Well what about the standard grip and slicing, everyone seems to think that if you hold the knife in a standard grip you can only poke with it? try a full power slice as if it was a sword, that happens to!
Well I am a trained well rounded knife fighter and what I can say is: Whats shown here has a concept. But what I don´t like is the thing about holding a knife. The fact of speed isn´t mentioned here. With a knife upwards I maybe cant stab directly (why not? Don´t think he wouldbe able to block a stab like that), but I am much faster than blade downwards. Especially with blade upwards stabs can be mixed with all non-weapon techniques, which makes it more difficult to react well.
@DerSpartaner why dont you learn from someone who is experienced in the street instead of learning from a bunch of theorists that think it works but in reality they have no idea wht there saying. they are like virgins trying to convince you that they know about sex because they watch porn and all that. im experienced in the street so i can tell you that when someone comes at you with a knife they will attack you full speed! you wont have time to use your little techinque no matter how fast you r
Uhhm, maybe my english was too bad. But that was what I was trying to explain:
I think the fact of full speed was not shown here. Knife Attackers always go with full force and full speed.
And I don´t learn by theorists, I learn by practicing every day. I just wanted to say, that I don´t think whats shown here would work on the street. I made the experience, that I just can Block/Hit simultane and run. (Like Bursting in Krav Maga, but you must be very skillfull to do so)
@DragonZord90 THANK YOU! Finaly someone who has common sense. Where are you gonna run if you are cornered? Nowhere! As Bear Grylls Said: Hope For The Best, Prepare For The Worst!
If you try this against an attacker with a knife your gonna die plain and simple. When it comes to knife fighting, never has a subject been taught by so many that know so little. Be careful who you choose to listen to, the life you lose may be your own.
there is no way you can pull off those moves against a dude with a knife, if a dude with a knife wanna hurt you.. he will, and I promise you he'll stab you in your arms until you can't use em anymore, if you meat a guy with a knife threating you, just run and scream.. is it gay ? I'm rather a pussy then having myself killed for I thought I could actually just block and strike a dude with a knife.. run lads, run
a hard kick to the knee cap will completely incapacitate the attacker if u manage to hyper extend the joint. Then when he is down kick the knife out his hand. I'm no expert but that is what i would do. I mean if u try and kick them in the balls or the solar plexis its surely gona be easier for him to slash ur leg.
a hard kick to the knee cap will completely incapacitate the attacker if u manage to hyper extend the joint. Then when he is down kick the knife out his hand
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i do a mix of Tai Chi Pa-Qua and Xing-Yi i know better knife defence a red sash taught me this first the knife opponent is performing a over arm slashing move keep your back straight and go for the knee from an angle this kick is called knee level side kick also the best counter block the knife at the same time smash his bicep with a fist then smash the tricep with your forearm this disables the opponent and finishes the situation
Can't stop laugning and at the same time getting scared people will listen to this, it's actually pretty scary shit dudes.
"With the other type of grip, it's very limited, they can poke straight in, they could slide up.. but there's not too much power, you'll get very litte....*awkward silence after realization of not making any sense at all*... of a cut"
He'd get surprised of how many ways i can slice my meat at home, even in the "noob" grip! but i can only cut a decimeter with the weak poke.
All of this video is BS. The knife grip shit, the "small cuts", the illusion of being able to "take a few hits". A bullet is just a small hole dude.
Knives make you FUCKING BLEED.
It's like a game of tag, with an invisible psychopath chasing you. You just have to dodge the shit out of something you can't really see and effectively in ONE move disable him WITHOUT getting tagged because then you DIE.
Sure if someones stupid enough to hold the knife still in front of you, it makes things easier.
@hazzaroot my response to your comment is that kungfu cannot be learned in a few weeks it takes time and people don't often appreciate the fundamentals nor mindset you have to have agains't someone who is proficient with a knife..what this video teaches is the mindset which is very important..there are no quick results in a superior martial art like this..you will not learn this in jeetkundo..although this sounds boring i myself appreciate the importance of what he is teaching,
Although ,he backs up what he says with reason and he make a lot of sense for the most part.The subject of knife defence is huge and can't be cover in one short video.
However ,one only needs to look at all the cold steel demos to realise what a knife slash can do to an arm
Truth is the best stance agaist knife is a stance of no stance and keep your arms down or at least against your stomach
If the opponent has a knife in the underhand grip, I'd keep distance. Kick the knees and immediately take distance again. Moving in is a bad idea because often the attacks are too fast and too strange to see through.
yes! there is no power in a thumb to hilt grip! Soooo... That being said, all butchers, samurai, fencers, sabor fighters.... are wrong. Also learned that a ape style pinky to hilt grip means>>>>> your more skilled! who knew?!?!
this is absolutely worthless. You should never face someone with a knife. Do you know how fast someone can come at you with a knife. And in most cases its going to be unexpected or from behind, and all they have to do is touch you with it. Steel > Skin
True, but sometimes you don't have a choice. And it's possible to get out of a knife attack with just a few cuts on your arms and hands. But then the attacker mustn't have been very skilled...
excellent---my first lesson was about palms away from knife--but i think now that keeping hands open towards the knife allows for more mobility and accuracy to "trap"-- of course gaining accuracy- increases vulnerability--its personal preference i suppose.
im seventeen and very intersted in blades. my father got me my first knife at nine. does anyone know any good training sources or have any tips. im considering a teacher but i dont really have the time or resources. thank you.
First off all; You should never face someone with a knife. Just run.
Second; When somebody tries to stab you, you should attack and defend at the same time. This ''defense'' in the video is only a basic technique and it will fail in real life. In real life one must defend and attack at the same time and at an even further level one can use an attack as a defense... But NEVER defend and attack after. That's only a waste of time.
@Anandfulness First, 99.999% of knife defence "Stuff" will get you killed (this especially). Second, try an HONEST experiment. Stand 10 feet from a friend with a rubber knife. The instructions to the knife guy is: GET HIM! That is all, that is it. He wants to hurt you (a "real" attitude). Now, from 10 feet, TRY to run away. If the guy wants to get you, you have no chance. Infact, by the time you turned around, you would be dead, IF HE WANTS TO HURT YOU!
@wpgtaiji You are incorrect on the running. It would be useless to run away when you are in a closed environment but in a park or on the street it is very possible to run away if you are a fast runner and know the environment.
It's better to train on technniques that work (techniques that attack and defend at the same time) and have a 1% chance of surviving than to see it as 'impossible' and just give up the notion. It's not impossible, it's just not very likely that it will work..
@Anandfulness That was a quick real life experiment! No i am not incorrect. At 10 feet, which is generous in a "real" situation, by the time you turn, you would have a knife in your back, if it is a REAL threat! You are very young in your knowledge on self defence, from what you put up. While attack/defend at same time is a nice idea, I wonder about your source. I first thought we shared a common style, but I doubt it now. Leave technique in the trash.
@wpgtaiji My source is my experience. There are techniques that work and techniques that don't. There is no discussion in this, it's just a fact. I don't know at what distance you can run or can't, I don't think it is correct to put a distance on it. I think it depends whether you see your opponent getting out his knife or not and his skill and conditioning. A skilled knife-fighter will only pull out his knife when he's right next to you and he will stab you in the back, not in front.
@Anandfulness THere is a discussion when you talk about that which you dont know. Do the experiment, then tell me. The "safe" distance, btw, is 25 feet (done by a few hundred people over decades). Telling someone to RUN is akin to knifing them yourself.
@wpgtaiji Yes, I don't really care to argue what is best or what is not. For me, attacking has alway been the best defense in simulated knife attacks (rubber knife, magic marker, etc). If someone is actually trying to kill you, you do not want him to remain doing so without him receiving a great deal of damage himself.
I have made a big playlist consisting of 200 videos of real violence if you wish to study these types of situations further. If you're interested you can view it on my page.
@Anandfulness Dude, i NEVER said that defending yourself was wrong! I said that telling someone to RUN was NOT SMART! Read what I wrote again (all of it) and you will see that I never said that defending yourself was stupid. Infact, the reason I said that I thought we shared a similar teacher/style is because we have the SAME idea about defence! It is YOU who read something that I wasn't saying! I was ONLY talking about your RUN advice, nothing else! Please learn to read what is wrote.
@wpgtaiji But really, it's all good advice if you consider the context. You can't say ''never run'' or ''never attack''. In some situations it's better to run, in others it's better to attack. If you have a big and slow guy coming at you, it's better to run since he won't be able to chase you. If you have a smaller, faster guy coming at you, it's better to defend yourself or you're going to get stabbed in the back.
Watch my playlist, there are tons of situations where running was helpful.
"Power" isn't a concern with knives against bare flesh and ordinary clothing; that's why they're dangerous. Don't tell people they won't get seriously cut by a knife held in an orthodox grip.
@Edwinteror not stupid at all --two even better defense than yours-- 1. never get into the situation in the first place
2. reread 1! but what if your in a crowd?..or cannot make an escape? or there are three of his buddies blocking escape routes? I agree- i would run too if possible--but personally i like to be prepared to survive should it be necessary.
@Edwinteror if the enemy is stronger then You. you would keep running and when You can't run anymore, You will stop and then get fucked up... Bad tactic dude
@Edwinteror Sometimes you're just cornered or already have an injury from fighting on your leg what prevents you from running. So always have a backup plan mate. Eventho i hope you never have to be in such a situation, go in peace
running is the best thing you can do! No matter what anyone else says! The attacker won't stop his actions so that you can "kung fu" him! Just run like hell. Being a hero won't stop you from bleeding to death!
well if running was so very much possible then there was no need of any kung-fu or martial art dear. and ofcourse there would never have been a fight . the attcker would chase and the victim would run. wow! dont mind. :)
but it is easier to be more powerful that way, most people dont get attacked by silat and kali knife fighters. so maybe skill is the wrong term but call it "street thug damge potential" or whatever but the more powerful way to hold the knife can do more damage faster, especially if it is a unprepared target instead of a ready and armed world champion knife fighter in unparalleled fitness and shape as many in here like to think about in their examples in how this and that fails.
I practice Silat Panglipur, and Silat Pusako Harimau, and in those silat styles you hold the weapon like they show in the vid, so I don't know how it is with other styles, but it is really better to hold it not in the basic way!
how can this guy show such a dangerous and useless defence, that stuff definitly doesn`t work, and it is dangerous teach that to people. with this techniques you get be stapped immediatly in a real knife fight. please don`t do that!!!!!!
If someone shows up in a reverse grip like that, Im going to tear them up all day long simply because they do not have the same range as I would. aaaah... frustrating these videos...
um kenpo priceples ! look at them inside the circle dude plus you leave ur self box open posionu want liner and side angle approch ! no offense you KNEES ARE OPNE !
Nice video, but I have to disagree with the comment about "skilled" knife users hold the blade in reverse grip. That is not true at all! That's a myth that has been around a while but has no truth to it at all.
Totally agree. I am by no means a skilled knife fighter, but you generate more speed and reach with your slashes in the point out position. Plus your stabbing at the ribs and guts would be FAR more devastating than slashes(dependant upon knife size).
Um WholsShogun, that actually is true about skilled knife fighters. The military teaches you to hold your K-Bar that way because you generate more power from you larger muscle groups, like your biceps and pectorals. As opposed to holding it like a shank where you use smaller muscle groups, like the ones in your wrist and forearm. But this would only happen if you were being attacked by a Marine (which is pretty unlikely) the average thug is going to hold it like a shank.
Maybe the military guys train that way, but I dont think of them as "skilled" knife fighters. They train a short time and only a small range of skillsets. Look at the Kali, Eskrima or AMOK! guys for an example. Yes its true that it generates more power in some of ways. But it also strongly limits Ur options in a knife fight. If U, God forbid, get attacked by someone skilled with a knife U will not see the blade. If U do se the blade, it will be to late! =)
In my experience it limits the ranged attacks on example knife vs knife. I've done knife vs knife sparring and tried different ways of holding. But then again U gain the use of the blade to pull and "grab" the other guys arm in reverse. =) My point was simply that its a martial arts myth that "skilled knife fighters" ALWAYS hold it in reverse and that U can tell he is skilled by his way of holding the blade.
That was actually really helpful, despite what some other people are saying. It wasn't flashy and unrealistic, like some Krav Maga video's I've seen. You need to crawl before you can walk, you know. I though this was really helpful for learning the basics and not getting stabbed (which is kinda the point).
I dont think Krav gets a good name. The flashy stuff in Krav gets alot of hype, but having taken a few classes it is FAR more basic and realistic than you see. I think a good representation of Krav is the Fight Quest show from the history channel. The spar sequences that they show are brutal and realistic. Multiple guys and lots of punching and very little control. I feel like my statement is not that clear so let me know if you understand what I am getting at.
@HighWay93, no you didn't. Hold knife like on the vid and you will get caught. Knife holding hand should never be exposed and kept tight to the body. If you hold the knife with right hand, then you should be showing left side with left hand pushing opponent, grabing, holding - in other words distracting. Then close in and make multiple quick attacks stabbing and cutting. But do it like on the vid and your knife hand is too exposed asking to be grabbed.
@HighWay93 There is no best way... Ice pick hold gives you power at the expense of distance. Standard hold gives you distance at the expense of power. Being able to switch, depending on situation is perhaps best.
You couldnt be more wrong. Do you even know how bad a cut is going to be? Look it up they have videos on it here on you tube. Just a little cut and it gona slash up your arm like it was made of paper! I have been cut by a knife and have the scars to prove it, the wound gets BIG, blood will come out like from a fucking RIVER! Do you really think you will be able to stand there and defend yourself after that? Then my friend you are as stupid as a dog! Dont plan to be cut, try not to get cut!
Get you self in the mind that you are going to get cut? So basically what you are saying is that you are training to get hurt, to die? Defending yourself from harm and get away with your health and life in behold should always be your goal! And the stance, when exactly do you think you has time to use that? And if you do he will know you are prepped to defend yourself and you have lost the surprise element, a very important tool! This is bad, and I am not the only one to think that!
@80KungFu You've obviously never seen a real life knife-fight with somebody who knows how to use one...
You WILL get cut in a real knife fight. What he's saying is get yourself mentally prepared for that to happen so when it does happen you won't freak out or freeze up.
Watch your tongue! I have been in a real knife situation and also seen two other knives attacks. Real ones not faced ones! I was talking about real self-defense, NOT fighting! Fighting is never real self-defense; real self defence-you defend and then you get the fuck out of there! Thats how a real situation lock like, not standing against each other in some fancy knife combat stance and trying to fight the guy! Never fight someone with a knife!
Seriously mate.. you sound like a gd guy but if this is what your style of Kung Fu teach for their knife training then it is very poor.....or is this one of your techniques??
I had a knife pulled on me once when i was being mugged, and he didn't cut me, i just said, "I've got nothing valuable," and he ran away, so my defense is basic reasoning first =P
well, he didn't full on believe me considering he padded my pant pockets quickly before he took off, so yeah, pray he doesn't shank you first and try to get out into the open for help.
I have no problem with expecting to get cut. Realizing you won't become cyborg jesus and avoid anything, no matter how bad your odds are, isn't the same as having the goal of those things happening. My problem is that kung fu isn't practical for self defense.
I have 30 plus years of Kung Fu practice and I have used it for self-defense and taking suspects into custody and it worked just fine for me. On what basis do you conclude that Kung Fu is not good for self-defense?
even the martial art expert they give a bad comment.
they keep giving a negative feedback to those martial art expert,. please stop giving a negative feednback!maybe you guys are not a martial artist.. you cant identified which one is weak and expert.
Johnny, well durr lol My brothers know a guy called Mogzy who could disarm someone with a knife quicker than they can pull it out of their pocket. whats the point carrying one if your never gonna use it,, or know how to? but i agree with ya bout the escrima and filipino, different techniques for different situations lol
There are no words that can describe how bad this guy is on knife defence. And this is not only my opinion; take a look at the blogs down below, everyone think this is bad! you should think that you are going to get cut, ohh ok, I see, so I should train with the goal to get cut. Why not bring your own knife then you can cut yourself and dont have to wait for the other guy to slice you up.
yep if you get held up with a knife or gun give the person what he wants and run away or just run away. you far less likely to get shot while running in a zig zag and def less likely to get stabbed... if you are cornered and it is you only choice cause you KNOW they are going ot kill you .. then self defense.
yeah?what if your cornered?sometimes you cant run!.Id say find a class in escrima and the filipino arts those guys know about blades,best knife fighters Ive ever seen,these chavs carrying knifes dont know crap but they are still dangerous blunt knives too they do more damage.The beauty of filipino techniques is it can be applied to a newspaper,pen or anything you might legaly carry,A well trianed filipino guy with a pen would be deadlier than a chav with a knife anyday
Never take knife defense advice from someone who knows so little about knives and their use! There is more power, dexterity, reach and speed with the blade held upward in the hand. Basic knife awareness is good but be aware that a knife held with the blade upward is far more dangerous! Though of course a knife held downward is dangerous as well.
no knife wielding fool is going to slow motion attack you from a stupid angle, they are going to jump forward and grab you while sticking a hole in you. they arent going to stand far away and slice in a huge angle from the side.
dont like it, there is an old guy greying, i think on this chennel that has a much better explanation, simpler and far more effective, i think this guy may get you killed, then again - each to their own.
johnx951, you obviously have no idea what you are talking about, or know any of the CKM techniques! All you know is a bunch of made-up rumors, and hearsay that was made up by the Krav Maga higher ups because CKM is taking so much business away from Krav Maga. The techniques do in fact work, are very effective, simple and straight-forward. More so than the flawed techniques of "traditional" Krav Maga techniques wich I have in fact studied and learned also.
PLEASE, don't ever use these techniques if somebody seriously attacks you with a knife, or use krav maga techniques either, you will most likely get killed!!! Look up knife tapping, kali knife fighting, or COMMANDO KRAV MAGA (not krav maga, there is a huge difference in the techniques). A knife attack is a VERY dangerous situation to be in.
I dont want be mean to you but seriously, your knife defence is so bad that I am afraid that some one will die trying to follow what you teach! Dont plan that you are going to get cut, if you do that you are basically planning to die. Your goal should be to defend and escape with your health. And if he attack you in the way you show, you are not going to get a very little cut, it takes very little, even for a small blade to cut a nasty wound. Dont learn this crap!
No one attacking you with a knife will attack you in the ways illustrated and grip has nothing to do with skill. Zero. You get cut with a slice to the arms or legs you have about 2 minutes tops before you pass out from blood loss and possible shock. You also aren't grabbing anything at that point since blood is like baby oil.
that wasnt suposed to simulate a ninja knife assailant lol it was supposed to be a knife fight or someone takin a knife out during a fight. i like this video cuz i wuld never have known how to properly stand
Hmm.. Agreed until part on "aware about the attackers grip"...
In reality if the guy moves to stab you - you will have problems spotting a knife.. So I'd stop talking about grips and deal with any punch or kick as a knife attack. Reasons: 1) Darkness 2) multiple attackers (unable to see who has the weapon) 3) small blade 4) Hidden blade. 80% of those stabbed did not know until after the incident.
He should use a rubber knife for safety reasons, not a real knife. You have no use of standing in some special knife defence stance. If someone really wants to kill you with a knife they are not going to let you see the knife before it is too late. And even if they did, standing like that show the opponent that you are going to try to defend your self and he will sharpen his attack.
I know a person, father of 2, responsible and calm, who suffered an attack by two guys. One had a knife (small, not sure exactly what) and the other a machete. So please understand better what is possible to happen...
So take out your wallet, and give it to them. They won't stab you if you don't say or do something stupid. Get skilled with your communication, and you'll avoid these situations.
Sometimes if they're afraid of getting caught.. They will slice you no matter what.. You will have to see his body language in order to know when to give it up.. Or to save your life. :)
about point 2 - Movement is implied. how you stand is important because it ALLOWS you to move when you need too, and maximizes your defense against more lethal strikes.
about the other points, i think he was probably right, but what are your sources?
I train in Praying Mantis ... you are right when u say get control of the knife, however depending on the skill of the other fighter u may not beable to do so.I personally didnt care for this video
flaming does not invalidate their point. knife vs. hands - i would not want to be in that situation. he just does not want people going into a fight without expecting to get hurt, because that increases the odds you will go into shock / lose control when you are.
If you really want to take someone on who's got a weapon, you wouldn't be sitting at home all day watching Youtube videos on the subject and expecting to be a master at it.
You would learn from a professional who has had decades of experience, by going to the various martial arts schools located pretty much anywhere, in which case, you would not need this shitty video.
By making this, they are purely trying to show us all how great they are, and its fucking pointless.
wow, this is horrible. i doubt you would want to punch some one once you block the knife attack. you would want to gain control over the knife. common sense right?
actually this video is wrong the grip of the knife doesnt mean that the person is more skilled with a knife. Pakal grip (reverse grip) with a knife is not more powerful it is meant to control the person up close not really for slashing. Sak Sak (Regular) grip is more powerful by using gravity on the downward angles causing much more damage to a person. Both grips are dangerous non the less.
my theory on knife defence is that no ones gonna stand in a knife fighting stance and try and stab you, there either gonna come up behind you sneakingly, stab you and run off, or stab you while your washing your hands in a nightclub toilet(just 2 examples)
the best defence is to stay away from places where knife attacks are likely ie alleyways, overcrowded pubs/nightclubs anywhere too much alcohol or drugs are consumed.
lastly dont hang around with dickheads, or self confessed hardmen.
Ahhh, the "Flashers vs Slashers" theory.. I agree, the "Flashers" want something and use the knife to get what they want. "Flashers" aren't out to use the knife untill after they get what they, or in some case, not get what they want.
"Slashers" hide the knife until they cut/stab because their objective is to make you bleed, and a surprise attack is just the way to do that..
Basically, if someone wants to cut or stab you, they will. They will conceal the knife and reveal it mid stab/slash. If someone wants something besides blood, they will pull the knife out and threaten you.
I'm trying to put attackers armed with knives into generic categories.
run away might be the best defence that I think
so, don't trust this
laguana15279 3 hours ago
If you want to learn knife defence?learn from the best in the world:kali,eskri
2fresh38 1 month ago 2
REALITY IS DIFFERENT.NO BODY WILL ATACK SO SLOW LIKE HERE SHOWING.
IF YOU USE YOUR ARMS WILL RESULT VERY HURT EVEN IF YOU ARE MARTIAL ART
FIGHTER.
Oscar8298 1 month ago
Im getting my gun
goninghome 6 months ago
rock lee stance
Thesalmoncrew 6 months ago
White guy teaching "kung fu self defense" from a knife attack?
I'm Asian and even I know to just run away from this situation.
tommyv331992 6 months ago
This guy has no clue. Reverse grip = skillful knife fighter? Seriously?
Colimarche 6 months ago
@Colimarche thats so true, if you dont use a reverse grip your blade dont have much power ?
a blade dont need big power to cut your flesh, this "teacher" should go to jail he send his students into big trouble,including death !!!
sharedwisdom187 6 months ago
not really relevant comment but he looks like the guy in fast and furious
pcsiva 6 months ago
Well what about the standard grip and slicing, everyone seems to think that if you hold the knife in a standard grip you can only poke with it? try a full power slice as if it was a sword, that happens to!
dcsoftware 7 months ago
Well I am a trained well rounded knife fighter and what I can say is: Whats shown here has a concept. But what I don´t like is the thing about holding a knife. The fact of speed isn´t mentioned here. With a knife upwards I maybe cant stab directly (why not? Don´t think he wouldbe able to block a stab like that), but I am much faster than blade downwards. Especially with blade upwards stabs can be mixed with all non-weapon techniques, which makes it more difficult to react well.
DerSpartaner 7 months ago
@DerSpartaner why dont you learn from someone who is experienced in the street instead of learning from a bunch of theorists that think it works but in reality they have no idea wht there saying. they are like virgins trying to convince you that they know about sex because they watch porn and all that. im experienced in the street so i can tell you that when someone comes at you with a knife they will attack you full speed! you wont have time to use your little techinque no matter how fast you r
jonboy1028 6 months ago
@jonboy1028
Uhhm, maybe my english was too bad. But that was what I was trying to explain:
I think the fact of full speed was not shown here. Knife Attackers always go with full force and full speed.
And I don´t learn by theorists, I learn by practicing every day. I just wanted to say, that I don´t think whats shown here would work on the street. I made the experience, that I just can Block/Hit simultane and run. (Like Bursting in Krav Maga, but you must be very skillfull to do so)
DerSpartaner 6 months ago
@DerSpartaner unless they are really slow or suck at using a knife or both.
jonboy1028 6 months ago
@jonboy1028
I was talking like I would be an attacker, not the defender ^^.
DerSpartaner 6 months ago
@DerSpartaner oh ok
jonboy1028 6 months ago
Really bad. This teacher would end up dead.
onemindonespirit 7 months ago
@DragonZord90 THANK YOU! Finaly someone who has common sense. Where are you gonna run if you are cornered? Nowhere! As Bear Grylls Said: Hope For The Best, Prepare For The Worst!
KaratenKit 8 months ago
If you try this against an attacker with a knife your gonna die plain and simple. When it comes to knife fighting, never has a subject been taught by so many that know so little. Be careful who you choose to listen to, the life you lose may be your own.
lowkickr1 11 months ago
there is no way you can pull off those moves against a dude with a knife, if a dude with a knife wanna hurt you.. he will, and I promise you he'll stab you in your arms until you can't use em anymore, if you meat a guy with a knife threating you, just run and scream.. is it gay ? I'm rather a pussy then having myself killed for I thought I could actually just block and strike a dude with a knife.. run lads, run
ButcherAkatsuki 11 months ago
a hard kick to the knee cap will completely incapacitate the attacker if u manage to hyper extend the joint. Then when he is down kick the knife out his hand. I'm no expert but that is what i would do. I mean if u try and kick them in the balls or the solar plexis its surely gona be easier for him to slash ur leg.
jammylad393 11 months ago
a hard kick to the knee cap will completely incapacitate the attacker if u manage to hyper extend the joint. Then when he is down kick the knife out his hand
jammylad393 11 months ago
Anybody who really wants to defend him/herself from a knife attack, please watch Krav Maga videos, and not this fake bullshit!
FiamskManiacBrainiac 11 months ago
From this vid i learned Sweet FA!
MrSilverfox333 1 year ago
good points, Thanks
Stringyheads 1 year ago
this is my brothers account so dont comment here for my sake
i do a mix of Tai Chi Pa-Qua and Xing-Yi i know better knife defence a red sash taught me this first the knife opponent is performing a over arm slashing move keep your back straight and go for the knee from an angle this kick is called knee level side kick also the best counter block the knife at the same time smash his bicep with a fist then smash the tricep with your forearm this disables the opponent and finishes the situation
truebeliever786 1 year ago
@truebeliever786 riiiiiiight....
ct7320 1 year ago
I would like to see someone defend against my ballistic knife.
Pivotist 1 year ago
@Pivotist nerd
Carljoakimmm 1 year ago
Can't stop laugning and at the same time getting scared people will listen to this, it's actually pretty scary shit dudes.
"With the other type of grip, it's very limited, they can poke straight in, they could slide up.. but there's not too much power, you'll get very litte....*awkward silence after realization of not making any sense at all*... of a cut"
He'd get surprised of how many ways i can slice my meat at home, even in the "noob" grip! but i can only cut a decimeter with the weak poke.
mickenorlen 1 year ago
All of this video is BS. The knife grip shit, the "small cuts", the illusion of being able to "take a few hits". A bullet is just a small hole dude.
Knives make you FUCKING BLEED.
It's like a game of tag, with an invisible psychopath chasing you. You just have to dodge the shit out of something you can't really see and effectively in ONE move disable him WITHOUT getting tagged because then you DIE.
Sure if someones stupid enough to hold the knife still in front of you, it makes things easier.
mickenorlen 1 year ago
gun>knife
XX847 1 year ago
I dont like to knock vids but this showed nothing, only how to get hurt with a knife
hazzaroot 1 year ago 9
@hazzaroot my response to your comment is that kungfu cannot be learned in a few weeks it takes time and people don't often appreciate the fundamentals nor mindset you have to have agains't someone who is proficient with a knife..what this video teaches is the mindset which is very important..there are no quick results in a superior martial art like this..you will not learn this in jeetkundo..although this sounds boring i myself appreciate the importance of what he is teaching,
DarkLord0fHell 2 months ago
If you want to play with knives then you should join the circus!
The man in the red shirt on is short. He should have slept more when he was young. Forget knives children!
Go to bed when your parents tell you or you could end up like this man in the video.
shanexu3 1 year ago
most people who get stabbed dont even see the knife until its too late
dragonfitter 1 year ago
How am I supposed to see how whit all that text!!???
Cobolt3 1 year ago
watch Aikido....it's better for self difence... trust me
ziopeperino 1 year ago
oh god no that it not the best way to stand.
Although ,he backs up what he says with reason and he make a lot of sense for the most part.The subject of knife defence is huge and can't be cover in one short video.
However ,one only needs to look at all the cold steel demos to realise what a knife slash can do to an arm
Truth is the best stance agaist knife is a stance of no stance and keep your arms down or at least against your stomach
NewZealfighter 1 year ago
If the opponent has a knife in the underhand grip, I'd keep distance. Kick the knees and immediately take distance again. Moving in is a bad idea because often the attacks are too fast and too strange to see through.
lordtains 1 year ago
Look at the guy on the right trying to act tough n' mean over there. LOL!!!!!!
JohnTheWolfBoy 1 year ago
expertvillage is the worst shit on the internet...
MrMijuskovic 1 year ago
Although this is good advice, Fuck it, just run :P
gabeft95 1 year ago
yes! there is no power in a thumb to hilt grip! Soooo... That being said, all butchers, samurai, fencers, sabor fighters.... are wrong. Also learned that a ape style pinky to hilt grip means>>>>> your more skilled! who knew?!?!
FusBoxe 1 year ago
what kind of knife is this? is it a throwing knife ?
malleymyster 1 year ago
@malleymyster looks to be one...
gabriellopesmonteiro 1 year ago
this is absolutely worthless. You should never face someone with a knife. Do you know how fast someone can come at you with a knife. And in most cases its going to be unexpected or from behind, and all they have to do is touch you with it. Steel > Skin
BroyhillVideo 1 year ago
True, but sometimes you don't have a choice. And it's possible to get out of a knife attack with just a few cuts on your arms and hands. But then the attacker mustn't have been very skilled...
lordtains 1 year ago
excellent---my first lesson was about palms away from knife--but i think now that keeping hands open towards the knife allows for more mobility and accuracy to "trap"-- of course gaining accuracy- increases vulnerability--its personal preference i suppose.
porpoisefathom 1 year ago
@porpoisefathom
well try out all your thoeries with a dull Aluminium Training knife
NewZealfighter 1 year ago
im seventeen and very intersted in blades. my father got me my first knife at nine. does anyone know any good training sources or have any tips. im considering a teacher but i dont really have the time or resources. thank you.
LesediLoFi 1 year ago
KOOL BUT NOT GOOD
MANUELOF10 1 year ago
First off all; You should never face someone with a knife. Just run.
Second; When somebody tries to stab you, you should attack and defend at the same time. This ''defense'' in the video is only a basic technique and it will fail in real life. In real life one must defend and attack at the same time and at an even further level one can use an attack as a defense... But NEVER defend and attack after. That's only a waste of time.
Anandfulness 1 year ago
@Anandfulness First, 99.999% of knife defence "Stuff" will get you killed (this especially). Second, try an HONEST experiment. Stand 10 feet from a friend with a rubber knife. The instructions to the knife guy is: GET HIM! That is all, that is it. He wants to hurt you (a "real" attitude). Now, from 10 feet, TRY to run away. If the guy wants to get you, you have no chance. Infact, by the time you turned around, you would be dead, IF HE WANTS TO HURT YOU!
wpgtaiji 7 months ago
@wpgtaiji You are incorrect on the running. It would be useless to run away when you are in a closed environment but in a park or on the street it is very possible to run away if you are a fast runner and know the environment.
It's better to train on technniques that work (techniques that attack and defend at the same time) and have a 1% chance of surviving than to see it as 'impossible' and just give up the notion. It's not impossible, it's just not very likely that it will work..
Anandfulness 7 months ago
@Anandfulness That was a quick real life experiment! No i am not incorrect. At 10 feet, which is generous in a "real" situation, by the time you turn, you would have a knife in your back, if it is a REAL threat! You are very young in your knowledge on self defence, from what you put up. While attack/defend at same time is a nice idea, I wonder about your source. I first thought we shared a common style, but I doubt it now. Leave technique in the trash.
wpgtaiji 7 months ago
@wpgtaiji My source is my experience. There are techniques that work and techniques that don't. There is no discussion in this, it's just a fact. I don't know at what distance you can run or can't, I don't think it is correct to put a distance on it. I think it depends whether you see your opponent getting out his knife or not and his skill and conditioning. A skilled knife-fighter will only pull out his knife when he's right next to you and he will stab you in the back, not in front.
Anandfulness 7 months ago
@Anandfulness THere is a discussion when you talk about that which you dont know. Do the experiment, then tell me. The "safe" distance, btw, is 25 feet (done by a few hundred people over decades). Telling someone to RUN is akin to knifing them yourself.
wpgtaiji 7 months ago
@wpgtaiji Yes, I don't really care to argue what is best or what is not. For me, attacking has alway been the best defense in simulated knife attacks (rubber knife, magic marker, etc). If someone is actually trying to kill you, you do not want him to remain doing so without him receiving a great deal of damage himself.
I have made a big playlist consisting of 200 videos of real violence if you wish to study these types of situations further. If you're interested you can view it on my page.
Anandfulness 7 months ago
@Anandfulness Dude, i NEVER said that defending yourself was wrong! I said that telling someone to RUN was NOT SMART! Read what I wrote again (all of it) and you will see that I never said that defending yourself was stupid. Infact, the reason I said that I thought we shared a similar teacher/style is because we have the SAME idea about defence! It is YOU who read something that I wasn't saying! I was ONLY talking about your RUN advice, nothing else! Please learn to read what is wrote.
wpgtaiji 7 months ago
@wpgtaiji But really, it's all good advice if you consider the context. You can't say ''never run'' or ''never attack''. In some situations it's better to run, in others it's better to attack. If you have a big and slow guy coming at you, it's better to run since he won't be able to chase you. If you have a smaller, faster guy coming at you, it's better to defend yourself or you're going to get stabbed in the back.
Watch my playlist, there are tons of situations where running was helpful.
Anandfulness 7 months ago
I think he meant to say 'arteries' not veins.
There's an important difference.
Ignore Ignore Ignore
osummuso 1 year ago
"Power" isn't a concern with knives against bare flesh and ordinary clothing; that's why they're dangerous. Don't tell people they won't get seriously cut by a knife held in an orthodox grip.
wurblewurble 1 year ago
I didnt know Vin Diesel knew kung fu!?
ataraxic89 1 year ago
Nice. A must learn basic knowledge in any knife defense. 5 stars!
mrlonerme 1 year ago
It might be stupid but i would just run!!
Edwinteror 1 year ago 32
@Edwinteror No shame in that
kaindrg 1 year ago
@Edwinteror but they could run faster
JJessicaJJ7 1 year ago
@Edwinteror not stupid at all --two even better defense than yours-- 1. never get into the situation in the first place
2. reread 1! but what if your in a crowd?..or cannot make an escape? or there are three of his buddies blocking escape routes? I agree- i would run too if possible--but personally i like to be prepared to survive should it be necessary.
porpoisefathom 1 year ago
@Edwinteror if the enemy is stronger then You. you would keep running and when You can't run anymore, You will stop and then get fucked up... Bad tactic dude
MakANBU 1 year ago
@MakANBU That's why I said it might be stupid lawl.
Edwinteror 1 year ago
@Edwinteror: smartest thing to do hahaha
shhhiiieeet 1 year ago
@Edwinteror Sometimes you're just cornered or already have an injury from fighting on your leg what prevents you from running. So always have a backup plan mate. Eventho i hope you never have to be in such a situation, go in peace
KaratenKit 1 year ago
@Edwinteror
running is the best thing you can do! No matter what anyone else says! The attacker won't stop his actions so that you can "kung fu" him! Just run like hell. Being a hero won't stop you from bleeding to death!
sChw3rL3sb4r 1 year ago
@Edwinteror
well if running was so very much possible then there was no need of any kung-fu or martial art dear. and ofcourse there would never have been a fight . the attcker would chase and the victim would run. wow! dont mind. :)
superstar1358 8 months ago
@superstar1358 Chill man the comment is already 1 year old.
Edwinteror 8 months ago
@Edwinteror
A thing needs to be repeated over and over again dude to place it in mind hehhehe
superstar1358 8 months ago
the way a person holds a knife has nothing to do with skill. the silat and kali knife fighters are some of the best and they hold it the basic way.
BenJB07 2 years ago
but it is easier to be more powerful that way, most people dont get attacked by silat and kali knife fighters. so maybe skill is the wrong term but call it "street thug damge potential" or whatever but the more powerful way to hold the knife can do more damage faster, especially if it is a unprepared target instead of a ready and armed world champion knife fighter in unparalleled fitness and shape as many in here like to think about in their examples in how this and that fails.
onzghol 1 year ago
I practice Silat Panglipur, and Silat Pusako Harimau, and in those silat styles you hold the weapon like they show in the vid, so I don't know how it is with other styles, but it is really better to hold it not in the basic way!
12warface12 1 year ago
@BenJB07 u r right 100% !
lucathai67 1 year ago
how can this guy show such a dangerous and useless defence, that stuff definitly doesn`t work, and it is dangerous teach that to people. with this techniques you get be stapped immediatly in a real knife fight. please don`t do that!!!!!!
showman188 2 years ago
If someone shows up in a reverse grip like that, Im going to tear them up all day long simply because they do not have the same range as I would. aaaah... frustrating these videos...
TASolutions 2 years ago
lol, i've been doing that block almost every class and until now I know what's for XD.
lostharper 2 years ago
... awesome...
MyUnfamous 2 years ago
um kenpo priceples ! look at them inside the circle dude plus you leave ur self box open posionu want liner and side angle approch ! no offense you KNEES ARE OPNE !
svetoslav1212 2 years ago
It's not going to be like that. It's going to come out of nowhere and most probably you are going to die.
myelitesd 2 years ago
I agree......if you get attacked with a knife its going to be more like a prison shanking and not a true attack. That is the way thugs act nowadays.
gat0rbball 2 years ago
funny! grown up kids playing with knives
psolouno 2 years ago
@psolouno Hehehe.. you right.
Clowns play knife.
belekoty 2 years ago
if the guy does know how to use the knife he will hold just as the guy says but it wont be in his lead hand and you should get the fuck outa there!
mdtyci 2 years ago
Nice video, but I have to disagree with the comment about "skilled" knife users hold the blade in reverse grip. That is not true at all! That's a myth that has been around a while but has no truth to it at all.
WhoIsShogun 2 years ago
Totally agree. I am by no means a skilled knife fighter, but you generate more speed and reach with your slashes in the point out position. Plus your stabbing at the ribs and guts would be FAR more devastating than slashes(dependant upon knife size).
gat0rbball 2 years ago
Um WholsShogun, that actually is true about skilled knife fighters. The military teaches you to hold your K-Bar that way because you generate more power from you larger muscle groups, like your biceps and pectorals. As opposed to holding it like a shank where you use smaller muscle groups, like the ones in your wrist and forearm. But this would only happen if you were being attacked by a Marine (which is pretty unlikely) the average thug is going to hold it like a shank.
JHDiddles12 2 years ago
@JHDiddles12
Maybe the military guys train that way, but I dont think of them as "skilled" knife fighters. They train a short time and only a small range of skillsets. Look at the Kali, Eskrima or AMOK! guys for an example. Yes its true that it generates more power in some of ways. But it also strongly limits Ur options in a knife fight. If U, God forbid, get attacked by someone skilled with a knife U will not see the blade. If U do se the blade, it will be to late! =)
WhoIsShogun 2 years ago
I agree with everything you said except that it limits your options. You have all the same options as the "shank way" to hold a knife.
JHDiddles12 2 years ago
In my experience it limits the ranged attacks on example knife vs knife. I've done knife vs knife sparring and tried different ways of holding. But then again U gain the use of the blade to pull and "grab" the other guys arm in reverse. =) My point was simply that its a martial arts myth that "skilled knife fighters" ALWAYS hold it in reverse and that U can tell he is skilled by his way of holding the blade.
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WhoIsShogun 2 years ago
See some of Paul Vunaks videos on this subject!
The best way to practice knife defence is put a red marker in your partners hand and say "Go" free style!
Don't freeze frame the the techs, just let them do what ever they want!
jesuskopp 2 years ago
That was actually really helpful, despite what some other people are saying. It wasn't flashy and unrealistic, like some Krav Maga video's I've seen. You need to crawl before you can walk, you know. I though this was really helpful for learning the basics and not getting stabbed (which is kinda the point).
JHDiddles12 2 years ago
I dont think Krav gets a good name. The flashy stuff in Krav gets alot of hype, but having taken a few classes it is FAR more basic and realistic than you see. I think a good representation of Krav is the Fight Quest show from the history channel. The spar sequences that they show are brutal and realistic. Multiple guys and lots of punching and very little control. I feel like my statement is not that clear so let me know if you understand what I am getting at.
gat0rbball 2 years ago
tha was about as usfull as a car without wheels
1986ant1986 2 years ago
from this vid i learned ... what's the best way to hold a knife.
HighWay93 2 years ago 46
@HighWay93 Totally agree , the more powerful way to hold a knife? lol
jansico 1 year ago
@HighWay93, no you didn't. Hold knife like on the vid and you will get caught. Knife holding hand should never be exposed and kept tight to the body. If you hold the knife with right hand, then you should be showing left side with left hand pushing opponent, grabing, holding - in other words distracting. Then close in and make multiple quick attacks stabbing and cutting. But do it like on the vid and your knife hand is too exposed asking to be grabbed.
deanvallen 1 year ago 3
@HighWay93 There is no best way... Ice pick hold gives you power at the expense of distance. Standard hold gives you distance at the expense of power. Being able to switch, depending on situation is perhaps best.
fightingmink 11 months ago
despite what critics might say, i totally aggree that you should expect to get cut.
that is if you find that you HAVE TO fight the guy.
any serious martial arts teacher would tell you to run , or grab a suitable weapon.
I think these guys assume viewers allready know this, so they show some good ideas for if you have no choice.
jimmymoltesanti 2 years ago
You couldnt be more wrong. Do you even know how bad a cut is going to be? Look it up they have videos on it here on you tube. Just a little cut and it gona slash up your arm like it was made of paper! I have been cut by a knife and have the scars to prove it, the wound gets BIG, blood will come out like from a fucking RIVER! Do you really think you will be able to stand there and defend yourself after that? Then my friend you are as stupid as a dog! Dont plan to be cut, try not to get cut!
80KungFu 2 years ago 2
I think we dissagree less that you think.
exactly what you describe is why I think a knife fight has to be taken seriously.
to take it seriously also means to have realistic expectations of your ability to not get cut.
I think you will agree that fancy knife defences dont work in the street like they do in the dojo.
i am not saying getting cut is not a big deal, and you are just gonna do your nice techniques, no problem after being cut. quite the opposite.
jimmymoltesanti 2 years ago
Get you self in the mind that you are going to get cut? So basically what you are saying is that you are training to get hurt, to die? Defending yourself from harm and get away with your health and life in behold should always be your goal! And the stance, when exactly do you think you has time to use that? And if you do he will know you are prepped to defend yourself and you have lost the surprise element, a very important tool! This is bad, and I am not the only one to think that!
80KungFu 2 years ago
@80KungFu You've obviously never seen a real life knife-fight with somebody who knows how to use one...
You WILL get cut in a real knife fight. What he's saying is get yourself mentally prepared for that to happen so when it does happen you won't freak out or freeze up.
gofuckyoruself 2 years ago
Watch your tongue! I have been in a real knife situation and also seen two other knives attacks. Real ones not faced ones! I was talking about real self-defense, NOT fighting! Fighting is never real self-defense; real self defence-you defend and then you get the fuck out of there! Thats how a real situation lock like, not standing against each other in some fancy knife combat stance and trying to fight the guy! Never fight someone with a knife!
80KungFu 2 years ago
stop lyin...
cashroll24 2 years ago
Seriously mate.. you sound like a gd guy but if this is what your style of Kung Fu teach for their knife training then it is very poor.....or is this one of your techniques??
Sinbadsix 2 years ago
I had a knife pulled on me once when i was being mugged, and he didn't cut me, i just said, "I've got nothing valuable," and he ran away, so my defense is basic reasoning first =P
HanMan3000 2 years ago 4
then what if he dont listen to you and stabbed you first ??some bad guys dont believe that you dont have anything valuable.
ynnajie24 2 years ago
well, he didn't full on believe me considering he padded my pant pockets quickly before he took off, so yeah, pray he doesn't shank you first and try to get out into the open for help.
HanMan3000 2 years ago
I have no problem with expecting to get cut. Realizing you won't become cyborg jesus and avoid anything, no matter how bad your odds are, isn't the same as having the goal of those things happening. My problem is that kung fu isn't practical for self defense.
ScottMcTony 2 years ago
I have 30 plus years of Kung Fu practice and I have used it for self-defense and taking suspects into custody and it worked just fine for me. On what basis do you conclude that Kung Fu is not good for self-defense?
Detacman 2 years ago 2
yeah youre right *sigh..
Its everywhere.. all of them they are the same
even the martial art expert they give a bad comment.
they keep giving a negative feedback to those martial art expert,. please stop giving a negative feednback!maybe you guys are not a martial artist.. you cant identified which one is weak and expert.
ynnajie24 2 years ago
Johnny, well durr lol My brothers know a guy called Mogzy who could disarm someone with a knife quicker than they can pull it out of their pocket. whats the point carrying one if your never gonna use it,, or know how to? but i agree with ya bout the escrima and filipino, different techniques for different situations lol
BrandXdude1567 2 years ago
he give like tips on how to use a nife
TheJesusminime 2 years ago
There are no words that can describe how bad this guy is on knife defence. And this is not only my opinion; take a look at the blogs down below, everyone think this is bad! you should think that you are going to get cut, ohh ok, I see, so I should train with the goal to get cut. Why not bring your own knife then you can cut yourself and dont have to wait for the other guy to slice you up.
80KungFu 2 years ago 2
yep if you get held up with a knife or gun give the person what he wants and run away or just run away. you far less likely to get shot while running in a zig zag and def less likely to get stabbed... if you are cornered and it is you only choice cause you KNOW they are going ot kill you .. then self defense.
EquineJunkie88 2 years ago
yeah?what if your cornered?sometimes you cant run!.Id say find a class in escrima and the filipino arts those guys know about blades,best knife fighters Ive ever seen,these chavs carrying knifes dont know crap but they are still dangerous blunt knives too they do more damage.The beauty of filipino techniques is it can be applied to a newspaper,pen or anything you might legaly carry,A well trianed filipino guy with a pen would be deadlier than a chav with a knife anyday
johnnylucozade 2 years ago
Este tipo hablo pura paja y no hizo un coño ja ja ja ja da pena
leopardinho 2 years ago
no power fuck off, i could put a knife in the tree from any position there, this guys a fake
headkicka 2 years ago
Never take knife defense advice from someone who knows so little about knives and their use! There is more power, dexterity, reach and speed with the blade held upward in the hand. Basic knife awareness is good but be aware that a knife held with the blade upward is far more dangerous! Though of course a knife held downward is dangerous as well.
someduder1 2 years ago 2
ahhh
how to get stabbed
no knife wielding fool is going to slow motion attack you from a stupid angle, they are going to jump forward and grab you while sticking a hole in you. they arent going to stand far away and slice in a huge angle from the side.
big fat fail.
fudge1monkey 2 years ago 2
dont like it, there is an old guy greying, i think on this chennel that has a much better explanation, simpler and far more effective, i think this guy may get you killed, then again - each to their own.
Thraxz666 2 years ago 2
johnx951, you obviously have no idea what you are talking about, or know any of the CKM techniques! All you know is a bunch of made-up rumors, and hearsay that was made up by the Krav Maga higher ups because CKM is taking so much business away from Krav Maga. The techniques do in fact work, are very effective, simple and straight-forward. More so than the flawed techniques of "traditional" Krav Maga techniques wich I have in fact studied and learned also.
bennyc100 2 years ago
CKM is bogus and built on lies.
johnx951 2 years ago
PLEASE, don't ever use these techniques if somebody seriously attacks you with a knife, or use krav maga techniques either, you will most likely get killed!!! Look up knife tapping, kali knife fighting, or COMMANDO KRAV MAGA (not krav maga, there is a huge difference in the techniques). A knife attack is a VERY dangerous situation to be in.
bennyc100 2 years ago
What's wrong with Krav bro?
ScottMcTony 2 years ago
is that vin diesel......? he..eeh...e..
kalaunakmaju 2 years ago
Try Krav Maga.....
Taurus8763 2 years ago
BIG LOL. Weak UP People.
krankysun 2 years ago
I dont want be mean to you but seriously, your knife defence is so bad that I am afraid that some one will die trying to follow what you teach! Dont plan that you are going to get cut, if you do that you are basically planning to die. Your goal should be to defend and escape with your health. And if he attack you in the way you show, you are not going to get a very little cut, it takes very little, even for a small blade to cut a nasty wound. Dont learn this crap!
80KungFu 2 years ago 2
No, no, no, no, no.
No one attacking you with a knife will attack you in the ways illustrated and grip has nothing to do with skill. Zero. You get cut with a slice to the arms or legs you have about 2 minutes tops before you pass out from blood loss and possible shock. You also aren't grabbing anything at that point since blood is like baby oil.
aunticrist 2 years ago
that wasnt suposed to simulate a ninja knife assailant lol it was supposed to be a knife fight or someone takin a knife out during a fight. i like this video cuz i wuld never have known how to properly stand
mikebarros6 2 years ago
Hmm.. Agreed until part on "aware about the attackers grip"...
In reality if the guy moves to stab you - you will have problems spotting a knife.. So I'd stop talking about grips and deal with any punch or kick as a knife attack. Reasons: 1) Darkness 2) multiple attackers (unable to see who has the weapon) 3) small blade 4) Hidden blade. 80% of those stabbed did not know until after the incident.
Tequn9q 2 years ago
the best lesson i recieved was, how to properly hold a kinfe..lol
readermikejones 2 years ago 4
He should use a rubber knife for safety reasons, not a real knife. You have no use of standing in some special knife defence stance. If someone really wants to kill you with a knife they are not going to let you see the knife before it is too late. And even if they did, standing like that show the opponent that you are going to try to defend your self and he will sharpen his attack.
SelfDefenceExpert 2 years ago
early on when they were more up close you could tell that the "knife" was dull and probably couldn't cut a tomato if he wanted to
Fl4m30f3d3n 2 years ago
The best self defence is prevention.
What the hell were you doing in a situation where another guy has a knife and wants to stab you with it? You must have said something really stupid.
benanaman 2 years ago
Your a pussy so fuck off you ignorant cunt
ririmja 2 years ago
Aaah. THAT's how you get into those situations.
*stab*
benanaman 2 years ago
benanman
I know a person, father of 2, responsible and calm, who suffered an attack by two guys. One had a knife (small, not sure exactly what) and the other a machete. So please understand better what is possible to happen...
FanatikosKafetzis 2 years ago
Ok, where was he attacked? Was it alone in a dark alleyway at night?
benanaman 2 years ago
No, passing outside a club. These 2 were not allowed in and went mad. They attacked him and he had done nothing t them...
FanatikosKafetzis 2 years ago
lol
jppjirojpp 2 years ago
or they need money, or something from you?
Fl4m30f3d3n 2 years ago
So take out your wallet, and give it to them. They won't stab you if you don't say or do something stupid. Get skilled with your communication, and you'll avoid these situations.
benanaman 2 years ago 2
Sometimes if they're afraid of getting caught.. They will slice you no matter what.. You will have to see his body language in order to know when to give it up.. Or to save your life. :)
precisionkid 2 years ago
those guys in the beginning looked like friends and then all of a sudden the guy in the black t-shirt pulls a knife on him- kinda crazy
WolfishNuckajuh 2 years ago
"You are going to get cut most likely"- TRUE
"You have to know how to stand"- FALSE
^ you have to know how to move. would any of you stand still when there is a knife coming at you?
"From this grip they are a more skillful knife fighter because you can get more power"-False
^ From that grip they lose range. The speed of the blade and the handler are what do damage.
LockonLazers 2 years ago 3
about point 2 - Movement is implied. how you stand is important because it ALLOWS you to move when you need too, and maximizes your defense against more lethal strikes.
about the other points, i think he was probably right, but what are your sources?
sithwalrus 2 years ago
I train in Praying Mantis ... you are right when u say get control of the knife, however depending on the skill of the other fighter u may not beable to do so.I personally didnt care for this video
PRAYINGMANTISKUNGFU 2 years ago
This looks adequate. But only an amateur would face you with his knife.
Muna004 2 years ago
karate nija whoo! i guess this might work if your looking over your shoulder 24/7/31/365 LULLZERS
peculiarself 2 years ago
Just use your head not your hands, the whole point of is to THINK everything out clearly.
yoyuepz 2 years ago
These guys are fucking retarded.
"You are going to get cut, most likely."
EvilJOEFX 2 years ago
flaming does not invalidate their point. knife vs. hands - i would not want to be in that situation. he just does not want people going into a fight without expecting to get hurt, because that increases the odds you will go into shock / lose control when you are.
sithwalrus 2 years ago
If you really want to take someone on who's got a weapon, you wouldn't be sitting at home all day watching Youtube videos on the subject and expecting to be a master at it.
You would learn from a professional who has had decades of experience, by going to the various martial arts schools located pretty much anywhere, in which case, you would not need this shitty video.
By making this, they are purely trying to show us all how great they are, and its fucking pointless.
EvilJOEFX 2 years ago
bite his face off!!!
invadingnimrod 2 years ago
wow, this is horrible. i doubt you would want to punch some one once you block the knife attack. you would want to gain control over the knife. common sense right?
martialartsmaster5 2 years ago
i think ill keep going for the groin like the other people say
ndanick21 2 years ago
this is all good stuff, but if you want to know what to do when your held at knifepoint instead of being attacked you should check out my video
MMAfighter70 2 years ago
actually this video is wrong the grip of the knife doesnt mean that the person is more skilled with a knife. Pakal grip (reverse grip) with a knife is not more powerful it is meant to control the person up close not really for slashing. Sak Sak (Regular) grip is more powerful by using gravity on the downward angles causing much more damage to a person. Both grips are dangerous non the less.
kracka117 2 years ago 4
messing around with edged weapons is dangerous full stop.
watch some of paul vunaks videos.
singhakabuttar 2 years ago 2
all of these knife defense videos are wrong... are you really all that shocked?
Jonobos 2 years ago 2
hahah no im surprised at all just trying to let some pple know this stuff is crap so they dont try it out and get killed haha
kracka117 2 years ago
my theory on knife defence is that no ones gonna stand in a knife fighting stance and try and stab you, there either gonna come up behind you sneakingly, stab you and run off, or stab you while your washing your hands in a nightclub toilet(just 2 examples)
the best defence is to stay away from places where knife attacks are likely ie alleyways, overcrowded pubs/nightclubs anywhere too much alcohol or drugs are consumed.
lastly dont hang around with dickheads, or self confessed hardmen.
singhakabuttar 2 years ago 3
Ahhh, the "Flashers vs Slashers" theory.. I agree, the "Flashers" want something and use the knife to get what they want. "Flashers" aren't out to use the knife untill after they get what they, or in some case, not get what they want.
"Slashers" hide the knife until they cut/stab because their objective is to make you bleed, and a surprise attack is just the way to do that..
Breeegz 2 years ago
flashers vs thrashers theory? youve lost me.
theory in the martial arts is to risky.
conditioned reflex is what will save your arse.
its better to practice one techniques a thousand times, than practice a thousand techniques once.
thanks for the response, could you elaborate?
singhakabuttar 2 years ago
It's my theory, so googleing won't help you.
Basically, if someone wants to cut or stab you, they will. They will conceal the knife and reveal it mid stab/slash. If someone wants something besides blood, they will pull the knife out and threaten you.
I'm trying to put attackers armed with knives into generic categories.
Breeegz 2 years ago