Sometimes this newly learned lecturers want to learn more than necessary. this lecturer doesnt know the difference between sunnah and fard!!! but his rest of the speech was ok!!!
@unique10303@unique10303 Growing beard is one of the most important Sunnah of the Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) !!! may be mr. green is more learned than me but u cant say that learned people dont make mistakes!!! i can show u many faults of peace TV lecturers and other muslim Lecturers with the proof of Islam!! but i wont becos i should not find my other Muslim brother's fault;
@CaptainHook1971 if i do that Allah will find mine!!! if i could meet u face to face i could say u why i said he was wrong!! anyway there is no need to argue more !!! May Allah remove all our misconceptions!!
@unique10303(this is the rest of the message) if i do that Allah will find mine!!! if i could meet u face to face i could say u why i said he was wrong!! anyway there is no need to argue more !!! May Allah remove all our misconceptions!!
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'No no no - you're supposed to haggle!' Monty Python couldn't even compete with this superstitious rubbish. Allah must be pretty shallow if her concern is whether a man shaves or not.
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Mr Green - that is a particularly shabby beard you have . You would look much better with a clean shave. I do like your hair though. You have obviously been to a good hair stylist. As a suggestion perhaps some tinting next time ?
abubakr ,omar ,osma ,ayasha ,talha , zobir are kafar acording to sahih moslem and bokhari ,also in quran surrah monafighin , ahzab , tahrim and ..........
Brother, the Hadith said that those who follow the Quran and my Sunnah will be right. Both the Quran and the Prophet's Sunnah were narrated to us through the Sahaba, those you claim were Kafir. If they were not Muslim, they would surely have corrupted both, and no Muslim would know what to believe in or do.
Brother, you cannot have it both ways. If the Sahaba were wrongdoers, then there is reason to doubt Islam. If Islam is pure, the Sahaba were also pure
it is quran saying (those who scapes from wars are kafar)you know abubakr omar osman scaped from holy wars of OHOD ,KHAIBAR ,HANIN ....)all sunnah book tell about these 3 khalifa scaped from wars
please read SURRAH TAHRIM aya 1 2 3 4 5 god is talking about HASBA AND AYESHA prove is in SAHIH MUSLEM & BOKHARI omar said surrah tahrim is about hasba & ayesha
it is quran saying (those who scpeps from wars are kafar)you know abubakr omar osman scaped from holy wars of OHOD ,KHAIBAR ,HANIN ....)all sunnah book tell about these 3 khalifa scaped from wars
please read SURRAH TAHRIM aya 1 2 3 4 5 god is talking about HASBA AND AYESHA prove is in SAHIH MUSLEM & BOKHARI omar said surrah tahrim is about hasba & ayesha
no shia muslem said ali(as) can save the world , we say if all muslems follow imam ali ,this world will be peacful world,if you read NAHJOLBLAGHEH ,you will find out why
you can not find one world that OMAR OSMAN ABUBAKR said that benefit humaneties ,i read all sunnah book ,there are more prove that your 3 KHALIFAH
no shia muslem said ali(as) can save the world , we say if all muslems follow imam ali ,this world will be peacful world,if you read NAHJOLBLAGHEH ,you will find out why
you can not find one world that OMAR OSMAN ABUBAKR said that benefit humaneties ,i read all sunnah book ,there are more prove that your 3 KHALIFAH
A Muslim is a person who believes in the 6 Articles of Faith, and who follows the 5 obligatory acts of worship. If you do those things, you are Muslim. I am sure that Omar (ra), Uthman (ra) and Abu Bakr all were Muslim. Remember what the prophet (saws) said, that if a Muslim claims that another Muslim is a kuffar, then at least one of them is. Do you understand what this means? If you claim a person is a kuffar, then either he is, and you are speaking the truth, or YOU are a kuffar!
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Assholes like this mr.green are worse than ethnic muslims. Why do not muslim men grow a flap of skin to cover their eyes.?Then the muslim women coluld burn their hijabs, burkas and niquabs. P& SBUH
Can i just say what is said is 100% wrong. Prophet Mohammed (s.a.w.s) did not order men to grow there bear (as only Allah has the power to do such a thing) prophet Mohammed (s.a.w.s) order men not to shave their beards.
@neptha2 Do you believe Muhammad would disobey Allah and order his own prohibitions?
(Quran 7:203-4) Allah commands Muhammad to say that he cannot bring any revelation other than Allah's Quran. Muhammad followed only the Quran and there is no command therein to keep a beard of any sort. Peace.
@2angeline srry my brother but yet again i find my self arguing with a person who either cannot read or is overwhelmed by his ignorance. First things first, plzz do not Quote the quran in english, in my opion and opinion of many scholars that is consider wrong. Second thing, if you truly believe mohammed (s.a.w.s) order men to grow their beards. You are insinuating mohammed (s.a.w.s) commanded men to take the role of Allah, which is shirk (biggest sin a human can do).so plz be careful!!
@neptha2 I believe you need to read my comment again. Because you seem to be agreeing with me. And I have not quoted Quran 7:203-4 in English. Please provide your understanding of the verses from it's original Arabic, if you wish to be taken seriously.
@2angeline First things first you did Quote the quran in english (dont say otherwise). Second thing, in the quran as accoridng to most scholar's transilation, as a muslim you are commanded to obey mohammed (s.a.w.s). wat he says is like what God says (becuase mohammed is being instructed by angel gabriel). So to disobey his comand of allowing the bear to grow as God's will(as he instructed muslim to do whe he was alive)is to to disobey Allah him self.
@neptha2 If I was quoting, I would have placed the words in between inverted commas. I provided my understanding of the verses as well as the reference so that everyone can look it up. you claim it is wrong but provide no quotes to discredit it.
@2angeline ill do you a better thing than a quote ill give a link with a quote and an explination. Brother belive i once was ignorant like your self. i thought mohammed (s.a.w.s) did not follow hadith and followed the quran and revilved the quran. But as one great women said (wife of mohammed s.a.w.s) if you wana see a walking quran look at mohammed. watch?v=aSoLFBFI1lk&feature=related.
@zmsayed - And where did you get that gem of guidance from? Sahabah rode horses, so I better not see you sitting a motorized vehicle. Sahabah wore robes, so you better take off your pants and put on the robes.
As long as Muslims like yourself rely on Shaykhs to give you an answer, the Muslim Ummah will stay in the gutter like it is today. History shows that as long as Christians did the same thing they were in the gutter. So learn from their mistakes and their successes.
@zmsayed - Does it not occur to you that Quran is the guideline that we are suppose to follow. Why is that so difficult for you accept. We are not living in the times of the sahabah or do you not realize that. We are living in OUR time and we need our guidelines which fit OUR world. It just so happen that the Quran provides those guidelines in full detail.
@McChirkeen Yeah, another Quran only guy.. I used to be one untill I realised that I had to change myself.. not change Islam.
Islam has guidelines for OUR time and OUR world, what your trying to do is adjust Islam to so called ''western civilized'' standards.. Yes the west is so superiour, rape, crime, zina, clubs, alcohol, murder, materialism etc etc..
Maybe you should stick to the lifestyle Allah decided for us and not trying to adjust is to a MAN MADE lifestyle combined with Islam
@gewoonvoorfa2 - You used to be Quran only guy????? If you were you would have known that Quran is the only guidance for us because it says so in the Quran. So I guess you just lied to make your point which would be successful if you were addressing a village idiot which I am not. Allah decided for us the lifestyle as mandated in the Quran, I guess you don't know that either. How deplorable!!!!!!
@McChirkeen I lied? Oh right, that's because when you become a Quranist there is just no possible way whatshowever to revert back to Islam..
Stop deceiving yourself brother.. come back to Islam.. The Quran says to follow Allah and the prophet, it makes distinction between the two. (Surah an-nisaa 4:59). It's clear but the shaitan wants you to follow this corrupted lifestyle that the west teaches.. the west is not superiour.. obviously, western society is chaos and you know it..
@gewoonvoorfa2 - the deceit is in your mind. You have left Islam and now belong to a Cult which keeps beards and thinks that is religion. How asinine.
@McChirkeen So the Prophet(saws) shaved? In your opinion Muslims are astray for the past 1200 years and the real Islam came back up about 20(?) years or so.. does that mean billions of people will go to hell? Islam hasn't been around for 1200 years and only a select group of I guess not even a million people follow ''real'' Islam, chosen few.. sounds like Judaism.
You just mix Islam with western culture for your own benefits..
Don't corrupt yourself with this fake materialistic lifestyle
@gewoonvoorfa2 = The best way to judge the merits of a philosophy is to consider the outcome of its application. What Muslims have practiced for the last 1200 years is the Islam according to Bukhari and his gang of Persian Zoroastrians who conjured up the so called Sahih Hadith. Furthermore, the Muslims have abandoned and disabled he Quran from their lives. The result is the gutter that they are in now. The Muslims can get out the gutter if accept Quran as the only guidance.
@McChirkeen Abandoned the Quran? Millions of people memorised the Quran and read it everyday.. Islam can't excist without the Quran, so can't the hadith.. first of all the so called gutter is based on what you see on CNN and other western media that don't show the real Middle East.. second of all, it's not because they abandoned the Quran, it's because they've abondoned the Quran and Sunnah and live according do the dunya, just like you, you want the dunya without hardship and part-time Islam
@gewoonvoorfa2 - memorizing or reading the Quran is not same as understanding the Quran. I am surprised that you could not figure that out. The hadith is totally manufactured conjecture and it stands with or without Quran. The gutter I am referring to is that of ignorance and illiteracy. So in the 57 muslims countries how many institute of higher learning do you have that are among the top 100 in the world. Do you have a single institute which can come close to the Indian Inst of Tech.
@McChirkeen What? Do you actually know how many people learn Arabic to understand the Quran? It doesn't stand without Quran because hadith goes deeper into the Suras of the Quran. Higher learning? Who makes up those lists, western universities?
@gewoonvoorfa2 - Why don't we compare the aggregate GDP of Muslim countries (less than $2 trillion) to that of England ($2.3 trillion) which is a tiny island. It is YOU who have abandoned the Quran because you follow something called Hadith and Sunnah which has nothing to do with the Prophet. It was manufactured by the Persians 1200 years ago (that is 200 yrs after the Prophet) and propagated by the Abbasides and imposed on the Muslims. You don't even know your own history.
@McChirkeen GDP? haha did you forget people make less money and everything is cheaper in those countries? It isn't manufactured.. it's carefully preserved trough reliable people..
@gewoonvoorfa2 - 17:46 is about people like You. "We place shields around their minds, to prevent them from understanding it, and deafness in their ears. And when you preach your Lord, using the Quran alone, they run away in aversion." - 25:30 is talking about You as well. "Then the Messenger will say: "O my Lord! Truly my people have disabled this Qur’an making it of no account."
@McChirkeen no it isn't.. you just made that up.. who are you to decide what Allah means in the Quran, bold statements.. you totally ripped the translation. 31:6 And of mankind is he who purchases idle talks (i.e. music, singing, etc.) to mislead (men) from the path of Allah without knowledge, and takes it (the path of Allah, the Verses of the Quran) by wat of mockery. For such there wil be a humiliating torment (in the Hell-fire)
Lahwa alhadeethi = baseless hadith - NOT singing and music. The word hadeeth is used in Quran in many places and each time it signifies that Quran is the only valid "hadeeth" and rest is conjecture.
@McChirkeen Yes, I remember saying to eveybody ''you have no knowledge of the Quran'' to people in my days of ignorance.. But now I realise that reading a few internet websites, reading translations and having no knowledge of the Arabic language isn't knowledge compared to people who did years of study and can memorise it back to forth with the meaning of the words...
You just asume that the word hadith only means hadith like that of bukhari and Muslim, but it doesn't..
Do they see nothing in the government of the heavens and the earth and all that Allah has created? it may well be that their terms is nigh drawing to an end? In what hadeeth after this will they then believe?
@McChirkeen Again, you misuse the words over here.. it simply means the litteral translation of the word hadith which is statement..
Let's assume your right and the Muslims are wrong ok? At least they follow bits of the Quran which is better than taking Jesus as a god, or polytheism for that.. why would Allah reward the non-believers more then people who follow his True Scripture and reward the enemy's of it?
Makes no sense.. you don't understand the concept of rewards from Allah at all..
@McChirkeen They shaitan makes you think your superiour, intelligent, better. He made you arrogant and makes your enemy Muslims instead of the west who invades, kills and destroys... You look up to them, look at the Surah I gave you about taking them as allies and trying to gain respect and reward with hem.. All for the sake of a little materialism in the Dunya.
The reward is after you die, not in terms of GDP brother, the kuffar get rewarded in material because Allah is mercifull..
@gewoonvoorfa2 - As I said, my comments are not for you. You are not able to grasp the concept of what it means to be 1.4 billion with 57 countries and don't have a single country with a legitimate democracy, decent level of education, social welfare programs that treat people equally, provide an environment conducive for investment and economic growth and basic respect for the people. Your philosophy is actually a defeatist one and totally against the philosophy of the Quran.
@McChirkeen And you prefer this fake democracy.. I know kafirs who admit it's all stage and that the people don't have a voice.. Welfare, we have something called Zakat in the Islamic world in case you forgot but if you like countries that are ''conductive for investment'' like the USA with a loan debt of $14.66 trillion and no social security be my guest, women make less money then men but their equal? I advise you to actually visit an Islamic country instead of having a CNN worldview :)
@gewoonvoorfa2 - do you really want me to expose the 57 or so Muslim countries and what goes on there? Would you like for the record tell everyone here where do you live. Why don't you take your hadith based Islam to some Muslim country where they would appreciate you.
@McChirkeen You claim to follow the prophet and you think he shaved, held elections for a prime minister, and prayed 3 times a day just saying random stuff from the Quran? Oh, and alcohol was halal ofcourse so they'd meet in a pub every weekend.. Astagfirullah
Compare the conquerings of Khālid ibn al-Walīd with warfare in the Quran, he fought under the Prophet, Omar and Abu Bakr, so they all acted outside of the Quran?
@gewoonvoorfa2 - Random stuff from the Quran? Are you for real? You have no control over your thoughts do you? Then again Quran already predicted about people like you in 17:46 - "We place shields around their minds, to prevent them from understanding it, and deafness in their ears. And when you preach your Lord, using the Quran alone, they run away in aversion."
Got your pegged pretty good here. And how did alcohol become halal? where did you read that?
@gewoonvoorfa2 - So the Quran is asking in 7:185 "....In what hadeeth after this will they then believe?" So what is the answer? I believe the answer that people like @gewoonvoorfa would have to give is Sahih Hadith by Bukhari and his gang. As you all can see that @genwoonvoorfa has tried to mislead the mankind by putting up incorrect translation of the Quran - People like @genwoonvoorfa mock the Quran because they learned from the bloody Mullahs and Muslim Ummah stands by.
@gewoonvoorfa2 - 31:6 "And of mankind is he who purchases Lahwal Hadith to mislead from the Path of Allah without knowledge, and takes it by way of mockery. For such there will be a humiliating torment". The Quran is telling you something here. Can you understand it?
“O you who believe! Take not for allies those who take your religion for a mockery and fun from among those who received the Scripture before you, nor from among the disbelievers; and fear Allah if you indeed are believers.” 5/57
@McChirkeen “Let not the believers take the disbelievers as allies instead of the believers, and whoever does that will never be helped by Allah in any way, except if you indeed fear a danger from them. And Allah warns you against Himself, and to Allah is the final return.” (Al-i Imran 3/28)
“Those who take the disbelievers for allies instead of the believers, do they seek honor power and glory with them? Verily, then to Allah belongs all honor power and glory.” (an-Nisa 4/139)
@McChirkeen That's what your doing, looking up to those kuffar, you want the dunya.. Allah gives the kuffar the dunya because he's All-Mercifull, you can't expect life without tests of hardship.. it's clear.. I was a Quranist once and now i'm Muslim again.. Quranism is shallow, empty and doesn't fill your life completely with Islam, in ISlam you have dua for everything for example, Quranism hasn't it's part time Islam, mixing it with western materialism, insha"Allah come back bro.. salam
@gewoonvoorfa2 - Quranist? What is a Quranist? someone who follows the Quran and only the Quran. I guess that puts me in the same class as Prophet Muhammad and his companions. Your retorts were at best childish. You made no point except that you are of mundane intelligence. Your response regarding GDP was below childish because you did not realize that India's GDP is half of all the muslim countries combined.
@McChirkeen Indeed in the Messenger of Allah (Muhammad SAW) you have a good example to follow for him who hopes in (the Meeting with) Allah and the Last Day and remembers Allah much. 33:21. they, like everyone does, took the Prophet as an example. Read your own comment back, your filled with pride and arrogance.. is that Islam? I didn't even call you one name and you think your intelligent and better.
And now you even choose polytheists (hindus) above the Muslims for the sake of materialism?
@gewoonvoorfa2 - 33:21 - Indeed in the Messenger of Allah a beautiful example for any one whose hope is in Allah and the Final Day, and who engages much in the Praise of Allah. So I guess you have resorted to incorrectly translating the Quran. When you don't know Arabic, learn it. Secondly, the Messenger of Allah followed the Quran so you do it too. Understood?
@McChirkeen There are different translations with the same meaning.. that's why the only real Quran is in Arabic but seeing as we are not speaking Arabic I used one of the translations and you used another.. so?
@McChirkeen All you did was call me names, rip Surahs out of context and interpretate them so it suits you best, if everybody would do that you would have a few million different ways of Islam, if not over a billion.
The rewards from Allah are not (always) in terms of material, Allah is All-Mercifull so he grants the kuffar good lives because there's no good hereafter for them, if you prefer dunya, take it.
What's worse you prefer the kuffar over Muslims and you claim to follow the Quran..
@McChirkeen And with that I believe we are done here.. You will probably say you beat me in a discussion and that I ran and all that but that doesn't bother me because this will go on for ever and all i'm trying to do is help you..
Calling other Muslims names, abandoning them for enemys of Islam, materialism is not the way of the Quran, Islam or the Prophet (saws)
I will not further respond to any reactions from you but you can always message me if you have any questions brother,
@McChirkeen You totally ignored the verses I gave you about allying with the kuffar against the Muslims by the way.. doesn't matter, I already know that you just pick what you like and reject what you don't like because of culture, materialism and surrounding, I was a Quranist myself..
Insha'Allah you'll one day see that this is not Islam and just a way to fit in in a fake, corrupting lifestyle, just look at Surah an-Nisa 4:139 I gave you.
@McChirkeen Read it on free-minds.. Pegged pretty good? You just repead the same Surah over and over again and assume it's about me but when you read the surah before and after it, it says it's about people who don't believe in the Hereafter who think Muhammed is a bewitched man (hence polytheists in his time) so could you please stop spreading lies brother?
It looks like you are the one with a shield around your mind because you still ignore the prefering kuffar over Muslim Surahs
There is no verse in the Holy Quraan that states - to shave or cut or trim ones beard is forbidden ( haraam ).
The man is using some tricky logic - by quoting one verse and linking it to a hadith ( for the detail of wot is forbidden ).
THIS IS WOT ALLAH SAYS
But say not - for any false thing that your tongues may put forth,- "This is lawful, and this is forbidden," so as to ascribe false things to Allah. For those who ascribe false things to Allah, will never prosper. (Al-Nahl 16:116)
@Arbleh ...and observeth proper worship and payeth the poor-due. And those who keep their treaty when they make one, and the patient in tribulation and adversity and time of stress. Such are they who are sincere. Such are the Allah-fearing." (Quran 2:177) Do not let the words of men lead you astray. Peace.
@Arbleh If you are unable to grow a beard, then this was Allah's will. Allah's words are to be found ONLY in the Quran. Seek guidance only from Him. "It is not righteousness that ye turn your faces to the East and the West; but righteous is he who believeth in Allah and the Last Day and the angels and the Scripture and the prophets; and giveth wealth, for love of Him, to kinsfolk and to orphans and the needy and the wayfarer and to those who ask, and to set slaves free...
@Arbleh - Salaams bro - ch; 2 v 111 - '' bring forth your proof - if ye are truthful'' - bro - u r under no obligation or duty to follow or believe in anyon'e statement as haqq ( being true ) unless they can produce proof.
Whatever Allah has forbidden, from his words in his book, to mankind - is wot is forbidden and not wot others say - without proof from quraan.
Below - is a verse to prove
66.1 O Prophet! why do you forbid (yourself) that which Allah has made lawful for you.
Just testing to see if my comments have to be approved. Ever pro-Muslim video I come across requires the comment to be approved first. I guess Muslims fear debate and dissent.
@McChirkeen "And whoever does not judge by what Allah has revealed - then it is those who are the disbelievers." 5:44 There's no point arguing with a person who believes some sheikh out there knows what God did not reveal.
@2angeline = I guess we can appreciate the struggle of Prophet Muhammad when we deal with these sort of people who sideline the Quran and call it "difficult to understand", "not enough details", "needs commentary" etc. I really can not believe that these Muslims who want to be good Muslims have an utter disregard for the Quran. They can not see that Sahih Hadith compilations are a type of SHIRK because it makes your worship the Prophet.
@zmsayed Which circumstances do you believe would justify this minimum requirement? And what in your opinion is the minimum requirement for the 21st century women? I would just like to know. Thank you.
So men are free to display their pecs, shoulders, biceps and abdomen? Is the Muslim male body not designed to be sexually attractive to women?! The Quran tells BOTH men and women to guard there modesty and to lower their gaze: Equal responsibility and mutual respect.
@simbakingston "And from the people, there are those who accept baseless narrations [lahwa alhadeethi] to mislead from the path of God without knowledge, and they take it as entertainment. These will have a humiliating retribution." Quran 31:6
"Shall I seek other than GOD as a source of law, when He has revealed to you this book fully detailed?" Quran 6:114
@simbakingston Ignorance is in the following stupid rules like growing a beard, it means absolutely nothing ! If your heart is evil and want you to through a stone at another man or insult him because he does not grow a beard will not make you a better man. Wake up! This stupid rule and all the energy spent wanting others to do the same is totally insane. How would want the Chinese grow beards...?
@2angeline i bet you dont know that by growing beard.the body would produce more testosteron.Everything we Muslim did has its benefit..try go make a research about it.dont simply comment on something you barely dont know. Fyi everthing occured in human life is mentioned in the Quran..Still dont believe ah ? try go find whether its true or not ..
Hi Brother, I'm commenting on your comment to another user. You said "i bet you dont know that by growing beard.the body would produce more testosteron.Everything we Muslim did has its benefit."
What you say is not scientifically true. What is true is that the testosterone is produced from the testes of every male, and it makes the beard grow. But more beard does not make the body produce more testosterone. Please correct your information. What you say is wrong scientifically.
@TIKUSHUTAN91 - What a bullshit reason. No wonder Muslims are in the gutter. With logic like that is it a wonder that Muslims are in an abyss of darkness.
@McChirkeen Muslims are in a abyss of darkness, the west isn't? 15% of the world population using up 75% percent of the worlds resources.. All you see is hangings in Shia Iran and suicide bombings but you just leave out the mass rape, drug abuse, suicide, alcohol abuse, crime, gangs, materialism that happens in the west at a MASSIVE scale? Yeah the west is really superiour when it comes to moral values, I guess it's evil for Muslims to want sharia in the west but America FORCING Democracy isn't?
@homebrewgod - even though it may seem funny to ask this question, it actually points out something so hideous in muslims today that they actually take these questions seriously. Nut sack is a better term. LOL
@chitrakuut dude u got like 50 comments on islam and not a single one on ur own religion lol i spose i wouldnt take it seriously either monkeys elephants snakes. i got a dog u can come and worship that if u want
"The prophet didn't invent it" ? Yes he did ! ... "Whatever the prophet orders is an order from Allah", No it isn't !!! Please will you people stop listening to these idiot preachers. These are deeply stupid human beings who have shut their brains off and decided to become mental slaves. If they told you it was God's will to fly a freakin plane into a building would you be dumb enough to do it ? So why be dumb enough to listen to them about what kind of beard you need to have ?
@zimtran007 Stop talking non-sense and mind your own business.
Allah says in the Noble Quran, surah dhariyat, verse 55. ''And remind, for indeed, the reminder benefits the believers''. So if you dont want to keep beards dont influence others with your lame excuses. Be considerate that Allah watches you for whatever you say. asalam aleikum
@MrTakeiteasy1 Allah didn't say anything in the Koran. It's just something that you muslims have made up in your heads. And I 'll say whatever I please thank you.
@MrTakeiteasy1 Allah or God or whatever word you want to use didn't send Mohammad or any other man with any special revelation to mankind. The Koran and the Bible and the Torah and all such books were written by men, not sent from heaven. Treat them merely as human literature, which is in fact what thy are. look, the koran is important as a piece of human literature, like Shakespeare or Homer's Iliad or any ancient work. But it was only written by men after all.
@MrTakeiteasy1 I'm sorry if this view offends you but I have to say what I think is the true. I cannot in good conscience lie to other human beings and tell them that any book written by men somehow fell from heaven or was dictated by God to some prophet because that is decieveing people into believing something that simply isn't true. Life is bigger than some simple hman authored book. If you really want to honor Allah then think for yourself instead of believing that.
@zimtran007 i did not know you are an atheist. Good to know that. Look at yourself, not once, but twice. That is enough sign that Allah is there, i dont want to go far. But i am sure you are denying me now, but when distress or sickness befalls you, you will always go back to Allah even though you deny Him now. Look at your body, millions of reactions taking place at the same time. Its just ridiculous to think that there is no God. I dont want to go far but that sign is itself enough. peace
@MrTakeiteasy1 You as a living sovereign human being are under no obligation to obey what some men wrote in a book centuries ago. You, your, life, and your mind are bigger than that. And it is a disservice to God to not acknowledge that your own human existence is not bound by what is written in acient books. Free yourself from such notions brother and fellow man.
@zimtran007 So you want to tell me that you follow Allah and not the prophet muhammad (SAW)? i hope thats not the case brother. The prophet muhammad saw is the walking Quran. And the ahadith supplements the Quran. Ahadith discuss the way the prophet followed the Quran. Its simple. If you want to follow Allah, you MUST follow the prophet because he is the guide to the mankind and through him the Allah revealed Quran to mankind. beard is wajib. asalam aleikum
@MrTakeiteasy1 Yes, follow God by looking into your own heart and conscience, not by treating some old book like the Koran like it was the word of God instead of simply just a book. That will cripple your mind. Choose for yourself if you want a beard or not, but do it because it's what YOU want to do, not because some preacher tells you that your must because the Koran says so.
@zimtran007 How can you follow God blindly?how can you pray to Him when you dont know the way you should pray?Thats why there is Islam to teach us that.This world is a test, a test to the entire mankind by Allah.If you think you are here for no reoson then you got it wrong, big time.We are here for a reoson, to worship God thats why it comes a time when we die and that entire thing you did in this world is looked upon by God. It will be a big mistake dying without knowing what you came here for
@MrTakeiteasy1 All men have a conscience and a mind. God has given them these things to use to know him. Islam does noty teach men any ultimate truths, they are required to seek these truths themselves, that is what life is for, not just accepting what preachers tell them, or what old books tell them. If you find truths in the Koran that's fine, no problem. But realize that you can always find truth in human literature, which is all that the Koran actually is, just human literature.
@zimtran007 I can see now you can come to my point that God is existing. That is how you should think and that is how any single human being should.
Ok about the human literature which you think that is what Quran tells us. The Quran tells us about different scientific facts such as the making of a child in the womb of the mother. Remember it was revealed 1400 years ago. At that time, there was no human literature on that issue. The Quran already had it. It will be insane to think that 1400 ago
@MrTakeiteasy1 Actually no, I think humans 1400 years ago were much much smarter than modern people give them credit for. I think that they knew many medical and scientific things that were rediscovered by later generation. For what it's worth, your ancesters were smart enough to understand all about human births and smart enough to write books like the Koran. This should give you courage that you come from a race both ancient and intelligent.
@zimtran007 They might be smarter, but they did not have the modern equipments. And with all the intelligence and smartness to know the shape of the earth for example, is absolutely IMPOSSIBLE. to know that earth not only rotates, but does revolution is also insane. Thats not possible., and as i said before, no one can produce the like of it, whether you like it or not.
@MrTakeiteasy1 Yes, humans did in fact write the Koran, it had merely human authors. And in fact Ptolemy measured the diameter of the earth to within 5% accuracy 450 years before the Koran was written. You can look it up it's true. He knew that the earth was a sphere and a tiny body compared to the extent of the heavens four hundred and fifty years before Mohammed was born.
@zimtran007 is it 450 years before or 450 years before the prophet muhammad (pbuh) was born? which is which? you are contradicting yourself. you are trying to look for a escape door but the fact will remain that islam is the true religion, Quran is the book to be followed and thats about that
@MrTakeiteasy1 Look up Ptolemy on the web if you don't believe me, which you shouldn't, you should research these things yourself. He lived from AD 90 to AD 168. Mohammed lived from AD 570 – AD 622. You do the math. So by my calculations Ptolemmy was born 480 years before Mohammed. And Ptolemy knew all about those astronomical fact that you mentioned that only the Koran relieved to men. So what did men need the Koran to tell them these things for ?
@zimtran007 Let me tell you one thing brother. When i start talking about the miracles of Quran just in scientific nature then they are just too many to count. Ptolemy speculated, he NEVER measured anything. he did not use any equipment. You are speculating just like him. get your facts right
@MrTakeiteasy1 Yes Ptolemy did in fact make the measurements of the circumfrerence of the earth aprox 450 years before Mohammed was born. You need to give our human ancesters more credit for their intelligence than you are. His measurements were very scientific for the time. He was Egyptian. The Egyptians built the pyramids thousand of years before Mohammed, The greeks built the parthenon in 447 BC almost a thousand years before Mohammed was born and it's still standing today.
@zimtran007 He speculated, he never measured. that remains as philosophical speculation. go and read it properly, internet is not something you should take evrything from. Read books and educate yourself. I have a full file of the Qurans and sunnahs miracles. I will send it to you to educate yourself properly. Some other things need some education, not just finding it directly from the net
@MrTakeiteasy1 I am properly educated sir I assure you. And I have already read the Koran. I read it as a work of men, which it is. If the truth that the koran is simply a work of men with human authors is something that you find too disturbing to consider then fine. But it is fear of considering that it is just a work of men that is at the root of your resistence to the idea. You have been mis-taught to believe that it is the word of Allah. But this is not the truth.
@zimtran007 Then with all your knowledge, you are still deprived of lack of intelligence. Intelligence doesnt necessarily mean being a scientist or equivalent. Intelligence is an all round commodity. You might be educated but you lack intelligence of my friend. Because anyone who denies the Quran is just not intelligent. when you die,
@zimtran007 and of course you will, then with all your knowledge, you are going to leave it here. You will be going to your Lord. With all your education, if you die a non believer, there will be nothing to answer him. So think hard, its your life. And Allah knows best
@MrTakeiteasy1 Again, I don't seem to be getting though to you. I never said that I didn't believe in God or that I was an atheist. I said that i didn't believe that Mohammad or anyother man in history was God's prophet or that any book written by men (which includes all books ever written) was the word of God. If you want to believe in God I have no problem with that. God is an interesting idea, but you don't need to look for him in the koran or assume it's God's word.
@zimtran007 where do you want us to look for Him? in the sky like your friend ptolemy? Quran is an evidence that God exists. Without it how will we know that he does exist? Dont tell me human conscience. Human conscience knows only how to say that life came about BING BANG and other theories.
@MrTakeiteasy1 The world, reality, your fellow human beings, your wonderful children, your adoring parents, your friends, your conscience and your own sense of good and evil, the beautiful sunsets and bright stars above at night, the trees, the oceans, and the wonders of nature, all of creation, this is God's relevation to us. Not some book alone, ... to believe that is to sell God short. Worse, it allows the opinions of others to become your sole source of revelation.
@zimtran007 All what you said is just fantastic. All what you say is still mentioned in the Quran in a beautiful way. Your statement enough shows the blessing Allah gave you. Unfortunately you cannot realize it. But from the Quran we find your situation again. As for him whom God allows to go astray you will not find a way.
@MrTakeiteasy1 Again, and I cannot repeat this enough. The Koran was written by men. Men like us, with the same thoughts as us. So it only makes sense that it should sound like it came from humans, which it does. I am not astry at all on this, you are I must kindly say if you believe it was somehow dictated by god and not merely written by men like you then it is you sir who are astray.
@zimtran007 And I'm sorry but God or Allah never told men that they have to wear a beard or how to dress themselves. Nonsense like that has to go. It makes people crazy all these stupid idiotic rules.
@mbksold I still think the quran was written by human beings. In fact I know that it was. Common sense (for those humans who have it) is all that is needed to tell us this.
@zimtran007 Islam is the truth, Allah is the only God, Muhammed is the final messenger of God and the quran is a miracle sent down to the last prophet, SNM!
@zimtran007 EVERYBODY!!! this guy is a NUTTER!!!! don't listen to this brainwashed homo, who thinks his to clever with his fake account. He is a bored pathetic Fool!!!!
@riazxfiles I completely agreed with you riazxfiles, Abdur Raheem Green is a complete nutter. I'm not sure if green is a homo (though he does wear a dress instead of pants like men do). I also think as you do that Greene's self brainwashing in Islam is rather pathetic, a mind is a terrible thing to waste.
@riazxfiles Look there is no reason to go calling Mr. Abdur Raheem Green a 'homo', even I wouldn't do that though I disagree with him on just about everything. So now I have to step up and defend Mr. Green and say that you calling Abdur Raheem Green a homo is not right riazxfiles.
@zimtran007 listen I fully support what Abdur Green is saying as he is very knowledgeable in the Deen, in fact he is one of my favorite lecturer to listen to,
I am no longer going to respond to your little insults, Islam is the fastest growing religion in the world believe it or not! SNM!
and for the record you (zimtran007) are a diseased homo looking for attention! =)
@riazxfiles Listen, for the last time, your have no right to call Abdur Raheem Green a diseased homo. That's going too far ! Even if you disagree with the speaker in the video your should refrain from calling Mr. Green names. Islam is the fastest shrinking religion in the world, everyone is leaving it. In fact it's not even a religion, it's a cult that imprisons people in nonsense and impairs their ability to think for themselves and take command of their own lives without apologies.
@riazxfiles And the space aliens from the planet Zeta Reticuli have given the Incas the magic stone of inner wisdom with which to bring peace and harmony to the world in 2012. ... Does that sentence sound plausible to you ? Well, that's how what you just said sounds to me.
@MrTakeiteasy1 look If I can come up with that out of my own mind then so can any man at any time. Which is another proof that the koran was written by men and not by God. God creates stars and oceans not books ! There is nothing to realize about the koran except that it is a piece of human literature, not the word of God. All books are human creations. God did not allow me to go astry and I am not astray in any way. I'm right about this.
@MrTakeiteasy1 The Quran is not evidence that God exists at all. It's only evidence that men can write. Creation itself is evidence that God exists if you wish. Nothing else will do.
@MrTakeiteasy1 The greeks used complex mathematiics to construct the parthenon, they didn't get this geometric knowledge from the Koran, because the Koran would not be even be written yet for another ten centuries. Ptolemy did in fact to those astronomical measurements, he didn't need the Koran to do them because the Koran didn't even exist then. I'm sorry if these historical facts frighten you sir but you need to face the truth. The Koran is just another work of men.
@MrTakeiteasy1 No I'm sorry all your logic is nonsense. The real issue here is that your mind is stuck in a belief system that the Koran is the word of God, which it isn't. And something in you fears to question that belief system because you have been so attached to it for much of your life. But you don't need ti. You really would be freer without it.
@zimtran007 i dont need it, WE NEED IT. Live that life of yours of speculation, but that would never save you from the punishment of Allah when you die as a disbeliever. Think about your life, its yours, you need God, with your all human conscience belief which is of no fact but pure speculation. So before opening your mouth, try and get your facts right.
Sometimes this newly learned lecturers want to learn more than necessary. this lecturer doesnt know the difference between sunnah and fard!!! but his rest of the speech was ok!!!
CaptainHook1971 2 months ago
@CaptainHook1971 what are you talking about he is way more knowledgeable than you and he is not a newly learned lecturer and he is correct it is fard
unique10303 1 month ago
@unique10303 @unique10303 Growing beard is one of the most important Sunnah of the Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) !!! may be mr. green is more learned than me but u cant say that learned people dont make mistakes!!! i can show u many faults of peace TV lecturers and other muslim Lecturers with the proof of Islam!! but i wont becos i should not find my other Muslim brother's fault;
CaptainHook1971 1 month ago
@CaptainHook1971 if i do that Allah will find mine!!! if i could meet u face to face i could say u why i said he was wrong!! anyway there is no need to argue more !!! May Allah remove all our misconceptions!!
CaptainHook1971 1 month ago
@CaptainHook1971 inshallah asalmul alaikum
unique10303 1 month ago
@unique10303(this is the rest of the message) if i do that Allah will find mine!!! if i could meet u face to face i could say u why i said he was wrong!! anyway there is no need to argue more !!! May Allah remove all our misconceptions!!
CaptainHook1971 1 month ago
MASHA ALLAH....NICE VIEWS BY THIS MUSLIM BROTHER,WHO RESEMBLES WITH THE PICS OF PROPHET JESUS (PBUH).....I LOVE HIM FROM THE CORE OF MY HEART...SIKHS ARE BETTER THAN US THEIR GURU NANAK ASKED THEM NOT TO SHAVE ANY HAIR.THEY WILL OBEY HIM UNLIKE US.THEIR UNIFORMS WILL CHANGE BUT THEY WILL NEVER CHANGE....THEY ARE MORE TRUE IN THEIR LOVE,WHEREAS WE ARE NOT....LATE MAULANA MAUDOODI (RA) HAD MADE THIS COMPARISON IN ONE OF HIS BOOKS,WHICH FORCED ME TO KEEP BEARD THE SAME DAY.MAY ALLAH BLESS HIS SOUL
haqkahan 5 months ago
@haqkahan ....INSHA ALLAH MANY MUSLIM BROTHERS WILL KEEP BEARD ON READING THESE LINES....I AM ANXIOUSLY AWAITING THOSE SPIRITED BROTHERS WHO WILL STOP SHAVING JUST NOW....? I SHALL PRAY FOR THEM SO THAT THEY MAY SEE OUR BELOVED PROPHET (PBUH) IN DREAM.....WITH A BEAUTIFUL LONG BEARD,AMEN........PLEASE SHOW SOME DETERMINATION AND LOOK LIKE A TRUE MUSLIM.....IN THIS HOLY MONTH OF RAMAZAN......MAKE YOUR ALLAH HAPPY TODAY....THIS IS THE TIME TO CHANGE & CHANGE FOR EVER......MAY ALLAH HELP US ALL..
haqkahan 5 months ago
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@haqkahan Allah does not command anyone to have a beard, If he did it would be in the Quran.
TheDesiBloke 2 months ago
'beard sir?'
'How much?'
'50 shekels'
'done'
'No no no - you're supposed to haggle!' Monty Python couldn't even compete with this superstitious rubbish. Allah must be pretty shallow if her concern is whether a man shaves or not.
simonm7133 5 months ago
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tigersforchrist 6 months ago
Mr Green - that is a particularly shabby beard you have . You would look much better with a clean shave. I do like your hair though. You have obviously been to a good hair stylist. As a suggestion perhaps some tinting next time ?
jontibloom 6 months ago
only ali amirolmomenin
abubakr ,omar ,osma ,ayasha ,talha , zobir are kafar acording to sahih moslem and bokhari ,also in quran surrah monafighin , ahzab , tahrim and ..........
rahimijoon 8 months ago
HADIS SAGHALANE rasollah said after me my omma divided to 73 branches ,only one gorup go to heven , which group you are belong to?
then rasullah said ,those who follow quran and my 12 imam ,you know only shia follow muhammad(pbh) ,we are real sunna not you
you are folowing OMAR ONLY you do not even follow quran , i can prove it ,
1-you wash your feet for salat , it is not in quran
2- nodbah was halal but omar chaged it to haram
i have soo many prove from sunnah books that 3 kalifah kafar
rahimijoon 8 months ago
@rahimijoon
Sorry it took so long... xD
Brother, the Hadith said that those who follow the Quran and my Sunnah will be right. Both the Quran and the Prophet's Sunnah were narrated to us through the Sahaba, those you claim were Kafir. If they were not Muslim, they would surely have corrupted both, and no Muslim would know what to believe in or do.
Brother, you cannot have it both ways. If the Sahaba were wrongdoers, then there is reason to doubt Islam. If Islam is pure, the Sahaba were also pure
icedudefromZetaR 7 months ago
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it is quran saying (those who scapes from wars are kafar)you know abubakr omar osman scaped from holy wars of OHOD ,KHAIBAR ,HANIN ....)all sunnah book tell about these 3 khalifa scaped from wars
please read SURRAH TAHRIM aya 1 2 3 4 5 god is talking about HASBA AND AYESHA prove is in SAHIH MUSLEM & BOKHARI omar said surrah tahrim is about hasba & ayesha
rahimijoon 8 months ago
it is quran saying (those who scpeps from wars are kafar)you know abubakr omar osman scaped from holy wars of OHOD ,KHAIBAR ,HANIN ....)all sunnah book tell about these 3 khalifa scaped from wars
please read SURRAH TAHRIM aya 1 2 3 4 5 god is talking about HASBA AND AYESHA prove is in SAHIH MUSLEM & BOKHARI omar said surrah tahrim is about hasba & ayesha
rahimijoon 8 months ago
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no shia muslem said ali(as) can save the world , we say if all muslems follow imam ali ,this world will be peacful world,if you read NAHJOLBLAGHEH ,you will find out why
you can not find one world that OMAR OSMAN ABUBAKR said that benefit humaneties ,i read all sunnah book ,there are more prove that your 3 KHALIFAH
were KAFAR and moshrek
rahimijoon 8 months ago
no shia muslem said ali(as) can save the world , we say if all muslems follow imam ali ,this world will be peacful world,if you read NAHJOLBLAGHEH ,you will find out why
you can not find one world that OMAR OSMAN ABUBAKR said that benefit humaneties ,i read all sunnah book ,there are more prove that your 3 KHALIFAH
were KAFAR than muslem.
rahimijoon 8 months ago
@rahimijoon
A Muslim is a person who believes in the 6 Articles of Faith, and who follows the 5 obligatory acts of worship. If you do those things, you are Muslim. I am sure that Omar (ra), Uthman (ra) and Abu Bakr all were Muslim. Remember what the prophet (saws) said, that if a Muslim claims that another Muslim is a kuffar, then at least one of them is. Do you understand what this means? If you claim a person is a kuffar, then either he is, and you are speaking the truth, or YOU are a kuffar!
icedudefromZetaR 8 months ago
@rahimijoon
NEVER say such a thing, because it could take you out of the fold of Islam!
icedudefromZetaR 8 months ago
Growing a beard means absolutely nothing at all if your purpose is evil...It will not make you a better man whatever Muhammad told you to do....
jdemeulenaer123 8 months ago
first person to admit that? what?? xD
FMAiscool 9 months ago
@2angeline. Brother/sister, it is not like that. It is compulsory for men to cover their body from naval to knee.
karthikayaan 9 months ago
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JAHIL WHAHBI AND TALIBAN REMEMBERER TRUE ALWAYS NOT SO TESTY AS YOUR MOVIA AND HIS SUN yAZID DID IN PAST YOU DOING SAME,,,U IDIOT PARTY LISTEN IN ALL PAKISTAN MORE THEN 1000 OF SCHOOL UR GRAND FATHER TALIBAN PUT BOMB THERE AND BLAST WHO KILL IN THESE BLAST ALL CHILDREN THE WANT U MAKE JAHIL . BANI FIT OF THIS WHAHBI U CAN USE JAHIL PEOPLE FOR UR MISSION WHO BLAST BOMB IN MARKET ,MASJID, JULUS ,AND U LOVE mOVIA .FATHER OF yAZID THE DESTRODE ISLAM....
67mrfarooq 9 months ago
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abobakr ,omar, osman, ayesheh ,abusofyan, yazid, moaveyeh, sadam hossin, ghadafi ,al saud, mobarak, taleban all are same all lanatollah .
only ALI AMIROLMOMENIN can save this world.
rahimijoon 10 months ago
@rahimijoon hmmmmmmmmm and how is Ali (ra) going to save this world exactly??? lanatollah alaik enta.
nahed651010 8 months ago
Beards are for cunts. This guy is proof.
oldstock1607 10 months ago
@oldstock1607 In that case, i take it that you have a beard then????? Ignorant tool.....!!!!
nahed651010 8 months ago 2
Assholes like this mr.green are worse than ethnic muslims. Why do not muslim men grow a flap of skin to cover their eyes.?Then the muslim women coluld burn their hijabs, burkas and niquabs. P& SBUH
alcina5 11 months ago
@alcina5 There is no such thing as an ethnic Muslim.
jihadifanclub 10 months ago
@alcina5 wat ????? r u a muslim ??? nd why do u call Green as asshole, dumb ass !!!!!
simbakingston 9 months ago
keeping-beard-is-exectely fard. i am with shaikh
abraham51953 11 months ago
Can i just say what is said is 100% wrong. Prophet Mohammed (s.a.w.s) did not order men to grow there bear (as only Allah has the power to do such a thing) prophet Mohammed (s.a.w.s) order men not to shave their beards.
neptha2 11 months ago
@neptha2 Do you believe Muhammad would disobey Allah and order his own prohibitions?
(Quran 7:203-4) Allah commands Muhammad to say that he cannot bring any revelation other than Allah's Quran. Muhammad followed only the Quran and there is no command therein to keep a beard of any sort. Peace.
2angeline 11 months ago
@2angeline srry my brother but yet again i find my self arguing with a person who either cannot read or is overwhelmed by his ignorance. First things first, plzz do not Quote the quran in english, in my opion and opinion of many scholars that is consider wrong. Second thing, if you truly believe mohammed (s.a.w.s) order men to grow their beards. You are insinuating mohammed (s.a.w.s) commanded men to take the role of Allah, which is shirk (biggest sin a human can do).so plz be careful!!
neptha2 11 months ago
@neptha2 I believe you need to read my comment again. Because you seem to be agreeing with me. And I have not quoted Quran 7:203-4 in English. Please provide your understanding of the verses from it's original Arabic, if you wish to be taken seriously.
2angeline 11 months ago
@2angeline First things first you did Quote the quran in english (dont say otherwise). Second thing, in the quran as accoridng to most scholar's transilation, as a muslim you are commanded to obey mohammed (s.a.w.s). wat he says is like what God says (becuase mohammed is being instructed by angel gabriel). So to disobey his comand of allowing the bear to grow as God's will(as he instructed muslim to do whe he was alive)is to to disobey Allah him self.
neptha2 11 months ago
@neptha2 If I was quoting, I would have placed the words in between inverted commas. I provided my understanding of the verses as well as the reference so that everyone can look it up. you claim it is wrong but provide no quotes to discredit it.
Please explain Quran 7:203-4
2angeline 11 months ago
@2angeline ill do you a better thing than a quote ill give a link with a quote and an explination. Brother belive i once was ignorant like your self. i thought mohammed (s.a.w.s) did not follow hadith and followed the quran and revilved the quran. But as one great women said (wife of mohammed s.a.w.s) if you wana see a walking quran look at mohammed. watch?v=aSoLFBFI1lk&feature=related.
neptha2 11 months ago
@2angeline All i have to say to all that you have been saying to me is 'ignorance is bliss' my friend!!!
neptha2 11 months ago
@zmsayed - And where did you get that gem of guidance from? Sahabah rode horses, so I better not see you sitting a motorized vehicle. Sahabah wore robes, so you better take off your pants and put on the robes.
As long as Muslims like yourself rely on Shaykhs to give you an answer, the Muslim Ummah will stay in the gutter like it is today. History shows that as long as Christians did the same thing they were in the gutter. So learn from their mistakes and their successes.
McChirkeen 11 months ago
@zmsayed - Does it not occur to you that Quran is the guideline that we are suppose to follow. Why is that so difficult for you accept. We are not living in the times of the sahabah or do you not realize that. We are living in OUR time and we need our guidelines which fit OUR world. It just so happen that the Quran provides those guidelines in full detail.
McChirkeen 11 months ago 8
@McChirkeen Yeah, another Quran only guy.. I used to be one untill I realised that I had to change myself.. not change Islam.
Islam has guidelines for OUR time and OUR world, what your trying to do is adjust Islam to so called ''western civilized'' standards.. Yes the west is so superiour, rape, crime, zina, clubs, alcohol, murder, materialism etc etc..
Maybe you should stick to the lifestyle Allah decided for us and not trying to adjust is to a MAN MADE lifestyle combined with Islam
gewoonvoorfa2 7 months ago
@gewoonvoorfa2 - You used to be Quran only guy????? If you were you would have known that Quran is the only guidance for us because it says so in the Quran. So I guess you just lied to make your point which would be successful if you were addressing a village idiot which I am not. Allah decided for us the lifestyle as mandated in the Quran, I guess you don't know that either. How deplorable!!!!!!
McChirkeen 7 months ago
@McChirkeen I lied? Oh right, that's because when you become a Quranist there is just no possible way whatshowever to revert back to Islam..
Stop deceiving yourself brother.. come back to Islam.. The Quran says to follow Allah and the prophet, it makes distinction between the two. (Surah an-nisaa 4:59). It's clear but the shaitan wants you to follow this corrupted lifestyle that the west teaches.. the west is not superiour.. obviously, western society is chaos and you know it..
gewoonvoorfa2 7 months ago
@gewoonvoorfa2 - the deceit is in your mind. You have left Islam and now belong to a Cult which keeps beards and thinks that is religion. How asinine.
McChirkeen 7 months ago
@McChirkeen So the Prophet(saws) shaved? In your opinion Muslims are astray for the past 1200 years and the real Islam came back up about 20(?) years or so.. does that mean billions of people will go to hell? Islam hasn't been around for 1200 years and only a select group of I guess not even a million people follow ''real'' Islam, chosen few.. sounds like Judaism.
You just mix Islam with western culture for your own benefits..
Don't corrupt yourself with this fake materialistic lifestyle
gewoonvoorfa2 7 months ago
@gewoonvoorfa2 = The best way to judge the merits of a philosophy is to consider the outcome of its application. What Muslims have practiced for the last 1200 years is the Islam according to Bukhari and his gang of Persian Zoroastrians who conjured up the so called Sahih Hadith. Furthermore, the Muslims have abandoned and disabled he Quran from their lives. The result is the gutter that they are in now. The Muslims can get out the gutter if accept Quran as the only guidance.
McChirkeen 7 months ago
@McChirkeen Abandoned the Quran? Millions of people memorised the Quran and read it everyday.. Islam can't excist without the Quran, so can't the hadith.. first of all the so called gutter is based on what you see on CNN and other western media that don't show the real Middle East.. second of all, it's not because they abandoned the Quran, it's because they've abondoned the Quran and Sunnah and live according do the dunya, just like you, you want the dunya without hardship and part-time Islam
gewoonvoorfa2 7 months ago
@gewoonvoorfa2 - memorizing or reading the Quran is not same as understanding the Quran. I am surprised that you could not figure that out. The hadith is totally manufactured conjecture and it stands with or without Quran. The gutter I am referring to is that of ignorance and illiteracy. So in the 57 muslims countries how many institute of higher learning do you have that are among the top 100 in the world. Do you have a single institute which can come close to the Indian Inst of Tech.
McChirkeen 7 months ago
@McChirkeen What? Do you actually know how many people learn Arabic to understand the Quran? It doesn't stand without Quran because hadith goes deeper into the Suras of the Quran. Higher learning? Who makes up those lists, western universities?
gewoonvoorfa2 7 months ago
@gewoonvoorfa2 - Why don't we compare the aggregate GDP of Muslim countries (less than $2 trillion) to that of England ($2.3 trillion) which is a tiny island. It is YOU who have abandoned the Quran because you follow something called Hadith and Sunnah which has nothing to do with the Prophet. It was manufactured by the Persians 1200 years ago (that is 200 yrs after the Prophet) and propagated by the Abbasides and imposed on the Muslims. You don't even know your own history.
McChirkeen 7 months ago
@McChirkeen GDP? haha did you forget people make less money and everything is cheaper in those countries? It isn't manufactured.. it's carefully preserved trough reliable people..
gewoonvoorfa2 7 months ago
@gewoonvoorfa2 - 17:46 is about people like You. "We place shields around their minds, to prevent them from understanding it, and deafness in their ears. And when you preach your Lord, using the Quran alone, they run away in aversion." - 25:30 is talking about You as well. "Then the Messenger will say: "O my Lord! Truly my people have disabled this Qur’an making it of no account."
McChirkeen 7 months ago
@McChirkeen no it isn't.. you just made that up.. who are you to decide what Allah means in the Quran, bold statements.. you totally ripped the translation. 31:6 And of mankind is he who purchases idle talks (i.e. music, singing, etc.) to mislead (men) from the path of Allah without knowledge, and takes it (the path of Allah, the Verses of the Quran) by wat of mockery. For such there wil be a humiliating torment (in the Hell-fire)
gewoonvoorfa2 7 months ago
@gewoonvoorfa2 - Since your mind is shut and you don't have the knowledge of Quran, I will explain your comment so others may benefit.
31: 6 - Wamina alnnasi man yashtaree lahwa alhadeethi liyudilla AAan sabeeli Allahi bighayri AAilmin wayattakhithaha huzuwan olaika lahum AAathabun muheenun
Lahwa alhadeethi = baseless hadith - NOT singing and music. The word hadeeth is used in Quran in many places and each time it signifies that Quran is the only valid "hadeeth" and rest is conjecture.
McChirkeen 7 months ago
@McChirkeen Yes, I remember saying to eveybody ''you have no knowledge of the Quran'' to people in my days of ignorance.. But now I realise that reading a few internet websites, reading translations and having no knowledge of the Arabic language isn't knowledge compared to people who did years of study and can memorise it back to forth with the meaning of the words...
You just asume that the word hadith only means hadith like that of bukhari and Muslim, but it doesn't..
gewoonvoorfa2 7 months ago
@gewoonvoorfa2 - As I explained in my previous comment that hadeeth is used on Quran in numerous places.
7:185 Awalam yanthuroo fee malakooti alssamawati waalardi wama khalaqa Allahu min shayin waan AAasa an yakoona qadi iqtaraba ajaluhum fabiayyi hadeethin baAAdahu yuminoona
Do they see nothing in the government of the heavens and the earth and all that Allah has created? it may well be that their terms is nigh drawing to an end? In what hadeeth after this will they then believe?
McChirkeen 7 months ago
@McChirkeen Again, you misuse the words over here.. it simply means the litteral translation of the word hadith which is statement..
Let's assume your right and the Muslims are wrong ok? At least they follow bits of the Quran which is better than taking Jesus as a god, or polytheism for that.. why would Allah reward the non-believers more then people who follow his True Scripture and reward the enemy's of it?
Makes no sense.. you don't understand the concept of rewards from Allah at all..
gewoonvoorfa2 7 months ago
@McChirkeen They shaitan makes you think your superiour, intelligent, better. He made you arrogant and makes your enemy Muslims instead of the west who invades, kills and destroys... You look up to them, look at the Surah I gave you about taking them as allies and trying to gain respect and reward with hem.. All for the sake of a little materialism in the Dunya.
The reward is after you die, not in terms of GDP brother, the kuffar get rewarded in material because Allah is mercifull..
gewoonvoorfa2 7 months ago
@gewoonvoorfa2 - As I said, my comments are not for you. You are not able to grasp the concept of what it means to be 1.4 billion with 57 countries and don't have a single country with a legitimate democracy, decent level of education, social welfare programs that treat people equally, provide an environment conducive for investment and economic growth and basic respect for the people. Your philosophy is actually a defeatist one and totally against the philosophy of the Quran.
McChirkeen 7 months ago
@McChirkeen And you prefer this fake democracy.. I know kafirs who admit it's all stage and that the people don't have a voice.. Welfare, we have something called Zakat in the Islamic world in case you forgot but if you like countries that are ''conductive for investment'' like the USA with a loan debt of $14.66 trillion and no social security be my guest, women make less money then men but their equal? I advise you to actually visit an Islamic country instead of having a CNN worldview :)
gewoonvoorfa2 7 months ago
@gewoonvoorfa2 - do you really want me to expose the 57 or so Muslim countries and what goes on there? Would you like for the record tell everyone here where do you live. Why don't you take your hadith based Islam to some Muslim country where they would appreciate you.
McChirkeen 7 months ago
@McChirkeen You claim to follow the prophet and you think he shaved, held elections for a prime minister, and prayed 3 times a day just saying random stuff from the Quran? Oh, and alcohol was halal ofcourse so they'd meet in a pub every weekend.. Astagfirullah
Compare the conquerings of Khālid ibn al-Walīd with warfare in the Quran, he fought under the Prophet, Omar and Abu Bakr, so they all acted outside of the Quran?
Makes no sense..
gewoonvoorfa2 7 months ago
@gewoonvoorfa2 - Random stuff from the Quran? Are you for real? You have no control over your thoughts do you? Then again Quran already predicted about people like you in 17:46 - "We place shields around their minds, to prevent them from understanding it, and deafness in their ears. And when you preach your Lord, using the Quran alone, they run away in aversion."
Got your pegged pretty good here. And how did alcohol become halal? where did you read that?
McChirkeen 7 months ago
@gewoonvoorfa2 - So the Quran is asking in 7:185 "....In what hadeeth after this will they then believe?" So what is the answer? I believe the answer that people like @gewoonvoorfa would have to give is Sahih Hadith by Bukhari and his gang. As you all can see that @genwoonvoorfa has tried to mislead the mankind by putting up incorrect translation of the Quran - People like @genwoonvoorfa mock the Quran because they learned from the bloody Mullahs and Muslim Ummah stands by.
McChirkeen 7 months ago
@gewoonvoorfa2 - 31:6 "And of mankind is he who purchases Lahwal Hadith to mislead from the Path of Allah without knowledge, and takes it by way of mockery. For such there will be a humiliating torment". The Quran is telling you something here. Can you understand it?
McChirkeen 7 months ago
@McChirkeen And now some suras for you...
“O you who believe! Take not for allies those who take your religion for a mockery and fun from among those who received the Scripture before you, nor from among the disbelievers; and fear Allah if you indeed are believers.” 5/57
gewoonvoorfa2 7 months ago
@McChirkeen “Let not the believers take the disbelievers as allies instead of the believers, and whoever does that will never be helped by Allah in any way, except if you indeed fear a danger from them. And Allah warns you against Himself, and to Allah is the final return.” (Al-i Imran 3/28)
“Those who take the disbelievers for allies instead of the believers, do they seek honor power and glory with them? Verily, then to Allah belongs all honor power and glory.” (an-Nisa 4/139)
gewoonvoorfa2 7 months ago
@McChirkeen That's what your doing, looking up to those kuffar, you want the dunya.. Allah gives the kuffar the dunya because he's All-Mercifull, you can't expect life without tests of hardship.. it's clear.. I was a Quranist once and now i'm Muslim again.. Quranism is shallow, empty and doesn't fill your life completely with Islam, in ISlam you have dua for everything for example, Quranism hasn't it's part time Islam, mixing it with western materialism, insha"Allah come back bro.. salam
gewoonvoorfa2 7 months ago
@gewoonvoorfa2 - Quranist? What is a Quranist? someone who follows the Quran and only the Quran. I guess that puts me in the same class as Prophet Muhammad and his companions. Your retorts were at best childish. You made no point except that you are of mundane intelligence. Your response regarding GDP was below childish because you did not realize that India's GDP is half of all the muslim countries combined.
McChirkeen 7 months ago
@McChirkeen Indeed in the Messenger of Allah (Muhammad SAW) you have a good example to follow for him who hopes in (the Meeting with) Allah and the Last Day and remembers Allah much. 33:21. they, like everyone does, took the Prophet as an example. Read your own comment back, your filled with pride and arrogance.. is that Islam? I didn't even call you one name and you think your intelligent and better.
And now you even choose polytheists (hindus) above the Muslims for the sake of materialism?
gewoonvoorfa2 7 months ago
@gewoonvoorfa2 - 33:21 - Indeed in the Messenger of Allah a beautiful example for any one whose hope is in Allah and the Final Day, and who engages much in the Praise of Allah. So I guess you have resorted to incorrectly translating the Quran. When you don't know Arabic, learn it. Secondly, the Messenger of Allah followed the Quran so you do it too. Understood?
McChirkeen 7 months ago
@McChirkeen There are different translations with the same meaning.. that's why the only real Quran is in Arabic but seeing as we are not speaking Arabic I used one of the translations and you used another.. so?
gewoonvoorfa2 7 months ago
@McChirkeen All you did was call me names, rip Surahs out of context and interpretate them so it suits you best, if everybody would do that you would have a few million different ways of Islam, if not over a billion.
The rewards from Allah are not (always) in terms of material, Allah is All-Mercifull so he grants the kuffar good lives because there's no good hereafter for them, if you prefer dunya, take it.
What's worse you prefer the kuffar over Muslims and you claim to follow the Quran..
gewoonvoorfa2 7 months ago
@McChirkeen And with that I believe we are done here.. You will probably say you beat me in a discussion and that I ran and all that but that doesn't bother me because this will go on for ever and all i'm trying to do is help you..
Calling other Muslims names, abandoning them for enemys of Islam, materialism is not the way of the Quran, Islam or the Prophet (saws)
I will not further respond to any reactions from you but you can always message me if you have any questions brother,
Salam
gewoonvoorfa2 7 months ago
@McChirkeen You totally ignored the verses I gave you about allying with the kuffar against the Muslims by the way.. doesn't matter, I already know that you just pick what you like and reject what you don't like because of culture, materialism and surrounding, I was a Quranist myself..
Insha'Allah you'll one day see that this is not Islam and just a way to fit in in a fake, corrupting lifestyle, just look at Surah an-Nisa 4:139 I gave you.
I'll make dua for you brother,
Salam Alaikoem
gewoonvoorfa2 7 months ago
@McChirkeen Read it on free-minds.. Pegged pretty good? You just repead the same Surah over and over again and assume it's about me but when you read the surah before and after it, it says it's about people who don't believe in the Hereafter who think Muhammed is a bewitched man (hence polytheists in his time) so could you please stop spreading lies brother?
It looks like you are the one with a shield around your mind because you still ignore the prefering kuffar over Muslim Surahs
gewoonvoorfa2 7 months ago
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azx100ful 11 months ago
There is no verse in the Holy Quraan that states - to shave or cut or trim ones beard is forbidden ( haraam ).
The man is using some tricky logic - by quoting one verse and linking it to a hadith ( for the detail of wot is forbidden ).
THIS IS WOT ALLAH SAYS
But say not - for any false thing that your tongues may put forth,- "This is lawful, and this is forbidden," so as to ascribe false things to Allah. For those who ascribe false things to Allah, will never prosper. (Al-Nahl 16:116)
bluesnsoulful 1 year ago
Just a question and plz advise,im a muslim,how about if im unable to grow a beard?
Arbleh 1 year ago
@Arbleh ...and observeth proper worship and payeth the poor-due. And those who keep their treaty when they make one, and the patient in tribulation and adversity and time of stress. Such are they who are sincere. Such are the Allah-fearing." (Quran 2:177) Do not let the words of men lead you astray. Peace.
2angeline 1 year ago
@Arbleh If you are unable to grow a beard, then this was Allah's will. Allah's words are to be found ONLY in the Quran. Seek guidance only from Him. "It is not righteousness that ye turn your faces to the East and the West; but righteous is he who believeth in Allah and the Last Day and the angels and the Scripture and the prophets; and giveth wealth, for love of Him, to kinsfolk and to orphans and the needy and the wayfarer and to those who ask, and to set slaves free...
2angeline 1 year ago
@Arbleh - Salaams bro - ch; 2 v 111 - '' bring forth your proof - if ye are truthful'' - bro - u r under no obligation or duty to follow or believe in anyon'e statement as haqq ( being true ) unless they can produce proof.
Whatever Allah has forbidden, from his words in his book, to mankind - is wot is forbidden and not wot others say - without proof from quraan.
Below - is a verse to prove
66.1 O Prophet! why do you forbid (yourself) that which Allah has made lawful for you.
bluesnsoulful 1 year ago
Just testing to see if my comments have to be approved. Ever pro-Muslim video I come across requires the comment to be approved first. I guess Muslims fear debate and dissent.
Curveball 1 year ago
@zmsayed Ok, thank you.
2angeline 1 year ago
@2angeline - People like ZMSayed are hell bent on sidelining the Quran. They don't realize it that they are doing it.
McChirkeen 11 months ago
@McChirkeen "And whoever does not judge by what Allah has revealed - then it is those who are the disbelievers." 5:44 There's no point arguing with a person who believes some sheikh out there knows what God did not reveal.
2angeline 11 months ago
@2angeline = I guess we can appreciate the struggle of Prophet Muhammad when we deal with these sort of people who sideline the Quran and call it "difficult to understand", "not enough details", "needs commentary" etc. I really can not believe that these Muslims who want to be good Muslims have an utter disregard for the Quran. They can not see that Sahih Hadith compilations are a type of SHIRK because it makes your worship the Prophet.
McChirkeen 11 months ago
@zmsayed Which circumstances do you believe would justify this minimum requirement? And what in your opinion is the minimum requirement for the 21st century women? I would just like to know. Thank you.
2angeline 1 year ago
So men are free to display their pecs, shoulders, biceps and abdomen? Is the Muslim male body not designed to be sexually attractive to women?! The Quran tells BOTH men and women to guard there modesty and to lower their gaze: Equal responsibility and mutual respect.
2angeline 1 year ago 21
@2angeline yes Quran is just and fair !! and wat yur saying is not gonna change smthg, poor ignorant!!!
simbakingston 9 months ago
@simbakingston "And from the people, there are those who accept baseless narrations [lahwa alhadeethi] to mislead from the path of God without knowledge, and they take it as entertainment. These will have a humiliating retribution." Quran 31:6
"Shall I seek other than GOD as a source of law, when He has revealed to you this book fully detailed?" Quran 6:114
2angeline 9 months ago
@simbakingston Ignorance is in the following stupid rules like growing a beard, it means absolutely nothing ! If your heart is evil and want you to through a stone at another man or insult him because he does not grow a beard will not make you a better man. Wake up! This stupid rule and all the energy spent wanting others to do the same is totally insane. How would want the Chinese grow beards...?
jdemeulenaer123 8 months ago
@2angeline i bet you dont know that by growing beard.the body would produce more testosteron.Everything we Muslim did has its benefit..try go make a research about it.dont simply comment on something you barely dont know. Fyi everthing occured in human life is mentioned in the Quran..Still dont believe ah ? try go find whether its true or not ..
TIKUSHUTAN91 9 months ago
@TIKUSHUTAN91
Hi Brother, I'm commenting on your comment to another user. You said "i bet you dont know that by growing beard.the body would produce more testosteron.Everything we Muslim did has its benefit."
What you say is not scientifically true. What is true is that the testosterone is produced from the testes of every male, and it makes the beard grow. But more beard does not make the body produce more testosterone. Please correct your information. What you say is wrong scientifically.
miahba2a 8 months ago
@miahba2a - I am glad you provided a logical and valid point. Good work, we need more people like you.
McChirkeen 7 months ago
@TIKUSHUTAN91 - What an idiotic comment. You moron, beard is a Hadith concept not Quranic. Are you totally retarded or just plain dumb?
McChirkeen 7 months ago
@McChirkeen okay boss
TIKUSHUTAN91 7 months ago
@TIKUSHUTAN91 - What a bullshit reason. No wonder Muslims are in the gutter. With logic like that is it a wonder that Muslims are in an abyss of darkness.
McChirkeen 7 months ago
@McChirkeen Muslims are in a abyss of darkness, the west isn't? 15% of the world population using up 75% percent of the worlds resources.. All you see is hangings in Shia Iran and suicide bombings but you just leave out the mass rape, drug abuse, suicide, alcohol abuse, crime, gangs, materialism that happens in the west at a MASSIVE scale? Yeah the west is really superiour when it comes to moral values, I guess it's evil for Muslims to want sharia in the west but America FORCING Democracy isn't?
gewoonvoorfa2 7 months ago
@McChirkeen hahaha . you r afraid of the truth . this place is about to blow
TIKUSHUTAN91 7 months ago
this man is really good in explaining stuffs.May Allah have peace upon him..
TheJavido 1 year ago
What if I trim the bush around my ball sacks?
homebrewgod 1 year ago
@homebrewgod
Itll just look a bit more like your face then, go ahead mate!
jashinsensei 1 year ago
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issareign 1 year ago
@homebrewgod - even though it may seem funny to ask this question, it actually points out something so hideous in muslims today that they actually take these questions seriously. Nut sack is a better term. LOL
McChirkeen 11 months ago
ltarjamah
rosechems 1 year ago
maasha'alah brother zadakalahu cilmi wasicaa , xafidhahulahu yaa ikhe
MakhtalDaahir 1 year ago
@chitrakuut dude u got like 50 comments on islam and not a single one on ur own religion lol i spose i wouldnt take it seriously either monkeys elephants snakes. i got a dog u can come and worship that if u want
D36YLDJOHN 1 year ago
@chitrakuut personal grooming lol aint that a good thing
to be fair i dont know much about ur religion but i heard its like a porn manual (kamasutra) lol were do u guys get this from its a joke honestly
D36YLDJOHN 1 year ago
@chitrakuut says a man who keeps a statue of a monkey in his house and rings the bell to wake him up
(people living in glass houses shouldnt throw stones)
D36YLDJOHN 1 year ago
WALLAH, Brother Abdul Raheem Green is 100% telling the truth. ALLAH (SWT) may reward him for his deeds. Aameen.
BDOST 1 year ago
"The prophet didn't invent it" ? Yes he did ! ... "Whatever the prophet orders is an order from Allah", No it isn't !!! Please will you people stop listening to these idiot preachers. These are deeply stupid human beings who have shut their brains off and decided to become mental slaves. If they told you it was God's will to fly a freakin plane into a building would you be dumb enough to do it ? So why be dumb enough to listen to them about what kind of beard you need to have ?
zimtran007 1 year ago
@zimtran007 Stop talking non-sense and mind your own business.
Allah says in the Noble Quran, surah dhariyat, verse 55. ''And remind, for indeed, the reminder benefits the believers''. So if you dont want to keep beards dont influence others with your lame excuses. Be considerate that Allah watches you for whatever you say. asalam aleikum
MrTakeiteasy1 1 year ago
@MrTakeiteasy1 Allah didn't say anything in the Koran. It's just something that you muslims have made up in your heads. And I 'll say whatever I please thank you.
zimtran007 1 year ago
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MrTakeiteasy1 1 year ago
@MrTakeiteasy1 Allah or God or whatever word you want to use didn't send Mohammad or any other man with any special revelation to mankind. The Koran and the Bible and the Torah and all such books were written by men, not sent from heaven. Treat them merely as human literature, which is in fact what thy are. look, the koran is important as a piece of human literature, like Shakespeare or Homer's Iliad or any ancient work. But it was only written by men after all.
zimtran007 1 year ago
@MrTakeiteasy1 I'm sorry if this view offends you but I have to say what I think is the true. I cannot in good conscience lie to other human beings and tell them that any book written by men somehow fell from heaven or was dictated by God to some prophet because that is decieveing people into believing something that simply isn't true. Life is bigger than some simple hman authored book. If you really want to honor Allah then think for yourself instead of believing that.
zimtran007 1 year ago
@zimtran007 i did not know you are an atheist. Good to know that. Look at yourself, not once, but twice. That is enough sign that Allah is there, i dont want to go far. But i am sure you are denying me now, but when distress or sickness befalls you, you will always go back to Allah even though you deny Him now. Look at your body, millions of reactions taking place at the same time. Its just ridiculous to think that there is no God. I dont want to go far but that sign is itself enough. peace
MrTakeiteasy1 1 year ago
@MrTakeiteasy1 You as a living sovereign human being are under no obligation to obey what some men wrote in a book centuries ago. You, your, life, and your mind are bigger than that. And it is a disservice to God to not acknowledge that your own human existence is not bound by what is written in acient books. Free yourself from such notions brother and fellow man.
zimtran007 1 year ago
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MrTakeiteasy1 1 year ago
@zimtran007 So you want to tell me that you follow Allah and not the prophet muhammad (SAW)? i hope thats not the case brother. The prophet muhammad saw is the walking Quran. And the ahadith supplements the Quran. Ahadith discuss the way the prophet followed the Quran. Its simple. If you want to follow Allah, you MUST follow the prophet because he is the guide to the mankind and through him the Allah revealed Quran to mankind. beard is wajib. asalam aleikum
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MrTakeiteasy1 1 year ago
@MrTakeiteasy1 Yes, follow God by looking into your own heart and conscience, not by treating some old book like the Koran like it was the word of God instead of simply just a book. That will cripple your mind. Choose for yourself if you want a beard or not, but do it because it's what YOU want to do, not because some preacher tells you that your must because the Koran says so.
zimtran007 1 year ago
@zimtran007 How can you follow God blindly?how can you pray to Him when you dont know the way you should pray?Thats why there is Islam to teach us that.This world is a test, a test to the entire mankind by Allah.If you think you are here for no reoson then you got it wrong, big time.We are here for a reoson, to worship God thats why it comes a time when we die and that entire thing you did in this world is looked upon by God. It will be a big mistake dying without knowing what you came here for
MrTakeiteasy1 1 year ago
@MrTakeiteasy1 All men have a conscience and a mind. God has given them these things to use to know him. Islam does noty teach men any ultimate truths, they are required to seek these truths themselves, that is what life is for, not just accepting what preachers tell them, or what old books tell them. If you find truths in the Koran that's fine, no problem. But realize that you can always find truth in human literature, which is all that the Koran actually is, just human literature.
zimtran007 1 year ago
@zimtran007 I can see now you can come to my point that God is existing. That is how you should think and that is how any single human being should.
Ok about the human literature which you think that is what Quran tells us. The Quran tells us about different scientific facts such as the making of a child in the womb of the mother. Remember it was revealed 1400 years ago. At that time, there was no human literature on that issue. The Quran already had it. It will be insane to think that 1400 ago
MrTakeiteasy1 1 year ago
@MrTakeiteasy1 Actually no, I think humans 1400 years ago were much much smarter than modern people give them credit for. I think that they knew many medical and scientific things that were rediscovered by later generation. For what it's worth, your ancesters were smart enough to understand all about human births and smart enough to write books like the Koran. This should give you courage that you come from a race both ancient and intelligent.
zimtran007 1 year ago
@zimtran007 They might be smarter, but they did not have the modern equipments. And with all the intelligence and smartness to know the shape of the earth for example, is absolutely IMPOSSIBLE. to know that earth not only rotates, but does revolution is also insane. Thats not possible., and as i said before, no one can produce the like of it, whether you like it or not.
MrTakeiteasy1 1 year ago
@MrTakeiteasy1 Yes, humans did in fact write the Koran, it had merely human authors. And in fact Ptolemy measured the diameter of the earth to within 5% accuracy 450 years before the Koran was written. You can look it up it's true. He knew that the earth was a sphere and a tiny body compared to the extent of the heavens four hundred and fifty years before Mohammed was born.
zimtran007 1 year ago
@zimtran007 is it 450 years before or 450 years before the prophet muhammad (pbuh) was born? which is which? you are contradicting yourself. you are trying to look for a escape door but the fact will remain that islam is the true religion, Quran is the book to be followed and thats about that
MrTakeiteasy1 1 year ago
@MrTakeiteasy1 Look up Ptolemy on the web if you don't believe me, which you shouldn't, you should research these things yourself. He lived from AD 90 to AD 168. Mohammed lived from AD 570 – AD 622. You do the math. So by my calculations Ptolemmy was born 480 years before Mohammed. And Ptolemy knew all about those astronomical fact that you mentioned that only the Koran relieved to men. So what did men need the Koran to tell them these things for ?
zimtran007 1 year ago
@zimtran007 Let me tell you one thing brother. When i start talking about the miracles of Quran just in scientific nature then they are just too many to count. Ptolemy speculated, he NEVER measured anything. he did not use any equipment. You are speculating just like him. get your facts right
MrTakeiteasy1 1 year ago
@MrTakeiteasy1 Yes Ptolemy did in fact make the measurements of the circumfrerence of the earth aprox 450 years before Mohammed was born. You need to give our human ancesters more credit for their intelligence than you are. His measurements were very scientific for the time. He was Egyptian. The Egyptians built the pyramids thousand of years before Mohammed, The greeks built the parthenon in 447 BC almost a thousand years before Mohammed was born and it's still standing today.
zimtran007 1 year ago
@zimtran007 He speculated, he never measured. that remains as philosophical speculation. go and read it properly, internet is not something you should take evrything from. Read books and educate yourself. I have a full file of the Qurans and sunnahs miracles. I will send it to you to educate yourself properly. Some other things need some education, not just finding it directly from the net
MrTakeiteasy1 1 year ago
@MrTakeiteasy1 I am properly educated sir I assure you. And I have already read the Koran. I read it as a work of men, which it is. If the truth that the koran is simply a work of men with human authors is something that you find too disturbing to consider then fine. But it is fear of considering that it is just a work of men that is at the root of your resistence to the idea. You have been mis-taught to believe that it is the word of Allah. But this is not the truth.
zimtran007 1 year ago
@zimtran007 Then with all your knowledge, you are still deprived of lack of intelligence. Intelligence doesnt necessarily mean being a scientist or equivalent. Intelligence is an all round commodity. You might be educated but you lack intelligence of my friend. Because anyone who denies the Quran is just not intelligent. when you die,
MrTakeiteasy1 1 year ago
@zimtran007 and of course you will, then with all your knowledge, you are going to leave it here. You will be going to your Lord. With all your education, if you die a non believer, there will be nothing to answer him. So think hard, its your life. And Allah knows best
MrTakeiteasy1 1 year ago
@MrTakeiteasy1 Again, I don't seem to be getting though to you. I never said that I didn't believe in God or that I was an atheist. I said that i didn't believe that Mohammad or anyother man in history was God's prophet or that any book written by men (which includes all books ever written) was the word of God. If you want to believe in God I have no problem with that. God is an interesting idea, but you don't need to look for him in the koran or assume it's God's word.
zimtran007 1 year ago
@zimtran007 where do you want us to look for Him? in the sky like your friend ptolemy? Quran is an evidence that God exists. Without it how will we know that he does exist? Dont tell me human conscience. Human conscience knows only how to say that life came about BING BANG and other theories.
MrTakeiteasy1 1 year ago
@MrTakeiteasy1 The world, reality, your fellow human beings, your wonderful children, your adoring parents, your friends, your conscience and your own sense of good and evil, the beautiful sunsets and bright stars above at night, the trees, the oceans, and the wonders of nature, all of creation, this is God's relevation to us. Not some book alone, ... to believe that is to sell God short. Worse, it allows the opinions of others to become your sole source of revelation.
zimtran007 1 year ago
@zimtran007 All what you said is just fantastic. All what you say is still mentioned in the Quran in a beautiful way. Your statement enough shows the blessing Allah gave you. Unfortunately you cannot realize it. But from the Quran we find your situation again. As for him whom God allows to go astray you will not find a way.
MrTakeiteasy1 1 year ago
@MrTakeiteasy1 MAY ALLAH(SWT) GUIDE YOU BROTHER
MrTakeiteasy1 1 year ago
@MrTakeiteasy1 Again, and I cannot repeat this enough. The Koran was written by men. Men like us, with the same thoughts as us. So it only makes sense that it should sound like it came from humans, which it does. I am not astry at all on this, you are I must kindly say if you believe it was somehow dictated by god and not merely written by men like you then it is you sir who are astray.
zimtran007 1 year ago
@zimtran007 And I'm sorry but God or Allah never told men that they have to wear a beard or how to dress themselves. Nonsense like that has to go. It makes people crazy all these stupid idiotic rules.
zimtran007 1 year ago
@zimtran007 Go and learn Arabic and then read the quran, if you till think its from human being than do whatever you want.
mbksold 1 year ago
@mbksold I still think the quran was written by human beings. In fact I know that it was. Common sense (for those humans who have it) is all that is needed to tell us this.
zimtran007 1 year ago
@zimtran007 Islam is the truth, Allah is the only God, Muhammed is the final messenger of God and the quran is a miracle sent down to the last prophet, SNM!
riazxfiles 1 year ago
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zimtran007 1 year ago
@zimtran007 EVERYBODY!!! this guy is a NUTTER!!!! don't listen to this brainwashed homo, who thinks his to clever with his fake account. He is a bored pathetic Fool!!!!
riazxfiles 1 year ago
@riazxfiles I completely agreed with you riazxfiles, Abdur Raheem Green is a complete nutter. I'm not sure if green is a homo (though he does wear a dress instead of pants like men do). I also think as you do that Greene's self brainwashing in Islam is rather pathetic, a mind is a terrible thing to waste.
zimtran007 1 year ago
This homo `zimtran007` is pure moist!!! SNM
riazxfiles 1 year ago
@riazxfiles Look there is no reason to go calling Mr. Abdur Raheem Green a 'homo', even I wouldn't do that though I disagree with him on just about everything. So now I have to step up and defend Mr. Green and say that you calling Abdur Raheem Green a homo is not right riazxfiles.
zimtran007 1 year ago
@zimtran007 listen I fully support what Abdur Green is saying as he is very knowledgeable in the Deen, in fact he is one of my favorite lecturer to listen to,
I am no longer going to respond to your little insults, Islam is the fastest growing religion in the world believe it or not! SNM!
and for the record you (zimtran007) are a diseased homo looking for attention! =)
riazxfiles 1 year ago
@riazxfiles Listen, for the last time, your have no right to call Abdur Raheem Green a diseased homo. That's going too far ! Even if you disagree with the speaker in the video your should refrain from calling Mr. Green names. Islam is the fastest shrinking religion in the world, everyone is leaving it. In fact it's not even a religion, it's a cult that imprisons people in nonsense and impairs their ability to think for themselves and take command of their own lives without apologies.
zimtran007 1 year ago
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@riazxfiles And the space aliens from the planet Zeta Reticuli have given the Incas the magic stone of inner wisdom with which to bring peace and harmony to the world in 2012. ... Does that sentence sound plausible to you ? Well, that's how what you just said sounds to me.
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zimtran007 1 year ago
@MrTakeiteasy1 look If I can come up with that out of my own mind then so can any man at any time. Which is another proof that the koran was written by men and not by God. God creates stars and oceans not books ! There is nothing to realize about the koran except that it is a piece of human literature, not the word of God. All books are human creations. God did not allow me to go astry and I am not astray in any way. I'm right about this.
zimtran007 1 year ago
@MrTakeiteasy1 The Koran did not tell me any of those things. We human beings knwo them already even without the koran.
zimtran007 1 year ago
@MrTakeiteasy1 The Quran is not evidence that God exists at all. It's only evidence that men can write. Creation itself is evidence that God exists if you wish. Nothing else will do.
zimtran007 1 year ago
@MrTakeiteasy1 Creation and all existence itself is God's only book. He writes bigger than men.
zimtran007 1 year ago
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@MrTakeiteasy1 Men wrote the koran not God, not Allah. Men no different than you and me. This is the real truth.
zimtran007 1 year ago
@MrTakeiteasy1 The greeks used complex mathematiics to construct the parthenon, they didn't get this geometric knowledge from the Koran, because the Koran would not be even be written yet for another ten centuries. Ptolemy did in fact to those astronomical measurements, he didn't need the Koran to do them because the Koran didn't even exist then. I'm sorry if these historical facts frighten you sir but you need to face the truth. The Koran is just another work of men.
zimtran007 1 year ago
@MrTakeiteasy1 No I'm sorry all your logic is nonsense. The real issue here is that your mind is stuck in a belief system that the Koran is the word of God, which it isn't. And something in you fears to question that belief system because you have been so attached to it for much of your life. But you don't need ti. You really would be freer without it.
zimtran007 1 year ago
@zimtran007 i dont need it, WE NEED IT. Live that life of yours of speculation, but that would never save you from the punishment of Allah when you die as a disbeliever. Think about your life, its yours, you need God, with your all human conscience belief which is of no fact but pure speculation. So before opening your mouth, try and get your facts right.
MrTakeiteasy1 1 year ago