FITC - Flash CS4 3D tool

[robamosmierdas]

wtf

[MySpongebob9]

ty!

[sexysmile1217]

how can I do a 3D full text

[johnflan27]

i know where did you get this

in the film tutorial !!!

the mike !!!

the long distance of the sreen!!

and most of all!!!!!!!!!!!!

the quality =d

[MatthewFabb]

LOL! The video was recorded at FITC Toronto conference in early 2008, many months before Flash CS4 had been released. It was filmed off a point-and-shoot camera quickly, just to show other Flash creators what the upcoming Flash 3D tool would look like. As I think this was the first or one of the first times the tool was shown in public outside of Adobe.

[Youth3460]

wow the quality of this video sucks

[Graphicstodiefor]

The stupid monitor is in 3d....he is in the toilet by the sounds of it.......!

[inquestHELP]

does flash cs4 3d tool render as well like any 3d program?

[mongooseroy]

wen will people realise this isnt actually 3d

its just perspective

[diashi120]

8Xs thumbs up

[possumspwn]

I used the 3d rotation tool to create a cube...

[Fantasmo81]

But is it possible to import REAL 3d objects into CS4 though?

I don't own Flash CS4 but I'm trying to find out if it can do the same things as anime studio pro...

Any help and recommendations appreciated...

[digitalbeat]

What a crap 3d perspective only. Not real 3d-objects.

3D-animations are still made in real 3d applications.

You then can import them into flash.

[Tetrix03]

the openGl you find in photoshop it's just for display purposes, this 3d in flash is just what it got to be.

[Tetrix03]

it's 3d like in photoshop(even if now PS is also driven with OpenGL), flash is not a 3d application.

[menzoic]

@Tetrix03

flash would be cooler if it was a 3D application

[smalichic]

Try Erain Swift 3D. Pretty powerful tool.

[Tetrix03]

for real 3d there's shockwave, theres no need of real 3d in flash.

[newsaturn03]

Adobe cs4 software at $55 including shipping. 3 copies left

[AugustMasters]

Still waiting for the real 3d. Also waiting for the sound lag to be fixed.

[LionelAre]

yea me too but wat i dont get is that when you draw on flash you cant do it 3d but if you draw on word you can do it 3d and word is the worst place you can draw on

[programicks]

"these tools should be called 2.5D"

No mate. If you rotate 6 squares in flash in 3d at the different angles needed to make a cube then, using actionscript,

cube.rotationY -= 2;

(obviously, nest all the 3d mcs together to form the cube first)

You can make and rotate a 3d cube in minutes.

No depth sorting though, will need the as for that.

You need to make the 3d objects directly in flash like walls. I wish there was a 3D importer.

[alexdeite]

Does 3d makes the file larger? how large? cause if its twice the size of 2d projects or more, I wont even touch the 3d yet

I know this is a stupid, but Im just starting Flash animation

[warlord90210]

It's not any larger.

Not real 3D... just rotation tools.

[warlord90210]

You can move on all 3 axis

[cybercow222]

... these tools should be called 2.5D not 3D they do manipulation of 2D objects in 3D space. That is most sad, the 2009. is behind the doors, and Flash still lacks real 3D engine and that SUCK HARD. why is so hard to implement few rotation matrices, and give some plain texture mapping and shading ?

[lucianowe]

You are absolutely right!

It's 2009 and they have no real 3d.

I'm glad there's PAPERVISION3d, though.

[gooberlicious01]

I agree. It's not really 3d, just 2d objects in 3d space.

And getting accurate results is overly complicated and incredibly frustrating.

Flash really should have had REAL 3D by now considering its cost.

[slimpopo]

i have flash cs4 full version

but i dont know what to do with it lol

[shymell1234]

where do you download it from ?

[Tetrix03]

get a 30 days trial from adobe site

[celshader]

You guys should check out papervision3d either here or google it. Flash can already do serious 3D.

[sugnasty2000]

Dear human8000. Why don't you go away and learn how to construct a grammatically correct sentence. Then come back and insult us. At least then we would know what it is that you are trying to say. Thank you.

[human8000]

this simply fuck 3D plain rotation is coming finally in 2008?!?! FLASH DEVELOPERS YOU SUCK BIG TIME. This isn't 8-bit computer time.

It should be long time ago around 1999.

[aKitten123]

Im pretty sure they do it on purpose

[Sudanir]

i'm sorry. you're clearly an idiot.

return when you're no longer a minor. obviously you dont understand the significance of this tool being added. its not that it couldnt have been added before. just that it has a purpose now where it didnt before. Adobe made the program. not us "sucky flash devs" can't believe i'm replying to you. nab.

[rapperyz]

i agree with you on the 3d orbiting tools.

but I don't want Flash will be focusing more on 3d. that's my opinion.

I hope Flash improves it's flexibility on working with objects like the inverse kinetics, I hope they make more tools like these.

[Manifest222]

Well what if they made like with the start up how you can choose wether in the start up if you want like:

New Flash 2D Document (Action script 2.0 & 3.0)

or something like :

New Flash 3D Document (Action Script 2.0 & 3.0)

I think that would be a good idea. How bout you?

[electrostatic1111]

definetely..

[rapperyz]

New Flash 3d Document? u kidding? tht means more options w/c means more complication w/c is likely to be more difficult to learn and understand. It'd be better if they just have that 3d orbiting tool and adds more plugins for convenient use of AS3 & AS2 or somewhat like more AS-Visual Tool that can read the correct actions of the interactivity or animations that you are trying to achieve so that thr will be less action scripting. if you want 3d use MAYA,Vue6,3DSMax...& let see if you like it:P

[GuilleGon]

Totally agree with you.

There's software much better than Flasn on 3D.

[Manifest222]

They should make a tool for orbiting as in actual 3D Types of things. That would be amazing. For instance, the only way to make a 3D game in flash is by using a process of width and height. If they made one more axis ( called Z ) which meens up and down, y is forward and back, x is left and right. Then we could make amazing 3D Things! But we could still use frames and stuff!

[rapperyz]

not good for flash, it's better to use Maya or 3ds Max.

Flash - Interactive design

[Manifest222]

Dude flash is for minigames, 3D Minigames are awesome, and they are very hard to make. It would be so good for flash.

[rapperyz]

Dude! There ARE Many 3D Mini Games and it don't use flash player, 3d mini games are using SHOCKWAVE Player w/c is created from DIRECTOR.

Use Flash for interfaces to sites, for quick impact mostly use for 2d games. Use Shockwave for more complex multimedia work, or for web applications that are beyond the browsers' abilities like 3d games.

[Manifest222]

The websites and stuff like that should be able to be 3D Which is why i said they should try to create an orbiting tool. Besides, other 3D Programs are so more confusing. For instance, look at blender. Games are made with it, its a great program, but wait a minute theres like 10,000 properties you can change. Thats all i'm saying.

[rapperyz]

that's what I've been wanting to tell you if Flash will pursue on making 3D stuff then that means more properties and animation layers and etc...I mean if you are a master in Flash then I dont see a problem why u want flash to have a 3d document coz when you say New 3D Documents that means more properties be added or 3d tools.

[Aranica]

THANK YOU, ADOBE. Finally, we have no more need for extremely complex 3D engines in ActionScript.

Well, hopefully. Still we'd like to see some modelling import thing.

FYI I'm not talking about animation here, I'm talking about real-time 3D enviroments that one could move around in Flash. I'm aware of programs such as Swift3D.

[boobookeys19]

it would be amazing like you say if they integrated full time 3D modelling import tool and a development suit to accompany this... that would be awesome.

i hope the new era of flash will bring us developers use of AS3 and animation with both 2D and 3D manipulation and editorial tools

[Aranica]

Yeah, Macromedia did it before with ShockWave, so why can't Adobe do it with Flash?

[tytytyatsats]

I can't understand it. what mean is it? Is it Macromidia are better than adobe?

[Aranica]

I dunno the answer to that question. They both are good companies, but Adobe now has ShockWave. It would be nice if they could incoperate some of Shockwave's features into Flash.

[mssssee]

A 3D tool is exactly what Flash needed. Actionscript 3.0 wasn't needed but anyways...

[BenPel321]

What do you mean?

AS3 is soo much more powerful than AS2.

[LittleJohnnyShow]

Does anyone know when CS4 is going to be released?

[mssssee]

It is said on October 1st.

[ReverendNillerz]

I see this being magic if you combine it with the invese kinematics engine. Maya better watch out...

[pologiovani]

Maya better watch out? I think Autodesk will be fine. Have you looked or experimented with what Maya is capable of?

[ReverendNillerz]

yeah, this doesn't look like it involves wireframing but I was joking dude. And yeah, I've used the PLE and it's okay

[pixelsquad]

@ReverendNillerz Flash is top notch and my main app I work with, but Maya has nothing to worry about. You won't see pixar rendering in flash will you? Think about, adobe isn't trying to steal the 3d world (i.e. they have NO program focused on 3d). CS4 will just be nice for users to integrate semi 3d in their work. My main interest in cs4 is the IK motion ability!

[ReverendNillerz]

I know, christ, I was joking. I've been using Flash for 3 years, I know its not some sort of 3-d sculpting tool. I was just saying you could use it as that if you could make the 3-d tool work with the kinematics engine.

[strunway]

what are the advantages of Flash versus After effects and vice versa.

I thought Flash was vector animation and lots of text and AE was for more complex tv stuff like 3d idents and special effects???

[mssssee]

Well flash is designed to create web apllications like youtube videos instead of just animation.

[Manifest222]

Web design, Animation, Games, And there are also different types of scripts for it. HTML, XML, AS, And the list goes on. That's one of the reason I just love flash, so many options! But I still think they should make it have a Z Axis and 3D Dimensions. Or at least let us have an option of 2D And 3D.

[minthu]

can't wait to try Flash CS4 in action.

[Rajaka]

Mystic! How it works?