The Orc Tactical Team - Podcast 120: Equiping Ranked and File in 8th

[WarbossMchurty]

Hi Malorian can you help a fellow orc warboss and give me tactics on how to defeat the Empire in 8th? My orcs and goblins are getting chunksblown out of them by empire artillery and magic.And they are protecting there artillery so well with decent units so it is hard for me to get to them.

[NobleKorhedron]

Rules Q.: Because spears are no longer noted as requiring two hands, you automatically get an extra point of save for the shield, correct?

e.g.: Empire spearman - hand weapon, spear, light armour and shield = 5+ save and if using hand weapon - which admittedly defeats the point of the spear, but let's ignore that for the sake of mathammer - a 6+ parry save also?

Anyone disagree?

[clmosk]

Could you do a video specifically talking about black orcs and in depth tactics for them?

[WarbossMchurty]

@clmosk Yeah Id love a video about them also

[TheodorEriksson]

That being said, if you have another kill-adding option besides GW's, consider them. My 50 GW marauders get wiped out almost every game, and while they do a lot of damage back they die in droves and really quickly. Many a time have I wished that I modelled them with Flails instead, since striking first would decimate a lot of dangerous units before they kill me. I'm now building another unit, with flails, so I can have both. Because if a horde of Savage orcs charges my marauders...they're toast.

[TheodorEriksson]

I quite agree with this, if you want to kill a lot- go for the killy options. xD

[cjem1981]

WOC do have a lot of options. I struggle to find a better core trooper in any other book, and with the options they can hammer or anvil equally well. Yes they cost a bunch of points each, but even a unit of 15 will dent many units nicely.

You're right about meta. If you see a lot of high toughness armies then halberds don't always cut it!

[Seabo1776]

Xhw+Beast Banner Gors ftw!!

[gloryfan1]

awesome dude, thanks so much

[MrTsukefox]

No opinions on spears-?

[MrMalorian]

@MrTsukefox Spears are a weak offensive option, and usually those with the option are defensive units that should take shields or nothing instead. (Night goblins are an exception.)

[daser991]

@MrTsukefox personally i like spears in some units were its the only way to add attack but if theres any other way its usually better eg savage orcs can have additional hand weapon or spear for 1pt. But with ranks being taken away u loss the extra attack with spear where as the front rank needs to stay with +1 attack.