Borderlands - Third Person (Improved) & Custom Colors

[OldSchoolFPSPCGamer]

Thank God Borderlands isn't originally third person, because it would look like that gears of war crap.

[MrAwsome527]

is this only for pc ??

[Alekzis47]

Awesome example of how to set up the camera on third person dude. Mine looks about the same, except for the crosshair, mine looks a lot bigger for some reason... Anyways, I used this video to show people the 3rd person view can be accurate if you set it up right.

[Xjjmar]

Pretty awesome, man.

[Freakylittlethingy]

Nice job!

[DawnTharpe]

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[biueeagle]

hey , wad is your camera scale , camera right , camera up ?

[TheSluggaboy]

Thats why i love PC's more than any other console.U can do modding to it and it will tehnically allways have better graphics ofc if u have powerfull enough PC.

P.S.

I just wish that there are more great games for PC rather than consoles,and this TPS camera made me play Borderlands again.

[yunjizzle]

I like this video. Roland is nice to play in 3rd person because he has such a cool character model.

[MrGriegryder]

Awesome! did try this out and it work perfectly.. kept camra on default settings. Both Aiming in 3rd with sniper rifle improved my aiming lol

Gave this to friends who have trouble playing 1st person games due to motion sickness.. Thanks again UltimateCarl

[MrEu666]

I'm having problems. Configured as the tutorial and it worked correctly, but sometime in the game, I shoot the enemies, but the shots do not cause damage! Is there any way to solve this problem when it occurs?

[stones117]

how do you bind the controls so that when you aim down the sights, the camera switches to first person? im a little confused lol

[XxPLAY3RxON3xX]

Critical Biatch!

[heavenlynekogod]

alright so, I'm looking through your gbx forums and I see that you fixed the whole "aiming in first person while in third thing" but I'm not really quite understanding exactly where I'm supposed to set it up and what exactly i'm supposed to comment out with the semi-colon. Could I ask you to please make a video explaining this?

[gerronimo92]

and my character is on my left side of the screen but when i aim it goes into first person and pulls the gun to his face from the right. is there a way to hold a weapon left handed?

[gerronimo92]

ok so i shoot my grenage launcher but the grenades go behind me...

[animadnb]

Carl can I please have your ini's?! My aiming is way off while playing im shooting forward but the bullets hit the fence to my right. x'D

[xEijos]

I got it all to work except that when I try to shoot enemies (without the iron sight) it goes completely berserk! How did you get it all nice and clean when you shoot enemies?

Thanks in advance.

[Pinkis007]

Damn cool.

Maybe you still have your WillowImput.ini and WillowGame.ini files? Can you upload them? I cant get it to work. 3rd person works, but from scope i see just my head and iron sight dont work at all...

[ravedragonx]

what camera settings do you use for your scaling, i tried 13/0/1.75 and i have trouble picking up items and opening chests without swapping back to first person

[UltimateCarl]

Also, geez people. Please read the video info before you comment!

NO you cannot do this on a console.

To learn how to do it yourself, check out the links in the video info. :P

[xampwnu]

Not improved stupid. How the fuck are u supposed to aim dumbass

[UltimateCarl]

@xampwnu Improved over the first video, not necessarily the game itself. Also as you can see in the video, I'm 1) aiming and hitting enemies just fine, 2) have my controls bound so that when you aim-down-sights, the game switches back to first-person.

Please learn to read, see, and think before flaming my videos again, and have a pleasant day! :D

[Shinkatagi]

@UltimateCarl I'm sorry carl. ;____; I should tell you that ever since the vietnam war, xamp has been unable to read ever since.

[MalachiteR]

@xampwnu idiot.

[MackerelAssasin]

@xampwnu use ur mouse/gamepad/controller, position the crosshair over the enemy ur supposed to be shooting at, press the LMB/wadever button tat is assigned to shooting. that's easy for 1st person. 3rd person? do the same thing.

[Doyledeth]

@xampwnu The same way you aim in Third Person shooters idiot.

[frittern13]

can u do this for 360

[UltimateCarl]

@frittern13 Nope.

[pant104]

@frittern13 I love how stupid console morons like you keep asking these retarted questions

[SantiagoKenny]

God I love 3rd person view way better than 1st. Now if only BRINK can be 3rd person I'll be all set!

[TheCKES]

Third-person in Borderlands reminds me of Army of Two: The 40th Day.

[444ownage]

borderlands should have been made in 3rd person... maybe in the second one(which are making one) they might have a option...i hope

[SN0WMAN777XD]

how do u do it in the xbox

[amnothiusz]

is this on the pc??

[MikeGrrr]

I love how it goes first person when focusing aim, but mine only goes first person when it has a scope of some sort and without one it just zooms a little and the cross air disappears. how did you get that gun in the vid to do that?

[captainclayman]

this is actually kinda cool

it reminds me of MGS how it switches to first person when you have to aim

[DADBLG]

can u play on the left side of the screen, u know gears of war style?

[GodOfRessurrection]

CRITICAL BIATCH!

[Mar55666]

No you can't use it on the xbox stupid

[Thekill0213]

It works on Xbox 360 ?

I Play as Brick , level 39 ...

[Xemnas879]

lol xbox

[xXJAY360]

can you show me?

[NateMan74]

its 0:17 he says critical biyatch

[NateMan74]

what do you have to do to get it like this when you edit the ini?

[Cooldude8941]

roland is black?

[phil27x]

@Cooldude8941 , lol

[ridemied]

can this be done in console?

[UltimateCarl]

Not as far as I know, it has to be edited in an .ini file. I could be wrong, though, check the forum.

[Psychicnoah]

in your other one he's on the left side of the screen but in this one he's on the right... do you get to choose?

[UltimateCarl]

In the forum the video info links to, it gives instructions on how to set the camera to your personal preferences. :D

[BullentinXRights]

@UltimateCarl how do u play in 3rd person i didnt start yet :O

[xxViciousBetrayalxxx]

@UltimateCarl i was wondering if i sent you my character save could you edit the colors, the guide didnt provide enough info (imo)

[ites10]

w00t hahhaa 0:17 he says : critical biatch!

[arcticf0x8]

@ites10

Yeah lol I jizzed my pants when I heard him say it for the first time

[Gunzsoldier]

Why dont u guys freaaking zoom in u noobs u have  a scope or iron sight on it why dont u use it

[BalCleric]

3rd Person doesn't like you using your iron sights, the screen just zooms you in a bit.

[Psychicnoah]

kinda like gears of war?

[Me1619BG]

Why arent there already mods for this game I mean it uses the unreal engine and the game is just perfect for mods and addons

[Kev2077]

2k should enable this for xbox and ps3

[Ashenshruga]

This is awesome

[GrimSplinter]

haha I remember that map took me a while to kill moe and marley there =(

[theking199012]

thats on pc

[Reiter555]

no way! that's awesome! can i do it on my xbox?

[ElSuparman]

nop only pc

[klAyism]

Is there a way to enable 3rd person for other players in the co-op game because I noticed that only the host has the privileges to use it.

If someone knows, please reply :)

[EisenklauenWerwolf]

Yeah i also noticed, it works with Roland and Brick but with Mordecai there are problems with aiming. I dont know about Lilith because i didnt played her yet.

Besides this, Borderlands in 3rd-person kicks ass and i thank you Ultimate Carl for providing the information and the link to do that.

5/5

[mikeymyer]

@EisenklauenWerwolf

It seems that in some map the aiming of the gun goes wrong and you accidentally got your character in that map. For example I play Modecai lv 50 in Old Haven and it was fine til I switch to my Lilith lv 20 and she was in Fyrestone. The aiming gone wrong there and I thought it might be lilith. But later on when I use my Modecai to travel to Fyrestone he has the same problem. So it may be the map that is not for thirdperson.

[EisenklauenWerwolf]

Hmm thats pretty weird, i only experienced the problems with Mordecai.

I mostly enjoy playing with my lvl 50 Brick and i never had a problem in 3rd Person with him.

[mikeymyer]

Hey can you try and go back to fyrestone at the computer and try shooting in directions? I'm using brick on another computer and still have that problem. Seems areas like towns where you trade are having this isue. I got that with new haven too near the 3 shops.

[Pluberus]

HELP! This doesn't work with mordecai it seems. x( The bullets shoot where the barrel of the gun is pointing instead of where the aimer is.

No problems using this with Roland though. x(

[JDSproducitons]

yeah I hosted a game and notice it worked. If you can find the thread that finds a way to do this in another users game pls tell. ^_^

[JDSproducitons]

is there a way to use third person online??? It doesn't work for me.

[UltimateCarl]

Yes, but either you have to be hosting the game, or the host has to have the same settings or something... I don't remember exactly, but they figured it out somewhere in the thread.

[bossman8603]

Hey ultimate carl what camera settings are you using in this vid?

[UltimateCarl]

The thread I linked to in the info has both of my .inis on the 8th page!

[zomgwolf]

I dont have all the bindings below the WillowGame.WillowPlayerInput. Do I have to play through the whole game first and I ripped my Borderlands.

[UltimateCarl]

If by "ripped" you mean "acquired illegally", then shame on you. :P If you just mean you backed it up or took out a CD check or something then that's fine. Either way it shouldn't matter.

And no, you don't have to play through the entire game (?). You don't have to get  INTO the game at all, all you need to do is change at least one control in the options. Doesn't matter what it is or what you change it to.

This stuff is in the thread, people. :D

[BigLebowski2000]

Playing FPS sucks you more into the action, but I do love 3rd person and 1st person games both.

[mikeymyer]

Yes, it seems I've been switching between 3rd and 1st view cos the both have different experience when playing.

[voodoofriends]

is there any way to do this on the ps3?

[UltimateCarl]

Unfortunately, not that I know of. I'm sure it's possible, but since it involves fiddling with settings that are hidden and not normally accessible on a PS3 disk there's no simple way to do it. D:

[voodoofriends]

darnit because it is awesome

did u do it on a pc or an 360?

[UltimateCarl]

PC. A 360 would likewise be hard to do it on. It's because it involves tweaking .ini files, which are installed to your hard drive and easy to find/edit with a PC, but the equivalents are buried somewhere on the disc and more heavily protected for a console game.

[voodoofriends]

thanks any way

[kingdemon815]

No, i dont think its possible. i know its easy to do for PC however. Er, what rifle are you using in this video? and what is it's damming/stats

[UltimateCarl]

Wow, sorry man but I really don't even know. It's been over a month since I recorded this, I don't have any of the same equipment anymore.

[kingdemon815]

@UltimateCarl haha, i just realize it shows it in the video, and that you werent level 50. lol.

[zomgwolf]

Is it possible to switch between third person and first person? Like if I bind "F8" can I switch to third person and first person?

[UltimateCarl]

Yes, and there are instructions on how to do so in the thread I linked to in the video info! :D

[Trooper135]

Hi, I've got Third Person itself working fine, But I can't seem to get it to go into First Person when I aim, could you maybe add my email and help me out with this? Thanks.

PS: I'll shoot you a PM with my email.

[UltimateCarl]

I think I missed your PM... Anywho I haven't messed with these settings in a while so I hardly remember it. The best I can say is take a look at the thread I linked to in the info and post a question if you're still having trouble.

[s8ing4life]

is this only for pc

[Qipzah]

dude, you made my borderlands experience perfect !!

[xXFarmermanXx]

ive got to admit this game looks better in third person

[afroboy11]

playing in third person sometimes screws with my aim when i fire from the hip.

it fucking shoots backwards!! but the game corrects itself after a few minutes.

still sucks though. does this happen to anyone else?

[UltimateCarl]

Yeah, it's a known issue with playing like this. :/ Since it's not officially supported there's not really any way to work around it unless they eventually patch it in officially.

[afroboy11]

i also can't loot unless i switch back to 1st person. but i play as brick so maybe that's why.

aside from that, playing in third person is a blast

[UltimateCarl]

Really? Huh, haven't had that problem, even with Brick. May wanna adjust your camera position if you haven't already, there's instructions on how to do that in the thread I linked!

[afroboy11]

i can't loot guns or chests that are on the ground since brick is so tall, the loot is probably too far away from the camera.

crouching sometimes works lol

i try to adjust it so i can loot without having to switch back to 1st person but then brick takes up the whole screen.

there has to be that perfect distance where everything works for brick. guess i just have to keep trying.

[TheShadowCross]

It happens to me randomly and I dont even use this. I'll be scoped in a 98 accuracy sniper, then have the shot go so out of place I cant even see where it lands without turning.

[SkaterK3]

Seems like a fun game...

[Zohaib1]

Dude, when i do it and zoom in i keep seeing brick's fucking birthmark, is there anyway so taht when i hit mouse2, "ironsights" that it goes into first person zooming mode, and then when i stop aiming it automatiically goes back into third person mode?

[UltimateCarl]

Page 6 of the thread I linked to in the info has binds to do just that! :D

[ChronicHero420]

wow I wish this was in third person on the xbox looks way better and idc what my weapon looks like gearbox bah.

[tkellaway]

they probably didn't enable 3rd person in the game by default because they were so proud of how nice their guns looked :p

[goblinhk]

not working when i join servers only on sp and ofcorse if i join some1

[UltimateCarl]

I've heard about that... Make sure you put the binds in both locations of the .ini, there's two spots. If you did and it still isn't working then... Hm, I'm not sure. D:

[goblinhk]

Where in both places PlayerInput and......?

[UltimateCarl]

At the end of the [Engine.PlayerInput] and [WillowGame.WillowPlayerInput] sections. Even then it may not work unless you're hosting, I always end up hosting because I have a more stable connection than my friends. :P

[DoomShroomer]

how can u play in 3rd person? looks cool!.

[UltimateCarl]

Only on PC so far, but check the links in the info. :D

[EmpError]

Would you mind posting your entire .ini file somewhere since GB forums are down?

[UltimateCarl]

I would, but I'm unfortunately at work right now and wont be done with that and class for a few hours... At which point the forums will probably be back up anyhow. :P

But, once the forums ARE back up I may post my settings on the thread for reference.

[UltimateCarl]

GB forums are back up. Both of my entire .ini files are now posted in the thread I linked to. :D

[N0itcartsba]

I followed the link to forum instructions but it was a bit vague in terms of placement. Also if I need to put it in Baseinput.ini instead of Willowinput.ini could you help me with that? Thanks again!

[UltimateCarl]

Mm, nothing goes in BaseInput.ini, you're looking for WillowInput.ini. In the 6th page of the thread someone posted his entire WillowInput.ini you can check for reference.

You'll find it in something like (depending on your OS) "Documents -> Games -> Borderlands -> WillowGame -> Config". In the same folder there's a file called WillowGame.ini, which is where you place the camera position. You wont ADD anything there, just change the listed options under the [WillowGame.WillowPawn] heading.

[UltimateCarl]

If you're still not seeing it, I can try to PM you more detailed instructions.

For reference, in this video I'm playing with FOV 100, CamScale 5.5, CamScaleRight -1.65, and CamScaleUp 1. Note that the different characters are different sizes, however, so you may want to adjust this depending on who you play (for instance, with those settings Brick will cover almost half the screen including the middle of it, making it extremely difficult to see or aim).

[N0itcartsba]

Thanks

[N0itcartsba]

Could you please give me the exact .ini layout to have this work properly?Including position? Thanks!

[freakyricky]

i bet this is only for pc version

[UltimateCarl]

I'm playing on PC here, yes. Since it required .ini editing (and in the case of the colors, hex editing) then I think it's theoretically possible to do in a console, but would require some hacking and be quite a bit more complicated. Well, I'd assume anyhow, I've never really done any console hacking/modding.