretiger 3 months ago
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If you forget just one corner you will die
TopT432 4 months ago
you guys realize this is not a street legal car haha. No shit its faster than any other production car you can throw at it. A zr1 is fucking fast and for the money nothing compares. But this is just another league of racing, its lightweight body strapped to an engine, no ac, no airbags, no traction control, nothing besides tires, brake, engine, suspension, frame, and engine.
JohnDPearson90 4 months ago
@JohnDPearson90 whoops i said engine three times haha
JohnDPearson90 4 months ago
I wonder? who was that idiot who even brought up that ZR1.
Destronus 4 months ago
amazing. he tried to narrate this thing but he just simply couldn't keep up "very tricky little bit in here -- oh wait... he just fucking nailed it -- oh dear... it's a record." well done mr. bell.
trippyay 5 months ago
the ZR1 doesnt even go sub 7 please check ur fact b4 u say stuff..........because u will look like a jack wagon. group c was the best competition wise. i want the lmp1 of 2day to have variety like this........and porsche will win overall when its lmp1 comes out
DrJCCC20 5 months ago
To me, it's not even a car.
RaskVousSalue 5 months ago
WTF? no comparisance with zr1! that's a car that americans will ever dream!
ProGamingZon3 5 months ago
I like the fact that people think that a production car can beat this yet even the Zonda R can't beat this or at least it hasn't yet and it is one of the greatest machines on earth
jimmyhayers 6 months ago
that "guy" is derek bell,one of porsche´s best works driver
LukeLamping 6 months ago
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM . . . . ok no problem just derek bell going twice as fast.
Oo
Dataacid 6 months ago
I can feel the speed . . .
Dataacid 6 months ago
I wish that guy just shut the fuck up and let us watch and LISTEN to that brilliant engine !!!!
P.S.: the guy who said the ZR1 is faster than this Porsche is a fucking retard.
velkoto1 7 months ago 2
@velkoto1 "That guy" is Derek Bell, who amongst his other achievements in motor racing won 5 times at Le Mans, and was probably the best works driver Porsche ever had - him and Walter Rohrl, look the latter up if you are as ignorant as I suspect you may be. I'd go round the 'ring with either of them, let 'em talk all the way, it would be an honour. Respect to LukeLamping who also know their stuff.
Axpoet 6 months ago 2
Starting @2:36 lol,it's like that
miroslav1o1 7 months ago
People that think a production car is quicker than this obviously have NFI (No Fucking Idea)
PsychoLegoMan 7 months ago
Jesus the person that said a zr1 could take that made me laugh! What a clown he obviously has no clue :-)
I wish we could see Stephen Bellof's 6:11 in that car!
Must've been amazing!
YBFocus 8 months ago 2
The trees have grown
miroslav1o1 8 months ago 10
This car is something incredible.
Impressive from first part of the video...look how this thing can change his direction in the middle-slow turns. Amazing.
Bell raced in this video only for sponsors and Tv. Believe me...he's going fast...but
Ickx was a lot faster (qual lap for him).
That was the "World Sportscar Championship". Scary, spectacular and fascinating.
LuManiaK 8 months ago 2
Its also amazing to see how much the trees surrounding the track have grown, I suppose this was nearly 30 years ago. There are so many open areas here whereas now the track is basically a tunnel through the trees
shazmeister2005 9 months ago
Its amazing to think that this car (well its sister car) did 6:11 round this track and that Pagani Zonda R did a 6:47. 30 s slower round the ring than a Group C 956 is pretty damn good. BUT you have to remember that the track has changed, not in the layout (its more or less the same here as it is now) but it was very very bumpy back then which made it harder/impossible to take some of the corners as fast as you can now.
shazmeister2005 9 months ago
This is the best car, EVER!!!!
BlasterRod 9 months ago
Amazing that the Zonda R has managed a 9:47 and this is 9:41 and not at qualifying speed... Top driving in such a classic car.
andyc280081973 10 months ago
eines habe ich mir geschworen und zwar das mein erstes auto ein porsche sein wird... ich bin jetzt 24 und ich habe meinen führerschein seitdem ich 18 bin und noch immer spare ich auf meinen gt3 rs und irgendwann habe ich ihn ...denn ich weiß das jeder der seinen willen hartnäckig verfolgt,,, wird auch zum erfolg kommen...!!!!
dRaHtZ1eHeR 10 months ago
Porsche 956 1975 (34 years old) was restricted on fuel consumption, so had to elect for the following :-
3.2 Litre Engine engine (750Bhp)
Weight 800Kg (1,764 lb)
Zr1 is not competing in a race series and can therefore chose any spec it thinks might win. Specs are
6.2L V8 Engine (638Bhp)
Weight 5500Kg - (kin hell)
There will be many seconds different on a lap between these two cars.
gpfwestie 10 months ago
@gpfwestie 5500 kg, the ZR1?? ROFL, now it is a truck? A Silverado?
What an idiot you are, to put that data as a fact when is totally wrong....
ZR1 is only 1519Kp you fucking monkey, one of the most light weight super cars out there, and one of the most powerful.
Yet it cannot surpass a racing car such as the 956, it is not meant to do that...
Google your date before you post senless shit.
LilProveInn 10 months ago
@LilProveInn I meant 1500kg it was a typo. That is heavy. My own car weighs 900 kg including a cage
gpfwestie 10 months ago
@gpfwestie 1519Kg*
LilProveInn 10 months ago
@gpfwestie hey, you know what, if you set them off at the same moment, by the time the zr1 gets to Anfahrt Schwalbenschwanz turn, the 956 will be starting its next lap. more then a minute ahead of that zr1...
Dymundback 7 months ago
This track record will never be broken by any car until they revive the competitions and races that motivates people to push the limits and break records.
L02T 11 months ago
I wish the guy would shut up!
zedextreme8177 11 months ago
That was awesome! Thanks for posting!
congealedmeat 1 year ago
absolutely awesome! I wish there was a Record-Lap of Bellof in HD-Quality
BaSiC47 1 year ago
@XGAMER94 ofcourse this is one of the most difficult tracks on this world.
mgammeren 1 year ago
this guy driving and talking derek bell has driven my dads porsche gt3 round good wood =] no joke
danish381 1 year ago
@danish381 I think his narration was dubbed latter but he was quick.
bradgotch 1 year ago
2:37 "Now just look at that view"...
Er, that's probably a bad idea.
lethalsub 1 year ago
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just awesome! can't stop watching this video :-)
to all fans of that car: more about the 962 (and 956).....w.w.w. dauer962.de
FlyingSchwabe 1 year ago
You lose it here, and you're in a world of hurt.
Tagemandbagem 1 year ago 2
ZR1 lap is soo slow even compared to other production cars
TheMrDiddlez 1 year ago
These older things had softer suspension than newer cars, and I'm aware that the Nurburgring is a bit more unforgiving than a lot of tracks terrain wise.
Just a hunch, but could this be why the Zonda R didn't break this record?
hurrhurrbtard 1 year ago
@hurrhurrbtard
The Zonda is a road race car. This thing is a pure race car. Better aerodynamics (just look at the shape), more power, less weight. No contest.
TheMrDiddlez 1 year ago
@hurrhurrbtard I do think so. And I think the Asphalt has changed a lot.
Spiiidfr3aK 1 year ago
@hurrhurrbtard No but this car has got more power, more torque, less weight and most of all, a huge amount of downforce!!!! much much more than the Zonda
Kheops63 11 months ago
@Kheops63 i dunno, the R beat this time..... so that the porsche did .41, but can do .25 on a good day, and the R is at .47- i guess 8 or 9 of 10 might go to the porsche anyway, but i think they're in the same league. the porsche weighs less? really?
clamlapperable 11 months ago
@clamlapperable They are not in the same league by miles. The Porsche did 6.11 with Bellof at the wheel in a time when the road surface of the Nurburgring was in a very poor condition and when the technical possibilities where very limited compared to today. Also touring cars like Uwe Alzens Porsche 911 Turbo (the Turbinchen) come very close to the 6.47 set by the Zonda and they actually have to follow rules in terms of weight and power. The Zondas time is impressive but not that much.
DarthGoofy 10 months ago
Meu Deus... fantástico.
Pena que atualmente a filosofia do "safe car drive" impede em parte as montadoras criarem monstros como este para esmigalhar tempos em templos da velocidade, como Nurburgring...
WeisserSb 1 year ago
ive got this as a model car
horill123 1 year ago
my god it goes so fast!
whiteynator 1 year ago
I just wonder what could a 956 do in the Le Mans series against the P1 cars today? They wouldn't have a chance... :) Am I right?
majom89 1 year ago
when mankind is gone and aliens or some new form of intelligent life discover the 'ring, they too will wonder how anyone in this dimension did a 6:11 lap.
lvferraripilot 1 year ago 16
One must have their stuff screwed on really tight to drive a 956 at full tilt. Bellof made the 956 and the infamous 'ring his collective bitches that famous day.
lvferraripilot 1 year ago
BMW has theorized that their modern F1 cars could tackle the ring in under 6 minutes. I personally think such a vehicle would be destroyed in the attempt given the unforgiving surfaces of the Nordschleife circuit. The old Group-C cars are crazy fast (even by today's standards) and much more suited to this track. I think the 6:11 record will stand for a long time to come.
DucknCoverin 1 year ago 2
@DucknCoverin
BMW knows that, their engines from 200-2005 was the most powerful naturally aspirated in F1. These years of F1 are one of the fastest NA engines ever made.
BAR Honda and BMW had most powerful engines., both producing more than 1000bhp at training. I believe that these bolids are able set time lower than 6 minutes. >>''I personally think such a vehicle would be destroyed in the attempt given the unforgiving surfaces'' << Me too....
2jzgtejza80 1 year ago
Only Zonda R get a bit closer to the all-time 956 record of 6:11.
Ilovetypography 1 year ago
Okay, I don't imagine he was talking while driving, but that is still awesomely quick. Too bad about Bellof; from what I've read, apart from being a sportscar legend (with a still unbeaten Nurburgring time), he could, with the right equipment, have been the first German F1 champ.
apeltala 1 year ago
@apeltala If Stefan Bellof could have been the greatest race driver ever.
MujaRagHeadKillaUK 1 year ago
@apeltala Its obviously a 'voice over' . Buggered if I'd have taken time out to chat at those speeds! lol
Factnotfictionpeople 1 year ago
OMG is he speaking while driving? amazing!
sirtristan01 1 year ago
@sirtristan01 no
tmell08 1 year ago
a shame that Bellof didn't had a onboard cam with him in hís lap of 6.11
fvery nice vid however
mgammeren 1 year ago
now, that is the king of nurburgring nordschleife, the porsche 956...
theundeadx 1 year ago
when you see a nordschleife lap video that last 7min, you know it has to be fast :)
pakkinen 1 year ago 2
is this real time, or he fast forwards a little bit?
odinandme 1 year ago
@odinandme real time
BaxterLinn 1 year ago
hujust cant seem to find a prince who knows his way around a womans body
AbbeeNges3 1 year ago
funny how the car is going much faster than it looks...
RUMEMPEROR 2 years ago 3
i wonder how he cope with the bumps...really-really fast with high downforce car....
a86rallychamp 2 years ago
Simply BRILLIANT
By far the most amazing race track in the world!
yongyay 2 years ago 13
Derek Bell is such a class act. Love to see/hear him commentate/talk about racing.
hiergehts 2 years ago 8
Yeah. I like the way he always seemed casual about it - much like on this video - "You've just completed a lap of the nurburgring in six minutes and forty one seconds" as if his gran could do that in her fiesta.
Brilliant bloke.
siraff2 2 years ago 8
his best lap time was 6:11
badman1997 2 years ago 3
No, that was Stefan Bellof´s time...
HeavyweightThinker 1 year ago
Stefan was as far as i know the only one, who managed to get an average speed of over 200km/h on this track.. in the same car.
With a laptime of 6:11,13
ElTyranto 1 year ago
this will help my times on FM3!!
erocker2020 2 years ago 3
6 minutes and 41 seconds. Amazing. I can't do that in Forza 3, than again I am Captain Slow....
Mikec0087 2 years ago
And in Forza 3 if you crash you don't risk dying or seriously damaging the car or yourself
not to mention it's a good deal more comfortable sitting at home in a sofa, than actually feeling the g forces in the car and the insane braking forces
McLarenMercedes 2 years ago 4
You need more practice...
tomlundkwfl 2 years ago
Great video. Thank you for posting. Weird the video is here for almost 4 years. I Found it today :)
CampPerformance 2 years ago
Best educational video on the tube!! :)
hunterhalo2 2 years ago 3
The 965 will always remain a legend in the automotive world. respected and slightly feared. Those machines were stunning but lethal.
Huge props to Derek and Co for taming these beasts and showing us the real way to drive the nurburgring
lt1eg6 2 years ago 5
I wonder how fast a Toyota TS020 could get round the 'Ring?
Christoffski 2 years ago
would probably break the 6 minute mark with a bad ass prototype driver
esotoracing 2 years ago
Hmmm... McNish?
Christoffski 2 years ago
McNish, Brabham, Rockenfeller
supersevenn 2 years ago
@esotoracing You have no idea. Derek Bell is one of the all-time greatest drivers. The 956 has held this record for nearly 28 years, and only now are Zondas etc. getting close. The 6 minute barrier is unlikely to ever be broken because you would need to average 170mph. So, can't wait for that!
In the mean time, please have some more respect for Derek Bell, Jacky Ickx, Stefan Bellof, Niki Lauda, etc.
CarBoreBoy 1 year ago
@CarBoreBoy
170mph is not even possible in dreams. When was Bellof drive 6:11, his average speed is 202,15 km/h, so this is more like 125mph. Average speed of 202 km/h is more scarier than 350 km/h in top speed. Average Formula 1 bolid is able broke down 6 minutes, but need very high average speed of 58 m/s or 209 km/h. Actually you need 210 km/h to do 5:59.
2jzgtejza80 1 year ago
from what I read stefan bellof still holds the track record
at 6 min 11 sec which was set with this car model in
'83
Primorcon 2 years ago
Goosebumps almost all the time. A legendary car on a legendary circuit. Thanks for this one!
TimothySideburns 2 years ago
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zr1 rapes this shit
slungbungdungclung 2 years ago
Actually, this car rapes the ZR1 by miles.
BansheeRiderNL 2 years ago 89
@BansheeRiderNL but this car is not a ZR1, it is not a real world car, it is a race car. and that depends what you mean by rape, lets crash both cars and see who survives
devil7995 1 year ago
@devil7995 Actually I'd put money on race cars being safer, with their rollcages and whatnot. They're designed to protect the driver in high speed (think 150mph) crashes.
mophoplz 1 year ago
@BansheeRiderNL lol dude im amazed people even compare a legendary porsche built le mans car to some road legal "race car".
ghosthunter2006 11 months ago
how the fuck can anyone say a production car "rapes this shit" you must be juvenile or illiterate
freedomsoldier187 2 years ago 83
No. He's just American.
Christoffski 2 years ago 6
@freedomsoldier187 or just retarded :)) mentally ill,mind burnt,or u got hit on your head...badly...
zsterpin 1 year ago
The Porsche 956 was running 195 MPH three times during the lap, The Vette was at its best, 20 MPH slower. On this lap, this Porsche is 45 seconds faster than the vette, Stephen Belloff in the same car is a minute 15 seconds faster. When the Vette made it on to the big straightaway, the Porsche had already cross the start finish line.
Twin540i 2 years ago 10
@Twin540i
With P-956 you can drink coffee and smoke a cigarette and ZR1 would still somewhere between 14th and 15th kilometer
2jzgtejza80 1 year ago
@slungbungdungclung You have taken moron to an WHOLE new fucking level; seriously astronomically stupid. You amaze me. Congratulations. Never comment on youtube again. Ever...Fail.
HC130P8419 7 months ago
back then, an in-car camera weighed as much as half an adult and was a real disadvantage - a lot in a very light car and also didn't help the handling
tommy1971s 2 years ago
I love how Derek Bell mentions when Jacky Ickx passes him at the Foxhole, that the camera is to blame for him being slower than Ickx.
DPCurran 2 years ago 10
Funny is, that he got time to make a lil sightseeing (at 6:19) ^^
PhanAntje76 2 years ago
Was ist die Zeit von Lauda im Training 1975 (6.58.6) eigentlich im Vergleich zu Bellofs Zeit 6.11 wert? Lauda fuhr auf dem längeren Kurs damals über 22 km lang. Das kostete doch mind. 40 Sekunden Zeit. Somit währen das die beiden schnellsten je gefahrenen Zeiten an der Nordschleife.
pirlone808 2 years ago
Das einzig Vergleichbare wäre aufgrund der geänderten Strecke die gefahrene Durchschnitttsgeschwindigkeit. Bellof war der einzige, der eine Nordschleifenrunde mit einer Geschwindigkeit fuhr, die in Schnitt über 200km/h lag.
930den 2 years ago
20 years ago??? lot of babbling from the driver......real lot....grusse
glorys6 2 years ago
Übel Übel, was für eine Zeit hatte dann erst Jacky Ickx...
amunasickhim 2 years ago
the fastest vehicle ever in nurbugring
ngentotsemua 2 years ago
Wow, that driver made this look so easy.
BRazor78 2 years ago
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porsche sucks! good driving though.
cliffrex 2 years ago
woohoo you da man!!
zyoungson215 2 years ago
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Sadfishx 2 years ago
6 minutes is sooooooooo fast
badman1997 2 years ago
of course, its a porsche !
freedomsoldier187 2 years ago
Sure...., the car's doing the driving. Dumbass. From someone thats done 150/170 mph on a bike/car respectively and been goin' fast since the 80's, you can take nothing from these guys. They've got gigantic balls and are more of a man than you or I will ever be.
jasonpilla 2 years ago 7
Fuckin' Christ... Goin' around that track in under 7 minutes... You really couldn't let your concentration go...
Too bad most racers and teams are just pathetic wanna-bes who let the car do the driving.
Or at least it seems that way, like how they cut up the Le Mans track, 'cause it was too dangerous.
LordJesseD 2 years ago
Wow, I could hardly recognise half of the ring! Where are all the trees? I think it's a lot prettier now.
tomnottim 2 years ago
I would say the track was in better condition then than now
TheRealInvaderZim 2 years ago
it is a shame that Bellofs record lap was not completely filmed onboard just like this lap.He was the best in the Porsche 956 just like Gerhard Berger in the BMW 635CSI
swingerclub 2 years ago 4
What a machine.........What a track......What a combination
mattybuk84 2 years ago 3
What a driver! Can you imagine doing that lap after lap?
tigerbaiter 2 years ago 3
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British english sounds so gay........
castorini 2 years ago
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Denusch 2 years ago
i'm english and i think the same thing. aha
Denusch 2 years ago
And Swiss doesn't?
tomnottim 2 years ago
It is funny to see the change in foliage from this video to what it looks like now. Some trees are gone in the second half, but most of the first half in this vid is totally different looking in terms of tree cover.
917Tenor 3 years ago
your not wrong...mindblowing...whats impressive,is the time that been set by the radical sr8,and theirs more to come they have been said,and then theres also the caparo t1 tp go round..wonder if the can be as quick?
sidewayssam 3 years ago
what made me laugh,was when jackie icks went past,and to think bellof did some thing like a 6.15...if you have ever heard bell or ickz speak about him,they did'nt doubt that at some point he'd meet his end,..as he was mental..shame..as it makes you realise how large the gulf is between them and us..and i rate myself as a driver...done the ring more than once,and to put it into perspective,you dont have time to look at the country side your concentrating so much..
sidewayssam 3 years ago
@sidewayssam: Stefan Bellof did 6:11 in fact. Just incredible.
stenovitz 3 years ago
a little bit tricky. A LITTLE BIT tricky. HA. LITTLE BIT. For him, yes. I would be dead. Little bit, i can't believe it, that's really strange.
Bretone75 3 years ago 3
Like thatsbollox said. Weight aboard. Film cameras of the early 80's were big and heavy and it must have made the car's center of gravity higher. Derek Bell is a legend.
VonVoltage 3 years ago 4
Remember Stefan Bellof did it in 6:11 wich is 30 sek. faster!! :-)
salamandercake 3 years ago 4
Absolute legend of a driver...rest in peace
StuRaz 3 years ago 5
Jesus Christ...Just when I thought it wasnt possible to go any faster, Jackie Ickx goes flying the fuck by! My GOD that was fast.
yeagemk 3 years ago 12
man, you can really see how much grip they get from the ground effects...
Kamk4ze 3 years ago 4
In those times the drivers were ....pro's....No traction control at all or ABS etc. If you crash in those times at le mans and others, you just died, that were the real mans. Who got the real balls. Respect.
j00h00st 3 years ago 8
The trouble with simulators, is that you get no feedback through the 'seat of your pants!' I can - and have - driven a race kart fast, but a simulator....I'm dangerous! LOL
Factnotfictionpeople 3 years ago
i cant believe this was done by a human! on gt4 its nearly impossible to stay on the track near the straight because the bumps will fling you off and then add the g forces and the fact that youll actually die its unbelievable!
venomviper32 3 years ago 4
Magnificent driving by a legend in one of the greatest race machines in history.
Smooth as a babies bum without pushing too hard. Would have been nice if they kept more engine note for the vid but one of the greatest in car vids i've seen.
Lot of practice laps to get the balls up to hold pace for those blind ones. Phenomenal driving...6-1/2 min lap with weight onboard and not pushing.
thatsbollox 3 years ago 4
This is Nuts !
Going these speeds in that deathtrap of a car ,on that course ... You need huge balls of steel. lol
glas4000 3 years ago 4
balls of Kevlar..lol
chachavessel 3 years ago
More like balls of TITANIUM!! I've tracked at 140+ mph, couldn't imagine 240 mph..........
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Wheretoooo 3 years ago
Love the commentary.
whitefangv 3 years ago 3
this may sound a bit lame but i use this vid alongside a lap of the ring with my forza on the xbox,its a proper rush with Dereks commentary,but i manage to do a 6.43 with my wheel on it,but in real life i would defo brown them!!!!
TTROLDSKOOL 3 years ago 2
it only sounds lame because you don't own a proper car to race on the real track. you poor bastard. $300 xbox 360, $50 game, $50 internet connection. Priceless.
industry pawned you.
exojjl 3 years ago
wtf???im 34 and i drive a strada abarth 130 tc,if i didnt have 2 kids maybe i would consider going there!!!but what is lame is you coming on here on making a comment like that to me,you need to get a life ya lame prik!
TTROLDSKOOL 3 years ago 7
wow, I have this whole video, on Tape, that I bought 17 years ago, has many tracks all with commentary...good old days racing!! awsome derek bell :-)
canericankev 3 years ago
poitman60
Thank you very much. These ignorants. These Porsches were so unbelievably fast. Bell is a very cool lad. But the best and fastest of all was - Stefan Bellof!
rennfahrer234 3 years ago
Yes but stefan was also a little cocky like Jackie Ickx, and thats why they didnt mix well. It is a shame we lost him, caue he was the next up and coming star.
blacdout96 3 years ago
he averaged 126 mph, which is the highest average, he also has the fastest track record..
1337ASM 3 years ago
Dear wavefrontbum (dude!) You moron it's Derek Bell who won Le Mans 3 times and he hits 195 MILES PER HOUR on the main straight you poor dickhead. The only stupid one on this page is you. Dude.
And csampan1 Yes Stefan Bellof did do a lap in 6.11 the year before he was killed at Spa over twenty years ago. I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong. Look up Bellof accident at Spa and check it out for yourself.
poitman60 3 years ago 3
Best car on best track ever! This is pure gold!
IloveAlexisBledel689 3 years ago
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170 miles an hour thats 272kmh - Guys it cannot be Right, stupid commentator.
wavefrontmaya 3 years ago
Stupid Commentator??? Do you have any idea who or what you are talking about???
Ever heard of Derek Bell???
thomaswhiter 3 years ago
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dude I realy dont think that it did 272km... thats my point... so fuck off ThomasWhiteAss
wavefrontmaya 3 years ago
The man talking us through the lap is the man who was driving the car.
Why wouldn't he be doing 170mph? It's a racing car capable of doing ~200mph
danieldoylem 3 years ago
what is wrong with you? are you really that stupid?
teyso78 3 years ago
i was replying to wave frontmaya.
teyso78 3 years ago
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thats the same question ur mother asked me!
wavefrontmaya 3 years ago
As the others have pointed out that was Derek Bell, the driver of the car. That lap he did was a 6 min lap for 13 miles. He has no reason to lie, and if you check the Ring site it can confirm the speeds for you.
bob22bob 3 years ago
Superb tour of the 'Ring. What a gentleman! Wish I had seen this before my last visit.
notasplitter 3 years ago 2
If only the Le Mans Series would take the Nordschleife on instead of the F1 track...
Didn't Stefan Bellof run a 6:11 lap or something absolutely blazing like that, that year? He really took to the 956 like a fish in water.
csampang1 3 years ago
Belofs lap record for the Nordschleife still stands - I think it was 6:11 if I remember rightly.
It's a shame that a guy of his talent wasn't around long; due to the fatal shunt at Spa in 1985.
3000ST1 3 years ago
great Nurburgring vid.
helps you understand the course better.
mr2ya 3 years ago
Didn't the 956 crack 250mph at Le Mans? Also, how much slower was it than an F1 car? It looks like it isn't far off being as quick....
Nickthebassist01 3 years ago
956 only got upto 230mph at Le Mans, the 962 did 240mph. IIRC only one car has topped 250mph at Le Mans, and that was because they sealed the cooling ducts to be more aerodynamic down the straight.
The 956 holds the record around the Nurburgring with Stefan Bellof in 6:11 and a modern F1 car could theoretically beat the 6 minute mark as shown by BMW and Nick Heidfeld.
deltree 3 years ago
Oh? There's a vid saying 'Porsche 956 does 400km/h at Le Mans' on Youtube somewhere. It certainly looks blindingly, mentally fast!
So, in theory, this car isn't THAT much slower than an f1 car? What I don't get is how an F1 car can be so much quicker, when it's not as aerodynamic as a closer wheel car?
Nickthebassist01 3 years ago
@Nickthebassist01
F1 cars are much slower than Group C/LMP cars in straight lines. A Group C/LMP car can get to 240MPH. A Formula car will struggle to get to 230 MPH (most only do 220MPH).
Atheismrulez 1 year ago
@Atheismrulez f1 car slower in term of the top speed because of the drag, in term of acceleration i dont think any race car could challenge f1 car, only dragsters could..
theundeadx 1 year ago