Very interesting. But this was in 2008 and he was predicting a crash within 2 weeks. I still am intrigued by the big picture, especially the flimsy nature of our consumption knowledge. Like Y2K, there could be some extreme scenarios here, but planning won't hurt. Thank you.
@nickschor1 Matt Simmons was correct. Peak oil occurred in or about 2005 but not realized until subsequent YoY data showed oil production plateaued. Global growth halted, big oil & military know the dire peak oil crisis is here. Over 50% of US East Coast refining capacity will be gone by July 2012 when 3 PA refineries close. Plus, a 495,000 bpd in St Croix closing that was major supplier to East Coast. Peak oil has hit hard. Military highest priority; civilian usage gets cut.
Very interesting. But this was in 2008 and he was predicting a crash within 2 weeks. I still am intrigued by the big picture, especially the flimsy nature of our consumption knowledge. Lie Y2K, there could be some extreme scenarios here, but planning won't hurt. Thank you.
Since Obama has been in office, gas is up 87% ($1.34/gallon in Feb. 2009 to the national average of $3.58 today). Last week in Ca , I paid $4.19 it will be over $5.00 by Christmas... it will not go down.
Remember, Obama said his plan would cause energy prices to “skyrocket.” This is one promise he has kept.
God bless Matt......The U.S. lifestyle can only be sustained with cheap liquid transport fuels not the off-shore, deep, and hard to get at expensive stuff....
Human greed won't stop! We are starting 2011, welcome to the start of the resource wars. The poor people who do live a simple sustainable lifestyle will again find themselves brutally overrun by the greedy "gimme" lifestylers. That is now most of the world. I live in the USA. Are we as a nation taking the lead to conserve and stop our wasteful life styles? Hell, our own leaders won't even tell us about peak oil.
@PeterSodhi My appologies I had the wrong tab open, I thought you were talking about somebody else, lol
I definitely am saddened to hear he passed,
He is very smart, No matter what happens, if we continue our rate of consumption of oil, in 29 years we will reach the end no doubt about it, in 30 years we must be moved into a new form of energy system, it can happen sooner but its 100 fact that our consumption cannot last 29 years from this comment
Why dont peak oil people talk more about bicycles. Sure, there are other uses for oil, but transport is the biggest. In Europe they have embraced the use of bicycles, in some Dutch cities almost as many people ride a bike to work as drive. Riding a bike is not torture, it is quite enjoyable, particularly if the infrastructure is there.
@KrunchyJD, bicycles make a lot of sense, as you say, "if the infrastructure is there." That may be true in many US cities and towns, although auto drivers are not as accustomed to watching out for bicyclists. It may be more challenging for peopee to use in suburban sprawl. I think bicycle use has increased during the economic downturn. We've done one show on electric bikes (for rural areas) and plan to do one on cargo bikes.
@peakmoment Sprawl is a big problem. We, meaning most places in the world, should be designing our cities with walkable, "bikable" distances in mind, and good electrified public transport between each long distance place. End car dependency.
@KrunchyJD Its sad every time we attempt to move forward like the electric car, the big businesses stop it from succeeding, I remember as a kid looking at General Motors EV1 first commercial electric car, go into the history of this car and you will see, big business never wanted electric cars to get off the ground, it was a billion dollar idea but what do you do when you need no oil changes, no major engine repair cause electric engines are simple, no transmission problems, they killed it
@itsadeadmansparty The ellectric car is a good idea for Rural area's. It is at best only a partial solution for cities. Small electric vehicles which could be pedalled like a bicycle as well which weigh only 30kg are the solution, and before anyone comments they exist already. The problem with cars is not only their use of fossil fuels, its the space they require to avoid gridlock. That is why cities are sprawled out, because of the car, suburbia is co-dependent on the car.
@KrunchyJD Did you hear about the inventor who made an engine that is powered by Air? just a simple air compressor, He invented an entire car that can be powered by Air, I like the small electric car idea, but you know electric cars are not limited to small distances, some electric cars can go over 100 miles and still run 60mph, the batteries exist and can be made for less money since they can be recycled easily,but the gov doesnt want to stop oil, at all, they even invaded Iraq for oil,very sad
@KrunchyJD Sadly the system may have to crash before people realize the facts, realize that a monetary system enslaves humans and keeps us from progressing to where we need to be today. Almost anything is possible when we work together, we can build bridges in hours, travel to the moon with a gameboy speed processor, hell we could make cities self sustainable, i think Jacque Fresco is right, Let technology help us and abandon the old paradigm that money will get you to where we all need to be.
Growing food locally is not always a good idea. it takes less carbon fuels to raise a lamb in new zealand and kill it there and send it to the US to eat it here. thats because sheep in new zealand are pastured in their natural meadows whereas here we feed them grain. It really just depends on what food you want to grow locally and how many carbon fuels go into it.
@bencactusrite, NZ lamb shipped here may be cheaper (use less oil) while oil prices are low if you compare that with industrial agricultural production in the US (corn fed).
What we need to do is what they're doing in NZ: raise the animals locally on pasture. Our local producers raise their animals on soils not good enough for agriculture, but sufficient for animal forage. The transportation is within 10-50 miles, not thousands of miles. The feedstock is local.
@peakmoment DUDE. its not only cheaper, its easier on the environment, meaning it uses fewer carbon emissions. DUDE-that means it is more sustainable. so look, either we learn to live without lamb steaks or we buy it somewhere else. THE REASON WE DONT GROW OUR LIVESTOCK ON PASTURE IS BECAUSE WE DONT HAVE PASTURE. NZ IS ECOLOGICALLY SUPERIOR WITH PASTURES. UNLESS YOUR SAYING THAT WE SHOULD CONVERT OUR FARMLAND TO PASTURE; IN THAT CASE YOU'RE STUPIDER THAN YOU SOUND.
What about bikes, America is a nation of fatties, why not build urban density, and short bicycle trips. End sprawl, encourage cycling, like they do in Europe
@itsadeadmansparty I want bike usage, i love riding bikes, You know I just dont know! I dont know if bicycling could work with our distances here in West States. I do feel bad saying those things, I should have actually listened and admitted i dont know
@itsadeadmansparty Despite your previous aggressive email, that is not shown here, I will answer this.
Firstly, noone said that people should make 30 mile trips by bike.However, most car trips are short. Secondly people look at this the wrong way. They say we have designed places in a spread out way so we will have to not ride a bike. What we should be saying, is lets design walkable bikable communities with good integrated electrified public transport, between long distance locations.
@KrunchyJD Sadly that would take so much redesign and deconstruction to actually fulfill, it is almost impossible for our western states, We have more then 30 mile trips to work some times, We just dont have people who think that way, that why venus project never leaves the ground. Most of our parents and older generation know only the way it is, they cant understand that there is a solution that is a world without boarders or money, John Lennon even made a song pretty much like vproj Imagine
I dont think we need to deconstruct things as much as you claim. Simply build people orientated higher density into popular locations, and stop sprawl. Dont build more roads, build electric rail over distances. The suburbia which is over 30 miles from anywhere, will simply die off, as it rightly should.
@KrunchyJD I agree, Europeans are super smart, they think ahead, and they dont have a ton of free space or miles of open land like here in USA, we build far away because we have so much land unused, we are a baby country only been around for a short amount of time, we still have much to learn from Europe and Asia, we had strength to overcome the axis and build technology to get us to the moon, We can solve these problems, but people have to be open minded and become problem solvers again.
this guy needs to realize not all work (in fact not any real significant work) is done from a computer moving decimals around trying to fuck people out of money. the work done that keeps this country and economy moving is industrial work, manufacturing, farming, etc. - show me how to stay home and do this from my fucking house!
Peak oil may make climate change worse. We could run low on oil and then fire up coal liquification and use more tar sands . . . both more CO2 intensive. :-/
We need to move transportation to electricity and go nuclear, wind, and solar.
thid stuff is so much more compelling that climate change- it is coming from a man who you can trust and he is well respected within the business community and his numbers are transparent--- i keep banging on about how climate change is sucking all the oxygen from the very serious threats we face from the nature Matt is talking about here..... Even though he is going on about the worst case scenario - it is wise to understand that these scenarios are on the table! just wild!!!!
Even if true, human caused climate change is irrelevant. Peak oil is the real challenge facing the human race. Sky high oil price will do more for the environment than emmisions cuts will ever do.
@Flagstaff12 I agree- the find it increasingly frustrating that climate change is sucking all the oxygen out of the space to really get across the implication around peak oil. I hope the hell matt is wrong about the potential for how quickly this could all unravel. this is scary stuff cheers
The electric economy is a fantasy. Its not going to happen. The natural resources to replace the automobile fleet does not exist. The natural resources to create enough batteries for us to keep on 'happy motoring' dose not exist. The natural resources to generate the electricity to charge the batteries dose not exist. Solar, wind? Gimmie a break! They will never contribute more than a drop in the bucket compared to oil energy.
I agree -- we're not going to replace the fossil fuels with electricity not at the scale we're using energy now. Only after we powerdown to a very significant extent.
I disagree. There is no shortage of renewable energy, the problem is that we really don't have an especially efficient way of capturing it. For example, imagine the potential of fusion for electricity generation. Matt Simmons is involved in a wind project which he envisions replacing home heating oil AND creating liquid ammonia, which he says can replace motor gasoline.
We both have named limitations for renewables right NOW: scaling them up to the level needed (since they are much less efficient than fossil fuels), capturing, storing, distributing, creating infrastructures for all of these, and modifying or building new equipment to use them. Thinkers like Michael Klare suggest that renewables can do what we need on a far more efficient usage scale, but we lack the investment, etc. in time to make a smooth transition.
I agree with you here. But we still need to work on it. Bad times are coming if we don't get a good replacement to the oil we are going to lose to peak oil.
Absolutely we need to keep working on it. But serious peak oil scholars like Richard Heinberg & Michael Klare don't see any way we can fully replace the energy-density of oil. Looks pretty clear we can't keep up these consumption levels...not just of oil, but many other resources. Ocean fisheries~ Fresh water~ Topsoil~
We have lots of free electricity, so long as it's at night. The generators take a long time to come up to speed and so if we charge our cars at night, we won't need to add capacity or upgrade the grid for decades. Obviously battery material and the diesel machines that mine it are a problem... Yes, soil depletion, fish depletion, copper... It goes on and on, and mining them is heavily dependent on fossil fuels. People don't understand how important FF really are.
Efficiency of renewable energy is becoming a luxury. If we don't mass produce these things NOW...it'll be too late.
Compare it to WW2 ...the germans made the very first jet engine fighter, a truelly magnificent piece of engineering and aviation, and it would dominate the skies. However it was near the end of the war, and too late to make a difference.
Even with an all out, WW2 style effort (putting every resource the country has into the problem), it will take decades for a transition and cost trillions of dollars. America simply doesn't have that kind of money and we are borrowing beyond control for other thins right now. NOTHING is going to even begin until a major shock hits the country,
Priority one is clean water, if that business is self sufficiently powered, then the worst part is over. Otherwise people will have to move away from their homes in search of it. Second would be food. Having national announcements to make your own garden that can feed and sustain your family. De-urbanisation, breaking down parts of the city not used and make it a local food plantation for gardenless housing. Then heating for the housing. The rest is just luxury.
DE-urbanization? Urban centers are the most efficient way of living we know of, it's the suburbs that are so bad. City life requires far less energy per capita. Food can be grown just outside of the city I think re urbanization will be the trend for this century if we don't blow ourselves up.
We have quite a bit of excess electricity generation capacity at night. Electricity usage drops greatly at night but they can't lower the generation at night because it takes days to bring the generators up to speed. We could add millions of cars to the grid as long as it's at night. Cities are a huge problem for electric cars because so few people have a garage or even an available spot outside of their house. The batteries might be a problem. Simmons says we can use ammonia instead of gasoline
Matt is an optimistic realist. He sees a lot of challenges in the future of fossil fuels -- and as an Energy Investment Banker, he knows his stuff. He has done the research (and wrote Twilight in the Desert). But he's also working to create renewable alternatives, like a wind power project off the coast of Maine.
Resources exist to be consumed. And consumed they will be, if not by this generation then by some future. By what right does this forgotten future seek to deny us our birthright? None I say! Let us take what is ours, chew and eat our fill.
those who doesn't beleive oil is running out just remember discovery of new oil reserve as necessary to keep us going GONNA. Yes there will be new one's, but in 30 years, you and me not gonna have cars burning gasolines. Because gallon will be about $7-10. You may say "well we will have new technology by then". Well what is gonna move us so cheaply as natural oil? Battery driven cars?
it makes no sense...I mean the private sector can either turn the page or let India and China turn the page for us...All they have to do is turn electric companies into the "oil". Demand will always be there and you go green. Make the people happy and get paid. It's that simple growth increases at 7% a year... and doubles every 10. SO Wake Up private sector nothing's free you know shit just copy Warren Buffet and you get paid. haha
Were running out of oil,bullshit.We heard that crap all last year.Did anyone see 60 minutes the other night. The cat is out of the bag. The whole oil crises was caused by the investment banks,investors and speculators.Saudi has 2 new large oil fields coming online this year.One field has an estimated quantity of all the oil in USA...And for the global warming crap.Better get a warm coat because scientist are saying we are the edge of an upcoming ice age...
You're mad. Saudis new fields aren't isolate, both are supposed to maintain retrieval rate.
Maybe point to the fields in Central Asia. However we're dealing with unstable, Talibanized regions that'll likely collapse very soon. Not to mention, one that involves Chinese, Indian, Iranian, and Russian interests.
the biggest flaw of peak theory is that it undermines people ability to innovate and adopt.. throughout people history on earth they switched between resources and improved way of life through technology, invention, adaptation. The fact is when oil peaks people would already be using something else or have found new technologies to produce oil or other energy,, the stone age did not end because we ran out of stone
If peak oil theory induces people to use new technologies, as you sugest, then we should be moving wholesale to those technologies right now. Peak oil isn't about running out of oil -- it's about demand exceeding supply. That's been true for several years now (peak has probably happened).
I hope knowing about peak oil will be a motivator to get people to innovate. Problem is, we are so thoroughly dependent, on a global scale, and it takes 10-20 years to develop new energy sources.
When oil becomes too expensive to buy, transport shuts down. All the other services that rely on transport, and manufacturing of the other oil products also shut down. Electricity shuts down.
British and Australian governments recently claimed that they have no contingency plans for this eventuality. When it does occur, there will be denial and delay initially (this is where we are now), then it will be too late to act.
That's why a lot of people are building local community self-reliance and resiliency -- to be prepared for such contingencies. Stopping all economic activity for long periods of time will probably not happen; it'll just get more and more expensive. Be we should be prepared for shortages, rationing, curtailment--and sharing.
What if oil peaks somewhere between 2010 and 2015, and (inevitably) we're still more-or-less in the same place as we are now: completely dependent on oil to maintain our civilisation, even in terms of feeding ourselves.
There's nothing far fetched about this scenario - the writing is on the wall.
So your faith that technology will save us seems to me utterly naive, but at the same time fascinating - I wish I understood your psychology better.
um, that's not the point of the example, the point of the example is that people will phase out oil before it runs out, just like many other things through the history of human beings, stoves replaced wood fire, producing food replaced hunting, etc.. peak oil believers think that one day we will wake up and find hell has broken loose, that won't happen, oil will peak gradually and people will adapt, just like when its price rose to 150 other things emerged
Oil has been peaking gradually since 2005, and you are correct, people are adapting.
They are adapting by being priced out of markets. Hey, demand destruction, great! Now that all you people in Haiti and Bangladesh are no longer eating there's plenty to go around again! More biofuels please.
I'm interested to know what "other things emerged" earlier this year that replaced oil and why I did not hear about them.
right now it seems hard to believe this especially because of plummeting oil price due to economy forecast.
i dont't know how close we are to the tipping point but i understand it will happen and we don't seem to change the way we live untill it happens..We should start changing our life style.seriouslly.
that is because govts are using local 3 month storage and are not spending on oil to save the economy, private cash is also not speculating on oil for the same reason
What is going to end is our uncontrolled spending and unhealthy everyday habits.
More and more people are going to turn to public transportation, re-using objects, microgeneration of renewables and eating and growing food locally bescause there are clear benefits for these kinds of actions RIGHT NOW, not in some Mad Max fantasy that some people are waiting for.
I have been trying to get local politicians to talk to me about promoting telecommuting rather than spending on roads - for 2 years I have emailed them - and not 1 return call.
secondary schools will become "virtual" in the next 5 years.. Elementary schools will be all that exist largely like they are now...so folks have free daycare.
2 and 1/2 acres of corn will make 1100 gallons of good old fashioned ethanol...at least you can do some personal driving and farming if you have some ground and know how to operate a still..im sure glad im hill people...we have a long history of making fuel...
Are you saying folks couldn't grow anything without fertilizer? Or that the ethanol-producer above would need fertilizer for his corn (or sorghum or whatever)?
Thank-you for asking for clarification. My comment was rashly stated. I am saying that it is naive to think corn ethonol can help much with a energy resource shortage because the net energy use is negative. First of all there is a lack of rich compost that could be used for non-food production.
thank God that i got nervous and planted a garden. we have just seen what happens when people run to the gas station and fill up...here in the southeast we are just not getting back to normal after the Texas hurricane
Thanks for posting this. Matt is pretty nervous here. That's time to worry.Nobody is secure if their neighbor is hungry. Fill your pantry, get your seeds for next season. Local food, local economies, local energy sources are the key to survival. We import about 700 billion dollars worth of fuel every year. Some coincidence, ain't it?
90% of the driving and burning of fuel we are doing is for things that don't need to be done. Close the malls and home improvement stores and turn off the lights.
What is going to end is our uncontrolled spending and unhealthy everyday habits.
More and more people are going to turn to public transportation, re-using objects, microgeneration of renewables and eating and growing food locally bescause there are clear benefits for these kinds of actions RIGHT NOW, not in some Mad Max fantasy that some people are waiting for.
It's pretty funny about the deniers. I for one am not for spreading the word. The reason; As Matt said coulda, shoulda done. We are past solutions. Now like the financial system we need to brace for the shock. Like the Stock market the naysayers will get it after the event happens.
Looking though some of the posts here it is depressing that some just don't get it. Oil is finite and while we will never run out the problem is production versus demand. Production is declining rapidly, as fields long ago discovered, deplete - Cantarell is a prime example. Several years from now there will be no exports from Mexico to the US. The US imports 71 % of its oil whereas it used to be the Saudi Arabia of the world. Demand worldwide is increasing. Ignore Simmons at your peril.
New ways of drilling has opened up vast oil fields in the US. 8 times as much oil as Saudi Arabia and it's all right here in the Western United States. Google: Bakken oil formation. No dought we will need more refineries to deal with this glutten of oil to make it easier to ship.
You listen to Hannity dont you? The Final report from the US Geological Survey stated that Bakken only had 3.0 to 4.3 billion barrels of oil. At current consumption, not even a years worth. Please do your own research if you do not believe me.
oil is finite that is true, but you are assuming that people won't innovate and adapt as they did for thousands of years, eventhough u have a clear example infront of you that when oil got more expensive demand was reduced and other energy sources got more into production and use,,, keep in mind that 90% or more of oil use is for transportation, so if people invent other means of transportation then problem is solved, and i think this is doable
If people filled there cars up then the next few days no one would be buying gas and the gasoline pool would fill back up. Another nobody getting a few people to listen to him. The sky is falling!
Right now only about half of the refineries in the gulf are back online after the hurricanes. How long will it take for the gasoline pool to fill back up if emptied? Weeks? If truckers have no fuel, how long will food stay on the market shelves?
I don't tend to be an alarmist. But I share Matt's concern that no one in government or elsewhere is monitoring this vulnerability for our society.
Price is not an indicator of resource decline in the ground; prices can fluctuate depending on availability of finished products and other things. For any FINITE resource we use, at some point supplies can't keep up with demand. That's what peak oil is about, and it's rapidly approaching.
This guy is a salesman-a high pressure sales person-the worst sort of salesman. We have had other forms of energy for over thirty years but it has been the monopoly men that have kept solar energy and wind energy from being utilized-this guy is not a teacher-he is a high pressure salesman for the Rothschilds and the rockefellars of the world-they are the ones that dumb down our schools with high pressure salesmen!
We have had alternative forms of energy for over 30 years but it is just more profitable for big companies and monopoly men to use the easiest resources first-and raise prices by using fear tactics rather than making solar energy and wind energy more readily available-I am more of a teacher than that salesman is!
I knew it was just a mater of time Janaia! It's going to get much worse before it ever gets better. They just keep printing money we don't have and it's worthless other countrys are starting to see that and are going to stop dealing and giving money to the USA! When that happens they will not be prepaired for the consiqinces of what the Iraq war and Nation building has done.
Wow! Good thing I have a scooter that I can ride to work. They sell them for about 1400 in sporting goods stores. That thing gets 80mpg! Anyway, if I start with a full tank of gas in my car but siphon it to keep my scooter tank full, I can commute and pickup groceries for almost 3 months before I run out. Transportation is covered. Now all I have to worry about is whether there will be groceries at WinCo or a job for me to commute to.
lol thats good. I myself have 6 months of both food and water supply because it would take me a 3 day walk to a wallmart lol
Gees it takes me 30 minutes by car to get to the nearest gas station. I live in rural south carolina and I been looking into this whole crises, you figure you'd get some kind of warning from your gov't but we know thats not going to happen
I agree that Brazil's autos run on alcohol, and don't import a drop of oil. Don't believe the myths surrounding alcohol/ethanol fuel; they are not based in real science.
Why a developing country is far developed than USA is my question.India was a self-sustaining economy@1947 by Swadeshi-Movement of leaders at the year 1942.Each village was a factory/Industries with Agro-based self=dependence.Sometime thinking bank to solution is solution now like India-Solar,Horse,Ox-Bullock cart dependent.
This is possibly the one and only video you need to show your doubting-Thomas loved ones. If THIS video doesn't give them a sobering chill of the sort that waked them up, then nothing will.
is an awesome, complete 600 page book about using ethanol as a fuel for ANY vehicle. Brazil's autos run on alcohol, and don't import a drop of oil. Don't believe the myths surrounding alcohol/ethanol fuel; they are not based in real science. The process of using cellulose rich plants for fuel production will INCREASE FOOD production. Let me challenge ANY nay-sayers. Come on. I want to hear opposition....if Logical. Please get the book and learn something
Very interesting. But this was in 2008 and he was predicting a crash within 2 weeks. I still am intrigued by the big picture, especially the flimsy nature of our consumption knowledge. Like Y2K, there could be some extreme scenarios here, but planning won't hurt. Thank you.
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@nickschor1 Matt Simmons was correct. Peak oil occurred in or about 2005 but not realized until subsequent YoY data showed oil production plateaued. Global growth halted, big oil & military know the dire peak oil crisis is here. Over 50% of US East Coast refining capacity will be gone by July 2012 when 3 PA refineries close. Plus, a 495,000 bpd in St Croix closing that was major supplier to East Coast. Peak oil has hit hard. Military highest priority; civilian usage gets cut.
LightReuse 2 weeks ago
Very interesting. But this was in 2008 and he was predicting a crash within 2 weeks. I still am intrigued by the big picture, especially the flimsy nature of our consumption knowledge. Lie Y2K, there could be some extreme scenarios here, but planning won't hurt. Thank you.
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Since Obama has been in office, gas is up 87% ($1.34/gallon in Feb. 2009 to the national average of $3.58 today). Last week in Ca , I paid $4.19 it will be over $5.00 by Christmas... it will not go down.
Remember, Obama said his plan would cause energy prices to “skyrocket.” This is one promise he has kept.
onstageagain 10 months ago
Rest in Peace Mr. Simmons. You brought awareness to many!
loganenator 11 months ago
I miss Matt :(
Knossos22 11 months ago
Thank you for making this available Janaia!
Tribute2the80s 1 year ago
God bless Matt......The U.S. lifestyle can only be sustained with cheap liquid transport fuels not the off-shore, deep, and hard to get at expensive stuff....
MrEnergyCzar 1 year ago
Human greed won't stop! We are starting 2011, welcome to the start of the resource wars. The poor people who do live a simple sustainable lifestyle will again find themselves brutally overrun by the greedy "gimme" lifestylers. That is now most of the world. I live in the USA. Are we as a nation taking the lead to conserve and stop our wasteful life styles? Hell, our own leaders won't even tell us about peak oil.
MrTAKESINBJS247 1 year ago
work at home, ride a bike or take the bus. I have not driven a car in 14 years and I do not miss it one bit
persevere67 1 year ago
Very sad that he died today.
PeterSodhi 1 year ago
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itsadeadmansparty 1 year ago
@itsadeadmansparty Yes he died. Very sad, search the web.
PeterSodhi 1 year ago
@PeterSodhi My appologies I had the wrong tab open, I thought you were talking about somebody else, lol
I definitely am saddened to hear he passed,
He is very smart, No matter what happens, if we continue our rate of consumption of oil, in 29 years we will reach the end no doubt about it, in 30 years we must be moved into a new form of energy system, it can happen sooner but its 100 fact that our consumption cannot last 29 years from this comment
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R.I.P. Matt Simmons
DeepW1nter 1 year ago
Why dont peak oil people talk more about bicycles. Sure, there are other uses for oil, but transport is the biggest. In Europe they have embraced the use of bicycles, in some Dutch cities almost as many people ride a bike to work as drive. Riding a bike is not torture, it is quite enjoyable, particularly if the infrastructure is there.
KrunchyJD 1 year ago 6
@KrunchyJD, bicycles make a lot of sense, as you say, "if the infrastructure is there." That may be true in many US cities and towns, although auto drivers are not as accustomed to watching out for bicyclists. It may be more challenging for peopee to use in suburban sprawl. I think bicycle use has increased during the economic downturn. We've done one show on electric bikes (for rural areas) and plan to do one on cargo bikes.
peakmoment 1 year ago
@peakmoment Sprawl is a big problem. We, meaning most places in the world, should be designing our cities with walkable, "bikable" distances in mind, and good electrified public transport between each long distance place. End car dependency.
KrunchyJD 1 year ago
@KrunchyJD Its sad every time we attempt to move forward like the electric car, the big businesses stop it from succeeding, I remember as a kid looking at General Motors EV1 first commercial electric car, go into the history of this car and you will see, big business never wanted electric cars to get off the ground, it was a billion dollar idea but what do you do when you need no oil changes, no major engine repair cause electric engines are simple, no transmission problems, they killed it
itsadeadmansparty 1 year ago
@itsadeadmansparty The ellectric car is a good idea for Rural area's. It is at best only a partial solution for cities. Small electric vehicles which could be pedalled like a bicycle as well which weigh only 30kg are the solution, and before anyone comments they exist already. The problem with cars is not only their use of fossil fuels, its the space they require to avoid gridlock. That is why cities are sprawled out, because of the car, suburbia is co-dependent on the car.
KrunchyJD 1 year ago
@KrunchyJD Did you hear about the inventor who made an engine that is powered by Air? just a simple air compressor, He invented an entire car that can be powered by Air, I like the small electric car idea, but you know electric cars are not limited to small distances, some electric cars can go over 100 miles and still run 60mph, the batteries exist and can be made for less money since they can be recycled easily,but the gov doesnt want to stop oil, at all, they even invaded Iraq for oil,very sad
itsadeadmansparty 1 year ago
@KrunchyJD Sadly the system may have to crash before people realize the facts, realize that a monetary system enslaves humans and keeps us from progressing to where we need to be today. Almost anything is possible when we work together, we can build bridges in hours, travel to the moon with a gameboy speed processor, hell we could make cities self sustainable, i think Jacque Fresco is right, Let technology help us and abandon the old paradigm that money will get you to where we all need to be.
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Growing food locally is not always a good idea. it takes less carbon fuels to raise a lamb in new zealand and kill it there and send it to the US to eat it here. thats because sheep in new zealand are pastured in their natural meadows whereas here we feed them grain. It really just depends on what food you want to grow locally and how many carbon fuels go into it.
bencactusrite 1 year ago
@bencactusrite, NZ lamb shipped here may be cheaper (use less oil) while oil prices are low if you compare that with industrial agricultural production in the US (corn fed).
What we need to do is what they're doing in NZ: raise the animals locally on pasture. Our local producers raise their animals on soils not good enough for agriculture, but sufficient for animal forage. The transportation is within 10-50 miles, not thousands of miles. The feedstock is local.
peakmoment 1 year ago
@peakmoment DUDE. its not only cheaper, its easier on the environment, meaning it uses fewer carbon emissions. DUDE-that means it is more sustainable. so look, either we learn to live without lamb steaks or we buy it somewhere else. THE REASON WE DONT GROW OUR LIVESTOCK ON PASTURE IS BECAUSE WE DONT HAVE PASTURE. NZ IS ECOLOGICALLY SUPERIOR WITH PASTURES. UNLESS YOUR SAYING THAT WE SHOULD CONVERT OUR FARMLAND TO PASTURE; IN THAT CASE YOU'RE STUPIDER THAN YOU SOUND.
aaronvespro 1 year ago
What about bikes, America is a nation of fatties, why not build urban density, and short bicycle trips. End sprawl, encourage cycling, like they do in Europe
KrunchyJD 1 year ago
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itsadeadmansparty 1 year ago
@itsadeadmansparty I want bike usage, i love riding bikes, You know I just dont know! I dont know if bicycling could work with our distances here in West States. I do feel bad saying those things, I should have actually listened and admitted i dont know
itsadeadmansparty 1 year ago
@itsadeadmansparty Despite your previous aggressive email, that is not shown here, I will answer this.
Firstly, noone said that people should make 30 mile trips by bike.However, most car trips are short. Secondly people look at this the wrong way. They say we have designed places in a spread out way so we will have to not ride a bike. What we should be saying, is lets design walkable bikable communities with good integrated electrified public transport, between long distance locations.
KrunchyJD 1 year ago
@KrunchyJD Sadly that would take so much redesign and deconstruction to actually fulfill, it is almost impossible for our western states, We have more then 30 mile trips to work some times, We just dont have people who think that way, that why venus project never leaves the ground. Most of our parents and older generation know only the way it is, they cant understand that there is a solution that is a world without boarders or money, John Lennon even made a song pretty much like vproj Imagine
itsadeadmansparty 1 year ago
@itsadeadmansparty Watch the end of suburbia..
I dont think we need to deconstruct things as much as you claim. Simply build people orientated higher density into popular locations, and stop sprawl. Dont build more roads, build electric rail over distances. The suburbia which is over 30 miles from anywhere, will simply die off, as it rightly should.
KrunchyJD 1 year ago
@KrunchyJD I agree, Europeans are super smart, they think ahead, and they dont have a ton of free space or miles of open land like here in USA, we build far away because we have so much land unused, we are a baby country only been around for a short amount of time, we still have much to learn from Europe and Asia, we had strength to overcome the axis and build technology to get us to the moon, We can solve these problems, but people have to be open minded and become problem solvers again.
itsadeadmansparty 1 year ago
this guy needs to realize not all work (in fact not any real significant work) is done from a computer moving decimals around trying to fuck people out of money. the work done that keeps this country and economy moving is industrial work, manufacturing, farming, etc. - show me how to stay home and do this from my fucking house!
KURTNDAWN 1 year ago
Anyone notice how long it has been?
CyberAthletethefirst 1 year ago
Peak oil may make climate change worse. We could run low on oil and then fire up coal liquification and use more tar sands . . . both more CO2 intensive. :-/
We need to move transportation to electricity and go nuclear, wind, and solar.
speculawyer 2 years ago
thid stuff is so much more compelling that climate change- it is coming from a man who you can trust and he is well respected within the business community and his numbers are transparent--- i keep banging on about how climate change is sucking all the oxygen from the very serious threats we face from the nature Matt is talking about here..... Even though he is going on about the worst case scenario - it is wise to understand that these scenarios are on the table! just wild!!!!
CandianBear 2 years ago
Even if true, human caused climate change is irrelevant. Peak oil is the real challenge facing the human race. Sky high oil price will do more for the environment than emmisions cuts will ever do.
Flagstaff12 2 years ago 3
@Flagstaff12 I agree- the find it increasingly frustrating that climate change is sucking all the oxygen out of the space to really get across the implication around peak oil. I hope the hell matt is wrong about the potential for how quickly this could all unravel. this is scary stuff cheers
CandianBear 2 years ago
I like how many people here point to other countries
for sources of oil. Are we going to yet another war to compete with growing populations like China and India?
snoxon27 2 years ago
The electric economy is a fantasy. Its not going to happen. The natural resources to replace the automobile fleet does not exist. The natural resources to create enough batteries for us to keep on 'happy motoring' dose not exist. The natural resources to generate the electricity to charge the batteries dose not exist. Solar, wind? Gimmie a break! They will never contribute more than a drop in the bucket compared to oil energy.
jpd1235 2 years ago 5
I agree -- we're not going to replace the fossil fuels with electricity not at the scale we're using energy now. Only after we powerdown to a very significant extent.
peakmoment 2 years ago
I disagree. There is no shortage of renewable energy, the problem is that we really don't have an especially efficient way of capturing it. For example, imagine the potential of fusion for electricity generation. Matt Simmons is involved in a wind project which he envisions replacing home heating oil AND creating liquid ammonia, which he says can replace motor gasoline.
christo930 2 years ago
We both have named limitations for renewables right NOW: scaling them up to the level needed (since they are much less efficient than fossil fuels), capturing, storing, distributing, creating infrastructures for all of these, and modifying or building new equipment to use them. Thinkers like Michael Klare suggest that renewables can do what we need on a far more efficient usage scale, but we lack the investment, etc. in time to make a smooth transition.
peakmoment 2 years ago
I agree with you here. But we still need to work on it. Bad times are coming if we don't get a good replacement to the oil we are going to lose to peak oil.
christo930 2 years ago
Absolutely we need to keep working on it. But serious peak oil scholars like Richard Heinberg & Michael Klare don't see any way we can fully replace the energy-density of oil. Looks pretty clear we can't keep up these consumption levels...not just of oil, but many other resources. Ocean fisheries~ Fresh water~ Topsoil~
peakmoment 2 years ago
We have lots of free electricity, so long as it's at night. The generators take a long time to come up to speed and so if we charge our cars at night, we won't need to add capacity or upgrade the grid for decades. Obviously battery material and the diesel machines that mine it are a problem... Yes, soil depletion, fish depletion, copper... It goes on and on, and mining them is heavily dependent on fossil fuels. People don't understand how important FF really are.
christo930 2 years ago
Efficiency of renewable energy is becoming a luxury. If we don't mass produce these things NOW...it'll be too late.
Compare it to WW2 ...the germans made the very first jet engine fighter, a truelly magnificent piece of engineering and aviation, and it would dominate the skies. However it was near the end of the war, and too late to make a difference.
kardentyrell 2 years ago
Even with an all out, WW2 style effort (putting every resource the country has into the problem), it will take decades for a transition and cost trillions of dollars. America simply doesn't have that kind of money and we are borrowing beyond control for other thins right now. NOTHING is going to even begin until a major shock hits the country,
christo930 2 years ago
Priority one is clean water, if that business is self sufficiently powered, then the worst part is over. Otherwise people will have to move away from their homes in search of it. Second would be food. Having national announcements to make your own garden that can feed and sustain your family. De-urbanisation, breaking down parts of the city not used and make it a local food plantation for gardenless housing. Then heating for the housing. The rest is just luxury.
kardentyrell 2 years ago
DE-urbanization? Urban centers are the most efficient way of living we know of, it's the suburbs that are so bad. City life requires far less energy per capita. Food can be grown just outside of the city I think re urbanization will be the trend for this century if we don't blow ourselves up.
christo930 2 years ago
We have quite a bit of excess electricity generation capacity at night. Electricity usage drops greatly at night but they can't lower the generation at night because it takes days to bring the generators up to speed. We could add millions of cars to the grid as long as it's at night. Cities are a huge problem for electric cars because so few people have a garage or even an available spot outside of their house. The batteries might be a problem. Simmons says we can use ammonia instead of gasoline
christo930 2 years ago
@jpd1235 what about extraterrestrial energy?
carlesls 1 year ago
is this guy a doomer ?
florgat91 2 years ago
Matt is an optimistic realist. He sees a lot of challenges in the future of fossil fuels -- and as an Energy Investment Banker, he knows his stuff. He has done the research (and wrote Twilight in the Desert). But he's also working to create renewable alternatives, like a wind power project off the coast of Maine.
peakmoment 2 years ago
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Resources exist to be consumed. And consumed they will be, if not by this generation then by some future. By what right does this forgotten future seek to deny us our birthright? None I say! Let us take what is ours, chew and eat our fill.
weeboodeath 2 years ago
those who doesn't beleive oil is running out just remember discovery of new oil reserve as necessary to keep us going GONNA. Yes there will be new one's, but in 30 years, you and me not gonna have cars burning gasolines. Because gallon will be about $7-10. You may say "well we will have new technology by then". Well what is gonna move us so cheaply as natural oil? Battery driven cars?
symmetry08 3 years ago
it makes no sense...I mean the private sector can either turn the page or let India and China turn the page for us...All they have to do is turn electric companies into the "oil". Demand will always be there and you go green. Make the people happy and get paid. It's that simple growth increases at 7% a year... and doubles every 10. SO Wake Up private sector nothing's free you know shit just copy Warren Buffet and you get paid. haha
thealex12345 3 years ago
Were running out of oil,bullshit.We heard that crap all last year.Did anyone see 60 minutes the other night. The cat is out of the bag. The whole oil crises was caused by the investment banks,investors and speculators.Saudi has 2 new large oil fields coming online this year.One field has an estimated quantity of all the oil in USA...And for the global warming crap.Better get a warm coat because scientist are saying we are the edge of an upcoming ice age...
avionicswirenut 3 years ago
You're mad. Saudis new fields aren't isolate, both are supposed to maintain retrieval rate.
Maybe point to the fields in Central Asia. However we're dealing with unstable, Talibanized regions that'll likely collapse very soon. Not to mention, one that involves Chinese, Indian, Iranian, and Russian interests.
raptorkiller2k5 2 years ago
Well said peakmoment.
We can choose to;
bicycle as much as possible,
grow our own food amap,
get a water tank and greywater system,
improve the energy efficiency of our home.
The next decade will reveal whether or not people today can control our greed, in order to leave something for our descendants.
culchasampla 3 years ago 2
the biggest flaw of peak theory is that it undermines people ability to innovate and adopt.. throughout people history on earth they switched between resources and improved way of life through technology, invention, adaptation. The fact is when oil peaks people would already be using something else or have found new technologies to produce oil or other energy,, the stone age did not end because we ran out of stone
kingofusers 3 years ago
If peak oil theory induces people to use new technologies, as you sugest, then we should be moving wholesale to those technologies right now. Peak oil isn't about running out of oil -- it's about demand exceeding supply. That's been true for several years now (peak has probably happened).
I hope knowing about peak oil will be a motivator to get people to innovate. Problem is, we are so thoroughly dependent, on a global scale, and it takes 10-20 years to develop new energy sources.
peakmoment 3 years ago
When oil becomes too expensive to buy, transport shuts down. All the other services that rely on transport, and manufacturing of the other oil products also shut down. Electricity shuts down.
British and Australian governments recently claimed that they have no contingency plans for this eventuality. When it does occur, there will be denial and delay initially (this is where we are now), then it will be too late to act.
culchasampla 3 years ago
That's why a lot of people are building local community self-reliance and resiliency -- to be prepared for such contingencies. Stopping all economic activity for long periods of time will probably not happen; it'll just get more and more expensive. Be we should be prepared for shortages, rationing, curtailment--and sharing.
peakmoment 3 years ago
What if oil peaks somewhere between 2010 and 2015, and (inevitably) we're still more-or-less in the same place as we are now: completely dependent on oil to maintain our civilisation, even in terms of feeding ourselves.
There's nothing far fetched about this scenario - the writing is on the wall.
So your faith that technology will save us seems to me utterly naive, but at the same time fascinating - I wish I understood your psychology better.
ancalagon12321 3 years ago
"the stone age did not end because we ran out of stone"
um, you don't burn up stone when you use it.
postpeakman 3 years ago
um, that's not the point of the example, the point of the example is that people will phase out oil before it runs out, just like many other things through the history of human beings, stoves replaced wood fire, producing food replaced hunting, etc.. peak oil believers think that one day we will wake up and find hell has broken loose, that won't happen, oil will peak gradually and people will adapt, just like when its price rose to 150 other things emerged
kingofusers 3 years ago
Oil has been peaking gradually since 2005, and you are correct, people are adapting.
They are adapting by being priced out of markets. Hey, demand destruction, great! Now that all you people in Haiti and Bangladesh are no longer eating there's plenty to go around again! More biofuels please.
I'm interested to know what "other things emerged" earlier this year that replaced oil and why I did not hear about them.
postpeakman 3 years ago
You cant compare stone with oil.
geir44 2 years ago
right now it seems hard to believe this especially because of plummeting oil price due to economy forecast.
i dont't know how close we are to the tipping point but i understand it will happen and we don't seem to change the way we live untill it happens..We should start changing our life style.seriouslly.
johntaka 3 years ago 2
that is because govts are using local 3 month storage and are not spending on oil to save the economy, private cash is also not speculating on oil for the same reason
LastReplaySC 3 years ago
The world- or oil- are not going to end "soon".
What is going to end is our uncontrolled spending and unhealthy everyday habits.
More and more people are going to turn to public transportation, re-using objects, microgeneration of renewables and eating and growing food locally bescause there are clear benefits for these kinds of actions RIGHT NOW, not in some Mad Max fantasy that some people are waiting for.
Great piece, IOIOIOIOIOIO :)
tomlillynmu 3 years ago
Well well. Finite energy resources are not compatible with infinite exponential growth. Who would have thought.
As a kid I never thought that an energy investment banker would be my hero. Matthew Simmons for president!
slipcurve 3 years ago
I have been trying to get local politicians to talk to me about promoting telecommuting rather than spending on roads - for 2 years I have emailed them - and not 1 return call.
Hamish121212 3 years ago
secondary schools will become "virtual" in the next 5 years.. Elementary schools will be all that exist largely like they are now...so folks have free daycare.
centervilletn 3 years ago
2 and 1/2 acres of corn will make 1100 gallons of good old fashioned ethanol...at least you can do some personal driving and farming if you have some ground and know how to operate a still..im sure glad im hill people...we have a long history of making fuel...
centervilletn 3 years ago
What a joke. What could you grow without fertilizer - dependent on natural gas, petroleum...
VarinaFred 3 years ago
Are you saying folks couldn't grow anything without fertilizer? Or that the ethanol-producer above would need fertilizer for his corn (or sorghum or whatever)?
peakmoment 3 years ago
Thank-you for asking for clarification. My comment was rashly stated. I am saying that it is naive to think corn ethonol can help much with a energy resource shortage because the net energy use is negative. First of all there is a lack of rich compost that could be used for non-food production.
VarinaFred 3 years ago
This IS a problem... Could You folks do a vid on wood (producer) gas generators?
Carlstens 3 years ago
Can you say more about what you mean by wood-gas generators?
peakmoment 3 years ago
buy a few gallons extra for your tiller this spring...
centervilletn 3 years ago
thank God that i got nervous and planted a garden. we have just seen what happens when people run to the gas station and fill up...here in the southeast we are just not getting back to normal after the Texas hurricane
centervilletn 3 years ago
Thanks for posting this. Matt is pretty nervous here. That's time to worry.Nobody is secure if their neighbor is hungry. Fill your pantry, get your seeds for next season. Local food, local economies, local energy sources are the key to survival. We import about 700 billion dollars worth of fuel every year. Some coincidence, ain't it?
90% of the driving and burning of fuel we are doing is for things that don't need to be done. Close the malls and home improvement stores and turn off the lights.
auntiegrav 3 years ago 2
The world- or oil- are not going to end "soon".
What is going to end is our uncontrolled spending and unhealthy everyday habits.
More and more people are going to turn to public transportation, re-using objects, microgeneration of renewables and eating and growing food locally bescause there are clear benefits for these kinds of actions RIGHT NOW, not in some Mad Max fantasy that some people are waiting for.
IOIOIOIOIOIOIOIOIOIO 3 years ago 3
It's pretty funny about the deniers. I for one am not for spreading the word. The reason; As Matt said coulda, shoulda done. We are past solutions. Now like the financial system we need to brace for the shock. Like the Stock market the naysayers will get it after the event happens.
valhala56 3 years ago
Looking though some of the posts here it is depressing that some just don't get it. Oil is finite and while we will never run out the problem is production versus demand. Production is declining rapidly, as fields long ago discovered, deplete - Cantarell is a prime example. Several years from now there will be no exports from Mexico to the US. The US imports 71 % of its oil whereas it used to be the Saudi Arabia of the world. Demand worldwide is increasing. Ignore Simmons at your peril.
Turitea 3 years ago
New ways of drilling has opened up vast oil fields in the US. 8 times as much oil as Saudi Arabia and it's all right here in the Western United States. Google: Bakken oil formation. No dought we will need more refineries to deal with this glutten of oil to make it easier to ship.
flyguy75140 3 years ago
You listen to Hannity dont you? The Final report from the US Geological Survey stated that Bakken only had 3.0 to 4.3 billion barrels of oil. At current consumption, not even a years worth. Please do your own research if you do not believe me.
joeftw18 3 years ago
oil is finite that is true, but you are assuming that people won't innovate and adapt as they did for thousands of years, eventhough u have a clear example infront of you that when oil got more expensive demand was reduced and other energy sources got more into production and use,,, keep in mind that 90% or more of oil use is for transportation, so if people invent other means of transportation then problem is solved, and i think this is doable
kingofusers 3 years ago
If people filled there cars up then the next few days no one would be buying gas and the gasoline pool would fill back up. Another nobody getting a few people to listen to him. The sky is falling!
flyguy75140 3 years ago
Right now only about half of the refineries in the gulf are back online after the hurricanes. How long will it take for the gasoline pool to fill back up if emptied? Weeks? If truckers have no fuel, how long will food stay on the market shelves?
I don't tend to be an alarmist. But I share Matt's concern that no one in government or elsewhere is monitoring this vulnerability for our society.
peakmoment 3 years ago
Peak Oil is bullshit.
The only peak we got in oil, is about the price which is heading down to $50.
persepolis79 3 years ago
Price is not an indicator of resource decline in the ground; prices can fluctuate depending on availability of finished products and other things. For any FINITE resource we use, at some point supplies can't keep up with demand. That's what peak oil is about, and it's rapidly approaching.
peakmoment 3 years ago
thanks Matt - a clear and dispassionate statement of this impending crisis.
lindsaypeters 3 years ago 5
Fascinating. And more than a little scary. Thanks for putting this up.
Is there anywhere on teh intarwebs I can find a good covering of the ASPO 2008 conference?
Glargl 3 years ago
This guy is a salesman-a high pressure sales person-the worst sort of salesman. We have had other forms of energy for over thirty years but it has been the monopoly men that have kept solar energy and wind energy from being utilized-this guy is not a teacher-he is a high pressure salesman for the Rothschilds and the rockefellars of the world-they are the ones that dumb down our schools with high pressure salesmen!
kjack5 3 years ago
We have had alternative forms of energy for over 30 years but it is just more profitable for big companies and monopoly men to use the easiest resources first-and raise prices by using fear tactics rather than making solar energy and wind energy more readily available-I am more of a teacher than that salesman is!
kjack5 3 years ago
An investment person-or a high pressure saleman-not really a true educator-drain the system-high pressure sales-not a teacher a salesman!
kjack5 3 years ago
tick tock, tock tock, the us going down... :O
Dutchy183 3 years ago
Matt Simmons for President 2009!
UnderseaCaveman 3 years ago
I knew it was just a mater of time Janaia! It's going to get much worse before it ever gets better. They just keep printing money we don't have and it's worthless other countrys are starting to see that and are going to stop dealing and giving money to the USA! When that happens they will not be prepaired for the consiqinces of what the Iraq war and Nation building has done.
ZombieDesertDeities 3 years ago 2
hh0 HAS BEEN IN USE SINCE 1968 ... we dont even need oil
COUNTCARDULAR 3 years ago
very informative. never thought of the obvious consequences. nothing to panic but something to be kept in mind.
samann95014 3 years ago
Wow! Good thing I have a scooter that I can ride to work. They sell them for about 1400 in sporting goods stores. That thing gets 80mpg! Anyway, if I start with a full tank of gas in my car but siphon it to keep my scooter tank full, I can commute and pickup groceries for almost 3 months before I run out. Transportation is covered. Now all I have to worry about is whether there will be groceries at WinCo or a job for me to commute to.
vention4wh 3 years ago
lol thats good. I myself have 6 months of both food and water supply because it would take me a 3 day walk to a wallmart lol
Gees it takes me 30 minutes by car to get to the nearest gas station. I live in rural south carolina and I been looking into this whole crises, you figure you'd get some kind of warning from your gov't but we know thats not going to happen
KARStarla 3 years ago
I agree that Brazil's autos run on alcohol, and don't import a drop of oil. Don't believe the myths surrounding alcohol/ethanol fuel; they are not based in real science.
Why a developing country is far developed than USA is my question.India was a self-sustaining economy@1947 by Swadeshi-Movement of leaders at the year 1942.Each village was a factory/Industries with Agro-based self=dependence.Sometime thinking bank to solution is solution now like India-Solar,Horse,Ox-Bullock cart dependent.
JITSHUKLA 3 years ago
Outstanding!
Glad you guys are bringing this information to the public. It is critical to our country's well being.
OCForeclosures 3 years ago
Phonomenal. Matt Simmons is so accessible.
This is possibly the one and only video you need to show your doubting-Thomas loved ones. If THIS video doesn't give them a sobering chill of the sort that waked them up, then nothing will.
InnocentByproduct 3 years ago 2
David Blume's book "Alcohol Can Be a Gas"
is an awesome, complete 600 page book about using ethanol as a fuel for ANY vehicle. Brazil's autos run on alcohol, and don't import a drop of oil. Don't believe the myths surrounding alcohol/ethanol fuel; they are not based in real science. The process of using cellulose rich plants for fuel production will INCREASE FOOD production. Let me challenge ANY nay-sayers. Come on. I want to hear opposition....if Logical. Please get the book and learn something
billybbob18 3 years ago
Yet another excellent presentation from Peakmoment. Many thanks.
randallsellis 3 years ago