you know what..i've killed 4 germans already.and im proud of it,,cuz i have killed satan's seed idol worshiper.and will kill for more.goyim are animal..today is my time to revenge....and fuck you all german catholic bastard..!!!...german anjink!!!german ngentot!!!
@Vengeance4Me79 what you're saying, you know is a load of bullshit... where exactally do you think these 10 million PEOPLE went, not only jews, but homosexuals, gypsies, handicapped people, and twins were murdered, tortured, tested upon... you think that it was a LIE??? come on....... these people can't just disappear from the face of the earth with no explanation...
Hitler was a headcase, he wasn't even German, and he had Jewish roots himself, which is quite ironic!!
@Vengeance4Me79 what you're saying, you know is a load of bullshit... where exactally do you think these 10 million PEOPLE went, not only jews, but homosexuals, gypsies, handicapped people, and twins were murdered, tortured, tested upon... you think that it was a LIE??? come on....... these people can't just disappear from the face of the earth with no explanation...
Hitler was a headcase, he wasn't even German, and he had Jewish roots himself, which is quite ironic!!
@Vengeance4Me79 what you're saying, you know is a load of bullshit... where exactally do you think these 10 million PEOPLE went, not only jews, but homosexuals, gypsies, handicapped people, and twins were murdered, tortured, tested upon... you think that it was a LIE??? come on....... these people can't just disappear from the face of the earth with no explanation...
Hitler was a headcase, he wasn't even German, and he had Jewish roots himself, which is quite ironic!!
@Vengeance4Me79: So how is that phony science of eugenics working for you, sport? You people claim intelligence, but in reality, you're a bunch of boneheaded retards. Out of nine (9 - comes after eight) Supreme Court Justices, three happen to be Jewish. That's 33%. For the first time in history, no less. There's only been eight so far in the entire history of the court. Bet that pisses you off, huh? Just when you thought you could stuff us back into the ghettos, we stay in school and succeed.
@Vengeance4Me79: You idiots think that a sawed-off runt who was once a klanner and runs stormfront and a bearded pig who sits in front of a webcam spewing racist and paranoid garbage are credible sources?
there was only ever one holocaust (holodomor) in ukraine, and that was the one where the bolshevik jews killed 20-30 million ukrainians in 1932-33, because they were gentiles.
a racist genocide straight from the text of the jewish talmud.
DieEm0s: "Bolshevik Jews" killed 30 million Ukrainians?? What history book is that found in? In a year, no less! LOL! That's pretty ambitious for a bunch of rabbis, especially after Stalin murdered them all in the purges. He wasn't Jewish, you know - He was Georgian Orthodox before becoming an atheist. Do you have any REAL knowledge of history, or do you just cut & paste propaganda off Stormfront and Jew Watch? You do know Frank Weltner and Don Black are idiots, right?
Yep. These idiots think that a sawed-off runt who was once a Klanner and runs stormfront and a bearded pig who sits in front of a webcam spewing racist and paranoid garbage are credible sources.
Zhydy in Ukraine need to leave Ukraine NOW!! You people killed my ancestors and communists killed many people in Ukraine. We don't want you in our land. We want to get rid of russian language, russians and you.
What about the Ukrainian Famine of 1932 that killed over 10 million Slavs through starvation and disease while forcing survivors to turn to cannibalism? It wasn't done by Nazis either, it was done by communist russia. No offense, but this genocide was by far worse.
So? Do two wrongs make a right? The Communists killed millions, and so did the Nazis. And millions more were caught in the middle, not knowing which way to turn, facing dead both in the east and in the west. It is the tragedy that inflicted the world: sandwiched by two evils, neither one being any lesser, but blood-thirsty oppressors.
In absolute numbers, yes. But when you reach millions of human victims, it is no longer a matter of keeping score. It is a matter of a crime that has no parallel in history.
A murderer of a few can get capital punishment. How do you punish a murderer of millions? How do you classify such a crime? Hitler, Stalin and Mao are in that category of criminals beyond punishment. Their ignominy is beyond measure.
All Christians are anti-semetic and anti-semetic. I'm glad i'm not one of them and we will await the arrival Yeshua to come and kill all christians for what they did to the Jews.
May God bless this priest and empower him too continue this work. God bless these souls, Innocent Women, children and men in Jesus Christ name I ask, Amen...
Hasidic sects are increasing in number exponentially due to a high birth rate. Now that they can travel internationally and are allowed to use DNA testing, most of the close-breeding issues associated with shtetl life are long gone.
We have still lost centuries of culture and millions of people in Europe, which is the main issue here. This video is not new information, it is further confirmation of Nazi atrocities.
You're right that the Hasidim are growing, but overall, the number of Jews outside of the land of Israel is decreasing. Assimilation, for that matter, is the new, silent Holocaust.
The atrocities committed by the Nazis are repugnant to all, but assimilation can only be repelled through Jewish commitment to survival.
And yes, the Holocaust is a historical fact, except for those who decide to remind blind to the facts.
If you can say with any certainty that there are 6.5 million dead then you should have no problem producing 6.5 bits of evidence for that claim in the simple form of their names.
No prob. As soon as you can provide the names of 20 million Russians killed in the war. Piece of cake, isn't it?
Compare how many Jews there were in Europe before the war, how many were left after, compute how many emigrated, and there you have the reminder number of dead. THAT is how you come up with 6 and a half million Jews killed in the Holocaust.
Also: we do have records from Auschwitz, but we do not have records from Treblinka. How could anyone come up with all the names?
Excuse me? Did I say something about 20 million Russians?
We can come up with a figure even remotely close to realistic by comparing pre and post war figures. The margin for error is in the millions. There are multiple sources for those counts and none of them are consistent with one another.
If you cannot come up with 6.5 million names or bodies then you cannot logically claim they even existed let alone died in the holocaust.
You have records from Auschwitz do you? Well then you know Auschwitz isn't a camp it's a series of camps and only 2 of the three books from those camps were ever recovered and the names in them do not even come close to the 1.1 million Dr. Piper claims died there.
As for Treblinka, of course you don't have any records on it. It wasn't a death camp. It was a satellite camp. A ground penetrating radar scan has shown no mass graves ever existed in that area.
O.K., Mr. Holocaust denier/WN "scholar": Why don't you educate us poor uninformed Jews on how it really went in 1930's Germany and Poland? We'll wait.......zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz!
Key elements of Holocaust denial are the rejection of any of the following: that the Nazi government had a policy of deliberately targeting Jews and people of Jewish ancestry for extermination as a people; that between five and seven million Jews were systematically killed by the Nazis and their allies; and that genocide was carried out at extermination camps using tools of mass murder, such as gas chambers.
Many Holocaust deniers do not accept the term "denial" as an appropriate description of their point of view, and use the term Holocaust revisionism instead. Scholars, however, prefer the term "denial" to differentiate Holocaust deniers from historical revisionists, who use established historical methodologies.
Most Holocaust denial claims imply, or openly state, that the Holocaust is a hoax arising out of a deliberate Jewish conspiracy to advance the interest of Jews at the expense of other peoples. For this reason, Holocaust denial is generally considered to be an antisemitic conspiracy theory. The methodologies of Holocaust deniers are often criticized as based on a predetermined conclusion that ignores extensive historical evidence to the contrary.
But feel free to "educate" us, Mr. Holocaust denier/WN "scholar", since you obviously know how everything went down - please continue you ruminations.......we'll wait....zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz!
...Stories of the Holocaust were a myth initially created by the Allies of World War II to demonize Germans. Jews spread this myth as part of a grander plot intended to enable the creation of a Jewish homeland in Palestine.
...Documentary evidence of the Holocaust, from photographs to the Diary of Anne Frank, is fabricated.
...Survivor testimonies are filled with errors, and Nazi confessions of war crimes were extracted through torture.
Holocaust denial is widely viewed as failing to adhere to rules for the treatment of evidence, principles that mainstream historians regard as basic to rational inquiry. The prevailing and virtually unanimous consensus of mainstream scholars is that the evidence given by survivors, eyewitnesses, and contemporary historical accounts is overwhelming; that this evidence proves beyond a reasonable doubt that the Holocaust occurred; and that it occurred as these sources say it occurred.
The Holocaust was well-documented by the extremely bureaucratic German government itself. It was further witnessed by the Allied forces who entered Germany and its associated Axis states towards the end of World War II. Among the evidence produced was film and stills that showed the existence of prisoner camps, as well as the testimony of those freed when the camps were entered.
The Holocaust was a massive undertaking that lasted for years and was implemented across several countries, with its own command and control infrastructure, a bureaucracy that left a large trail of documentation. Although Nazi officials made attempts to destroy evidence of the Holocaust when it became evident that their defeat was imminent, substantial documentation remained.
After the Nazi defeat, many documents were recovered, including numerous reports written by the Nazis about the number of Jews killed, records of train shipments of Jews to the camps, orders for tons of cyanide and other poisons, and large numbers of photographs and films of the camps and their victims.
Your turn, Mr Holocaust denier/WN scholar. You fools can deny all you want. Cover for criminals to your hearts desire. Be a prancing, goose-stepping nazi if you want. We don't care. Your lies mean nothing to the average Jew. It will never happen again....ever. We win, you lose........
The Nazis boasted to have killed six and a half million Jews. They were obsessed with accuracy. Besides, the Holocaust is one of the most researched historical subjects of the XX century. What room is there to doubt the historicity of the facts? Holocaust deniers do not have a clue what they're talking about. We have very clear evidence both of the truth of the Holocaust, and the size of the crime. Six and a half million is the number.
There are no 6.5 million bodies, but there are over-used crematoria, and rivers that turned back with the ashes. There is still samples of the soap made from human fat. The Nazis were careful to both document what they were doing, and to erase the physical existence of the Jews they so much wanted to erase from the face of the earth. But history has the record, your denial of the undeniable can only fool yourself.
Okay here we go. Your first comment is to point out that you're Jewish, You are hoping that stating you are Jewish will make it seem like you have some extraordinary supernatural connection with the holocaust beyond what anyone else has. Not so, stop trying.
Second post, I can agree with those three things being the main things.
Real scholars do not call them Deniers. Third post, A REAL scholar knows what historical revisionism is and respects it. A bigot calls them deniers.
fourth post, claiming that you have some special knowledge of what most holocaust deniers believe is idiotic, at best. Some do believe that and it is demonstrably true that many Jewish people use the holocaust for gain.
fifth post and sixth posts are garbage.
seventh post, we can go over those claims as well, if you want. There are some truths to what you're talking about in that post.
Oh you're hear now. Good because your manner of posting is idiotic. You probably didn't expect me to respond to such loud vague and idiotically long and useless comments but here I am. What do you wish to argue over first?
Ever since the opening of the Red Cross Archives in Bad Arolsen, Germany 2 years ago, the WN/Holocaust denial community has been scrambling to do damage control. They have been claiming no records exist of the murdered and missing. This archive is a real death knell to their propaganda over the last six decades. Only fools and those with a wicked agenda still attempt to deny these things took place.
Incorrect, The Bad Arolsen community doesn't have 6 million names. When the Red Cross first released a headcount from the names they did have, before they opened the doors to the public, they only had 300,000. This was a while ago. Bad Arolsen is usually touted as having "Miles of Victims" for the length of paper products it has on it's shelves but the evidence for the 6 million. Is it there? Nope.
Realmag: I don't know where you get your 300,000 figure, but it's not from the current Bad Arolsen Red Cross Archive, which contains personal details on more than 17 million people who went through the concentration camp and slave labour system. If you doubt these files exist, email them and find out for yourself. But, I don't think you have the moral courage to do that - deniers rarely do, instead choosing to rely on "their" experts, like Smith, Butz, Irving, Carto, and of course, Weltner.
Realmag: The Nazis also boasted of killing over 5 million non-Jews during their reign of terror. Are you going to deny those atrocities took place as well? Those deaths were not the result of war action or combat. They were the direct result of the camps and the mobile killing squads (einsatzgruppen).
It is important to understand that 17 million names does not mean 17 million people who A: died during the WWII era, B: Died in a concentration camp or C: were victims of the so called holocaust or gas chambers. Victims is a broad term. Even people who were in Germany during WWII and weren't arrested but were Jewish are considered to be victims and are eligible for reparations. The 300,000 figure was a release by the red cross in the 70's before your cousins took the place over.
therealmag: Point my Jewishness has nothing to do with an argument of the historicity of the Holocaust. I have nothing to "try". You're the one trying to deny history.
Revisionism is only good when it doesn't fall into cynicism.
Deniers are those who deny the proven history. The dimension of the Holocaust is not a matter of dispute, all serious investigators arrive to the same conclusions: it did happen, it was aimed at exterminating the Jews, and it killed 6 1/2 million Jews.
No, all the "serious" investigators that arrive at a conclusion you're pleased with are dubbed "serious" investigators by you. All those who disagree are deniers. You're a bigot, just like I said. You're claiming that world class engineer Walter Luftl isn't a Serious investigator? Max Plank Chemist Germar Rudolf isn't a serious investigator?
Even Fred Leuchter who was at the time the US only expert on death devices isn't a serious investigator? Please.
All scientists are deniers. It's the nature of science to not believe the results of a study. If only you could understand the simplicity, and complexity, of why that exists in science.
Well, come on, you talk a good game about the holocaust lets debate it. What do you want to start with? Right now we are simply spinning our wheels over stupid shit. Pick something. We can continue with Bad Arolsen, we can move on to the Yad Vashem, we can discuss Auschwitz Birkenau or Stammlager, Dachau, Buchenwald, Treblinka, we can discuss documents, we can discuss witnesses, whatever you want. I am fairly well read on the subject.
No. Scientists aren't deniers. Those who take on history subjectively, not objectively, are. The deniers' club starts from the point they want to arrive: to deny the Holocaust. Then, they work their way into twisting and even making up information to sustain their goal. They're not scientists. They're deniers.
Objective investigators look at the historical evidence and derive their honest conclusions from it.
Yes actually, they are. That's why part of the scientific method is to test a hypothesis and to distribute the study so that others may test it. It's the nature of science. Why can't you understand that?
If someone was intellectually honest, even if they started from the hypothetical denial of the Holocaust, the overwhelmingly abundant evidence would not allow them to continue with the denial.
You'd have an easier time proving that the Internet wasn't yet invented, and the legend of it's existence must therefore be an imposition of the Jewish conspiracy. LOL
So start producing some of this evidence. If it is an overwhelming abundance of it then you should have no problem finding it. Although I find it hard to believe that you can do better than Deborah Lipstadts Attorneys did in producing their "evidence" in a court of law. Even then David Irving tore their "overwhelming abundant" physical evidence to shreds. The judge (gray) even admitted that he was astounded at the lack of physical evidence and how flimsy it was. Hes isn't the first judge either.
realmag: Max Planck died in 1947, before Holocaust denial even surfaced. To my knowledge, there are no articles written by him where he denies the official historical records of Nazi atrocities. If such articles exist, please share them with us. Walter Luftl had to resign as head of the engineering association because of his controversial article, and the Austrian police raided his house, and rightfully so. It's a crime in Austria to deny the Holocaust. David Irving spent time in jail for that.
Max Plank, you fucking idiot, had a learning institution named after him. Hence, "Max Plank Chemist Germar Rudolf". I am not surprised about your ignorance on this even though the school is one of the best on the face of the earth.
Walter Luftl did have to resign. Big deal. He resigned because of the controversy it brought to the Engineering Association &, as you said, it is a crime to attempt to revise history. What's your point? More character assassination attempts by the looks of it.
Oh I assume that after I have destroyed you enough you'll delete all the comments and block me anyways. That's why I have copied our conversation and made screenshots. I will make a video about it :). I have learned that most of your type doesn't like debate when you lose and are quick to delete and block.
Realmag: No, unfortunately for you, you haven't made a dent in me. You have ranting like a 5-year old child whose parents won't give him a cookie. You come on my channel, throwing your bullshit accusations and names around, then threaten to "make a video" of "my defeat"? What an arrogant little prick you are! You sound like "Snotty Scotty Roberts", who does block Jews after he can't debate them enough. But we're straying from the subject at hand?
I have been calmly explaining fact to you and you have been attempting to assassinate the credentials and character of people with far more experience and education than you. I only seem arrogant because you know I am making a fool out of you. I think Scott Roberts is not me and has no relevance to our discussion. Maybe he does that but I am here to debate and so far you have failed to deliver.
O.K..You mean Fred Leuchter, the "self-proclaimed execution expert and manufacturer of death machinery" who was charged in a New Jersey court in 1990 with practicing engineering without a license, and was sentenced to 2 years probation? They should have tossed him in jail. That "expert"? The one who defended Ernst Zundel at his trial? You do know that both of the prison wardens he allegedly worked for testified they never had an arrangement with Leuchter for any execution devices.
This is funny. You are attempting character assassination. It's not working. He did work with prisons and was the leading consultant in the US. You know who testified to that fact in a court of law? A warden named William Armontrout. Aside from all your character assassination attempts Leuchters study (the Leuchter Report) was upheld by further studies carried out by Germar Rudolf an expert Chemist.
In 1994, Rudolf was sentenced to 14 months in prison by the district court of Tübingen because of the "Rudolf Report", as Holocaust denial is a crime in Germany. Rudolf avoided prison by fleeing to Spain, England and finally to Chicago, USA. There, he applied for political asylum, but his request was denied. In October 2005, Rudolf was arrested and deported to Germany on November 15.
There on arrival, he was arrested by police authorities and transferred to a prison in Stuttgart-Stammheim in Baden-Württemberg. On March 15, the Mannheim District Court sentenced Germar Rudolf to two years and six months in prison for inciting hatred, disparaging the dead, and libel. Rudolf was also expelled from the Max Planck Institute for his unauthorised use of the institute's name to get samples analysed that were taken from the gas chamber sites at Auschwitz and Birkenau.
More character assassination. I assume this is because you have not even read the Rudolf Report. You're basically attempting to claim that because he was demonized and imprisoned for studying history that it automatically makes him wrong. That's what you're attempting anyways. I think it's more of a testament against the justice system than Germar Rudolf and I am sure you don't understand that either.
It's also painfully obvious that you are googling away for your answers. I thought you had a good debate but one would assume that since you didn't even know about the Max Plank institute (you had to google it and got it wrong thinking he was a denier)you didn't know about Germar Rudolf either. I invite you to read free copies of the Rudolf Report (which I doubt you will understand as it is a scientific work) and Rudolf's less popular but infinitely better book Lectures on the Holocaust. VHOorg
I never said Max Planck was a holocaust denier. Where did I say that? Don't put words in my mouth, son. Max Planck died in 1947. Just because a few deniers use his name to gain credibility in the scientific community, that doesn't mean Planck held those same views. Once again, you WN's make things up as you go along, to try to display an air of respectibility.
Oh but you did. You said "Max Planck died in 1947, before Holocaust denial even surfaced. To my knowledge, there are no articles written by him where he denies the official historical records of Nazi atrocities. If such articles exist, please share them with us".
Clear indication that you had to google him and were looking for a holocaust denier. Stop talking about the Max Plank Institute as if you know what it is.
No, I believe you were the one who brought up Max Planck's name, not me. I do know about him and the institute that bears his name. And I don't have to google to find Holocaust deniers. There's one on my site right now - you. And it's painfully obvious to me that you bottom-feed on hate sites to gain "information" for your debating sessions. So, Nu? You can't get an education without cracking a book, boy. It just depends on what books you crack, and if they're credible or not.
Here we have you lying again. Twice. First, you didn't say that at all. You copied and pasted it from Wikipedia. Second, you only acknowledged that it was Institute AFTER I told you that fact.
You see, Maggie (can I call you Maggie?), it's called research, something you obviously have a twisted definition of. I'm not a scientist, so I have to research the subject, and let the real experts do the speaking for me. Most of the lame, anti-Semitic fools you WN's trot out as "authorities" on various Holocaust subjects have either no expertise in the fields of historical forensics, chemistry, or history. The 1 or 2 that do have been discredited and disowned by their respective communities.
You're not a scientist, you haven't studied the subject, you don't know what you're talking about on 99% of the topics we discussed. Yes, I know this already that is painfully obvious. This is why I am going to make a video about this conversation with you. Which 1 or 2 have been discredited and WHY? I bet it's because laws against studying the holocaust rather than any real evidence against their claims isn't it? You bet it is.
Realmag: My post about an hour ago: "Rudolf was also expelled from the Max Planck Institute for his unauthorised use of the institute's name to get samples analysed that were taken from the gas chamber sites at Auschwitz and Birkenau."
Of course I looked it up. Don't you do research? I don't consider myself the master of all knowledge like you WN's do. No wonder Ernst Zundel believes in flying saucers, and reptilian aliens in human form! LOL!
An hour ago? I have the truth here in my screenshots. They say : 1 hour ago I made my original comment about Max Plank Chemist Germar Rudolf. 36 minutes ago you said he wasn't a holocaust denier. 31 minutes ago I taught you about Max Plank Institute. Aside from that Rudolf didn't lie about anything. He told them where he studied and they let him in. The instute was trying to save face. It became wrong when people like you bitched and moaned and made the institute react.
And yes I research. What I don't do is make videos about a subject before I research them, like you are doing here, then argue about it with someone who has a much larger understanding of the subject than I.
In October 1990, the state of Massachusetts brought criminal charges against Leuchter for representing himself as an engineer without a license. Leuchter not only lacks an engineering license but has neither an engineering degree nor any other relevant professional certification or recognized credential — his education consists of a BA in history, which he completed in 1964. He admits to having no formal training in toxicology, biology or chemistry.
Unfortunately for you Leuchter merely collected the samples for his report. His input was more on the construction of the gas chambers the chemistry was left up to a certified chemist whom he sent the samples too.
It's true that he wasn't an engineer but just as Germar Rudolf, a qualified chemist, proved that his chemistry results were true Walter Luftl (by your admission the head of an engineering association) confirmed that Leuchter was correct in that regard as well.
In 1988, Leuchter traveled to several sites of structures identified as gas chambers, where, although he did not have permission to do so, he collected samples from walls, ceilings and floors, using a chisel and hammer to chip and scrape off pieces of the masonry. He did not examine the walls of the gas chambers until fifty years after they had been used; it would have been virtually impossible to discover any cyanide at all using his method.
In fact, tests conducted on ventilation grates immediately after the end of the war showed substantial amounts of cyanide. Plus, his bludgeoning away with a rock hammer pulverized the samples and diluted the cyanide residue within. The chambers were demolished by the Nazis when they abandoned Auschwitz, and the facilities Leuchter examined were, in fact, partially reconstructed, so he had no way of knowing if the bricks he was scraping were actually part of the original gas chamber.
Iron Blue compounds do not disappear genius. It doesn't matter when the tests are done they will still be there. To this day there are pieces of outside delousing facilities with the exact same dark blue staining on them after being subjected to rain & weather for 60 years. Leucther also videotaped himself taking the samples genius. His samples were from the correct chambers and correct locations.
It also shows him taking sample in the video (You can see him doing in the movie "mr. death" genius) and his samples were properly taken and consistent with other findings by the 3 other people who did the same studies there. What is claimed is that the amount of cement within the samples was crushed instead of scraped and therefore diluted the test. This is impossible, however, as the test doesn't even react to cement and only to the cyanide compounds only showing the amount of cyanide residue.
So by resourcing to flawed, pseudo scientific exposition you think you can get away with denying the massive criminal actions of the Nazis that lead directly to the disappearance of Europe's biggest Jewish communities, and a hole in the Jewish population of the world that suddenly reduced world Jewry from 16 to 9 1/2 million.
Of course the gas chambers contain traces of Zyklon B, go to Poland and smell it yourself!
Of course the gas chambers contained traces of Zyklon B. Every building in Europe that had been fumigated in those days was fumigated with Zyklon B. Zyklon B was THE delousing and fumigation agent used by everyone back then.
You're still attempting to claim that it's accurate to use pre and post war headcounts even though there are many sources for these headcounts and none of them are consistent with one another.
You just contradicted yourself. Those were GAS chambers. The Zyklon B taints the walls blue, still visible more than 60 years later. The chambers were closed hermetically, as to not let gas out. And we do have the eyewitness testimony of those who had to take the corpses out of them after the daily mass killings.
The Jewish communities of Europe did not evaporate, we have all conclusive evidence to know they were murdered there.
You are not entitled to your own facts. It DID happen!
None of the so called "gas chambers" actually have blue staining on the walls. The Delousing facilities do but zyklon b wasn't used in the so "gas chambers" enough to stain, nor was it used enough to leave any serious traces detectable by chemical testing.
Of they didn't evaporate, now just show us 6.5 million names to prove those people even existed let alone died in the holocaust.
That only goes to show you haven't seen the gas chambers with your own eyes. The blue stains are right there, visible after more than 60 years.
You haven't responded about the TESTIMONY of the eyewitnesses and survivors. I had an uncle who survived Auschwitz, so I know testimonies first hand.The prisoners still alive were in charge of collecting the bodies from the gas chambers, checking them for gold teeth, and taking them to the crematoria.
Truth is there, clear for everyone who wants to see.
The truth is clear? Show us pictures of the blue stains. There are none and you cannot produce any pictures of them. The only buildings with blue stains are the delousing facilities. You're intentionally lying now, I know how you Jews do that to try and annoy people and frustrate them to quit arguing with you. I've seen it done a thousand times.
My grandpa was a holocaust survivor as well and he was not a Jew he was an allied Soldier housed with the Jews. He told me most of the people killed there were killed by other inmates and that there were no gas chambers and that he was treated fairly like the rest of them.
You see, I can say anything I want about witnesses too. Does it make it true? You decide.
Tens of thousands prisoners were "Still alive" in Auschwitz when they decided to MOVE THEM via marching. Aka the famous "death march" where the 60,000 prisoners were moved to another camp. You're full of shit. Are you saying that those 60,000 people were all moving bodies from the downstairs of the crematory to the upstairs where the furnaces are? Are you even aware they had elevators in the basement to the crematory to move bodies up from the cold storage rooms that you think are gas chambers?
How come every Jew who "survived the holocaust" seems to have a story about either how they hid in a chimney to survive or how they worked in the gas chambers or made soap out of bodies, etc. etc.
I told you, I don't care about witnesses. Anyone can say anything about everything. It doesn't make it true. They can say there were gas chambers all they want but if there are no names or bodies or physical evidence that makes them liars. How about Paul Rassenier? Is he a witness?
Of course, without witnesses and ignoring all evidence, having disposed of the corpses in crematoria, the Nazis committed the perfect crime. People like you will hypocritically reject anything that will prove otherwise. Survivor's obviously bother you. It would have been easier to make your case if no one would sing, wouldn't it?
Please see my comment above Rafrab, this cretin does care. as you surmised, he cares all too much and in the direction of something morally reprehensible.
If you "don't care about witnesses," then why are you here??? The truth is that you care very much, but in the obverse, if not perverse, direction. You want people to believe that there were no witnesses, ergo there was no Holocaust. So let's be articulate: you care very much, but in the direction of evil.
When you're killing millions, the thousands of survivors are a mere drop in the ocean. But since the war finished 63 years ago, there are less survivors alive every day. It makes the deniers work easier. Had Hitler killed us all, you could claim there was never such a thing as a Jewish people. Sorry to disappoint you: we're here to stay.
No, because there is evidence that there was a Jewish religion. I am looking for evidence that there was 6 million killed in the holocaust. Witnesses have been kicked off the stands in courts. Witnesses have told outrageously ridiculous stories. Witnesses, like Elie Wiesel, have deliberately doctored photographs. Witnesses lie. There are rock solid forensic techniques which can tell us all we need to know, unfortunately you guys always block attempts at testing. Why?
I am just reading all this. I am catholic so I have no pressure to support either side of the discussion. Nevertheless, I think that people who hate Jews are just for me an indirect proof that Holocaust could really have happened.
If Jews want to make up a story about genocide, it's their business. History is full of similar situations, but I think the only ones who would have the right to be upset, would be the Germans.
There is no doubt in my mind that the holocaust COULD have happened. That isn't the question, the question is if the holocaust DID happen and to what extent.
Jews use the holocaust to manipulate opinion. It is used to effectively label people, from peasants to millionaires, as anti-semites and silence them.
It's also a lie and shouldn't be in History books and taught to impressionable children every year of their academic life.
Btw, being a catholic you should know that Jews hate Jesus.
poor people :(
greekdeva7 1 year ago
Great work of great priest
pnti 1 year ago
PROUD TO BE JEWISH!
sweetzionist93 1 year ago
@Vengeance4Me79
you know what..i've killed 4 germans already.and im proud of it,,cuz i have killed satan's seed idol worshiper.and will kill for more.goyim are animal..today is my time to revenge....and fuck you all german catholic bastard..!!!...german anjink!!!german ngentot!!!
kidon80 1 year ago
@kidon80
then you`re a fucking criminal low life racist asshole
FriendlyCroock 9 months ago
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@Vengeance4Me79 what you're saying, you know is a load of bullshit... where exactally do you think these 10 million PEOPLE went, not only jews, but homosexuals, gypsies, handicapped people, and twins were murdered, tortured, tested upon... you think that it was a LIE??? come on....... these people can't just disappear from the face of the earth with no explanation...
Hitler was a headcase, he wasn't even German, and he had Jewish roots himself, which is quite ironic!!
so think before you speak
sachita14 1 year ago
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@Vengeance4Me79 what you're saying, you know is a load of bullshit... where exactally do you think these 10 million PEOPLE went, not only jews, but homosexuals, gypsies, handicapped people, and twins were murdered, tortured, tested upon... you think that it was a LIE??? come on....... these people can't just disappear from the face of the earth with no explanation...
Hitler was a headcase, he wasn't even German, and he had Jewish roots himself, which is quite ironic!!
so think before you speak
sachita14 1 year ago
@Vengeance4Me79 what you're saying, you know is a load of bullshit... where exactally do you think these 10 million PEOPLE went, not only jews, but homosexuals, gypsies, handicapped people, and twins were murdered, tortured, tested upon... you think that it was a LIE??? come on....... these people can't just disappear from the face of the earth with no explanation...
Hitler was a headcase, he wasn't even German, and he had Jewish roots himself, which is quite ironic!!
so think before you speak
sachita14 1 year ago
@Vengeance4Me79: So how is that phony science of eugenics working for you, sport? You people claim intelligence, but in reality, you're a bunch of boneheaded retards. Out of nine (9 - comes after eight) Supreme Court Justices, three happen to be Jewish. That's 33%. For the first time in history, no less. There's only been eight so far in the entire history of the court. Bet that pisses you off, huh? Just when you thought you could stuff us back into the ghettos, we stay in school and succeed.
ravdov571 1 year ago
@Vengeance4Me79: You idiots think that a sawed-off runt who was once a klanner and runs stormfront and a bearded pig who sits in front of a webcam spewing racist and paranoid garbage are credible sources?
Comical.
ravdov571 1 year ago
there was only ever one holocaust (holodomor) in ukraine, and that was the one where the bolshevik jews killed 20-30 million ukrainians in 1932-33, because they were gentiles.
a racist genocide straight from the text of the jewish talmud.
DieEm0s 3 years ago
DieEm0s: "Bolshevik Jews" killed 30 million Ukrainians?? What history book is that found in? In a year, no less! LOL! That's pretty ambitious for a bunch of rabbis, especially after Stalin murdered them all in the purges. He wasn't Jewish, you know - He was Georgian Orthodox before becoming an atheist. Do you have any REAL knowledge of history, or do you just cut & paste propaganda off Stormfront and Jew Watch? You do know Frank Weltner and Don Black are idiots, right?
ravdov571 3 years ago
Yep. These idiots think that a sawed-off runt who was once a Klanner and runs stormfront and a bearded pig who sits in front of a webcam spewing racist and paranoid garbage are credible sources.
UCSPanther20 3 years ago
Can't expect these braindead nazis to know anything but fiction. vicious evil cunts, all of them
Musicofthissphere 2 years ago
die em...I am Jewish...do you have a problem?
dudemantwo 2 years ago
prove it, where are the bodies?
beswick1111 2 years ago
Zhydy in Ukraine need to leave Ukraine NOW!! You people killed my ancestors and communists killed many people in Ukraine. We don't want you in our land. We want to get rid of russian language, russians and you.
Nadav34 3 years ago 2
nadav...is a Nazi...
Who would want to be in your land...?
nadav...Sevastopol and Crimea are Russian...may Russia recapture The Ukraine...and Russify it...
dudemantwo 2 years ago
What about the Ukrainian Famine of 1932 that killed over 10 million Slavs through starvation and disease while forcing survivors to turn to cannibalism? It wasn't done by Nazis either, it was done by communist russia. No offense, but this genocide was by far worse.
liberty1488 3 years ago
So? Do two wrongs make a right? The Communists killed millions, and so did the Nazis. And millions more were caught in the middle, not knowing which way to turn, facing dead both in the east and in the west. It is the tragedy that inflicted the world: sandwiched by two evils, neither one being any lesser, but blood-thirsty oppressors.
rafvrab 3 years ago
Communism has killed more people than the Nazis ever did. That's a fact, not an opinion.
liberty1488 3 years ago
In absolute numbers, yes. But when you reach millions of human victims, it is no longer a matter of keeping score. It is a matter of a crime that has no parallel in history.
A murderer of a few can get capital punishment. How do you punish a murderer of millions? How do you classify such a crime? Hitler, Stalin and Mao are in that category of criminals beyond punishment. Their ignominy is beyond measure.
rafvrab 3 years ago
hahahah this video made my day hahah i love it when people get killed it is so fun have a great day people!
BaronGillesdeRais 3 years ago
/watch?v=n5sg8hHCbbk
GoyGenius 4 years ago
All Christians are anti-semetic and anti-semetic. I'm glad i'm not one of them and we will await the arrival Yeshua to come and kill all christians for what they did to the Jews.
Jtaylor1 4 years ago
taylor...at least Christians can spell anti-Semitic...what are you talking about?
did you know the earliest Christians were Jews?
Stop being a horse's ass...
dudemantwo 4 years ago
"All Christians are anti-semetic" No, they are not all like that. You're talking to one that is not anti-semitic. The one's that are, are a minority.
jumpacliff2 4 years ago
Nazism never died- it is alive and
nurtured and cultivated expanded by a new generation of fascists and Marxists
(Muslim Brotherhood)
JoliePrincessKatana 4 years ago
May God bless this priest and empower him too continue this work. God bless these souls, Innocent Women, children and men in Jesus Christ name I ask, Amen...
Rainman0422 4 years ago
6,500,000 Jews were murdered in the Holocaust. In over 60 years we haven't recovered the number of the Jews alive back in 1939.
rafvrab 4 years ago
Hasidic sects are increasing in number exponentially due to a high birth rate. Now that they can travel internationally and are allowed to use DNA testing, most of the close-breeding issues associated with shtetl life are long gone.
We have still lost centuries of culture and millions of people in Europe, which is the main issue here. This video is not new information, it is further confirmation of Nazi atrocities.
ChoofMonster 4 years ago
You're right that the Hasidim are growing, but overall, the number of Jews outside of the land of Israel is decreasing. Assimilation, for that matter, is the new, silent Holocaust.
The atrocities committed by the Nazis are repugnant to all, but assimilation can only be repelled through Jewish commitment to survival.
And yes, the Holocaust is a historical fact, except for those who decide to remind blind to the facts.
rafvrab 4 years ago
6.5 million huh? Where are the names?
If you can say with any certainty that there are 6.5 million dead then you should have no problem producing 6.5 bits of evidence for that claim in the simple form of their names.
therealmag 3 years ago
No prob. As soon as you can provide the names of 20 million Russians killed in the war. Piece of cake, isn't it?
Compare how many Jews there were in Europe before the war, how many were left after, compute how many emigrated, and there you have the reminder number of dead. THAT is how you come up with 6 and a half million Jews killed in the Holocaust.
Also: we do have records from Auschwitz, but we do not have records from Treblinka. How could anyone come up with all the names?
rafvrab 3 years ago
Excuse me? Did I say something about 20 million Russians?
We can come up with a figure even remotely close to realistic by comparing pre and post war figures. The margin for error is in the millions. There are multiple sources for those counts and none of them are consistent with one another.
If you cannot come up with 6.5 million names or bodies then you cannot logically claim they even existed let alone died in the holocaust.
therealmag 3 years ago
You have records from Auschwitz do you? Well then you know Auschwitz isn't a camp it's a series of camps and only 2 of the three books from those camps were ever recovered and the names in them do not even come close to the 1.1 million Dr. Piper claims died there.
As for Treblinka, of course you don't have any records on it. It wasn't a death camp. It was a satellite camp. A ground penetrating radar scan has shown no mass graves ever existed in that area.
therealmag 3 years ago
If you want to talk Holocaust I will be glad to do it but you sound like you don't know much about it.
therealmag 3 years ago
O.K., Mr. Holocaust denier/WN "scholar": Why don't you educate us poor uninformed Jews on how it really went in 1930's Germany and Poland? We'll wait.......zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz!
ravdov571 3 years ago
Key elements of Holocaust denial are the rejection of any of the following: that the Nazi government had a policy of deliberately targeting Jews and people of Jewish ancestry for extermination as a people; that between five and seven million Jews were systematically killed by the Nazis and their allies; and that genocide was carried out at extermination camps using tools of mass murder, such as gas chambers.
ravdov571 3 years ago
Many Holocaust deniers do not accept the term "denial" as an appropriate description of their point of view, and use the term Holocaust revisionism instead. Scholars, however, prefer the term "denial" to differentiate Holocaust deniers from historical revisionists, who use established historical methodologies.
ravdov571 3 years ago
Most Holocaust denial claims imply, or openly state, that the Holocaust is a hoax arising out of a deliberate Jewish conspiracy to advance the interest of Jews at the expense of other peoples. For this reason, Holocaust denial is generally considered to be an antisemitic conspiracy theory. The methodologies of Holocaust deniers are often criticized as based on a predetermined conclusion that ignores extensive historical evidence to the contrary.
ravdov571 3 years ago
But feel free to "educate" us, Mr. Holocaust denier/WN "scholar", since you obviously know how everything went down - please continue you ruminations.......we'll wait....zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz!
ravdov571 3 years ago
The three key claims of Holocaust deniers are:
...The Nazis had no official policy or intention of exterminating Jews.
...Nazis did not use gas chambers to mass murder Jews.
...The figure of 5-6 million Jewish deaths is a gross exaggeration, and the actual number is an order of magnitude lower.
ravdov571 3 years ago
Other claims include the following:
...Stories of the Holocaust were a myth initially created by the Allies of World War II to demonize Germans. Jews spread this myth as part of a grander plot intended to enable the creation of a Jewish homeland in Palestine.
...Documentary evidence of the Holocaust, from photographs to the Diary of Anne Frank, is fabricated.
...Survivor testimonies are filled with errors, and Nazi confessions of war crimes were extracted through torture.
ravdov571 3 years ago
Holocaust denial is widely viewed as failing to adhere to rules for the treatment of evidence, principles that mainstream historians regard as basic to rational inquiry. The prevailing and virtually unanimous consensus of mainstream scholars is that the evidence given by survivors, eyewitnesses, and contemporary historical accounts is overwhelming; that this evidence proves beyond a reasonable doubt that the Holocaust occurred; and that it occurred as these sources say it occurred.
ravdov571 3 years ago
The Holocaust was well-documented by the extremely bureaucratic German government itself. It was further witnessed by the Allied forces who entered Germany and its associated Axis states towards the end of World War II. Among the evidence produced was film and stills that showed the existence of prisoner camps, as well as the testimony of those freed when the camps were entered.
ravdov571 3 years ago
The Holocaust was a massive undertaking that lasted for years and was implemented across several countries, with its own command and control infrastructure, a bureaucracy that left a large trail of documentation. Although Nazi officials made attempts to destroy evidence of the Holocaust when it became evident that their defeat was imminent, substantial documentation remained.
ravdov571 3 years ago
After the Nazi defeat, many documents were recovered, including numerous reports written by the Nazis about the number of Jews killed, records of train shipments of Jews to the camps, orders for tons of cyanide and other poisons, and large numbers of photographs and films of the camps and their victims.
ravdov571 3 years ago
Your turn, Mr Holocaust denier/WN scholar. You fools can deny all you want. Cover for criminals to your hearts desire. Be a prancing, goose-stepping nazi if you want. We don't care. Your lies mean nothing to the average Jew. It will never happen again....ever. We win, you lose........
ravdov571 3 years ago
The Nazis boasted to have killed six and a half million Jews. They were obsessed with accuracy. Besides, the Holocaust is one of the most researched historical subjects of the XX century. What room is there to doubt the historicity of the facts? Holocaust deniers do not have a clue what they're talking about. We have very clear evidence both of the truth of the Holocaust, and the size of the crime. Six and a half million is the number.
rafvrab 3 years ago
There are no 6.5 million bodies, but there are over-used crematoria, and rivers that turned back with the ashes. There is still samples of the soap made from human fat. The Nazis were careful to both document what they were doing, and to erase the physical existence of the Jews they so much wanted to erase from the face of the earth. But history has the record, your denial of the undeniable can only fool yourself.
rafvrab 3 years ago
Okay here we go. Your first comment is to point out that you're Jewish, You are hoping that stating you are Jewish will make it seem like you have some extraordinary supernatural connection with the holocaust beyond what anyone else has. Not so, stop trying.
Second post, I can agree with those three things being the main things.
Real scholars do not call them Deniers. Third post, A REAL scholar knows what historical revisionism is and respects it. A bigot calls them deniers.
therealmag 3 years ago
Realmag: Care to give us a few names of the folks you call "real scholars"?
ravdov571 3 years ago
fourth post, claiming that you have some special knowledge of what most holocaust deniers believe is idiotic, at best. Some do believe that and it is demonstrably true that many Jewish people use the holocaust for gain.
fifth post and sixth posts are garbage.
seventh post, we can go over those claims as well, if you want. There are some truths to what you're talking about in that post.
therealmag 3 years ago
Oh you're hear now. Good because your manner of posting is idiotic. You probably didn't expect me to respond to such loud vague and idiotically long and useless comments but here I am. What do you wish to argue over first?
therealmag 3 years ago
Ever since the opening of the Red Cross Archives in Bad Arolsen, Germany 2 years ago, the WN/Holocaust denial community has been scrambling to do damage control. They have been claiming no records exist of the murdered and missing. This archive is a real death knell to their propaganda over the last six decades. Only fools and those with a wicked agenda still attempt to deny these things took place.
ravdov571 3 years ago
Incorrect, The Bad Arolsen community doesn't have 6 million names. When the Red Cross first released a headcount from the names they did have, before they opened the doors to the public, they only had 300,000. This was a while ago. Bad Arolsen is usually touted as having "Miles of Victims" for the length of paper products it has on it's shelves but the evidence for the 6 million. Is it there? Nope.
therealmag 3 years ago
Realmag: I don't know where you get your 300,000 figure, but it's not from the current Bad Arolsen Red Cross Archive, which contains personal details on more than 17 million people who went through the concentration camp and slave labour system. If you doubt these files exist, email them and find out for yourself. But, I don't think you have the moral courage to do that - deniers rarely do, instead choosing to rely on "their" experts, like Smith, Butz, Irving, Carto, and of course, Weltner.
ravdov571 3 years ago
Realmag: The Nazis also boasted of killing over 5 million non-Jews during their reign of terror. Are you going to deny those atrocities took place as well? Those deaths were not the result of war action or combat. They were the direct result of the camps and the mobile killing squads (einsatzgruppen).
ravdov571 3 years ago
It is important to understand that 17 million names does not mean 17 million people who A: died during the WWII era, B: Died in a concentration camp or C: were victims of the so called holocaust or gas chambers. Victims is a broad term. Even people who were in Germany during WWII and weren't arrested but were Jewish are considered to be victims and are eligible for reparations. The 300,000 figure was a release by the red cross in the 70's before your cousins took the place over.
therealmag 3 years ago
therealmag: Point my Jewishness has nothing to do with an argument of the historicity of the Holocaust. I have nothing to "try". You're the one trying to deny history.
Revisionism is only good when it doesn't fall into cynicism.
Deniers are those who deny the proven history. The dimension of the Holocaust is not a matter of dispute, all serious investigators arrive to the same conclusions: it did happen, it was aimed at exterminating the Jews, and it killed 6 1/2 million Jews.
rafvrab 3 years ago
No, all the "serious" investigators that arrive at a conclusion you're pleased with are dubbed "serious" investigators by you. All those who disagree are deniers. You're a bigot, just like I said. You're claiming that world class engineer Walter Luftl isn't a Serious investigator? Max Plank Chemist Germar Rudolf isn't a serious investigator?
Even Fred Leuchter who was at the time the US only expert on death devices isn't a serious investigator? Please.
therealmag 3 years ago
"Please" what? Hanging around the deniers' club doesn't shine any light on history's truth.
rafvrab 3 years ago
All scientists are deniers. It's the nature of science to not believe the results of a study. If only you could understand the simplicity, and complexity, of why that exists in science.
therealmag 3 years ago
Well, come on, you talk a good game about the holocaust lets debate it. What do you want to start with? Right now we are simply spinning our wheels over stupid shit. Pick something. We can continue with Bad Arolsen, we can move on to the Yad Vashem, we can discuss Auschwitz Birkenau or Stammlager, Dachau, Buchenwald, Treblinka, we can discuss documents, we can discuss witnesses, whatever you want. I am fairly well read on the subject.
therealmag 3 years ago
No. Scientists aren't deniers. Those who take on history subjectively, not objectively, are. The deniers' club starts from the point they want to arrive: to deny the Holocaust. Then, they work their way into twisting and even making up information to sustain their goal. They're not scientists. They're deniers.
Objective investigators look at the historical evidence and derive their honest conclusions from it.
rafvrab 3 years ago
Yes actually, they are. That's why part of the scientific method is to test a hypothesis and to distribute the study so that others may test it. It's the nature of science. Why can't you understand that?
therealmag 3 years ago
If someone was intellectually honest, even if they started from the hypothetical denial of the Holocaust, the overwhelmingly abundant evidence would not allow them to continue with the denial.
You'd have an easier time proving that the Internet wasn't yet invented, and the legend of it's existence must therefore be an imposition of the Jewish conspiracy. LOL
rafvrab 3 years ago
So start producing some of this evidence. If it is an overwhelming abundance of it then you should have no problem finding it. Although I find it hard to believe that you can do better than Deborah Lipstadts Attorneys did in producing their "evidence" in a court of law. Even then David Irving tore their "overwhelming abundant" physical evidence to shreds. The judge (gray) even admitted that he was astounded at the lack of physical evidence and how flimsy it was. Hes isn't the first judge either.
therealmag 3 years ago
realmag: Max Planck died in 1947, before Holocaust denial even surfaced. To my knowledge, there are no articles written by him where he denies the official historical records of Nazi atrocities. If such articles exist, please share them with us. Walter Luftl had to resign as head of the engineering association because of his controversial article, and the Austrian police raided his house, and rightfully so. It's a crime in Austria to deny the Holocaust. David Irving spent time in jail for that.
ravdov571 3 years ago
Max Plank, you fucking idiot, had a learning institution named after him. Hence, "Max Plank Chemist Germar Rudolf". I am not surprised about your ignorance on this even though the school is one of the best on the face of the earth.
Walter Luftl did have to resign. Big deal. He resigned because of the controversy it brought to the Engineering Association &, as you said, it is a crime to attempt to revise history. What's your point? More character assassination attempts by the looks of it.
therealmag 3 years ago
"you fucking idiot"? if you don't can the personal insults, you're gone from here, kapish?
ravdov571 3 years ago
Oh I assume that after I have destroyed you enough you'll delete all the comments and block me anyways. That's why I have copied our conversation and made screenshots. I will make a video about it :). I have learned that most of your type doesn't like debate when you lose and are quick to delete and block.
therealmag 3 years ago
Realmag: No, unfortunately for you, you haven't made a dent in me. You have ranting like a 5-year old child whose parents won't give him a cookie. You come on my channel, throwing your bullshit accusations and names around, then threaten to "make a video" of "my defeat"? What an arrogant little prick you are! You sound like "Snotty Scotty Roberts", who does block Jews after he can't debate them enough. But we're straying from the subject at hand?
ravdov571 3 years ago
Not a dent, a hole. Now I am reaming it out.
I have been calmly explaining fact to you and you have been attempting to assassinate the credentials and character of people with far more experience and education than you. I only seem arrogant because you know I am making a fool out of you. I think Scott Roberts is not me and has no relevance to our discussion. Maybe he does that but I am here to debate and so far you have failed to deliver.
therealmag 3 years ago
O.K..You mean Fred Leuchter, the "self-proclaimed execution expert and manufacturer of death machinery" who was charged in a New Jersey court in 1990 with practicing engineering without a license, and was sentenced to 2 years probation? They should have tossed him in jail. That "expert"? The one who defended Ernst Zundel at his trial? You do know that both of the prison wardens he allegedly worked for testified they never had an arrangement with Leuchter for any execution devices.
ravdov571 3 years ago
This is funny. You are attempting character assassination. It's not working. He did work with prisons and was the leading consultant in the US. You know who testified to that fact in a court of law? A warden named William Armontrout. Aside from all your character assassination attempts Leuchters study (the Leuchter Report) was upheld by further studies carried out by Germar Rudolf an expert Chemist.
therealmag 3 years ago
In 1994, Rudolf was sentenced to 14 months in prison by the district court of Tübingen because of the "Rudolf Report", as Holocaust denial is a crime in Germany. Rudolf avoided prison by fleeing to Spain, England and finally to Chicago, USA. There, he applied for political asylum, but his request was denied. In October 2005, Rudolf was arrested and deported to Germany on November 15.
ravdov571 3 years ago
There on arrival, he was arrested by police authorities and transferred to a prison in Stuttgart-Stammheim in Baden-Württemberg. On March 15, the Mannheim District Court sentenced Germar Rudolf to two years and six months in prison for inciting hatred, disparaging the dead, and libel. Rudolf was also expelled from the Max Planck Institute for his unauthorised use of the institute's name to get samples analysed that were taken from the gas chamber sites at Auschwitz and Birkenau.
ravdov571 3 years ago
More character assassination. I assume this is because you have not even read the Rudolf Report. You're basically attempting to claim that because he was demonized and imprisoned for studying history that it automatically makes him wrong. That's what you're attempting anyways. I think it's more of a testament against the justice system than Germar Rudolf and I am sure you don't understand that either.
therealmag 3 years ago
It's also painfully obvious that you are googling away for your answers. I thought you had a good debate but one would assume that since you didn't even know about the Max Plank institute (you had to google it and got it wrong thinking he was a denier)you didn't know about Germar Rudolf either. I invite you to read free copies of the Rudolf Report (which I doubt you will understand as it is a scientific work) and Rudolf's less popular but infinitely better book Lectures on the Holocaust. VHOorg
therealmag 3 years ago
I never said Max Planck was a holocaust denier. Where did I say that? Don't put words in my mouth, son. Max Planck died in 1947. Just because a few deniers use his name to gain credibility in the scientific community, that doesn't mean Planck held those same views. Once again, you WN's make things up as you go along, to try to display an air of respectibility.
ravdov571 3 years ago
Oh but you did. You said "Max Planck died in 1947, before Holocaust denial even surfaced. To my knowledge, there are no articles written by him where he denies the official historical records of Nazi atrocities. If such articles exist, please share them with us".
Clear indication that you had to google him and were looking for a holocaust denier. Stop talking about the Max Plank Institute as if you know what it is.
therealmag 3 years ago
No, I believe you were the one who brought up Max Planck's name, not me. I do know about him and the institute that bears his name. And I don't have to google to find Holocaust deniers. There's one on my site right now - you. And it's painfully obvious to me that you bottom-feed on hate sites to gain "information" for your debating sessions. So, Nu? You can't get an education without cracking a book, boy. It just depends on what books you crack, and if they're credible or not.
ravdov571 3 years ago
I said, specifically "Max Plank Chemist Germar Rudolf". Can you please learn to read really quick before we continue.
therealmag 3 years ago
And I said specifically that Rudolf was kicked out of the Institute for fraud.
ravdov571 3 years ago
Here we have you lying again. Twice. First, you didn't say that at all. You copied and pasted it from Wikipedia. Second, you only acknowledged that it was Institute AFTER I told you that fact.
therealmag 3 years ago
You see, Maggie (can I call you Maggie?), it's called research, something you obviously have a twisted definition of. I'm not a scientist, so I have to research the subject, and let the real experts do the speaking for me. Most of the lame, anti-Semitic fools you WN's trot out as "authorities" on various Holocaust subjects have either no expertise in the fields of historical forensics, chemistry, or history. The 1 or 2 that do have been discredited and disowned by their respective communities.
ravdov571 3 years ago
You're not a scientist, you haven't studied the subject, you don't know what you're talking about on 99% of the topics we discussed. Yes, I know this already that is painfully obvious. This is why I am going to make a video about this conversation with you. Which 1 or 2 have been discredited and WHY? I bet it's because laws against studying the holocaust rather than any real evidence against their claims isn't it? You bet it is.
therealmag 3 years ago
Realmag: My post about an hour ago: "Rudolf was also expelled from the Max Planck Institute for his unauthorised use of the institute's name to get samples analysed that were taken from the gas chamber sites at Auschwitz and Birkenau."
Of course I looked it up. Don't you do research? I don't consider myself the master of all knowledge like you WN's do. No wonder Ernst Zundel believes in flying saucers, and reptilian aliens in human form! LOL!
ravdov571 3 years ago
An hour ago? I have the truth here in my screenshots. They say : 1 hour ago I made my original comment about Max Plank Chemist Germar Rudolf. 36 minutes ago you said he wasn't a holocaust denier. 31 minutes ago I taught you about Max Plank Institute. Aside from that Rudolf didn't lie about anything. He told them where he studied and they let him in. The instute was trying to save face. It became wrong when people like you bitched and moaned and made the institute react.
therealmag 3 years ago
And yes I research. What I don't do is make videos about a subject before I research them, like you are doing here, then argue about it with someone who has a much larger understanding of the subject than I.
therealmag 3 years ago
Or, more correctly for this video, post them then defend them.
therealmag 3 years ago
In October 1990, the state of Massachusetts brought criminal charges against Leuchter for representing himself as an engineer without a license. Leuchter not only lacks an engineering license but has neither an engineering degree nor any other relevant professional certification or recognized credential — his education consists of a BA in history, which he completed in 1964. He admits to having no formal training in toxicology, biology or chemistry.
ravdov571 3 years ago
Unfortunately for you Leuchter merely collected the samples for his report. His input was more on the construction of the gas chambers the chemistry was left up to a certified chemist whom he sent the samples too.
It's true that he wasn't an engineer but just as Germar Rudolf, a qualified chemist, proved that his chemistry results were true Walter Luftl (by your admission the head of an engineering association) confirmed that Leuchter was correct in that regard as well.
therealmag 3 years ago
In 1988, Leuchter traveled to several sites of structures identified as gas chambers, where, although he did not have permission to do so, he collected samples from walls, ceilings and floors, using a chisel and hammer to chip and scrape off pieces of the masonry. He did not examine the walls of the gas chambers until fifty years after they had been used; it would have been virtually impossible to discover any cyanide at all using his method.
ravdov571 3 years ago
In fact, tests conducted on ventilation grates immediately after the end of the war showed substantial amounts of cyanide. Plus, his bludgeoning away with a rock hammer pulverized the samples and diluted the cyanide residue within. The chambers were demolished by the Nazis when they abandoned Auschwitz, and the facilities Leuchter examined were, in fact, partially reconstructed, so he had no way of knowing if the bricks he was scraping were actually part of the original gas chamber.
ravdov571 3 years ago
Iron Blue compounds do not disappear genius. It doesn't matter when the tests are done they will still be there. To this day there are pieces of outside delousing facilities with the exact same dark blue staining on them after being subjected to rain & weather for 60 years. Leucther also videotaped himself taking the samples genius. His samples were from the correct chambers and correct locations.
therealmag 3 years ago
It also shows him taking sample in the video (You can see him doing in the movie "mr. death" genius) and his samples were properly taken and consistent with other findings by the 3 other people who did the same studies there. What is claimed is that the amount of cement within the samples was crushed instead of scraped and therefore diluted the test. This is impossible, however, as the test doesn't even react to cement and only to the cyanide compounds only showing the amount of cyanide residue.
therealmag 3 years ago
So by resourcing to flawed, pseudo scientific exposition you think you can get away with denying the massive criminal actions of the Nazis that lead directly to the disappearance of Europe's biggest Jewish communities, and a hole in the Jewish population of the world that suddenly reduced world Jewry from 16 to 9 1/2 million.
Of course the gas chambers contain traces of Zyklon B, go to Poland and smell it yourself!
rafvrab 3 years ago
Of course the gas chambers contained traces of Zyklon B. Every building in Europe that had been fumigated in those days was fumigated with Zyklon B. Zyklon B was THE delousing and fumigation agent used by everyone back then.
You're still attempting to claim that it's accurate to use pre and post war headcounts even though there are many sources for these headcounts and none of them are consistent with one another.
therealmag 3 years ago
You just contradicted yourself. Those were GAS chambers. The Zyklon B taints the walls blue, still visible more than 60 years later. The chambers were closed hermetically, as to not let gas out. And we do have the eyewitness testimony of those who had to take the corpses out of them after the daily mass killings.
The Jewish communities of Europe did not evaporate, we have all conclusive evidence to know they were murdered there.
You are not entitled to your own facts. It DID happen!
rafvrab 3 years ago
None of the so called "gas chambers" actually have blue staining on the walls. The Delousing facilities do but zyklon b wasn't used in the so "gas chambers" enough to stain, nor was it used enough to leave any serious traces detectable by chemical testing.
Of they didn't evaporate, now just show us 6.5 million names to prove those people even existed let alone died in the holocaust.
therealmag 3 years ago
That only goes to show you haven't seen the gas chambers with your own eyes. The blue stains are right there, visible after more than 60 years.
You haven't responded about the TESTIMONY of the eyewitnesses and survivors. I had an uncle who survived Auschwitz, so I know testimonies first hand.The prisoners still alive were in charge of collecting the bodies from the gas chambers, checking them for gold teeth, and taking them to the crematoria.
Truth is there, clear for everyone who wants to see.
rafvrab 3 years ago
The truth is clear? Show us pictures of the blue stains. There are none and you cannot produce any pictures of them. The only buildings with blue stains are the delousing facilities. You're intentionally lying now, I know how you Jews do that to try and annoy people and frustrate them to quit arguing with you. I've seen it done a thousand times.
therealmag 3 years ago
My grandpa was a holocaust survivor as well and he was not a Jew he was an allied Soldier housed with the Jews. He told me most of the people killed there were killed by other inmates and that there were no gas chambers and that he was treated fairly like the rest of them.
You see, I can say anything I want about witnesses too. Does it make it true? You decide.
therealmag 3 years ago
Tens of thousands prisoners were "Still alive" in Auschwitz when they decided to MOVE THEM via marching. Aka the famous "death march" where the 60,000 prisoners were moved to another camp. You're full of shit. Are you saying that those 60,000 people were all moving bodies from the downstairs of the crematory to the upstairs where the furnaces are? Are you even aware they had elevators in the basement to the crematory to move bodies up from the cold storage rooms that you think are gas chambers?
therealmag 3 years ago 2
How come every Jew who "survived the holocaust" seems to have a story about either how they hid in a chimney to survive or how they worked in the gas chambers or made soap out of bodies, etc. etc.
I told you, I don't care about witnesses. Anyone can say anything about everything. It doesn't make it true. They can say there were gas chambers all they want but if there are no names or bodies or physical evidence that makes them liars. How about Paul Rassenier? Is he a witness?
therealmag 3 years ago 4
Of course, without witnesses and ignoring all evidence, having disposed of the corpses in crematoria, the Nazis committed the perfect crime. People like you will hypocritically reject anything that will prove otherwise. Survivor's obviously bother you. It would have been easier to make your case if no one would sing, wouldn't it?
rafvrab 3 years ago
Please see my comment above Rafrab, this cretin does care. as you surmised, he cares all too much and in the direction of something morally reprehensible.
WonderWomanUS 3 years ago
If you "don't care about witnesses," then why are you here??? The truth is that you care very much, but in the obverse, if not perverse, direction. You want people to believe that there were no witnesses, ergo there was no Holocaust. So let's be articulate: you care very much, but in the direction of evil.
WonderWomanUS 3 years ago
When you're killing millions, the thousands of survivors are a mere drop in the ocean. But since the war finished 63 years ago, there are less survivors alive every day. It makes the deniers work easier. Had Hitler killed us all, you could claim there was never such a thing as a Jewish people. Sorry to disappoint you: we're here to stay.
rafvrab 3 years ago
No, because there is evidence that there was a Jewish religion. I am looking for evidence that there was 6 million killed in the holocaust. Witnesses have been kicked off the stands in courts. Witnesses have told outrageously ridiculous stories. Witnesses, like Elie Wiesel, have deliberately doctored photographs. Witnesses lie. There are rock solid forensic techniques which can tell us all we need to know, unfortunately you guys always block attempts at testing. Why?
therealmag 3 years ago 6
I am just reading all this. I am catholic so I have no pressure to support either side of the discussion. Nevertheless, I think that people who hate Jews are just for me an indirect proof that Holocaust could really have happened.
If Jews want to make up a story about genocide, it's their business. History is full of similar situations, but I think the only ones who would have the right to be upset, would be the Germans.
So why do you get angry?
Do you hate Jews?
piercoucy 3 years ago
There is no doubt in my mind that the holocaust COULD have happened. That isn't the question, the question is if the holocaust DID happen and to what extent.
Jews use the holocaust to manipulate opinion. It is used to effectively label people, from peasants to millionaires, as anti-semites and silence them.
It's also a lie and shouldn't be in History books and taught to impressionable children every year of their academic life.
Btw, being a catholic you should know that Jews hate Jesus.
therealmag 3 years ago 5
therealmag...The Roman Catholic Church has a lot of Jewish blood on its frocks...
therealmag are you Protestant or Christian?
dudemantwo 2 years ago
I am not religious.
therealmag 2 years ago
Well said Rafvrab. I'm glad to see a fellow Catholic finally doing something worthwhile in the pursuit of Holocaust studies.
WonderWomanUS 3 years ago
Rafvrab isn't a Catholic, he is a Jew and he doesn't have a single clue what he is talking about.
therealmag 3 years ago 16
Unlike you, I work for a living, so I have to go to bed. Nighty.
ravdov571 3 years ago
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therealmag 3 years ago
Thank you, thank you, thank you.
NWesterner 4 years ago
Thank you!
rabrasem 4 years ago