Man this is slow regular traffic that L.A. has during the day.. during rush hour,lunch hour or the morning it's a traffic jam you don't even move at all.. just 1 centimeter at a time,and you'll be in the same freeway your on for almost about 3 hours,no bullshit...... so this video here is about the slowest time of traffic you'll be able to get around L.A. without a problem with traffic...
The problem with L.A. is perception. It actually has a dense core that rivals Chicago and San Francisco, but you would never know it because its suburbs are also dense--it all feels like one big massive connected area. This taints perception, and makes people do funny things--like live in Pomona, and commute to West Hollywood, which is fucking insane.
Also, how many ppl are going to spend the time waiting for bus connections in the Los Angeles area if you live in San Bernardino and work in downtown LA? Do people really want to commute with loud, crowded strangers or would you like the privacy of your own vehicle?
The problem with LA is the urban fabric itself is backwards. The streets were all built four times wider than on the east coast, with noticeably larger city blocks. This makes it unpleasant, or nearly impossible to walk anywhere like a grocery store. The city is dominated by very high capacity roads. All the traffic is being induced because people feel like they can drive 50 miles to work. The traffic there will never subside until the incessant driving culture changes.
@RomanV101-Valid point Roman. One only needs to refer to an almanac to view stats of the population growth in LA from 1900-'50 vs that of New York City which was noted as the world's second most populous city after London. Clearly, the two cities people like to compare are vastly different in density, population and sprawl. I mean, NYC and her crumbling, aesthetically unappealing subway stations have problems like LA and her freeways. Just think how NY would choke without subways.
@RomanV101 I get what your saying, and I think the change has already begun (finally). The sprawl has more or less stopped, the city core is densifying, vibrant walkable areas are springing up around the metro stations. Contrary to popular belief though, L.A. does have walkable areas (Hollywood, WeHo, Downtown, Pasadena) loaded with amenities, it's just that, as you said, people out here buy into the stereotype too much and feel they must drive everywhere all the time.
@bohgirl11 I was in Nashville in July and never hit any traffic...seriously, I drove through the downtown area on a Saturday, around noon, in just a few minutes. I'm actually glad there was no traffic, I spend so much time in it up here in New York
And why all this traffic? Because traffic from the Pomona 60, US 101, I-5 and I-10 just collided into each other causing a bottle neck situation..and just when you think the tangled mess of merging would subside...within 1 mile the 110 hits and causes further headache along with 4 lanes shrinking down to 3 and the headache of Hollywood around the bend. Gotta wait 'til after Studio city area to get a small breath of air...before the 134 and 405 cause another issue. Fun! I Honk! Honk!
@blueliner123 Shut up, there are more licensed drivers in Los Angeles alone than there are people in the ENTIRE metro area of Toronto. Really, look it up. The freeways in LA are on a whole just more crowded, coupled with the older design of most freeways with fewer lanes. Also, LA is so spread out that commuters aren't just going into Downtown Los Angeles, rather they travel in both directions. It's a terrible side effect of LA's decentralized makeup. 15 million people in the LA area dude.
@bmbsage your completely wrong with those statistics The 401 is the busiest highway in North America. It's AADT is now in the 450,000 range with an AAST well in excess of 500,000 with close to 600,000 during seasonal peak These are based on 2007 numbers which are no doubt higher now. Here's something to blow your mind at #3 in North America is actually Highway 427 in Toronto. It's 345,000 at its busiest, which is busier than the second busiest highway in the US - Cali route 60 also in L.a.
I saw the map of Los Angeles and it's a huge fucking city. Also these roads are fucking huge!!!!!! In NYC,you don't see roads like that and in NYC,the streets are little.
man when im scheduled to do buisness meetings here in L.A. we always end up canceling them the reason is all this what your'e seeing wow it's insane not only that it gets 100 times worse than that still. LOS ANGELES is a great city though it's just to dam spread out takes forever just to get to destination...
When I first drove into the downtown region of LA, I was just freaked out. The drives are insane. I was driving, and then the driver in front of me started to back up to park into the spot on my right hand side. This all happened in the middle of the street. The motherfucker gave me no warning. I was afraid to honk at him because he's Latino.
Does everyone in the US drives so mellow like this? everything in order, no hard acceleration/braking, cutting off, changing lanes.....people drives like hell here in my country...!
@brostugen Orlando drivers will never make it in LA they will change lanes every 2 or 3 minutes for no reason , cutting off and braking hard. Most people are going 90 mph on a 65-75 mph speed zone on I-4
@brostugen L.A. drivers are much more polite than folks in East Coast cities, who are beyond obnoxious with the fucking honking and the histrionics. They feel like it's their God-given right to act like a living breathing stereotype. Annoying.
In other news today, China opened a HSR line between Beijing and Shanghai. This route however is of similar distance and population as would a corridor between New York and Chicago. In USA's political environment, it is impossible. It took 3 years to complete, one year earlier than the predicted 4 years.
The reason for why LA is so car dominated is because it is located in a earthquake prone zone making dense, multistory buildings impractical. it is for this reason for why the entire region is just pure suburbia.
This isn't rush hour at all. This is normal when you're downtown between the 10 and the 101/110. It's just a typical bottleneck with limited lanes and unlimited cars. It will look like this at all hours of the day. And one more thing, I don't want to hear anymore people try and tell me that Houston is worse. Houston isn't even big enough to be a freaking LA suburb. You Texans have it made with all that open space surrounding your cities.
Alos, fifty to sixty years ago many railroad companies were in bad financial shape with the primary focus on burgeoning air travel. Rail was not encouraged. To web Los Angeles with light rail wouldn't work well at all. What I do notice with Americans is that many of us ride alone when I've looked at other cars. We realize we have bad traffic, but LA is our second largest city and metro area after NYC. Even a much smaller city of D.C has bad traffic. We love our cars!
Aren't you Americans at least a little bit embarrassed that your society is based on cars. When I go to the states I forget who is the dominant life form, humans or cars. I mean even the shape of the cities are built around cars not people. Having an urban agglomeration without even a High Speed rail line is embarrassing.
@Scoinsoffaterocks Americans embarrassed about our cards? We invented them and as Americans we view them as a form of our freedom integral to our national soul. Yes, our cities are terribly car choked. It's not viable a light rail system in Los Angeles metro since her expanse is so vast. THE Y at 405 and 5 up 5 into the 101 to Topanga Canyon Road in Simi Valley is a good 70-80 mile haul. San Bernadino on into the 10 to it's end in Santa Monica must be a good 80 miles.
There is no space to move around, this cramped little box, you have to follow all these rules (necessary mind you), and it may seem fun at first but hours and hours of driving! You wouldn't do heart surgery on yourself then why do you drive yourself,freedom? *stabs heart and dies*
Suburbia = Cars
One can't exist without the other, a horrible western invention in the new world, just plain nasty.
I mean a society BASED on cars ans sprawl. Cars aren't bad at all, you just need to use them right. HSR is for intercity travel, that won't stop sprawl at all. Please refer to this Blog called The Transport Politic and search for Los Angeles. Really good stuff.
I used to live in Orlando completely unaware of it.
I am now living in Toronto where I have recently discovered my passion.
I know, in fact the entire new world is much the same. Try looking at the city of Bogota and Mexico City from space, yikes. And even though china is aggressively investing in public transit, it still can't shake itself off of being the world's fastest growing car market.
Why should americans be embarassed by that? I think they should be proud! I'm not an american, but I would love if the hopless norwegian politicians in my country could invest money to build high standard transportation infrastructure. Logisitic costs are insane in Norway, partly due to bad roads and low speed limits. Americans will make use of the roads also in 75 years, the thing that will change are the engines and energy sources for cars.
Why should americans be embarassed by that? I think they should be proud! I'm not an american, but I would love if the hopless norwegian politicians in my country could invest money to build high standard transportation infrastructure. Logisitic costs are insane in Norway, partly due to bad roads and low speed limits. Americans will make use of the roads also in 75 years, the thing that will change are the engines and energy sources for cars.
@Scoinsoffaterocks It's not because all Americans are stupid and don't want change, it's our government that won't allow it. If everything changes then their power over us will lesson and they'll start to lose money :( It's sad that America is staying in the same place while Japan, China, and other countries are advancing so much :(
I never said all Americans are stupid (considering I grew up there) and I am well aware that the general population has no idea about what is going on BUT there is improvement (the change is little and there is many examples of transit being implemented very wrongly. Read "the Transport Politic" for more details)
@Scoinsoffaterocks Sorry then, but typically europeans ask why the US is so behind europe in public transport and shit like that. So I always tell them that it isn't as easy in the US because it's so much larger...among other reasons.
It has more to do with density (Europe has 1 billion and the States have 300 million) and with age of the cities. Europe has older cities which date before cars were made while most of the States' population was born/came to America post WWII which is when suburbia took control of the New World. Older cities like New York and Boston are denser and could be compared to European cities.
@Scoinsoffaterocks Yeah, and that European countries are smaller anyway, kinda what I was hinting at earlier. Nationwide highspeed rail is more practical in say France than here. The RRs in America are old, and to electrify all 140,000ish miles of track would be quite a project. One that nobody wants to fund overhere.
Well here on the East Coast, there is a lot of transit dependency AND there already is a HSR line CURRENTLY OPERATING IN THE UNITED STATES.
Acela Express is the Upper East Side's High Speed Rail connecting Washington, Baltimore, Philadelphia, New York, Providence, and Boston along with others. Even this needs improvement at it is at risk of being considered true HSR due to its bad service.
@Scoinsoffaterocks Yeah, the Acela is great but old tracks and outdated caternaries limit it's operating speed. I pray the California Highspeed Rail project is successful. It's not that we americans lack the ability to build such things, it's more like we seem to lack the motivation.
@Scoinsoffaterocks high speed rail lines are a huge waste of taxpayer money, the only two lines in the WORLD to break even are the paris-lyon line, and the tokyo-osaka line. Why in the hell should LA taxpayers finance an unprofitable rail line that will cause further construction and with constructions comes, what do you know, traffic.
Profitable? HSR isn't a product to sale, transportation is in no means a product to sale. Cars on the other hand use disproportionate amounts of resources as compared to mass transit which does save money. Mass transit also encourages dense develoment which also saves money. A penny saved is a penny earned (however we talking about pennies here...) Americans only pay for 48% of the total cost of a car dominated society, the rest is subsidized.
A bigger waste of taxpayers money is highways, airports, oil, and the suburban life which is a direct product of car dominated societies. Suburban life also has its various cons which are too numerous to say in this comment. Transit oriented development is obviously transit oriented, DUH! In New York, a transit dominated city, 58% of all households don't have cars. The majority that do only use it for vacations. With emerging technologies such as car share, the number will go down even more.
@Scoinsoffaterocks since when does the United States government directly pour taxpayer dollars into airports, oil, and suburban life? huh? Cars were a brilliant invention that allowed people to get places quickly without having to shove up next to someone on a rail line/subway. Are you advocating to restrict/limit the use of cars in a country that prides itself on its automobiles? Sorry but i can speak for here in LA in saying that car use here will NEVER go down, this city was built around
Well according to the US debt clock I can clearly see that the suburban life is too much to handle.Who do you think laid down all the houses, the pipes, the wires, the land cleared aside, and the ultimate construction of the houses and roads that create the suburb.Yes a transit oriented neighborhood also needs these thing but in smaller quantities and shorter distances that make them more efficient and therefore less money. LA was built around cars because it is earthquake prone BUT it is dense.
@adventuretime77 cars, around the individual, around the freedom to get into your car and drive where you want. Your country of Canada is obviously going to be different seeing as how your loyal to the UK, where car use is heavily restricted/ discouraged. But not here. Never here.
There is nothing wrong with cars, they are actually a good invention. The problem I have is car-oriented societies like the ones that plague the US, Canada, Australia,and New Zealand (the English speaking new world). Suburbia is a settlement built at the scale of cars and not of people. It is impossible to walk to the nearest Walmart or school or grocery store unless you live right next to it, you always have to drive wherever you want to go.
@Scoinsoffaterocks I really hope you're not Canadian, or else you just embarrassed a lot of us. Ever heard of Toronto? I bet the people there are pretty damn dependent on cars. By the way, New Yorkers are famous for walking everywhere, most of them don't even own cars.
Why should they be embarrassed about it? Some of their road junctions are marvels of engineering and economic prosperity. If you hate them so much don't visit! Some of us Canadians complain too damn much! I dream of visiting L.A!
Please read the entire thread before babbling about. If you go to "see all" comments and click the "Sort by thread (beta)" you can see that I DON'T ACTUALLY HATE CARS nor am I CANADIAN!!!
@Scoinsoffaterocks funny thing is on your profile you list your country as Canada, & you wrote this: "Actually Canada is much the same as USA. Scoinsoffaterocks 6 days ago "
You're actually right, they are similar, but don't mislead people, they check profiles first.
And I didn't accuse you of hating cars, I accused you of hating American society. Everybody rags on them for eating too much, driving too much, blah blah blah, well guess what? They're still the most powerful country in the world!
Once again, check the thread. I clearly wrote that I grew up in America although I am currently living in Canada. I am only 14 and here are the places I lived.
Colombia - 4
USA - 9.5
Canada - 2
I grew up an American boy in a very isolated suburb of Orlando, FL and as a result, I self identify myself American.
It is only here in Toronto where I found my passion, New Urbanism and Transit. It was here that I completely cursed my old lifestyle but that does not mean I hate my homeland.
@Scoinsoffaterocks you do understand that America was the first country to have a full highway system. When cities were still developing, the highway made more job connections, which made it easier to commute too. European cities are older and more crowded. To me, a high speed rail would be a waste. 1. There's no room 2. It would mean the abandonment of thousands of miles of highway and the automobile shaped America. All we need are eco-friendly cars.
I feel and unbelievable amount of guilt knowing I lived in the most suburban land in the world: central Florida. Nine long years of my 15 year old life has been in ignorance. Such a shame. It hurts me every time I look at Florida through Google Earth, just painful to watch. You should check out my old home on Google Earth. It's in a place called Union Park.
I love freedom and space too, don't get me wrong. A transit oriented community isn't exactly supposed to be a dinky smelly apartment in Brooklyn. In fact, it the exact opposite. New Urbanism for America is a place where everyone lives in high-rises surrounded by large tracts of parks and land. New Urbanism is an extension of the Green Movement. Here are some examples:
@Scoinsoffaterocks It's not that way in all large cities in America, you have to remember that. Los Angeles is VERY dependent on its cars, and from what I've heard, very few people ride the bus there (in relation to the population there!) It's much less that way in New York and other large US cities.
@Scoinsoffaterocks It's also interesting that you're in Canada, which has Toronto, which has the biggest and most congested freeway in North America, the 401. The traffic count on that tops even the highest in Los Angeles. Were you aware of that?? :):)
the 401 is not the most congested, but it has the highest traffic count per day which is 450,000 i-10 in LA is close to this around 400,000 to 425,000 per day.. next is i-45 in houston texas which is close to 400,000 perday.... But the 401 is not the most congested not at all, it just has high lane counts and more vehicles traveling it per day.
the 401 is not the most congested, but it has the highest traffic count per day which is 450,000 i-10 in LA is close to this around 400,000 to 425,000 per day.. next is i-45 in houston texas which is close to 400,000 perday.... But the 401 is not the most congested not at all, it just has high lane counts and more vehicles traveling it per day.
correcting Santa monica in LA and i-10 in houston... sorry..
ARRGHH! 4:17! On the very right! I HATE it when people get right on my bumper! It absolutely drives me bananas! LOL!!! I wish people didn't feel the need to do that.
It's extremely unpleasant walking there, the streets are too wide, and all the cars make it noisy- not to mention the vast distance between the housing and commerce. People have a tenancy to "live" according to the surrounding built environment that exists. In American cities, pedestrians are a second class by the very scale and layout of everything. You're required to drive and maintain a car, or pay exorbitant rent to live in one of the rare urban enclaves like Boston.
@Scoinsoffaterocks Our cities are not as old as say Europe, our Cities were built on the Automobile, it is true, and it is very hard to reverse something like that, and if gasoline prices were to go as high as in many parts of Europe, it would completely cripple our transportation grid.
I know all about it. What you said is slightly wrong. There is car culture in the East and both San Francisco and Oregon cities are going TOD. I think what you meant to say was the North-East and Midwest large cities. All the smaller cities and suburbs are just as car-oriented.
@Scoinsoffaterocks If you are from Canada, then I'm surprised your making a big deal about it. I'm a Canadian myself and Toronto is just the same with freeways everywhere (the GO train is slow, expensive, and can be out of the way pending on where you live). Montreal has crap load of freeways too. Vancouver is an exception but can experience inner city grid lock for long periods of time. Via rail is simply inefficient.
@Scoinsoffaterocks NO! Cars to Americans are like apple pie and Thankgiving and an integral part of our mindset. Despite the choking jams due to growth, cars represent freedom to go, like a flying bird. Keep in mind, 50-60 years ago the "take-off" of air travel with railroads largely bankrupt given the desire for us to buy cars due to an expansive powerhouse economy post WW2. We thought the future was the car so therefore given how massive LA region is in area, we built freeways in '40's/50's.
I'm an American, to me cars are just boxes on wheels. Los Angeles is just a cancerous growth of 8 lane motorways. A place designed to maximize traffic volume. How are they "free" when they must drive because nothing is built to human scale?
@RomanV101 Yes, one can debate the aesthetic beauty of concrete freeways ringed throughout Los Angeles and our cities. I was referring to the American spirit of driving. Obviously, nobody I know loves to be in bumper to bumper especially in LA basin. Now, can you imagine getting around Los Angeles if the freeways were never built? Obviously., there is now awareness of the environmental impact and congestion but how many ppl are really willing to give up their car?
@Scoinsoffaterocks Also, how much more populated is America than Canada. Yes, we clearly realize our major cities have horrendous traffic problems, but these probs will not get addressed overnight due to the various aspects of economic/social/financial impact as the best way to alleviate this infrastucture problem. Maybe if my country cut all foreign aid, we could address our peoples' problems instead of caring whether a Saudi woman can drive a car. BTW, have you ever driven in this LA mess?
@Scoinsoffaterocks Besides, even if they could add another four lanes going in each direction which as one can see is impossible, it wouldn't solve the problem but have more people drive into it.
2 subway lines, 3 light rail lines, 2 bus rapid transit and a whole lot of individual bus agencies. Although this may sound good, it is from from it and public transit is not a convenient form of transportation in the urban agglomeration. Please visit, the Transport Politic for more details.
The Greater Los Angeles Urban Agglomeration (including the Inland Empire) is just an incredibly huge grey blob. You just have to see the area on Google Earth, you just have to see it. It blew my mind first time I saw it.
Here is a short comparison.
Greater New York:
6,720 sq. mi.
18,897,109 people
Greater Los Angeles:
33,954 sq mi
17,786,419 people
But do not dismay, LA is an excellent transit market and has VERY big transit ambitions.
I also forgot to mention that there are currently 46, yes 46, public transit operators currently operating in the area. The Los Angeles County Metropolitan Transportation Authority (locally known as just Metro) has very a very clean modern system with a beautiful modern fleet of buses.
It operates many creative (and colour coded services):
Metro Local (California Poppy, a shade of orange) have frequent stops
17.4 miles of subway on two lines, Metro Red & Metro Purple. Metro Purple has yet to be extended to Santa Monica on a very dense, extremely traffic congested route, practically begging for a subway. The only problem is the cost... (the route is 12 miles completely underground)
61.7 miles of light rail on 3 lines: Metro Blue, Green, & Gold.
There is currently a plan to completely cover the city in a web of light rail with over 7 new lines, and hundreds of miles of extensions.
There is MetroLiner which is a fancy way of saying Bus Rapid Transit (MetroRail is used to refer to the subway and light rail routes which Metro operates) There are currently 40 miles of BRT operating on two new line, opened in 2005 and 2009. The Orange Line (which has extension both already under construction and those still in planning) and the Silver Line. Silver Line operates on a transit-way owned by Metro that runs right down the middle of the highway. It is also used by other bus routes.
@Wonfish2fish HOUSTON HA!!!!! HOUSTON is nowhere near comperd to the L.A. area this ain't even rush hour traffic this is considered smooth traffic compred during thr real rush hour traffic cars back to back and you're not even moving at all takes about me 4 1/2 hours to get home when i'm driving in rush hour traffic.. iv'e been to HOUSTON and the traffic there is nowhere near comparable to what L.A. has..
Driving these freeways can be intense. As one will notice, the infrastructure is crumbling due to it's being 55-60 years old. With a green meter light-GO until you see the red lights. Your music made it soothing! Actually, the size of that metro area is amazing! Reminds me of Miami and NYC traffic.
I saw this in The Weather Channel,that the wintertime temps in LA is in the 70's.Since I'm from NYC,it astonishes me,because that temperature in NYC is in the summertime.How's the summer in LA?
@98bigbutt It can be cool (60s) from the coast inland a few miles, esp during the "June Gloom", 80s farther inland, 100+ in the valleys and deserts, and 70s in the mountains. All on the same day, and all within a 75 mile radius of the "Metroplex".
Winter was always my favorite time of the year in SoCal. Mild days (like May in NYC), blue skies or partly cloudy most days, a little rain occasionally (a lot sometimes), snow on the mountains, everything in bloom, green foothills, and no smog.
This reminds me of the Long Island Expressway...always heavy traffic heading into NYC...although the worst highway is the Cross Bronx! (anyone from New York will tell you that the Cross Bronx is the worst highway in NYC)
10w passing cal state la, passing the 5 juncture, onto the east LA interchange (10/101/5/110) passing la county jail, la times, union station, city hall, walt disney music center, passing rampart, wilshire going to hollywood?
@volcom1722 Well, traffic is heavy mostly because Los Angeles is the most populous city in California, with over 3 million people, and there are lots of businesses as well. The staples center in LA holds sports games such as basketball and hockey so I wouldn't be surprised if fans were on the road. But other than that, I don't know about people in front of traffic my best guess is that they are just people who don't know how to drive.
Hoje eu dei um role em L.A aqui do Brasil !
CchuCcky 2 days ago
I love the music, where can I find it? it makes the traffic disappear ;)
Ashley726 6 days ago
Los angeles is a gorgeous place
sturzynski 2 weeks ago
This looks exactly like the long Island Expressway going through Queens to get into Manhattan..............Sucks!
robbie2737 1 month ago
The answer is to use the train, bus or metro.
alanheath 1 month ago 3
Just what I want. Sit most of my life in traffic.
shafe44 1 month ago
The 405 at the Getty museum and the 101 interchange is a bitch!
Herokid32 2 months ago
Man this is slow regular traffic that L.A. has during the day.. during rush hour,lunch hour or the morning it's a traffic jam you don't even move at all.. just 1 centimeter at a time,and you'll be in the same freeway your on for almost about 3 hours,no bullshit...... so this video here is about the slowest time of traffic you'll be able to get around L.A. without a problem with traffic...
1skylinedreamz 2 months ago
Seems like another day on I-35E in Dallas
onionofdeath 2 months ago
Believe that there's 2 many cars if u g2 downtown L.A. But still I love it here n I'm never going 2 move from here (2 live n die in L.A!)
Rock17392 2 months ago
Ok. Thanks for sharing that with us.
shafe44 1 month ago
boring
royvank 2 months ago
borring
royvank 2 months ago
Melbourne Australia is worse, so is Sydney, during peak times anyway.
thejase350 3 months ago
Thats not a bad day of traffic for that area.
Katoosha2006 3 months ago
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hundhun17 3 months ago
The problem with L.A. is perception. It actually has a dense core that rivals Chicago and San Francisco, but you would never know it because its suburbs are also dense--it all feels like one big massive connected area. This taints perception, and makes people do funny things--like live in Pomona, and commute to West Hollywood, which is fucking insane.
TheBrainMachine78 3 months ago 9
@TheBrainMachine78 ha, you described me exactly.
osiitapolar 3 weeks ago
@TheBrainMachine78 That's true. My aunt works with someone who commutes from Palmdale down to San Pedro.
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jasonsunam 4 months ago
Also, how many ppl are going to spend the time waiting for bus connections in the Los Angeles area if you live in San Bernardino and work in downtown LA? Do people really want to commute with loud, crowded strangers or would you like the privacy of your own vehicle?
OSTARAEB4 5 months ago
@OSTARAEB4
The problem with LA is the urban fabric itself is backwards. The streets were all built four times wider than on the east coast, with noticeably larger city blocks. This makes it unpleasant, or nearly impossible to walk anywhere like a grocery store. The city is dominated by very high capacity roads. All the traffic is being induced because people feel like they can drive 50 miles to work. The traffic there will never subside until the incessant driving culture changes.
RomanV101 5 months ago
@RomanV101-Valid point Roman. One only needs to refer to an almanac to view stats of the population growth in LA from 1900-'50 vs that of New York City which was noted as the world's second most populous city after London. Clearly, the two cities people like to compare are vastly different in density, population and sprawl. I mean, NYC and her crumbling, aesthetically unappealing subway stations have problems like LA and her freeways. Just think how NY would choke without subways.
OSTARAEB4 5 months ago
@RomanV101 I get what your saying, and I think the change has already begun (finally). The sprawl has more or less stopped, the city core is densifying, vibrant walkable areas are springing up around the metro stations. Contrary to popular belief though, L.A. does have walkable areas (Hollywood, WeHo, Downtown, Pasadena) loaded with amenities, it's just that, as you said, people out here buy into the stereotype too much and feel they must drive everywhere all the time.
TheBrainMachine78 3 months ago
It's my dream to go to California one day. For now, I'm stuck on this island called Australia. Such a pathetic excuse for a country, it is.
Mrwaffles33 5 months ago
In Nashville, I was in a traffic jam for four hours on my way to a Predators game, I guess four hours is nothing compared to other traffic jams.
bohgirl11 5 months ago
@bohgirl11 I was in Nashville in July and never hit any traffic...seriously, I drove through the downtown area on a Saturday, around noon, in just a few minutes. I'm actually glad there was no traffic, I spend so much time in it up here in New York
seansanders93 4 months ago
I's rather motorcycle here than in the Pyrenees.
MrTheMercury 5 months ago
And why all this traffic? Because traffic from the Pomona 60, US 101, I-5 and I-10 just collided into each other causing a bottle neck situation..and just when you think the tangled mess of merging would subside...within 1 mile the 110 hits and causes further headache along with 4 lanes shrinking down to 3 and the headache of Hollywood around the bend. Gotta wait 'til after Studio city area to get a small breath of air...before the 134 and 405 cause another issue. Fun! I Honk! Honk!
Planetcharr 5 months ago
401*** not 4022 sorry as well as QEW 407 403 many large higways in CANADA
blueliner123 6 months ago
this is fine in toronto CANADA on the 4022 its 16 lanes and u just stop 4 hours!!! this is nothing
blueliner123 6 months ago
@blueliner123 Shut up, there are more licensed drivers in Los Angeles alone than there are people in the ENTIRE metro area of Toronto. Really, look it up. The freeways in LA are on a whole just more crowded, coupled with the older design of most freeways with fewer lanes. Also, LA is so spread out that commuters aren't just going into Downtown Los Angeles, rather they travel in both directions. It's a terrible side effect of LA's decentralized makeup. 15 million people in the LA area dude.
phillyslasher 5 months ago
Perfect camera posision
perfect highway/freeway
perfect music
all in all great vid
chris31064 6 months ago
@bmbsage your completely wrong with those statistics The 401 is the busiest highway in North America. It's AADT is now in the 450,000 range with an AAST well in excess of 500,000 with close to 600,000 during seasonal peak These are based on 2007 numbers which are no doubt higher now. Here's something to blow your mind at #3 in North America is actually Highway 427 in Toronto. It's 345,000 at its busiest, which is busier than the second busiest highway in the US - Cali route 60 also in L.a.
baller201 6 months ago
thanks a lot for the video, i really miss L.A with traffic or without.
txanok 6 months ago
This isn't heavy traffic. If u really want to see heavy traffic, go to the 405 near the Getty museum.
Herokid32 6 months ago
I saw the map of Los Angeles and it's a huge fucking city. Also these roads are fucking huge!!!!!! In NYC,you don't see roads like that and in NYC,the streets are little.
98bigbutt 6 months ago
401 toronto canada is like this all day! toronto is much worse at least u r moving in toronto u just stop 4 hours sometimes!
blueliner123 6 months ago
man when im scheduled to do buisness meetings here in L.A. we always end up canceling them the reason is all this what your'e seeing wow it's insane not only that it gets 100 times worse than that still. LOS ANGELES is a great city though it's just to dam spread out takes forever just to get to destination...
1skylinedreamz 6 months ago
Thanks for the ride! But what a nightmarish scene. A vast, sprawling city with not one human being in sight.
localdriver 7 months ago
I will visit this city one day thank you from Saudi Arabia
sami7444 7 months ago
Cool video but next time try to find a way to edit out the wind noise! :) hehe
tall32guy 7 months ago
When I first drove into the downtown region of LA, I was just freaked out. The drives are insane. I was driving, and then the driver in front of me started to back up to park into the spot on my right hand side. This all happened in the middle of the street. The motherfucker gave me no warning. I was afraid to honk at him because he's Latino.
ttiiyy 7 months ago
Does everyone in the US drives so mellow like this? everything in order, no hard acceleration/braking, cutting off, changing lanes.....people drives like hell here in my country...!
brostugen 8 months ago
@brostugen Orlando drivers will never make it in LA they will change lanes every 2 or 3 minutes for no reason , cutting off and braking hard. Most people are going 90 mph on a 65-75 mph speed zone on I-4
ryanmattedu 8 months ago
@brostugen L.A. drivers are much more polite than folks in East Coast cities, who are beyond obnoxious with the fucking honking and the histrionics. They feel like it's their God-given right to act like a living breathing stereotype. Annoying.
TheBrainMachine78 3 months ago
In other news today, China opened a HSR line between Beijing and Shanghai. This route however is of similar distance and population as would a corridor between New York and Chicago. In USA's political environment, it is impossible. It took 3 years to complete, one year earlier than the predicted 4 years.
Scoinsoffaterocks 8 months ago
The reason for why LA is so car dominated is because it is located in a earthquake prone zone making dense, multistory buildings impractical. it is for this reason for why the entire region is just pure suburbia.
Scoinsoffaterocks 8 months ago
This isn't rush hour at all. This is normal when you're downtown between the 10 and the 101/110. It's just a typical bottleneck with limited lanes and unlimited cars. It will look like this at all hours of the day. And one more thing, I don't want to hear anymore people try and tell me that Houston is worse. Houston isn't even big enough to be a freaking LA suburb. You Texans have it made with all that open space surrounding your cities.
phillyslasher 8 months ago
@Mollineaxx 55 Miles per hour. But everyone goes about 65-75 to the speed of traffic
LivingSkits 8 months ago
Alos, fifty to sixty years ago many railroad companies were in bad financial shape with the primary focus on burgeoning air travel. Rail was not encouraged. To web Los Angeles with light rail wouldn't work well at all. What I do notice with Americans is that many of us ride alone when I've looked at other cars. We realize we have bad traffic, but LA is our second largest city and metro area after NYC. Even a much smaller city of D.C has bad traffic. We love our cars!
OSTARAEB4 9 months ago
Aren't you Americans at least a little bit embarrassed that your society is based on cars. When I go to the states I forget who is the dominant life form, humans or cars. I mean even the shape of the cities are built around cars not people. Having an urban agglomeration without even a High Speed rail line is embarrassing.
Scoinsoffaterocks 9 months ago 8
@Scoinsoffaterocks Americans embarrassed about our cards? We invented them and as Americans we view them as a form of our freedom integral to our national soul. Yes, our cities are terribly car choked. It's not viable a light rail system in Los Angeles metro since her expanse is so vast. THE Y at 405 and 5 up 5 into the 101 to Topanga Canyon Road in Simi Valley is a good 70-80 mile haul. San Bernadino on into the 10 to it's end in Santa Monica must be a good 80 miles.
OSTARAEB4 9 months ago
@OSTARAEB4
It is as if it was carved in stone in head.
Freedom!?!?!?!!?!?
There is NO FREEDOM IN CARS.
There is no space to move around, this cramped little box, you have to follow all these rules (necessary mind you), and it may seem fun at first but hours and hours of driving! You wouldn't do heart surgery on yourself then why do you drive yourself,freedom? *stabs heart and dies*
Suburbia = Cars
One can't exist without the other, a horrible western invention in the new world, just plain nasty.
Scoinsoffaterocks 9 months ago
@Scoinsoffaterocks oh shut up most counties have catd and high speed rail tell china that you ass hole
keithjohnson20988 9 months ago
@keithjohnson20988
The article is called:
Los Angeles Has Big Transit Ambitions, But Which Project Comes First?
Scoinsoffaterocks 9 months ago
@Scoinsoffaterocks oh shut up most counties have cars and high speed rail tell china that you ass hole
keithjohnson20988 9 months ago
@keithjohnson20988
....
That is not my point.
I mean a society BASED on cars ans sprawl. Cars aren't bad at all, you just need to use them right. HSR is for intercity travel, that won't stop sprawl at all. Please refer to this Blog called The Transport Politic and search for Los Angeles. Really good stuff.
I am not saying cars are evil, not at all.
Scoinsoffaterocks 9 months ago
@Scoinsoffaterocks That's not America, that's California. Try New York or Chicago. LA is car city.
Also Canada is not exactly much better. And Australia, my country, it's cities tend to be based around cars too.
mornnb 9 months ago
@mornnb
I used to live in Orlando completely unaware of it.
I am now living in Toronto where I have recently discovered my passion.
I know, in fact the entire new world is much the same. Try looking at the city of Bogota and Mexico City from space, yikes. And even though china is aggressively investing in public transit, it still can't shake itself off of being the world's fastest growing car market.
Scoinsoffaterocks 9 months ago
@Scoinsoffaterocks
Why should americans be embarassed by that? I think they should be proud! I'm not an american, but I would love if the hopless norwegian politicians in my country could invest money to build high standard transportation infrastructure. Logisitic costs are insane in Norway, partly due to bad roads and low speed limits. Americans will make use of the roads also in 75 years, the thing that will change are the engines and energy sources for cars.
nor32 9 months ago
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@Scoinsoffaterocks
Why should americans be embarassed by that? I think they should be proud! I'm not an american, but I would love if the hopless norwegian politicians in my country could invest money to build high standard transportation infrastructure. Logisitic costs are insane in Norway, partly due to bad roads and low speed limits. Americans will make use of the roads also in 75 years, the thing that will change are the engines and energy sources for cars.
nor32 9 months ago
@Scoinsoffaterocks It's not because all Americans are stupid and don't want change, it's our government that won't allow it. If everything changes then their power over us will lesson and they'll start to lose money :( It's sad that America is staying in the same place while Japan, China, and other countries are advancing so much :(
LivingSkits 8 months ago
@LivingSkits
I never said all Americans are stupid (considering I grew up there) and I am well aware that the general population has no idea about what is going on BUT there is improvement (the change is little and there is many examples of transit being implemented very wrongly. Read "the Transport Politic" for more details)
Scoinsoffaterocks 8 months ago
@Scoinsoffaterocks Well Europe is the size of my front yard, of course you guys don't have to have cars.
phillyslasher 8 months ago
@phillyslasher
I am not European nor did I understand what you just said...
Scoinsoffaterocks 8 months ago
@Scoinsoffaterocks Sorry then, but typically europeans ask why the US is so behind europe in public transport and shit like that. So I always tell them that it isn't as easy in the US because it's so much larger...among other reasons.
phillyslasher 8 months ago
@phillyslasher
The US is not larger than Europe...
US: 3,794,101 mi^2
Europe: 3,930,000 mi^2
It has more to do with density (Europe has 1 billion and the States have 300 million) and with age of the cities. Europe has older cities which date before cars were made while most of the States' population was born/came to America post WWII which is when suburbia took control of the New World. Older cities like New York and Boston are denser and could be compared to European cities.
Scoinsoffaterocks 8 months ago
@Scoinsoffaterocks Yeah, and that European countries are smaller anyway, kinda what I was hinting at earlier. Nationwide highspeed rail is more practical in say France than here. The RRs in America are old, and to electrify all 140,000ish miles of track would be quite a project. One that nobody wants to fund overhere.
phillyslasher 8 months ago
@phillyslasher
Well here on the East Coast, there is a lot of transit dependency AND there already is a HSR line CURRENTLY OPERATING IN THE UNITED STATES.
Acela Express is the Upper East Side's High Speed Rail connecting Washington, Baltimore, Philadelphia, New York, Providence, and Boston along with others. Even this needs improvement at it is at risk of being considered true HSR due to its bad service.
Scoinsoffaterocks 8 months ago
@Scoinsoffaterocks Yeah, the Acela is great but old tracks and outdated caternaries limit it's operating speed. I pray the California Highspeed Rail project is successful. It's not that we americans lack the ability to build such things, it's more like we seem to lack the motivation.
phillyslasher 8 months ago
@Scoinsoffaterocks high speed rail lines are a huge waste of taxpayer money, the only two lines in the WORLD to break even are the paris-lyon line, and the tokyo-osaka line. Why in the hell should LA taxpayers finance an unprofitable rail line that will cause further construction and with constructions comes, what do you know, traffic.
adventuretime77 8 months ago
@adventuretime77
That did not make any sense...
Profitable? HSR isn't a product to sale, transportation is in no means a product to sale. Cars on the other hand use disproportionate amounts of resources as compared to mass transit which does save money. Mass transit also encourages dense develoment which also saves money. A penny saved is a penny earned (however we talking about pennies here...) Americans only pay for 48% of the total cost of a car dominated society, the rest is subsidized.
Scoinsoffaterocks 8 months ago
A bigger waste of taxpayers money is highways, airports, oil, and the suburban life which is a direct product of car dominated societies. Suburban life also has its various cons which are too numerous to say in this comment. Transit oriented development is obviously transit oriented, DUH! In New York, a transit dominated city, 58% of all households don't have cars. The majority that do only use it for vacations. With emerging technologies such as car share, the number will go down even more.
Scoinsoffaterocks 8 months ago
@Scoinsoffaterocks since when does the United States government directly pour taxpayer dollars into airports, oil, and suburban life? huh? Cars were a brilliant invention that allowed people to get places quickly without having to shove up next to someone on a rail line/subway. Are you advocating to restrict/limit the use of cars in a country that prides itself on its automobiles? Sorry but i can speak for here in LA in saying that car use here will NEVER go down, this city was built around
adventuretime77 8 months ago
Well according to the US debt clock I can clearly see that the suburban life is too much to handle.Who do you think laid down all the houses, the pipes, the wires, the land cleared aside, and the ultimate construction of the houses and roads that create the suburb.Yes a transit oriented neighborhood also needs these thing but in smaller quantities and shorter distances that make them more efficient and therefore less money. LA was built around cars because it is earthquake prone BUT it is dense.
Scoinsoffaterocks 8 months ago
@adventuretime77 cars, around the individual, around the freedom to get into your car and drive where you want. Your country of Canada is obviously going to be different seeing as how your loyal to the UK, where car use is heavily restricted/ discouraged. But not here. Never here.
adventuretime77 8 months ago
There is nothing wrong with cars, they are actually a good invention. The problem I have is car-oriented societies like the ones that plague the US, Canada, Australia,and New Zealand (the English speaking new world). Suburbia is a settlement built at the scale of cars and not of people. It is impossible to walk to the nearest Walmart or school or grocery store unless you live right next to it, you always have to drive wherever you want to go.
Actually Canada is much the same as USA.
Scoinsoffaterocks 8 months ago
@Scoinsoffaterocks I really hope you're not Canadian, or else you just embarrassed a lot of us. Ever heard of Toronto? I bet the people there are pretty damn dependent on cars. By the way, New Yorkers are famous for walking everywhere, most of them don't even own cars.
Why should they be embarrassed about it? Some of their road junctions are marvels of engineering and economic prosperity. If you hate them so much don't visit! Some of us Canadians complain too damn much! I dream of visiting L.A!
wawahwario 8 months ago
@wawahwario
Please read the entire thread before babbling about. If you go to "see all" comments and click the "Sort by thread (beta)" you can see that I DON'T ACTUALLY HATE CARS nor am I CANADIAN!!!
Scoinsoffaterocks 8 months ago
@Scoinsoffaterocks funny thing is on your profile you list your country as Canada, & you wrote this: "Actually Canada is much the same as USA. Scoinsoffaterocks 6 days ago "
You're actually right, they are similar, but don't mislead people, they check profiles first.
And I didn't accuse you of hating cars, I accused you of hating American society. Everybody rags on them for eating too much, driving too much, blah blah blah, well guess what? They're still the most powerful country in the world!
wawahwario 8 months ago 2
@wawahwario
Once again, check the thread. I clearly wrote that I grew up in America although I am currently living in Canada. I am only 14 and here are the places I lived.
Colombia - 4
USA - 9.5
Canada - 2
I grew up an American boy in a very isolated suburb of Orlando, FL and as a result, I self identify myself American.
It is only here in Toronto where I found my passion, New Urbanism and Transit. It was here that I completely cursed my old lifestyle but that does not mean I hate my homeland.
Scoinsoffaterocks 8 months ago
@Scoinsoffaterocks you do understand that America was the first country to have a full highway system. When cities were still developing, the highway made more job connections, which made it easier to commute too. European cities are older and more crowded. To me, a high speed rail would be a waste. 1. There's no room 2. It would mean the abandonment of thousands of miles of highway and the automobile shaped America. All we need are eco-friendly cars.
Indestructible229 8 months ago
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lala567ize 8 months ago
@lala567ize
???
Do I know you from somewhere?
Scoinsoffaterocks 8 months ago
@Scoinsoffaterocks Americans like there space and freedom to go. Orlando is built around cars to.
ryanmattedu 8 months ago
@ryanmattedu
I feel and unbelievable amount of guilt knowing I lived in the most suburban land in the world: central Florida. Nine long years of my 15 year old life has been in ignorance. Such a shame. It hurts me every time I look at Florida through Google Earth, just painful to watch. You should check out my old home on Google Earth. It's in a place called Union Park.
28°33'20.89"N
81°14'3.00"W
Scoinsoffaterocks 8 months ago
@ryanmattedu
I love freedom and space too, don't get me wrong. A transit oriented community isn't exactly supposed to be a dinky smelly apartment in Brooklyn. In fact, it the exact opposite. New Urbanism for America is a place where everyone lives in high-rises surrounded by large tracts of parks and land. New Urbanism is an extension of the Green Movement. Here are some examples:
/watch?v=bEQiNXXgu4g
/watch?v=X-tMOQTn4Y0
/watch?v=orI3WMBRn-I
/watch?v=A7qVAeR74bQ
Scoinsoffaterocks 8 months ago
@Scoinsoffaterocks It's not that way in all large cities in America, you have to remember that. Los Angeles is VERY dependent on its cars, and from what I've heard, very few people ride the bus there (in relation to the population there!) It's much less that way in New York and other large US cities.
tall32guy 7 months ago
@Scoinsoffaterocks It's also interesting that you're in Canada, which has Toronto, which has the biggest and most congested freeway in North America, the 401. The traffic count on that tops even the highest in Los Angeles. Were you aware of that?? :):)
tall32guy 7 months ago
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@tall32guy
Yeah...
There is a reason for why it is known as the world's largest parking lot.
Scoinsoffaterocks 7 months ago
@tall32guy
the 401 is not the most congested, but it has the highest traffic count per day which is 450,000 i-10 in LA is close to this around 400,000 to 425,000 per day.. next is i-45 in houston texas which is close to 400,000 perday.... But the 401 is not the most congested not at all, it just has high lane counts and more vehicles traveling it per day.
bmbsage 6 months ago
@tall32guy
the 401 is not the most congested, but it has the highest traffic count per day which is 450,000 i-10 in LA is close to this around 400,000 to 425,000 per day.. next is i-45 in houston texas which is close to 400,000 perday.... But the 401 is not the most congested not at all, it just has high lane counts and more vehicles traveling it per day.
correcting Santa monica in LA and i-10 in houston... sorry..
bmbsage 6 months ago
ARRGHH! 4:17! On the very right! I HATE it when people get right on my bumper! It absolutely drives me bananas! LOL!!! I wish people didn't feel the need to do that.
tall32guy 7 months ago
@tall32guy
Why did that appear in my comment response?
Scoinsoffaterocks 7 months ago
@Scoinsoffaterocks Which one? The one about Hwy 401 or the one about LA being dependent on cars? LOL
tall32guy 7 months ago
@Scoinsoffaterocks dude. your from Canada, not Africa.
Wopperwane123321 7 months ago 9
@Wopperwane123321
???
What makes you say that?
Scoinsoffaterocks 7 months ago
@Scoinsoffaterocks
You are Canadian. You should know that Toronto is actually a lot worse than this. It is a fact.
sega31098 7 months ago in playlist los angeles
@Scoinsoffaterocks And you cant o nothing about it too! :( I love this place man, dont say neg stuff pleaseee
a1malik 7 months ago
@a1malik
Yeah, OK...
Scoinsoffaterocks 7 months ago
@Scoinsoffaterocks
It's extremely unpleasant walking there, the streets are too wide, and all the cars make it noisy- not to mention the vast distance between the housing and commerce. People have a tenancy to "live" according to the surrounding built environment that exists. In American cities, pedestrians are a second class by the very scale and layout of everything. You're required to drive and maintain a car, or pay exorbitant rent to live in one of the rare urban enclaves like Boston.
RomanV101 6 months ago
@RomanV101
Tell me about it, I lived in Union Park Florida just on the fringes of Eastern Orlando...
Scoinsoffaterocks 6 months ago
@Scoinsoffaterocks like its different in canada
HBK1337 6 months ago
@HBK1337
Its not...
Sincerely, a Canadian American.
Scoinsoffaterocks 6 months ago
@Scoinsoffaterocks Our cities are not as old as say Europe, our Cities were built on the Automobile, it is true, and it is very hard to reverse something like that, and if gasoline prices were to go as high as in many parts of Europe, it would completely cripple our transportation grid.
FlamingLavaOwl 6 months ago
@Scoinsoffaterocks Its called car culture. Its how the west was built. If you look at the east coast its very different.
Cozybop 5 months ago
@Cozybop
I know all about it. What you said is slightly wrong. There is car culture in the East and both San Francisco and Oregon cities are going TOD. I think what you meant to say was the North-East and Midwest large cities. All the smaller cities and suburbs are just as car-oriented.
Scoinsoffaterocks 5 months ago
@Scoinsoffaterocks If you are from Canada, then I'm surprised your making a big deal about it. I'm a Canadian myself and Toronto is just the same with freeways everywhere (the GO train is slow, expensive, and can be out of the way pending on where you live). Montreal has crap load of freeways too. Vancouver is an exception but can experience inner city grid lock for long periods of time. Via rail is simply inefficient.
Maxmulham 5 months ago
@Maxmulham
I know what you mean.
Those systems are just proof of how neglected public transit is.
Scoinsoffaterocks 5 months ago
@Scoinsoffaterocks Totally!
Maxmulham 5 months ago
@Scoinsoffaterocks NO! Cars to Americans are like apple pie and Thankgiving and an integral part of our mindset. Despite the choking jams due to growth, cars represent freedom to go, like a flying bird. Keep in mind, 50-60 years ago the "take-off" of air travel with railroads largely bankrupt given the desire for us to buy cars due to an expansive powerhouse economy post WW2. We thought the future was the car so therefore given how massive LA region is in area, we built freeways in '40's/50's.
OSTARAEB4 5 months ago
@OSTARAEB4
I'm an American, to me cars are just boxes on wheels. Los Angeles is just a cancerous growth of 8 lane motorways. A place designed to maximize traffic volume. How are they "free" when they must drive because nothing is built to human scale?
RomanV101 5 months ago
@RomanV101 Yes, one can debate the aesthetic beauty of concrete freeways ringed throughout Los Angeles and our cities. I was referring to the American spirit of driving. Obviously, nobody I know loves to be in bumper to bumper especially in LA basin. Now, can you imagine getting around Los Angeles if the freeways were never built? Obviously., there is now awareness of the environmental impact and congestion but how many ppl are really willing to give up their car?
OSTARAEB4 5 months ago
@Scoinsoffaterocks Also, how much more populated is America than Canada. Yes, we clearly realize our major cities have horrendous traffic problems, but these probs will not get addressed overnight due to the various aspects of economic/social/financial impact as the best way to alleviate this infrastucture problem. Maybe if my country cut all foreign aid, we could address our peoples' problems instead of caring whether a Saudi woman can drive a car. BTW, have you ever driven in this LA mess?
OSTARAEB4 5 months ago
@Scoinsoffaterocks Besides, even if they could add another four lanes going in each direction which as one can see is impossible, it wouldn't solve the problem but have more people drive into it.
OSTARAEB4 5 months ago
@OSTARAEB4
It is called induced consumption.
Scoinsoffaterocks 5 months ago 3
@Scoinsoffaterocks
It's a conspiracy to maximize American consumption of oil.
RomanV101 5 months ago
@RomanV101
Errrr...
No.
Scoinsoffaterocks 5 months ago
Reason why I avoid the 101 when I wanna go home... MY WAY: 10 west 405 north 118 east 5 south 170 south THEN ROSCOE BLVD... hahaha
TVisawesome432 10 months ago
Does L.A. even have any form of public transit.
Allante715 10 months ago
@Allante715
2 subway lines, 3 light rail lines, 2 bus rapid transit and a whole lot of individual bus agencies. Although this may sound good, it is from from it and public transit is not a convenient form of transportation in the urban agglomeration. Please visit, the Transport Politic for more details.
Scoinsoffaterocks 8 months ago
@Scoinsoffaterocks
That sure doesn`t sound much for a city of that size. Both in terms of land and population.
Allante715 8 months ago
The Greater Los Angeles Urban Agglomeration (including the Inland Empire) is just an incredibly huge grey blob. You just have to see the area on Google Earth, you just have to see it. It blew my mind first time I saw it.
Here is a short comparison.
Greater New York:
6,720 sq. mi.
18,897,109 people
Greater Los Angeles:
33,954 sq mi
17,786,419 people
But do not dismay, LA is an excellent transit market and has VERY big transit ambitions.
Scoinsoffaterocks 8 months ago
I also forgot to mention that there are currently 46, yes 46, public transit operators currently operating in the area. The Los Angeles County Metropolitan Transportation Authority (locally known as just Metro) has very a very clean modern system with a beautiful modern fleet of buses.
It operates many creative (and colour coded services):
Metro Local (California Poppy, a shade of orange) have frequent stops
Metro Rapid (rapid red) have limited stops
Metro Express (business blue) minimal stops
Scoinsoffaterocks 8 months ago
Metro operates:
17.4 miles of subway on two lines, Metro Red & Metro Purple. Metro Purple has yet to be extended to Santa Monica on a very dense, extremely traffic congested route, practically begging for a subway. The only problem is the cost... (the route is 12 miles completely underground)
61.7 miles of light rail on 3 lines: Metro Blue, Green, & Gold.
There is currently a plan to completely cover the city in a web of light rail with over 7 new lines, and hundreds of miles of extensions.
Scoinsoffaterocks 8 months ago
There is MetroLiner which is a fancy way of saying Bus Rapid Transit (MetroRail is used to refer to the subway and light rail routes which Metro operates) There are currently 40 miles of BRT operating on two new line, opened in 2005 and 2009. The Orange Line (which has extension both already under construction and those still in planning) and the Silver Line. Silver Line operates on a transit-way owned by Metro that runs right down the middle of the highway. It is also used by other bus routes.
Scoinsoffaterocks 8 months ago
@Allante715 Yep. The MTA and public bus service.
tall32guy 7 months ago
Welcome to Hollywood
JelJam16 10 months ago
No wonder LA has bad traffic conditions, it has 15 million people.
MrStubbja 10 months ago
man you are going so slow
whoiszizou 10 months ago
DUDE this is cool I wish it was like this everyday
a36rod 10 months ago
dang look at all that sick ass graffiti
DELUXX420 11 months ago
Im wanna live in L.A :)
whisper58113 11 months ago
This is nothing compared to Houston.
Wonfish2fish 11 months ago
@Wonfish2fish I live in Houston as well, and the traffic I think is only getting worse. Do to more people moving down here for work.
kittenblack13 10 months ago
@Wonfish2fish HOUSTON HA!!!!! HOUSTON is nowhere near comperd to the L.A. area this ain't even rush hour traffic this is considered smooth traffic compred during thr real rush hour traffic cars back to back and you're not even moving at all takes about me 4 1/2 hours to get home when i'm driving in rush hour traffic.. iv'e been to HOUSTON and the traffic there is nowhere near comparable to what L.A. has..
1skylinedreamz 10 months ago
this is why i'm not moving to los angeles...
bosnagurl1234 11 months ago
come on calimonkey, its the 101! no local calls it "highway 101" unless youre not a local haha
adventuretime77 11 months ago
@adventuretime77
Wasnt it parking lot 101?
Scoinsoffaterocks 8 months ago
this happens several times a day in la!!!
559northerncali 1 year ago
Driving these freeways can be intense. As one will notice, the infrastructure is crumbling due to it's being 55-60 years old. With a green meter light-GO until you see the red lights. Your music made it soothing! Actually, the size of that metro area is amazing! Reminds me of Miami and NYC traffic.
OSTARAEB4 1 year ago
This isn't heavy traffic, this is normal
BlaminicanBarbie 1 year ago
That traffic doesn't look bad at all, grading on an LA curve. It's moving right along except for the typical 101 bottleneck slowdown.
If you had moved only about 30 feet during the whole video, that would be considered heavy traffic. :-)
RManBB2010 1 year ago
la looks like chicago
redsoxguy617 1 year ago
the 101 east looks all jammed up as usual
Juliansworld 1 year ago
This is nothing compared to a Friday at 5
chaoticrockic1 1 year ago
this isn't as bad as HOUSTON gridlock Traffic!
AZ09astrophysicist 1 year ago
@DanDFriend: im guessing a lot more people will be looking out for it now!...lol.
TheLoyalhuman 1 year ago
no worse than philly
yay78900 1 year ago
I saw this in The Weather Channel,that the wintertime temps in LA is in the 70's.Since I'm from NYC,it astonishes me,because that temperature in NYC is in the summertime.How's the summer in LA?
98bigbutt 1 year ago
@98bigbutt Summer in LA in Santa Monica is usually okay. In the valley it's usually in the triple digits for months. Way too hot!
DividedAsOne 1 year ago
@98bigbutt It can be cool (60s) from the coast inland a few miles, esp during the "June Gloom", 80s farther inland, 100+ in the valleys and deserts, and 70s in the mountains. All on the same day, and all within a 75 mile radius of the "Metroplex".
Winter was always my favorite time of the year in SoCal. Mild days (like May in NYC), blue skies or partly cloudy most days, a little rain occasionally (a lot sometimes), snow on the mountains, everything in bloom, green foothills, and no smog.
RManBB2010 1 year ago
Heavy yeah right Im from LA this looks like a sunday afternoon
Derek799 1 year ago
This reminds me of the Long Island Expressway...always heavy traffic heading into NYC...although the worst highway is the Cross Bronx! (anyone from New York will tell you that the Cross Bronx is the worst highway in NYC)
sanders92493 1 year ago
@sanders92493,Also the Van Wyck Expressway.
98bigbutt 1 year ago
what a beuitiful song in this video...
aaliyahaaliyah 1 year ago
10w passing cal state la, passing the 5 juncture, onto the east LA interchange (10/101/5/110) passing la county jail, la times, union station, city hall, walt disney music center, passing rampart, wilshire going to hollywood?
nochance101 1 year ago
@DanDFriend it's an armenian who spent 5 months of his pay to show off for 3 hours.
nochance101 1 year ago
This definitely looks like Miami.
98bigbutt 1 year ago
Man those lanes are fucking huge!
98bigbutt 1 year ago
@98bigbutt lanes are huge to suit the needs of retards who can seem to stay in their own lanes. it's like failing to color inside the lines.
nochance101 1 year ago
why is traffic so heavy in l.a? what do people do up the front of the line??? :/
volcom1722 1 year ago
@volcom1722 Well, traffic is heavy mostly because Los Angeles is the most populous city in California, with over 3 million people, and there are lots of businesses as well. The staples center in LA holds sports games such as basketball and hockey so I wouldn't be surprised if fans were on the road. But other than that, I don't know about people in front of traffic my best guess is that they are just people who don't know how to drive.
WalDemento999 1 year ago
@WalDemento999 im thinkin its the "dont know how to drive" im scared to death to drive on the 410 im about to live about an hour from L.A.
RNGSR2010 1 year ago