Communism/Socialism is a sad and unfortunate joke that still very much plagues the world today and hasn't gone away. In 1913 the Rothschilds created the Federal Reserve in the United States, founding members of the Federal Reserve then financed the 1917 Bolshevik revolution. The Federal Reserve and the Rothschilds always controlled the Soviet Union. And if anyone looks around today at the United States, it looks very much like the old Soviet Union. The government now owns all property
@mauiportal haha, have you been listening to alex jones or something? go read some more conspiracy theories. I suppose Lenin was also a secret CIA agent and Stalin was the head of the illuminati? HAHA the USA is like the USSR? GTFO please... before you make youself look even more retarded.
I guess as a presentation of Marxism, there's not much to disagree with here, but his presentation of the marxian crises of overproduction are very wrong-headed and, I think, lead to a misinterpretation of Lenin's imperialism.
Marx's views were not that there is a chronic lack of demand for the goods manufactured by industry (too many goods made, not enough wages paid to the proletariat to actually buy those goods) which necessitates the occupation of foreign lands. His views were...
...actually much closer to the Neo-Keynesian view of recessions. There's too much of one good, not enough of another, and this causes industries in the over-supplied industry to collapse and put thousands of people out of work. Industries then move into the under-supplied industry, but eventually too many industries move into that undersupplied industry where it becomes oversupplied, and even more people are left out of work. These crises continue until the proletariat can no longer take...
A simple disproof of communism (other than the fact that communism has failed everywhere it's tried) is to consider the fate of Edward, the engine expert. Edward is so good at making engines that he can take scrap metal that's lying around and a few simple tools, and make a highly efficient engine. Now, you would think for example, that he can make car engines. But there are various problems with giving Edward a car company. It makes more sense for Edward to work for a car company.
@VeryHugeAss Command and control economy that existed in the US during the war was of extreme benefit to the owners of the factories and raw materials that were necessary for the war effort. If com-and-con should be in place during times of war. The barons would start that war themselves to massively increase profits. This is the
What? dude I didn't get what you were saying but I know communism doesn't work. Take a look at the Soviet Union from before WWII to the Cold War. The Russians didn't have the resources like we did and still do. In the Cold War, the US and Russia were at war, in a sense, on who would come out on top technologically. Both Reagen and Bush Sr., push Russia to point of collapse by pushing their science program and NASA. That in turn caused Russia to collapse economically while the US still stood.
The US is weakening economically now but the fact that we went strong from then to now proves that our economic system works. On top of that, with economic freedom and the ability to grow and expand without restraint give way for innovation and invention. That is something that Communism lacks. The reason for that is cause Communism "Redistributes Wealth". Basically, I can't make more money than you because any excess I make goes to you and visa versa.
And that puts people who got laid off or makes much less money, say $10-$20k a year, in the mindset of saying "hey, I can go flip burgers at McDonalds and still make $40k a year" or worse sit around and do nothing and make the same amount. That in turn, slows if not stops innovation and invention. The US made the atom bomb and the hydrogen bomb before Germany and Russia simply because we had the resources and desire to do so because of the freedoms you have.
@TheRedLuigi We did no such thing. Albert Einstein did inform us that Germany was trying to build an Atom bomb and did help us along with Szilard. both were German physicist and to my knowledge the only Germans on the project.
Communism can be summed up in this simple goal: The abolition of all private property.
Sorry, but I'll have none that philosophy! It is bankrupt. Collectivism is bankrupt. Only individual freedom and limited government will produce a large middle class and break the hold of crony capitalists who have obtained virtual monopoly powers over our money while taxing our labors progressively to fuel ever larger government at the expense of liberty.
@acoronab Collectivism is bankrupt and always will be. Coercion and force are the hallmarks of collectivism and always serve to, at a minimum, irritate natural sensibilities and at worst enslave. Liberty or bust! Or do you oppose liberty?
@nalejbank "Coercion and force are the hallmarks of collectivism"
No Coercion and force are the hallmarks of living in a group, the rules the group has develop for the efficient functioning of its self we call norms, and refusal to follow this norms will be met with reprimands or expulsion, you follow this norms as the group allows you to more easily meet your baser needs like sustenance and security, by this you are made more free as you have more time for other things.
SOME POOR WRETCHED COMMUNIST STILL IS GOING TO HAVE TO CLEAN PUBLIC TOILETS, OR DO COMMUNIST NOT SHIT? I WOULD IMAGINE COMMUNAL TOILETS WOULD BECOME ESPECIALLY DISCUSTING, IF YOU DID'NT OWN THE TOILET YOU WERE CRAPPING IN THAN WHY NOT SPRAY DIARRHEA ALL OVER THE BOWL?I'M GLAD THERE IS NOT SOME FUCKING COMMUNIST COMMITY WHO WILL DECIDE IF ITS MY LOT IN LIFE TO SPEND MY ENTIRE LIFE CLEANING TOILETS. YOU PEOPLE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO WORK, EQUALITY IS A GIGANITC LIE
@VeryHugeAss Just because their parties had the name "communist" doesn't mean they actually were, when you look at the actions of each of those individuals, they acted as state capitalists. The official name of North Korea is "The Democratic People's Republic of North Korea" but it's far from what it claims to be. They used populist terms like "democracy" and "socialism" to win over the proletariat, yet didn't actually implement into society either of those.
@bajskorvaren No, calling yourself a communist then doing things completely contrary to the ideals of communism isn't "communism in practice". It's called lying. As I said earlier, when North Korea calls itself a democracy yet doesn't implement a democracy that's not "democracy in practice" its called lying. Something totalitarian states are used to doing.
Dude, i don't want to disappoint you but National Socialism is the exact same as fascism, called extreme right around the globe. I ain't communist and i never will be one. But i cannot dare to call Hitler and Stalin left wing! This kind of statement is inaccurate at the least and makes you look ignorant! Ok you don't like communists, neither do i.. but for God's sake, do some research about political ideologies and people.. Hitler could torture you for 2 years for calling him left-wing..
@WickedpersonY National Socialism is exactly the same as Communism, except instead of being internationally based the Nazis were nationally based. However, everything else was the same. Nazism was a command economy. There was no private property in Hitler's plan. Left-wing university professors have tried to promulgate that Nazism is right-wing, because universities are mostly left-wing in nature and they don't want to be associated with Hitler.
@VeryHugeAss Jesus Christ have you ever read any article related to Nazism?
Some obvious facts 1)Nazism relies on nationalism, communism rely on the international idea 2)Nazism is totally anti-communist 3) It is extreme right by any way you see it, with any definition. From Wiki:
Nazism, the common short form name of National Socialism was the ideology and practice of the Nazi Party and of Nazi Germany. It is a unique variety of fascism that incorporates biological racism and antisemitism.
@WickedpersonY Nazism was founded out of elements of the far-right racist völkisch German nationalist movement and the violent anti-communist Freikorps paramilitary culture that fought against the uprisings of communist revolutionaries in post-World War I Germany. The ideology was developed first by Anton Drexler and then Adolf Hitler as a means to draw workers away from communism and into völkisch nationalism.
Wiki is not reliable, but search around the web for objective articles. Read them.
@WickedpersonY Man, forget about journal articles and anything from professors - just use your head. Communism is called a command economy - there is no private enterprise and a central government plans everything. Hitler wanted to plan the entire economy, he felt that Jews were able to destroy the economy because they privately owned business'. A command economy would prevent any "mongorel race" from gaining power in Germany through trickery.
Your arguing over fallacious semantics , America never had a true right-wing political party since what you define as "right wing" is radically different from the cultural experience of Europe,
Communism etymology it does not mean "command economy", Its a Latin derived word that literally means "belongs to all" & "shared ownership". You have to be daft to conflate "communist" anti-propertarianism & the soviet unions purely gov owned & managed economy with nazism.
Fascism cannot be reduced down to simplistic terms of right or left, the most definitive feature of Fascism is ultra-nationalism , militaristic imperialism, state supremacy, Musolini advocated publicly for inter-class cooperation & ethnic unity between Italians regardless of class , In practice he always favored factory owners & party favorites over their workers, crushing free labor unions & sentencing striking workers to hard labor in prison camps.
@VeryHugeAss The Allies ran a command economy during WWII, the Brits rationed everything and private production of consumer goods halted as factories were converted to producing what the government wanted. Just because the Allies ran a command economy didn't mean they were fascist.
@oldoldoldoldold The Allies ran a command economy during wartime, it was not their economic system during peacetime - it was an extreme measure. If you look at the teachings of Nikola Kondratiev (K-Waves), you will see a socialist, or command, system is the best system during certain circumstances - war, depression etc. However, the majority of the time, the economy should be based on a Capitalist system in order to run as efficiently as possible.
@VeryHugeAss Again you are ignoring everything critical. Capitalism in it's various forms, state capitalism and anarcho-capitalism alike, narrows wealth into the hands of a few resulting in privately owned tyrannies. Which is what a corporation is. They are privately owned tyrannies. You are not taking into account MANY MANY things. Dear lord.
@VeryHugeAss Jesus Christ, use your head and watch this on youtube...
watch?v=4r2kol25FKs
It's the very basic things man, if you can't see the difference between Hitler and a radical left or a communist, you must be brainwashed or something.
@VeryHugeAss Just forget everything, don't go on, i can't continue arguing about this, i really don't want communism neither fascism neither nazism neither capitalism neither socialism, yet i do not define them as "same". Please search better your sources. I really support your act of denying communism, but you haven't really understand what it truly is/means. Start by seperating Stalin/Hitler from communism. You can keep Mao&Castro.
@WickedpersonY In the end, politics does not matter - everything comes down to economics. K-waves will dictate everything. Anything else is just conversation.
@VeryHugeAss There is no central government in communism. State Capitalism and Variants of socialism. Neither actual capitalism nor actual Communism have ever REALLY existed. Hitler felt that communism was Jewish conspiracy. Soviet Socialism is a command economy. Communism is more complex. The bridge is called Leninism. HItler didn't plan the entire economy. Germany was booming at the time and had deals with foreign businesses including America before the actual war.
@VeryHugeAss EVERYTHING you just said is historically wrong. There was private property and individual ownership of capital. You don't need a free market to have capitalism (although free market capitalism is the default idea). Communism: A Stateless and classless society based on common ownership. Nazism: Had a fuck of a lot of state and a shit load class antagonism. Hmm...Seems like you are clinically ill. Fascism is right wing. They openly DECLARE IT SO. READ FOR FUCKS SAKE!
@TheRedLuigi Retard, the Nazis were called -: National Socialists (socialism means left-wing). Learn to read you homosexual, butt-fucking , Pride Day marching fuck-tard.
@VeryHugeAss Socialism doesn't mean left wing. I think you're trolling. National Socialism is not Marxist Socialism. You'd know that if YOU had learned to read and looked up the 25 Points of National Socialism. They were openly state regulated capitalism and corporatist in structure. The Nazis were also the most visciously anti-communist political movement in the modern era slaughter memebers of left wing groups including the communist party.
@VeryHugeAss Secondly: Socialism for Marx meant workers control over production based on decentralized councils and democratic institutions that would slowly wither away as its very existence would change the very meaning of "The state". Nazi Germany was based on CAPITAL and PROFIT SHARING amongst the large businesses of Germany. Defined as Corporatism. If you READ any of their writings or bothered to try to understand political movements in history you'd already know that.
@VeryHugeAss Thirdly your complete ignorance on the subject of European economic and political thought WHILST claiming so arrogantly that other people should read leads me to believe you're a troll. If you are I hope you enjoyed your education. Everyone on this wall shut you down. You're either a troll or an idiot. Either way you're spewing nonsense. And mutliple users have called you out.
@VeryHugeAss Retard, NAZI stands for : NATIONAL SOCIALIST. In case your homosexual, retarded, fuck-tard brain doesn't get it; Socialism means left-wing!!!! You are on the same continuum as the Nazis, just admit it! The state ran everything. They told you where to work, how much you made, when you could go on vacation etc. There was no free enterprise. Free enterprise is Capitalism, but you are too busy sucking cocks to understand that.
@VeryHugeAss you are as retarded as Glenn Beck. Hitler hated left wing views. He only added socialism into his parties name to attract these people because he knew he needed their votes. Hitler had most communists killed if you didn't notice. Nazi Germany wasn't really socialist. Hitler encouraged private property and private ownership. He also encouraged Corporations and also privatised the banks. The nazis followed the survival of the fittest motive, just like capitalism...
@thatkindofguy234 Hitler was an anti-capitalist, just as he was an anti-capitalist, just as he was anti-Jewish, because I Jewish banks created both capitalism and communism. Therefore he privatized the banks, and Germany went from a deep depression to the most prosperous country in the world in less than 11 years. The Jewish banks declared war on Germany, just as they recently declared war on Iraq for the same thing. And of course now they've declared war on Iran for the very same reason.
@xanji625 Socialism/capitalism are ideologies/ideas etc that are and should be very open for criticism, they are not sexual preferences or alike that needs to be "tolerated".
socialism is a horribel system where the state owns everything
socialism - all are slaves of the state
social democracy - all are slaves of eachother
regulated democracy (protected property etc) - the individual is free
@xanji625 I'm not talking about socialism in theory, im talking about socialism in practice, matter of fact socialism is a whole different thing in theory than in practice because people think giving all power to a few magically makes them to good person without reason for powerabuse
@bajskorvaren Socialism is a system of economic democratization and placing power equitably in the hands of all. It doesn't mean the big bad state owns everything. Workers own and manage the means of production and keep what they made (profit) instead of being wage-slaves in an, oppressive, undemocratic hierarchy where those who do the least work get the most money and make all the decisions i.e. Capitalism. Meanwhile Capitalists have bought what was the limited political democracy we had.
@typenamehere19 thats how it works in theory, kinda, but point out to me one single socialist country where the people are in charge. also theres no such thing as a wage slave, wage are set by the market, all trading/working is voluntary and wont happen unless both parties benefit.
if you study capitalism you will soon realise why a guy investing a big portion of his savings on a project that can go bad or good, brings capital and hires workers earns more than the people not risking anything
@bajskorvaren You are right about investment often being successful, but slave wages have existed for a long time. Maybe no t in your country, but in others, for example, where the patron finds ways of endebting the worker to the hilt and there are no other choices to go to work to (this happens in very poor countries. ¡No wonder that poor people there get the strange idea of organizing against this situations!)
@acoronab This is unfortunately a big problem in our society, we judge how rich we are compared to our society, like this is supposed to be the average standard of living and the rest of the world has low, matter of fact the Real standard of living is step 1, catching food with your hands. the freer people are economically the more a society can develop, todays western societies is built on the backs of our grandparents parents and so on who worked so we could have a better life, continued>>
@acoronab the stage we consider poor, which we see in developing countries like india, has a higher standard of living than the average human life through history, and it is a stage an economy has to go through to be prosperous and rich like us, the best way to help them grow is to let the free markets expand the developing countries economies.
If you removed the jobs the "wage slaves" had, who would benefit? matter of fact, having rich people investing in their countries is the best thing!
@bajskorvaren You seem to forget the revolt against injustice part, of which our grandparents took part too. Would that also be a stage, according to your view? Or is mowing down Spartacus for his best?
@bajskorvaren There aren't any current examples because all three (The Paris Commune, The Spanish Revolution, and The Ukrainian Free Territory) to ever come about were crushed by force. Anyone earning a wage is selling their labor (themselves) in exchange for that wage. The Capitalist owns you for x hours a day, and exploits your work, giving far less than what you actually produced, but only so much as so you'll come back the next day to be exploited some more. That is wage slavery.
Our department that deals with our payments had been changed from 'Finance' to 'Rewards'. Fucking rewards! You can see how the psychology is filtering down. Human Resources: Im a unit of resource, not a person.
Communism is only one step after socialism. Democrates and many others under the leadership of President B.O. have our country heading full speed ahead toward socialism.
@weimlove64 I just want to know, what efforts and measures is President B.O. and his appointed government taking to push america toward socialism? I'm just wondering. Because all I get out of this is mess and confusion.
@VoshMusic They are not going to socialism my friend, but that is how the basic american is programmed to blame things when shit happends to them or their country..
Calling somone a communist(commie) is like calling somone a nigger or a chin there.
They take it pretty offencively cuzz there goverments like ours have been programming them simce the 40' s. This video is accurate to an extent hope it made things more clear for you.
@slayer2961 Thanks for the reply. Yes I don't understand why so many Americans think that their president has a socialist agenda. I guess you are right, this can only be put down to brainwashing, most of them seem biased towards socialism and communism without being able to explain what those words actually mean. Then again, there are some who seem to know perfectly well but still lean toward the idea of 'free market capitalism' which is what I thought caused this whole mess. happy new year :)
@taow222328 The failure of communism is do to circumstantial instances. There was now working class to organize themselves democratically because much of Russia was still based on feudalism. The small class that did exist was virtually wiped out due to WW2 and the civil war. This allowed Stalin (and to a lesser extent Lenin) to degenerate the state to there own interests and build state capitalism....no other "succesfull revolution" has had anything to do with communsim
Wonderful video, and I do agree with a lot of what it says, but I cannot shake the idea that capitalism is simply a more "political" way of explaining the basic structure of human nature. There will always be an alpha at the top.
Ultra-leftist ideology stems from ONE major problem: They believe that wealth is not creatable. If it isnt, than that if the rich are richer, than the poor are poorest BECAUSE of the rich. Which is not the case whatsoever. Because theres no economic proof that having richer people makes the poor pooreer, communist and other forms of ultra-leftism falls apart completely. If the rich truely only got rich off the poor, the US would be the poorest country on earth.
Marxists are so delusional!You actually believe,that a desperate fantasy-dream,though up by this loser proletariat-jew Karl Marx will actually,some day materalize?Jeeze,a total delusional fantasy of a classless society Utopia;an Aristocricy-less world,where everyone is equal?Aristocracy is a reality!Because they have brains!Proletariat?Ha,ha.Hell,marxists lack the brains to even understand the realized-workable concept of real Communism:"Totalitarian-Global-Elite--Corporatism!"That's COMMUNISM!
Stalin...Stalin was the greatest communist of the 20th century. He killed millions due to his failed agriculture experiment. He killed millins by starving them to death.
Stalin killed anyone who couldn't contribute anything to the state. Like his ape-man experiemnts of 1926 where his top scientists were put to work to try to create a submissive human with incredible strength. It couldn't be done so he sent the scientist in charge to the Gulag. Communism is a great failure. It's BS.
@mikaylaboo1 Except from the minor detail Stalin is not to be considered communist. And i despise communists for my own reasons. But i don't say any obcure statement like that one. Pleaseee read some objective history articles... stalinism is not the same as communism... The founder and 1st leader or the Red Army(Communist's revolution army) was assasined by Stalin... as he also killed most of the boldest communists of his time... Communism sucks but not for these reasons, read a book or two..
Someone needs to do his homework again, or seize making bad jokes.
National Socialism is not even an attempt of a government style. It was a short term idea to give the Nazis an high enough output of soldiers and weaponry to go to war.
National Socialism is like the brabbeling of a crazy man.
Either you yourself are a Nazi and furthermore counted as dumb enough to not see that this system in itself tried to trampel on people exactly like you .. or you are just a dude who is not funny
I would rather attempt to secure an improvement for the public then follow a dead end like the "free market" is.
Free Market is very clear is as much a fever dream of an utopic world as is communism... both showed by history that they are flawed as FUCK and need to be rethought.
To put Free Market above Communism is pure and utter shit...
Agreed! The ideology behind communism was rather interesting and was just surpressed because the America saw Russia, who under the rule of Communism grew to one of the biggest industrial nations of the world, as a threat to their supremacy. While we could argue (on both a philosophical and economical scale) about the rights and wrongs about communism, I would like to say that "Free Market", mentioned by jonescomplete are leading to a dystopia!
People have been brainwashed by the capitalists into thinking Communism is the same as what Stalin put in place. (Gulags/uniforms/marching around/secret police etc etc) Such a historic mistake that Gorbachev was way too late to preserve it (ie with free elections) as he had hoped ! Marxism zaps that crude, Stalinist peasant-based, militaristic ideology and restores his original inspiration and vision-that the rich, free world is the real basis for a fair and free socialist society.
Hey Mike which parts of Marx and Engels did you use... if you are interested in having a german translation read to your video. I would be more than happy to do so. let me know
Bourgeoise is a man at the top of the hill with 10 boxes of pizza he can't eat it all on is own...... be he sure as hell wants it
Prolatariate is at the bottom of the hill with one single slice of pizza and he's starving" - First of all, nice ripping off the Amazing Atheists work with the pizzas there. Secondly, the Bourgeoise eating more pizzas DOESNT mean he took those pizzas. He made them or people gave them to him.
i dont see how this cartoon discredits communism or marx except for the part where he says workers unite for revolt. Isn't this cartoon a reality we live in today? these are the costs of capitalism, and we will need to find ways to solve some of capitalism's weaknesses.
there are alternatives to capitalism, im afraid they cannot be used on a global level with our modern sophisticated society. I think if people can rise above the self-interest ideal i think we can do it, but if not, capitalism is the best system.
This is what socialists and communists truely believe in? Ok that is fucking scary. Communism and socialism created a large scale of Serfdom and suffocated production of goods and services to the point where people had nothing and it's a good system. ARE YOU FUCKING SERIOUS, My God under communism we have seen the greatest amount of Human misery in world history, just look at North Korea. The problems that commies see have to do with High Taxation, that is the real cancer.
@Nightshift10000 you do realise all attempts so far of communism on a large scale have been incredibly far away from what Marx and Engels wrote. Marx's favourite moto was "question everything", now apply that to Stalin's "communism" and it doesn't quite fit
In a similar vein to your comment, Marx also became concerned with what he viewed as a perversion of his and Engel's views under the banner of "Marxism." In refutation of this, the Great Man famously stated "I am not a Marxist."
@Nightshift10000 The regimes you are thinking of weren't communist, they maintained state-capitalist economies while politically were operated under party dictatorships.
@Nightshift10000 what you speak of is totalitarianism....oh and on the note of cancer, you will be saddened to learn that the real "pandemic" of cancer began with the capitalist industrial revolution, specifically, the over-use and widespread use of dangerous chemicals and pesticides which are all linked to causing cancer....OOPSS!!! Capitalism caused the huge spread of cancer to the point where we are now born with cancer cells.....
@jmintube@jmintube We don't know what caused cancer to begin, the disease cancer may have began hundreds or thousands of years ago. Communism is a political cancer, it will inevitably result in totalitarianism which is an unfortunatey of it. Taking from people and redistributing their wealth doesn't help anyone. The Free Market is where all can have wealth undreamed off without anyone taking that away from anyone. How long will it take people to get it through Government is the problem.
@Nightshift10000 We had a free market economy once....at the turn of the industrial revolution, where america was a third world country....btw your argument is absolutely insane, by your logic, I could argue that free market capitalism will lead to fascism and corporatism........and what do you know!!! that is where we are today!
The free market will do nothing positive for society...it will simply continue the mass consumption/production model which is unsustainable.
also communism is not that much of a cancer its just... not possible with humans. Thats one of the reasons the soviets got schooled that good and much in those times to be able to mentally handle the true concept of eventually having no goverment and restrictions what so ever and being able to live in balance.... thats the true idea of marx. however, due to stalinism this image had been reduced to only an idea rather than lenin' s vision of socialism.
the truth is we cannot be entirely free until we can live in complete balance with one another, and accept our differences rather than redicule and thumb down everything different from ours. i think for now a bundle of ideologies is be the best thing we are capable of doing. Somthing like a good socialist base for things like healthcare and foodproduction, a democratic middle in the goverment sector and a capitalist idea of market trade with restrictions against monopoly' s
one day you have everything you need, if you cant pay what the banks ask, youre on there mercy. Did you know that Fokker an older airplane builder company had over 200 orders the month before they went bankrupt? How? the planes costed +/- 20 million a piese? So tell me if wealth cannot be taken away then why did they go bankrupt while having over 200 orders worth 10 to 20 million Dollars each?
@slayer2961 Are you taking our current FEDERAL (Unfree market) banking system as the example? Oh shit, again I would explain how idiotic this is and how wrong communism is in comparison but again what's the use. Keep believeing government control over everything will save you and take care of you, have fun with that.
Simple , the banks placed such big sanction on them that they just didnt have the money to pay even with that massive amount of maoney they earned. Thats how the capitalist banking game goes :D have fun with the bills :D. Hope every1 who believed this is a good idea enjoys there big depth ratios as they go higher and higher.
@Nightshift10000 1 Billion humans are permanently, severely undernourished. So long humans, workers, employees can not commonly own and control over what happens with their surplus production and their generated profits, 3 Billion humans that earn less than $2 a day will keep on being extorted by capitalism.
Democratize the economy, Workers Control over Production!☭
If you are against socialism you have no clue what it is.
A disagreement is when a man and his wife go to buy a car. He wants a blue car and she wants a pink one. It's a matter of taste, nothing more. Most of what the commies("Liberals" and 'progressives') do and try to do to the rest of us are not 'disagreements' but acts of war because they are very willing to have violence initiated against those who refuse to go along with their communism.
If you don't understand anything else, understand this: They view us as livestock.
@MikeNobodyIsBack saying a liberal isnt a commie is like saying magenta isnt a purple... its not as much... but who is to say its not in that direction?
It's way past time to repeal all of the 'gun laws' including GCA '68 and the NFA. It's way past time to shut down the evil BATF Nazis and try them for treason, and murder where appropriate and distribute their retirement funds among their victims. Then repeal the rest of the ‘gun laws,’ beginning with Illinois licensing requirements and New Yawk City’s Sullivan Law which only disarms the victims, then commiefornia’s ban on certain magazine and weapon types.
If you do not SWITCH PARTIES in time, 12 weeks in advance OF THE PRIMARIES IN MOST STATES (starting Late January 2012) your vote does not count! If you are not REGISTERED REPUBLICAN you can not vote Ron Paul in the PRIMARY If Ron Paul does not win the PRIMARY, he has no chance to win the election. Be the "Trojan Horse" be the "mole", infiltrate the system. FIND OUT when your state has its primaries.
If you sit home waiting your turn you deserve to have your gun taken from your cold dead hands.
The Founders didn’t wait for the Brits to knock down their doors. They gathered at the green and stood up like men and they killed government employees all the way back to Boston.
What will you do when it’s time to hunt NWO hacks, republicrats and commies(“Liberals” and ‘progressives’)?
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@evilicecubes The atheism part comes from common sense. It is rather obvious that the religions of the world are wrong and people who think great ideas like Marx naturally come to this conclusion. The bad thing about communism is that in order to maintain consensus on communism as a science based system, the people need to understand sociological and scientific reasoning and theory. This would result is the proletariat to evaporate and the workforce to cease. This is the real tragedy.
I blame most countries for failing in communism not because the system sucks... but that it was done with poor preparation and the leaders were corrupt idiots. Can I also say that True communism has never actually been tried... I could also argue that I can name many capitalist countries that have failed also. Communism has only been tried in countries that were already in a terrible situation, we havent given it a fair try yet IMO...
@thatkindofguy234 The fatal flaw of communism (as well as capitalism) is too much concentration of power. Corrupt idiots are drawn to power, in any form. Until a system without money is established, any system using it will eventually corrode and decay.
@MikeNobodyIsBack To an extent you are right, and to an extent you are wrong. The problems with Communism/Socialism are as you said, too much concentration of power. Capitalism however hypothetically would not suffer as much from these problems if it were not for a few key factors. Over-regulation/too much government control, lobbying power, the government not stopping monopolies/oligopolies, and if the market were allowed to run it's course without frequent bailouts etc.
@CultistOfDagon Complaining about government meddling is just complaining about the employees (congress & the white house) doing what their bosses (wall street) tell them to do. Until you get corporations out of government, government will continue coddling corporations at everyone else's expense.
@MikeNobodyIsBack Actually I did make mention of that, aka reducing lobbying power. If you decentralize the government more, and reduce it's power in the economy, then not only would that curb the government being able to harm the economy, but it would also curb attempts by Wall Street to control the Economy in their own interest.
If communist ideals are so great, tell me how countries like the Soviet Union, The Eastern Block of Europe after WWII, Yugoslavia, Sandinista's Nicaragua, Cambodia, Cuba, China and North Korea are doing?
Answer: It SUCKS.
Good GOD what the hell are they teaching in schools today...
@Swagman00 You presume I am a communist. I am not. Nor am I a capitalist. Until you can comprehend that you will not understand. Marx, although flawed in his prescriptions, accurately diagnosed the problem.
@MikeNobodyIsBack WtH are you??? Carl Marx accurately diagnosed the problem. Do you know how many people Marx starved to death? Quite a prescription to his problem of un-controled masses.
@Swagman00 the soviet union was doing fine up until their leaders started abandoning the ideals it was founded upon realize that communism is a flawed idea due to the fact that humans are not common animals and not equal however socialism has many benefits, looking at nazi germany , if it didn't have to help italy it would have been just fine
@MikeNobodyIsBack Slavery, in a capitalistic society, provide the highest standard of living for the widest range of slaves the world has ever seen. That's actually an argument FOR capitalism not slavery. Slavery wasn't a free economic system NOAM CHOMSKY you fucking brain dead economic and historical illiterate. Hmm, did the slaves have a right to life, liberty, and property? Did they have their own free will to act on their own best interests? Something tells me no...
@MikeNobodyIsBack so you're not refuting that capitalism has provided the highest standard of living for the widest range of people the world has ever seen? btw you're just wrong about the slave thing, unless you're some sort of monster that doesn't consider slaves people. Another thing, the north was more prosperous then the south and they didn't have slaves. Do you believe incentives matter at all? Do you believe in individual freedom? just curious
@landwalker88 Slavery is just capitalism to its fullest extent. BTW, slavery is not dead. Slave labor in third world countries today provides capitalism with continued cheap labor. Material incentives only matter to a certain point. This has been thoroughly studied and proven. Individual freedom is not absolute. The freedom to swing your arms stops at my face.
@MikeNobodyIsBack If you're referring to the cheap labor that say, nike gets hiring in third world countries, the fact is that the people that work in those factories choose to work there. The pay and working conditions are terrible compared to american standards, but the $2 they get a day sewing shoes together is a lot better then the alternatives, things like farming outside all day for 70 cents a day or even prostitution. Nike is looking out for itself and unintentionally helping others.
@landwalker88 No. Do I stutter? SLAVE labor. Slave CHILD labor. Although many industries may as well be owning slaves from the pitiful wages they offer.
@landwalker88 My right to swing my arm should stop at your face, but not before then. If I offer very low wages to people in third world countries and they accept those wages what's the problem? And on capitalism, if I'm willing to risk my capital starting a business and end up making a profit, I did the work so I should keep all that profit right? Sounds like freedom to me. Socialism forcibly takes my money and redistributes it, more closely related to slavery if you ask me.
Communism/Socialism is a sad and unfortunate joke that still very much plagues the world today and hasn't gone away. In 1913 the Rothschilds created the Federal Reserve in the United States, founding members of the Federal Reserve then financed the 1917 Bolshevik revolution. The Federal Reserve and the Rothschilds always controlled the Soviet Union. And if anyone looks around today at the United States, it looks very much like the old Soviet Union. The government now owns all property
mauiportal 22 hours ago
@mauiportal haha, have you been listening to alex jones or something? go read some more conspiracy theories. I suppose Lenin was also a secret CIA agent and Stalin was the head of the illuminati? HAHA the USA is like the USSR? GTFO please... before you make youself look even more retarded.
thatkindofguy234 17 hours ago
@thatkindofguy234 jew?
mauiportal 10 hours ago
@mauiportal nope, I'm not a jew. If were going to make assumptions, heres mine : Ignorant prejudice conspiracy theory nut.
thatkindofguy234 50 minutes ago
I guess as a presentation of Marxism, there's not much to disagree with here, but his presentation of the marxian crises of overproduction are very wrong-headed and, I think, lead to a misinterpretation of Lenin's imperialism.
Marx's views were not that there is a chronic lack of demand for the goods manufactured by industry (too many goods made, not enough wages paid to the proletariat to actually buy those goods) which necessitates the occupation of foreign lands. His views were...
migkillertwo 1 day ago
...actually much closer to the Neo-Keynesian view of recessions. There's too much of one good, not enough of another, and this causes industries in the over-supplied industry to collapse and put thousands of people out of work. Industries then move into the under-supplied industry, but eventually too many industries move into that undersupplied industry where it becomes oversupplied, and even more people are left out of work. These crises continue until the proletariat can no longer take...
migkillertwo 1 day ago
...the magnitude of these recurring recessions, and then they revolt.
migkillertwo 1 day ago
A simple disproof of communism (other than the fact that communism has failed everywhere it's tried) is to consider the fate of Edward, the engine expert. Edward is so good at making engines that he can take scrap metal that's lying around and a few simple tools, and make a highly efficient engine. Now, you would think for example, that he can make car engines. But there are various problems with giving Edward a car company. It makes more sense for Edward to work for a car company.
elzoog 1 day ago
anybody anybody? bueler? anybody? bueler?
Splurgendii 6 days ago
Everyone who wants to know what the left is all about watch this.
youtube.com/watch?v=i32pOaR9xgk&feature=related
Lisat1109 1 week ago
@Lisat1109 You just posted a link to the video that you are commenting on.
TehFunnehMann 1 day ago
RON PAUL 2012
MrArnaldur 1 week ago
@MrArnaldur (not saying to be insulting ) Man you people are every where!
umbrum2 1 week ago
it seems ironic that communists would preach "for" the people.
LeonSkottKennedey 2 weeks ago
@VeryHugeAss Command and control economy that existed in the US during the war was of extreme benefit to the owners of the factories and raw materials that were necessary for the war effort. If com-and-con should be in place during times of war. The barons would start that war themselves to massively increase profits. This is the
Military-Industiral Complex.
GiveMeLiberty3 2 weeks ago
@VeryHugeAss Command and control economies are
GiveMeLiberty3 2 weeks ago
What? dude I didn't get what you were saying but I know communism doesn't work. Take a look at the Soviet Union from before WWII to the Cold War. The Russians didn't have the resources like we did and still do. In the Cold War, the US and Russia were at war, in a sense, on who would come out on top technologically. Both Reagen and Bush Sr., push Russia to point of collapse by pushing their science program and NASA. That in turn caused Russia to collapse economically while the US still stood.
bigandyman7 2 weeks ago
The US is weakening economically now but the fact that we went strong from then to now proves that our economic system works. On top of that, with economic freedom and the ability to grow and expand without restraint give way for innovation and invention. That is something that Communism lacks. The reason for that is cause Communism "Redistributes Wealth". Basically, I can't make more money than you because any excess I make goes to you and visa versa.
bigandyman7 2 weeks ago
And that puts people who got laid off or makes much less money, say $10-$20k a year, in the mindset of saying "hey, I can go flip burgers at McDonalds and still make $40k a year" or worse sit around and do nothing and make the same amount. That in turn, slows if not stops innovation and invention. The US made the atom bomb and the hydrogen bomb before Germany and Russia simply because we had the resources and desire to do so because of the freedoms you have.
bigandyman7 2 weeks ago
@bigandyman7 And becasue you captured german scientists to do the work for you :P
TheRedLuigi 2 weeks ago
@TheRedLuigi We did no such thing. Albert Einstein did inform us that Germany was trying to build an Atom bomb and did help us along with Szilard. both were German physicist and to my knowledge the only Germans on the project.
bigandyman7 1 week ago
i can Only say, fantastic
SubSoc 3 weeks ago
Communism can be summed up in this simple goal: The abolition of all private property.
Sorry, but I'll have none that philosophy! It is bankrupt. Collectivism is bankrupt. Only individual freedom and limited government will produce a large middle class and break the hold of crony capitalists who have obtained virtual monopoly powers over our money while taxing our labors progressively to fuel ever larger government at the expense of liberty.
Ron Paul 2012!!!
nalejbank 3 weeks ago
@nalejbank Yeah, Ron Paul!
paunocu666 3 weeks ago
@nalejbank collectivism will never be bankrupt, as individualism won't be either. Det used to the to and fros
acoronab 2 weeks ago
@acoronab Collectivism is bankrupt and always will be. Coercion and force are the hallmarks of collectivism and always serve to, at a minimum, irritate natural sensibilities and at worst enslave. Liberty or bust! Or do you oppose liberty?
nalejbank 1 week ago
@nalejbank "Coercion and force are the hallmarks of collectivism"
No Coercion and force are the hallmarks of living in a group, the rules the group has develop for the efficient functioning of its self we call norms, and refusal to follow this norms will be met with reprimands or expulsion, you follow this norms as the group allows you to more easily meet your baser needs like sustenance and security, by this you are made more free as you have more time for other things.
TheHolySTD 1 day ago
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SOME POOR WRETCHED COMMUNIST STILL IS GOING TO HAVE TO CLEAN PUBLIC TOILETS, OR DO COMMUNIST NOT SHIT? I WOULD IMAGINE COMMUNAL TOILETS WOULD BECOME ESPECIALLY DISCUSTING, IF YOU DID'NT OWN THE TOILET YOU WERE CRAPPING IN THAN WHY NOT SPRAY DIARRHEA ALL OVER THE BOWL?I'M GLAD THERE IS NOT SOME FUCKING COMMUNIST COMMITY WHO WILL DECIDE IF ITS MY LOT IN LIFE TO SPEND MY ENTIRE LIFE CLEANING TOILETS. YOU PEOPLE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO WORK, EQUALITY IS A GIGANITC LIE
Klauwsawitzz 3 weeks ago
Shut the fuck up you whining piece of faggot shit!
VeryHugeAss 3 weeks ago
@VeryHugeAss Wow you are one Very Huge Ass as your name implies you ignorant, fascist cunt.
TheAmazingRusski 2 weeks ago in playlist Favorite videos
@TheAmazingRusski Fascist? You are one stupid asshole. Every single fascist leader was, or is, left-wing.
Mao - Communist
Stalin - Communist
Hitler - National Socialist
Castro - Communist
Left-wing people are control freaks and they try to kill everyone who does not share their point of view.
VeryHugeAss 2 weeks ago
@VeryHugeAss Just because their parties had the name "communist" doesn't mean they actually were, when you look at the actions of each of those individuals, they acted as state capitalists. The official name of North Korea is "The Democratic People's Republic of North Korea" but it's far from what it claims to be. They used populist terms like "democracy" and "socialism" to win over the proletariat, yet didn't actually implement into society either of those.
typenamehere19 2 weeks ago
@typenamehere19 it is because thats what communism is in practice
bajskorvaren 2 weeks ago
@bajskorvaren No, calling yourself a communist then doing things completely contrary to the ideals of communism isn't "communism in practice". It's called lying. As I said earlier, when North Korea calls itself a democracy yet doesn't implement a democracy that's not "democracy in practice" its called lying. Something totalitarian states are used to doing.
typenamehere19 2 weeks ago
Dude, i don't want to disappoint you but National Socialism is the exact same as fascism, called extreme right around the globe. I ain't communist and i never will be one. But i cannot dare to call Hitler and Stalin left wing! This kind of statement is inaccurate at the least and makes you look ignorant! Ok you don't like communists, neither do i.. but for God's sake, do some research about political ideologies and people.. Hitler could torture you for 2 years for calling him left-wing..
WickedpersonY 2 weeks ago
@WickedpersonY National Socialism is exactly the same as Communism, except instead of being internationally based the Nazis were nationally based. However, everything else was the same. Nazism was a command economy. There was no private property in Hitler's plan. Left-wing university professors have tried to promulgate that Nazism is right-wing, because universities are mostly left-wing in nature and they don't want to be associated with Hitler.
VeryHugeAss 2 weeks ago
@VeryHugeAss Jesus Christ have you ever read any article related to Nazism?
Some obvious facts 1)Nazism relies on nationalism, communism rely on the international idea 2)Nazism is totally anti-communist 3) It is extreme right by any way you see it, with any definition. From Wiki:
Nazism, the common short form name of National Socialism was the ideology and practice of the Nazi Party and of Nazi Germany. It is a unique variety of fascism that incorporates biological racism and antisemitism.
WickedpersonY 2 weeks ago
@WickedpersonY Nazism was founded out of elements of the far-right racist völkisch German nationalist movement and the violent anti-communist Freikorps paramilitary culture that fought against the uprisings of communist revolutionaries in post-World War I Germany. The ideology was developed first by Anton Drexler and then Adolf Hitler as a means to draw workers away from communism and into völkisch nationalism.
Wiki is not reliable, but search around the web for objective articles. Read them.
WickedpersonY 2 weeks ago
@WickedpersonY Man, forget about journal articles and anything from professors - just use your head. Communism is called a command economy - there is no private enterprise and a central government plans everything. Hitler wanted to plan the entire economy, he felt that Jews were able to destroy the economy because they privately owned business'. A command economy would prevent any "mongorel race" from gaining power in Germany through trickery.
VeryHugeAss 2 weeks ago
@VeryHugeAss
Your arguing over fallacious semantics , America never had a true right-wing political party since what you define as "right wing" is radically different from the cultural experience of Europe,
Communism etymology it does not mean "command economy", Its a Latin derived word that literally means "belongs to all" & "shared ownership". You have to be daft to conflate "communist" anti-propertarianism & the soviet unions purely gov owned & managed economy with nazism.
Obasiliasfilosofos 2 weeks ago
@VeryHugeAss
Fascism cannot be reduced down to simplistic terms of right or left, the most definitive feature of Fascism is ultra-nationalism , militaristic imperialism, state supremacy, Musolini advocated publicly for inter-class cooperation & ethnic unity between Italians regardless of class , In practice he always favored factory owners & party favorites over their workers, crushing free labor unions & sentencing striking workers to hard labor in prison camps.
Obasiliasfilosofos 2 weeks ago
@VeryHugeAss The Allies ran a command economy during WWII, the Brits rationed everything and private production of consumer goods halted as factories were converted to producing what the government wanted. Just because the Allies ran a command economy didn't mean they were fascist.
oldoldoldoldold 2 weeks ago
@oldoldoldoldold The Allies ran a command economy during wartime, it was not their economic system during peacetime - it was an extreme measure. If you look at the teachings of Nikola Kondratiev (K-Waves), you will see a socialist, or command, system is the best system during certain circumstances - war, depression etc. However, the majority of the time, the economy should be based on a Capitalist system in order to run as efficiently as possible.
VeryHugeAss 2 weeks ago
@VeryHugeAss Again you are ignoring everything critical. Capitalism in it's various forms, state capitalism and anarcho-capitalism alike, narrows wealth into the hands of a few resulting in privately owned tyrannies. Which is what a corporation is. They are privately owned tyrannies. You are not taking into account MANY MANY things. Dear lord.
ahhhhjjjj 1 week ago
@VeryHugeAss Jesus Christ, use your head and watch this on youtube...
watch?v=4r2kol25FKs
It's the very basic things man, if you can't see the difference between Hitler and a radical left or a communist, you must be brainwashed or something.
WickedpersonY 1 week ago
@VeryHugeAss Just forget everything, don't go on, i can't continue arguing about this, i really don't want communism neither fascism neither nazism neither capitalism neither socialism, yet i do not define them as "same". Please search better your sources. I really support your act of denying communism, but you haven't really understand what it truly is/means. Start by seperating Stalin/Hitler from communism. You can keep Mao&Castro.
WickedpersonY 1 week ago
@WickedpersonY In the end, politics does not matter - everything comes down to economics. K-waves will dictate everything. Anything else is just conversation.
VeryHugeAss 1 week ago
@VeryHugeAss There is no central government in communism. State Capitalism and Variants of socialism. Neither actual capitalism nor actual Communism have ever REALLY existed. Hitler felt that communism was Jewish conspiracy. Soviet Socialism is a command economy. Communism is more complex. The bridge is called Leninism. HItler didn't plan the entire economy. Germany was booming at the time and had deals with foreign businesses including America before the actual war.
ahhhhjjjj 1 week ago
@VeryHugeAss EVERYTHING you just said is historically wrong. There was private property and individual ownership of capital. You don't need a free market to have capitalism (although free market capitalism is the default idea). Communism: A Stateless and classless society based on common ownership. Nazism: Had a fuck of a lot of state and a shit load class antagonism. Hmm...Seems like you are clinically ill. Fascism is right wing. They openly DECLARE IT SO. READ FOR FUCKS SAKE!
ahhhhjjjj 1 week ago
@VeryHugeAss lol hitler was as right wing as you can get faggot
TheRedLuigi 2 weeks ago
@TheRedLuigi Retard, the Nazis were called -: National Socialists (socialism means left-wing). Learn to read you homosexual, butt-fucking , Pride Day marching fuck-tard.
VeryHugeAss 1 week ago
@VeryHugeAss no... socialism means common ownership of the means of production... nazi germany did not have this...
thatkindofguy234 1 week ago
@VeryHugeAss Socialism doesn't mean left wing. I think you're trolling. National Socialism is not Marxist Socialism. You'd know that if YOU had learned to read and looked up the 25 Points of National Socialism. They were openly state regulated capitalism and corporatist in structure. The Nazis were also the most visciously anti-communist political movement in the modern era slaughter memebers of left wing groups including the communist party.
ahhhhjjjj 1 week ago
@VeryHugeAss Secondly: Socialism for Marx meant workers control over production based on decentralized councils and democratic institutions that would slowly wither away as its very existence would change the very meaning of "The state". Nazi Germany was based on CAPITAL and PROFIT SHARING amongst the large businesses of Germany. Defined as Corporatism. If you READ any of their writings or bothered to try to understand political movements in history you'd already know that.
ahhhhjjjj 1 week ago
@VeryHugeAss Thirdly your complete ignorance on the subject of European economic and political thought WHILST claiming so arrogantly that other people should read leads me to believe you're a troll. If you are I hope you enjoyed your education. Everyone on this wall shut you down. You're either a troll or an idiot. Either way you're spewing nonsense. And mutliple users have called you out.
ahhhhjjjj 1 week ago
@VeryHugeAss Retard, NAZI stands for : NATIONAL SOCIALIST. In case your homosexual, retarded, fuck-tard brain doesn't get it; Socialism means left-wing!!!! You are on the same continuum as the Nazis, just admit it! The state ran everything. They told you where to work, how much you made, when you could go on vacation etc. There was no free enterprise. Free enterprise is Capitalism, but you are too busy sucking cocks to understand that.
VeryHugeAss 1 week ago
@VeryHugeAss you are as retarded as Glenn Beck. Hitler hated left wing views. He only added socialism into his parties name to attract these people because he knew he needed their votes. Hitler had most communists killed if you didn't notice. Nazi Germany wasn't really socialist. Hitler encouraged private property and private ownership. He also encouraged Corporations and also privatised the banks. The nazis followed the survival of the fittest motive, just like capitalism...
thatkindofguy234 1 week ago
@thatkindofguy234 Hitler was an anti-capitalist, just as he was an anti-capitalist, just as he was anti-Jewish, because I Jewish banks created both capitalism and communism. Therefore he privatized the banks, and Germany went from a deep depression to the most prosperous country in the world in less than 11 years. The Jewish banks declared war on Germany, just as they recently declared war on Iraq for the same thing. And of course now they've declared war on Iran for the very same reason.
mauiportal 22 hours ago
@mauiportal Yeah... it's all the jews fault! If you're rich, your a jew! LOL...does that not sound familiar?
thatkindofguy234 17 hours ago
@VeryHugeAss Haha. Troll more. Get some anger management classes you moron.
TheRedLuigi 1 week ago
@TheRedLuigi I will take some anger management classes as soon as you commit to stop fucking others up the rump! Go fuck yourself asshole!
VeryHugeAss 1 week ago
@VeryHugeAss Your mom never complains
TheRedLuigi 1 week ago
@TheRedLuigi How would you know? You only jack dudes.
VeryHugeAss 1 week ago
Let the brainwashing begin....
jjenson2006 3 weeks ago
Workers of the World unite!!!!!!
xanji625 4 weeks ago
@xanji625 the funny thing is in a socialist country you probably would not have a computer
bajskorvaren 4 weeks ago
@bajskorvaren not necessarily... socialism is not a bad system. Capitalism does not always work. why judge such a system? let us be tolerant
xanji625 4 weeks ago
@xanji625 Socialism/capitalism are ideologies/ideas etc that are and should be very open for criticism, they are not sexual preferences or alike that needs to be "tolerated".
socialism is a horribel system where the state owns everything
socialism - all are slaves of the state
social democracy - all are slaves of eachother
regulated democracy (protected property etc) - the individual is free
bajskorvaren 4 weeks ago
@bajskorvaren In the history books people always say socialism is bad.. i read the socialist literary works rather than the biased sources
xanji625 4 weeks ago 2
@xanji625 I'm not talking about socialism in theory, im talking about socialism in practice, matter of fact socialism is a whole different thing in theory than in practice because people think giving all power to a few magically makes them to good person without reason for powerabuse
bajskorvaren 4 weeks ago
@bajskorvaren Socialism is a system of economic democratization and placing power equitably in the hands of all. It doesn't mean the big bad state owns everything. Workers own and manage the means of production and keep what they made (profit) instead of being wage-slaves in an, oppressive, undemocratic hierarchy where those who do the least work get the most money and make all the decisions i.e. Capitalism. Meanwhile Capitalists have bought what was the limited political democracy we had.
typenamehere19 3 weeks ago
@typenamehere19 thats how it works in theory, kinda, but point out to me one single socialist country where the people are in charge. also theres no such thing as a wage slave, wage are set by the market, all trading/working is voluntary and wont happen unless both parties benefit.
if you study capitalism you will soon realise why a guy investing a big portion of his savings on a project that can go bad or good, brings capital and hires workers earns more than the people not risking anything
bajskorvaren 3 weeks ago
@bajskorvaren You are right about investment often being successful, but slave wages have existed for a long time. Maybe no t in your country, but in others, for example, where the patron finds ways of endebting the worker to the hilt and there are no other choices to go to work to (this happens in very poor countries. ¡No wonder that poor people there get the strange idea of organizing against this situations!)
acoronab 3 weeks ago
@acoronab This is unfortunately a big problem in our society, we judge how rich we are compared to our society, like this is supposed to be the average standard of living and the rest of the world has low, matter of fact the Real standard of living is step 1, catching food with your hands. the freer people are economically the more a society can develop, todays western societies is built on the backs of our grandparents parents and so on who worked so we could have a better life, continued>>
bajskorvaren 3 weeks ago
@acoronab the stage we consider poor, which we see in developing countries like india, has a higher standard of living than the average human life through history, and it is a stage an economy has to go through to be prosperous and rich like us, the best way to help them grow is to let the free markets expand the developing countries economies.
If you removed the jobs the "wage slaves" had, who would benefit? matter of fact, having rich people investing in their countries is the best thing!
bajskorvaren 3 weeks ago
@bajskorvaren You seem to forget the revolt against injustice part, of which our grandparents took part too. Would that also be a stage, according to your view? Or is mowing down Spartacus for his best?
acoronab 2 weeks ago
@bajskorvaren There aren't any current examples because all three (The Paris Commune, The Spanish Revolution, and The Ukrainian Free Territory) to ever come about were crushed by force. Anyone earning a wage is selling their labor (themselves) in exchange for that wage. The Capitalist owns you for x hours a day, and exploits your work, giving far less than what you actually produced, but only so much as so you'll come back the next day to be exploited some more. That is wage slavery.
typenamehere19 2 weeks ago
Great video. I like it.
OriginalDeathpill 1 month ago
Our department that deals with our payments had been changed from 'Finance' to 'Rewards'. Fucking rewards! You can see how the psychology is filtering down. Human Resources: Im a unit of resource, not a person.
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Hey. That was pretty entertaining. Thanks
IntellectualMovement 1 month ago
Yeah what a crazy thought... individualism. The thought that men should create, sell, buy, succeed, and fail on their own.
THERepublic1971 1 month ago 2
@THERepublic1971You are Indeed correct...
Good that both you and me agree with this video :P
For the people!
slayer2961 1 month ago
Communism is only one step after socialism. Democrates and many others under the leadership of President B.O. have our country heading full speed ahead toward socialism.
weimlove64 1 month ago
@weimlove64 I just want to know, what efforts and measures is President B.O. and his appointed government taking to push america toward socialism? I'm just wondering. Because all I get out of this is mess and confusion.
VoshMusic 1 month ago
@VoshMusic They are not going to socialism my friend, but that is how the basic american is programmed to blame things when shit happends to them or their country..
Calling somone a communist(commie) is like calling somone a nigger or a chin there.
They take it pretty offencively cuzz there goverments like ours have been programming them simce the 40' s. This video is accurate to an extent hope it made things more clear for you.
Good day to you Sir.
And a Marry Christmas :D
slayer2961 1 month ago 2
@slayer2961 Thanks for the reply. Yes I don't understand why so many Americans think that their president has a socialist agenda. I guess you are right, this can only be put down to brainwashing, most of them seem biased towards socialism and communism without being able to explain what those words actually mean. Then again, there are some who seem to know perfectly well but still lean toward the idea of 'free market capitalism' which is what I thought caused this whole mess. happy new year :)
VoshMusic 1 month ago
@weimlove64 Capitalism has fractal problems.
TheHeidelbergKid 1 month ago
@weimlove64 That's a good thing...
OriginalDeathpill 1 month ago
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"Communism is theoretically a Utopian belief that may be true for some social group insects. In human term, it is practically impossible."
Chan Chau Taow (1970- )
taow222328 1 month ago
@taow222328 The failure of communism is do to circumstantial instances. There was now working class to organize themselves democratically because much of Russia was still based on feudalism. The small class that did exist was virtually wiped out due to WW2 and the civil war. This allowed Stalin (and to a lesser extent Lenin) to degenerate the state to there own interests and build state capitalism....no other "succesfull revolution" has had anything to do with communsim
1guitarkid 1 month ago
The onlything we need to slove in communism is how not to make people lazy. How to make everyone to give their best
lukazz434 1 month ago
@lukazz434 Perhaps we should force them with threats of violence?
FrankiePoker 1 month ago
@FrankiePoker no. then well be no better thab stalin
lukazz434 1 month ago
@FrankiePoker Then what? Profit motive?
FrankiePoker 1 month ago
Wonderful video, and I do agree with a lot of what it says, but I cannot shake the idea that capitalism is simply a more "political" way of explaining the basic structure of human nature. There will always be an alpha at the top.
TheFlyingJackal1 1 month ago
Brilliant demonstration of a socio-economic classic
Anarcommie 1 month ago
cultural relativism biasts judgements on idealized cultural norms
matthewgillaspy01 1 month ago
Ultra-leftist ideology stems from ONE major problem: They believe that wealth is not creatable. If it isnt, than that if the rich are richer, than the poor are poorest BECAUSE of the rich. Which is not the case whatsoever. Because theres no economic proof that having richer people makes the poor pooreer, communist and other forms of ultra-leftism falls apart completely. If the rich truely only got rich off the poor, the US would be the poorest country on earth.
GermanConquistador08 1 month ago
Marxists are so delusional!You actually believe,that a desperate fantasy-dream,though up by this loser proletariat-jew Karl Marx will actually,some day materalize?Jeeze,a total delusional fantasy of a classless society Utopia;an Aristocricy-less world,where everyone is equal?Aristocracy is a reality!Because they have brains!Proletariat?Ha,ha.Hell,marxists lack the brains to even understand the realized-workable concept of real Communism:"Totalitarian-Global-Elite--Corporatism!"That's COMMUNISM!
chuckolove 1 month ago
Stalin...Stalin was the greatest communist of the 20th century. He killed millions due to his failed agriculture experiment. He killed millins by starving them to death.
Stalin killed anyone who couldn't contribute anything to the state. Like his ape-man experiemnts of 1926 where his top scientists were put to work to try to create a submissive human with incredible strength. It couldn't be done so he sent the scientist in charge to the Gulag. Communism is a great failure. It's BS.
mikaylaboo1 2 months ago
@mikaylaboo1 Except from the minor detail Stalin is not to be considered communist. And i despise communists for my own reasons. But i don't say any obcure statement like that one. Pleaseee read some objective history articles... stalinism is not the same as communism... The founder and 1st leader or the Red Army(Communist's revolution army) was assasined by Stalin... as he also killed most of the boldest communists of his time... Communism sucks but not for these reasons, read a book or two..
WickedpersonY 2 weeks ago
@ TASSOS502
Someone needs to do his homework again, or seize making bad jokes.
National Socialism is not even an attempt of a government style. It was a short term idea to give the Nazis an high enough output of soldiers and weaponry to go to war.
National Socialism is like the brabbeling of a crazy man.
Either you yourself are a Nazi and furthermore counted as dumb enough to not see that this system in itself tried to trampel on people exactly like you .. or you are just a dude who is not funny
OppositionX99 2 months ago
I would rather attempt to secure an improvement for the public then follow a dead end like the "free market" is.
Free Market is very clear is as much a fever dream of an utopic world as is communism... both showed by history that they are flawed as FUCK and need to be rethought.
To put Free Market above Communism is pure and utter shit...
OppositionX99 2 months ago
@ stylophobia
Agreed! The ideology behind communism was rather interesting and was just surpressed because the America saw Russia, who under the rule of Communism grew to one of the biggest industrial nations of the world, as a threat to their supremacy. While we could argue (on both a philosophical and economical scale) about the rights and wrongs about communism, I would like to say that "Free Market", mentioned by jonescomplete are leading to a dystopia!
Fuck that!
OppositionX99 2 months ago
@stylophobia if you want a utopia, join a commune. We do not want to be cogs in your machine. Leave the rest of the world to free markets
jonescomplete 2 months ago
People have been brainwashed by the capitalists into thinking Communism is the same as what Stalin put in place. (Gulags/uniforms/marching around/secret police etc etc) Such a historic mistake that Gorbachev was way too late to preserve it (ie with free elections) as he had hoped ! Marxism zaps that crude, Stalinist peasant-based, militaristic ideology and restores his original inspiration and vision-that the rich, free world is the real basis for a fair and free socialist society.
stylophobia 2 months ago
fuck communism. There is no worse way of straining humanity. The real way to innovate technology and further man is through National Socialism.
TASSOS502 2 months ago
This is stupid. Let's keep it simple. It is a perversion of the truth. It sucks.
AmazGraz 2 months ago
Get government out of education and lobbyists out of Washington and you'll solve 70% of our problems in 10 years.
nalejbank 2 months ago
They believe in cartoons?
LordFhalkyn 2 months ago
Hey Mike which parts of Marx and Engels did you use... if you are interested in having a german translation read to your video. I would be more than happy to do so. let me know
hiltners 2 months ago
I am not a communist, but I do have a sense of humor and appreciate good work when I see it.
This cartoon montage is fun to watch and a very clever way to illustrate some of the main points of the manifesto. Well done!
EyeLean5280 2 months ago
Democratic socialism= the best of both capitalism and socialistic ideals
QueenMJade89 2 months ago
Fuck Commies. 2012 is Marxist hunting season.
RolandeMusic 2 months ago
save our constitutional republic, kill a communist!
combatmma1 2 months ago
Open market capitalism
Bourgeoise is a man at the top of the hill with 10 boxes of pizza he can't eat it all on is own...... be he sure as hell wants it
Prolatariate is at the bottom of the hill with one single slice of pizza and he's starving
childofreletivity 2 months ago 2
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@childofreletivity "Open market capitalism
Bourgeoise is a man at the top of the hill with 10 boxes of pizza he can't eat it all on is own...... be he sure as hell wants it
Prolatariate is at the bottom of the hill with one single slice of pizza and he's starving" - First of all, nice ripping off the Amazing Atheists work with the pizzas there. Secondly, the Bourgeoise eating more pizzas DOESNT mean he took those pizzas. He made them or people gave them to him.
GermanConquistador08 1 month ago
i dont see how this cartoon discredits communism or marx except for the part where he says workers unite for revolt. Isn't this cartoon a reality we live in today? these are the costs of capitalism, and we will need to find ways to solve some of capitalism's weaknesses.
MrBigEnchilada 2 months ago
there are alternatives to capitalism, im afraid they cannot be used on a global level with our modern sophisticated society. I think if people can rise above the self-interest ideal i think we can do it, but if not, capitalism is the best system.
MrBigEnchilada 2 months ago
ur voice is very depressing.....
llamascanplaynitendo 2 months ago
What a freak.
MrDevong 3 months ago
This is what socialists and communists truely believe in? Ok that is fucking scary. Communism and socialism created a large scale of Serfdom and suffocated production of goods and services to the point where people had nothing and it's a good system. ARE YOU FUCKING SERIOUS, My God under communism we have seen the greatest amount of Human misery in world history, just look at North Korea. The problems that commies see have to do with High Taxation, that is the real cancer.
Nightshift10000 3 months ago
@Nightshift10000 "I'm So Ronery I'm so ronery So ronery So ronery and sadry arone There's no one Just me onry Sitting on my rittle throne..."
MikeNobodyIsBack 3 months ago 7
@MikeNobodyIsBack Suprise Cockfag!
jtsegool 2 months ago
@Nightshift10000 you do realise all attempts so far of communism on a large scale have been incredibly far away from what Marx and Engels wrote. Marx's favourite moto was "question everything", now apply that to Stalin's "communism" and it doesn't quite fit
MrBasssex 2 months ago
@MrBasssex
In a similar vein to your comment, Marx also became concerned with what he viewed as a perversion of his and Engel's views under the banner of "Marxism." In refutation of this, the Great Man famously stated "I am not a Marxist."
Mikedundotta 2 months ago
@Nightshift10000 The regimes you are thinking of weren't communist, they maintained state-capitalist economies while politically were operated under party dictatorships.
Tsukae 2 months ago
@Nightshift10000 what you speak of is totalitarianism....oh and on the note of cancer, you will be saddened to learn that the real "pandemic" of cancer began with the capitalist industrial revolution, specifically, the over-use and widespread use of dangerous chemicals and pesticides which are all linked to causing cancer....OOPSS!!! Capitalism caused the huge spread of cancer to the point where we are now born with cancer cells.....
jmintube 2 months ago
@jmintube @jmintube We don't know what caused cancer to begin, the disease cancer may have began hundreds or thousands of years ago. Communism is a political cancer, it will inevitably result in totalitarianism which is an unfortunatey of it. Taking from people and redistributing their wealth doesn't help anyone. The Free Market is where all can have wealth undreamed off without anyone taking that away from anyone. How long will it take people to get it through Government is the problem.
Nightshift10000 2 months ago
@Nightshift10000 We had a free market economy once....at the turn of the industrial revolution, where america was a third world country....btw your argument is absolutely insane, by your logic, I could argue that free market capitalism will lead to fascism and corporatism........and what do you know!!! that is where we are today!
The free market will do nothing positive for society...it will simply continue the mass consumption/production model which is unsustainable.
jmintube 2 months ago
@jmintube You know I'd argue with this, but what's the fucking point.
Nightshift10000 2 months ago
@jmintube i am pleased to see somone finally getting the whole thing :D
Salute to you good Sir.
slayer2961 2 months ago
also communism is not that much of a cancer its just... not possible with humans. Thats one of the reasons the soviets got schooled that good and much in those times to be able to mentally handle the true concept of eventually having no goverment and restrictions what so ever and being able to live in balance.... thats the true idea of marx. however, due to stalinism this image had been reduced to only an idea rather than lenin' s vision of socialism.
slayer2961 2 months ago
the truth is we cannot be entirely free until we can live in complete balance with one another, and accept our differences rather than redicule and thumb down everything different from ours. i think for now a bundle of ideologies is be the best thing we are capable of doing. Somthing like a good socialist base for things like healthcare and foodproduction, a democratic middle in the goverment sector and a capitalist idea of market trade with restrictions against monopoly' s
slayer2961 2 months ago
atleast that' s the best i can think of at the moment.... Ill keep trying :)
slayer2961 2 months ago
@Nightshift10000 sure your wealth can be taken away :D
One word : BANKS
ive seen it happen before : I
one day you have everything you need, if you cant pay what the banks ask, youre on there mercy. Did you know that Fokker an older airplane builder company had over 200 orders the month before they went bankrupt? How? the planes costed +/- 20 million a piese? So tell me if wealth cannot be taken away then why did they go bankrupt while having over 200 orders worth 10 to 20 million Dollars each?
slayer2961 2 months ago
@slayer2961 Are you taking our current FEDERAL (Unfree market) banking system as the example? Oh shit, again I would explain how idiotic this is and how wrong communism is in comparison but again what's the use. Keep believeing government control over everything will save you and take care of you, have fun with that.
Nightshift10000 2 months ago
Simple , the banks placed such big sanction on them that they just didnt have the money to pay even with that massive amount of maoney they earned. Thats how the capitalist banking game goes :D have fun with the bills :D. Hope every1 who believed this is a good idea enjoys there big depth ratios as they go higher and higher.
slayer2961 2 months ago
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@Nightshift10000 1 Billion humans are permanently, severely undernourished. So long humans, workers, employees can not commonly own and control over what happens with their surplus production and their generated profits, 3 Billion humans that earn less than $2 a day will keep on being extorted by capitalism.
Democratize the economy, Workers Control over Production!☭
If you are against socialism you have no clue what it is.
marxists. org
noprofitmaximierung 1 month ago
A disagreement is when a man and his wife go to buy a car. He wants a blue car and she wants a pink one. It's a matter of taste, nothing more. Most of what the commies("Liberals" and 'progressives') do and try to do to the rest of us are not 'disagreements' but acts of war because they are very willing to have violence initiated against those who refuse to go along with their communism.
If you don't understand anything else, understand this: They view us as livestock.
waypasthadenough 3 months ago
@waypasthadenough Everyone is a "commie" to you. Get a clue, man.
MikeNobodyIsBack 3 months ago 10
@MikeNobodyIsBack saying a liberal isnt a commie is like saying magenta isnt a purple... its not as much... but who is to say its not in that direction?
wasup23tube 2 months ago
@wasup23tube By that reasoning, all conservatives are nazis. So, is Ron Paul a nazi?
MikeNobodyIsBack 2 months ago
It's way past time to repeal all of the 'gun laws' including GCA '68 and the NFA. It's way past time to shut down the evil BATF Nazis and try them for treason, and murder where appropriate and distribute their retirement funds among their victims. Then repeal the rest of the ‘gun laws,’ beginning with Illinois licensing requirements and New Yawk City’s Sullivan Law which only disarms the victims, then commiefornia’s ban on certain magazine and weapon types.
waypasthadenough 3 months ago
• It is not enough to say "Vote Ron Paul"
If you do not SWITCH PARTIES in time, 12 weeks in advance OF THE PRIMARIES IN MOST STATES (starting Late January 2012) your vote does not count! If you are not REGISTERED REPUBLICAN you can not vote Ron Paul in the PRIMARY If Ron Paul does not win the PRIMARY, he has no chance to win the election. Be the "Trojan Horse" be the "mole", infiltrate the system. FIND OUT when your state has its primaries.
Copy and paste this everywhere.
waypasthadenough 3 months ago
If you sit home waiting your turn you deserve to have your gun taken from your cold dead hands.
The Founders didn’t wait for the Brits to knock down their doors. They gathered at the green and stood up like men and they killed government employees all the way back to Boston.
What will you do when it’s time to hunt NWO hacks, republicrats and commies(“Liberals” and ‘progressives’)?
Don't understand? Follow my links. Read the quotes page first. Then read my column ‘Prepping for Slavery’
waypasthadenough 3 months ago
the only part of communism thats bad is the atheism part ( not that being atheist is bad beleive what you want)
evilicecubes 3 months ago
@evilicecubes The atheism part comes from common sense. It is rather obvious that the religions of the world are wrong and people who think great ideas like Marx naturally come to this conclusion. The bad thing about communism is that in order to maintain consensus on communism as a science based system, the people need to understand sociological and scientific reasoning and theory. This would result is the proletariat to evaporate and the workforce to cease. This is the real tragedy.
Voxnulla 3 months ago
@evilicecubes I think it should be beleive what you want, but keep it to yourself
thatkindofguy234 3 months ago
@thatkindofguy234 thats exactly what i said sorry if misunderstood
evilicecubes 3 months ago
I blame most countries for failing in communism not because the system sucks... but that it was done with poor preparation and the leaders were corrupt idiots. Can I also say that True communism has never actually been tried... I could also argue that I can name many capitalist countries that have failed also. Communism has only been tried in countries that were already in a terrible situation, we havent given it a fair try yet IMO...
thatkindofguy234 3 months ago 3
@thatkindofguy234 The fatal flaw of communism (as well as capitalism) is too much concentration of power. Corrupt idiots are drawn to power, in any form. Until a system without money is established, any system using it will eventually corrode and decay.
MikeNobodyIsBack 3 months ago 5
@MikeNobodyIsBack To an extent you are right, and to an extent you are wrong. The problems with Communism/Socialism are as you said, too much concentration of power. Capitalism however hypothetically would not suffer as much from these problems if it were not for a few key factors. Over-regulation/too much government control, lobbying power, the government not stopping monopolies/oligopolies, and if the market were allowed to run it's course without frequent bailouts etc.
CultistOfDagon 2 months ago
@CultistOfDagon Complaining about government meddling is just complaining about the employees (congress & the white house) doing what their bosses (wall street) tell them to do. Until you get corporations out of government, government will continue coddling corporations at everyone else's expense.
MikeNobodyIsBack 2 months ago
@MikeNobodyIsBack Actually I did make mention of that, aka reducing lobbying power. If you decentralize the government more, and reduce it's power in the economy, then not only would that curb the government being able to harm the economy, but it would also curb attempts by Wall Street to control the Economy in their own interest.
CultistOfDagon 2 months ago
@thatkindofguy234 Yeah :D just look at the smurfs, they seem to be doing well!
AXEMURDERERification 3 months ago
If communist ideals are so great, tell me how countries like the Soviet Union, The Eastern Block of Europe after WWII, Yugoslavia, Sandinista's Nicaragua, Cambodia, Cuba, China and North Korea are doing?
Answer: It SUCKS.
Good GOD what the hell are they teaching in schools today...
Swagman00 3 months ago
@Swagman00 You presume I am a communist. I am not. Nor am I a capitalist. Until you can comprehend that you will not understand. Marx, although flawed in his prescriptions, accurately diagnosed the problem.
MikeNobodyIsBack 3 months ago
@MikeNobodyIsBack WtH are you??? Carl Marx accurately diagnosed the problem. Do you know how many people Marx starved to death? Quite a prescription to his problem of un-controled masses.
moomawDarlene 3 months ago
@Swagman00 the soviet union was doing fine up until their leaders started abandoning the ideals it was founded upon realize that communism is a flawed idea due to the fact that humans are not common animals and not equal however socialism has many benefits, looking at nazi germany , if it didn't have to help italy it would have been just fine
codenamedwarfboy1 3 months ago
Karl and Groucho were always the most outspoken of the Marx Brothers. :)
GodsKid1963 3 months ago 2
Capitalism has provided the highest standard of living for the widest range of people the world has ever seen.
AroundSun 3 months ago 16
@AroundSun Slavery has provided the highest standard of living for the widest range of people the world has ever seen. Should we bring back slavery?
MikeNobodyIsBack 3 months ago
@MikeNobodyIsBack Slavery, in a capitalistic society, provide the highest standard of living for the widest range of slaves the world has ever seen. That's actually an argument FOR capitalism not slavery. Slavery wasn't a free economic system NOAM CHOMSKY you fucking brain dead economic and historical illiterate. Hmm, did the slaves have a right to life, liberty, and property? Did they have their own free will to act on their own best interests? Something tells me no...
AroundSun 3 months ago
@MikeNobodyIsBack so you're not refuting that capitalism has provided the highest standard of living for the widest range of people the world has ever seen? btw you're just wrong about the slave thing, unless you're some sort of monster that doesn't consider slaves people. Another thing, the north was more prosperous then the south and they didn't have slaves. Do you believe incentives matter at all? Do you believe in individual freedom? just curious
landwalker88 3 months ago
@landwalker88 Slavery is just capitalism to its fullest extent. BTW, slavery is not dead. Slave labor in third world countries today provides capitalism with continued cheap labor. Material incentives only matter to a certain point. This has been thoroughly studied and proven. Individual freedom is not absolute. The freedom to swing your arms stops at my face.
MikeNobodyIsBack 3 months ago
@MikeNobodyIsBack If you're referring to the cheap labor that say, nike gets hiring in third world countries, the fact is that the people that work in those factories choose to work there. The pay and working conditions are terrible compared to american standards, but the $2 they get a day sewing shoes together is a lot better then the alternatives, things like farming outside all day for 70 cents a day or even prostitution. Nike is looking out for itself and unintentionally helping others.
landwalker88 3 months ago
@landwalker88 No. Do I stutter? SLAVE labor. Slave CHILD labor. Although many industries may as well be owning slaves from the pitiful wages they offer.
MikeNobodyIsBack 3 months ago
@landwalker88 My right to swing my arm should stop at your face, but not before then. If I offer very low wages to people in third world countries and they accept those wages what's the problem? And on capitalism, if I'm willing to risk my capital starting a business and end up making a profit, I did the work so I should keep all that profit right? Sounds like freedom to me. Socialism forcibly takes my money and redistributes it, more closely related to slavery if you ask me.
landwalker88 3 months ago