World: Apartheid Haunts South Africa's Schools - nytimes.com

[MrThewaffen]

omg its not racism its fact that african people are stupid its just how they are whites asians and arabs smart well not so much arabs but i can say that i am smarter then all the blacks in the world its how god made me people just need to stop trying to fit in you are not racist for being better then another race thats like saying a german shepherd is the same as a chiwawaus when they are not the german shepherd is faster stronger taller smarter better in every way we are not the same its a lie

[tumilets]

TheNewYorkTimes would you please tell the world the truth!!! We do not blame apartheid for our dismal education system, we blame the OBE from the UNITED STATES!!! That system was a disaster from the beginning to the end of it. Thank GOD it's over. We have what it takes to make it on our own and we will do it the Mzansi way! William Spady and his OBE can go to the nearest hell, and while there, tell the devil that we are not coming!!!

[luphelele]

Oh my gosh. Can people stop defending their race and stop blaming particular races?! Am i the only one here who sees 2 potential South African doctors who are willing to do whatever it takes but still keep failing. Can you recognise the dreams of these children? Can we stop talking about color and start seeing the multitudes of children who are losing hope in their dreams. We need real, colourless solutions. Stop being selfish and making this all about race. Stop focusing on petty things!!!

[satojinnthehero]

GO BLONDIE! YOU BECOME What YOU WANT TO BE!

[Hartsock2009]

Wrong again New york times you guys have got no fucking clue how bad the schools are so why don't all you fucking Americans mind your fucking business and deal with your problems instead of looking for shit, We kick your ass once in Somalia do you want us to do it again?

[GrauenausderTiefe]

the school looks like a jail o_o look at the doors in the end of the video

[mikkyshort]

this doesn't only happen in south africa only....we all know it happens it happens in all black communities

[Nikitns]

blondie is hot

[loopdatish]

ahhh South Africa.....we can just never seem to get our shit right its always someones fault!! NP apartheid and whites this, ANC and blacks that blah blah what a mess.

WHAT WILL MAKE IT RIGHT?,nobody on here seems to be posting any positive ideas to heal the 'scars' of apartheid and move on....How long are we gonna whine about the past and point fingers instead of moving forward.....its obvious both The NP were and the ANC are both terrible at running the country :(

[loopdatish]

ahhh South Africa.....we can just never seem to get our shit right its always someones fault!! apartheid and whites this, Anc and blacks that blah blah what a mess.

WHAT WILL MAKE IT RIGHT?,nobody on here seems to be posting any positive ideas to heal the 'scars' of apartheid and move on....How long are we gonna whine about the past and point fingers instead of moving forward.....its obvious both The NP were and the ANC are both terrible at running the country :(

[loopdatish]

ahhh South Africa.....we can just never seem to get our shit right its always someones fault!! apartheid and whites this, Anc and blacks that blah blah what a mess.

WHAT WILL MAKE IT RIGHT?,nobody on here seems to be posting any positive ideas to heal the 'scars' of apartheid and move on....How long are we gonna whine about the past and point fingers instead of moving forward.....its obvious both The NP were and the ANC are both terrible at running the country. NEW PARTY!! DA looks good to me

[arenelomax]

Let's help.

[GGLebo23]

It's strange to see all of these comments from people who believe they know SA's geopolitical history like the back of their hand. Where did all these SA experts who do not live in SA come from?

[SpeckerWrecker91]

I don't see how Apartheid can be blamed for 15 years of FAILURE by the ANC, which is by it's own admission 100% black.

That's like buying a house and then blaming the previous owner when you don't know how to properly maintain it. It's quite simple, New York Times: the blacks cannot handle any bit of responsibility. I'd wager that the average white college student could govern that country better than any of the idiots currently in power.

[TomasEpson]

@SpeckerWrecker91 Please explain to me why u whites are in denial about the legacy of Apartheid. 15 years is not gonna correct 48 of straight oppression (actually its 300 years in retrospect). Yes there are a lot of incompetent ppl in the gov. but overall they have made strides since 94. btw, I'm a young black S. African at the University of British Columbia (Canada) in Electrical Engineering and I maintain an 85% average. Can your average white SA college student top that?? Exactly.. Shut up

[GGLebo23]

@SpeckerWrecker91 Your from South Africa? How is the ANC worse than the apartheid government? What facts/statistics do you have that suggest things gone for the worse?

[benbezuidenhout]

@GGLebo23 ANC is a worse government than the Apartheid National-Party government. the ANC has no goals except "BLACK EMPOWERMENT" and "RANDS". They want nothing else? In 1980, 53% of the "white-supremicist" apartheid government's budget was spent on black people and THEIR quality of life. Although blacks were the majority, they also took up the majority of the money. When the apartheid government build them schools, they burnt them down because they weren't english enough? colonialsm is bad?

[liviu6]

I didn't compared them with Nazism. just with communism. it can be easily proven that the so called 'civil rights' leaders were on Moscow's payroll in the Cold War, and their purpose was to destabilize US.

[cha0z4o0]

@liviu6 bullshit who do u think paid for the blacks guns? and their training? go check ur shit before u spill it out here for uninformed dicks to read...

[Caeraebro]

@liviu6 the blacks have more rights in South Africa than whites,remember that we enslaved them,not they enslaved us.......

The fact is that european colonists always involved in things waren't their bussiness,and now they all shout that Europe is full of algerians,turks,arabs etc

[Nikitns]

@Caeraebro mate, you are a moron. I freaking hate morons with too much knowledge.

[liviu6]

so I'm crazy now? that's exactly what commies told to people who have different(better) opinions. humanity is an obsolete concept created in the 18 century by a bunch of masons. decolonization was the biggest mistake in the 20th century. it was made by the Americans and Bolsheviks to weaken Europe.

[Northgrant]

blacks are utter morons

[KingWyn]

You sound like the simpleton.

[liviu6]

SA was better under Apartheid. everyone knew his place in the society. nowadays they have the highest crime rate in the world, one third of the population have AIDS and there are tribal fightings. and on the top they are exterminating their former White masters. that's when you let the Africans govern themselves... you can take an African out of the jungle but you will never take the jungle out of the African.

[H1MLA]

and with your comments, you think you are intelligent er? you cretinous racist moron.

[cmw1226]

Im not from South Africa and I wouldn't know what its like living there. Yet it hurts me to see videos like this because of the fact that they are speaking Engish. They are speaking a laguage that is not their native language and it seems that the people who imposed the English language on them dont care about what they have done to these people. I just dont understand how people could be so cruel and not want to help others gain a desent education so that there can be an level playing field.

[deathsnightmar3]

lol thats pretty sad that they are being taught by shitty teachers that don't even really teach and filling these kids with false hope... Pretty much none of them will be a successful doctor or engineer because their schooling is so awful...

[goonerfromjhb]

If the education was inferior then tell me how is it possible for a black South African nurse who qualified in the 1970's with her 'bantu nurses certificate' to be able to work in a UK hospital? C'mon people wake up not everything you hear about S.A is completely true.

Looks who's spouting the latest 'lets blame apatheid' crap..The NY Times for goodness sakes.

Give these youngsters a chance to develop their own opinion before teaching them to use apartheid as an excuse when things go bad.

[torontocape]

This report misses the point completely! There is now a disproportionate number of whites who are unemployed as a result of "affirmative action" by the current government. The only affirmation the current government is practicing is lining the pockets of the powers that be. Heaven help the south africans. it is a beautiful country down the road to ruins if nothing changes...

[sambozauk]

This is how it is, Whitey boys in SA have a superiority disorder, until they stop being complete and utter arse holes, and obnoxious arrogant pigs, then SA will become a place that the world does not look down upon, but respects. YOUR PROBLEM IS STILL THE WHITES.

[Fr3d4k1]

So if a black teacher does not pitch for shcool, its apartheids fault? After 15 years of 'freedom' that country could not get teachers trained up to do the job and its apartheids fault?

the problem is still whites... how stupid are you? Look at how these students try to make it on their own... its not a colour thing, they do not need the whites and they do not need to blame the whites.

It is an excuse that makes you feel better for your failures. get over yourself.

[cmw1226]

You make a good point, but who's language are they speaking? Who's style of clothing are they wearing? And who's native land are they in? Sure it's important to rely on yourself but as an African American who bare's the surname of a white man. I just want to remind you of what we can do with the help from white americans who care. After all they helped us during the civil rights movement. I am greatful for being an American and I just wish the kids in the video had the same opportunities as me.

[KazukoBear]

yes it IS think about it by whom should the teachers be trained? they didnt have anyone in some way their culture was robbed because of apartheid i mean honestly why tell hell shouldnt the country who made the problem not try a bit more to fix it up They've done a good job already they just need time you cant fix anything staight away just for you to think about most 'rich' countries, have in some way become rich because they stole something from another country or other people

[Fr3d4k1]

'by whom should the teachers be trained?'

by the whites that had the qualifications, but when I trained them, they slept in my class. when I did not want to give the certificate I was called a racist. they were givin the certificate by higher athorities and now they are training those poor kids low quality because they slept in MY,THE WHITEYS class ... WHO WANTED TO TRAIN THEM!

'why shouldnt the country who made the problem not try a bit more to fix it up' -> because they are run by the ANC

[H1MLA]

well said mate. these vile white apartheid boer africaaner nazis are beneath contempt. instead of being happy that the tolerant blacks of sa did not butcher them 4 the crimese against humanity that they served on blacks folks during apartheid, they continued with their racist white apartheid agenda and yet, they wonder why the world hate their guts.

[liviu6]

the tolerant blacks?!?!?lol! those 'tolerant' blacks have butchered more than 50 000 Whites in the last few years. as a payment for giving them fire and the wheel. what humanity are you talking about? the UN's 'humanity'? humanity is n empty world without any meaning nowadays. it makes me sick...

[H1MLA]

I won't bother commenting on the amount you listed of AWB neo-Nazis White Boer Africaaners that have met their waterloo since Apartheid ended. But what I like 2 ask you, why were these non-racist, good minded, non-evil White AWB Nazis Boer Africaaners killed in the 1st place? What were the reasons 4 their despatch?

[liviu6]

they were killed because they were White.

[H1MLA]

That's NOT good enough, there must be a reason why they were killed. I do not see Whites being killed in Ghana, Nigeria or Gambia like this. So come back with a VALID HONEST reason behind these killings.

[liviu6]

the Communists made the Blacks kill their White masters because they think that you can destroy capitalism by exterminating(or weakening) the White race. there are many examples of that in history(the civil rights movement in US was also funded by Communists). that's why they are so crazy now about 'fascism' and 'nazism'(pro-White political ideologies). neo-Communists consider the class war to be a race war against the White race.

[H1MLA]

Correct me here, so you think the AWB neo-nazis Boer Africaaners colonists criminals from Europe, are the white masters of SA Black indeginous land owners? Yes or No?

[Caeraebro]

@liviu6 white masters?????

=)) do you own a black???do you own another person????

racist son of a bitch.....

US is the enemy,not the american people but the US Government is responisble for the shit that happens in this world,including America.

If you are a hot shot please watch EndGame:Blueprint for Human Enslavement,

it's made by americans and some colaborators from Europe.

Peace my friend......

[watchulla]

OH here we go!!!!!

all these children need are good teachers. Ship them in if you have too!!!!. The cycle must end somewhere start with this generation of children. Then teach the adults. this way affirmative action won't go to waste. These people need to belive in themselves more than anyone else this the key!!!!!!!.

[ParadiseZion]

To be fair, not everything can be blamed on apartheid anymore, the riddle just wont work forever, I wonder if it is going to be said 15 or 30 years from now. Mugabe is still blaming his dire situation on imperialists/colonists/whites and sometimes Jew (and even gays) but that's just not acceptable in the long term. As long as SA maintains Affirmative Action, BEE, and a completely incompetent law enforcement AND blame all their problem on apartheid, they will not know progress anytime soon.