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  • I loke both games, favor WAR more than WoW tho, due to darker setting and original stuff... but still those games should not be compared on same basis. WAR is pure PVP and it's the best Ive seen so far :3

  • I already enjoy playing in t1.... this is just insane

  • God dammit this guy is FUCKING UGLY!

  • i wonder who could do all that

  • This sounds kinda unique. i like it :)

    I can see hates on the comment section.

    This is better than what WoW is going to offer on the new expansion. sure the Worgen is a great add.

    BUT wtf is up wif goblin? they couldve added an Ogre or sumthing.. but goblin? yuck!

    I think this offers a great gameplay.

  • the only resion wow is having so much ppl in it w\cus its for 10+ lol warhammer is more brutal witch i like alot and wow is shit when u reach 80 and get geard u just sit and w8 for a raid or go to wg and w8 like a dumbass in war u just Q and then boom u in BG

    aswome warbans guild living and alot more

  • Translation of this video:

    "EA made us release too early to beat WotLK's release so we remove half of the content and added Fortresses that everyone hates"

  • the major failing of this game is faction balance - the devs presumed they would have roughly equal numbers on each faction, however this is not the case. the overwhelming of one faction has rendered RvR completely pointless

  • to good to be true. thats why i wont try this game. its a great mmo tho compared to others. wow still beats it /w gameplay but warhammer has a much better story and sphere.

  • Basically they made the change out of laziness. Why make six capital cities when we can get away with just two?

    Mark Jacobs your fired!

  • omg thats so cool!!!

  • ok well i do not have the game and by the time i have posted this comment. Once you take the major city of your enemy do they reset. I know this is a n00bish question but i dont get it do u hav full controll untill the guys come to steal it back or do you loose the city after a set ammount of time. WOW i ccant wait to get this game!!!!!!!!!

  • For some time it's impossible for them to get the city back.

  • Thats real pvp! allmost like in RF-online but evolved... looking foward for it xD

  • its been out for awhile

  • yea... but it was great (played it whole time when it was free)

  • Spectated the IC under siege. Looks like Order almost brok through but had to log off. It seemed like allot of players didn't know the objectives durring the RVR battles.

  • this seemes like it was before excepd with 2 extra cities to destroy

  • sounds great; in pratice, judging by the gazillion reviews by people who have done this, it is a very boring experience.

  • that really depends. It is only fun if you have a group, otherwise you'r better off with Lotro

  • "Ummm.. we can't figure out how to get six cities to work. So here's TWO cities you can fight in like you have been doing already. Sorry about promising you the other cities."

    On a bright note, nice to see an actual professional guy to deliver the podcast. This guy is good. Keep the other guy at the conferences.

  • i dont really get it.

    so the humans(order) only fight chaos?

    why cant a wizard(human) attack a orc?

  • any order can fight any destruction there is just differant zones were say humans and chaos fight because they hate each other the most i dont know if say dwarfs can go to the human battle zones to help kill the chaos(i havnt got the game myself YET!) or orks can go help the chaos kill humans. i hope this helps if it doesnt just tell me what you dont understand and ill try find out for you :)

  • ow oke. nice then my wizard will get some orc blood on his staff

  • this sounds extremely difficult to do..

    kick defenders out, complete massive dungeons and PQs ((In a limited time)) and then cap the king...? whew...

  • I've been on trial, but I can't say I'm impressed. I went into a scenario with PvP, but I really don't get it, everyone had positive scores, and me, as a lvl 2 caster, had 30 kills 1 death... The idea presented in this vid seems amazing though, you can expierience the same stuff you see in the trailer.. But seems like this is late game super fun, cause trial blows.

  • this is really confusing

  • bah no lizardmen suky game :P

  • good point gernaljelly

  • Is the map bigger then what he showed at 0:41?

  • it is shown smaller than it is

  • Ok this is a big mistake. All the high level players will be doing nothing but attacking the contested city. The defenders will never get a chance to just enjoy it. The Trash at Mystic needs to learn a thing or two about the War, then they need to tone down the RvR and make the actual PvE game worth playing.

  • CAREBEAR ALERT!

  • Care? But 'm in their --> \_/

  • This is not a PvE game.

    GTFO, get back to WoW

  • Wow is gay get over it

  • well the king is a npc mob and also the public quests in the city of ur enemy are made of mobs.and if u really wan pve go to a dungeon lol.

  • you have to capture 2 of 3 tier 4 keeps first, there won't be that kind of problem with the city being at war 24/7, unless no one on one side goes any where near the tier 4 areas.

  • I've been playing this game since release, and the guys who developed it don't know a damned thing about war.

    If 1.1 doesn't have MAJOR changes to the campaign, I will not be resubbing.

  • have you read the patch notes it will change orvr alot...

  • I'm playing on the test server. from what I have seen, it will increase activity for a short time - until people have filled their influence bars. Gear drops are not the way to make a long term improvement in open RvR popularity. XP and renown rewards are.

    I see nothing to increase xp for RvR. WHich means players still have to choose between RvR and leveling. The great majority will choose leveling.

  • that guy reeks geekness

  • Ok thanks for the tips :)

  • Hmm. So if a guild spends hours taking the fortresses, sacking the city, but doesn't LOOT it fast enough, they get kicked out? That's pretty queer if you ask me. :\

  • the best part is ... this pvp system is already better then wow and we are only 1 month in. anyone who played wow will know that it got better with time so if we are already beatign wow ...immagin what is to happen in the comming years

  • exactley man thats what i've been trying to tell people, warhammer is going to be a new type of gaming and i cant wait

  • Im currently playing AoC, but it has gotten a little pointless lately, and im thinking about trying out War. What should i do? There`s no free trails out yett :/

  • AoC lacks players for good endgame, go play some WAR :D

  • if you like pvp then get Warhammer, some people say the pve isnt that good but i dont mind it. if u do buy it, roll an order charachter.

  • lawl, huge? changes? teir 4 end game, is a joke. new system is a cover up of failed content. the cities are plain and a huge snore fest. Oh yah its teir 5 and the shinney star of the last hope of finding some great game play, but thats yet to be seen, an when it is, only fan boys will hang around for doing the same old same old once more.

    Enjoy Fan Boys, because honestly this game has taken MMORPG backwards into evolution.

    smoothest launch of uncompleted game content in history!

  • "only fan boys will hang around for doing the same old same old once more."- You're talking about WoW, right?

  • lol true true

  • are u fuckin stupid this game has takin mmorpg's to a new level, do us all a favor and swallow a bullet or run into a knife

  • i ve been a wow player fo 2 years got 3x70 and HATE THEM THIS GAME ROCKS I AM a pvp player so this game is my game :D:D::D:D:D:D:D:D

  • when you lost your lower level tier does that mean you spawn on a higher level tier?

  • i mean if your current tier spawn point got taken by ur enemy youll be spawned on a different tier?

  • no they control the RvR part not the whole tier

  • COOL SHIRT ;)

  • This is where WAR beats WOW all players will feel like they are doing more in the game than just passing by on their way to the level cap. Low level players can say, hey i helped you guys in tier 2 and so on. The interaction with the world is top notch. The only thing i want to see is how they balance it when one side clearly out numbers another. My wow guild has all rolled destruction and along with 2 other large destruction guilds we are dominating. They need to give help to the out numbered

  • im waiting for wotlk for WoW,but its things like this that make me say FUCK WOW.lol

  • lol soo smart. One question I hade befour was: If I take over the city one time, what point do I have to do it again?. Well now you can farm this ide and become the richest one in the game cuz you Destroy and loot the citys over and over ^^... lol

  • this will take some time ^^ but i will be fucking great can wait too get money too the game ^^

  • And this is why WAR is better than WoW. At least in WAR the guards won't respawn every 5 seconds making it impossible to kill anything combined with lvl 10 players attacking and killing 70s with the help of lvl 65 guards.

  • omfg this is epic!

  • This is insane!!!!

  • Insane? This is... WARHAMMER!

  • lol nice

  • WAAARGH!!!

  • OR IS IT?

    (Yeah, it is.)

  • gotta have it

  • My mouth is wide open all i can say is

    DAMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

  • Fucking sick game!

  • this game looks amazing, cant wait to play it.

  • This... Game... Is... HUGE...

    It pwns WoW so hard I can't even explain it...

    AND DON'T FLAME ME, I have played WoW for about 2 1/2 years, and city raids only give honor... Wooooooo...

    WARHAMMA ONLINIEEEE

  • lol if they even have city raids they never do them on wow anymore cause wow pvp sucks u get into the city and start killing guards then it gets fun and u go to the citys king and hes literally impossible to kill, world pvp in that game sucks balls

  • Seriously, right? NO one does them :(

  • And in most cases(example from my server) when someone starts a city raid,they get laughed at... -.-

  • wow made city raids crap on perpose it kept crashing the servers

  • @roflbiscuit You still playing Warhammer Online? I doubt it.

  • @SKATEOUTTACOMPTON I do not. ha. And I read that comment now and realize how much of a troll I looked like

  • j/w is there a "mount" system for faster travel like in world of warcraft?

  • Yes, you can look up Warhammer online mounts, to view all of them through video.

  • they balance servers that have underpopulated sides so that one team dosnt just keep winning

    it was in a q&a vid

  • the city wont get raped over and over. they expect the major cities to get taken over probably once a month. its not as quick and easy as you might think

  • dickstink

  • holy crap this game is fucking huge

  • this should be really cool it like uses the CTF on WOW and makes it like on a massive scale.

  • if you got a ok pc,lag isnt that bad,i run vista and only had 2gb,went out got nother gb and update my vidoe card drives and my frame rates went tho the roof,and i had no lag>amd 3800 2.0ghz duel core,6600 gt,3gb ram,i run it fine,but i will be getting a 8800 gtx 512,for the hell of it

  • so all players in 1 city using big aoe spells and moves....one word...LAAAAAAAG but I dont think its just 1 place in the city where they all kill each other think its gona be like only in vertain places sorta like a mix between instances and bgs and yea if they capture you king then its you lose they win for alittle while

  • upgrade.

  • I wonder how one city will handle the popluation of the entire server all logged on at the same time in the same place all bashing eachothers heads in.

  • What happens if the king is captured? will it be like.. game over?

  • it's explained in the movie.. the system resets to default, starting over.

  • LOL u stupid shit :P

  • There will be some "punishments" for the losing army, but nothing that´ll last very much, I suppose..

  • This is what World of WARcraft should have been. I'll see ya'll on the RvR battlefield.

  • WoW should've been like the first and second games, they were the best.

  • how much is the monthly payment on warhammer?

  • the usual monthly subscription fee for all paying mmorpg's around 15$ a month.

  • Bah i'm not gonna play this, looks to much like a better version of wow, i love the warhammer strategic games, buut it don't wanna ruin my love for warhammer by playing this game, im staying on Age of conan

  • Dude, AoC is a joke. I played AoC for 3 months. Been playing the beta in WAR, and it like night and day how big a difference there is between these games, as far a quality goes.

  • Nah i like aoc, i've been playing it since beta, if you see the new stuff that's about to come out you would go nuts ^^

  • hmm. i'm not gonna diss you for liking AoC, but it really isn't a very good game. there's a reason why it flopped. you're welcome to your own opinion, of course, but if you make a balanced comparison between AoC and the better MMOs out now (and coming out soon) it's hard to argue that AoC is actually any good. it's got its good bits, but the overall game is lacking.

  • i agree, and i ain't no WAR fanboi, i pre-ordered AoC collectors edition but ultimately it was just boring and dull... simple as that.

    now I've pre-ordered WAR and i hope it will satisfy my need of an mmorpg with actual gameplay.

  • How good will this 'end game RvR loot' be? Will it give such an edge to the victorious attackers that they can easily re-sack the city again after tier 4 resets?

  • great vid Warhammer online is getting better and better ; )

  • ok so in the so called tier 5, does this mean all of the order( elves / dwarfs/ humans) / destruction join up to attack / defend? or will it still be like dwarfs vs / greenskins in the major city?

  • he explained it...

    in 'tier 5' everybody joines up. so order vs destruction

  • There's your "Eng Game".

  • can a human join a Dwarf and Greenskins scenario?

  • yup

  • damn nice system dont u guys think??? But u have to make a planned attack with people to capture at least 2 main cities so it might be tricky.. but it'll be like a 200 man raid if u get to tier 5

  • his ears are uneven

  • yes, he looks like an elf

  • Now it's so painfully obvious that Funcom didn't sit down and do anything planning like this at all.

  • Well the game looks fun. But i dont understand how long these battles are. Tier 1-3 could take 1 hour each or maybe 1 day each. Tier 4 looks like it could be a few hours or again a full day. The Tier 5 battle going to be a full day (8 hrs). Then victors looting of the city should be a few hours at least. With the final battle at the Kings room is at least another several hours.

    Min Siege Time T1-T5, 16 hrs? Max is 4days? Will hard cores ever sleep? Will casuals ever see a complete siege?

  • It sounds long, its sounds tough, but it sounds FUN so theres no need to sleep :P

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  • i want to now what lexphoto wants to no and am i right that their are rvr zones so you can go unflagged and do quests

  • I have reagistered on the web site were I can enter/ download the beta?

  • Also another question i have is...is this game all RvR all the time?

    Or can you go quest in safety and not be "flagged" if you choose not to PvP (RvR, while leveling/questing?

  • You can easily get around and level in just PvE zones, but the main part of WAR is the PvP.

  • there are certain pvp areas that are reserved for pvp, if you just stay out of those areas you dont have to worry about other people coming in and kicking the crap out of you while your questing. but you can level through pvp, so whatever you prefer

  • My question is, ok say a side has taken the enemys final city. He said now the winners can begin to loot and do quests there etc...just how long is the loser side players supposed to stand around twiddling their thumbs watching the other side play the game. I mean the loser side has to now sit out a week or something? 4 days? 2 days? How boring for them.

  • hopefully the Quests will probably only take a few hours or something to do until the king is ready for the plucking...

    presumably during this time most likely the defenders will be able to do other public quests and PvP battles.

    of course this is all guessing and i don't really know.

  • I believe he said to beware when attacking the king because the defenders r rallying their troops to defend so I don't think since they were kicked out of the city doesn't mean they can't defend their king and as soon as the king is overwhelmed it resets

    That's just what I think, but that's what he said so idk

  • lol that looks alot more fun the wow :P wow sucks to warhammers it alrdy looks 4x better and its not even out

  • Wow... To set up all the teams to capture the tiers and tier 5 is gonna take months. This game is gonna be huge. Seems like this game will revolve around pvp, which i love. I never felt right hitting an NPC. But the king is gonna be for PvP so that makes it great.

  • and also, please dont comment saying WoW is superior in PvP, because u know its not. Watching these PvP videos and experiencing WoW as a 70, Warhammer seems beats WoW in PvP. WoW is revolved more around PvE with all the raiding, heroics and dailies.

  • rofl i could solo everything.. and loot and rape everything to! in bout.... 3 hours maybe less! IM GOOD!

  • that would be possible

  • RvR?? what that mean?

  • I beleive its Realm vs Realm BUT Im not sure...

  • it is:)

  • how long will one be able to loot and burn a city? 2 hours?

  • when Red Army took over Berlin, still took them weeks to loot, kill and rape women.

  • lol

  • dont know what youre probem is but retarded answer

  • ya can loot and do dungeons for a pretty long time think round 1day ( 24hours) qoz ya need time for dungeons ... bosses.....

  • ty 4 answering ^^

  • Mytic made dark age of Camalot, Funcom is a bunch of noobs, thats why AoC sucked. It won't end up like Aoc I assure you.

  • sorry for posting coments 1 after another, but i say 4 years because WoW has had 4 years to make it this far

  • also, do you honestly think expansions of new instances and raids and a new class each time is gonna go on much longer?

  • kylechall, actually give warhammer 4 years and i can almost gaurantee WoW will be destroyed

  • sounds crazy. i might get it

  • Its funny to see how all wow " fanboys " goes all defensive. WAR pvp is so much better than... as far as i know PvP is non exsistant in WoW except for arena... BG's is one big leech battle and world pvp is dead.

  • is that game for the xbox

  • NO..... LOL Its for Computer

    Its Like WoW

  • no pc only its a mmo

  • I agree, Woopdoggy, I got perm banned on official wow with 4 70´s and lots of other stuffs i´ve been farming... I didn´t even care, now I feel free, I´m serious.

  • The New WoW Wrath Of The Loch King will fail, thats all blizz are gonna do same old thing, nothing new entirely in Wotlk, BC wasnt a big step like Blizz made it u=out to be, it will fail and fail badly all wow players are tards, Warhammer will be slow at the start but it will exceed past WoW with flying colours. Wotlk is GOING to be bad and will fail, not many people will want to do the whole leveling thing again, its boring and nothing good to get out of it.

  • It's all well and good bigging up the end game, but I'll bet any money it's gonna be really boring to get to that stage. TBH, I think many people wont think its the effort and will bail out after like lvl 20. In DAOC the leveling was shit in that too, I wonder if they've learnt from their mistakes or whether they are trying to cloud everyone's mind with "EPIC SIEGES" "LOOTING AND PILLAGING!". Frankly, im not gonna be bought over and I question whether I shall buy the game or not. (not a fan boy)

  • The thing is, you get to do this the whole time as you level up. In every zone there is some way for you to destroy enemy settlements/buildings/whatever and kill enemy players, and of course getting a nice reward and the end of it all.

  • so... if i'm in the first zone, and my side 'wins' we can loot as we please?

  • Do you want to keep watching Youtube Videos? You won't in a couple years, don't believe me? I dare you to watch this then /watch?v=vek9aEGEtyw&

  • I play WoW and I agree with yurriah. But you got to remember that WoW is bringing in a new thing with Wrath of the Lich King.. whiche is Seige weapons or something.. this mite promote PvP things....

  • im just afraid that on some servers one side with dominate the other side and be constantly in control of everything but im just trying to think away the time till the game comes out

  • stuff like this doesnt happen trust me, i played beta

  • u played a closed beta which means people can do everything it just means they can only play the parts of the game mythic wants them to

  • yes it does you douche, you're just another wowfan lol. i'm in beta and this happened.

  • well srry it didnt happen too me.

  • Sounds like you need alot of player to do the job, I guess half of WoW players will be there...

  • this sounds like a bunch of "DEFEND THE REALM" players. The true pvpers wont give a damn about that shit because they want the group vs group fights.

  • actually...

    they will..

    because..

    if you dont defend your forts and citys..

    you dont really earn anything..

    instance RVR is a waste of time.

    and you earn more for the open world.

  • Go Back to WoW. Its called roaming PVP. Sure you're going to have the zergers who are FOR T3h Realm who think its cool to take keeps. While they're busy taking keeps you will have the 6 mans roaming and looking for the 6v6 fights.

  • What? Did you read what i said?? its a good thing that got rid of the 6 individual citys.. for one there would be massive fps lag.. second of all..each race would defend its own.. and once all the citys are captured.. then what? nothing. SO. the two cities are good.. and i dont play WoW anymore.. WoW is boring, gay, pointless and the pvp is for people who just started playing MMO's.idk if people leave WoW for WaR they can stay with WoW.. im playing WAR
  • why would you type your comment in mini sentences? now I think you're gay

  • they didn't get rid of the two cities

    and your logic is totally flawed

  • No harm in not trying it for me, I play WoW but I'm always looking for more PvP. AoC didn't work out, I've already pre-ordered WAR-- see how that goes as well.

  • is it me, or does the "elvish" factions always base their cities on isolated islands lol.

  • Warhammer FTW! I mean these people have soooo much exp with MMO's and I think this game is going to be brilliant. And this just aint wow with better graphics. Thats the same as saying Pro Evo is the exact same as fifa. But there not.. there completely dif games.

  • Thats is what i fear of. Im a true fan of warhammer eversince the table top gaming to the 40K pc games. But the things is, Blizzard can delay their update, release time etc.. just to make their fan happy. But this game stuck with EA and EA will keep pushing things which MAY make this game not as true to the warhammer world as suppose to.

    Coz for me ProEvo > Fifa (which is by EA).

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    Its nit like wow trust me ^^ hahaha