Flip Flop Jim Webb

[utubecenseorstruth]

webb you voted agaisnt the will of the american people after just barely winning your seat. You have some issues.

[TaffyAlpha]

I got an idea for cutting the deficit! Cut Medicare, Medicaid, and Social Security!!! Oh wait, Republicans have a double standard when it comes to Medicare and Social Security. They just want to cut spending on the programs THEY DONT USE.

[KenyanBornObamAcorn]

Scott Brown is the Messiah!

[JimmyFormerMarine]

Well, if you cut an established entitlement program, it has to be replaced by something else. A lot of proposals have been made to reform Social Security and Medicare, but Democrats and AARP reject them. They never come to a vote. As for Republicans who vote with Democrats, they should be voted out on election day.

[JimmyFormerMarine]

"Medicare is socialistic."

Correct. And Medicare was not a part of the original Social Security program. It wasn't added until the 1960s, mainly at the behest of the socialist Senator Ted Kennedy, who got away with murder when he killed his girl friend.

[TaffyAlpha]

@JimmyFormerMarine

And this makes me wonder why Republicans are against cutting medicare spending.

[777equals666]

The 2009 U.S. Universal Health Care Bill section: Subtitle C-11 Sec. 2521— National Medical Device Registry

(Page 1001 - 1007)

So, Obama wants all of us tax paying, good hearted america patriots to let IBM and Positive ID to put a subdermal microchip in our bodies to govern commerce, medical and international travel, and they say there is no such thing as a New World Order.....

Good Luck America while you get the foundations of your government sold to the Oligarchy!

[TaffyAlpha]

Why don't Republicans ever want to cut Medicare Spending even though Medicare IS a government handout? Medicare is socialistic.

[sigmundphreud]

Jim Webb Kowtowed to the Heffer

(play on words, could not help it).

[utubecenseorstruth]

Jim webb just barely won the last election by less than 1% and virginia is turning back to their roots and southern red state. Obama is losing popularity there and with the amount of people retiring there older americans will recall healthcare. He is better than most democrats but still he stood with obama against the american people and they dont forget

[TaffyAlpha]

It's often said that Republicans love to cut spending 4 many government programs. However from my experiences I have noticed that Republicans whine and complain when it come to cuts in MEDICARE. Isn't medicare a government handout, and therefore that makes medicare SOCIALISTIC.

If you Republicans cannot practice what you preach, then you should preach what you practice.

[sigmundphreud]

Giving back to older/retired Americans

is not the same as giving to those who have earned nothing, by taking from those who have........see my point?

[TaffyAlpha]

That's a silly argument because medicare makes us YOUTHFUL people (who work) pay for the healthcare of OLD people who NO LONGER WORK. Old people should already know how to take care of themselves. Medicare takes advantage of young hard-working workers, and gives to nonworking RETIRED people. Practice what you preach! This is the same concept as welfare for the lazy poor!

[Texancubsfan001]

obama is a joke

[3martijns]

His VOICEMAIL was FULL ALL DAY, and other line a CONSTANT BUSY SIGNAL.

[satirewriter07]

@@jasonsadventure (RNC troll on a GOP site):

Nice talking points. Good thing The Messiah's here now, eh?

It's BLIND partisanship like Yours that's so divisive. You're more concerned with pointing fingers than being objective and finding Solutions. It's NUTS like YOU who can (still) whine about a Previous Admin. and claim it was Worse THEN (or that it's the 'Cause' of all our problems, Now).

People living in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.

Good luck with that.

(BTW: This vid SUCKS)

[jasonsadventure]

ah yo satirewriter07,

can u support any of ur claims or is ur post a masterful mix of irony & hypocrisy?

can u prove or even support that "i'm a blind partisan" or more concerned with finger pointing than objectivity?

can u point out one "nutty" claim i made?

isn't it hypocritical to condemn name calling while calling someone a name?

and then you quote an anti-hypocrisy aphorism (glass houses), really? wow!

wow bra, you've elevated ironic hypocrisy & logical fallacy to a zen like state

[satirewriter07]

Sure. Answer THESE, First:

-PROVE that we went to war "on a lie"

-PROVE bin Laden 'escaped' in Tora Bora

-PROVE Katrina was "deliberate" or "botched".. your sarcasm is EVIDENT, so how about POINTING THE FINGER where you Mean to?

-PROVE the GOP, NOT the RNC, "pits" people for votes

-PROVE Bush's "Unlimited" powers, war or otherwise, were Worse than MaObamas

-PROVE Bush "wrecked" the economy, OR that HE ruined our Nat'l Image.

You have BLIND allegiance to these claims. You're a KOOK.

Yo, Bra.

[jasonsadventure]

the iraqi lie - where's the wmd?

ben laden - it's a cia assessment

katrina - bodies floating in streets, brownie= bush crony

divisiveness - karl roves wedge strategy god, guns, flag, gays

powers - john yoo "unlimited power to act in foreign affairs and national security matters," patriot act

economy - paulson caused lehman bankruptcy, freezing credit market, 132 rep killed hr 3997 causing the greatest stock catastrophe in history

that what i got. besides imbecilic name calling what do u got?

[satirewriter07]

Um, for Starters? My SANITY.

Again, I could explain HOW wrong you Truly are, but you're a Waste of My Time. You attend one of the Biggest Bastions of Left-Wing Ideology our American Universities offer.

Attempting to convince you of Anything is an exercise in futility, just as this conversation is. You're an INDOCTRINATED tool; there's No Point in 'DISPROVING' your ACCUSATIONS.. that's ALL they Are.

Sadly, you BELIEVE your "facts" are correct. WHO'S your Source? The LIBERAL media. Enough said.

[jasonsadventure]

you could explain? really? how about no, you can't explain.

why? because the sum total of your intellectual prowess is ... substitution of capitalization for substance, soporific 5th grade ad hominems, misapplication of logical fallacies and

 condemnation of those with whom you disagree

no rationale, no insight, no depth

there are many brilliant, intellectually honest and insightful conservatives with serious points to make...

but ur the opposite, that's why you can't explain

[satirewriter07]

Yes, I COULD.

You're just into Personal Attacks; where's the SUBSTANCE of your point?

You copy & paste from HuffPo & Kos REALLY WELL; I'm impressed with your ability to read that 8th grade stuff!

You're right; us Conservatives ARE brilliant, MOST of us understand the likes of a closed-minded nitwit when we see one. Attempting to rationalize with U would be like making a case that Global Warming is "Man Made"; it's insidious.

And I know a LOT of "smart liberals"; they're called Conservatives.

[jasonsadventure]

what have you explained?

5th grade, silly, soporific attacks do not an explanation make. take one topic and demonstrate any insight at all.

explain how the bush admin was not responsible for freezing the credit markets when hank paulson allowed lehman brothers to fail, precipitating the aig bailout. explain the ideological conflict between systemic contagion & moral hazard. explain john yoo or the unitary exec, argue one point. no?

you wouldn't know brilliance if it slapped you in the ass.

[jasonsadventure]

oh... i understand. your ignorant. i can help

hank paulson refused to provide acquisition guarantees forcing lehmans bankruptcy, freezing the credit markets and causing aig to crash since they held billions in cds. these are simple facts.

so on to your craziness. how did obama leave goldman to survive? how is goldman a corp w/ obama because some contributed to his campaign?

hey satirewriter, how far up the human arse must a head be to say shit that stupid? i'm just curious.

[satirewriter07]

What have YOU explained??

NOTHING. You just keep throwing more absurd NONSENSE into the mix, with more hyperbolic rhetoric than you know what to do with.

You offer NO insight but keep asserting that's true of ME.

BTW: A "bait & switch" is when you slyly Change the subject to what YOU want to debate (see Red Herring), and counter any responses by reciting Talking Points that attempt to prove a Straw Man argument that YOU'VE created.

Now, go back to Berkeley and READ, little man. =]

[jasonsadventure]

so, you assert some subject was changed, but can't say what subject it was or to what it changed

you can't substantiate, in any way, any of your assertions.

for example point out one "absurd nonesense" that i threw "into the mix" you can't bro.

why do i go to right-wing sites, because on occasion i find someone, with whom i disagree, with interesting insights. i learn more that way

you can pick any of my statements and i can create a well reasoned justification. you can't, cause ur empty

[satirewriter07]

I REALIZE you're developmentally handicapped, I REALLY do. I'm TRYING to sympathize for you.

WHY in the WORLD are you talking about ME? Can you Begin to Answer THAT? You CHANGED THE TOPIC to 'ME', then started w/insults. You give a half-assed analysis of explaining yourself, then declare superiority (sound familiar, hypocrite?)

Do you even realize WHO'S running this country (into the ground) right now?

Do you understand it's YOUR beloved (SuperMajority) Incompetent Dems?

I'M not the Issue..

[jasonsadventure]

yes, remember the flip-flop but forget - going to war on a lie - warrentless wire taps & security letters - ben laden's escape to tora bora - katrina & browny's great job - pitting american's against one another for votes - the unitary executive - unlimted presidential war powers - dick chenney - a wrecked economy - a wrecked army - a wrecked national image you'll win 2010, cause that's the nature of a pendulum but 2012 is where you will really pay for both your crimes and your lies.

[Austinbit]

@jasonsadventure

I can debate all of those points but theres only one which really sticks out: warrentless wire taps & security letters

When they wiretap you, they aren't litterally listening to your conversation. Its a computer program scaning phone lines for key threat words. What is wrong with that? I'd rather have a machine hear me say hello to my family than have my family die in a terrorist attack that could have been halted.

[jasonsadventure]

what's wrong with that? our constitution.

if the executive branch can listen for threat words, the executive branch can listen for anything they don't like

the policies of insurance companies kill ten times more american's every year than all terrorist attacks ever will

yet when we save ourselves from their greed and corruption, the ignorant & hateful cry out "our freedoms" while praising a previous administration that did more to dismantle the constitution than any president of this century

[satirewriter07]

Yo, Red-Herring Man: can you PROVE the Executive Branch can listen for Anything they "don't like"? Or that the "policies of Insurance Companies kill ten times more Americans every year than all terrorist attacks EVER Will?

Of COURSE NOT.. what a TRULY IGNORANT comment.

Masterfully, you go Full-Circle here, with your hypocrisy:

"can u support any of ur claims or is ur post a masterful mix of irony & hypocrisy? wow bra, you've elevated ironic hypocrisy & logical fallacy to a zen like state"

LOL

[satirewriter07]

OMG, JasonsGotAnAdventureInHisPants­!

You're a Radical BERKELEY Nut! LMAO

That explains EVERYTHING. You're an indoctrinated College punk who's "learning" ALL the juicy details of America's "Evil Ways"!! My bad; didn't mean to interfere with your brainwashing programme..

Carry on. I won't waste my time with you anymore.. you're an educated idiot (with a bone to pick since you picked up your First College Book).

Enjoy Mommy & Daddy's MONEY!! Make 'em proud, kid.

[jasonsadventure]

yo satirewriter fyi... my mom died of cancer & my dad is an injured vet in a va hospital. i pay for school with scholarships & my own research

satirewriter you're ad-hominem, hate and hypocrisy is a dark sickening stench. it is the stench of attitudes like yours that has corrupted our political and social discourse

there's a disease in your generation that mine is washing-off as we go about making a more perfect union

though my politics different from my parents, i have made them proud

[jasonsadventure]

1 no, i can't prove that the executive branch can listen for anything they don't like. so what? i never asserted that i could.

2 though i can't prove the policies of insurers kill any more than i can prove that tobacco companies products kill. unlike you however, i can make an argument: 18,000 people die each year due to lack of coverage, due to insurers policies (archives of surgery)

i have and do provide support. you provide hypocrisy and ignorance.

[satirewriter07]

Hey Alan-Grayson wannabe:

If you can't make a Valid Point (but to ridicule ME while whining about being ridiculed), No One's EVER going to get into an honest, intellectual debate with you.

I'll bet your mom's right nut you're a 1st-Time Voter who believes in "Social-Justice" and "HopenChange", right?

People like You aren't Worthy of debate. You just DENY everything ANYWAY, and LIE with Bait & Switch arguments. I haven't WASTED my time with you because you're a dishonest TROLL. Why bother?

[jasonsadventure]

lol. awesome! you don't even have the intellectual wherewithal to come up with your own criticisms but rather copy mine!? really?

"you just deny everything" really? what have i denied?

"lie and switch arguments" really? what lie? what argument?

"can't make a valid point" how about eight valid points i made about the previous admin? did u refute even one? nope

dude, you have all intellectual game of a steaming pile of curled-up shit. read a book, take a class or read a book bra.

[jasonsadventure]

lmao wow satirewriter. rofl, that was awesome!

so i guess you decided, "what the fuck?" since all you got is shit-fer-brains, why even act smart?

but rather just let your gonorrhea luvin, gay-bar bashin, package envying, shit-fer-brains, bigoted true-self loose.

i mean what's the harm? it's not like anyone was gonna confuse you with someone that actually knew something

i say go for it satirewriter. embrace your inner moron and cut loose like a lactose intolerant milk drinker. lol!

[satirewriter07]

Ahhh. NOW you get it. You ARE slower than I thought.

Here's the deal, cheesepuff: I'm FUCKING WITH YOU because I don't value your opinion more than it takes to write WHILE I'm watching tv and doing Other shit.

I DON'T CARE what you have to say. You're JUST getting that?

I'm not even ATTEMPTING to persuade you with anything; you're a LOST CAUSE and there's NO WAY you're Indoctrinated mind will comprehend ANYTHING you've already been "taught".

So AGAIN; yes, "Blind Ideology". Get it NOW? Yet?

[jasonsadventure]

yes, yes, first "i can explain" now "i just joking" lmao!!

lol, gosh you're a fun right-wing moron satirewriter and i think you're an awesome example of how truly ignorant, angry and soporific extremist (right or left) are.

oh yeah, love the "i don't care" but "you keep posting" hypocrisy shtick. rofl, even my friends in the lab loved the raging denial and hypocrisy.

embrace that inner moron bro, you could be the next lunatic republican congressman!

[satirewriter07]

I mean.. I'M not the one TROLLING around on the Opposite Political Site spewing Bullshit (like anyone's going to actually Confuse you with someone that actually Knows something); that's YOUR department... (aside from the Ladies section).

I know, I know: "Gotta COPY me, bra?" lol

It's called MOCKERY, dipshit. Pull the dumbell out of your ass and stick with the mirror flexes. (/unghhh!)

[jasonsadventure]

huh? yo satirewriter, did you just stroke-out on capitalizations? what the fuck are you talking about? mockery? really? doesn't mockery involve wit and ridicule? i mean you got the irony and hypocrisy down, but that's not mockery

seriously satirewriter, maybe you should first get a prescription for paxil then take a class, read a book or ask a smart friend for help cause, far from witty mockery, you just sound angry, arrogant, hypocritical and a bit loopy.

[satirewriter07]

Huh? What, bra?

Lemme hitcha back when I'm done with these reps..

See the Beginning of our conversation, moron. The ONLY thing you're good at is changing the subject; you're Obviously good at getting whooped, which is why you avoid the Questions you were asked and return with propaganda bullshit, then personal insults.

Typical Liberal bait & switch. And as I said... Yeah?

Aren't YOU continuing to respond? I OWN YOU, MUSCLEHEAD. lmao

[jasonsadventure]

"changing the subject?" really? changed from what to what?

"propaganda bullshit" really? what bullshit? show it's propaganda or bullshit?

"bait & switch?" really? what was the bait? switch to what?

can you explain any, i mean any of your assertions? really, just one. i dare you. explain just one.

i won't promise i'll agree with your explanation, but i doubt there is any substance whatsoever in them. prove me wrong.

[satirewriter07]

Dear Dipshit-

Your charade is boring. You're an intellectual MORON. Look at my FIRST post, & TRY to address what I said (that started your Diversionary, infantile name-calling). I made the point that you're a blind partisan, and you Are. Don't admit it; as I said, I really don't Care. All you DID was go 3rd Grade on me and say "PROVE IT".

Might as well have said "Sticks & Stones". You're a poor Antagonist, but sadly,, that's ALL u are. You want to argue semantics. Grow up; you're BEYOND petty.

[satirewriter07]

Does THAT help you out on the "bait & switch" part, or the "I can't respond to Anything" part? Or the "can't say WHAT subject was Changed" part?

Holy Moses, man! Get the fuck out of the weight-room for 5 minutes and get some fresh fucking air! You're head's SO swollen, you don't even REALIZE you're Not Making Sense!

(How's THAT for a well-reasoned explanation, jughead?)

I DID what you ignorantly keep saying I "can't", so screw off.

You. Are. A. Boring. Antagonist. (and Retarded, at that).

[buddy34]

Thank you for this video!!!

[lacedelli89]

this is actually the fourth time they posted this video, get over it people.

[zunathanzu]

This is propaganda. Why don't you all face the facts. Health care reform is needed. Any change would be better than what we now have.

[MrBillTroop73]

"Health care reform is needed" . . . is exactly what they said in Nazi Germany.

READ YOUR HISTORY

[zunathanzu]

And Germany has a higher quality of life and life expectancy than the US even today that the Nazi regime is half a century ended. This is something the Germans understand even today, there is a better way to do health care, and the 12 countries with a quality of life better than US understand this too.

[MrBillTroop73]

God bless the Germans for giving us Festool.

But healthcare? You can keep your socialized healthcare, thank you. Since it is PROVEN the US has the very best medical system in the entire world, Ill be very happy to stick with what we have, and improve the very few things it needs.

[zunathanzu]

@MrBillTroop

Who has prooved the US has the best health care? According to the World health organization, there are a dozen countires with better health care, all of them have socialized medicine

[MrBillTroop73]

HAHAHAHAHA

[Austinbit]

@zunathanzu Every country in the world, excluding third world countries (since their unmeasurable when it comes to healthcare) is moving toward a freer market on healthcare. In fact, every country in the world is currently moving to the right. EVERY ONE, except for a small exception. The United States.

[zunathanzu]

@Austinbit

Where are you getting your info from? Free market on health care = more expensive heath care with lower quality.

[jasonsadventure]

the nazi's said, we need to reform health care?

where you home schooled by the kkk?

the nazi's had hate. hate of blacks, gays, women, jews, non-arians (much like the republican base) and went to exterminate them not give them health care.

i don't know what kind of twisted, perverted sickness has demented your minds other than blatant ignorance and hate.

america has been trying to wash off the stench of your ideology for 140 years and we the people are better than you.

[MrBillTroop73]

You should READ your HISTORY

The first thing the Nazi party did was to take over health care.

The KKK was the terrorist arm of the DEMOCRAT PARTY

[jasonsadventure]

wow. the nazi's built roads as well

so in your twisted way of interpreting history is road building a step toward nazism?

yes, the kkk WAS until goldwater and the southern strategy (circa 1964), up to you today, white racism, bigotry and hate has been central to republican political strategy.

[MrBillTroop73]

HAHAHAHAHA

your bait and switch DOESNT WORK

YOU LOSE

[jasonsadventure]

hahahahahaha,

you're twisted, racist ignorance doesnt work

you evil

[MrBillTroop73]

I can almost feel your racist hatred oozing

YOU LOSE

[jasonsadventure]

wow! really?

does that work for you? you spout something blatantly moronic and then declare victory?

okay... whatever you say right-wing crazy guy. enjoy that ride on your hot-air crazy balloon.

[MrBillTroop73]

insults coming from a racist KKK democrat?

Yeah, you LOSE

[satirewriter07]

That's ALL he HAS is Bait & Switch.. it's in his blood. :0p

[zunathanzu]

Canada, England, Austrailia, France... are all NOT Nazi countries. Yet they all have free health care, higher quality than USA.

[phillip42]

@zunathanzu Your kool-aid at MSNBC is sitting too long, get back to it.

[zunathanzu]

@phillip42 i have no idea what that means

[3martijns]

A Webb of Deceit can get someone caught in a spider Webb.

Down and Out next election cycle.