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  • Albanians are Turks, Greeks, Gypsies, Roma, homeless people, Bulgarians, Pomaks and the devil knows what else. Illyrians have kinship with the Dalmatians and Croats then mixed with Epiroter Greeks. You have to learn history. Not to be confused with raki. Arwaniter are Greeks, Kastriotis was Greek.

  • FUCK YOU troyans was illyrians stooped motherfucker,dardanians was illyrians asshole,epirotes was illyrians,paiones was illyrians,

  • Τ'αρχίδια μου είναι φυσικά τα αρχαιότερα! Άντε τελειώνετε, γιατί έκανε κάτι καταπληκτικές δηλώσεις η Μενεγάκη σήμερα!

  • JEALOUS SON OF A SLAVIC BITCH ....WE ARE ILLYRIAN DEAL WITH IT BITCH

  • @EndiLivinExtralarge yes and slavs of fyrom are macedonians the same as you are illirian....pfffff desperate losers

  • Many linguists have confirmed that only 2 languages in the Balkans have a fair amount of vocabulary which is of Thraco-Illyrian origins: Albanian and Romanian. i think the Italic people(oscans) were closer in speech to the Celts rather than the Illyrians.

  • @blackarawak83 but many of them claim "Albanians dont have nothing with Ilirians" and how could they when hostory knows when where and how they come... Albanians - Ilirians is political bulshit and dream of idiots

  • Sllavs came in the balkans in the 7th centuury,the world knows it,and every smart sllavic person admits that fact,but some dumbasses like the guy who uploaded this video,can not admit the fact,that he is not a descedant of Alexander the Great....PLS people stop stealing history from the greeks and albanians,dont be jealous..not every nation can have old history!

  • @Bigthelegend1972 The first Albanian school opened in Korca in 1887.The first Albanian school in Kosova opened in Prizren in 1889.The first Albanian school for girls opened in Korce in 1891." by Serbian Dositej Obradovic...and dont use sign like = between you and Greeks shame on you idiots

  • this documentary tells the truth that the ancient hellada is a myth and todays greece is a fake state, a mixature of turks, arabs, slavs and albanian arvanites who become the elite of greece.

    Evan my grandfather calls himself greek because of this fake propaganda but i discovered the truth... in 1812 in peloponese lived 60,000 turks and 150,000 aravanite albanian, in a population of 300,000, so you know who you are ''greeks''.This video is censured by the greek church but it is on you tube....

  • hhahahahahaha and he dares to call his self aravanite legacy, filthy arabian greeks, because you have no cennection to hellens...i am orthodox albanian and my grandfather is arvanitas....

    this one who has done the video is offending every arvanitas who gave the indipendence to the turkish greece, i am offended that this arab uses this name, there is a video done by the greeks profesors, historians and scientists where they admitt , that todays greece is a mixature of turks,arabs,slavs, albanians

  • Lol we know who we are the only people who are brainwashed are the albanians who have been assimulated retard*

  • Term " Indo - European " is pure propaganda.

  • Yo-sx_JaJg4 enjoy steve

  • Greeks tought Illiryans how to read, speak, and live!! Albanians are the offspring of Turks!!

  • @steve81132 hahah are they really,,?LOL there is over 12,000 turkish words in grek language,,Do i have to prove it to you?Please say yes

  • @illyrianalbanian100 Yes please do, my well educated friend!

  • @steve81132 well look at the below and copy paste.

  • @illyrianalbanian100 Fool, Turks were 500 years in Serbia, even longer in Greek. How do you think we got their words? And thanks to them, you now exist as "Albanians". Oh, sorry, as Shiqupers. That's how you call your selves - Shiquperia. Thats how the map says. And yes, they brain washed you so you think you are what you are now. Pathetic...

  • @PMCEHeaven HAHA hey pig,,We existted way before you migrated to balkans,,Our language is native to balkans unlike your russian bulgarian gypsy language,Think what use all want the fact it Im right your wrong and you are burning inside because you all know im right,So go and fuck you father you carpathian monkey,,

  • the gaida(pipes) instrument is awesome i see everywhere where celts went people play this instrument

  • Older in the Balkans is my grandfather. He is 127 years old (and still looking good) and he is Greek of course!

  • The albanians are not even illyrians. they came from the province called albania in the kaspian sea. they are mongols great grand sons of the Turks. At past they used to say that their ancestors were Turks then that they were Venetians and now that are illyrians. Tommoroe maybe they say that they are Americans. Who ever feeds this dogs is their ancestors.

  • illyrians thracians dacians are serbs ... :) 

  • @stoYkeez bahahahahhaha..lets talk some thracian?ZI mal i.apa.I got hundreds more lol silly serv you are carpathian monkey.I can give you words from all 3 that we speak..

  • Illyrians are actually serbs

  • DNA TEST, IGENEA.COM CONFIRM ILIRIANS ARE BOSNIANS AND CROATIANS

  • @MACEDONIANPAVLEMKD the only thing that igenea has proven is that the Slavs in FYROM who call themselves as "Macedonians" are Serbs and Bulgarians. same genes, same names, same language, same heritage. you dont have nothing with old Macedonians

    Bosnians and Croatians are from Slavic tribes that entered Europe after 7th century A.D

    Albanians are the closest people to ancient Macedonians and illyrians

    Macedonia is land and history of the Albanians

    half of Macedonia is already liberated

  • greeks are new comers,same like turkish,slavs.hungarian,gypsy

  • THE GREEKS WERE AROUND ATLEAST 1000 YEARS BEFORE THE ILLYRIAN TRIBES. YES TRIBES THAT CAME INTO THE AREA. AND NO, ALBANIANS HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH ILLYRIANS. SERBIANS DO,

  • @DJVBasil YOU ARE DELUSIONAL BUDDY LIKE MOST SERBS. EVERYONE KNOWS FOR A FACT THAT SERBIANS CAME TO THE BALKAN IN THE 6TH - 7TH CENTURY THEREFORE YOU GOT NOTHING TO DO WITH ILIRIANS OR GREEKS. GET USED TO THE TRUTH OR SHUT THE F*** UP.

  • THERE WAS NO SUCH THING AS "ALBANIA" BACK THEN. ALBANIANS ARE NOT ILLYRIAN.

  • @DJVBasil Omg albanian are Illyrian look wikipedia dummer boy

  • @MergimAce WIKIPEDIA???? YOURE AN IDIOT HAHAHAHA.

  • @DJVBasil Omg shut up men

  • @MergimAce YOU REALLY ARE.

  • @DJVBasil YOU ARE A EITHER A CLOSE MINDED IDIOT OR YOU CHOOSE TO BE ONE EITHER WAY DO SOME RESEARCH THAT WAS NOT WRITTEN BY A SERB OR A GREEK. ALBANI WAS AN ILLYRIAN TRIBE LOCATED WHERE ALBANIA IS NOW. THAT'S FOR YOU PEOPLE WHO ARE TOO LAZY TO DO RESEARCH AND READ STUPID COMMENTS BY PEOPLE SUCH AS DJVBasil.

  • @ORTOPLINI YOU SERIOUSLY NEED TO GO AND STUDY HARD EVIDENCE INSTEAD OF READING BOOKS BASED ON BULLSHIT.

  • MAcedonian are the OLDEST people in whole EUROPE dont forget that ! 

  • who gives a fuck

  • Illyrians !!!!!!

  • type on youtube ANCIENT SERBIA

  • Illyrians are Serbs!! But that is only one part of Serbian tribe. Thracians or Racians (Raseni) also.

  • Illyrians were descendants of the people whom fled Troy - Illium upon it's destruction, settling here around 1200 - 1100 BC. The Trojans were Ionian Hellenes.

  • @shockolanu Yes, and Ilija is how Serbs say God!!! One more evidence that Illyrians are Serbs. Best Regards!!!

  • @velikistrumfjr

    And now I must ask you... who came first? The Illyrians or the Serbs?

    How can an ancient population be of Serbian origins since Serbs arrived with the Slavic migrations?

    I believe Illija comes from the Hebrew word Elijah. You are free to contradict me.

  • @shockolanu Illyrians are Serbs (Serbs, Croats, Macedonians...). There was no Slavic migrations. It is a fraud, very stupid one. There is no one evidence of Slavic migrations. Slavs are first Europe Danube civilization. There are evidences fore continuity of culture more than 7000years old. Statue found near Belgrade with 4C symbol more than 7000years old. Ilija is top God in Serbian Pantenon. He is a God of thunder, and when Greeks came they copied Serbian pantenon and changed his name to Zeus.

  • @velikistrumfjr

    Man, go get a history book and start reading.

  • @velikistrumfjr serbians Croats and Macedonians dont have nothing to do with illyrians

    illyrian is name language and identify of Albanians

  • @IllyriaLion Čečen you didnt went back to Caucasus. I see that you not writing to me any more. Did you read something and learn in meantime. Did you maybe found your first evidence that Serbs are not Illyrians. How much they pay you to work on this stupid propaganda and look very stupid? Dont do it under 1000E, dont lose your soul fore small money. See you on Kosovo&Metohija very soon!!!

  • @velikistrumfjr HAHA THAT'S THE FUNNIEST THING I'VE HEARD.

    SLAVS MIGHT HAVE SOME ILIRIAN BLOOD BUT ALBANIANS ARE THE ONLY TRUE SURVIVING ILIRIANS. EVERYONE KNOWS BUT SOME DON'T ADMIT IT. GET THE TRUTH ABSORB IT INTO YOUR MIND BECAUSE IT IS AS REAL AS THE COMPUTER YOU ARE READING THIS MESSAGE FROM.

  • @ORTOPLINI Albanians are from Caucasus brought in 11th century by Byzantine general George Maniac. Illyrians a Serbs, Croats, Bosnians and others Dinaric nations. Albanians are Illyrians as much as they are mixed with Serbs. Skadar is old Serbian city. It was Capital of Serbia fore more than 1000 years. Albanian language is same like Azerbaijan, and there is Albania in Azerbaijan. Case closed, you lose, you are from Asia :)

  • @velikistrumfjr k we are from azerbaijan in albania hahah we still older than you all,.,And by the way serbs are from the carpathian mountains you monkey,you are pigs the lowest form of gypsys,you are ethnic gypsy from the trees of carpathian go eat a banana

  • Greek names sound same as diseases.

  • @lukaqota

    I suppose that your names sound the same to the Greeks.

  • You all know countries like United States of America and Canada. USA is more knows than Canada in our days because they have Hollywood, US army and so on. After 2000 years from today this does not mean that the USA is older than Canada just because they were more visible in history and showed off. Even more does not mean that people of Canada do not exist anymore in the future just because they minded their business during the history. My conlusion is USA=Greece and Canada=Illyrian(Albania).

  • wHAT MAKES Albanians to be decetans of Northern Illyrians??

    NOTHING But enver Hoxha propaganda

    THe reality is that Bosniaks Croats Albanians and Serbs all have Illyrian origin. But Albanians are the only one who keept the Illyrian language.

    While Greeks are GREEKS

    But Albanians have problem to accept the reality, and now Greeks dont want to accept the reality eather. Very stupid from all sides.

    all people in Balkan are a huge MESS!!!!!!!!

  • The most ancient and oldest people in Balkans and Europe are the Thracians..and so know Bulgarians and partly Romanians..today.

    BUT.. between the Greeks and Illyrians - Of course that the Illyrians are longer time in the Balkans.

  • @MrSwatbg Ofcurs Ilyrians are older than greeks. Greeks come on Balkans (south part - islands) from Africa. Before that greeks were called "danaya" and were slaves of Finikians. After the fall down of their empire greeks came to Balknas. The so called "greek inventions" are not actually greek, but Thrakian, Ilirian, Persian, Finikian. Greeks steal from them(us) and than Romens steal from Greeks. You must be idiot not to know that.

  • @MrSwatbg The Illyrians have been there for as long as the name "gur" has been spoken by them and todays albanians since the beginning of the European civilizations 8000 years ago. When there was no such civilization as greeks in the balkan area Research the word "Gur" (albanian name for rock) and you'll find some interesting articles just how old the Illyrians are.

  • @ORTOPLINI GUR lol i have tryed to tell these stupid serbs about this,It is one of the oldest words in the world.

  • Bulgarians are the oldest people on the Balkans. But in different times we were called with diferent names. All who were called Thracheans are actually - Bulgarians. Schythians, Moesians, Myrmydons etc - all Bulgarians. And it is documanted very properly, even by greeks.

  • @Jigov

    Yes, you should call yourselves the Serbs. because you are. Real Bulgarian tribe is Tatar tribe, not Slavic. And today's Bulgarians are 95% Slavic. Today's Serbs and Bulgarians are the same by origin, religion, customs etc. We are brothers1

  • @aleksandarzezelj hahahahahahahah When we had country on Balkans where were you "serbs"? hahahahahahhahahahah

  • @Jigov

    I told you... Bulgarian tribe came in 5th cent and took some serbian land. But these bulgarians dont exist, You should be proud to have serbian origin, especially if ur from western bulgaria

  • @aleksandarzezelj no Bulgarian tribe did not come 5th century. Bulgarian people never left balkans, just one part of them. Thrakians = Bulgarians. Different empires gave different names. In Greek documents it says Bulgarian country at 18 century B.C. with ruling dynasty and developed religions system. You serbians cannot talk about anything, you have your language, religion and culture from Bulgarians. Look Russians, at least they dont deny it, why you?

  • @Jigov

    Thracians is from Rascians. You have Ras in Serbia, "first" Serbian state (Wiena-nordic history) was called Raska. You have Russians today. Just follow slavic language. I agree that Bulgarians are old nation, but before that we were all Serbs. All Slavs came from the Balkans. Vinca (5000BC), Lepenski Vir (7000BC). Genetics shows that Serbs are native on the Balkans and in whole Europe (Slavs).. Bulgarians are close to Serbs, also we have similar language, we can understand each other

  • Russians are saying that they are from Balkans. You need to understand that all of us, as we call ourselves Slavs, are one race - cradle of Europe's civilization.

  • @aleksandarzezelj Slavs are not race, neither a nation. Acutally. Do you know what the word " race" means? About 2nd, yes we are cradle of europe civilization, but not only we. Europe is today because Balkan people (Bulgarians, Serbia, Ilirians and Greeks) and because of Persian Empire. Because Greeeks become powerefull because they are influnced by PErsian from South and by Trakians (North). Trache people = People who live nort. direct translation. There is not nation trache. Its a nickname.

  • @aleksandarzezelj Everyone knows that the Thracians are the FIRST Europeans and the ones who created the European civilization. Everyone today knows that the Thracians are the ancestor of the Bulgarians and little part - Romanians.

    Thing like ''Slavi language'' NOT exist. The so called ''Slavic'' language is the old-Bulgarian. Even RUSSIAN proffesors made FILMS about that the Bulgarians gave alphabet and language to ALL who today call themselves ''Slavic;;.

  • @aleksandarzezelj Before the Danube Bulgarian Empire to be destroyed by the Turks, the Serbians were LONG time in this empire which clearly explain why you have similar language to ours..as almost all in the Balkans.. which were the Danube Bulgarian Empire's teritory.

  • @aleksandarzezelj About why the Russians and the rest of all Slavic countries speak similar language to the Bulgarian one.. very simple - Great Bulgaria and Volga Bulgaria. Both of them rulled the lands on which today on the map you see that many ''Slavic'' countries with similar language.

  • @aleksandarzezelj

    The Bulgarians didnt came in Balkans in 5th century. All time we are here, just part of us was rulled by the Byzantines until the FREE part of Thracians (Bulgarians) invaded Byzantium from North and free the rest of the Thracians. The ''free part Thracians'' are these who go in the lands of todays Afghanistan WHEN the Greeks invaded Thracia. After long time, they just back to Balkans from NORTH and invaded Byzantium.

  • @MrSwatbg Така е. От мен да знаеш, навсякъде където пише: Траки, Скити, Мизи, Мирмидонци, и всички други прякори, които са давани на нас - Българите, значи играе нечия пропаганда. А на всякъде, където се говори за "славянска" писменост, език или народност или нация - НЯМА ТАКАВА, има български език, народност, нация, култура, писменост и тн. Само за поправка.

  • @MrSwatbg напиши това в търсачката: ИСТОРИЯ НА БЪЛГАРИТЕ ( БЪЛГАРО - ТРАКИЙСКИ ВРЪЗКИ ) много добро видео, ще ти хареса :)

  • @MrSwatbg You are an idiot. Thrace is a greek word. Also you came here in the 5th century. From ancient historians hrace is tought to be Greek. Please you ruin the Bulgarian history by sayinmg these kind of things

  • @mokro97 Idiot you will call to your father. not to me...silly dog.

    When our ancestors the Thracians created the European civilization, your GREEK ancestors WEREN"T INVADED them (Thracians) yet. By saying you're Thracian means you saying you're Bulgarian because its one same thing.

    Even TODAY have ABSOLUTELY same Greek folk clothes as Ethiopian ones. Idiot.

  • @MrSwatbg ANd also . EVERY SINGLE ancient GREEK historian and chronist wrote about the Thracians as DIFFERENT SEPARATED tribes with who THE GREEKS FOUGHT MANY TIMES.

    You have NO IDEA what Greek ancient historians and chronist wrote - SHAME for you.

    Read what your ancient ancestors WROTE, not what today the Greeks pseudo-historians write..because they write how everyone is Greek. Dont be silly and respect your ancestors.

  • @MrSwatbg You are also a ultranationalist brainwashed idiot. Refer me exact segments of ancient Greek historians refering to the Aegian Tharcians as barbarians, not those close to modern day Romania. When did the Greeks invade Thrace? Wtf is the stupidity about the Ethiopains. According to studies from Standford, Pavia, and Moscow univesrity we Greeks have nothing to do with Ethiopians. Our folk clothing has nothing to do with their you idiot. Foustanella and fesi, tsarouxia wtf you are inept

  • @MrSwatbg Even your countrymen now see what a real inept moulos you are. What uropean civillization? What Eurpoean civillization? The name Europe itself is Greek. I fwe are not Europians Europe is not Europian cause, it is HELLLENIC myth. Learn history and then speak

  • @mokro97 Such an idiot like you is dificult to see often. The name of Europe is Greek? No, you wrong. Not only Europe. Africa, America, Asia, Oceania... ALL ARE GREEK. The world is Greek, the Moon is Greek. Even the aliens are with Greek origin. The air too. The sun also...

    What an idiot. Hide yoursef somewhere, kid..

  • @MrSwatbg About Europe. It is an ancient Greek myth.he mythographers tell that Zeus was enamored of Europa and decided to seduce or ravish her, the two being near-equivalent in Greek myth. He transformed himself into a tame white bull and mixed in with her father's herds. While Europa and her female attendants were gathering flowers, she saw the bull, caressed his flanks, and eventually got onto his back. Zeus then ran to the sea and swam, with her on his back, to the island of Crete

  • @mokro97 And this sounds like something realistic? You're awesome..

  • @MrSwatbg He then revealed his true identity, and Europa became the first queen of Crete. Zeus gave her a necklace made by Hephaestus[19] and three additional gifts: Talos, Laelaps and a javelin that never missed. Zeus later re-created the shape of the white bull in the stars, which is now known as the constellation Taurus. Some readers interpret as manifestations of this same bull the Cretan beast that was encountered by Hercules, the Bull slain by Theseus (and that fathered the Minotaur). 

  • @mokro97 Do you have idea what you claim? The myths are far from the realistic. Zeus is person about which is wroten many...but person which not existed.. specially in the real life when the real civilization was created. The Greek Mythology is nice to read, but it is more near just fantasy and SO FAR from realism.

  • @MrSwatbg According to Herodotus' rationalizing approach, Europa was kidnapped by Minoans who were seeking to avenge the kidnapping of Io, a princess from Argos. His variant story may have been an attempt to rationalize the earlier myth; or the present myth may be a garbled version of facts — the abduction of a Phoenician aristocrat — later enunciated without gloss by Herodotus.

  • @MrSwatbg The etymology of her Greek name (ευρυ- "wide" or "broad" + οπ– "eye(s)" or "face") suggests that Europa as a goddess represented the lunar cow, at least on some symbolic level. Metaphorically, at a later date her name could be construed as the intelligent or open-minded, analogous to glaukopis (γλαυκώπις) attributed to Athena. However, Ernest Klein suggests a possible Semitic origin in Akkadian erebu "to go down, set" (in reference to the sun) which would parallel occident.

  • @mokro97 When our ancestors created the European civilization, then for the world was wonder that someday will exist idiots like you. Stupid, uneducated, brainwashed idiot.

  • @MrSwatbg Your lack of agruementation and you ingorance, subsequent to your low IQ, are so pathetic. With this last comment you have lost the debate.

  • @mokro97 I have no lost nothing. I just provocating you because its great to se such an idiot like you to show lack of knowleges more and more :))

  • @MrSwatbg i thought that the monkeydonians and the Albanians were the brainwahsed ones, but you are the worst. Go and enclose yourself into a mental institution, little, child.

  • @mokro97 The Albanians - I dont think so. But between the monkeys and you - have no difference.

    Can you see yourself how you claim something to be ''truth'' and quoted Greek Mythology about Zeus and ect? You need SOLID serious medicine help. You lost the debate just after your 1st post and just to keeping soft tone of comunication is not enough to look like you won the debate. Your ''facts'' are nothing more than fantasies which are based on UNreallity.

  • @MrSwatbg Actullay wtf os your argumentation. I alsdo exhibited the etymology of the word. Europe is a myth, from which the continent was named after. You just say some stupidites, with no facts. You din't mention anything from the beggining it wasn't actually a debate it was me trying to make a debate and you saying Bullshit and no proofs What does Europe mean to Bulgarians? NOTHING. You can't underastand the word. The name comes from Mythology. I not where does it come from idiot?

  • @mokro97

    I havent see facts from you, yet... silly dog.

  • @MrSwatbg My facts come from Strabo, Homer, mythology, lignustic. Of yourse your IQ is too low to undersatnd. But show why Thrace and Macedonia are Bulgarian. Please tell me don't escape again.

  • @mokro97 My facts come from the words of YOUR ancient ancestors, silly idiot. I'm not escape never, but seems like you're not happy with what I writing :).

    There are TOO MUCH same words in the Bulgarian and Thracian language. We talking the Thracian language, just more modern version.

    BTW do you have access to stones, wroten in THRACIAN language? :)))

  • @MrSwatbg Homeric Thrace stretched from the River Axios in the west to the Hellespont and Black Sea in the east. The Catalogue of Ships mentions three separate contingents from Thrace: Thracians led by Acamas and Peiros, from Aenus; Cicones led by Euphemus, from southern Thrace, near Ismaros; and from the city of Sestus, on the Thracian (northern) side of the Hellespont, which formed part of the contingent led by Asius.

  • @MrSwatbg Greek mythology is replete with Thracian kings, including Diomedes, Tereus, Lycurgus, Phineus, Tegyrius, Eumolpus, Polymnestor, Poltys, and Oeagrus (father of Orpheus). In addition to the tribe that Homer calls Thracians, ancient Thrace was home to numerous other tribes, such as the Edones, Bisaltae, Cicones, and Bistones.No one named Miroslav or something like this. Also tell me the names and refer segments of the ancient Greeks. You just say you are based but to who?

  • @MrSwatbg Tdo you have access? I visited Thrace and only read Greek in the anicent sites.

  • @mokro97 Yes I have acces to Thracian letters but I'm nto sure you will can read anything or not...

  • @MrSwatbg No you don't. Send a link or a photo in a persoanal message.

  • @mokro97 And about IQ - I think your is not very hight... idiot :)

  • @MrSwatbg I want to see your arguments about Macedonia or Thrace being Bulgarian. Why every ritten stone and temple found is written in Greek? There no dounds of Bulgaria before the 5th century. You can't be a civillization if you don't have ritten monuments. Where are your proofs? In your fantasy perhaps?

  • @mokro97

    The most normal arguments about that Macedonia and Thrace being Bulgarian is the fact that these lands first were populated by Thracians - our ancestor Every writen stone and temple found is writen in Greek? You reall miss many things :)

    ''There no dounds of Bulgaria before the 5th century'' - Ohohoo..you're again idiot. Read more GREEK chronist. You boost that you are educated? Lets see what this mean to you and where it comes from - Ziezi ex quo Vulgares. I'm waiting...

  • @MrSwatbg No chronist, has ever mention the word bulgarian before the 5th century being in the region Tell me 1. I don't miss nothing. Send me a link with photos of ancient Bulgarian scripts Alsio i am studying anicent Greek. Thid thing is reffering to something the first Bulgarians. It doeasn't mean anything at all. You see it is believed to be fake and it is not aprooved by any rational historian. Also you idiot it is latin not Greek inept rat.

  • @mokro97

    ''Ziezi ex quo Vulgares'' was wroten in Rome chronograff frm 354 y.- Do you speak Latin language? It means ''Ziezi from who the Bulgarians origin''. Its your task to found what is Ziezi.

    I have to tell u who chronist wrote about the Bulgarians before 5 century? You study Greek history and u should know very well. There is wroten much about the Thracians..who are Bulgarians. Thrax, Thracians, Vulgares. Moesians, Geti.. are one of the names with which were called one same people

  • @MrSwatbg I know what it meant. i TELL YOU THAT THIS DOES NOT CONNECT YOU TO THE THRACIANS SINCE THIS FACT IS REDOUPTABLE.

  • @mokro97 Listen carefully now.

    Historians like Quintus Curtius Rufus wrote that in 4th century in the time of Alexander The Great living people, named ''Balgarii'' which in todays clear Bulgarian language means ''Bulgarians''.

    Also - ''Ziezi'' is Thracian name as Zieisi, Ziz, Ziisi, Zaezi.

    Δημήτριος ό Χωματιανος wrote that the Bulgarians had contact with Alexander the Great - something which is ''unknown'' for the Greek modern historians.

    To be continued..

  • @MrSwatbg

    I want to noice that ''Ziezi ex quo Vulgares'' is from 4th century AC and its Rome chronograf. What Quintus Quintus Curtius Rufus and Δημήτριος ό Χωματιανος wrote is about 4th century BC.

  • @MrSwatbg Thrax also accordin got mythology was the son of Ares the Greek god of war.

  • @mokro97

    ANd about ''Thrax'' - This is the surname of one Thracian who was Empereror of Rome from some Period. He lived in Moesia and some period in Dobrogea..

  • @MrSwatbg For last time tThrax was a person of Greek mythology and a son o Ares.

  • @mokro97 Also in the Alcestis, Euripides mentions that one of the names of Ares himself was Thrax since he was regarded as the patron of Thrace (his golden or gilded shield was kept in his temple at Bistonia in Thrace). A greek god patron of a foreign nation? I don't think so

  • @mokro97 BTW where you want to see shooted pages from chronicles (here or in personal message?) in which is wroten about the conflict between ''Alexander who invaded the Bulgarian/Thracian lands and the Bulgarians after very long time toke back their lands while BACK IN HEIR LANDS FROM NORTH (btw now the fashion line is to speak that then when we invaded Byzantium we for 1st time came in the Balkans)''.

  • @MrSwatbg Alexander attacked the Thracians no ancent historian names the place Bulgaria. Also Quintus Curtius Rufus is believed to be of no credibilioty and lacks historian principle and according to many historians W.W. Tarn and Mary Reanult, is not a great historian, because he had a primary sources, now lost, which he misunderstood and garbled.

  • @MrSwatbg Recent genetic analysis comparing DNA samples of ancient Thracian fossil material from southeastern Romania with individuals from modern ethnicities place Italia and Greek individuals in closer genetic kinship with the Thracians than Romanian and Bulgarian individuals

  • @mokro97 I think now you run from the facts I present you :). The historians I mentonied - they have wroten limited information which is so important. ''Lack of knowleges'' they had? This is silly argument to prove my facts. Try again.

    About DNA research - Exactly they showed that the Bulgarians are Thracians...

  • @MrSwatbg There are no DNA researches saying that you have anything to do with Thracians or Italians. Tell me one. There is also no researcher saying that there 3 millions Bulgarians. Also you din't mention historians only one. I didn't say he had less knoledges but according to all historians Quintus Rufus lacks historical principle and grabled his information. Idiot learn to read. You have no argument and for last time you din't mention any Greek historian.

  • @MrSwatbg bulgarians are mixed slavs and turkish gypsys that is all..

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  • @mokro97 ''You have no argument and for last time you din't mention any Greek historian'' - I made you look silly with my arguments. You dont accept them - its only your mentally problem, not mine.

    Well, I think the debate finished. Whatever you write to me mre, it will be oly waste of time and your mono-logue.... idiot

  • @MrSwatbg You are an idiot, who can't acdept defeat. You seewho is the ancient Greek historian you mentioned/ You mentioned only Rufus who was a badass historian, prooven . I mentioned Homer mythology, archeological founidngs , linguistics. I provoked you to mention ancient greek hisotrians, send me pistures of ancient Bulgarian scripts, but you only mentioned a phrase with an irrelevant meaning.

  • @mokro97 ''The crazy ones cannot get tired'' we, the Bulgarians often say .. lol

    Idiot, I asked you? WHERE (here or in own message) to send you GREEK letters about us? ''You cannot accept defeat'' .. hah, what a silly boy. What a silly person can say that ''its proven'' that an ancient historian was ''badass'' and ect. I pitty your parrents.. its not easy to have such a idiot as son.

  • @MrSwatbg You see i am now studying millitary medicine and i simply don't have the time to answer all your nonsense. On the contrary you are in youtube 19 hours per day, like an illiterate inept you are. You see yes he was a bad historian and i can send you photos in your email if you like. You last comment shows you incapability and lack of facts, since you just ignored what i wrote about my sources(Homer, mythology, linguistics, arcaelogy) and provoked you to tell yours bout you din't.

  • @mokro97 Talking much, saying nothing.

    I told you, with ONLY gentle tone you will not do nothing. :)

  • @MrSwatbg Well idiot in a debate you are talking. About the photos if i see yours in my inbox the next minute i i will show you mine.

  • @MrSwatbg These links are first of all not photos you idiot. Also they are reffering to age of Tsar Samuel.

  • @mokro97 About the Italians - Middle and South Italians are very close to the Bulgarians - proved couple of times. I think you should try again because you fail again. :)

  • @mokro97 TODAY have familias in Italy (Italians) whos ancestors is Tsar Samuil - proved, and they're known.

    Some Italian proffesors said that around 3 milion Italians have Bulgarian origin.

  • Just tell me and in the moment you will recieve links to photos of shooted pages wroten in Greek/Latin language.

  • @MrSwatbg Also tell me a name of an ancient Historian saying the word Bulgarian synonym to Thracians and Macedonia first populated by Thracians.

  • @mokro97

    So, the Greek mythology is the most unserious thing if we talk about FACTS of creating the European civilization. Thracians - our ancestors. The world KNOWS who they are and of course to not lose the ''possition of 1st civilization'', the Greeks SURPRISING began to claim that the Thracians are Greek..... as happened with Alexander the Great just not more than 30 years ago - before then, there the Greeks dont talked about him :)

    You're joke... real joke.

  • @MrSwatbg YOU CONTUE SAYING NOTHING. There is no thracian great civvilization. I havent seen a parthnon in Bulgaria, nor any other magnificent monuments. 1 one civillization. 99% of the world nowadays don't even know that there is anything like a Thracian civillization retard pig. Alexander was Greek. You see Strabo an ancient geographer say"Εστι ούν Ελλάς και η Μακεδονία. Which means so Macedonia is Greece. You can't doubt him you shit.

  • @mokro97 Hahah .. please, continue.. idiot :)

    Well, DO YOU HAVE Thracian STONE cities TODAY? Do you have HUNGREDS kilograms of Thracian treasures (including the oldest gold in the world)? DO YOU have bones of Thracian Gods who's age trace back from times when werent huans in Europe? BECAUSE WE DO :) But I'm not sure about you...

  • @mokro97

    Greeks conquered Thracians and today they call themselves ''Thracians''.

    Turks conquered Bulgarians but noone Turk is not that stupid to call himself Bulgarian.

    By following this logic, see who is smarter. You have NO DIFFERENCE with the FYROManians.

  • @MrSwatbg According to the Byzantine and Latin historians you came at the region at the 5th century, you can;t doubt them and even if the Thracians are not Greeks they have absolutely no conection with Bulgarians. If you read the Odyssey you will see that Homer describe the Thracians as Greeks, you are illiterate. You should stop watching and reading the nationalist shit from your mates. Get a life. Also I am Macedonian.

  • @aleksandarzezelj just copy this on search bar "HISTORY OF THE BULGARIANS ( BULGARIAN - THRACIAN CONNECTIONS )" amd watch. I dont have time for history lessons here on youtube.

  • @aleksandarzezelj Slavs ARE NOT INDIGENOUS PEOPLE OF THE BALKAN. YOU HAVE ALL MIGRATED FROM EAST RUSSIA, READ SOME HISTORY THAT IS NOT WRITTEN BY YOU LYING GRANDPARENTS. ONLY GREEKS AND ALBANIANS ARE THE BALKAN NATIVES.

  • @ORTOPLINI

    It is today in 21st century once forever prooven that Illyrians are from Bosnia,Croatia Montenegro and Albania.

    We in north have pure Illyrian origin, but our languague is South Slavic

    while you in south have keept the illyrian language

    but still it doesent change the fact that Bosniaks and Croats of Dalmatia are in fact ILLYRIANS By Origin.

    Saying we are slavs making you very iggnorant and stupid.

    But also saying that we are more Illyrians than Albanians are stupid. :)

  • @BosnianPyramids120 Again igenea is a private own company they tryed to say same thing about macedonia but they failed because oxford and standford had done these tests already,,and by the way I is no older than 2200yrs old albanian E is over 7000bc,And that is a fact.you dna isnt the old dna of I its a drift new not old..and e is a sourthern european dna and i is eastern,,FACT,It was bought with the slavnic migration,

  • @ORTOPLINI

    40 - 50% of Bosniaks have Pure Illyrian origin.

    But the thing is that Origin dont matter.

    Language is biggest proove of identity.

    By origin BOSNIAKS and Croats are Illyrians as much as Albanians them self.

    '

    But the thing is ONLY MODERN ALBANIANS Have keept the Illyrian language.

    Unfortenly historians and schoolars claim that language is most immportant part of one identety.

    This is why Bosniaks and Croats and partly Serbs are Slavenizated Illyrians

    Albanians are pure Illyrian

  • @ORTOPLINI

    Yes they are!! Thracians, Dacians, Illirians are Slavs. My family root is 2000 years old.. Find you own history, from ancient Albania - don't steal Serbian..

  • @aleksandarzezelj 99% OF ILLYRIAN WERE SERBIAN. NOT ALBANIAN. GIVE ME A BREAK LOL.

  • @aleksandarzezelj my language out dates your people.bulgarians gave you your language,in ine i have thracians,illyrian,and dacian what do you think about that?show me influence from them bet you cant,,

  • Ti nuk je arvanit. Ti je nje grek muti. Vdekje grekut. Lavdi Aristidh Koles dhe shqiptareve te tjere trima te Greqise.

  • Der erste Feldzug von Alexander war der, der gegen das Königreich der Athener und erst dann begab er sich nach Persien .Wir müssen im klarrem sein, dass genau zu seiner Zeit , der griechische Staat als Einheit nicht existiert hat und bis heute keine antiken Münzen mit der Aufschrift : Ellada, Hellas oder Greek je gefunden wurden und so die griechische Behauptung , das Alexander der Große ein Grieche sei nicht die Wahre Geschichte ist und volkommen falsch ist.

  • WTF ?????

  • HAhaha neither of those, albanians that are proclaimed 2 be ILLIRYANS IS FUCKING SAY, albanians got their identity ? when ? after 1950 ? bwhaahahaahahaahah Before that there was no word knows as "albanian". And suddenly they have relationship with illiryans ? LOL YOU MUST BE JOKING, albanians are turks, nomads, and when i say albanians i mean to the catholic ones, the muslim-converted pigs are a "new race" arab-albanians or turko-gypsies.

  • buahahaha ..... what is this bullshit ... and where is MACEDONIANS ... ah ok GREECE EXIST BEFORE 1832 ahahahah and ILLIRIANS where is the so called ILLIRIA country mmmmm ... i cant understand who is the stupid man who put this on youtube . MACEDONIA TO MACEDONIANS

  • @VardarPirinEgej Yes. At once I do agree with you Macedonians. Macedonia to Macedonians. Illyria to Albanians.

  • @sacrumillyricum you are an idiot. These slavobulgarians have no proofs of being Macedonian. Macedonia was is and will always be Greek. I can easily proove it with many many facts.

  • why is everybody fighting? for all of you that are arguing do your research and accept the fact. dont forget you live in modern day now its called "reality" ! you sound like little kids with your insults towards each other

  • What the Greeks have given the world? Logic, Geometry, and Anal Sex.

  • @ALBsponsor99 Albos = world renowned child traffickers!!!

    most rapist,,cut-throats,,child-abu­sers and thieves etc etc

    that r on Interpols&FBIs records r fucking Albanians,,,FACT

    u ppl just love being disgusting,,its ur trait mark,,FILTY bastards