it's because everyone on here is representing our community of firearm owners, collectors and enthusiasts and we try to correct you on your use/handling so there are fewer incidents and so there is more out there for the people on the anti-gun side to see that we are responsible gun owners not idiots with boom sticks, got it!?
You are correct. But there is another side to your argument. Anyone watching said video, taking it as a source of how to shoot a fire arm in such a manner, has the responsibility to make their own safety smart decisions. If you're taking videos like this as means to what general fire arm owners do with their guns, then you need to recheck your facts and stop worrying about people that have hundreds of acres of land to do what they want with their own weapons.Otherwise Step off
Alright I know some of you probably do know alot about gun safety but there's no medals for who knows the most, don't worry about other people unless your affected by it, and dont personally insult people over shooting for god sake, also I did a similar thing the other day, not slam fire but I'm only 14 and there were three rabbits bout 50 meters away moving about and at about the same rate of fire as in this video I got all three in under 5 seconds! :P
@dasdew2 You are right to some degree. Weight can affect how well you handle the recoil of a firearm but above all other things, it's certainly technique that determines how well you deal with recoil. For example, try firing a G3 Assault Rifle on Full-Auto. It's hard as shit, you might even fall to the ground. However, I've seen Norwegian soldiers manhandle their AR's while standing up.
@Card0Sold so i should shoot a 12gauge 1897 in weaver stane(the one the police taught me)?huh
legs shoulder with apart,strong leg back(same side as the hand your pulling the trigger with),knees bent,sholders foward,lean into it.Cant belive that will reduce recoil.
Thanks,im also getting a sholder pad,cosyum fit butt pad, and a slip on pad.Is that enough for the recoil
@dasdew2 There really is no correct stance for shooting any kind of firearm. As long as it doesn't hurt you and you are most effective with it, you should use it. If you watched Top Shot Season 2, Jay (The Asian guy) had a very weird way of shooting but yet he was one of the last people to leave the show.
Weaver Stance is pretty standard. I suggest keeping it but if you want to change it, go ahead. With shotguns, I put 80% of my weight on my front foot.
@dasdew2 If you want modifications for an 1897, there isn't much on the market because its a really old gun. So as far as it comes to reducing recoil for that shotgun, the only thing you can really rely on is your shooting form, maybe a cheek rest or butt pad.
For other more modular shotguns like the Mossberg 500, 590, Reminton 870 or Benellis, you can add tons of attachments. One of the best ways to reduce recoil on those is a custom polymer stock and recoil compensator.
@dasdew2 Honestly, I don't know. There are certainly parts out there you can order from original Model 1897's (screws, bolts) but the the thing is that they are so old, no one really modifies them. Its like sporterizing an original flintlock rifle; its useless and shouldn't be done because of its historic value.
What I suggest you do is find a shotgun that is similar to the 1897 and then buy the parts for it so you can match it to the 1897. If it doesn't work out, you should return the parts.
@dasdew2 Yeah, your welcome. Try looking at military surplus stores. Maybe they are selling WW II or Pre-WW II parts for this gun. Most likely a bayonet or heat shield. But yea, Good luck!
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@RebeltilliDie45 I completely agree with you, we should all encourage strangers on the internet to drink drive too, who cares if some poor neighbors in some other country or city get ran over.
@aaron4820 He not encouraging him to slam fire, he's saying leave people to their own devices. Encouraging driving drunk has nothing to do twith this.
@bc3333333 no he's telling people to shut the fuck up about teaching gun safety on the internet because apparently everyone should care for themselves and we shouldn't have to care for the wellbeing of others. he's a self centered fuck
@RebeltilliDie45 You made a public statement, therefore you have to expect public critsism. If you don't like people voicing their opinions on your opinions keep them to yourself, or at least don't post them on a public site. No one asked for your opinion, but you still gave it.
I don't think it's "cool" to correct someone, I just don't want to see someone get hurt while using a gun, that makes all gun owners look bad, something I also don't want to see.
@RebeltilliDie45 You made a public statement, therefore you have to expect public critsism. If you don't like people voicing their opinions on your opinions keep them to yourself, or at least don't post them on a public site. No one asked for your opinion, but you still gave it.
I don't think it's "cool" to correct someone, I just don't want to see someone get hurt while using a gun, that makes all gun owners look bad, something I also don't want to see.
@RebeltilliDie45 Dick head? I merely offered a response to your comments. It's alright for you to assert your opinions but you don't like it when other people do it?
Grow up. If you can't handle other people voicing their opinions what makes you think we want to hear yours. Like I said before, improper gun safety affects all gun owners through laws that can and will be passed.
@RebeltilliDie45 Because when the idiots that don't follow proper safety precautions go and accidently shoot themselves or their friends more gun laws are passed which effect all of us.
@harrisboy42 actually when i was in the military i saw alot of accidental discharges from some of whom were trained individuals. Many of them from non American military's. so no accidental discharges can happen to any one who is careless with a firearm
@RebeltilliDie45 Well maybe he doesent want someone to blow thier friends or their own fucking head off and hes just trying to help and your being a douche fuck.
pretty sure it isnt a slam fire...it's called no trigger disconnect. Meaning you hold the trigger down and pump and it will fire. Ithica model 37s did had this feature too.
@hardluckking13 when this gun was made it was stated in the actual manual that this was considered slam firing. This is an old military shotgun and they made it that way so that it can b quickly fired to spray a small area. with later weapons that operated like this they coined the term trigger disconnect but slam fire still stuck for this one.
I'm huge into safety and I honestly disagree with the criticism. The point of the video is to demonstrate the slam fire capacity of the weapon (which requires the trigger to be depressed before the round is chambered). Arguably he could have opted to only demonstrate it on subsequent rounds, but it really isn't a safety issue. On his return to the truck he is decocking the weapon by holding down the trigger then slowly dropping the hammer. This last part might be a safety violation but...
@harrisboy42 no its not actually even if you personally unload every slug or bullet out of a gun that gun should still and should always be considered loaded you fucken moron
@harrisboy42 You are an idiot if you aren't anal with guns someone can be seriously injured you retard. Guns aren't toys. The fact that you seem so fine with the idea of mistakes happening shows how dumb you are. Accidents don't just happen, negligence does.
A slam gun is homemade out of black pipe. There is no stock, just the pipes and the shell, yep, one at a time. Its a last ditch effort for defense. I really wouldn't want to fire one unless it was THE last defense.
u got it in control, nice one!! and forget about all those"safety first"guys, slam firing like that was already not a safe way to handle a firearm anyway. just hv some fuking fun!!
how much did you get that trench gun for? I have been kinda looking for one lately. It would be a great piece to my collection and just to shoot for fun.
did anyone besides me notice he had his finger on the trigger before and after and walked past his freind while his finger was still on the trigger dumbasses
Well, you are right for about 3 seconds, but Notice you cant see the trigger when he's at the jeep? Then gun is not pointed at anything but ground, and the hammer is down, along side with the fact that he checked to see that all shells are expelled... I know i was there... Check your facts next time buddy...
@00dempsey but still..even if its empty you alwasy treat a firearm as if its loaded no matter what..just like you never point a gun at anything unless you are goign to shoot it.same with the finger on the trigger.never on the trigger unless you are firing it..i mean i dont care either way..i mean hes a big boy he can do what he wants
@00dempsey That's what happens when an airsofter/youtuber tries to correct and judge someone. And if the cameraman was shot... it would be on youtube for all of us to see, right? =D
@00dempsey His point was that a gun should always be treated as if it was loaded and you should never have your trigger on the finger unless you're ready to fire the gun.. I know practicing gun safety can be annoying even when you know there is no threat from it but it's worth it in the times that a mistake could occur.
@airsoftloverusp simple trigger discipline really, if you don't want to be picking bits of buckshot out of your face, or your friends face off of the floor, take your finger off the trigger.
@dirtydeedz161 And you should never have your trigger on the finger unless you're ready to fire the gun.The video games may have the finger on the trigger all the time but thats not how real life is theres a difference but i noticed you liked F3 songs with is nice.
@dirtydeedz161 You are an idiot. You finger should never enter the trigger guard until you have picked a target and are ready to shoot it. This is to prevent accidentally touching off the trigger. Which can happen a few different ways. Gun safety first you moron. Guns are always loaded.
@bsdmon Guns are always loaded if you're a fucking moron, otherwise, it's physically impossible for a gun you KNOW is unloaded to become loaded, because bullets don't just fucking form out of thin air in the chamber of your weapon.
@dirtydeedz161 You are a dumbass. It is a basic safety rule to treat every gun as if it were loaded. You do not point it at anything you would have worries about destroying. ESPECIALLY people.
@dirtydeedz161 What if one gets jammed, such as a improper shell, then you dry fire it for fun, and kill someone?What I am saying is, Never put your finger on the trigger until you are ready. Although this doesn't go for the SWAT Team, Police force, or any other forces such as those. I have had nearly 2 years of training in the SWAT (Special weapons and tactics), and I have learned from many close calls that you need to keep your trigger ready for protection.
@Pwnermobile123 Check the barrel before you touch the trigger. Besides, who dry-fires a gun for "fun"? That damages the firing pin 9 times out of 10. It should be common sense not to set your finger on the trigger anyway, but not everyone (like the guys in this vide0) have that, let alone professional weapons training. Don't patronize me, I know what SWAT is short for.
@dirtydeedz161 you never supposed to look down the barrel of a gun and dry firing does not damage the firing pin trust me i have done it loads of times. I am not "Patronizing" you just simply stating what is true.
@dirtydeedz161 lol, i read everything that you said and your not very bright. I have minimal knowledge of gun handling, but even i know the phrase "Every gun is loaded". He obviously didn't mean it literally, but you didn't quite catch that, did you? Also, haha "check the barrel before you touch the trigger"? Ahh yes, let's all look down the barrels of our guns before we start shooting just to make sure everything's OK. Lastly nice BS statistic about dry firing... most guns have no issue with it
Way to jump into a 2 month old argument, you dumb fuck. How else does someone mean "Every gun is loaded" other than literally? As I'm sure I said before, bullets do not magically appear in a gun. If you know its empty, its fucking empty. "Check the barrel before you touch the trigger". Hmm... Let's see. Are all guns muzzle-loaders? No? So that means you can, say, with a semi-atuo pistol, pull the slide back to check the chamber, and not look down the barrel!
@dirtydeedz161 There are other ways to interpret things other than literally genius. Also, the fact that jams and squib loads happen is enough to back up the idea that you never know if a gun is truly empty. Lastly, your last point makes no sense and only ends up going against your own intelligence in that you presented your own quote and pointed out its discrepancies. Skimmed through the 2nd comment, don't feel like arguing with a 12 year-old with access to wikipedia. plz don't reply, too lazy
@dirtydeedz161 I thought i brought up the fact that you swear unnecessarily in the last comment. Guess i forgot, but you need to stop that cause it just makes people assume you're uncultured, uncivilized, and uneducated. When people swear, it's like a defense mechanism because they don't know what to say or they know they're wrong. Their only way of protection is spewing out cusses in an unsuccessful attempt to intimidate their enemy.
@curtisxxu "Uncultured, uncivilized and uneducated"? Obviously. Not like Shakespeare ever used a swear or two. God, I bet you have a raging boner right now, hey?
@dirtydeedz161 lol, his swears were there to put emphasize on carefully picked out points, not used randomly whenever he felt rage. I was actually beginning to respect and believe in your adulthood until i got to the end where you once again had to prove your immaturity.
@curtisxxu Also, you don't know shit about firing pins or how they function.
"For most common cartridges, there are snap caps available to reduce the risk of damaging the firing pin. It is generally acceptable to dry fire more modern centerfire firearms without a cartridge or snap cap. However, dry firing a shotgun or rimfire firearm can damage the firing pin. Furthermore, damage can occur to the chamber mouth of a rimfire firearm." - Wikipedia
are you thick as shit, a magazine fed weapon without a magazine on is not loaded. in this example there is no magazine but the weapon is clearly empty. TWAT
@SiMo666suzukiRider what is that supposed to mean. No matter what is going on your booger picker shouldnt be in the trigger guard until taking the shot. Most shooters naturally rest their finger out of the outside of the guard so putting it in takes no time really. If you are in a defensive situation and run around with your finger on the trigger you are just asking to have a negligent discharge. Especially if you were to trip or something.
@bsdmon and since when are guns always loaded? NONE of my guns are loaded right now. When I'm shooting, as soon as my gun is pointed in the general direction of the target, I put my hand in the trigger guard, then find my target
@doctarvampire YOU ARE A FUCKING MORON. One of the main rules of gun safety is that you treat a gun if it is always loaded. This is to prevent the "Oh don't worry it's not loaded" Mentality. Which has caused people uneducated about gun safety to kill themselves or others while doing stupid shit with a gun, because" Oh well it wasn't loaded" So you fugging tarts can keep debating that a gun physically can't be loaded when it isn't. No shit sherlock. That is not the point. Get a life.
@bsdmon Me get a life? I'm not the troll who obviously grew up around a bunch of rednecks who *think they* are gun safety experts. Now, I only shoot targets, so this doesn;t really apply to me, but think, you are in a competition and need to shoot a target as fast as you can. For that half a second it takes to put you're finger in the trigger guard, when you could be shooting, the wind hits you, you shake, or something.
@airsoftloverusp If you had actually paid attention you would have noticed that he checked to make sure it was clear after he was done firing. With no ammunition in the weapon it essentially becomes a heavy club. He would have to physically hit someone with it for it to be dangerous. Besides.. As someone mentioned before he was not pointing the gun at anyone regardless of the guns status, which I think is a more important point.
Well, technicllay it's not new... -_____-
DizzyMan24 1 month ago
@DizzyMan24 Chinese reproduction.
Cytacon 1 month ago
@Cytacon Oh.. Well, that completley throws away my comment... -___-
DizzyMan24 1 month ago
one day people will realize u can shoot ur fucking foot off by doing such crap
monkeyfunn41 2 months ago
How do these lock the bolt?
VicariousReality7 2 months ago
Love this scatter gun!! Mine dates back to 1900. Keep shooting history
ruger3939 4 months ago
@RebeltilliDie45
I agree. Unless you're directly affected by someone using a fire arm, then your really just starting an argument.
00dempsey 5 months ago
@RebeltilliDie45 you know why?
it's because everyone on here is representing our community of firearm owners, collectors and enthusiasts and we try to correct you on your use/handling so there are fewer incidents and so there is more out there for the people on the anti-gun side to see that we are responsible gun owners not idiots with boom sticks, got it!?
24GordonFan223 5 months ago
@24GordonFan223
You are correct. But there is another side to your argument. Anyone watching said video, taking it as a source of how to shoot a fire arm in such a manner, has the responsibility to make their own safety smart decisions. If you're taking videos like this as means to what general fire arm owners do with their guns, then you need to recheck your facts and stop worrying about people that have hundreds of acres of land to do what they want with their own weapons.Otherwise Step off
00dempsey 5 months ago
@24GordonFan223 Run on sentence much?
benpg 4 months ago
@benpg
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iwasborninyourbutt 5 months ago
@RebeltilliDie45 nice argument!
SuperSnowMonkeys 5 months ago
Alright I know some of you probably do know alot about gun safety but there's no medals for who knows the most, don't worry about other people unless your affected by it, and dont personally insult people over shooting for god sake, also I did a similar thing the other day, not slam fire but I'm only 14 and there were three rabbits bout 50 meters away moving about and at about the same rate of fire as in this video I got all three in under 5 seconds! :P
AidanzAnimations 5 months ago
HOW MUCH DO YOU WEIGH?
If I did that,the first shot I would fly back wards with a dislocated shoulder.
But seriously how did the recoil not push you back?
dasdew2 5 months ago
@dasdew2 You are right to some degree. Weight can affect how well you handle the recoil of a firearm but above all other things, it's certainly technique that determines how well you deal with recoil. For example, try firing a G3 Assault Rifle on Full-Auto. It's hard as shit, you might even fall to the ground. However, I've seen Norwegian soldiers manhandle their AR's while standing up.
Card0Sold 5 months ago
@Card0Sold so i should shoot a 12gauge 1897 in weaver stane(the one the police taught me)?huh
legs shoulder with apart,strong leg back(same side as the hand your pulling the trigger with),knees bent,sholders foward,lean into it.Cant belive that will reduce recoil.
Thanks,im also getting a sholder pad,cosyum fit butt pad, and a slip on pad.Is that enough for the recoil
dasdew2 5 months ago
@dasdew2 There really is no correct stance for shooting any kind of firearm. As long as it doesn't hurt you and you are most effective with it, you should use it. If you watched Top Shot Season 2, Jay (The Asian guy) had a very weird way of shooting but yet he was one of the last people to leave the show.
Weaver Stance is pretty standard. I suggest keeping it but if you want to change it, go ahead. With shotguns, I put 80% of my weight on my front foot.
Card0Sold 5 months ago
@dasdew2 If you want modifications for an 1897, there isn't much on the market because its a really old gun. So as far as it comes to reducing recoil for that shotgun, the only thing you can really rely on is your shooting form, maybe a cheek rest or butt pad.
For other more modular shotguns like the Mossberg 500, 590, Reminton 870 or Benellis, you can add tons of attachments. One of the best ways to reduce recoil on those is a custom polymer stock and recoil compensator.
Card0Sold 5 months ago
@Card0Sold Where can i find a bayonet lug,trench knife bayone,choke, and heat sheild?
dasdew2 5 months ago
@dasdew2 Honestly, I don't know. There are certainly parts out there you can order from original Model 1897's (screws, bolts) but the the thing is that they are so old, no one really modifies them. Its like sporterizing an original flintlock rifle; its useless and shouldn't be done because of its historic value.
What I suggest you do is find a shotgun that is similar to the 1897 and then buy the parts for it so you can match it to the 1897. If it doesn't work out, you should return the parts.
Card0Sold 5 months ago
@Card0Sold I've already found some replicas for sale,none are american made but they're still good quality
Thanks for the info
Take care.
dasdew2 5 months ago
@dasdew2 Yeah, your welcome. Try looking at military surplus stores. Maybe they are selling WW II or Pre-WW II parts for this gun. Most likely a bayonet or heat shield. But yea, Good luck!
Card0Sold 5 months ago
@RebeltilliDie45
Because I care about everyone's safety..
samthegreat4 5 months ago
I JUST MASTURBATED TO THIS VIDEO.
BootyFister 6 months ago
Oh how cute, its the crew from Red Dawn
ANGRYSECTI0N8 6 months ago 21
@ANGRYSECTI0N8 WOLVERINES!
lehnert2 5 months ago
@ANGRYSECTI0N8 WOLVERINES!!
cptkorean 2 months ago
LOL shotgun machine gun
coolcatevan9 6 months ago
i bet that was fun to do cool vid
kirbyfan600 6 months ago
@RebeltilliDie45 it makes all gun owners look bad when people who don't know how to handle guns properly hurt themselves or others.
whitey211 6 months ago
wow, just as i thought, people trolling about how much they think they know about firearms.
Firecloud500 6 months ago
Cool video. Zombie slayer if I have ever seen one
eXGee11 6 months ago
DAM man hows your shoulder after firing that thing!? nice video!
m16police 7 months ago
Does that harm the gun?
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tacolord9999 7 months ago
wow.super soaker of lead =P
attackcatrawr 7 months ago
@RebeltilliDie45 Safety is for fools without common sense.
DevilBirdProductions 7 months ago
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Apoc897 7 months ago
you can all suck my balls for no reason...
glockzup 7 months ago
@RebeltilliDie45 I completely agree with you, we should all encourage strangers on the internet to drink drive too, who cares if some poor neighbors in some other country or city get ran over.
aaron4820 7 months ago
@aaron4820 He not encouraging him to slam fire, he's saying leave people to their own devices. Encouraging driving drunk has nothing to do twith this.
bc3333333 7 months ago
@bc3333333 no he's telling people to shut the fuck up about teaching gun safety on the internet because apparently everyone should care for themselves and we shouldn't have to care for the wellbeing of others. he's a self centered fuck
spartan2527 7 months ago
aswome.plain aswome.
epicspy1 8 months ago
@RebeltilliDie45 You spoke your opinion of other peoples' opinion, and then I spoke my opinion based off of yours.
Your "statement' was your opinion. Deal with it.
cyberhendrix 8 months ago 11
guns are gay. you are gay.
SaygoodbyetoMrJones 9 months ago
@SaygoodbyetoMrJones that comment... you probably think that Primus doesn't suck
SgtZaqq 8 months ago
@SgtZaqq hahaha nice comment. i just think guns are stupid, sorry man.
SaygoodbyetoMrJones 8 months ago
@SaygoodbyetoMrJones so why you watch vids with guns? ;)
SgtZaqq 8 months ago
@RebeltilliDie45 You made a public statement, therefore you have to expect public critsism. If you don't like people voicing their opinions on your opinions keep them to yourself, or at least don't post them on a public site. No one asked for your opinion, but you still gave it.
I don't think it's "cool" to correct someone, I just don't want to see someone get hurt while using a gun, that makes all gun owners look bad, something I also don't want to see.
cyberhendrix 9 months ago
@RebeltilliDie45 You made a public statement, therefore you have to expect public critsism. If you don't like people voicing their opinions on your opinions keep them to yourself, or at least don't post them on a public site. No one asked for your opinion, but you still gave it.
I don't think it's "cool" to correct someone, I just don't want to see someone get hurt while using a gun, that makes all gun owners look bad, something I also don't want to see.
cyberhendrix 9 months ago
@RebeltilliDie45 Dick head? I merely offered a response to your comments. It's alright for you to assert your opinions but you don't like it when other people do it?
Grow up. If you can't handle other people voicing their opinions what makes you think we want to hear yours. Like I said before, improper gun safety affects all gun owners through laws that can and will be passed.
cyberhendrix 9 months ago
@RebeltilliDie45 Because when the idiots that don't follow proper safety precautions go and accidently shoot themselves or their friends more gun laws are passed which effect all of us.
cyberhendrix 9 months ago
@harrisboy42 actually when i was in the military i saw alot of accidental discharges from some of whom were trained individuals. Many of them from non American military's. so no accidental discharges can happen to any one who is careless with a firearm
moshpitmachine 9 months ago
@RebeltilliDie45 Well maybe he doesent want someone to blow thier friends or their own fucking head off and hes just trying to help and your being a douche fuck.
GETRAPEDHEERHURHEER 9 months ago
this gun is hella old
Dietpopsoda 9 months ago
@RebeltilliDie45 Well said :)
fight4urpointofveiw 9 months ago
@RebeltilliDie45 Good call
alexk12277 9 months ago
pretty sure it isnt a slam fire...it's called no trigger disconnect. Meaning you hold the trigger down and pump and it will fire. Ithica model 37s did had this feature too.
hardluckking13 10 months ago
@hardluckking13 when this gun was made it was stated in the actual manual that this was considered slam firing. This is an old military shotgun and they made it that way so that it can b quickly fired to spray a small area. with later weapons that operated like this they coined the term trigger disconnect but slam fire still stuck for this one.
moshpitmachine 9 months ago
slam firing is not recommended, can cause damage to your gun
zenREVolution 10 months ago
I would consider it to be minor in nature (considering I don't think he's pointing it in an unsafe direction at the time).
rsmac11 10 months ago
I'm huge into safety and I honestly disagree with the criticism. The point of the video is to demonstrate the slam fire capacity of the weapon (which requires the trigger to be depressed before the round is chambered). Arguably he could have opted to only demonstrate it on subsequent rounds, but it really isn't a safety issue. On his return to the truck he is decocking the weapon by holding down the trigger then slowly dropping the hammer. This last part might be a safety violation but...
rsmac11 10 months ago
That's all? Looks as though your buddy is falling asleep. jk
spiers0405 10 months ago
@harrisboy42 no its not actually even if you personally unload every slug or bullet out of a gun that gun should still and should always be considered loaded you fucken moron
Jschwan1 11 months ago
haha cool beans
MrToadland1 11 months ago
@harrisboy42 You are an idiot if you aren't anal with guns someone can be seriously injured you retard. Guns aren't toys. The fact that you seem so fine with the idea of mistakes happening shows how dumb you are. Accidents don't just happen, negligence does.
bsdmon 11 months ago
"hahahaha... jared"
Halvorson 11 months ago
Sorry, but that is NOT a slam gun.
A slam gun is homemade out of black pipe. There is no stock, just the pipes and the shell, yep, one at a time. Its a last ditch effort for defense. I really wouldn't want to fire one unless it was THE last defense.
TelcoPhil 11 months ago
@TelcoPhil that's a zip gun. and this isn't a slam gun, it's a trench shotgun being slam-fired.
pacificimporters 10 months ago
Why does everyone bitch about gun safety?
Every firearms video youtube there is some fucking kid bitching about finger control or safety. Yes finger control is very important but.......
The gun here is unloaded, we all saw it.
It's like telling someone to get their foot off the gas petal when the car isn't even on.
God damn.
Migs4000 11 months ago
@Migs4000 Nice!
erkoekrf 11 months ago
is this intentional or a malfunction?
IsaacKarjala 1 year ago
Take your finger off the trigger, for God's sake it's driving me crazy.
SepticProductions 1 year ago
@SepticProductions Then don't watch or at least don't comment.
mrrobotica 9 months ago
from a scale to one to ten how much kick would you say the m97 has???
killa9599 1 year ago
@killa9599 *recoil*
SepticProductions 1 year ago
the last few seconds were set up.. its so gay to see this asshole trying to look cool but they are all assholes -.-
MrGratz123xD 1 year ago
this vid appears to be missing another high rated comment
Barden95 1 year ago
Not a trench model, this is the civilian riot version. The trench version of the 1897 featured a heat shield, bayonet lug and sling swivels.
Nerevar1990 1 year ago
can you do this with modern shotguns too?
gunsmith93 1 year ago
@gunsmith93 no they stated to put trigger disconnecters in the guns in the late 1950's
getsomelead 1 year ago
isnt dangerous slam firing a shotgun?
jackbernett 1 year ago
YEA TURN THE VIDEO OFF DAMMIT!!!
funwithCJandED123 1 year ago
u got it in control, nice one!! and forget about all those"safety first"guys, slam firing like that was already not a safe way to handle a firearm anyway. just hv some fuking fun!!
kkww8963 1 year ago
i want one
idk1234idk88 1 year ago
beast...
chevyalltheway2013 1 year ago
That's good for it...
But yes, even if it's unloaded, treat it as if it were. Prevents accidents by keeping you in the habit.
Futzyy 1 year ago
@Futzyy Smart people!
airsoftloverusp 1 year ago
how much did you get that trench gun for? I have been kinda looking for one lately. It would be a great piece to my collection and just to shoot for fun.
Jstnevns 1 year ago
didn't he put on the safety to at about 0:7 or hammer i dont know i here something click
basehunter1690 1 year ago
Slam-firing a M1897? Hoo boy, the Germans in WW1 absolutely HATED when we did that.
Totallyfizzle 1 year ago
@Totallyfizzle lmao
BigEvan96 1 year ago
I want that.
sexwaffles 1 year ago
Is that a 12 gauge? The barrel looks too big to be a 12 gauge.
TheZombieKiller29 1 year ago
Bad. ASS.
deeppurple0000000001 1 year ago
Love the receding bolt on it!
Russkyi1 1 year ago 5
hahaha YES nice gun by the way
rhaid97 1 year ago
turn the video off, for god sakes, this drives me crazy
x360m4 1 year ago
rednecks
1somethingimportant 1 year ago
he is gangsta
aramco123 1 year ago
did anyone besides me notice he had his finger on the trigger before and after and walked past his freind while his finger was still on the trigger dumbasses
airsoftloverusp 1 year ago
@airsoftloverusp at least he checked the chamber
CannibalizedMan 1 year ago
Well, you are right for about 3 seconds, but Notice you cant see the trigger when he's at the jeep? Then gun is not pointed at anything but ground, and the hammer is down, along side with the fact that he checked to see that all shells are expelled... I know i was there... Check your facts next time buddy...
00dempsey 1 year ago 37
@00dempsey how gray
x360m4 1 year ago
@00dempsey but still..even if its empty you alwasy treat a firearm as if its loaded no matter what..just like you never point a gun at anything unless you are goign to shoot it.same with the finger on the trigger.never on the trigger unless you are firing it..i mean i dont care either way..i mean hes a big boy he can do what he wants
FlattusMaximusD 1 year ago
@00dempsey if you look and really listen he puts it in half cock
HemiFreak94 1 year ago
@00dempsey even do the gun is not loaded or cocked it should still be treated like if it was so
Trillios 1 year ago
@00dempsey
you can even see him decocking the hammer.
AllisterCaine 1 year ago
@00dempsey That's what happens when an airsofter/youtuber tries to correct and judge someone. And if the cameraman was shot... it would be on youtube for all of us to see, right? =D
pauta9 1 year ago
@00dempsey
ahhaa, "airsoftloverusp"
oh man.
musicyouneverheard 1 year ago
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@00dempsey
ahhaa, "airsoftloverusp," age 14
oh man.
musicyouneverheard 1 year ago
@00dempsey His point was that a gun should always be treated as if it was loaded and you should never have your trigger on the finger unless you're ready to fire the gun.. I know practicing gun safety can be annoying even when you know there is no threat from it but it's worth it in the times that a mistake could occur.
MF0TY 1 year ago
@00dempsey its still foolish, hope you loose a head, hand or finger.
skizzerbo 1 year ago
@00dempsey Still, trigger discipline.
NottheFacePlease 10 months ago
@airsoftloverusp he had the gun pointed straight from where he was shooting the whole time.. nowhere near the camear guy
walkertexasranger33 1 year ago
@airsoftloverusp His finger is under the trigger.
Starpigs92 1 year ago
@Starpigs92 No he didnt put it on full screen
airsoftloverusp 1 year ago
@airsoftloverusp maybe you didn't notice that he decocked the gun?
k0mpassi 1 year ago
@k0mpassi Treat every gun as it was loaded :)
airsoftloverusp 1 year ago
@airsoftloverusp It won't go off even if jesus fell from the sky.
k0mpassi 1 year ago
@airsoftloverusp simple trigger discipline really, if you don't want to be picking bits of buckshot out of your face, or your friends face off of the floor, take your finger off the trigger.
RnW93 1 year ago
@RnW93 Exactly
airsoftloverusp 1 year ago
@airsoftloverusp
Why do you gotta be such a prick?
azurescens420 1 year ago
@airsoftloverusp Obviously empty gun is obviously empty. Don't shit your pants because he had his finger on the trigger.
dirtydeedz161 1 year ago
@dirtydeedz161 And you should never have your trigger on the finger unless you're ready to fire the gun.The video games may have the finger on the trigger all the time but thats not how real life is theres a difference but i noticed you liked F3 songs with is nice.
airsoftloverusp 1 year ago
@airsoftloverusp You can have your finger on the trigger of a gun you know is empty. There's no harm in that.
dirtydeedz161 1 year ago
@dirtydeedz161 You are an idiot. You finger should never enter the trigger guard until you have picked a target and are ready to shoot it. This is to prevent accidentally touching off the trigger. Which can happen a few different ways. Gun safety first you moron. Guns are always loaded.
bsdmon 1 year ago 15
@bsdmon Guns are always loaded if you're a fucking moron, otherwise, it's physically impossible for a gun you KNOW is unloaded to become loaded, because bullets don't just fucking form out of thin air in the chamber of your weapon.
dirtydeedz161 1 year ago
@dirtydeedz161 You dont have guns so i will no longer argue with you.
airsoftloverusp 1 year ago
@airsoftloverusp You have absolutely no idea if I do or do not own guns.
dirtydeedz161 1 year ago
@dirtydeedz161 You are a dumbass. It is a basic safety rule to treat every gun as if it were loaded. You do not point it at anything you would have worries about destroying. ESPECIALLY people.
bsdmon 1 year ago
@bsdmon That rule only applies to idiots who don't know how to clear/check the chamber of a weapon, or leave their weapons lying around loaded.
dirtydeedz161 1 year ago
@dirtydeedz161 and when you forget to clear the chamber and shoot someone is the rule still so stupid?
35503550 1 year ago
@35503550 Smart people never forget to clear the chamber. :)
dirtydeedz161 1 year ago
@bsdmon stfu
GR3B3N 11 months ago
@bsdmon
I heard unloaded guns can't fire a real round. Magical bullets that you can't see don't exist.
Mazchine 10 months ago
@bsdmon
No... Guns are not always loaded... Bullets don't magically appear in the magazine/chamber of a gun.
dirtydeedz161 10 months ago
@dirtydeedz161 What if one gets jammed, such as a improper shell, then you dry fire it for fun, and kill someone?What I am saying is, Never put your finger on the trigger until you are ready. Although this doesn't go for the SWAT Team, Police force, or any other forces such as those. I have had nearly 2 years of training in the SWAT (Special weapons and tactics), and I have learned from many close calls that you need to keep your trigger ready for protection.
Pwnermobile123 9 months ago
@Pwnermobile123 Check the barrel before you touch the trigger. Besides, who dry-fires a gun for "fun"? That damages the firing pin 9 times out of 10. It should be common sense not to set your finger on the trigger anyway, but not everyone (like the guys in this vide0) have that, let alone professional weapons training. Don't patronize me, I know what SWAT is short for.
dirtydeedz161 9 months ago
@dirtydeedz161 you never supposed to look down the barrel of a gun and dry firing does not damage the firing pin trust me i have done it loads of times. I am not "Patronizing" you just simply stating what is true.
TheUnsafty 9 months ago
@TheUnsafty You can look down the barrel of a gun if you know what the fuck you're doing. Guns do NOT just "Go off" on their own.
dirtydeedz161 9 months ago
@dirtydeedz161 lol, i read everything that you said and your not very bright. I have minimal knowledge of gun handling, but even i know the phrase "Every gun is loaded". He obviously didn't mean it literally, but you didn't quite catch that, did you? Also, haha "check the barrel before you touch the trigger"? Ahh yes, let's all look down the barrels of our guns before we start shooting just to make sure everything's OK. Lastly nice BS statistic about dry firing... most guns have no issue with it
curtisxxu 6 months ago
@curtisxxu
Way to jump into a 2 month old argument, you dumb fuck. How else does someone mean "Every gun is loaded" other than literally? As I'm sure I said before, bullets do not magically appear in a gun. If you know its empty, its fucking empty. "Check the barrel before you touch the trigger". Hmm... Let's see. Are all guns muzzle-loaders? No? So that means you can, say, with a semi-atuo pistol, pull the slide back to check the chamber, and not look down the barrel!
dirtydeedz161 6 months ago
@dirtydeedz161 There are other ways to interpret things other than literally genius. Also, the fact that jams and squib loads happen is enough to back up the idea that you never know if a gun is truly empty. Lastly, your last point makes no sense and only ends up going against your own intelligence in that you presented your own quote and pointed out its discrepancies. Skimmed through the 2nd comment, don't feel like arguing with a 12 year-old with access to wikipedia. plz don't reply, too lazy
curtisxxu 6 months ago
@curtisxxu LOL. Fuck, you're dumb.
dirtydeedz161 6 months ago
@dirtydeedz161 I thought i brought up the fact that you swear unnecessarily in the last comment. Guess i forgot, but you need to stop that cause it just makes people assume you're uncultured, uncivilized, and uneducated. When people swear, it's like a defense mechanism because they don't know what to say or they know they're wrong. Their only way of protection is spewing out cusses in an unsuccessful attempt to intimidate their enemy.
curtisxxu 6 months ago
@curtisxxu "Uncultured, uncivilized and uneducated"? Obviously. Not like Shakespeare ever used a swear or two. God, I bet you have a raging boner right now, hey?
dirtydeedz161 6 months ago
@dirtydeedz161 lol, his swears were there to put emphasize on carefully picked out points, not used randomly whenever he felt rage. I was actually beginning to respect and believe in your adulthood until i got to the end where you once again had to prove your immaturity.
curtisxxu 6 months ago
@curtisxxu Also, you don't know shit about firing pins or how they function.
"For most common cartridges, there are snap caps available to reduce the risk of damaging the firing pin. It is generally acceptable to dry fire more modern centerfire firearms without a cartridge or snap cap. However, dry firing a shotgun or rimfire firearm can damage the firing pin. Furthermore, damage can occur to the chamber mouth of a rimfire firearm." - Wikipedia
dirtydeedz161 6 months ago
are you thick as shit, a magazine fed weapon without a magazine on is not loaded. in this example there is no magazine but the weapon is clearly empty. TWAT
boothy2121 9 months ago
@bsdmon youtubegun police
kyleierlan 9 months ago
@bsdmon no he's doin it on purpose.. its a 'slam fire' demo
siddepoo 9 months ago
@bsdmon yeh try that procedure under fire
SiMo666suzukiRider 8 months ago
@SiMo666suzukiRider what is that supposed to mean. No matter what is going on your booger picker shouldnt be in the trigger guard until taking the shot. Most shooters naturally rest their finger out of the outside of the guard so putting it in takes no time really. If you are in a defensive situation and run around with your finger on the trigger you are just asking to have a negligent discharge. Especially if you were to trip or something.
bsdmon 8 months ago
@bsdmon what ever u say mate
SiMo666suzukiRider 8 months ago
@bsdmon im going to be real with you, you are 99.99% right the part where you are 0.01% wrong is that his target was air :P
TheMightyJerome 8 months ago
@bsdmon and since when are guns always loaded? NONE of my guns are loaded right now. When I'm shooting, as soon as my gun is pointed in the general direction of the target, I put my hand in the trigger guard, then find my target
doctarvampire 7 months ago
@doctarvampire YOU ARE A FUCKING MORON. One of the main rules of gun safety is that you treat a gun if it is always loaded. This is to prevent the "Oh don't worry it's not loaded" Mentality. Which has caused people uneducated about gun safety to kill themselves or others while doing stupid shit with a gun, because" Oh well it wasn't loaded" So you fugging tarts can keep debating that a gun physically can't be loaded when it isn't. No shit sherlock. That is not the point. Get a life.
bsdmon 7 months ago
@bsdmon Me get a life? I'm not the troll who obviously grew up around a bunch of rednecks who *think they* are gun safety experts. Now, I only shoot targets, so this doesn;t really apply to me, but think, you are in a competition and need to shoot a target as fast as you can. For that half a second it takes to put you're finger in the trigger guard, when you could be shooting, the wind hits you, you shake, or something.
doctarvampire 6 months ago
@airsoftloverusp
you called it, hes a dumbass and camera shy.
hughdini 1 year ago
@airsoftloverusp If you had actually paid attention you would have noticed that he checked to make sure it was clear after he was done firing. With no ammunition in the weapon it essentially becomes a heavy club. He would have to physically hit someone with it for it to be dangerous. Besides.. As someone mentioned before he was not pointing the gun at anyone regardless of the guns status, which I think is a more important point.
crazyfvck 1 year ago
@airsoftloverusp yeah, what an unsafe dummass. instead of gun control we need dumb control.
mia1shooter 11 months ago
@mia1shooter agreed 100%
erkoekrf 11 months ago
@airsoftloverusp did anyone besides me noticed that his buddy in the back looks bored as fuck , yawning and shit ?
patator2512 11 months ago
@patator2512 hahaha
airsoftloverusp 11 months ago
@airsoftloverusp : )
patator2512 11 months ago
@airsoftloverusp he pulled the trigger to let the hammer down...... -_-
saviorslegacy 10 months ago
wow does anyone get a little reminder of columbine by this vid?
xxMRGRENADExx 1 year ago
@xxMRGRENADExx ...wow, you a are a moron.
67mustangreg 1 year ago