Commentary with Joel: Being gay is a sin, but it's God's job

[Poochalot]

I don't care what some god says, love is love in any form

[cappaslangmurderer]

Hey Joel, what happens if I go find the religion that suits me, say the buddhist faith, and I lie and cheat, have copious sex because there is no real consequences and then when I die I go to hell because it was wrong? I don't think you last few sentences at 4:20 on your video will actually help anyone. Thanks anyway

[lnfk]

Man, It amazes me how many people think being Gay is not a sin.

[PURES3X]

Giving into your desires is well cool. My Vicar reckons

[crhoads62]

for 1 sin is a legal matter. that is why the 1st 5 books of the bible are called that laws. it is a legal matter for which you will stand in front of judge for judgment. the judge will be GOD. everyone has broken GODS laws. the penalty for breaking GODS law MUST be payed. many people believes that they are good. but GODS standard is perfection. that is why GOD sent his own son JESUS to pay your penalty. all who reject JESUS will go to hell. all. sin is not something GOD takes lightly.

[TheReporter5000]

What is a sinner?And to condem mean?As i am only young i don't know much of gods words.Anyway in this view he says to allow someone of murder or not to judge because they get what they'll get soon, we are supposed to be happy about it?Anyway i don't judge homosexuality but does anyone have a bible or any websites or info or can post me words, in the bible that says being homosexual is a sin, to me i don't know but i need to understand myself if it is a sin or not.

[illkickurass2]

i really dont think gays are going to hell...seriously hwy would god send someone to hell for being gay when being gay isnt realy a choice expecialy for guys..why would ANY GUY DECIDE TO BE GAY WHEN U KNOW PPL ARE GONNA LOOK DOWN ON UR FOR IT..ALSO II DONT THINK THAT GOOD PERSON WHO IS GAY WOULD GO TO HELL..WHY WOULD U PUNISH A GOOD PERSON.BAD PPL GO TO HELL GOOD PPL GO TTO HEVEN

[cappaslangmurderer]

bla bla bla, never mind where people are putting their penis's but where hey are putting their money. theres more mention of finance than than romance in the gospels

[Ginja4Ever]

every sin is equal in Gods eyes.

[yazuak]

So, stealing some candy is the same as murdering my only child?

[Ginja4Ever]

hahahahah idk bout that one but i guess in Gods eyes it is. i really dont kno. hahah

[kabasky]

well the thing is this, stealing candy can get you into hell, murdering your child can get you into hell, a sin is a sin

[yazuak]

I see - so if I've stolen candy, but don't intend to repent, I'm no different than the pedophile that has raped 7 children?

[peronkop]

Ah ok I thought you was beyond the prejudice.. my bad.

[vicktotall]

it say in the bible to hate the sin but love the sinner we hate sin but we dont hate the people it the sin that makes people a sinner but jesus died so that u would noit have to be a sinner.

[unicoestilo]

The Scriptures do not say to "hate the sin but love the sinner"

However it does say that God hates workers of iniquity. It also says that sinners will be cast into hell...not their sin.

[TheReporter5000]

What is a sinner?And i believe in god but try not to be gay as i believe that being gay i will go to hell.

[911CMS420YO]

just be gay buddy, god doesnt care

[vicktotall]

in leviticus chapter 18 22 vers says thou shalt not lie with mankind as with womenkind it is abomination wich means men shal to lie with men and women shall no lie with women keep reading 22-27 if u wonna find out more

[peronkop]

why? :S

[dalejoel]

Yes, I am not a fan of religion. But so what? To answer your question, you should listen to my advice because it is logical. Exactly what reading should I do that refutes the logic of my statements? My whole article is about people reinterpreting things so they feel better about themselves. Obviously they don't care what the text says, they only care what they believed to begin with. If the text disagrees, they simple reinterpret it to what they want it to say.

[imconservative]

It is clear that being gay is a sin. This is a sinful lifestyle. If one supports gay marriage, they are supporting sin. Justify all you want. It is God's law. I am not judging, just stating a fact. It is a perverse sinful lifestyle. You are not born gay. You choose this perverse nast lifestyle.

[ginb1289]

Jealous,jealous jealous.

[amberview30]

guess someone made a choice then. I didn't make a choice... I just am what I am and I'm heterosexual. I guess "imconservative" is saying something about himself (or maybe herself).

[olweeee]

go fuck urself idiot! if u believe in god u are pathetic! there is nothing wrong whit gays, but beeing christian and thinking gay is a sin is almost the same as beeing racist. grow up u piece of shit!

[harriszxc]

I think gay marrige is fine if they want to be happy let them be happy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Nickydickyy]

i agree, but the condescending attitude turns away viewers :(

[dalejoel]

If you agree with me, I'm not sure how I condescended to you.

I'm not a missionary and I certainly am not going to change people's opinion of religion in 5 minutes. And maybe if people get a little riled up they'll feel compelled to form a counter argument. To do that they have to consider my point. That seems healthy.

[Nickydickyy]

Ha ha no not condescending to me. To the people who's minds you are trying to change. You don't leave much room for a counter argument, so in that way I feel your turning away those people. But I might be wrong, just my opinion.

[dalejoel]

I don't disagree. It's just that counter arguments are for other people to make, not me. I make my argument and then people react. And yeah, I state my case with fervor because this darn debate has been going on longer than I've been alive and it's still not resolved. My conclusion is that this particular debate itself is meaningless.

[0978u]

this guy is a fool

[cmdrkoenig67]

The Bible was written not by the divine, but by human men with all the faults, prejudices/biases of their fellow humans.

God says nowhere in the Bible that homosexuals are an abomination...The men who wrote the Bible did...Jesus never said anything about homosexuality either.

Sin is harming of oneself and/or others....Homosexuality is not a sin...It harms nobody.

[HailZeon57]

Look up 2nd Peter 1:21. God basically wrote the Bible through men.

[cmdrkoenig67]

basically? No...God is so far beyond man, that no man could ever write how God feels, what God thinks or What God even is. Those men who wrote the Bible wrote it for themselves, of themselves.

[HailZeon57]

And you base this assertion from where? How could you possibly know all of this?

You don't know where God is and only the Bible says where he is. The Bible was written for everyone, that they may believe and go to heaven. You can also go to heaven to if you believe. I'd rather know where I'm going after I die, than speculating.

[cmdrkoenig67]

"HailZeon57

And you base this assertion from where? How could you possibly know all of this?"

I know it as much as you claim to know where you're going after death. BTW, God isn't a "he".

[HailZeon57]

I get my info from the Bible. You get yours from where? your fallacious opinions maybe?

God isn't a girl or we'd be worshiping a goddess.

God is ultimately a spirit, but Jesus is half God and half man, so we know he is male.

[lethalegg]

Just because it's against your nature, it's against all nature? Please think beyond your own safe bubble of ignorance.

[shizzle4687]

ur a fucking disgrace to my religion how can

[walker3216]

poor video

[kevzrocked]

what an asshole! The whole video this guy wants a cock-- be yourself buddy-- lets just admit something -- lets stop the debate -- this guy's fruity

[drk556]

Being a homosexual is and all ways a sin. Homosexual is against nature. There is no such a thing a save homosexual........

Leviticus 18:22 (KJV)

22.Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.

Romans 1:24 (KJV)

24.Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:

[jonbgud77]

being homosexual is not wrong not the orientation preferacnes, it was only the wrongful acts that sodomities did, not all homosexual people were killed, there were some few faithful gay people was saved and was still gay

[Tehgrimreaper]

@jonbgud77 uh, and where is that documented or is that something you invented or "heard on the internet".

[Tehgrimreaper]

There are rules to interpretation, and its not up to individual readers to come up with what they want. Most scholars will adhere to the rules. The bible flat out says homosexuality is wrong. I don't judge anyone. So, I'm sure that most heterosexuals would appreciate all of the straightbashing to stop, and stop labelling us as having some sort of irrational fear of homosexuals, which the majority of straight people do not have. The term "homophobe" is offensive, and simply not nice.

[ShawnBevin]

wait...im confused....arnt u gay?

[screwstonsoulja]

Those people who go from church to church are "shopping" or simply just playing church and probably dont have a real realtionship with the the lord, religion is not selfish, people are.

[justcornelius]

you should comeout of the closet

its nice out here in the open

[Magikhatman]

i dont get it why dont peopel just do whatever

if you dont like the way people treat you then ignore them!

its easy

then concentrate on the people who do want equality and eventually those who dont will be so inbread that theyll die

but what would i know im just a stupid little kid

[timm9]

your very fem. acting.

[Ulai777]

The only time that a person has a right to be selfish is when he or she considers their eternal destiny.