Well the obvious has been finally shown. But this guy also teaches a extra ordinary amount
of some kind of dogma of his own and my younger brother believes this over confident one armed Germanic ass clown. Billy Bullshit ARTIST! This guy resembles a cult leader in many ways.
are these billy liar meier trolls fucking blind your pics are at least as good as his best efforts and most look better, fair enough he,s got a nicer landscape to set it in and has had years of practice but may i ask why you spend the lots of time effort and cash to debunk this old tosspot. Is it the challenge of proving it can be done or do you hate to see people being conned? Have you seen any ufo footage that made you think wow whats that!! why do you think meier does it money,fame etcetc
@JOOGAL1111 I did it because no one had done it before and it's about time! iigwest were trying to debunk meier in 2009 and I had acces to the wcufo lids so I told them I would make it. Then it was "in for a penny in for a pound". I was only going to make ther wcufo as a model to prove it was a model but had to do the photos. Then Horn said the hasenbol photos couldn't be done so I did those and knew I had to work out the movies. So I did those too. cont...
@JOOGAL1111 ...cont. The ufo footage in Jerusalem recently was good and a bit wow because there are 3 videos form different ppl at the same time. It can be faked if they all do it on purpose and cgi it later on each footage but I don't know yet. There's some footage over the bbc building in london recently also that got a mention on tv. Meier does it for the living. he hasn't had to "go to work" for a long time now. Everyone mucks in at his farm so he's comfortable. Publishing deals!
@Mrmorlam1 personally i think it started as a joke and he could not believe that people bought it, then it snowballed from there and his confidence grew and his models just got ridiculous and people kept buying it. then he went the whole hog and realised free labour at the farm all the young gullible ufo groupies he could bang form then on they made his excuses for him. Watched contact the pro meier film made in the 70s one thing that struck me (and this is just my opinion) is that people are
are saying how could he do all that with one arm. the man in the movie who,s billys friend and worked on the farm for years you only see him a few times he,s got a big beard is number one suspect in my book. Maybe meier gives him a cut he gets to bang a few groupies who knows his motives.
Kal Korff is the only one claiming to know its a hoax most others switched sides when their futile attempts exactly like yours didnt measure up under CLOSE SCRUTINY.experts say meiers many craft range from 3 to 7 metres.people who are narrow minded cant comprehend the data, they just nit pick any area that aint rock solid without been able to deliberate on the entirety of material.Kal Korff is a loner imprisoned by his belief rather than going on facts, he`s had sites taken down for his deceit
in switzerland people have signed affidavids YOU FOOL!! shows how much YOU know. typical know it all idiot,if you did speak to edgar mitchell you would know he stated " with the meier case you dont even the physical evidence ..the prophetic copyrited releases are enough" indeed enough for anyone who aint thick as a plank i say,so if you think he didnt say this im sure he could state it in an email to you ??? that should be easy for you to do especially if he "didnt say it".
@DEBRISTHEREOF Yes they signed those "thinking" they had witnessed alien demonstrations. That is all. PERHAPS YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE EMAILS I GOT FROM MR. MITCHELL?? He did ask to not be published since he didn't want anything to do with Horn. I couldn't care less if you believe it or not. I must defend my position of course and when ppl like you come along spouting utter rubbish spoon fed to you by Meier I must show others you are wrong. Or they will not realize your mistake.
@Mrmorlam1 in your ignorance you havent a clue that some who witnessed events while investigating meier were ufo investigaters... FIRST YOU "SPOKE TO MITCHELL" NOW ITS BY EMAIL. RUBBISH! yes let everyone see them, because EDGAR MITCHELL is still in the process of studying all availible documents on the case. his position as stated in public is clear! your the only 1 spoon feeding nonsense to people! the experts opinions are clear so WHO THE HELL ARE YOU! people are so lazy they believe your vid
If ANYONE believes for 1 micro second that this nonsense would stand up beside meiers well then send it forward to THEYFLY.COM and collect $10.000, many so called experts have tried, under testing its seen for the rubbish that is.this case is different,look at what the experts are saying like DAVID FRONING ASTRO ENGINEER mcdonnald douglas secret millitary clearance: "my colleagues & i may have made breaktroughs in our understanding of faster than light travel from reading billy meiers accounts"
@Mrmorlam1 JUDGING by your effort theres only one of us truly worthy of the -thick as a fat plank award! and YES is the answer he stated it publicly on coast2coast, i doubt you have sent it & if you have im sure he just laughed at it,THE MONEY IS THERE because theres more than just "a photo" at stake here! do you think your the first person to put forward this sort of attempt?many other people witnessed and pictured the craft over in switzerland! lunar astronaut EDGAR MITCHELL believes billy!
@DEBRISTHEREOF More useless nonsense. EDGAR MITCHELL you say? You don't know I spoke with Edgar Mitchell personally and I assure you he is NOT interested in the case at all. He simply asked Horn for a piece of information and Horn turned it into a fiasco that Mitchell wanted nothing to do with. Get your facts straight you prize winning pratt. I have proof of that directly. No, not "many people witnessed the ufos in Switzerland". you're simply gullible. That is all. Grow up and get out more.
Now all you have to do is debunk the "credible" witnesses - Wendell Stevens would probably be a good place to start? Ive been waiting for someone to show something like this to explain how it was done. But i do find Wendall to be a credible source. My Parents worked for the government and were involved in Top Secrete projects and i know a few things but not much really. I know that some of the "unexplained" UFOs are Military but not all from what i gather
@jayssonjohnny dont fall for this lame attempt... it doesnt measure up to meiers, and meiers was done in the 70s defore photoshop before computers, the special effects crews -the best hollywood has- from independance day say they know fakes and meiers aint fakes! kal korff is a liar and deluded fool, hes had his sites taken dowm many times for threatening peoples lives. michael horn is offering $10.000 to ANYONE to put their attempts up for testing alongside meiers, not one person can do it !
@DEBRISTHEREOF I was totally being a smart-ass to this "disinfo" nutjob. If he would do "all" (not just some) of the research on The Eduard Meires case then he would know that he has not a fuckin clue. But Im not so sure that the operators from these craft are not from -->New Berlin
You make it so obvious that Billy was a trickster, and yet I've had many debates with UFO nuts who cited Billy as their prime evidence for UFO's being 'oh so real---and you just have to believe'.
@AtheistToothFairy dont fall for this rubbish, meier didnt have photoshop in the 70s or computers, theres $10.000 on offer to ANYONE who can reproduce just one of meiers pictuers and put it up alongside meiers for testing, nobody can do it, if you think this sort of thing will stand up.. send it to THEYFLY.COM and see what the experts have to say, wahts there to lose??????
@DEBRISTHEREOF:"dont fall for this rubbish, meier didnt have photoshop in the 70s or computers"
Might I say the same to you, meaning, don't you fall for all these UFO hoaxes, like you seem to be doing so far.
Common sense should tell you that UFO's can't be visitations from Aliens, or they either would have landed and introduced themselves, blown us to pieces, or stayed hidden from sight.
No alien is goint to play Cat&Mouse for decades with us, now are they?
@AtheistToothFairy what do you mean i fall for ALL THESE HOAX`S, meier is THE only person having ongoin contacts on this planet, people like you ignore the very standards you claim to represent-scientific testing, and there opinion is clear,.as physicist michio kaku says why would they land if they are millenia ahead of us? kaku believes "some ufo`s could be alien visitors" in the meier case its stated that they wanted to start a ufo controversy.
@DEBRISTHEREOF:"meier is THE only person having ongoin contacts on this planet"
Meier is a total fraud and you would do well to look at the evidence that clearly demonstrates he is.
Face it, you believe in UFO's and Meier, because you have an emotional reason to do so, but your reason is not based on factual evidence whatsoever.
If you respect Kaku's views because of his stature, then I suggest you watch Neil Degrass Tyson's counter views on UFO's and learn something about evidence
@AtheistToothFairy actually im well aware of degrass tysons BELIEFS and his stubborness in the face of multible levels of coroberating evidence. not only kaku but scientists across the board are getting on board like kaku. tyson cant comprehend a race being a million yrs ahead, all he sees is the speed of light and the distance.
"evidence that clearly demonstrates he is" all IVE done is state evidence . you stated yourself you dont BELIEVE we can be visited . i hold no such stubborn BELIEF
@DEBRISTHEREOF That's funny! I have sent quite a few photos to theyfly.com and never even got a response concerning them??? You really think anyone there will give $10000 for a stupid photo? I've got many photos that out-rank meiers photos for apparent genuineness. You really think they will admit I "did it"?? You are such a fool! I have never used photoshop and btw Meiers wcufo photos have been "photoshopped" for presentation in case you didn't notice. What a waste of time you are.
Well the obvious has been finally shown. But this guy also teaches a extra ordinary amount
of some kind of dogma of his own and my younger brother believes this over confident one armed Germanic ass clown. Billy Bullshit ARTIST! This guy resembles a cult leader in many ways.
BigGregWalsh 2 months ago
are these billy liar meier trolls fucking blind your pics are at least as good as his best efforts and most look better, fair enough he,s got a nicer landscape to set it in and has had years of practice but may i ask why you spend the lots of time effort and cash to debunk this old tosspot. Is it the challenge of proving it can be done or do you hate to see people being conned? Have you seen any ufo footage that made you think wow whats that!! why do you think meier does it money,fame etcetc
JOOGAL1111 7 months ago
@JOOGAL1111 I did it because no one had done it before and it's about time! iigwest were trying to debunk meier in 2009 and I had acces to the wcufo lids so I told them I would make it. Then it was "in for a penny in for a pound". I was only going to make ther wcufo as a model to prove it was a model but had to do the photos. Then Horn said the hasenbol photos couldn't be done so I did those and knew I had to work out the movies. So I did those too. cont...
Mrmorlam1 7 months ago
@JOOGAL1111 ...cont. The ufo footage in Jerusalem recently was good and a bit wow because there are 3 videos form different ppl at the same time. It can be faked if they all do it on purpose and cgi it later on each footage but I don't know yet. There's some footage over the bbc building in london recently also that got a mention on tv. Meier does it for the living. he hasn't had to "go to work" for a long time now. Everyone mucks in at his farm so he's comfortable. Publishing deals!
Mrmorlam1 7 months ago
@Mrmorlam1 personally i think it started as a joke and he could not believe that people bought it, then it snowballed from there and his confidence grew and his models just got ridiculous and people kept buying it. then he went the whole hog and realised free labour at the farm all the young gullible ufo groupies he could bang form then on they made his excuses for him. Watched contact the pro meier film made in the 70s one thing that struck me (and this is just my opinion) is that people are
JOOGAL1111 7 months ago
are saying how could he do all that with one arm. the man in the movie who,s billys friend and worked on the farm for years you only see him a few times he,s got a big beard is number one suspect in my book. Maybe meier gives him a cut he gets to bang a few groupies who knows his motives.
JOOGAL1111 7 months ago
Kal Korff is the only one claiming to know its a hoax most others switched sides when their futile attempts exactly like yours didnt measure up under CLOSE SCRUTINY.experts say meiers many craft range from 3 to 7 metres.people who are narrow minded cant comprehend the data, they just nit pick any area that aint rock solid without been able to deliberate on the entirety of material.Kal Korff is a loner imprisoned by his belief rather than going on facts, he`s had sites taken down for his deceit
DEBRISTHEREOF 7 months ago
in switzerland people have signed affidavids YOU FOOL!! shows how much YOU know. typical know it all idiot,if you did speak to edgar mitchell you would know he stated " with the meier case you dont even the physical evidence ..the prophetic copyrited releases are enough" indeed enough for anyone who aint thick as a plank i say,so if you think he didnt say this im sure he could state it in an email to you ??? that should be easy for you to do especially if he "didnt say it".
DEBRISTHEREOF 7 months ago
@DEBRISTHEREOF Yes they signed those "thinking" they had witnessed alien demonstrations. That is all. PERHAPS YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE EMAILS I GOT FROM MR. MITCHELL?? He did ask to not be published since he didn't want anything to do with Horn. I couldn't care less if you believe it or not. I must defend my position of course and when ppl like you come along spouting utter rubbish spoon fed to you by Meier I must show others you are wrong. Or they will not realize your mistake.
Mrmorlam1 7 months ago
@Mrmorlam1 in your ignorance you havent a clue that some who witnessed events while investigating meier were ufo investigaters... FIRST YOU "SPOKE TO MITCHELL" NOW ITS BY EMAIL. RUBBISH! yes let everyone see them, because EDGAR MITCHELL is still in the process of studying all availible documents on the case. his position as stated in public is clear! your the only 1 spoon feeding nonsense to people! the experts opinions are clear so WHO THE HELL ARE YOU! people are so lazy they believe your vid
DEBRISTHEREOF 7 months ago
If ANYONE believes for 1 micro second that this nonsense would stand up beside meiers well then send it forward to THEYFLY.COM and collect $10.000, many so called experts have tried, under testing its seen for the rubbish that is.this case is different,look at what the experts are saying like DAVID FRONING ASTRO ENGINEER mcdonnald douglas secret millitary clearance: "my colleagues & i may have made breaktroughs in our understanding of faster than light travel from reading billy meiers accounts"
DEBRISTHEREOF 7 months ago
@DEBRISTHEREOF I already have you idiot! You think they would part with $10000 for a photo??? You are more stupid than I thought.
Mrmorlam1 7 months ago
@Mrmorlam1 JUDGING by your effort theres only one of us truly worthy of the -thick as a fat plank award! and YES is the answer he stated it publicly on coast2coast, i doubt you have sent it & if you have im sure he just laughed at it,THE MONEY IS THERE because theres more than just "a photo" at stake here! do you think your the first person to put forward this sort of attempt?many other people witnessed and pictured the craft over in switzerland! lunar astronaut EDGAR MITCHELL believes billy!
DEBRISTHEREOF 7 months ago
@DEBRISTHEREOF More useless nonsense. EDGAR MITCHELL you say? You don't know I spoke with Edgar Mitchell personally and I assure you he is NOT interested in the case at all. He simply asked Horn for a piece of information and Horn turned it into a fiasco that Mitchell wanted nothing to do with. Get your facts straight you prize winning pratt. I have proof of that directly. No, not "many people witnessed the ufos in Switzerland". you're simply gullible. That is all. Grow up and get out more.
Mrmorlam1 7 months ago
Now all you have to do is debunk the "credible" witnesses - Wendell Stevens would probably be a good place to start? Ive been waiting for someone to show something like this to explain how it was done. But i do find Wendall to be a credible source. My Parents worked for the government and were involved in Top Secrete projects and i know a few things but not much really. I know that some of the "unexplained" UFOs are Military but not all from what i gather
jayssonjohnny 8 months ago
@jayssonjohnny dont fall for this lame attempt... it doesnt measure up to meiers, and meiers was done in the 70s defore photoshop before computers, the special effects crews -the best hollywood has- from independance day say they know fakes and meiers aint fakes! kal korff is a liar and deluded fool, hes had his sites taken dowm many times for threatening peoples lives. michael horn is offering $10.000 to ANYONE to put their attempts up for testing alongside meiers, not one person can do it !
DEBRISTHEREOF 7 months ago
@DEBRISTHEREOF I was totally being a smart-ass to this "disinfo" nutjob. If he would do "all" (not just some) of the research on The Eduard Meires case then he would know that he has not a fuckin clue. But Im not so sure that the operators from these craft are not from -->New Berlin
jayssonjohnny 7 months ago
Nice to find someone else who sees thru this guy. Nice vid
ScalerWave 9 months ago
You make it so obvious that Billy was a trickster, and yet I've had many debates with UFO nuts who cited Billy as their prime evidence for UFO's being 'oh so real---and you just have to believe'.
Thanks for doing what you do!
AtheistToothFairy 10 months ago
@AtheistToothFairy Awesome. Thank you very much.
Mrmorlam1 10 months ago
@AtheistToothFairy dont fall for this rubbish, meier didnt have photoshop in the 70s or computers, theres $10.000 on offer to ANYONE who can reproduce just one of meiers pictuers and put it up alongside meiers for testing, nobody can do it, if you think this sort of thing will stand up.. send it to THEYFLY.COM and see what the experts have to say, wahts there to lose??????
DEBRISTHEREOF 7 months ago
@DEBRISTHEREOF:"dont fall for this rubbish, meier didnt have photoshop in the 70s or computers"
Might I say the same to you, meaning, don't you fall for all these UFO hoaxes, like you seem to be doing so far.
Common sense should tell you that UFO's can't be visitations from Aliens, or they either would have landed and introduced themselves, blown us to pieces, or stayed hidden from sight.
No alien is goint to play Cat&Mouse for decades with us, now are they?
AtheistToothFairy 7 months ago
@AtheistToothFairy what do you mean i fall for ALL THESE HOAX`S, meier is THE only person having ongoin contacts on this planet, people like you ignore the very standards you claim to represent-scientific testing, and there opinion is clear,.as physicist michio kaku says why would they land if they are millenia ahead of us? kaku believes "some ufo`s could be alien visitors" in the meier case its stated that they wanted to start a ufo controversy.
i suggest you dont BELIEVE ANYTHING just STUDY!
DEBRISTHEREOF 7 months ago
@DEBRISTHEREOF:"meier is THE only person having ongoin contacts on this planet"
Meier is a total fraud and you would do well to look at the evidence that clearly demonstrates he is.
Face it, you believe in UFO's and Meier, because you have an emotional reason to do so, but your reason is not based on factual evidence whatsoever.
If you respect Kaku's views because of his stature, then I suggest you watch Neil Degrass Tyson's counter views on UFO's and learn something about evidence
AtheistToothFairy 7 months ago
@AtheistToothFairy actually im well aware of degrass tysons BELIEFS and his stubborness in the face of multible levels of coroberating evidence. not only kaku but scientists across the board are getting on board like kaku. tyson cant comprehend a race being a million yrs ahead, all he sees is the speed of light and the distance.
"evidence that clearly demonstrates he is" all IVE done is state evidence . you stated yourself you dont BELIEVE we can be visited . i hold no such stubborn BELIEF
DEBRISTHEREOF 7 months ago
@DEBRISTHEREOF That's funny! I have sent quite a few photos to theyfly.com and never even got a response concerning them??? You really think anyone there will give $10000 for a stupid photo? I've got many photos that out-rank meiers photos for apparent genuineness. You really think they will admit I "did it"?? You are such a fool! I have never used photoshop and btw Meiers wcufo photos have been "photoshopped" for presentation in case you didn't notice. What a waste of time you are.
Mrmorlam1 7 months ago
Great job.
terrythecensor 10 months ago