Western steam locomotives tended to be oil burners, although not all. UP 844 and 3985 are both oil burners. UP Big Boys burned coal. Coal still has more natural heat value than oil, although most locomotives burned bunker C or D, the thick and heavy stuff. Eastern railroads however, used coal. So it is with 611 and C&O 614, although they were built for coal hauling railroads. As for pollutants, they didn't emit was nitrous oxide or other stuff that results from internal combustion.
Its a shame more of the big Santa Fe steam locos haven't been restored to operation. The California State Railroad Museum acquired two beautiful machines years ago - a 2900 4-8-4 and a 5000 2-10-4. The museum just let them sit and rust out by the river and today they look like junk. What a sin. These aren't just old Santa Fe steamers, they're important pieces of American history!
@Chase1609 Unless you can figure out a way to reduce the massive pollution a steam locomotive puts out, you are out of luck. The EPA would never allow steam locomotives again. The railroads are having enough problems as it is dealing with current EPA restrictions. That is why you see locomotives such as the Gensets.
@ovationpdh with the cost of diesel and the modern engineering methods steam could make a comeback. diesel, diesel- elec or just electric these are polluting too. Has anyone done an analysis of say the 4-8-4 pulling a load from kansas to calif against the modern diesel electric we might be surprised. The old engineers who operated both may have been right,steam was better in certain circumstances
On the rails where it belongs;something deeply Americana about a strong locomotive big enough to shake the ground upon passing by.They had a way of letting you know something was happening more important.It's a shame that now you only see them used for nostalgic reasons when you know that engine was built to haul serious weight pushing what near or around a maximum of 5,200-5,500 hourse correct me if I'm wrong;such beautiful machines to watch fade into memory with yesterday's news.
Cool, glad to see that it's not just the UP 844 and 3985 as the only operating steam locomotives (although they are also cool). Nice rig in the background too.
@HaloCE14 Actually to be technical, they're the same design (a WWII era requirement for new locos required that only proven designs be used). 2900's are only heavier because they weren't allowed to used the same lightweight materials during the war since those were set aside for the war effort.
@SR6900 actually they are very similar and almost the same design. The 3751 class were the smaller of the 4 classes or 4-8-4s and the 3776 and 2900s the largest. The 3776 class was actually identicle to the 2900s except lighter. The 3765 class was more like the 3751 class.
@Samaase614 i saw hat Locomotive at San Diego and i got to bleow the wishtle on that train
TheWwefan152 3 months ago
Western steam locomotives tended to be oil burners, although not all. UP 844 and 3985 are both oil burners. UP Big Boys burned coal. Coal still has more natural heat value than oil, although most locomotives burned bunker C or D, the thick and heavy stuff. Eastern railroads however, used coal. So it is with 611 and C&O 614, although they were built for coal hauling railroads. As for pollutants, they didn't emit was nitrous oxide or other stuff that results from internal combustion.
61mrmusicman 6 months ago
Its a shame more of the big Santa Fe steam locos haven't been restored to operation. The California State Railroad Museum acquired two beautiful machines years ago - a 2900 4-8-4 and a 5000 2-10-4. The museum just let them sit and rust out by the river and today they look like junk. What a sin. These aren't just old Santa Fe steamers, they're important pieces of American history!
nev594 7 months ago
@nev594 You mean the ones that you can see sitting on the tracks when you go over the bridge? It'd be so cool to see those moving again.
WPRR1 6 months ago
@Chase1609 The most modern steam locomotives burn oil, there is much pollution here, no cinders and ash.
ovationpdh 8 months ago
@Chase1609 Unless you can figure out a way to reduce the massive pollution a steam locomotive puts out, you are out of luck. The EPA would never allow steam locomotives again. The railroads are having enough problems as it is dealing with current EPA restrictions. That is why you see locomotives such as the Gensets.
ovationpdh 8 months ago
@ovationpdh with the cost of diesel and the modern engineering methods steam could make a comeback. diesel, diesel- elec or just electric these are polluting too. Has anyone done an analysis of say the 4-8-4 pulling a load from kansas to calif against the modern diesel electric we might be surprised. The old engineers who operated both may have been right,steam was better in certain circumstances
18tangles 6 days ago
On the rails where it belongs;something deeply Americana about a strong locomotive big enough to shake the ground upon passing by.They had a way of letting you know something was happening more important.It's a shame that now you only see them used for nostalgic reasons when you know that engine was built to haul serious weight pushing what near or around a maximum of 5,200-5,500 hourse correct me if I'm wrong;such beautiful machines to watch fade into memory with yesterday's news.
blitzspeer 11 months ago
Too Bad the BNSF nixed the run to trainfestival 2011
SkipW 1 year ago 2
That's where she belongs, running at speed, not rotting in some park.
deloreanman14 1 year ago
@deloreanman14 Excactly!
Michaellovestrains 11 months ago
No more than 45 mph. Nice looking loco!
LMatters1 1 year ago
Cool, glad to see that it's not just the UP 844 and 3985 as the only operating steam locomotives (although they are also cool). Nice rig in the background too.
Tanvan180 1 year ago
My new favorite steam train video. Many thanks.
cirruscloud08 1 year ago
@HaloCE14 Actually to be technical, they're the same design (a WWII era requirement for new locos required that only proven designs be used). 2900's are only heavier because they weren't allowed to used the same lightweight materials during the war since those were set aside for the war effort.
SR6900 1 year ago
@SR6900 actually they are very similar and almost the same design. The 3751 class were the smaller of the 4 classes or 4-8-4s and the 3776 and 2900s the largest. The 3776 class was actually identicle to the 2900s except lighter. The 3765 class was more like the 3751 class.
Robkat3751 1 year ago
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09JDCTrainMan 1 year ago
Awesome! 5*****!
DJGENEX71 2 years ago
She is the same type of 4-8-4 as 3751? Am I right?
Jared1452 2 years ago
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09JDCTrainMan 2 years ago
how fast is 3751 going
gevoman1 2 years ago
@gevoman1
I'd say about 65
adfgfds 2 years ago
I meant 2926, and I think the 4-10-2 is really a 2-10-4
WildGuy00000 2 years ago
the 4-8-4 would be 2925
WildGuy00000 2 years ago
Love the horn.
wakkow111 3 years ago
Awesome video man!
rotundrooster 3 years ago 4