Nice video. So now you know that it was the Aztecs who invented a bureacratic government. You forgot to mention that in addition to celebrating the arrival of a new born baby whose name was chosen based on his astrological sign, the child was delivered by a midwife, and the baby was baptised with water; I suspect the missionaries later incorporated this tradition into Catholism in order to make the conversion easier.
Yes, there were slaves, just as there was in the United States and Ancient Egypt. Shall we throw those civilizations out with the bathwater, too? Yes there was violence against neighboring populations -- with death toll numbers probably not nearly as ghastly as Nagasaki and Hiroshima. Most of their military endeavors were to gain tributes from vassal states - they did not attack lesser states for the sake of genocidal sport. What good is a vassal state if there is no one left to pay tribute?
The Nazis had a very advanced culture. Their roads and machines were well made, and one of their automobile designs was still very popular decades later. Many of our modern ideas, like unemployment insurance and the blitzkrieg, were pioneered by them. And so on.
In fact, if you carefully avoid talking about their death camps, aggressive wars and the SS or Eizengruppen, you might even be able to make them sound like nice guys. Which they weren't, no more than were Aztec slavers and cannibals.
@HCFBEE Funny, isn't it. The way Leftists are so keen to accuse others of being fascists, you'd figure they'd at least try not to be fascists themselves. Not a chance. They even go to great lengths to bend history so as to defend their favored fascists of the past.
The Aztec Empire was run by a particularly nasty group of people. Because Leftists have an interest in fanning racial prejudice in Mexico, there's been some attempts to pretend that this wasn't so. Guess you're in on this lie too.
@DrCruel you're not a thinker, you're just a regurgitator. Even the conquistadors called Tenochtitlan the Venice of the Americas, which incidentally, successfully sustained one of the largest urban populations on Earth at the time. Sure there was violence and bloodshed in the name of faith (cannabalism, uhhh... no) but at this moment in time there was plenty of that to go around amongst all civilizations. Do I really need to bring up the Spanish Inquisition? Then again, you probably agree w that
@HCFBEE If Tenochtitlan was called the "Venice of the Americas", it was because it was surrounded by water. Likewise, I remind (as per my earlier remark) that technological advancement does not equate to ethical superiority. If that were so it would be the Spanish who occupied the moral high ground.
The Aztecs were advanced. They were also brutal imperialists, and mercilessly persecuted their neighbors. They were the Nazis of Mezoamerica.
@HCFBEE This isn't a debate. I've pointed out that this video is trying to make a very nasty group of mass murdering imperialists look like a pleasant nation of clever innovators. You've accusing me of all sorts of thought crimes because of it, to include support for religious torture and the persecution of Jews.
I suspect, if this video lauding all the "good things" that the Spanish did for native peoples of the Americas, you'd have something more useful to say.
@DrCruel You're right, it's not a debate, because you have no valid points on anything. You're just here to be "cruel" and discount an entire civilization in wholesale because of things that ALL imperial civilizations throughout history are guilty of (and you're not even good at it). And may I remind you that you started this exchange with meaningless accusations: "Leftist", "Fascist" - so don't lecture me on Ad Hominem attacks.
@HCFBEE I have several valid points - that the Aztecs were objectively vicious, that presenting them as "enlightened" is as obnoxiously offensive as it is historically wrong, and that revisionist presentations trying to claim otherwise ought to be brought to task. You're the one who's claimed otherwise - and have used nothing more demonstrative than insults as proof.
The Aztecs created and maintained an empire based on calculated, periodic genocides. There's no nice way to finesse that.
@DrCruel I thought you weren't debating? Very well, then. The Aztecs were highly adept at mathematics and astronomy. Ever hear of the number 0? They had a complex civilization that included a public education and institutions of higher learning. They, including other Mesoamerican cultures, revolutionized agriculture like no other region on the planet. What would Italy be without the Tomato? What would Ireland be without the Potato? What would the US be without Corn? Cont.
@HCFBEE There's nothing to debate - Aztecs were brutal and oppressive savages, even by the low standards of the region. It's an established fact. That fact is mitigated as much by Aztec ziggurats as the autobahn does for the Nazis.
They did have a complex civilization. Many of the peoples they brutalized had complex civilizations too. Thats why, when the Spaniards gave them the upper hand, the Tlaxcala and other indigenous peoples practically wiped the Aztecs out.
@HCFBEE (...incidentally, it's a bit stupid to claim the Aztecs as inventors of the potato, don't you think? As for Aztec tomatoes, they were small yellow things. It was the Europeans that bred tomatoes into what we know today, and in only a hundred years or so.
The number zero was first used by the Hindus, and was already in wide circulation a thousand years before the Aztec civilization existed.
Why do you insist on being an apologist for Aztec fascism? You're embarrassing yourself. )
@HCFBEE I certainly don't feel inclined to add anything erroneous, as you apparently have. I'll be charitable, and assume you're simply being ignorant rather than willfully lying.
And what is a "right-wing Nazi" anyway? The historical Nazis were Left-wing socialists.
@DrCruel Hence my right wing qualifier, DUH. You aim to dehumanize people to serve your own ends (although, with much less success than the uber-nationalistic Nazis, since you're an inefective troll). Funny how you think your so smart when all you do is just parrot the likes of Michael Savage. The extent of your knowledge is limited to what you've seen on the History Channel. You obviously haven't done any real research on the Aztecs or Mesoamerica. What a tard. Thanks for the laughs, troll.
It is amazing all the conceps are correct and the comparaison to modern life is a great goal to the objetive...I´d like to know were is your fountain of information, because I spent several years to get to this point...¿Your teacher? ¿Your parents? please ,let me know....Congratulations.
gringos they no nothing about histories from mexico or incas or mayas why because firth thing they no were the came anglos they came to this land nothing and there no respect the law of humans law lands people tresure and respect
lorb123: Is Chocolate, actually that words has nahuatl roots, the original word is xocolatl. Cacao is the plant also used by the Aztecs. And you should know when those people arrived to a friend's house they offered you a "glass" of xocolatl as we do today for a beer to a friend.
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yeah we killed them all that´s why "Latin america" is 85% indian. They hate spAniards but indians want to pass as mestizos and mestizos want to pass as spaniards.
lATINAMERICANS ENVY THERE MASTERS AND OWNERS; THE MASTER RACE ; THE SPANIARDS
CORTES CONQUERED THE AZTEC EMPIRE WITH ONLY 500 MEN!
500 men...? and 10 000 plus native reinforcements from the tlaxcaltecas and huexotzincas you moron... learn history then speak, stupid gachupin... you're just like your fucking king... an imbecile, and please remember the happy end of your "armada invencible".
Fuck This, Montezuma and his army would have ass raped the stupid Spaniards but he thought it was Quetzalcoatl And How The Fuck Do You Fight A God... Answer To This XGOCADIZ
I read that it wasn't Montezuma that thought the spaniards where Gods. I read it was the indians that hated the Aztecs that thought the spaniards where Gods, and fought along side the spaniards, in hopes they would defeat the Aztecs.
BULL FUCKING SHIT! im mexican and i have spaniard in me and trust me... i never even mention the fact that i have spaniard in me. because i'm deeply proud of my aztec heritage. they were a far smarter and greater people then the spaniards were that's why people from all over the world go to mexico to learn about them and their history. FUCK spain your are all a bunch of racist fucktards. you guys didnt bring anything special to our land but disease and death.
Spaniards didn't take down the Aztecs with only 500 hundren people. If you do more research you'll see that the 500 spaniards defeated large indian armies, not the Aztecs. The aztecs thought the spaniards where Gods and allowed them to enter without a fight. When Cortez realized he didn't have enought people to take over the Aztec nation he seized Montezuma and held him as hostage for the safety of the Spaniards. After that, the Aztecs revolted THEN started a fight ('la noche triste')
Nice video. So now you know that it was the Aztecs who invented a bureacratic government. You forgot to mention that in addition to celebrating the arrival of a new born baby whose name was chosen based on his astrological sign, the child was delivered by a midwife, and the baby was baptised with water; I suspect the missionaries later incorporated this tradition into Catholism in order to make the conversion easier.
vutube379 1 month ago
Yes, there were slaves, just as there was in the United States and Ancient Egypt. Shall we throw those civilizations out with the bathwater, too? Yes there was violence against neighboring populations -- with death toll numbers probably not nearly as ghastly as Nagasaki and Hiroshima. Most of their military endeavors were to gain tributes from vassal states - they did not attack lesser states for the sake of genocidal sport. What good is a vassal state if there is no one left to pay tribute?
HCFBEE 4 months ago
Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
tepan4d 7 months ago
The Nazis had a very advanced culture. Their roads and machines were well made, and one of their automobile designs was still very popular decades later. Many of our modern ideas, like unemployment insurance and the blitzkrieg, were pioneered by them. And so on.
In fact, if you carefully avoid talking about their death camps, aggressive wars and the SS or Eizengruppen, you might even be able to make them sound like nice guys. Which they weren't, no more than were Aztec slavers and cannibals.
DrCruel 1 year ago
@DrCruel was that in Limbaughs stack of stuff this morning?
HCFBEE 4 months ago
@HCFBEE Funny, isn't it. The way Leftists are so keen to accuse others of being fascists, you'd figure they'd at least try not to be fascists themselves. Not a chance. They even go to great lengths to bend history so as to defend their favored fascists of the past.
The Aztec Empire was run by a particularly nasty group of people. Because Leftists have an interest in fanning racial prejudice in Mexico, there's been some attempts to pretend that this wasn't so. Guess you're in on this lie too.
DrCruel 4 months ago
@DrCruel you're not a thinker, you're just a regurgitator. Even the conquistadors called Tenochtitlan the Venice of the Americas, which incidentally, successfully sustained one of the largest urban populations on Earth at the time. Sure there was violence and bloodshed in the name of faith (cannabalism, uhhh... no) but at this moment in time there was plenty of that to go around amongst all civilizations. Do I really need to bring up the Spanish Inquisition? Then again, you probably agree w that
HCFBEE 4 months ago
@HCFBEE If Tenochtitlan was called the "Venice of the Americas", it was because it was surrounded by water. Likewise, I remind (as per my earlier remark) that technological advancement does not equate to ethical superiority. If that were so it would be the Spanish who occupied the moral high ground.
The Aztecs were advanced. They were also brutal imperialists, and mercilessly persecuted their neighbors. They were the Nazis of Mezoamerica.
Stop being a snide prick and start making sense.
DrCruel 4 months ago
@DrCruel snide prick? I'm not the one trolling on a high school history project... learn how to spell Mesoamerica, then maybe we can have a debate.
HCFBEE 4 months ago
@HCFBEE This isn't a debate. I've pointed out that this video is trying to make a very nasty group of mass murdering imperialists look like a pleasant nation of clever innovators. You've accusing me of all sorts of thought crimes because of it, to include support for religious torture and the persecution of Jews.
I suspect, if this video lauding all the "good things" that the Spanish did for native peoples of the Americas, you'd have something more useful to say.
DrCruel 4 months ago
@DrCruel You're right, it's not a debate, because you have no valid points on anything. You're just here to be "cruel" and discount an entire civilization in wholesale because of things that ALL imperial civilizations throughout history are guilty of (and you're not even good at it). And may I remind you that you started this exchange with meaningless accusations: "Leftist", "Fascist" - so don't lecture me on Ad Hominem attacks.
HCFBEE 4 months ago
@HCFBEE I have several valid points - that the Aztecs were objectively vicious, that presenting them as "enlightened" is as obnoxiously offensive as it is historically wrong, and that revisionist presentations trying to claim otherwise ought to be brought to task. You're the one who's claimed otherwise - and have used nothing more demonstrative than insults as proof.
The Aztecs created and maintained an empire based on calculated, periodic genocides. There's no nice way to finesse that.
DrCruel 4 months ago
@DrCruel I thought you weren't debating? Very well, then. The Aztecs were highly adept at mathematics and astronomy. Ever hear of the number 0? They had a complex civilization that included a public education and institutions of higher learning. They, including other Mesoamerican cultures, revolutionized agriculture like no other region on the planet. What would Italy be without the Tomato? What would Ireland be without the Potato? What would the US be without Corn? Cont.
HCFBEE 4 months ago
@HCFBEE There's nothing to debate - Aztecs were brutal and oppressive savages, even by the low standards of the region. It's an established fact. That fact is mitigated as much by Aztec ziggurats as the autobahn does for the Nazis.
They did have a complex civilization. Many of the peoples they brutalized had complex civilizations too. Thats why, when the Spaniards gave them the upper hand, the Tlaxcala and other indigenous peoples practically wiped the Aztecs out.
DrCruel 4 months ago
@HCFBEE (...incidentally, it's a bit stupid to claim the Aztecs as inventors of the potato, don't you think? As for Aztec tomatoes, they were small yellow things. It was the Europeans that bred tomatoes into what we know today, and in only a hundred years or so.
The number zero was first used by the Hindus, and was already in wide circulation a thousand years before the Aztec civilization existed.
Why do you insist on being an apologist for Aztec fascism? You're embarrassing yourself. )
DrCruel 4 months ago
@DrCruel Hahhaha, my comments hitting a little close to home, eh? you right wing Nazi... figured you'd have nothing constructive to add.
HCFBEE 4 months ago
@HCFBEE I certainly don't feel inclined to add anything erroneous, as you apparently have. I'll be charitable, and assume you're simply being ignorant rather than willfully lying.
And what is a "right-wing Nazi" anyway? The historical Nazis were Left-wing socialists.
DrCruel 4 months ago
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HCFBEE 4 months ago
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@DrCruel Hence my right wing qualifier, DUH. You aim to dehumanize people to serve your own ends (although, with much less success than the uber-nationalistic Nazis, since you're an inefective troll). Funny how you think your so smart when all you do is just parrot the likes of Michael Savage. The extent of your knowledge is limited to what you've seen on the History Channel. You obviously haven't done any real research on the Aztecs or Mesoamerica. What a tard. Thanks for the laughs, troll.
HCFBEE 4 months ago
Oh by the way... Mixtecas (or Aztecs), Purepechas, Cochimi, Hustecos, Coras, otomies..and so on..
are also "American", North American.
WolfEyesatNight 1 year ago
@WolfEyesatNight Mixtecas? You mean Mexica. The "aztecs" called themselves Mexica.
carsiotto 1 year ago
@carsiotto
yikes, you're right, is Mexica, Mexico is called after them.
Mixtecas are much darker and heavier than the Aztecs.. in fact almost negro, they live in the state of Oaxaca.
WolfEyesatNight 1 year ago
The Aztecs would punish their kids..by having them put their faces in burning chile (jalapenos to US people) or worse.
WolfEyesatNight 1 year ago
It is amazing all the conceps are correct and the comparaison to modern life is a great goal to the objetive...I´d like to know were is your fountain of information, because I spent several years to get to this point...¿Your teacher? ¿Your parents? please ,let me know....Congratulations.
emiliomoranarte 1 year ago
the kid should do something on his ancestors.
1980vince 1 year ago 6
what the fuck... is this?
AdemAvTurkiet 1 year ago
gringos they no nothing about histories from mexico or incas or mayas why because firth thing they no were the came anglos they came to this land nothing and there no respect the law of humans law lands people tresure and respect
halowars001 2 years ago 8
Good job , Did your parents recommend doing it on the Aztec?
SterlingIsGolden 2 years ago
excellent
miighankurt 2 years ago
Did someone fart in the video?
bshitter 3 years ago 9
no someone did not
coolboy1234545 3 years ago
@coolboy1234545 haha I heard it!
carsiotto 1 year ago
In spanish we have many sounds for X, examples:
Mexico (Mehico) English sound
Xochimilco (Sochimilco) S sound
Texcoco (Tekscoco) Your sound
Have a nice day!
micpedraza 3 years ago
lorb123: Is Chocolate, actually that words has nahuatl roots, the original word is xocolatl. Cacao is the plant also used by the Aztecs. And you should know when those people arrived to a friend's house they offered you a "glass" of xocolatl as we do today for a beer to a friend.
micpedraza 3 years ago
oh wow your voice was so different!!
bornbeautyxx 3 years ago
oscaradrianvazquez are you sure???? chocolate? no, CACAO the root of chocolate.
lorb123 3 years ago
They forgot that the aztecs enjoyed chocolate as much as we do. They also had great hygene and so were very clean people.
oscaradrianvazquez 3 years ago 3
rabies
libertycitysfinest 3 years ago
BTW the Aztecs at toddler years they learnd to do chores and at 15 went to normal school
D1rtyStylez 3 years ago
fuckin crackers
14ese 3 years ago 4
cortez lied to the aztecs came in ass afriend then back stabbed them thats hte only reason teh one
soprano562 3 years ago
FUCK SPAIN VIVA MEXICO!!!!
brownprideaztec 4 years ago 9
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yeah we killed them all that´s why "Latin america" is 85% indian. They hate spAniards but indians want to pass as mestizos and mestizos want to pass as spaniards.
lATINAMERICANS ENVY THERE MASTERS AND OWNERS; THE MASTER RACE ; THE SPANIARDS
CORTES CONQUERED THE AZTEC EMPIRE WITH ONLY 500 MEN!
VIVA ESPAÑA!!!
xgocadiz 4 years ago
your point??
AylinnHung 4 years ago
If You Would Have Said That In Front Of Me A Would Have Killed Your Whole Family!!!
browndemon386 4 years ago
500 men...? and 10 000 plus native reinforcements from the tlaxcaltecas and huexotzincas you moron... learn history then speak, stupid gachupin... you're just like your fucking king... an imbecile, and please remember the happy end of your "armada invencible".
RodrigoMera 4 years ago
Fuck This, Montezuma and his army would have ass raped the stupid Spaniards but he thought it was Quetzalcoatl And How The Fuck Do You Fight A God... Answer To This XGOCADIZ
MercurialSkill7 4 years ago 2
I read that it wasn't Montezuma that thought the spaniards where Gods. I read it was the indians that hated the Aztecs that thought the spaniards where Gods, and fought along side the spaniards, in hopes they would defeat the Aztecs.
W1tchingHour 3 years ago 2
so everyone plus spain vs aztecs and if it wernt for desise the aztecs would have won? wow lucky Cortez
HADESRULE44 3 years ago
españa fue conquistada por los ARABES por mas de 7 siglos!!
jajajaja!
ya no eres tan puro como crees! jjajaja!!
eres arabe puto!
KAPULINIX 4 years ago
BULL FUCKING SHIT! im mexican and i have spaniard in me and trust me... i never even mention the fact that i have spaniard in me. because i'm deeply proud of my aztec heritage. they were a far smarter and greater people then the spaniards were that's why people from all over the world go to mexico to learn about them and their history. FUCK spain your are all a bunch of racist fucktards. you guys didnt bring anything special to our land but disease and death.
killer1983a 4 years ago 2
they did bring catholicism to our land though.
gearhead2k6 3 years ago
i'll give them that.
killer1983a 3 years ago
@gearhead2k6 and they could have there satanic religion right back. fuck you
1980vince 1 year ago
@1980vince The Aztecs? Yes I agree.
gearhead2k6 1 year ago
only 500 men??? are you shure?
and the Tlaxcaltecas?? you are a dumb
huitzilomotl 3 years ago 2
Spaniards didn't take down the Aztecs with only 500 hundren people. If you do more research you'll see that the 500 spaniards defeated large indian armies, not the Aztecs. The aztecs thought the spaniards where Gods and allowed them to enter without a fight. When Cortez realized he didn't have enought people to take over the Aztec nation he seized Montezuma and held him as hostage for the safety of the Spaniards. After that, the Aztecs revolted THEN started a fight ('la noche triste')
W1tchingHour 3 years ago 3
cool video
borwn5555 4 years ago 3
Tlazo'camati* for postin'! Great job on your vid that ya made for history class!
*Thanx in nahuatl(aztec).
qualqui 4 years ago