Who wouldn't have loved to see more adventures with Captain Pike, Spock, Number #1, ect? Pike, such a fantastic character to explore! (The biggest difference betweeen Captain Pike and Captain Kirk is Kirk's sense of humour.)
Can anyone recommend a good 'Star Trek' with Pike and crew novel? There must be lots out there...
Who wouldn't have loved to see more adventures with Captain Pike, Spock, Number #1, ect? Pike, such a fantastic character to explore! (The biggest difference betweeen Captain Pike and Captain Kirk is Kirk's sense of humour.)
Can anyone recommend a good 'Star Trek' with Pike and crew novel? There must be lots out there...
oh Major Paul Davis ..damn he musta been in a stasis chamber for a couple centuries if he is showing up in the future in Star Trek..I guess he got tired of not getting promoted so he said "what the hell might as well I'm not getting anywhere here"
@Ingo64 not in the official history. However everyone seems to think kirk started on the enterprise. He didnt. it's only in recent history that people keep writing that as a story line.
@Ingo64 He served on those as a commissioned officer. Here he is still a cadet. I would liken his appearance here to the cadets on board Enterprise for a training mission in Star Trek II.
All the jibes about Cannon and such really get on my nerves. I am someone who is a true fan and I have no gripe about Cannon. That is why I was able to enjoy ST XI. Besides in the original series they started by violating there own cannon by changing the first Captain of the Enterprise because he wasn't well recieved.
I am old enough to have lived through all the series and all the movies (OT in rerun of course) I have been to multiple cons and met a lot of the stars. SO I AM A FAN OK!
@Unzotagain I would love to know where there has been gay trek. If there is anything like that it has been in the mind of those view and I guess that must include you! ;D
Permit me to explain why Kirks hair color changed from blond to black . Kirk got in so much trouble in starfleet academy that he thought he should try and change his image so he got the great great grand children of Queer Eye for the gay guy to give him a make over. *(who by time had a show called QE:Trek GUY) That is where the lighter hair came in. Later he went back to darker hair because the dyes we giving his pubic hairs a rash! At least that is what I was told.
Fact: The haters are always going to hate and call themselves "Caring" or "Purists", and that covers the spectrum from Bigot to Fascist. If you don't like the attempt to recapture lost glory, to go where the journey was cut off so early from taking us, then pack out your trash and hike for better territory. This obviously isn't for you and your comments don't make you look smart, sagacious, experienced or in any way a veteran of Trek. Think you can do better for no profit, show us or stuff it!
@elvampiro89 Totally disagree there. I think Colin Cunnigham is great (although I think the hair is a bit over the top!) and Bruce Greenwood was brilliantly cast in St XI.
It should also be noted that Pike was not well recieved in the original series and that was how Kirk became Captain of the Enterprise in the first place.
@wrlord I'll agree...but let's keep an open mind. Fan films have some big shoes to fill. They need to shape the characters into accepted canon. Some try to do it very well (like the Phase II folks), others not so much. Even the commercially-produced series and movies have their faults.
@talaxian1 I know. It morphed into what we now call "Star Trek: The Motion Picture"...I meant the 'current' Phase II folks (aka New Voyages). They're doing a superb job of keeping the dream alive.
The comments here for the most part are pretty pointless, even for us geeks. This scene works. I wish this scene was in J.J. Abrams' movie. My only problem here is that Kirk has black hair for some reason. I know this is a fan film, with a limited budget, and that an actor switch is license to change certain character traits ... but why black hair?
How do we know that this is Captain Pike? I saw no indication of the identity of the Captain in this clip. And if it was Pike, wouldn't Pike have known Kirk, at least by name, when he first encountered him in "in Harm's Way" earlier in the series? I find it much more likely that the Captain here is the C.O. of the Republic or some other starship.
@carloak9 Read the Description dude. It clearly states that it's Kirk getting dressed down by Capt Pike. So no way can it be the Republic. And it is clearly stated in the Phase II forums that this will take place on the enterprise which is an utter load of crap in my opinion.
It's the same bull that Phase II has been pulling. and yes @basherman69 I know about that violation. especially showing Pike as a Commodore in "In Harm's Way" when in fact he should have been fleet captain.
@thingjob many of us actually care, in case you didn't notice. If you don't, that's fine, your just not as hardcore a Trekkie as some of us who want Star Trek done right. Not this half-ass bit of oh were going to follow the canon only half the time and totally throw it in the trash when it gets in our way.
@carloak9 There is no "right" it's a webbased series based on star trek. they do the best they can with the money they have. In the end it's just a means of entertainment that you can either nit pick at and point out everything that is wrong or you can enjoy it for what it is.
@thingjob The thing is the big picture is made up of the little details. If the details are wrong the big picture will not look right or it will be surreal. If this is the Enterprise under Pike, then Pike should have recognized Kirk by name in "In Harm's Way". Sure he trained a lot of cadets but causing him to raise his voice like this would mean he made an impression on Pike. And Pike is a starship captain. A Job not one man in a million can do. He would have remembered.
Anyone here know when the next episode of Star Trek Phase II will be released?Previous episodes of the web series have been released as early as Thanksgiving but usually are posted by Mid-December. Since it is now late December, and I was once promised by an FX staff member from ST:P-II that the next episode would be out "sooner than you might think", I felt I needed to ask for a status report.
I hate to sound impatient, but principal photography for "The Child" was completed in mid-2008!
We keep getting these teaser videos, but no new episodes. I realize it's all for free and they all do this on their own time, but I wish they would not release teasers for episodes that won't be released for over a year.
It looks more like a screen test than an actual scene. And I hope it is nothing but a screen test. But if it is an actual scene, it violates Canon drastically.
If anyone at Phase2 really knows their Trek they would realize Pike never met Kirk till he made fleet captain (From the Menagerie Part 1). and about that same time is when Kirk would succeed Pike as the new Captain of the Enterprise.
But this I guess is what is expected of Phase II... Continuity errors that contradict official canon.
@CSK1 Well, technically it doesn't violate cannon if, IF, we go by the TNG episode Parallels, where it's establisted that an infinite number of alternate universes exists, and we just assume this is one of those parallel universes.
@Bucksavard28 But we cannot apply That episode of TNG to this. Since Technically NV/PII stated quite clearly they are completing the 5 year mission from the main universe. And the episode Origins is taking place in the main universe and focusing on kirks past.
No, what they are doing and what most fans don't realize from this clip, is that New Voyages and David Gerrold didn't wanna follow up and go back over the old episodes to learn about Kirks past and instead ripped off STXI which sucked.
@CSK1 Besides that, there is so many fan sites like Star Trek Wiki Memory Alpha That have complete documentation of Every character from every episode of the Original series, that NV/PII didn't need to go out and watch every episode, they could have looked it over and realized Kirk served as a Cadet aboard the USS Republic, and then as a Lieutenant aboard the USS Farragut. Not on the Enterprise. This is what has me mad about Phase II and the writer David Gerrold. Major Major Canon Violation....
@CSK1 I would have understood the canon vioations if it was still the 60's and possibly the 70's, but even in the 70's When they made ST TAS, Even Dorothy Fontana stated they had a major company that went back over the old episodes to search for Canon Violations, then would let them know if any thing they came up with violated Star Trek's Canon.
Today they have the internet and millions of fans to get in touch with to correct them if they violate canon at all. So no need for some company.
The Problem however is that they just don't care about the Canon Violation nor do they really care about Star Trek. They didn't wanna do the research, so decided they would do it their way and rip right off of Star Trek XI and place kirk under Pike instead...
Now not only Can I place NV/PII under Major Canon Violator, I can also place them under Major Rip-off series as well. I don't know how the episode will turn out, but from this clip alone, it says to me They don't care.
@CSK1 I know I'm being really harsh in saying they Don't care when they put so much time and effort into making the gorgeous sets they have, even getting George Takei and Walter Koenig to each do an episodes. But so far, It's been a major disappointment after the awful 2 part episode Blood and Fire. Which was also written by Gerrold as well. Honestly, I'm hoping that Enemy: Starfleet will impress me, but if not, I've lost all hope in James Cawley's fan series and will stop watching.
@CSK1 Hey, they killed off Chekov in one episode, "To Serve All My Days", then brought him back the very next episode, "World Enough and Time", no explanations whatsoever. Major Cannon Violations are the norm. :)
@CSK1 Cadet Kirk's presence on the Enterprise in this scene could just be a temporary training assignment while still serving the majority of cadet days on the Republic(at least I hope so..tired of canon violations myself)
@photonicus Are we sure that this is the Enterprise? Why couldn't it have been the Republic? His actions obviously didn't endanger the ship, as Finney's did. They (whatever they were) were a breach of discipline, and from the dialog a breach of the chain of command. That might be tolerated from a cadet, maybe, once. A mistake that could cost lives, and indeed an entire starship, such as Finney's obviously wouldn't be.
Yeah, that dressing down was a walk in the park. But then you think about it, and you know Pike isn't ass that alot of us have experienced in the military. I'll take a dressing down by Pike anyday.
Wow, was that on the Enterprise. Pike indicated they were in space, and it was his ship.
Hmmm... there's a lot of the story you havent seen yet... oh, I dunno... another 50+ minutes. If I were you, I wouldnt jump to any conclusions from one scene.
@goldenmediastudios As someone who is a soldier, I've gotten worse.. The finger point is an informal way of saying Fall In (to formation). Generally in the army from a NCO to a Junior Enlisted, a finger point like that means move to that position, get in the front leaning rest and start doing pushups. I thought it was a great scene.
Aw, the finger pointing right at the beginning managed to ruin the entire scene for me. It's so comical that I can't take the rest of the dress down, which is also very over acted, seriously.
Pike may seem tough with this reprimand,but Starfleet IS technically a military entity and we know Kirk problems with authority(unless it's his own,of course)Besides, if Kirk can't handle the yelling then he sure as hell isn't ready for Klingons!
Very good. I don't watch SG-1 or Galidor, but these two are obviously well-trained actors. And this is the "bigger-than-life" acting style that was common for a pre-80s TV show and absent from about 90% of the later Trek spinoffs including The Next Generation.
Seeing how it was a transporter room incident, I thought it was McCoy getting a dressing down before I watched it all the way through,, . Could have dyed 'Kirk's' hair lighter.
Didn't like the finger point (to stand THERE) at the begining. 'Kirks' facial reaction during this was a little over the top for me. I'd have thought he would have been a more controlled at least until 'Pike' left.
I do like Cunningham. Nice to see him in this role. But, I have to agree that this scene is a bit too dramatic. This can be explained, though, in that Kirk really is the only cadet that Pike would act this way with. Someone in Pike's position would not waste his time dealing with this behavior--- the cadet would be gone. But, there is history behind this particular cadet -- hence, Pike's reaction.
Great scene,but one thing I don't understand now. It said at the Trek Phase II site that Chuck Huber was gonna play Pike. But yes,Mr.Cunningham does an amazing job on the sometimes tempermental Pike,great job.
Chuck's other commitments prevented him from playing the role. We were fortunate, that on short notice, Colin took on the character and did a wonderful job.
@RobertMfromLI Okay thanks for the info on that rob. I was hoping to see Chuck as Pike,but yes Colin there does a fantastic job as the captain just the same. I look forward to this episode especially.
@stargeek5295 From Pike's reaction, I would hope it was something obviously stupid, serious, or disrespectful. One hopes that management styles would have improved by that time.
I agree with some other comments on here too. The acting IS good, BUT, (not to sound too nerdy), but, I also did think that Kirk and Pike didn't meet each other til a lot later.
@WannaBeatle Don't worry, considering David Gerrold wrote the episode, and DC did the final read on it, I suspect that it doesnt violate canon in any real way.
@KrytenMark Major Davis is a character from the show Stargate SG-1. he was portrayed by Colin Cunningham the actor who is playing captain pike in this scene
@darrellkaiser11285, I believe he said "keelhaul". It was the practice of tying a rope to a disobedient crewman and throwing him overboard, dragging him through the water under the keel of the ship. Surely only a metaphor on a starship.
I hope this plays better in context, because I'm having a hard time taking this seriously. Neither of these guys seem like the characters we saw on the show. Really enjoyed New Voyages/Phase II so far, but this seems a bit much.
This clip rocks!!!! Keep up the great work!! Star Trek Lives!!!!!!
Liteninbug 2 months ago
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Who wouldn't have loved to see more adventures with Captain Pike, Spock, Number #1, ect? Pike, such a fantastic character to explore! (The biggest difference betweeen Captain Pike and Captain Kirk is Kirk's sense of humour.)
Can anyone recommend a good 'Star Trek' with Pike and crew novel? There must be lots out there...
hossola77 2 months ago
Who wouldn't have loved to see more adventures with Captain Pike, Spock, Number #1, ect? Pike, such a fantastic character to explore! (The biggest difference betweeen Captain Pike and Captain Kirk is Kirk's sense of humour.)
Can anyone recommend a good 'Star Trek' with Pike and crew novel? There must be lots out there...
hossola77 2 months ago
Wow, Colin is great in this scene!
xucaen 2 months ago
Major Davis.... cool
cers001 2 months ago
stut the fuck up pike!
starwarstrekkie 3 months ago
Yeah, I don't really see Kirk on the verge of breaking down and crying like a little baby...
admiralhowdy 4 months ago
@admiralhowdy: Agreed. Kirk looking like he's going to start bawling is the weakest aspect of this particular scene.
Also, we get it Captain Pike that this is YOUR ship.
hossola77 2 months ago
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@admiralhowdy: Agreed. Kirk looking like he's going to start bawling is the weakest aspect of this particular scene.
Also, we get it Captain Pike that this is YOUR ship.
hossola77 2 months ago
oh Major Paul Davis ..damn he musta been in a stasis chamber for a couple centuries if he is showing up in the future in Star Trek..I guess he got tired of not getting promoted so he said "what the hell might as well I'm not getting anywhere here"
xadam2dudex 4 months ago
great scene! that was a professional ass chewing!
MrWayne1701 4 months ago
Was Kirk a cadet on the Enterprise? In his early years he served on different ships, the Farragut and the Republic.
Ingo64 4 months ago
@Ingo64 not in the official history. However everyone seems to think kirk started on the enterprise. He didnt. it's only in recent history that people keep writing that as a story line.
22centman36 2 months ago
@Ingo64 He served on those as a commissioned officer. Here he is still a cadet. I would liken his appearance here to the cadets on board Enterprise for a training mission in Star Trek II.
jtkirkfan2002 2 months ago
The guy playing Pike is fantastic! His facial expressions, his hard swallowing, griting of the teeth...all make his performance top notch.
The kid playing Kirk is very good too. But the guy playing Pike gets 5 out of 5.
ShadoEd100 5 months ago
Um...when did Kirk serve with Pike?
brianjlevine 7 months ago
Colin Cunningham is great on Falling Skies!
Ravencross06 7 months ago 2
All the jibes about Cannon and such really get on my nerves. I am someone who is a true fan and I have no gripe about Cannon. That is why I was able to enjoy ST XI. Besides in the original series they started by violating there own cannon by changing the first Captain of the Enterprise because he wasn't well recieved.
I am old enough to have lived through all the series and all the movies (OT in rerun of course) I have been to multiple cons and met a lot of the stars. SO I AM A FAN OK!
TheFlubber2kool 9 months ago
This makes me appreciate William Shatner's acting.
DeafFret 9 months ago
If that was Riker, he'd be weeping buckets by now! I really wanna see this!
VinnyMonster1 9 months ago
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Somebody got up on the wrong side of the bed and in the real world would get capped or messed up seriously.
TheDano1947 9 months ago
Somebody got up on the wrong side of the bed and in the real world would get capped or messed up seriouusly.
TheDano1947 9 months ago
What's that incredible sucking sound?
BFKate 9 months ago
I hope this is not going to be another Gay Trek. I'm tired of them going where no man should be going at all.
Unzotagain 9 months ago
@Unzotagain I would love to know where there has been gay trek. If there is anything like that it has been in the mind of those view and I guess that must include you! ;D
TheFlubber2kool 9 months ago
Permit me to explain why Kirks hair color changed from blond to black . Kirk got in so much trouble in starfleet academy that he thought he should try and change his image so he got the great great grand children of Queer Eye for the gay guy to give him a make over. *(who by time had a show called QE:Trek GUY) That is where the lighter hair came in. Later he went back to darker hair because the dyes we giving his pubic hairs a rash! At least that is what I was told.
Unzotagain 9 months ago
Wow, Cunningham has not aged between this and StarGate.
AeronPeryton 10 months ago
Fact: The haters are always going to hate and call themselves "Caring" or "Purists", and that covers the spectrum from Bigot to Fascist. If you don't like the attempt to recapture lost glory, to go where the journey was cut off so early from taking us, then pack out your trash and hike for better territory. This obviously isn't for you and your comments don't make you look smart, sagacious, experienced or in any way a veteran of Trek. Think you can do better for no profit, show us or stuff it!
MageIanBorthwick 10 months ago
Cunningham! :O
turb030031993 11 months ago
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TheGrawaren 1 year ago
wow this is actually really good i like
Anyhoodle7 1 year ago
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Curas1 1 year ago
not attractive enough to be
pike...kind of an insult to
jeffrey
hunter...just like the movie
pike..yuck!
elvampiro89 1 year ago
@elvampiro89 Totally disagree there. I think Colin Cunnigham is great (although I think the hair is a bit over the top!) and Bruce Greenwood was brilliantly cast in St XI.
It should also be noted that Pike was not well recieved in the original series and that was how Kirk became Captain of the Enterprise in the first place.
TheFlubber2kool 9 months ago 4
Damn fine acting on both those gentlemen's parts. Kirk looked about ready to burst into tears.
Mazel tov!
kb7rky 1 year ago 2
@kb7rky Which is a problem. That's just not Kirk... at any age.
wrlord 8 months ago
@wrlord I'll agree...but let's keep an open mind. Fan films have some big shoes to fill. They need to shape the characters into accepted canon. Some try to do it very well (like the Phase II folks), others not so much. Even the commercially-produced series and movies have their faults.
kb7rky 8 months ago
@kb7rky phase 2 wasn't a fan film. it was the (then planned) installment of the next Trek series in the 70's
talaxian1 4 months ago
@talaxian1 I know. It morphed into what we now call "Star Trek: The Motion Picture"...I meant the 'current' Phase II folks (aka New Voyages). They're doing a superb job of keeping the dream alive.
kb7rky 4 months ago
The comments here for the most part are pretty pointless, even for us geeks. This scene works. I wish this scene was in J.J. Abrams' movie. My only problem here is that Kirk has black hair for some reason. I know this is a fan film, with a limited budget, and that an actor switch is license to change certain character traits ... but why black hair?
ironhandz1 1 year ago
How do we know that this is Captain Pike? I saw no indication of the identity of the Captain in this clip. And if it was Pike, wouldn't Pike have known Kirk, at least by name, when he first encountered him in "in Harm's Way" earlier in the series? I find it much more likely that the Captain here is the C.O. of the Republic or some other starship.
carloak9 1 year ago
@carloak9 Read the Description dude. It clearly states that it's Kirk getting dressed down by Capt Pike. So no way can it be the Republic. And it is clearly stated in the Phase II forums that this will take place on the enterprise which is an utter load of crap in my opinion.
It's the same bull that Phase II has been pulling. and yes @basherman69 I know about that violation. especially showing Pike as a Commodore in "In Harm's Way" when in fact he should have been fleet captain.
CSK1 1 year ago
@CSK1 yeah and who cares?
thingjob 1 year ago
@thingjob many of us actually care, in case you didn't notice. If you don't, that's fine, your just not as hardcore a Trekkie as some of us who want Star Trek done right. Not this half-ass bit of oh were going to follow the canon only half the time and totally throw it in the trash when it gets in our way.
CSK1 1 year ago
@carloak9 There is no "right" it's a webbased series based on star trek. they do the best they can with the money they have. In the end it's just a means of entertainment that you can either nit pick at and point out everything that is wrong or you can enjoy it for what it is.
thingjob 1 year ago
@thingjob The thing is the big picture is made up of the little details. If the details are wrong the big picture will not look right or it will be surreal. If this is the Enterprise under Pike, then Pike should have recognized Kirk by name in "In Harm's Way". Sure he trained a lot of cadets but causing him to raise his voice like this would mean he made an impression on Pike. And Pike is a starship captain. A Job not one man in a million can do. He would have remembered.
carloak9 1 year ago
Anyone here know when the next episode of Star Trek Phase II will be released?Previous episodes of the web series have been released as early as Thanksgiving but usually are posted by Mid-December. Since it is now late December, and I was once promised by an FX staff member from ST:P-II that the next episode would be out "sooner than you might think", I felt I needed to ask for a status report.
I hate to sound impatient, but principal photography for "The Child" was completed in mid-2008!
basherman69 1 year ago
It's Major Davis from Stargate SG-1
nightwing4077 1 year ago
I wanna see Vic Mignogna as George Kirk dammit!
sukebestudios 1 year ago
We keep getting these teaser videos, but no new episodes. I realize it's all for free and they all do this on their own time, but I wish they would not release teasers for episodes that won't be released for over a year.
jtkirkfan2002 1 year ago
i can't imagine Spock actually calling anyone an ass...
kenefdz 1 year ago
It looks more like a screen test than an actual scene. And I hope it is nothing but a screen test. But if it is an actual scene, it violates Canon drastically.
If anyone at Phase2 really knows their Trek they would realize Pike never met Kirk till he made fleet captain (From the Menagerie Part 1). and about that same time is when Kirk would succeed Pike as the new Captain of the Enterprise.
But this I guess is what is expected of Phase II... Continuity errors that contradict official canon.
CSK1 1 year ago
@CSK1 The canon it violates is the established fact that Kirk was "positvely grim" and serious as a cadet. He wasn't a screw up.
jtkirkfan2002 1 year ago
@CSK1 Well, technically it doesn't violate cannon if, IF, we go by the TNG episode Parallels, where it's establisted that an infinite number of alternate universes exists, and we just assume this is one of those parallel universes.
Bucksavard28 1 year ago
@Bucksavard28 But we cannot apply That episode of TNG to this. Since Technically NV/PII stated quite clearly they are completing the 5 year mission from the main universe. And the episode Origins is taking place in the main universe and focusing on kirks past.
No, what they are doing and what most fans don't realize from this clip, is that New Voyages and David Gerrold didn't wanna follow up and go back over the old episodes to learn about Kirks past and instead ripped off STXI which sucked.
CSK1 1 year ago
@CSK1 Besides that, there is so many fan sites like Star Trek Wiki Memory Alpha That have complete documentation of Every character from every episode of the Original series, that NV/PII didn't need to go out and watch every episode, they could have looked it over and realized Kirk served as a Cadet aboard the USS Republic, and then as a Lieutenant aboard the USS Farragut. Not on the Enterprise. This is what has me mad about Phase II and the writer David Gerrold. Major Major Canon Violation....
CSK1 1 year ago
@CSK1 I would have understood the canon vioations if it was still the 60's and possibly the 70's, but even in the 70's When they made ST TAS, Even Dorothy Fontana stated they had a major company that went back over the old episodes to search for Canon Violations, then would let them know if any thing they came up with violated Star Trek's Canon.
Today they have the internet and millions of fans to get in touch with to correct them if they violate canon at all. So no need for some company.
CSK1 1 year ago
@CSK1
The Problem however is that they just don't care about the Canon Violation nor do they really care about Star Trek. They didn't wanna do the research, so decided they would do it their way and rip right off of Star Trek XI and place kirk under Pike instead...
Now not only Can I place NV/PII under Major Canon Violator, I can also place them under Major Rip-off series as well. I don't know how the episode will turn out, but from this clip alone, it says to me They don't care.
CSK1 1 year ago
@CSK1 I know I'm being really harsh in saying they Don't care when they put so much time and effort into making the gorgeous sets they have, even getting George Takei and Walter Koenig to each do an episodes. But so far, It's been a major disappointment after the awful 2 part episode Blood and Fire. Which was also written by Gerrold as well. Honestly, I'm hoping that Enemy: Starfleet will impress me, but if not, I've lost all hope in James Cawley's fan series and will stop watching.
CSK1 1 year ago
@CSK1 Hey, they killed off Chekov in one episode, "To Serve All My Days", then brought him back the very next episode, "World Enough and Time", no explanations whatsoever. Major Cannon Violations are the norm. :)
basherman69 1 year ago
@CSK1 Cadet Kirk's presence on the Enterprise in this scene could just be a temporary training assignment while still serving the majority of cadet days on the Republic(at least I hope so..tired of canon violations myself)
photonicus 1 year ago
@photonicus Are we sure that this is the Enterprise? Why couldn't it have been the Republic? His actions obviously didn't endanger the ship, as Finney's did. They (whatever they were) were a breach of discipline, and from the dialog a breach of the chain of command. That might be tolerated from a cadet, maybe, once. A mistake that could cost lives, and indeed an entire starship, such as Finney's obviously wouldn't be.
carloak9 1 year ago
Wow Pike's Pissed!
stapletonm14 1 year ago
I wonder. Is this coming out about the same time the next movie comes out. It will be a heck of a year for Star Trek, all around.
Seriously51 1 year ago
Yeah, that dressing down was a walk in the park. But then you think about it, and you know Pike isn't ass that alot of us have experienced in the military. I'll take a dressing down by Pike anyday.
Wow, was that on the Enterprise. Pike indicated they were in space, and it was his ship.
Seriously51 1 year ago
If that was Riker, he'd be crying by now.
VinnyMonster1 1 year ago
I enjoy and respect the efforts of the Phase 2 folks.
However, the Frank Burns with balls version of Chris Pike is just plain wrong.
The Kirk-as-a-rebel-that-must-be tamed by a sufficiently high testosterone mentor meme may be valid, but it's boring and takes us nowhere new.
To Blandly Go, Where We've Already Assumed Before!
SonOfArgo 1 year ago
@SonOfArgo
Hmmm... there's a lot of the story you havent seen yet... oh, I dunno... another 50+ minutes. If I were you, I wouldnt jump to any conclusions from one scene.
RobertMfromLI 1 year ago
Hey, I was there, six feet away during those scenes, and the power and talent these guys gave to their acting was simply breath-taking.
I'm honored to have been there.
PonyHorton 1 year ago
on...my...ship...
Can this guy try any harder? Jesus man talk about over acting. And Kirk is always on the verge of tears. God.
The finger point is CLASSIC.
goldenmediastudios 1 year ago
@goldenmediastudios Been in a similar situatuon in RL. And that is pretty much what its like.
VinnyMonster1 1 year ago
@goldenmediastudios As someone who is a soldier, I've gotten worse.. The finger point is an informal way of saying Fall In (to formation). Generally in the army from a NCO to a Junior Enlisted, a finger point like that means move to that position, get in the front leaning rest and start doing pushups. I thought it was a great scene.
DocHellfish 1 year ago
Aw, the finger pointing right at the beginning managed to ruin the entire scene for me. It's so comical that I can't take the rest of the dress down, which is also very over acted, seriously.
JarodRussell 1 year ago
Pike may seem tough with this reprimand,but Starfleet IS technically a military entity and we know Kirk problems with authority(unless it's his own,of course)Besides, if Kirk can't handle the yelling then he sure as hell isn't ready for Klingons!
photonicus 1 year ago 7
Very good. I don't watch SG-1 or Galidor, but these two are obviously well-trained actors. And this is the "bigger-than-life" acting style that was common for a pre-80s TV show and absent from about 90% of the later Trek spinoffs including The Next Generation.
USSLexington1709 1 year ago 2
Seeing how it was a transporter room incident, I thought it was McCoy getting a dressing down before I watched it all the way through,, . Could have dyed 'Kirk's' hair lighter.
Didn't like the finger point (to stand THERE) at the begining. 'Kirks' facial reaction during this was a little over the top for me. I'd have thought he would have been a more controlled at least until 'Pike' left.
HugoDuprey 1 year ago
great scene, though could of been better
coolrosetyler 1 year ago
I do like Cunningham. Nice to see him in this role. But, I have to agree that this scene is a bit too dramatic. This can be explained, though, in that Kirk really is the only cadet that Pike would act this way with. Someone in Pike's position would not waste his time dealing with this behavior--- the cadet would be gone. But, there is history behind this particular cadet -- hence, Pike's reaction.
EYEGROKSPOCK 1 year ago
FLEET CAPTAIN CHRISTOPHER PIKE - Fragged By His Own Troops
darrellkaiser11285 1 year ago
The kid playing young Kirk rocks! Very good scene.
gnore 1 year ago 5
Great scene,but one thing I don't understand now. It said at the Trek Phase II site that Chuck Huber was gonna play Pike. But yes,Mr.Cunningham does an amazing job on the sometimes tempermental Pike,great job.
Dunes 1 year ago
@Dunes
Chuck's other commitments prevented him from playing the role. We were fortunate, that on short notice, Colin took on the character and did a wonderful job.
Rob
RobertMfromLI 1 year ago
@RobertMfromLI Okay thanks for the info on that rob. I was hoping to see Chuck as Pike,but yes Colin there does a fantastic job as the captain just the same. I look forward to this episode especially.
Dunes 1 year ago
Great, but what did Kirk do?
stargeek5295 1 year ago
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knoodelhed 1 year ago
@stargeek5295 From Pike's reaction, I would hope it was something obviously stupid, serious, or disrespectful. One hopes that management styles would have improved by that time.
knoodelhed 1 year ago
@stargeek5295 We cant spoil that for you yet, can we? Wait and see... :-)
RobertMfromLI 1 year ago
I agree with some other comments on here too. The acting IS good, BUT, (not to sound too nerdy), but, I also did think that Kirk and Pike didn't meet each other til a lot later.
WannaBeatle 1 year ago
@WannaBeatle Don't worry, considering David Gerrold wrote the episode, and DC did the final read on it, I suspect that it doesnt violate canon in any real way.
RobertMfromLI 1 year ago
WOW! Now that is some awesome acting! That man is a real pro! Well done to him!
Also, this is gonna sound silly... Who's Major Davis? I never saw the whole original series!
KrytenMark 1 year ago
@KrytenMark Major Davis is a character from the show Stargate SG-1. he was portrayed by Colin Cunningham the actor who is playing captain pike in this scene
Mattboesch8917 1 year ago
@Mattboesch8917 Ah, I see! Thanks mate! :)
KrytenMark 1 year ago
"KEYHOLE YOUR ASS?!"
darrellkaiser11285 1 year ago
@darrellkaiser11285, I believe he said "keelhaul". It was the practice of tying a rope to a disobedient crewman and throwing him overboard, dragging him through the water under the keel of the ship. Surely only a metaphor on a starship.
theinquisitor 1 year ago
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knoodelhed 1 year ago
@darrellkaiser11285 He said "keelhaul."
jjmfrees 8 months ago
I hope this plays better in context, because I'm having a hard time taking this seriously. Neither of these guys seem like the characters we saw on the show. Really enjoyed New Voyages/Phase II so far, but this seems a bit much.
rogermccoy 1 year ago 2
@rogermccoy
Oh, it does play better in context. And remember episodes like "Shore Leave" where mention of Kirk's academy days is made.
RobertMfromLI 1 year ago
I thought that Kirk said that the first time he met captain Pike was when captain Pike was promoted to fleet captain. in the prime Timeline.
bestmoviesever1 1 year ago
He'll always be Major Paul "Disaster" Davis to me.
Mattboesch8917 1 year ago
Quite brilliant thank god its a seperate universe from trek 09 becuase i love that movie as well cant wait for rigins
Rockzalo12 1 year ago
Cool it's major Davis.
Mattboesch8917 1 year ago
@Mattboesch8917 and steve from jpod
thefantasticamater 1 year ago
so is this real.
thewewguy8t88 1 year ago
Seems a little over dramatic.
CJCA915 1 year ago
"...ON MY SHIP!" lol
FekLeyrTarg 1 year ago 2