there is something hypocritical about the master telling one kid to gtfo and to never return while telling the other kid to always trust but to expect the unexpected. Sorry, I dont buy it.
Why was the kid told to leave the temple? I definitely don't agree with that. People make mistakes. The kid as a result of this learns nothing from his mistake.
@brianmenendez I think we all prefer the familiar patterns of order that emerge from the chaos. I guess it's always preferable to have some level of order in our life. We all like to think there will be food to eat, water to drink and air to breathe tomorrow and all the days beyond. Chaos is uncertainty and even if something better could ultimately emerge from this, we still prefer certainty. Although, quantum physics has shown, there can never be absolute certainty - only ever probability.
How does the master know that grasshopper didn't say that just to be different from his friend, if he asked grasshopper first, he may have said trust none himself. You do not understand, what do you think this is a school to learn from your mistakes, oh wait it is, never mind get out and starve on the streets.
UKIP BE LIKE THE PRE COMMUNIST CHINESE, LETS MAKE ALLIES WITH THE EU IN THE SAME WAY THE GREAT WALL OF CHINA ASKED THE HUNS TO CALM DOWN AND LIVE A LIFE OF HARMONY WITH US? ; )
The thing that strikes me is that Ho Fong is dismissed for not learning the "right" lesson. My question is does this dismissal harden him or does he see the error of his ways and become more benevolent. Should not the one who "missed" the lesson be held closer to the source of wisdom that he might learn. I see this in my job, we send the the best and the brightest to internships and those barely passing are cast into the world. Perhaps we should reverse that
Not reverse it, but I don't understand how one single error can be evidence of such a deeply flawed character so as to make future attempts to train the kid a waste of time.
@duchessofpercy This reminds me of a situation I witnessed on the NorthShore of Oahu many years ago. The town&country team manager was telling me how he's against violence in the surf. And to make a point, he told me of a time he was surfing Velzyland (heavy local spot), and saw a local punching a white guy. He was so upset, the TC manager went to the local guy and punched him in the face. The TCM didn't see any flaw in his thinking. I knew then I was dealing with a moron beyond redemption.
If he truelly loved he would not cast a stone out who had miss interpreted that he should never trust a stranger...
I understand that if he can never trust anyone the child that is so you can never trust him... however he said when one nail bends do we lose faith in all nails... I would hope he picked the nail up tried straighten the nail out... if this failed he took the nail heater it up straightened it out... the nail my not be perfect... but how can any nail be perfect... it can only be!
atfatw- So the English are an incredibly racist people- a people who outlawed slavery 50 years before the the United States, a people who welcome more immigrants from Eastern Europe( and has always done so) than virtually any other, a country who had a Jewish Primeminister over a hundred years ago, a country who voted an half American the greatest Britain ever.I could go on and on.
@mercian7 All countries that practise patriotism are racist & xenophobic at some level. Every nation adopts the paradigm that their people & traditions are better than all others. Unfortunately it is this thinking that has produced our highly fragmented world of war & destruction; where the very planet that sustains us is at the tipping point of no return. For the sake of our children, it's time we all adopt the philosophy of Thomas Paine, "The world is my country & to do good is my religion."
@TaoFAQ Patriotism isn't always a double-edged sword. I have great respect for my country yet I have the humility to notice it's faults such as how it's leaders make increasingly foolish choices.
@Mystrymeat The truth is that everyone in the world believes there nationality, religion and customs are the best and "those foreigners are a threat to our way of life". Our political leaders deliberately indoctrinate us into these beliefs because populations are much easier to control through fear and patriotism. I hope one day we will all adopt the doctrine of Thomas Paine: "The world is my country and my religion is to do good." (alias TaoFAQ)
@yinyangnature I've never understood the human nature in that sense. It's similar to how politicians say that "terrorists" are "threatening our freedom" but in truth, we are threatening our own freedom by fearing them. Homeland security laws are slowly permitting the government to dip into our private life unannounced.
It seems more confusing to me that we are accustom to living our lives in this world to be fearful, untrusting and discouraged. If we are to strive for peace within the world, we must continue to seek out the potential good in everyone and be encouraged to trust in each other. Obviously we must not be naive, but it is foolish to close ourselves off to a world entirely made up of strangers.
I find the dismissal fitting and deserved. We must begin to believe in trust; for the future.
To me, this is probably one of the most important videos I've watched of these series. There is something specifically about this scene that strikes a chord with me
@ApollyonProductions This scene has always created a lot of confusion & debate on this channel. I guess it's because people believe the benevolent should never engage in rejection.
As children we couldn't understand why our mothers took us to school and left us behind when she did this for the very first time. It's only when we look back at this moment now, we see our mother did this with a great deal of love. For her only intent was that her child evolve to a higher level.
@yinyangnature - there is no such thing as a higher state... if you believe there is higher state... then there is a higher state.... no person is higher or lesser evolved only evolved in nature of there path... for example a river flows in the direction it is forced to... it does not choose its path it just goes on this path... the ground lays where it may lie it is no better then river because it channels it... nothing is more... when we stive for more we lose touch with al else.
@yinyangnature - in other words if a person believes by sending his child to the gas chamber is correct and regreats it but knows they will go straigh to heaven because this is what there told in there higher evolution does this make it true or is it that they have not expected the unexpected. Life is a great teacher a school is part of life but it can not teach you more then anyone else... or anything else... it can only teach you what your told or desire it can't teach you truth! or tao!
@yinyangnature - let me put it another way... one persons right maybe anothers wrong.... but anothers wrong maybe right... you must know by looking at a yin yang that good is in bad and bad in good... but how do you determain what is truelly good and truelly wrong... I think many define love as correct and I would say this too... but I could still be wrong! To be sure or not sure, how can you ever be sure... you can't you can only be! Existence. Thats it: like a tree, your no more alive then it!
brothers and sisters, it is not that "they" have brought evil upon us, we created this by straying away from our spiritual practices..."the only reason that evil triumphs, is when the good remain silent"
@OneEyedJack1970 All the world's great teachings r grounded in benevolence. The advantage of not limiting ourselves 2 just our own cultural beliefs is that we soon begin 2 see the fundamental spiritual harmony of all people. This also brings new light & understanding 2 our own beliefs. We soon see that all the world's people r but One. Once we all have this same understanding we can then evolve together 2 a lasting peace; beyond the ideology & self-righteousness so prevalent in the world today.
@jackabus I've heard this claim many times, but nobody's ever showed me the sources from which it was supposedly plagiarized, or even named them. Without such sources, this claim is totally without merit..
@jamesellis33 I'm familiar with Gilgamesh. And Enkidu. And Humbaba. And Ishtar. And the bull of heaven. And Utnapishtim (whose boat was a big cube). The only similarity to the Bible there is a flood story, only it lacks a ship that would actually be seaworthy.
to those who feel ho fong was kicked out unjustly, i honestly don't think that would have been something that would have really happened.
i think, since it's a scripted show, they used it to show how important it is to learn to trust. time and time again humans have shown that they CAN change, so it's obviously unrealistic to kick a young boy from the temple for simply answering wrongly. it's probably used as a way of showing how when we lose the ability to love, we lose the right path entirely.
the real shaolin monks were self righteous hypocrites and massacred many chinese Christians during the boxer rebellion. many of the monks went on to form the infamous chinese traids or mafias.
@atfatw That is not true at all. Quite the opposite occurred with the so called "Christians" attacking the Shaolin and burning the temples because they considered them to be pagan savages and instruments of the devil. The irony is, the Shaolin monks practiced more of what Jesus taught than his followers do.
@atfatw You're delusional. The Triads have nothing to do with Shaolin. Shaolin monks detest violence and take an oath of pasisiveness. During the Boxer Rebellion many monks fled to this country because of persecution. I studied under a monk whose lineage goes back to these very monks. I know the history of Shaolin and its philosophy.
I find it interesting that the three religions that descend from Abraham promote violence and intolerance whereas the Eastern ones teach love and kindness
@stockscalpe ah, noooo! heathen your monk is deceiving you it it well known that the so called benevolent monks turned killer and founded triads face up to it there is evil and evil people in every religion
@atfatw Speaking as an Englishman, I think you will find any aggression resulting from the Boxer Rebellion resulted from the English deliberately getting the Chinese addicted to opium. They did this because the Chinese refused to trade with the English, on the grounds that they had everything they needed. There is ample evidence that the English God was not the Biblical God but an acronym for Gold, Oil & Drugs and they successfully used this "God" to control the world up until WWII.
@yinyangnature, how right you are one of the most evil things ever done in history the massed drug addictions the english (an incredibly racist people) were responsible for.
the iron fact that exists even today and throughout forever was that chinese massacred Christians and that zen shaolin played a significant role in these mass murders.
@atfatw It wasn't that the English were racist. After all we outlawed slavery long before the US & without a civil war. Up until 1946 the Bank of England was controlled by private bankers for over 200 years. It was the bankers that sent the British navy all over the world to oppress and control others for profit. Incidentally it is the descendants of these bankers that now control the US FED. A private bank, not an arm of government. This is why the US is now involved in wars all over the world.
In the west we question our teachers, this is unthinkable at a temple such as this. Though they are learned in the dao, they are buddhist priests and that usually comes with some conditions; the reality is most applicants to the shaolin were there for personal or familial ambition, it's a wonder they were as patient as the were. Trying to judge another culture from a different cultural perspective is a little like trying to eat soup with a fork.
Well remember that this is a work of fiction made to introduce a western audience to eastern culture. Perhaps it was an oversight in that they didn't predict that there would be room for miss-understanding. Regardless, this is where I think a little bit of traditional western philosophy may drive home the point. From Mark 2:17;
On hearing this, Jesus said to them, "It is not the healthy who need a doctor, but the sick. I have not come to call the righteous, but sinners."
@WSWarthog Not western philosophy, Jesus himself was Jewish and lived in Southwest Asia. Christianity would be more of an eastern view than a western, though not entirely either.
what do u mean not suited? it was this this "master kan" who also said that to be justice, there must be evil. to be peace, there must first be unrest. and that they were a two ended opening of cowardice and strength. Who is he to deny humanity or it's salvation? He may not be able to become a perfect monk, but who needs to be perfect?
Merlyn1978 wrote: "I think what master kahn saw was that the thieves took...from that boy...his trust. And that's something that couldn't be returned." END. I agree, well said! He wasn't cast away; he'd done that to himself when he closed his mind to other people; he'd now prejudge people, stereotype them w/out even knowing them and all because of one bad experience!He's now dogmatic and ready to divide than unite which is what most religions/people do which is why he was told to leave!
I don't think it was a punishment really. I think what master kahn saw was that the thieves took not only their clothes...but from that boy they took his trust. And that's something that couldn't be returned. I think something to that effect was mentioned in Alathea. The one with Jodie Foster.
I am Japanese. I often saw these programs on TV about 30 years ago. It looked forward every week. The hero is doing Odyssey also in Japan. I am sorry for my poor English. Thank you for reading this with your gentle feeling.
Your english is excellent. No misspelling, no bad grammar. Perfect sentence structure. (Sure that "It" can be over looked, shoud've been "I" and to put "to it" between the words "forward" and "every") But hey, you type better english than a lot of the people that KNOW english so it's excellent. I also like how you added the words "gentle feeling" at the end. A little unorthodox but still accepted in modern English.
WEIRD....this monk told the exact same words but different than JESUS told us long ago...do good deeds for others and never expect something in return.
Master Kan should be aware that he benefited from the knowledge and experience shown to him by his elders at Shaolin temple , and Ho Fong is but just starting to be a apprentice monk , he need all the guidance he can get , to be expelled for just the slightest mistake only taught Ho Fong to be merciless and unforgiving as for Kwai Chang Caine , he got all the producers and director backing him , Ho Fong does not
I think we are all missing the lesson in this clip. It is not about the fictitious character Ho Fong or Master Kan. Its about the importance of trust and if one loses faith in others, based on a bad experience, one is robbed of lifes greatest joys. For the greatest trust of all is love and one who can not trust also is unable to love.
But you must understand one thing , I could he judged and penalised Ho Fong just becos he reason by a child's standard , for goodness sake he is just a child who is learning everyday and of course there will be mistakes made
As for Master Kan , where is his grace and mercy ?
Ho Fong was just robbed , it is human for anyone to feel indignant , and to be penalised for it is the greatest injustice , Master Kan should learn mercy
You mentioned that its really isn't any different to a colour blind person being unable to become an electrician or a person with flatfeet unable to join the military that Ho Fong was expelled
Those are physical deficiencies , Ho Fong's expulsion was not due to these reasons
he was a victim of a draconian and unforgiving monk who have no tolerance for innocent and childlike errors
Those that have never made a mistake in their lives are most likely the ones that never learn anything
Its so easy for Master Kan to mutter all these mindless philosophies while sitting in a room fully fed and covered by the Shaolin temple management , throw him out to the real world for a month or two and he will be a different man , might turn into a pot smoking hippie too
I always advised my daughters to take the more difficult path,and thus ,they did...and are now upstanding members of our society with much to offer fellow human beings.
... and thus begins the saga of Ho Fong, sworn enemy of all the Shaolin, doomed to wander the Earth taking his bitter vengeance out on those who scorned him.
Who is to say that Ho Fong didn't learn a very valuable lesson and maybe went on to be a sage himself?
Whenever something 'bad' happens to us, it is always an opportunity to either take the easy road and become spiteful; or take the very difficult Path and grow. The choice is always ours.
What road will you take the next time you feel rejected and hurt?
"What road will you take the next time you feel rejected and hurt?"
Well, I'm a grown man, unlike Ho Fong, so I will probably understand a rejection as a lesson. But Ho Fong is a child. I am a teacher, and I would never give up on a student so quickly and blithely, for one mistake.
At the end, love and trust persist. Ho Fong would learn his lesson to trust and would be forgiven. Expect the unexpected and don't be quick to judge a teacher's by his firm lessons.
Ho Fong is expelled from the temple because he did not learn / interpret the lession in an acceptable way for his master.
If this lesson is so important for Master Ken - isn't there another way in teaching Ho Fong the importance of trust in all humans - other than to cast him out?
I like this expression "The supple willow not contention with the storm yet, It survives" Hu Hu Hu Pierce to my mind sharp word is sharper than knife...
We all act according to our nature, as the fable The Scorpion and the Frog points out. Therefore, with trust must come caution, and being cautious is merely being aware of the possibility of deceit. Master Kan mentions being prepared for evil, and being cautious is exactly that. "Expect the unexpected" is perhaps a poor choice of wording for Caine but in essence, he is mandating caution.
I think it's ok to use the concept of evil as long as you understand that it is a relative term and not an absolute. To the rat, the cat is evil, but to the universe it is not.
Notice Ho Fong's choice of wording "NEVER trust a stranger" - it indicates he learned prejustice towards others. Such is deemed as anger towards G-d that He allows bad things to happen.
Kwai Chang on the other hand is humbled, and doesn't think illy of the stranger, rather he sees the better good within the misfortune.
The difference isn't just a minor slip on wording. The difference is a religious outlook on life, to "know G-d" in all your ways. Such an outlook should always be present. Feelings of anger are forgivable however it should never corrupt one's view and be verbalized that misfortune happens without fortune coming with it. The disciple is expected to learn this from the Yin Yang - that evil balances good and vice versa.
Some things can not be teach with words, but with experience. Ho Fong must learn from the lesson that Kwai Chang learned himself about the incident and must learn to trust people again. Words can make him only aware of this on the surface, but his distrust of strangers would always be with him, if Master Kan not let him learn the hard way.
In regard to strangers, there isn't much difference between "expecting the unexpected" and "not trusting strangers". The point the master is making is in regard to misfortune in general. By mistrusting someone, it is your way of showing negative feelings towards them due to the harm received on your part. A G-dly man is immune to harm and sees the good that comes with the misfortune. "Expecting the unexpected" doesn't show hostile feelings towards anybody - thus he wasn't really harmed.
The student must learn to trust strangers. If he stays in the temple, he may never have to deal with strangers. He must "return" to trust stangers. HE cannot "return" to the temple, but he can "return" to the others that he will be forced to rely on and serve.
Kahn says"return to us, never" he must "return" to his cautious trust of strangers, and being turned into a wanderer will do that.
Thanks for an awesome clip! This was one of my favorite tv series as a child. I even had the record album. This is one of the best kung fu scenes ever!
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Disregarding that this is fiction; Master Kan may seem extraordinary harsh. However, we are looking at this from our fragmented perspective of the world. A Shaolin student would have been instructed in the illusion of separateness and unity of all things. Therefore, a Shaolin student saying that he would never trust a stranger is demonstrating great contempt for a very fundamental Shaolin belief.
I see. But as the master said love is greater than good. Would it not be better to teach the student why it is necessary to trust even in the event of exploitation. The master may have created the ultimate separateness in the student by rejecting him. If love is the ultimate value, how can the student know this is true by being rejected. Just my thoughts, I enjoy your videos. Thanks :o)
What we see as harshness by Master Kan, he may have meant as kindness. Master Kan may have thought it better to let Ho Fong go now, than to put him through the endless trials of the Shaolin. After all, there will be many who never truly grasp the Way of the Tao, and to be a priest of the Shaolin this would never do.
Or maybe Ho Fong was just very unlucky to be met by the very stern Master Kan and not the far more lenient Master Po! ;-)
there is no such a thing as fundamental shaolin belief , shaolin temple is but one of the many temples across asia that practices zen Buddhism and zen is in fact the fundamental belief , it so happens that shaolin also practices exercises that evolved into martial arts ,
grace , mercy , forgiveness as well as tolerance does not go contrary to Shaolin's creed , alas Master Kan shown non of these traits in the series
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there is something hypocritical about the master telling one kid to gtfo and to never return while telling the other kid to always trust but to expect the unexpected. Sorry, I dont buy it.
runawayfob 4 days ago
That's pretty harsh to kick him out of the temple for an incorrect answer. What's accomplished by that? Give him a chance to learn.
hulkout666 1 week ago
These lessons may be beyond the scope of understanding by today's peoples.... sad.
Kurr63 1 month ago in playlist Kung fu
Why was the kid told to leave the temple? I definitely don't agree with that. People make mistakes. The kid as a result of this learns nothing from his mistake.
Knightus100 1 month ago
Trust, but expect the unexpected you are still not in fully trusting,
altha2008 3 months ago
@altha2008 Yet in a Universe derived from Chaos, is it not foolish to prepare for occasional randomness?
yinyangnature 3 months ago
@yinyangnature you assume the universe is derived from chaos, you could also assume the universe is derived from order, which do you prefer?
brianmenendez 2 weeks ago
@brianmenendez I think we all prefer the familiar patterns of order that emerge from the chaos. I guess it's always preferable to have some level of order in our life. We all like to think there will be food to eat, water to drink and air to breathe tomorrow and all the days beyond. Chaos is uncertainty and even if something better could ultimately emerge from this, we still prefer certainty. Although, quantum physics has shown, there can never be absolute certainty - only ever probability.
yinyangnature 2 weeks ago
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"@brianmenendez I think we all prefer the familiar patterns of order that emerge from the chaos."
once again you assume order emerges from chaos
"We all like to think there will be food to eat, water to drink and air to breathe tomorrow and all the days beyond."
this is not true for a suicidal person
"Although, quantum physics has shown, there can never be absolute certainty - only ever probability."
that assumes that plank's constant will always be constant
brianmenendez 2 weeks ago
@altha2008 Yes, you are fully trusting in change. Expecting the unexpected is another way of saying: the only certainty in life is change.
@yinyangnature is it not also foolish in a Universe derived from chaos to believe that our preparations will protect us from the unexpected?
TurquoiseLamp 1 month ago
@TurquoiseLamp Indeed. All we can ever do is flow and live in the moment.
yinyangnature 1 month ago
trust might be a slight exageration. XD
InfoWarsTV2 3 months ago
@InfoWarsTV2 Is trust an exaggeration or is it simply beyond our current social conditioning?
yinyangnature 3 months ago
@yinyangnature good question. Or is it beyond our current social condition?
InfoWarsTV2 3 months ago
How does the master know that grasshopper didn't say that just to be different from his friend, if he asked grasshopper first, he may have said trust none himself. You do not understand, what do you think this is a school to learn from your mistakes, oh wait it is, never mind get out and starve on the streets.
sequence130 4 months ago
But always remember this grasshopper, the luckiest man, is a candle maker who lives near a shaolin school
sequence130 4 months ago 2
You can never lose trust, when you think you have lost trust in something u have simly placed that trust into it's opossite. Nothing gone.
jamesarongray 4 months ago
I KNOW THIS ROBBER!! "Give me your cloths, yo boots and yo motocycle !!!"
Zeuzz 5 months ago
WOW
berlin45ers 7 months ago
UKIP BE LIKE THE PRE COMMUNIST CHINESE, LETS MAKE ALLIES WITH THE EU IN THE SAME WAY THE GREAT WALL OF CHINA ASKED THE HUNS TO CALM DOWN AND LIVE A LIFE OF HARMONY WITH US? ; )
ukgreaterlondon 8 months ago
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LonelyyyRyannij503 9 months ago
Hello, I've traslated and subtitled this video to spanish:
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byebyebabilonia 11 months ago
@byebyebabilonia Well done.
yinyangnature 11 months ago
@futboldeargentina Great quote!
yinyangnature 1 year ago 4
The thing that strikes me is that Ho Fong is dismissed for not learning the "right" lesson. My question is does this dismissal harden him or does he see the error of his ways and become more benevolent. Should not the one who "missed" the lesson be held closer to the source of wisdom that he might learn. I see this in my job, we send the the best and the brightest to internships and those barely passing are cast into the world. Perhaps we should reverse that
duchessofpercy 1 year ago
@duchessofpercy
Not reverse it, but I don't understand how one single error can be evidence of such a deeply flawed character so as to make future attempts to train the kid a waste of time.
WSWarthog 1 year ago
@WSWarthog If you do not undersdand...then YOU must Leave lol
DavelovesRealMusic 5 months ago
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Okay bye.
WSWarthog 5 months ago
@duchessofpercy This reminds me of a situation I witnessed on the NorthShore of Oahu many years ago. The town&country team manager was telling me how he's against violence in the surf. And to make a point, he told me of a time he was surfing Velzyland (heavy local spot), and saw a local punching a white guy. He was so upset, the TC manager went to the local guy and punched him in the face. The TCM didn't see any flaw in his thinking. I knew then I was dealing with a moron beyond redemption.
jmminu 9 months ago
another saying i heard in English goes: "every friend that you have is a stranger at some point"
Joseph2429 1 year ago
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This reminds me of a Chinese saying I heard in a movie "strangers today, friends tomorrow"
but like the title here says: trust but expect the unexpected
Joseph2429 1 year ago
This reminds me of a Chinese saying I heard in a movie "strangers today, friends tomorrow"
but as in anything there are always exceptions I think.
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Joseph2429 1 year ago
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This reminds me of a Chinese saying I heard in a movie. "strangers today, friends tomorrow"
But yes there are exceptions.
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Joseph2429 1 year ago
If he truelly loved he would not cast a stone out who had miss interpreted that he should never trust a stranger...
I understand that if he can never trust anyone the child that is so you can never trust him... however he said when one nail bends do we lose faith in all nails... I would hope he picked the nail up tried straighten the nail out... if this failed he took the nail heater it up straightened it out... the nail my not be perfect... but how can any nail be perfect... it can only be!
TheaDragonSpirit 1 year ago
We knew this from the start but many ignore this philosophy.
umeshpatel 1 year ago
We knew this from the start but many ignore this philososophy.
umeshpatel 1 year ago
atfatw- So the English are an incredibly racist people- a people who outlawed slavery 50 years before the the United States, a people who welcome more immigrants from Eastern Europe( and has always done so) than virtually any other, a country who had a Jewish Primeminister over a hundred years ago, a country who voted an half American the greatest Britain ever.I could go on and on.
Your statement is incredibly stupid and naive.
mercian7 1 year ago
@mercian7 All countries that practise patriotism are racist & xenophobic at some level. Every nation adopts the paradigm that their people & traditions are better than all others. Unfortunately it is this thinking that has produced our highly fragmented world of war & destruction; where the very planet that sustains us is at the tipping point of no return. For the sake of our children, it's time we all adopt the philosophy of Thomas Paine, "The world is my country & to do good is my religion."
TaoFAQ 1 year ago
@TaoFAQ Patriotism isn't always a double-edged sword. I have great respect for my country yet I have the humility to notice it's faults such as how it's leaders make increasingly foolish choices.
Mystrymeat 1 year ago
@Mystrymeat The truth is that everyone in the world believes there nationality, religion and customs are the best and "those foreigners are a threat to our way of life". Our political leaders deliberately indoctrinate us into these beliefs because populations are much easier to control through fear and patriotism. I hope one day we will all adopt the doctrine of Thomas Paine: "The world is my country and my religion is to do good." (alias TaoFAQ)
yinyangnature 1 year ago
@yinyangnature I've never understood the human nature in that sense. It's similar to how politicians say that "terrorists" are "threatening our freedom" but in truth, we are threatening our own freedom by fearing them. Homeland security laws are slowly permitting the government to dip into our private life unannounced.
Mystrymeat 1 year ago
It seems more confusing to me that we are accustom to living our lives in this world to be fearful, untrusting and discouraged. If we are to strive for peace within the world, we must continue to seek out the potential good in everyone and be encouraged to trust in each other. Obviously we must not be naive, but it is foolish to close ourselves off to a world entirely made up of strangers.
I find the dismissal fitting and deserved. We must begin to believe in trust; for the future.
ApollyonProductions 1 year ago
To me, this is probably one of the most important videos I've watched of these series. There is something specifically about this scene that strikes a chord with me
ApollyonProductions 1 year ago 2
@ApollyonProductions This scene has always created a lot of confusion & debate on this channel. I guess it's because people believe the benevolent should never engage in rejection.
As children we couldn't understand why our mothers took us to school and left us behind when she did this for the very first time. It's only when we look back at this moment now, we see our mother did this with a great deal of love. For her only intent was that her child evolve to a higher level.
yinyangnature 1 year ago
@yinyangnature - there is no such thing as a higher state... if you believe there is higher state... then there is a higher state.... no person is higher or lesser evolved only evolved in nature of there path... for example a river flows in the direction it is forced to... it does not choose its path it just goes on this path... the ground lays where it may lie it is no better then river because it channels it... nothing is more... when we stive for more we lose touch with al else.
TheaDragonSpirit 1 year ago
@TheaDragonSpirit i beleive in knowledge, we do not teach knowledge in this country.
davewoodring 1 year ago
@yinyangnature - in other words if a person believes by sending his child to the gas chamber is correct and regreats it but knows they will go straigh to heaven because this is what there told in there higher evolution does this make it true or is it that they have not expected the unexpected. Life is a great teacher a school is part of life but it can not teach you more then anyone else... or anything else... it can only teach you what your told or desire it can't teach you truth! or tao!
TheaDragonSpirit 1 year ago
@yinyangnature - let me put it another way... one persons right maybe anothers wrong.... but anothers wrong maybe right... you must know by looking at a yin yang that good is in bad and bad in good... but how do you determain what is truelly good and truelly wrong... I think many define love as correct and I would say this too... but I could still be wrong! To be sure or not sure, how can you ever be sure... you can't you can only be! Existence. Thats it: like a tree, your no more alive then it!
TheaDragonSpirit 1 year ago
@ApollyonProductions
its rings so clear to me probably cause i used to watch when i was a kid. little did i know that bruce lee was giving me a glimpse of the way.
jackabus 1 year ago
This punishment seems a little harsh no matter how you spin it. Great scene, though. Trust is important.
rss313 1 year ago
brothers and sisters, it is not that "they" have brought evil upon us, we created this by straying away from our spiritual practices..."the only reason that evil triumphs, is when the good remain silent"
TH3D1R3CTOR 1 year ago
I see the ancient Chinese teachings as very much in line with Biblical thought and principles. Especially many of those concerning Shangdi.
OneEyedJack1970 1 year ago
@OneEyedJack1970 All the world's great teachings r grounded in benevolence. The advantage of not limiting ourselves 2 just our own cultural beliefs is that we soon begin 2 see the fundamental spiritual harmony of all people. This also brings new light & understanding 2 our own beliefs. We soon see that all the world's people r but One. Once we all have this same understanding we can then evolve together 2 a lasting peace; beyond the ideology & self-righteousness so prevalent in the world today.
yinyangnature 1 year ago 10
@yinyangnature i smell a conformist
darkunorthodox 1 year ago
@OneEyedJack1970
but the bible is plagiarized, except the four gospels. why you think its so in line. the tao te ching was before the bible.
jackabus 1 year ago
@jackabus I've heard this claim many times, but nobody's ever showed me the sources from which it was supposedly plagiarized, or even named them. Without such sources, this claim is totally without merit..
OneEyedJack1970 1 year ago
@OneEyedJack1970 you want a source look to gilamesh.
jamesellis33 4 months ago
@jamesellis33 I'm familiar with Gilgamesh. And Enkidu. And Humbaba. And Ishtar. And the bull of heaven. And Utnapishtim (whose boat was a big cube). The only similarity to the Bible there is a flood story, only it lacks a ship that would actually be seaworthy.
OneEyedJack1970 4 months ago
That's harsh. I didn't like your answer, so leave!
beaubrent 1 year ago
to those who feel ho fong was kicked out unjustly, i honestly don't think that would have been something that would have really happened.
i think, since it's a scripted show, they used it to show how important it is to learn to trust. time and time again humans have shown that they CAN change, so it's obviously unrealistic to kick a young boy from the temple for simply answering wrongly. it's probably used as a way of showing how when we lose the ability to love, we lose the right path entirely.
DocHallux 1 year ago
So the master tells people to trust people, yet he doesn't trust that "Ho-Fong" will be raised to become a good monk?
StL33T 1 year ago
@StL33T
the real shaolin monks were self righteous hypocrites and massacred many chinese Christians during the boxer rebellion. many of the monks went on to form the infamous chinese traids or mafias.
atfatw 1 year ago
@atfatw
i do not believe you
StL33T 1 year ago
@atfatw That is not true at all. Quite the opposite occurred with the so called "Christians" attacking the Shaolin and burning the temples because they considered them to be pagan savages and instruments of the devil. The irony is, the Shaolin monks practiced more of what Jesus taught than his followers do.
stockscalper 1 year ago
@stockscalper
No, you are wrong shaolin massacred Chinese Christians during the boxer rebellion memebers of this sect later formed the criminal triads
atfatw 1 year ago
@atfatw You're delusional. The Triads have nothing to do with Shaolin. Shaolin monks detest violence and take an oath of pasisiveness. During the Boxer Rebellion many monks fled to this country because of persecution. I studied under a monk whose lineage goes back to these very monks. I know the history of Shaolin and its philosophy.
I find it interesting that the three religions that descend from Abraham promote violence and intolerance whereas the Eastern ones teach love and kindness
stockscalper 1 year ago
@stockscalpe ah, noooo! heathen your monk is deceiving you it it well known that the so called benevolent monks turned killer and founded triads face up to it there is evil and evil people in every religion
atfatw 1 year ago
@atfatw Speaking as an Englishman, I think you will find any aggression resulting from the Boxer Rebellion resulted from the English deliberately getting the Chinese addicted to opium. They did this because the Chinese refused to trade with the English, on the grounds that they had everything they needed. There is ample evidence that the English God was not the Biblical God but an acronym for Gold, Oil & Drugs and they successfully used this "God" to control the world up until WWII.
yinyangnature 1 year ago
@yinyangnature, how right you are one of the most evil things ever done in history the massed drug addictions the english (an incredibly racist people) were responsible for.
the iron fact that exists even today and throughout forever was that chinese massacred Christians and that zen shaolin played a significant role in these mass murders.
atfatw 1 year ago
@atfatw It wasn't that the English were racist. After all we outlawed slavery long before the US & without a civil war. Up until 1946 the Bank of England was controlled by private bankers for over 200 years. It was the bankers that sent the British navy all over the world to oppress and control others for profit. Incidentally it is the descendants of these bankers that now control the US FED. A private bank, not an arm of government. This is why the US is now involved in wars all over the world.
yinyangnature 1 year ago
@atfatw We have a saying in Shaolin ... "if one's words cannot improve upon the silence, then one should remain slient".
stockscalper 1 year ago
thanks for upload :D
thelifeuwant 1 year ago
In the west we question our teachers, this is unthinkable at a temple such as this. Though they are learned in the dao, they are buddhist priests and that usually comes with some conditions; the reality is most applicants to the shaolin were there for personal or familial ambition, it's a wonder they were as patient as the were. Trying to judge another culture from a different cultural perspective is a little like trying to eat soup with a fork.
jacksawild 1 year ago
@jacksawild
Well remember that this is a work of fiction made to introduce a western audience to eastern culture. Perhaps it was an oversight in that they didn't predict that there would be room for miss-understanding. Regardless, this is where I think a little bit of traditional western philosophy may drive home the point. From Mark 2:17;
On hearing this, Jesus said to them, "It is not the healthy who need a doctor, but the sick. I have not come to call the righteous, but sinners."
WSWarthog 1 year ago
@WSWarthog Not western philosophy, Jesus himself was Jewish and lived in Southwest Asia. Christianity would be more of an eastern view than a western, though not entirely either.
wiggalama 5 months ago
Crisps, wine and Tao, this is the way. (plus V8 engines).
varflane 1 year ago
Wow. I remember this scene.
I must have been 11 or 12 when I saw it. It made an impression on me as did the series overall. Thanks for posting.
portsample 1 year ago
So do I. We must be the same age!
yinyangnature 1 year ago
I like the lesson-strikes me deeply with compassion. Maybe the temple will consider my application now!!!!
pete0969wi 1 year ago
At first it seems Master Kan was too harsh, but was he ?
Buddhism, in a nutshell, seems to teach that the experience of life is what actually teaches us.
Master Kan realized Ho Fong sadly did not have the potential to be a priest since
no amount of "teaching" by the priest could make Ho Fong stop thinking that strangers are bad.
Notice he was still kind , he said "after you are well and rested".
Although it would be "nice" to allow him to stay , the truth is that he simply is not suited.
bigkendallas 2 years ago
@bigkendallas
how did the all perfect master khan know this? afterall, Ho Fung was a small boy not a hardened unchangeable grown up.
atfatw 1 year ago
@bigkendallas
what do u mean not suited? it was this this "master kan" who also said that to be justice, there must be evil. to be peace, there must first be unrest. and that they were a two ended opening of cowardice and strength. Who is he to deny humanity or it's salvation? He may not be able to become a perfect monk, but who needs to be perfect?
StL33T 1 year ago
what dao chapter is this please
XxJBUxX 2 years ago
Tao Te Ching (Feng & English)
Chapter 13: Surrender yourself humbly; then you can be trusted to care for all things.
Chapter 15: Be Watchful, like men crossing a winter stream. Alert, like men aware of danger.Courteous, like visiting guests.
Chapter 17: He who does not trust cannot be trusted.
Chapter 27: The sage takes care of all men and abandons no one. He takes care of all things and abandons nothing.
What is a good man? A teacher of a bad man.What is a bad man? A good man's charge.
yinyangnature 2 years ago 2
thank you the share, love & light, Ivacha
ivacha 2 years ago
Merlyn1978 wrote: "I think what master kahn saw was that the thieves took...from that boy...his trust. And that's something that couldn't be returned." END. I agree, well said! He wasn't cast away; he'd done that to himself when he closed his mind to other people; he'd now prejudge people, stereotype them w/out even knowing them and all because of one bad experience!He's now dogmatic and ready to divide than unite which is what most religions/people do which is why he was told to leave!
1rendezvous 2 years ago
I do feel that punishment was rather harsh, better to teach the boy then to cast him away.
Perhaps he felt though that there was no way to help the boy.
loathi 2 years ago
Do no evil, do only good. Purify your heart.
hannigan06 2 years ago
Don't be evil... "Google"
rustysruger 2 years ago
Treat others as you would treat yourself.
hannigan06 2 years ago
I agree with you Merlyn1978; that was an excellent point to make.
pranakhan 2 years ago
that punishment did not fit the crime. Honestly that was way too hard on that kid.
GadGades 2 years ago
I don't think it was a punishment really. I think what master kahn saw was that the thieves took not only their clothes...but from that boy they took his trust. And that's something that couldn't be returned. I think something to that effect was mentioned in Alathea. The one with Jodie Foster.
Merlyn1978 2 years ago
Very well stated indeed. Thank you!
yinyangnature 2 years ago
Wow. This is the exact advice I needed to hear at this point in my life. Unbelievable.
anilomd 2 years ago
I'm so glad it has helped you, for this is the only reason these are posted.
"May all sentient beings be released from their suffering." Buddha
yinyangnature 2 years ago
I am Japanese. I often saw these programs on TV about 30 years ago. It looked forward every week. The hero is doing Odyssey also in Japan. I am sorry for my poor English. Thank you for reading this with your gentle feeling.
momokkou 2 years ago
Your English is without any errors my friend. It's very nice to hear from you! Thank you for your support.
Bobba
yinyangnature 2 years ago
You speak with better English than many in America.
Screaminguy 2 years ago
Your english is excellent. No misspelling, no bad grammar. Perfect sentence structure. (Sure that "It" can be over looked, shoud've been "I" and to put "to it" between the words "forward" and "every") But hey, you type better english than a lot of the people that KNOW english so it's excellent. I also like how you added the words "gentle feeling" at the end. A little unorthodox but still accepted in modern English.
RedCrescentDemon 2 years ago
This is not a ENGLISH class
stonecoldjason 2 years ago
Yeah yeah. By the way, you should've typed it "This is not an English class".
RedCrescentDemon 2 years ago
that is what I typed , can't you read?
stonecoldjason 2 years ago
English is good ,don't worry
govaard 2 years ago
Things are good if we want them to be. True Nature.
hannigan06 2 years ago
WEIRD....this monk told the exact same words but different than JESUS told us long ago...do good deeds for others and never expect something in return.
memokk 2 years ago
Of course. Regardless of heritage or religion, the truth is still the truth, and wisdom remains wisdom
MelonNinja 2 years ago
the buddest leader forgot his name
said "Chirst is a lot of good parables, just wish more christians would be like him"
stonecoldjason 2 years ago
That was one of the most beautiful moments of television I have ever seen. Deeply moving.
Dovelike 2 years ago
Master Kan should be aware that he benefited from the knowledge and experience shown to him by his elders at Shaolin temple , and Ho Fong is but just starting to be a apprentice monk , he need all the guidance he can get , to be expelled for just the slightest mistake only taught Ho Fong to be merciless and unforgiving as for Kwai Chang Caine , he got all the producers and director backing him , Ho Fong does not
Gerogiancounty 2 years ago
I think we are all missing the lesson in this clip. It is not about the fictitious character Ho Fong or Master Kan. Its about the importance of trust and if one loses faith in others, based on a bad experience, one is robbed of lifes greatest joys. For the greatest trust of all is love and one who can not trust also is unable to love.
yinyangnature 2 years ago
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Perhaps there are many lessons in this clip.
I think Ho Fong taught a valuable lesson. Even after being rejected by his teacher, he still bows with respect, without protest, and leaves.
It takes a man to suffer ignorance, and smile.
someoneyoulove 2 years ago
Gerogian, I agree
carangua2000 2 years ago
Ho Fong was just a child , a kid , a so called benovalent monk need not be so harsh on him
now that he is expelled , where is he to go to and who is he to seek for guidance ?
A bit irresponsible of Master Kan isn't it ?
Gerogiancounty 2 years ago
Master Kan isn't angry at Ho Fong, he has simply decided that he isn't a suitable person to become a Shaolin priest.
This really isn't any different to a colour blind person being unable to become an electrician or a person with flatfeet unable to join the military.
yinyangnature 2 years ago
But you must understand one thing , I could he judged and penalised Ho Fong just becos he reason by a child's standard , for goodness sake he is just a child who is learning everyday and of course there will be mistakes made
As for Master Kan , where is his grace and mercy ?
Ho Fong was just robbed , it is human for anyone to feel indignant , and to be penalised for it is the greatest injustice , Master Kan should learn mercy
Gerogiancounty 2 years ago
You mentioned that its really isn't any different to a colour blind person being unable to become an electrician or a person with flatfeet unable to join the military that Ho Fong was expelled
Those are physical deficiencies , Ho Fong's expulsion was not due to these reasons
he was a victim of a draconian and unforgiving monk who have no tolerance for innocent and childlike errors
Those that have never made a mistake in their lives are most likely the ones that never learn anything
Gerogiancounty 2 years ago
Its so easy for Master Kan to mutter all these mindless philosophies while sitting in a room fully fed and covered by the Shaolin temple management , throw him out to the real world for a month or two and he will be a different man , might turn into a pot smoking hippie too
Gerogiancounty 2 years ago
I always advised my daughters to take the more difficult path,and thus ,they did...and are now upstanding members of our society with much to offer fellow human beings.
Bless them...
Thank-you for this,
Gemma
repelghosts 2 years ago
... and thus begins the saga of Ho Fong, sworn enemy of all the Shaolin, doomed to wander the Earth taking his bitter vengeance out on those who scorned him.
BlackProteus 2 years ago
Who is to say that Ho Fong didn't learn a very valuable lesson and maybe went on to be a sage himself?
Whenever something 'bad' happens to us, it is always an opportunity to either take the easy road and become spiteful; or take the very difficult Path and grow. The choice is always ours.
What road will you take the next time you feel rejected and hurt?
yinyangnature 2 years ago
"What road will you take the next time you feel rejected and hurt?"
Well, I'm a grown man, unlike Ho Fong, so I will probably understand a rejection as a lesson. But Ho Fong is a child. I am a teacher, and I would never give up on a student so quickly and blithely, for one mistake.
BlackProteus 2 years ago
@black proteus
I agree!
neverlast74 2 years ago
He is lucky the monk didn't cut his head off.
Taveren22 2 years ago
At the end, love and trust persist. Ho Fong would learn his lesson to trust and would be forgiven. Expect the unexpected and don't be quick to judge a teacher's by his firm lessons.
dennisbbb 2 years ago
Ho Fong is expelled from the temple because he did not learn / interpret the lession in an acceptable way for his master.
If this lesson is so important for Master Ken - isn't there another way in teaching Ho Fong the importance of trust in all humans - other than to cast him out?
I am surprised ....
neverlast74 2 years ago
Master Kan is an old bag of contradictions !
Gerogiancounty 2 years ago
great! thank you for posting these clips.
ocharriez74 2 years ago
For me,,,,,,,Trust but varify when able!
frieswthat 2 years ago
I like this expression "The supple willow not contention with the storm yet, It survives" Hu Hu Hu Pierce to my mind sharp word is sharper than knife...
nicky666 2 years ago
One of my favourite!!
I almost weep every time I watch it.
Those who trust don`t need no verifying, for every verifcation is lack of trust.
Sorry for my english
demochila 2 years ago
Wow, i don't remember them speaking of love although i loved this show as a kid, very well said!
ascendedoshen 3 years ago
I feel sorry for Ho Fung. He was just a kid who gave a dumb answer. Where is the mercy, Master Kan? It looks like a little western bias.
Hollyelvis 3 years ago
what do you mean?
diomedes39 3 years ago
wow that was a powerfull teaching! this series was just out standing!!!!
doctorw2 3 years ago
it seems like every turn could have resulted in cain being booted from the temple. lucky he always answers right
sausageslaps 3 years ago
Trust, but verify.
~Ronald Reagan
schmarcie 3 years ago
The secret awaits eyes unclouded by ambition, those who are bound by desire seek only that which can be held in their hand.
ikasawak05 3 years ago
Very wise words my friend.
yinyangnature 3 years ago
We all act according to our nature, as the fable The Scorpion and the Frog points out. Therefore, with trust must come caution, and being cautious is merely being aware of the possibility of deceit. Master Kan mentions being prepared for evil, and being cautious is exactly that. "Expect the unexpected" is perhaps a poor choice of wording for Caine but in essence, he is mandating caution.
bullitt440 3 years ago
in Taosim i dont believe one would use the word evil, since to my knowledge there is no good and evil.
mlpardo 2 years ago
I think it's ok to use the concept of evil as long as you understand that it is a relative term and not an absolute. To the rat, the cat is evil, but to the universe it is not.
naflodi 2 years ago
What great writing; I could watch this a hundred times.
gifu1960 3 years ago
God
cheekythumbs 3 years ago
Notice Ho Fong's choice of wording "NEVER trust a stranger" - it indicates he learned prejustice towards others. Such is deemed as anger towards G-d that He allows bad things to happen.
Kwai Chang on the other hand is humbled, and doesn't think illy of the stranger, rather he sees the better good within the misfortune.
MenachemUltimater 3 years ago
The difference isn't just a minor slip on wording. The difference is a religious outlook on life, to "know G-d" in all your ways. Such an outlook should always be present. Feelings of anger are forgivable however it should never corrupt one's view and be verbalized that misfortune happens without fortune coming with it. The disciple is expected to learn this from the Yin Yang - that evil balances good and vice versa.
MenachemUltimater 3 years ago
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Guts01 1 year ago
Master Kan is a tough dude. You slip once, and you're out the door like that student.
jedimasterchet 3 years ago
Some things can not be teach with words, but with experience. Ho Fong must learn from the lesson that Kwai Chang learned himself about the incident and must learn to trust people again. Words can make him only aware of this on the surface, but his distrust of strangers would always be with him, if Master Kan not let him learn the hard way.
biketouristpodcast 3 years ago
Brilliant! Thank you very much for your thoughts.
yinyangnature 3 years ago
In regard to strangers, there isn't much difference between "expecting the unexpected" and "not trusting strangers". The point the master is making is in regard to misfortune in general. By mistrusting someone, it is your way of showing negative feelings towards them due to the harm received on your part. A G-dly man is immune to harm and sees the good that comes with the misfortune. "Expecting the unexpected" doesn't show hostile feelings towards anybody - thus he wasn't really harmed.
MenachemUltimater 3 years ago
The student must learn to trust strangers. If he stays in the temple, he may never have to deal with strangers. He must "return" to trust stangers. HE cannot "return" to the temple, but he can "return" to the others that he will be forced to rely on and serve.
Kahn says"return to us, never" he must "return" to his cautious trust of strangers, and being turned into a wanderer will do that.
marktrumble9 3 years ago
Extremely well said.
yinyangnature 3 years ago
@marktrumble9
I understand what you say. I assume that Ho Fong is in the temple to learn - all things and not to search for a way to be expelled. Let's assume this.
Now, I doubt that a 8 year old Ho Feng is learning from this episode that "trust to everyone is so important."
More likely he will learn "one error and the ones you trusted (like your master) will turn away from you. "
"Leave us and only return once you have learned to trust strangers" - that would be my reaction.
neverlast74 2 years ago
Thanks for an awesome clip! This was one of my favorite tv series as a child. I even had the record album. This is one of the best kung fu scenes ever!
paulaehall 3 years ago
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yinyangnature 3 years ago
Very nice, but I didnt think it was fair to ban the kid out from the temple.
itsabomberscope 3 years ago
Disregarding that this is fiction; Master Kan may seem extraordinary harsh. However, we are looking at this from our fragmented perspective of the world. A Shaolin student would have been instructed in the illusion of separateness and unity of all things. Therefore, a Shaolin student saying that he would never trust a stranger is demonstrating great contempt for a very fundamental Shaolin belief.
yinyangnature 3 years ago
I see. But as the master said love is greater than good. Would it not be better to teach the student why it is necessary to trust even in the event of exploitation. The master may have created the ultimate separateness in the student by rejecting him. If love is the ultimate value, how can the student know this is true by being rejected. Just my thoughts, I enjoy your videos. Thanks :o)
itsabomberscope 3 years ago
What we see as harshness by Master Kan, he may have meant as kindness. Master Kan may have thought it better to let Ho Fong go now, than to put him through the endless trials of the Shaolin. After all, there will be many who never truly grasp the Way of the Tao, and to be a priest of the Shaolin this would never do.
Or maybe Ho Fong was just very unlucky to be met by the very stern Master Kan and not the far more lenient Master Po! ;-)
yinyangnature 3 years ago
there is no such a thing as fundamental shaolin belief , shaolin temple is but one of the many temples across asia that practices zen Buddhism and zen is in fact the fundamental belief , it so happens that shaolin also practices exercises that evolved into martial arts ,
grace , mercy , forgiveness as well as tolerance does not go contrary to Shaolin's creed , alas Master Kan shown non of these traits in the series
Gerogiancounty 2 years ago