@ThePaultheking123 I don't care, uyghurs don't care how non asians are better treated. seeking independence never stops, seeking freedom never stops. this is human nature. to pursue freedom, own itself. i guess you understand this point, reading history, and even watching movies. we get excited when the heros free their people, and fight for independence. You think those ppl are different from us? we are all ppl, war never stops. we fight for freedom. this is basic.
Thanks to the security cameras...we see how Muslims slaughter non-Muslim civilians there on July 5th 2009. Search for those videos on youtube. Aljazeera is relatively unbiased, but when it comes to Muslim-related news...
Melissa chen is such a third-class rookie reporter! She learned the word "Xinjiang" as "new frontier" in Chinese, and she (deliberately&idiotically) made it as if it has been a new frontier to China for only fifty years or so. And from there, you can see the shadow of a mediocre western reporter in her. Real tragic for she looked just like a Chinese.
LOL aljazeera disables comments on News stories that makes the Middle east looks like shit. But not their neighbors. China should quit working with muslim scumbags and Join the west in their crusade.
One more thing!! This REporter is a sale out of her Chinese heritage!! I think shes been to almost every major Chinese cities and many rural or minority parts of China!! But the Bitch is still blinded by her western grewn brain washed misconception of China, which I don't think she realize is her motherland.
LOL lets make a comparison!! I bet the natives/indian reserves in northamerica would love it if their gov'ts would "INVEST" billions into their communities. I am sure that the billions invested will some how and some when eventually benefit each and every single native person. IF ONLY!!
And when China really "FOR REAL" invest billions into these far off regions in CHina, the west looks at it as bribing the minorities?? WTF!! you haters!! you people are just jealous !
Islam; religion of peace my ass. Hell Confucian/Taoist/Buddhism/ Christianity can get along in China but Islam can't. Hows that for tolerance. Hell the PRC/USA should band together and exterminate Islam form Earth and turn all the Muslim theocracies into glass craters for being intolerant.
@kamikazeroniner if you point to some people, some one. i might not write this. but you are pointing your hand toward 1.5 billion people, on earth? i guess, you have never been outside of you country to look around, and feel the diversity of human kind. You obviously have no idea with chinese policy toward religion. or have you asked any christian chinese in china, how they will be "arranged", and "organized"? buddism? Taoism? hahahaha Confusism,oh god! confucism exists in china now?
@sadirman Many of the Taoism/Confucianism philosophy is ingrained into "Chinese" civilization, it is responsible for the conservative values that maintain the status quo despite how fucked up the political situation.
@kamikazeroniner you obviously don't know how chinese government bans and restricts religion in china. have you ever seen or known any part of the china, with lots of christian population? ok, tibeten buddists?? what happended in 2008 3.15??? you say, islam is extrimism, but think about, when you don't even know or experienced, or asked "ppl" around in china, and based on some bias media and garbage articles on internet, and throw some shit here. are you extrimist or what?
@sadirman If that was the case why bother spending billions of tax $ on rebuilding things like temples after the Cultural Revolution. The CCP only goes after you if you are "challenging" them, they couldn't care if you believed in flying spaghetti monster(ever thought about that?). Your so called peaceful Tibetan monks were lighting shit on fire, intervene bullets & ly down on tank beds to die for their "cause". Yep "martyrs", something that the Dalai Lama should condone,but yet he endorse it.
@kamikazeroniner boy, i don't want to challenge ccp. i just want my rights to be equal. equally treated as Han, have my right to believe in what my ancesters have been believeing for thousand years. hey i just came from the region, i know how uyghurs are thinking. and i am an uyghur too. if you throw away what your ethnicity, and honestly talking, here. i am telling you the truth! we are not equally treated. they are lots of lots of unfair, torchering things going on. what;s the point.
@sadirman I understand what the citizens in the PRC faced, what kind of struck me is that non-Asians get better treated better by the government than the Asian natives.
@kamikazeroniner I don't care, uyghurs don't care how non asians are better treated. seeking independence never stops, seeking freedom never stops. this is human nature. to pursue freedom, own itself. i guess you understand this point, reading history, and even watching movies. we get excited when the heros free their people, and fight for independence. You think those ppl are different from us? we are all ppl, war never stops. we fight for freedom. this is basic.
I don't care how you think, I just want to tell you the truth, Uyghurs are better treated than Han in China. CCP treats Han very badly, a lot of Han hate CCP. Last year, Uyghur terrorists killed several Han Chinese and burned Han Chinese alive, but CCP did not arrest these terrorists, CCP released these terrorists after a few days. Han Chinese complained, but CCP ignored the complaints of Han Chinese.
@TheXanian I don't care, uyghurs don't care how non asians are better treated. seeking independence never stops, seeking freedom never stops. this is human nature. to pursue freedom, own itself. i guess you understand this point, reading history, and even watching movies. we get excited when the heros free their people, and fight for independence. You think those ppl are different from us? we are all ppl, war never stops. we fight for freedom. this is basic.我估计再看一遍，你懂
Uyghurs are not treated badly by the CCP, the people who are treated badly by the CCP are the Han Chinese. Uyghurs and other ethnic minorities have a lot of priviledges in China. Han Chinese do not have any prviledges and Han Chinese are treated badly by the government.
I heard that uyghurs are better treated than Han by the CCP.
CCP is afraid of Han, because if Han rebel, CCP would be destroyed. That's why CCP tries to control and to oppress Han.
Ughur students get unfair bonus points in the exams in Chinese high schools, not because they are smart, just because they are minorities. Minorities have a lot of priviledges in China, but Han don't have any priviledge.
@sadirman about Islam; it has keep people calm in places like war-torn Iraq and Afghanistan. About the Dalai Lllama; he's really a wolf in a sheep's costume imo; seeing as he's a religious/political leader in one; one of the most controversial roles, look what he has to say about "sex", a disgusting remark.
Man I love how people like quant4life talk shit of which they don't bother to research of rather. Hell as far as being exterminated; war is hell. There's a reason why the Romans lasted long for over 2000 years because they don't throw fits liberal hippie pussy foot shit around.
@sadirman I was describing the what would be the "norms" of that time, every one was in the same business it was a kill or be killed. It was not uncommon in any part of the world.
Hell the Ming dynasty should of exterminated the Manchurian for all they're worth. Teaching people to learn Mandarin is not genocide, like teaching illegal immigrants to learn English is not genocide. Assimilation=/=Genocide.
Let's see, the governor must be an uighur check, the uighur language is the official language, check, china uses taxpayer money from other regions to develop mosques and economic development check. Oh but please go on.
Playing the devil's advocate. jews were marginalised many times throughout the world and they still managed to move on and make a name for themselves. It's a pattern with muslims to focus on religion and those that are sucessful are because of oil.
@Synthe Surely you jest. The governor is Uyghur, sure. Collaborators always exist in occupied territories. Norway under the Nazis had Quisling, and France had Petain. But as in this case, they have little real power. In Xinjiang, the real power is in the CCP Chair, who is ALWAYS Han, and not even from Xinjiang. It's the same as in Tibet - a Tibetan picked officially "governor," but real power resting in the local CCP Chairman, who is always Han. Not that either is democratically elected anyway.
The war against the Afghan security forces, the Americans and their ISAF allies is still being conducted from Pakistan.
The country is an important safe haven for enemy forces -- and serves as a base for issuing their deployment. New recruits to the Taliban stream across the Pakistan-Afghan border, including feared foreign fighters -- among them Arabs, Chechnyans, Uzbekis, Uighurs and even European Islamists.
@bleupeony2 : The Wike leak documents explains how the Uighurs are part of the network of international terrorists. And this Uighur terrorism is continuing, with an attack on Uighur security police in Xinjiang, China this week.
see u t ube video: Wikileaks Afghanistan War Logs: Massive leak of secret files exposes truth about war :; google search Uighurs for story of bombing of Uighurs by Uighurs in China.
@videochemist : Yes, they usually do not allow comments.
On the issue of Uighurs and terrorism, we must remember that not all Uighurs live in Xinjiang, not all live in China, they live in Mongolia, Pakistan, Tajikistan, kirgiz, Kazakistan, Uzbeckistan and Turkmenistan. they have a cause that would make their "homeland" extend from Turkey thru China!!!
Some of these Uighurs, in all of these countries, do have connections with Al Qaeda, and the US HAS supported Uighur violence.
@videochemist : Seven persons, four of them uniformed Uighur policemen working for the Ministry of Public Security at Aksu in the Xinjiang Autonomous Region, were killed on August 19,2010, when an Uigur man and a woman approached a group of 15 Uighur policemen returning to a police station after performing their night beat duty and threw an explosive device at them.
east turkestan was doing a fine job of preserving and protecting uighur culture until the imperial CCP bling dynasty invaded, settling thousands of colonial ex-soldiers in the region. even under the manchu dynasty, which wasn't chinese, uighurs basically were autonomous. like tibet and mongolia, east turkestan was invaded for its resources and fertile land. it is a colonial project just like israel in palestine and england-france-spain in the americas.
Uighurs were the most powerful members of the Turkic Oghuz confederation, which included other clans such as the Khaljis. The yabghu of the Uighurs, Etmish Qutlugh Bilge, was a vassal of the Blue Turks when they were at the height of their glory under Kul Tegin and Bilge Kha’Khan.
@bleupeony2 : The pretender Özmish Khan seized the Blue Turk throne, three Altaic tribes, namely the Basmils from the region around modern Kucheng, the Uighurs from the region between the Kobdo and Selenga, and the Qarluqs from Eastern end of the Balkash Lake, tried to seize the empire of Mongolia. The Basmil made the first attempt by marching on Özmish Khan in 744 CE; they killed him in the battle and his capital Ötuegen was captured.
@bleupeony2 :They sold his severed head to the Chinese Emperor Hsuan Tsung hoping to obtain patronage from China. Confident of Chinese aid the lord of the Basmil Turks declared himself Kha’khan and the supreme ruler of all Mongolia. However, the Chinese governor Shuo Fang betrayed him when the yabghus of the Uighurs and Qarluqs made common cause with each other. This huge Uighur-Qarluq horde marched on Basmils in late 744.
@bleupeony2 : The Basmil army was beaten thoroughly by this coalition and its Kha’Khan was beheaded. The survivors were distributed as naukers amidst the victors or sold to the Chinese, and Basmil tribe was erased off the slate of Mongolian history.
Xinjiang is an arguably Chinese territory.. Soviets and China made a pact so that East Turkestan would be given to China.. I don't have anything against chinese, and I understand them, no one would give an independence to such nice territories, especially when land is so precious for densely peopled countri like China - I just think it is normal to admit some facts.
@quant4life : Your facts are slanted, sue to the US, CIA, planting so much "historis revision" as "history." Please see my other comments on this board.
Also, the Uighurs, who were nomadic, migrated from areas near Turkey thru Central Asia, into Mongolia. Only after their ruthless empire in Mongolia failed, when the Mongolians took back their land, did the Uighrs flee into far west Xinjiang, seeking protection from the Chinese.
u're talking crap dude - how the hell Uigurs came FROM areas near Turkey?? The Turks are actually descendants of Turkic Oguz tribe, any Turk can tell you this.No Turkic people came from west - we all migrated FROM EAST to WEST. Uigurs, Kazaks, Kyrgyz have inhabited East Turkestan since it appeared on the earth face. How would you explain that the cities and towns of Xinjang are called: Urumchi, Korla, Aksu (while water), Turfan, Altay, Khotan - these are all indigenous, Turkic names
@quant4life : Urumchi is not the original name of this city. It used to be called Ou Lu Mu chi. It means "The town she was born/marraied in. It was Chinese. China changed it to Urumchi to accomodate, and honour the many Uighurs living in western Xinjiang. Not that many Uighurs lived in Ou Lu Mu Chi.
Ok, what about the others - Aksu, Khotan, Altay, Turfan for example, they are mentioned in historical archives as being ancient cities & trade towns. And not chinese - for example Mogulistan, it included territory of East. Turk., Kyrgyzstan, and south of Kazakhstan, AND was inhabited and ruled by Kazakh & Kyrgyz. You can check it in wiki. Then Temirlan - the lands of Mogulistan were conquered by him, but the people stayed the same. U see, not only China have "right" for these lands.
Xinjiang is NOT the "motherland" of the Uighurs, nor the "Turk."
The very first people to live in far western Xinjiang were persian, then the Chinese. Hundreds of years before the failed Uighur state in Mongo;lia collapsed, and the Uighurs sought refuge in China.
Folks, do not believe the political propaganda from some of the Uighurs, who recieve money for their anti-China campaign from the USA.
Bush started this, when oil was discovered in Western China, there is photo that shows this
it would wise to give small bussiness loans to the women of the markets places to improve to market place with building small booths small stores ventor stands water and sewers for the public markets
Thank you for the report. And the opportunity to comment. Lets correct some of the false information.
1. Xinjiang is NOT the homeland of the Uighurs.
2. China did NOT invade the Uighur homelans, of Xinjiang, since they were in Xinjiand decades BEFORE Uighurs fled Mongolia to settle in Xinjiang.
3. The Chinese Gov has invested in economic opportunities for Uighurs, and other Muslims living in Xinjiang, but the Uighgurs refuse to become employed.
The ex- Singaporean leader (Lee Kwan Yew) felt it is unnecessarily to waste money & resources to help a bunch of lower IQ unproductive group of people (Austronesian) to improve their lives. That is how he created Singapore, made of 80% very high IQ Han Chinese, a small little isolated island but its economy's among top of the world, thus 1st class country. Uighurs/Turkish people are unintelligent yet very violent due to Islamic teaching & high testosterone hormone, thus pointless to help them.
saying that a Turkic-speaking people has lesser IQ than Han Chinese is quite chauvinistic, isn't it? i heard that Hans are of that racist nature, but didn't know it is true.. until now.
Simply denying the existence of IQ variation among different races would not help your community at all. Google the "world IQ map" or read the relevant research findings. That is a difference between racist & "race realist" you know ?! Take the 5000 years history as example, which civilization successfully thrived till present? Which nation was always most advanced before European rise in 17th century? Come to my channel to watch some videos.
more advanced? what about arabs and persians in math, astronomy, medicine, with europeans later using all these findings... why did u built a Great Wall if u were so advanced huh? to protect urself from our ancestors! Not ur invention of paper, nor the gunpowder helped u against steppe courage, fierce sabres, and keen arrows.. and we did conquer u not once but many times - all ur dynasties are of foreign origin - zhuzhans, mongols, hunns, manchus - we all ruled u. "advanced" )
regarding the IQ - i bet in China countryside there're no "Ensteins" either ) the Xinjang is mostly countryside, plus the fact that in the most schools there u teach in Chinese only, very few teach in Turkic languages. u should be either Chinese or Turkic people to tell that those languages are TOTALLY different. Like Russian and English. Or even farther. That's why IQ is lower, 'cause Han Chinese's policy is to assimilate and destroy other cultures, languages.
@quant4life Assimilate my ass, Han is an amalgam of many ethnic groups you dumb shit. China is only a modern concept. There was no such thing as as "China" prior to the 20th century, but different countries that occupy the land. Great Wall was built/refined by different political entities from time to time. Chinese is only nationality not a race. Huns/Xiongnu never ruled China they got their asses kicked by the Han and driven off. Mongols and their allies conquered the Song which took 150 yrs.
@quant4life What is considered Chinese today varied from time from time depending on the dynasty and the kingdoms (or countries) that existed in what we call "China"; just like how Europe's political identity changed form time to time.
Advanced meaning they were the first to used things like paper (toilet paper to wipe your ass), compasses to guide travelers, abacus to calculate, gunpowder which led to the first guns/cannons/flamethrowers/landmines/fuck you name it by the Song Dynasty. "Chinese" were the first to utilize Steel in their weapons and used them in war. They were 1st to use the Bessemer process in steel production. The manchurians didn't do shit but brought China into the dark ages and be humiliated by europeans
No foul language pls, I didn't go into personals with any of you Hans here. Great, I'm not underestimating the discoveries u did, but u're not alone in this. Period.
And don't u find it strange that despite technological supremacy in weaponry, u were defeated by horsemen with sabres and bows? Is it because they were so good, or ur advancement are exaggerated? )
@quant4life Oh sorry for foulness. Issues in Han history is rather complex it's more politics/internal issues than technological edge in reality. You have traitors on one hand. As far as Song Dynasty being conquered by the Mongols, they were the last to be defeated, after the European Knights,Persia,etc. The advancement weren't exaggerated, it's more than just Song vs Mongolia, but rather North vs South War in reality that dragged on for decades
@quant4life . Defeat by horseman were exaggerated , and many of the mongols formed a alliance with allies called the "Yuan Dynasty". The mongols did not play as a role much as their allies did in defeating the Song. It was a struggle between 5 kingdoms/countries who almost equally matched, The North Song,South Song,West Xia, Liao, and Jin as rivalries. The mongols had to form an alliance with the north countries to even stand a chance in taking the south. and plenty of other internal problems.
@quant4life The type of weapons these countries fought each other with were rather unmatched for it's time period. The had explosives, landmines/ seamines, trebuchets, flamethrowers, (god forbid) the deadly song arbalest are some examples of weapons of war. Many innovations at that time like hydraulics, odometers, math/science, the first Supernova explosion was witness in China.
The "Yuan Dynasty (allaince of mongol/north song/jin/liao/w.xia) employed the same weapons as the southern song country that went on for more 150 years. the defeat of the Song was truly overhypped; when in fact they fared far better than anyone else.
I think is just an exaggeration , at least in this videos i don't them in any poor people , maybe they need more development but they are not in a starving situation at all.
The Beijing Maoist state (or post Maoist state) ,Claimed every region that the past Imperial monarchical Chinese state had rule over. if it was not for the soviet union ,Mongolia would also be under Chinese Yoke.
China is trying to integrate and accommodate the Uighurs, The Uyghurs should fight for more autonomy and self government rather then full blown independence, same goes with Tibet.
"quality of life cant improve whilst fear governs the life of many " typical al-jazeera propaganda. A--l Jazeera never reports on the fear of terrorism used in the the uk and us not to mention the cctv. Chinese economey is on the rise and china is taking the seat of world economical superpower i guess Al-Jazeera don't like the idea.. tuff
@Lucifer986 How is it propaganda? All Al Jazeera is doing giving voice to the voiceless and telling a story that is not often heard. Does every story have to be about how those poor little westerners are living under the constant fear of the big bad terrorist coming to their house?
@BubbaGump332 : I believe the problem with this report, is Al Jazeera did allow both sides to state their positions, so one should not claim that the Uighur's position is Al jareer's position. Unfortunately, many will think Al Jareeza is stating the false information that in fact the Uighurs are stating.
@Lucifer986 Just wanting to tell you that you are full of shit. Al Jazeera is one of the most independent and objective media groups in the world. It's just YOU who doesn't like factual reportage. And guess what, Al Jazeera and every other media group with continue to write about China as long as you Chinese want to be the rulers/dictators of the world. If you don't like it, well, tough luck.
@WarrenEdwardBuffet : Al Jareeza is not responsible for the false information stated by the Uighurs. Al Jareeza is only reporting the lies and propaganda pouring out of the mouths of the Uighurs.
In fact, there are plenty of Muslims in Xinjiang who oppose the Uighurs. Xinjiang is NOT the "motherland" of the Uighurs nor Turks.
@GuyInvincible111 I agree with you. I wonder why UN and other international ORG are just watching the colonization in the 21st century although Chinese invasion in other regions are pretty obvious. Al Jazeera titled this video as Chinese policy's mixed results, but it looks more like Chinese policy segregates the Chinese social status from Islamic natives.
let's not forget, beijing invaded east turkestan and annexed against the will of its people, then used it for above ground nuclear testing. it's believed between 1-5M uighurs have died from radioactive contamination.
since 1911, when the manchu collapsed, chinese leaders have attempted to recreate the manchu empire which wasn't chinese and was one of the most aggressive aggrandizing empires in history. beijing thinks it inherited that empire which is perfect bullocks. FREE TIBET FREE UIGHURESTAN
@bleupeony2 Hard to believe your story too when it involves US funneling whatever money we don't have to spur some violence on the country that's so interdependent with our economy not to mention funds it. Plus history revision? CIA? What the.. Stop using us as excuses. I just wanna get good information from yall and some of your posts smell of crackpot ranting. the CIA are just a bunch of fuckups. They aren't even the primary counter intel agency anymore. try again on that one.
@bleupeony2 lol no wake up needed. The relationship between the bush and bin laden families are well known. He's just a symbol, and people are reluctant to use him these days. There are books about it....many books. house of bush house of saud is a decent one on it.
as for funding, who don't we fund? It's hard for "US funds such n' such" to matter because we indirectly fund a lot of groups including our enemies. Such is the curse of free market. all that can be read on wiki leaks.
@mispistoleros by your logic, Washington inheriting the colonies of the British Empire, French and Spanish colonial territories is also perfect bullocks. FREE THE AMERICAS!
Europeans and Americans and the Japanese have no right, no moral authority to accuse China of aggression and empire building in view of the past 4, 5 hundred years of human history.
welcome to Capitalism :)
codeagent47 6 months ago
傻逼,这个国家本来就是汉族的,跟维族有蛋关系,投资当然归汉族,维族庆幸我们没像吉尔吉斯坦那样对它们就不错了
ThePaultheking123 1 year ago
@ThePaultheking123 I don't care, uyghurs don't care how non asians are better treated. seeking independence never stops, seeking freedom never stops. this is human nature. to pursue freedom, own itself. i guess you understand this point, reading history, and even watching movies. we get excited when the heros free their people, and fight for independence. You think those ppl are different from us? we are all ppl, war never stops. we fight for freedom. this is basic.
sadirman 1 year ago
AlJazeeraEnglish? is this a pork channel?
rptopmbv 1 year ago
BERB
theAIRFREAK13 1 year ago
this ugly AIJazeera bitch
suyuanhang 1 year ago
Thanks to the security cameras...we see how Muslims slaughter non-Muslim civilians there on July 5th 2009. Search for those videos on youtube. Aljazeera is relatively unbiased, but when it comes to Muslim-related news...
logicandfact 1 year ago
Melissa chen is such a third-class rookie reporter! She learned the word "Xinjiang" as "new frontier" in Chinese, and she (deliberately&idiotically) made it as if it has been a new frontier to China for only fifty years or so. And from there, you can see the shadow of a mediocre western reporter in her. Real tragic for she looked just like a Chinese.
jakewangcheng 1 year ago
LOL aljazeera disables comments on News stories that makes the Middle east looks like shit. But not their neighbors. China should quit working with muslim scumbags and Join the west in their crusade.
stonewindimmortal 1 year ago
The Yuan conquest of the Song was a phyrric victory rather.
kamikazeroniner 1 year ago
One more thing!! This REporter is a sale out of her Chinese heritage!! I think shes been to almost every major Chinese cities and many rural or minority parts of China!! But the Bitch is still blinded by her western grewn brain washed misconception of China, which I don't think she realize is her motherland.
popoTb 1 year ago
LOL lets make a comparison!! I bet the natives/indian reserves in northamerica would love it if their gov'ts would "INVEST" billions into their communities. I am sure that the billions invested will some how and some when eventually benefit each and every single native person. IF ONLY!!
And when China really "FOR REAL" invest billions into these far off regions in CHina, the west looks at it as bribing the minorities?? WTF!! you haters!! you people are just jealous !
popoTb 1 year ago
Islam; religion of peace my ass. Hell Confucian/Taoist/Buddhism/ Christianity can get along in China but Islam can't. Hows that for tolerance. Hell the PRC/USA should band together and exterminate Islam form Earth and turn all the Muslim theocracies into glass craters for being intolerant.
kamikazeroniner 1 year ago 2
@kamikazeroniner if you point to some people, some one. i might not write this. but you are pointing your hand toward 1.5 billion people, on earth? i guess, you have never been outside of you country to look around, and feel the diversity of human kind. You obviously have no idea with chinese policy toward religion. or have you asked any christian chinese in china, how they will be "arranged", and "organized"? buddism? Taoism? hahahaha Confusism,oh god! confucism exists in china now?
sadirman 1 year ago
@sadirman Many of the Taoism/Confucianism philosophy is ingrained into "Chinese" civilization, it is responsible for the conservative values that maintain the status quo despite how fucked up the political situation.
kamikazeroniner 1 year ago
@kamikazeroniner you obviously don't know how chinese government bans and restricts religion in china. have you ever seen or known any part of the china, with lots of christian population? ok, tibeten buddists?? what happended in 2008 3.15??? you say, islam is extrimism, but think about, when you don't even know or experienced, or asked "ppl" around in china, and based on some bias media and garbage articles on internet, and throw some shit here. are you extrimist or what?
sadirman 1 year ago
@sadirman If that was the case why bother spending billions of tax $ on rebuilding things like temples after the Cultural Revolution. The CCP only goes after you if you are "challenging" them, they couldn't care if you believed in flying spaghetti monster(ever thought about that?). Your so called peaceful Tibetan monks were lighting shit on fire, intervene bullets & ly down on tank beds to die for their "cause". Yep "martyrs", something that the Dalai Lama should condone,but yet he endorse it.
kamikazeroniner 1 year ago
@kamikazeroniner boy, i don't want to challenge ccp. i just want my rights to be equal. equally treated as Han, have my right to believe in what my ancesters have been believeing for thousand years. hey i just came from the region, i know how uyghurs are thinking. and i am an uyghur too. if you throw away what your ethnicity, and honestly talking, here. i am telling you the truth! we are not equally treated. they are lots of lots of unfair, torchering things going on. what;s the point.
sadirman 1 year ago
@sadirman I understand what the citizens in the PRC faced, what kind of struck me is that non-Asians get better treated better by the government than the Asian natives.
kamikazeroniner 1 year ago
@kamikazeroniner I don't care, uyghurs don't care how non asians are better treated. seeking independence never stops, seeking freedom never stops. this is human nature. to pursue freedom, own itself. i guess you understand this point, reading history, and even watching movies. we get excited when the heros free their people, and fight for independence. You think those ppl are different from us? we are all ppl, war never stops. we fight for freedom. this is basic.
sadirman 1 year ago
@sadirman
I don't care how you think, I just want to tell you the truth, Uyghurs are better treated than Han in China. CCP treats Han very badly, a lot of Han hate CCP. Last year, Uyghur terrorists killed several Han Chinese and burned Han Chinese alive, but CCP did not arrest these terrorists, CCP released these terrorists after a few days. Han Chinese complained, but CCP ignored the complaints of Han Chinese.
TheXanian 1 year ago
@TheXanian I don't care, uyghurs don't care how non asians are better treated. seeking independence never stops, seeking freedom never stops. this is human nature. to pursue freedom, own itself. i guess you understand this point, reading history, and even watching movies. we get excited when the heros free their people, and fight for independence. You think those ppl are different from us? we are all ppl, war never stops. we fight for freedom. this is basic.我估计再看一遍，你懂
sadirman 1 year ago
@sadirman
Actually, according to historical records, Uyghurs came to Xinjiang much later than Han Chinese.
Uyghurs came to Xinjiang during late Tang Dynasty (around 800AD), while Han Chinese came to Xinjiang during Han Dynasty (around 100BC).
The original homeland of Uyghurs was Mongolian plateau, not Xinjiang.
TheXanian 1 year ago
@TheXanian 如果你真的这么认为,有什么证据？ 在新疆出土的古物当中有多少点有关汉文化的 东西么？ 文章可以写，历史可以编。我估计，在新疆问题没这么显眼的时候，在新疆的汉人只有那些兵团人的时候，谁都可没有听说过这种捡来的街史。 我要是汉人领导的话，肯定想方设法，让你相信点什么东西。况且在中国，这种没有 网络信息自由的国度，让你们有统一的，不管是真是还是假，要有个统一的思想，看法 何等简单。 去看看维吾尔人的DNA组成，估计是全世界(100年前)最复杂的，最混得一个。the original homeland 何曾是永恒的? :)
sadirman 1 year ago
@sadirman who the fuck care about uyghurs,calm down
ThePaultheking123 1 year ago
@sadirman
你以为CCP是真心向着汉族说话的? 现在世界上没有一个政府是为汉人说话的,包括中国政府. 汉人在中国都是四等公民,更别提在外国了. 你听过"一等洋人二等官,三等少民四等汉"这句话吗? 这就是汉族老百姓在中国的地位. 要起义那也是我们汉人起义,论不到你们维族什么事. CCP对你们少民很好,你们升学有加分,找工作也有人帮忙,甚至连犯了法都从宽处理,而且你们少民也没有计划生育,想生多少就生多少.我们汉人根本就没有你们这些特权,我们汉族老百姓被CCP的那些狗官剥削.
TheXanian 1 year ago
@sadirman
CCP的那群狗官都是一群汉奸,那些人就会欺压汉族老百姓,但是CCP对你们少民,对洋人都非常好.
除了中国之外,世界上没有一个国家贬低主体民族抬高少民. CCP剥削欺凌汉族老百姓,汉人没有言论自由,少民和洋人也欺凌汉人.
TheXanian 1 year ago
@sadirman
Uyghurs are not treated badly by the CCP, the people who are treated badly by the CCP are the Han Chinese. Uyghurs and other ethnic minorities have a lot of priviledges in China. Han Chinese do not have any prviledges and Han Chinese are treated badly by the government.
TheXanian 1 year ago
@sadirman
If you really want to be a hero, you should destroy CCP and free Han Chinese.
TheXanian 1 year ago
@sadirman
I heard that uyghurs are better treated than Han by the CCP.
CCP is afraid of Han, because if Han rebel, CCP would be destroyed. That's why CCP tries to control and to oppress Han.
Ughur students get unfair bonus points in the exams in Chinese high schools, not because they are smart, just because they are minorities. Minorities have a lot of priviledges in China, but Han don't have any priviledge.
TheXanian 1 year ago
@sadirman about Islam; it has keep people calm in places like war-torn Iraq and Afghanistan. About the Dalai Lllama; he's really a wolf in a sheep's costume imo; seeing as he's a religious/political leader in one; one of the most controversial roles, look what he has to say about "sex", a disgusting remark.
kamikazeroniner 1 year ago
Man I love how people like quant4life talk shit of which they don't bother to research of rather. Hell as far as being exterminated; war is hell. There's a reason why the Romans lasted long for over 2000 years because they don't throw fits liberal hippie pussy foot shit around.
kamikazeroniner 1 year ago
@kamikazeroniner but you are not Romans, you are wore than what you discribing.
sadirman 1 year ago
@sadirman I was describing the what would be the "norms" of that time, every one was in the same business it was a kill or be killed. It was not uncommon in any part of the world.
kamikazeroniner 1 year ago
Hell the Ming dynasty should of exterminated the Manchurian for all they're worth. Teaching people to learn Mandarin is not genocide, like teaching illegal immigrants to learn English is not genocide. Assimilation=/=Genocide.
kamikazeroniner 1 year ago
Religion is retarded. The more religious, the less economic development.
dolongchunfengzhou 1 year ago
"marginalised"
Let's see, the governor must be an uighur check, the uighur language is the official language, check, china uses taxpayer money from other regions to develop mosques and economic development check. Oh but please go on.
Playing the devil's advocate. jews were marginalised many times throughout the world and they still managed to move on and make a name for themselves. It's a pattern with muslims to focus on religion and those that are sucessful are because of oil.
Synthe 1 year ago
@Synthe
Urumqi is pretty modern but the south of Xinjiang where the Uighur majority areas like Aksu and Kashgar are still pretty backward.
I went their last year so I know this for a fact.
kingmafi6699 1 year ago
@kingmafi6699 and you know the reason, or at least think about or observe something. why those cities are backward. right?
sadirman 1 year ago
@Synthe Surely you jest. The governor is Uyghur, sure. Collaborators always exist in occupied territories. Norway under the Nazis had Quisling, and France had Petain. But as in this case, they have little real power. In Xinjiang, the real power is in the CCP Chair, who is ALWAYS Han, and not even from Xinjiang. It's the same as in Tibet - a Tibetan picked officially "governor," but real power resting in the local CCP Chairman, who is always Han. Not that either is democratically elected anyway.
kraorh 1 year ago
The war against the Afghan security forces, the Americans and their ISAF allies is still being conducted from Pakistan.
The country is an important safe haven for enemy forces -- and serves as a base for issuing their deployment. New recruits to the Taliban stream across the Pakistan-Afghan border, including feared foreign fighters -- among them Arabs, Chechnyans, Uzbekis, Uighurs and even European Islamists.
bleupeony2 1 year ago
@bleupeony2 : The Wike leak documents explains how the Uighurs are part of the network of international terrorists. And this Uighur terrorism is continuing, with an attack on Uighur security police in Xinjiang, China this week.
see u t ube video: Wikileaks Afghanistan War Logs: Massive leak of secret files exposes truth about war :; google search Uighurs for story of bombing of Uighurs by Uighurs in China.
bleupeony2 1 year ago
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greedyfoot 1 year ago
I'm glad AlJazeera moderators decided to leave the comments section open for a change. Lots of interesting and important information flowing so far.
videochemist 1 year ago 2
@videochemist : Yes, they usually do not allow comments.
On the issue of Uighurs and terrorism, we must remember that not all Uighurs live in Xinjiang, not all live in China, they live in Mongolia, Pakistan, Tajikistan, kirgiz, Kazakistan, Uzbeckistan and Turkmenistan. they have a cause that would make their "homeland" extend from Turkey thru China!!!
Some of these Uighurs, in all of these countries, do have connections with Al Qaeda, and the US HAS supported Uighur violence.
bleupeony2 1 year ago
@videochemist : Seven persons, four of them uniformed Uighur policemen working for the Ministry of Public Security at Aksu in the Xinjiang Autonomous Region, were killed on August 19,2010, when an Uigur man and a woman approached a group of 15 Uighur policemen returning to a police station after performing their night beat duty and threw an explosive device at them.
bleupeony2 1 year ago
FUCK THE HAN CHINESE, UIGHURSTAN FTW
moester101 1 year ago
east turkestan was doing a fine job of preserving and protecting uighur culture until the imperial CCP bling dynasty invaded, settling thousands of colonial ex-soldiers in the region. even under the manchu dynasty, which wasn't chinese, uighurs basically were autonomous. like tibet and mongolia, east turkestan was invaded for its resources and fertile land. it is a colonial project just like israel in palestine and england-france-spain in the americas.
it is illegitimate and indefensible.
mispistoleros 1 year ago
wolfsbreath666, uighurs are only nominally moslem. their cultural roots are tocharian, which predates any chinese in the region by millenia.
mispistoleros 1 year ago
Typical muslims
Wolfsbane909 1 year ago
Uighurs were the most powerful members of the Turkic Oghuz confederation, which included other clans such as the Khaljis. The yabghu of the Uighurs, Etmish Qutlugh Bilge, was a vassal of the Blue Turks when they were at the height of their glory under Kul Tegin and Bilge Kha’Khan.
bleupeony2 1 year ago
@bleupeony2 : The pretender Özmish Khan seized the Blue Turk throne, three Altaic tribes, namely the Basmils from the region around modern Kucheng, the Uighurs from the region between the Kobdo and Selenga, and the Qarluqs from Eastern end of the Balkash Lake, tried to seize the empire of Mongolia. The Basmil made the first attempt by marching on Özmish Khan in 744 CE; they killed him in the battle and his capital Ötuegen was captured.
bleupeony2 1 year ago
@bleupeony2 :They sold his severed head to the Chinese Emperor Hsuan Tsung hoping to obtain patronage from China. Confident of Chinese aid the lord of the Basmil Turks declared himself Kha’khan and the supreme ruler of all Mongolia. However, the Chinese governor Shuo Fang betrayed him when the yabghus of the Uighurs and Qarluqs made common cause with each other. This huge Uighur-Qarluq horde marched on Basmils in late 744.
bleupeony2 1 year ago
@bleupeony2 : The Basmil army was beaten thoroughly by this coalition and its Kha’Khan was beheaded. The survivors were distributed as naukers amidst the victors or sold to the Chinese, and Basmil tribe was erased off the slate of Mongolian history.
bleupeony2 1 year ago
Xinjiang is an arguably Chinese territory.. Soviets and China made a pact so that East Turkestan would be given to China.. I don't have anything against chinese, and I understand them, no one would give an independence to such nice territories, especially when land is so precious for densely peopled countri like China - I just think it is normal to admit some facts.
quant4life 1 year ago
@quant4life : Your facts are slanted, sue to the US, CIA, planting so much "historis revision" as "history." Please see my other comments on this board.
Also, the Uighurs, who were nomadic, migrated from areas near Turkey thru Central Asia, into Mongolia. Only after their ruthless empire in Mongolia failed, when the Mongolians took back their land, did the Uighrs flee into far west Xinjiang, seeking protection from the Chinese.
bleupeony2 1 year ago
@bleupeony2
u're talking crap dude - how the hell Uigurs came FROM areas near Turkey?? The Turks are actually descendants of Turkic Oguz tribe, any Turk can tell you this.No Turkic people came from west - we all migrated FROM EAST to WEST. Uigurs, Kazaks, Kyrgyz have inhabited East Turkestan since it appeared on the earth face. How would you explain that the cities and towns of Xinjang are called: Urumchi, Korla, Aksu (while water), Turfan, Altay, Khotan - these are all indigenous, Turkic names
quant4life 1 year ago
@quant4life : Urumchi is not the original name of this city. It used to be called Ou Lu Mu chi. It means "The town she was born/marraied in. It was Chinese. China changed it to Urumchi to accomodate, and honour the many Uighurs living in western Xinjiang. Not that many Uighurs lived in Ou Lu Mu Chi.
bleupeony2 1 year ago
@bleupeony2
Ok, what about the others - Aksu, Khotan, Altay, Turfan for example, they are mentioned in historical archives as being ancient cities & trade towns. And not chinese - for example Mogulistan, it included territory of East. Turk., Kyrgyzstan, and south of Kazakhstan, AND was inhabited and ruled by Kazakh & Kyrgyz. You can check it in wiki. Then Temirlan - the lands of Mogulistan were conquered by him, but the people stayed the same. U see, not only China have "right" for these lands.
quant4life 1 year ago
@bleupeony2 i am pretty sure this is just a homemade theory about the city i was born. you can just say something and fool people around. :)
sadirman 1 year ago
Open dialogue - yeah baby 8D
MilitantPeaceist 1 year ago
Xinjiang is NOT the "motherland" of the Uighurs, nor the "Turk."
The very first people to live in far western Xinjiang were persian, then the Chinese. Hundreds of years before the failed Uighur state in Mongo;lia collapsed, and the Uighurs sought refuge in China.
Folks, do not believe the political propaganda from some of the Uighurs, who recieve money for their anti-China campaign from the USA.
Bush started this, when oil was discovered in Western China, there is photo that shows this
bleupeony2 1 year ago
Great report, thanks for allowing comments this time :)
kevinelruler 1 year ago
it would wise to give small bussiness loans to the women of the markets places to improve to market place with building small booths small stores ventor stands water and sewers for the public markets
RCvolunteer1978 1 year ago
give it up China, I don't China dominating the World Stage, it's way 2 risky!!!
186713 1 year ago
Thank you for the report. And the opportunity to comment. Lets correct some of the false information.
1. Xinjiang is NOT the homeland of the Uighurs.
2. China did NOT invade the Uighur homelans, of Xinjiang, since they were in Xinjiand decades BEFORE Uighurs fled Mongolia to settle in Xinjiang.
3. The Chinese Gov has invested in economic opportunities for Uighurs, and other Muslims living in Xinjiang, but the Uighgurs refuse to become employed.
bleupeony2 1 year ago
@bleupeony2
Xinjiang is the motherland for Turk
YUSKHAN 1 year ago
@YUSKHAN : No, it is not. Stop spreading false information.
bleupeony2 1 year ago
@YUSKHAN
Motherland of Turks is Turkey, we are Turkic people, not Turkish.
quant4life 1 year ago 2
Those windmills are so awesome. Very nice country.
OS253 1 year ago
The ex- Singaporean leader (Lee Kwan Yew) felt it is unnecessarily to waste money & resources to help a bunch of lower IQ unproductive group of people (Austronesian) to improve their lives. That is how he created Singapore, made of 80% very high IQ Han Chinese, a small little isolated island but its economy's among top of the world, thus 1st class country. Uighurs/Turkish people are unintelligent yet very violent due to Islamic teaching & high testosterone hormone, thus pointless to help them.
smartgirlfat 1 year ago
@smartgirlfat
Fuck you.
niamtxiv 1 year ago
@smartgirlfat
saying that a Turkic-speaking people has lesser IQ than Han Chinese is quite chauvinistic, isn't it? i heard that Hans are of that racist nature, but didn't know it is true.. until now.
quant4life 1 year ago
@quant4life
Simply denying the existence of IQ variation among different races would not help your community at all. Google the "world IQ map" or read the relevant research findings. That is a difference between racist & "race realist" you know ?! Take the 5000 years history as example, which civilization successfully thrived till present? Which nation was always most advanced before European rise in 17th century? Come to my channel to watch some videos.
smartgirlfat 1 year ago
@smartgirlfat
more advanced? what about arabs and persians in math, astronomy, medicine, with europeans later using all these findings... why did u built a Great Wall if u were so advanced huh? to protect urself from our ancestors! Not ur invention of paper, nor the gunpowder helped u against steppe courage, fierce sabres, and keen arrows.. and we did conquer u not once but many times - all ur dynasties are of foreign origin - zhuzhans, mongols, hunns, manchus - we all ruled u. "advanced" )
quant4life 1 year ago
@smartgirlfat
regarding the IQ - i bet in China countryside there're no "Ensteins" either ) the Xinjang is mostly countryside, plus the fact that in the most schools there u teach in Chinese only, very few teach in Turkic languages. u should be either Chinese or Turkic people to tell that those languages are TOTALLY different. Like Russian and English. Or even farther. That's why IQ is lower, 'cause Han Chinese's policy is to assimilate and destroy other cultures, languages.
quant4life 1 year ago
@quant4life Assimilate my ass, Han is an amalgam of many ethnic groups you dumb shit. China is only a modern concept. There was no such thing as as "China" prior to the 20th century, but different countries that occupy the land. Great Wall was built/refined by different political entities from time to time. Chinese is only nationality not a race. Huns/Xiongnu never ruled China they got their asses kicked by the Han and driven off. Mongols and their allies conquered the Song which took 150 yrs.
kamikazeroniner 1 year ago
@quant4life What is considered Chinese today varied from time from time depending on the dynasty and the kingdoms (or countries) that existed in what we call "China"; just like how Europe's political identity changed form time to time.
kamikazeroniner 1 year ago
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kamikazeroniner 1 year ago
Advanced meaning they were the first to used things like paper (toilet paper to wipe your ass), compasses to guide travelers, abacus to calculate, gunpowder which led to the first guns/cannons/flamethrowers/landmines/fuck you name it by the Song Dynasty. "Chinese" were the first to utilize Steel in their weapons and used them in war. They were 1st to use the Bessemer process in steel production. The manchurians didn't do shit but brought China into the dark ages and be humiliated by europeans
kamikazeroniner 1 year ago
@kamikazeroniner
No foul language pls, I didn't go into personals with any of you Hans here. Great, I'm not underestimating the discoveries u did, but u're not alone in this. Period.
And don't u find it strange that despite technological supremacy in weaponry, u were defeated by horsemen with sabres and bows? Is it because they were so good, or ur advancement are exaggerated? )
quant4life 1 year ago
@quant4life Oh sorry for foulness. Issues in Han history is rather complex it's more politics/internal issues than technological edge in reality. You have traitors on one hand. As far as Song Dynasty being conquered by the Mongols, they were the last to be defeated, after the European Knights,Persia,etc. The advancement weren't exaggerated, it's more than just Song vs Mongolia, but rather North vs South War in reality that dragged on for decades
kamikazeroniner 1 year ago
@quant4life . Defeat by horseman were exaggerated , and many of the mongols formed a alliance with allies called the "Yuan Dynasty". The mongols did not play as a role much as their allies did in defeating the Song. It was a struggle between 5 kingdoms/countries who almost equally matched, The North Song,South Song,West Xia, Liao, and Jin as rivalries. The mongols had to form an alliance with the north countries to even stand a chance in taking the south. and plenty of other internal problems.
kamikazeroniner 1 year ago
@quant4life The type of weapons these countries fought each other with were rather unmatched for it's time period. The had explosives, landmines/ seamines, trebuchets, flamethrowers, (god forbid) the deadly song arbalest are some examples of weapons of war. Many innovations at that time like hydraulics, odometers, math/science, the first Supernova explosion was witness in China.
kamikazeroniner 1 year ago
The "Yuan Dynasty (allaince of mongol/north song/jin/liao/w.xia) employed the same weapons as the southern song country that went on for more 150 years. the defeat of the Song was truly overhypped; when in fact they fared far better than anyone else.
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poiuytrewq6641 1 year ago
AlJazeera is becoming utter rubbish channel day by day. Go report your own Arabic abuse in the belief of Islam.
fashionxue 1 year ago
I think is just an exaggeration , at least in this videos i don't them in any poor people , maybe they need more development but they are not in a starving situation at all.
DraskyVanderhoff 1 year ago
The Beijing Maoist state (or post Maoist state) ,Claimed every region that the past Imperial monarchical Chinese state had rule over. if it was not for the soviet union ,Mongolia would also be under Chinese Yoke.
China is trying to integrate and accommodate the Uighurs, The Uyghurs should fight for more autonomy and self government rather then full blown independence, same goes with Tibet.
Obasiliasfilosofos 1 year ago
"quality of life cant improve whilst fear governs the life of many " typical al-jazeera propaganda. A--l Jazeera never reports on the fear of terrorism used in the the uk and us not to mention the cctv. Chinese economey is on the rise and china is taking the seat of world economical superpower i guess Al-Jazeera don't like the idea.. tuff
Lucifer986 1 year ago
@Lucifer986 How is it propaganda? All Al Jazeera is doing giving voice to the voiceless and telling a story that is not often heard. Does every story have to be about how those poor little westerners are living under the constant fear of the big bad terrorist coming to their house?
BubbaGump332 1 year ago
@BubbaGump332 : I believe the problem with this report, is Al Jazeera did allow both sides to state their positions, so one should not claim that the Uighur's position is Al jareer's position. Unfortunately, many will think Al Jareeza is stating the false information that in fact the Uighurs are stating.
bleupeony2 1 year ago
@Lucifer986 Just wanting to tell you that you are full of shit. Al Jazeera is one of the most independent and objective media groups in the world. It's just YOU who doesn't like factual reportage. And guess what, Al Jazeera and every other media group with continue to write about China as long as you Chinese want to be the rulers/dictators of the world. If you don't like it, well, tough luck.
WarrenEdwardBuffet 1 year ago
@WarrenEdwardBuffet yeah right i prefer Russia today a objective and honest station
Lucifer986 1 year ago
@WarrenEdwardBuffet : Al Jareeza is not responsible for the false information stated by the Uighurs. Al Jareeza is only reporting the lies and propaganda pouring out of the mouths of the Uighurs.
In fact, there are plenty of Muslims in Xinjiang who oppose the Uighurs. Xinjiang is NOT the "motherland" of the Uighurs nor Turks.
bleupeony2 1 year ago
every country is racist,this is the fact!
YeoSuanMei 1 year ago
Neo-liberalism has not led to the miracle of the global alleviation of poverty. It merely has reactivated ancient forms of imperialism.
GuyInvincible111 1 year ago
@GuyInvincible111 I agree with you. I wonder why UN and other international ORG are just watching the colonization in the 21st century although Chinese invasion in other regions are pretty obvious. Al Jazeera titled this video as Chinese policy's mixed results, but it looks more like Chinese policy segregates the Chinese social status from Islamic natives.
kiminibump7 1 year ago
let's not forget, beijing invaded east turkestan and annexed against the will of its people, then used it for above ground nuclear testing. it's believed between 1-5M uighurs have died from radioactive contamination.
since 1911, when the manchu collapsed, chinese leaders have attempted to recreate the manchu empire which wasn't chinese and was one of the most aggressive aggrandizing empires in history. beijing thinks it inherited that empire which is perfect bullocks. FREE TIBET FREE UIGHURESTAN
mispistoleros 1 year ago
@mispistoleros so can u explain who are those people..wat make them diffrent.
nayabingi100 1 year ago
@nayabingi100 They(=Uighurs) have own script, own language, own culture, own religion...etc
HotZetiGer 1 year ago
@HotZetiGer but it is Chinese land
Lucifer986 1 year ago
@HotZetiGer : Yes, but only in Xinjiang, China. China is the only country in the world that preserves and protects the Uighur language and culture.
bleupeony2 1 year ago
@mispistoleros I don't believe this at all. But I'm interested in any sources you may have on that.
staticbb 1 year ago
@staticbb : See my comments on the history of the Uighurs.
bleupeony2 1 year ago
@bleupeony2 Hard to believe your story too when it involves US funneling whatever money we don't have to spur some violence on the country that's so interdependent with our economy not to mention funds it. Plus history revision? CIA? What the.. Stop using us as excuses. I just wanna get good information from yall and some of your posts smell of crackpot ranting. the CIA are just a bunch of fuckups. They aren't even the primary counter intel agency anymore. try again on that one.
staticbb 1 year ago
@staticbb : My info comes from the US gov, the testimony at the hearings/trials of the Uighurs at Guantanimo, and the Treasury Department.
Wake up. Who do you think created Bin Laden?
Google search "our terrorists" issue 426
bleupeony2 1 year ago
@bleupeony2 lol no wake up needed. The relationship between the bush and bin laden families are well known. He's just a symbol, and people are reluctant to use him these days. There are books about it....many books. house of bush house of saud is a decent one on it.
as for funding, who don't we fund? It's hard for "US funds such n' such" to matter because we indirectly fund a lot of groups including our enemies. Such is the curse of free market. all that can be read on wiki leaks.
staticbb 1 year ago
@mispistoleros by your logic, Washington inheriting the colonies of the British Empire, French and Spanish colonial territories is also perfect bullocks. FREE THE AMERICAS!
Europeans and Americans and the Japanese have no right, no moral authority to accuse China of aggression and empire building in view of the past 4, 5 hundred years of human history.
jchien 1 year ago