While I don't mind the idea of death and enjoy the libertarian/anarchist mindset that seems prevalent here, there needs to be more incentives in place than Haven and Hearth.
Pilgrims could glow a "good" or "evil" color depending on their deeds, Or have them forfeit some aspect of the game if they turn to "evil" deeds and vice versa for those who choose "good" deeds exclusively. ie. "good" pilgrims can lead more into battle while "evil" pilgrims are more powerful independently etc.
A anti-grief system is GAY, IT WOULD NOT BE A TRUE SIMULATION WITH ONE! Because you cant do what ever you want ingame, or what surrounding in-game villages politics abore to.
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@jamesbmxdude Lol fail. Haven and Hearth has been out many years before Xyson. This is from the makers of H&H and if its better than H&H is, it will kick Xyson's ass by a long shot.
Salem is based on Seatribes main project, which is more or less a Social Experiment, and intends to recreate human society and behaviour in a world with as few 'rules' as possible.
Haven & Hearth with 3D graphics, bloody awesome, can't wait, hardcore sandbox MMO with player freedom remind me of the good ole days of UO, bring on Salem Online!!!
@Lawsy08 man in UO they kill each other for fun. Loads of jackasses run around just to attack each other on sight. This is not something we want to happen in H&H or Salem. Curios why there's no mindless PK raids in H&H? Because there is justice and people don't care to loot your fucking regs and gm hally... This is why I am looking foward for Salem..it will be much more community based than nearly any other MMO around there..
I hope they will really make freedom by removing terrible grinding part which H&H has. Why should I grind 100k lps to do something simple when I can spend this time by doing something fun!
To be honest, although I look forward to this, having Haven and Hearth to play is plenty. Haven and Hearth may well be the greatest video game ever created.....
Graphics, graphics graphics... when are people going to learn graphics dosent meant shit if the game lacks good elements, its just eye candy then. a game could be the coolesting looking game ever, but be boring as hell.
while another game could look like ass but be so fun you lose track of time for hours because of the gameplay elements are fun and not just "pretty"
Will follow this with much interest. I hope they (seatribe) have a better sense of what they are doing than Starvault (creators of Mortal Online) - At least they seem to have their inspiration spot on ( <3 h.p lovecraft and poe).
Also, tracking part in H & H also sux..it makes it impossible to get away with crimes... NO, I dont mean you should be able to grieff. What I think there should be towns and wide politics system in so that players could regulate security in regions like sending troops or guards to patrol the territory if serial killer is working there etc. But since this game will have no townes or castles, which sux btw, there will be complete anarchy..wiuch isnt bad at some point but may be overpowered
Salem sounds great, however I HOPE they will bypass some of things Heaven and Hearth has.
I have to describe it in a big article but since I cant do it here.. H&H is great, but I cant play it because of the number of reasons, such as you can only do something if you have skill and you can only get skill after you get enough skill points, that sux. Training part should be much more wide, such as you could onyl gain rhetoric if you read specific book etc etc.
the real world do have griefers of their own...just that we usually have a system taking care of it for us, so we don't have to actively care, in a game on the other hand it's up to the players that does not want griefing to establish this system. Of course, Hobbes theory of human fear of other humans powers, and preemptied attacks, would become mayor factors here :D looking forward to it!
@Firefoxnox It sucks to be you dude. Look who is talking, fucking get in front of a camera and spit some words, then maybe you will deserve some respect from him.
@mrmaxell222 Haven and Hearth was developed to simulate life economics, politics, social relations, and many elements from real life. So implementing an anti-griefer system would be counter-productive to their goal; griefers in H&H are essentially the vikings of Ye Olde Europe.
One of the main problems with this kind of game that everybody just seems to ignore is the issue of meta-gaming Players will generally know things that his character would not which allows the player to make the character behave in ways that ruin any sense of realism in the world.
For example if someone kills a character, in reality it should actually be fairly complicated to locate the culprit. But the player can just tell his friends who killed him. No need to investigate. Instant man hunt.
@Kosmite Assuming that they follow H&H gameplay, you do not know anyone's name until you "kin" them, aka friend them. This means that all players are named ??? to one another at the start. You can "memorize" someone's face, but you must assign your own nickname to them, such as "The guy who stole my bread". Next time you see him, you'll know who he is, but if he kills you, you can't relay that info to anyone, because your characters memories are gone.
@MadeinHell2 go play Haven and Hearth. this game is based of Haven and Hearth, the makers of Haven and Hearth are working on this game. nearly 100% the same just one is 2d and one is 3d ;D
Wow. I totally had an idea just like this, like, a year ago.
No respawn: Check
Absolute freedom: Check
Affectable environment: Check
Not that I'm saying they stole my idea. Just a weird coincedence. Or maybe this was a concept developers were playing with for a while that they were plain unable to create until today because of technological restrictions. Glad I didn't patent this idea, or else I may never actually be able to play it! Good luck, guys! I'll think up a Space MMO instead, maybe.
Omg, I can tell by the comments that none of you have played Haven and Hearth. Greifers won't stand a chance, it's a balance between good and evil and the victims can always get their revenge. Wow, Paradox is a great company, well done Jorb. Now we know what you look like, hahahaha. Does that mean Haven is going to become vapourware? Lolololol. This sounds like it'll be a very interesting game, Salem ftw.
So, this guy here thinks it will be fun to hunt down people who destroy your stuff? Lets say you log in, your farm is a massive pile of rubble. Theres nothing more, no vengance or whatever hes talking about. You dont even know who did it, we get this all the time on Minecraft multiplayer.
@TEHROFLKINFE When someone performs criminal activities, they leave scents, which will allow you to track down the people griefing, and dispatch them.
I am soooo going to PK everyone... I hope there is no status messages so you could sneak and kill people nobody knows it was you! Before you say that's fucked up think of assassins creed etc, only with real people. Make a guild of scavengers, steal someones 5 months old city, endless possibility.
I don't know what's scarier? The game concept, or Bjorn himself. Seriously. The man's brain is broken. Twitching, can't look at the camera very long, fidget-squirm-twitch, and that eye spasm. Not someone I'd care to meet by surprise. >O.O<
This game just looks...amazing. I want to start an Assassin's guild for those who just need someone killed. It will probably be a moral assassin's guild, and employ Magic and whatever else is needed to kill our targets. Or some kind of a group along those lines. Probably make a little Assassin's settlement. Something like that.
Sounds sweet. I doubt it'll be heavily griefed, either, when you consider that griefers are going to get killed a lot, and come back with just stones as weapons, whereas people who have worked (or fought) their way up to the top can easily wipe them out.
And trolling at that much of a powerful level means you'll lose a load of shit when you die.
Christ, this game's sounding like a *good* version of Minecraft.
This one is free to play so it has a better chance. Nobody wants to pay $50 before they can even try the game out (I'm looking at you Darkfall) and then be griefed by players the entire time.
If Salem is anything like Haven and Hearth (made by the same developers) combat won't be a focus in the game, but rather a tool and it doesn't come into play until much later in the game.
I wonder how long until they change their minds about perma death, before launch or after the game is dead. After all, once the game dies, in the real world, its perma death. No second chances....think on it paradox :)
Stop being a pussy, it's free to play and isn't a "hurr durr I need to kill things" style mmorpg. It's focused on the community and city building aspects. You shouldn't be dying much. As well, they said they're essentially removing the grind aspect of most mmorpg, so it's not like you have to work very hard to get back to where you were. If you're part of a group, you can go right back to them when you make your new character. The point of perma-death is so you don't act frivolously.
The point is to reduce frivolous killing. The game is not focused around PVP. It's to keep out retards who just want to kill people (and will inevitably get killed, cry, then quit the game)
Player justice will moderate griefing, it works very well in H&H, whenever you commit a crime you leave a scent which can be used to track you. And another way is to build a wall around your settlement.
Now let's grief everyone all day every day so that no new players will want to join and quickly kill the game off!"
These games require a sense of community, but tend to attract a crowd of people that would rather ruin the game for people. I'm hoping there will be a lot of people who actually want to start communities and band together against these griefers.
Haven and Hearth isn't nearly as publicised as this is (and it's barely in production, so it will just get crazier) and its graphics don't appeal to people who just want to grief. I'm hoping it will work and the perma-death aspect will keep out most of the people who just want to run around murdering people. If they implement something like the scent trails from H&H it will be fine, because murderers really have no chance.
Yo homie, please get your eye checked out, I think its about to permanently die on you. No eye replacement though, you just have to leave the socket and empty void
While I don't mind the idea of death and enjoy the libertarian/anarchist mindset that seems prevalent here, there needs to be more incentives in place than Haven and Hearth.
Pilgrims could glow a "good" or "evil" color depending on their deeds, Or have them forfeit some aspect of the game if they turn to "evil" deeds and vice versa for those who choose "good" deeds exclusively. ie. "good" pilgrims can lead more into battle while "evil" pilgrims are more powerful independently etc.
spastikman 1 month ago
This looks pretty damn interesting. Can't wait to see what kind of community it breeds.
Iverath 1 month ago
*I SHALL END THIS MADNESS !*
I am a Minecon Attendee and I know this game might be close to Minecraft gameplay. But this is not a copy. Minecraft is not original by it self.
Kingpixels 1 month ago
Reminds me of wurm online
Leon1112rus 2 months ago
Woot and all that needs to be done to haven and hearth is get rid of lag and it will be the Ultimate game
trainman58 5 months ago
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TheMacyoo 5 months ago
haven and hearth still exist :)
VoodooD0g 6 months ago
There was a game of that time before. Haven & Hearth. I loved it <3
ZozoleWole 7 months ago
in 3:48 watch his left-eye blink while the right does not.
Asenpopov 7 months ago
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A anti-grief system is GAY, IT WOULD NOT BE A TRUE SIMULATION WITH ONE! Because you cant do what ever you want ingame, or what surrounding in-game villages politics abore to.
DMZreds 8 months ago
A anti-grief system is GAY, IT WOULD NOT BE A TRUE SIMULATION WITH ONE! Because you cant do what ever you want ingame, that is what souronding in-game villages politics abore to.
DMZreds 8 months ago
@DMZreds there isn't one.
darklol261 4 months ago
lazy eye xD
koron44 9 months ago
I will test this game, but I will always continue playing haven and hearth :)
I hope you guys are done wit this game fast enough, cause I would like to see more updates in H&H :D
btw: I just died, but I continue on playing :D
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automouse2dotcom 9 months ago
xyson clone
jamesbmxdude 9 months ago
@jamesbmxdude Lol fail. Haven and Hearth has been out many years before Xyson. This is from the makers of H&H and if its better than H&H is, it will kick Xyson's ass by a long shot.
Vincent883 9 months ago
@jamesbmxdude nah, Xyson is a clone of Wurm Online.
Salem is based on Seatribes main project, which is more or less a Social Experiment, and intends to recreate human society and behaviour in a world with as few 'rules' as possible.
xSakijix 9 months ago
Does he have something in his eye?
miatribe 10 months ago
Wait is he from iceland n.n ?
lRedWingl 10 months ago
I CAMMMMEEEE
ogdemigod 1 year ago
Haven & Hearth with 3D graphics, bloody awesome, can't wait, hardcore sandbox MMO with player freedom remind me of the good ole days of UO, bring on Salem Online!!!
Lawsy08 1 year ago
@Lawsy08 man in UO they kill each other for fun. Loads of jackasses run around just to attack each other on sight. This is not something we want to happen in H&H or Salem. Curios why there's no mindless PK raids in H&H? Because there is justice and people don't care to loot your fucking regs and gm hally... This is why I am looking foward for Salem..it will be much more community based than nearly any other MMO around there..
wisedevil05 1 year ago
Jorb: "...and there's no kinda grindy content that you have to go through before you can do this or that..." HOPE IT'S TRUE!
but even if it's not..looking forward for Salem!!!
wisedevil05 1 year ago
@wisedevil05
Oh i undestand now, the curiosity system came from salem !
Venividibatna 11 months ago 2
I hope they will really make freedom by removing terrible grinding part which H&H has. Why should I grind 100k lps to do something simple when I can spend this time by doing something fun!
wisedevil05 1 year ago
To be honest, although I look forward to this, having Haven and Hearth to play is plenty. Haven and Hearth may well be the greatest video game ever created.....
painhertz 1 year ago
I am a big fan of Jorb(The guy they are interviewing) Indie MMO(Haven And Hearth)
And I am looking forward to this game(Haven and Hearth = 2D Salem)
JonGre93 1 year ago
Graphics, graphics graphics... when are people going to learn graphics dosent meant shit if the game lacks good elements, its just eye candy then. a game could be the coolesting looking game ever, but be boring as hell.
while another game could look like ass but be so fun you lose track of time for hours because of the gameplay elements are fun and not just "pretty"
Stellavus 1 year ago
Will follow this with much interest. I hope they (seatribe) have a better sense of what they are doing than Starvault (creators of Mortal Online) - At least they seem to have their inspiration spot on ( <3 h.p lovecraft and poe).
Also..dude, your eye..YOUR EYE! *twitch*
DrDopehat 1 year ago
Game sounds amazing.
Estragogon 1 year ago
SWWEEEDISSSSS
LittleChicken117 1 year ago
Haven and Hearth goes 3D
Bub7000 1 year ago
H&H H&H H&H H&H H&H H&H H&H H&H
TheYatesMachine 1 year ago
Also, tracking part in H & H also sux..it makes it impossible to get away with crimes... NO, I dont mean you should be able to grieff. What I think there should be towns and wide politics system in so that players could regulate security in regions like sending troops or guards to patrol the territory if serial killer is working there etc. But since this game will have no townes or castles, which sux btw, there will be complete anarchy..wiuch isnt bad at some point but may be overpowered
wisedevil05 1 year ago
@wisedevil05 intelligence and stealth is the only thing i gotta say on this.
xweetok59 1 year ago
Salem sounds great, however I HOPE they will bypass some of things Heaven and Hearth has.
I have to describe it in a big article but since I cant do it here.. H&H is great, but I cant play it because of the number of reasons, such as you can only do something if you have skill and you can only get skill after you get enough skill points, that sux. Training part should be much more wide, such as you could onyl gain rhetoric if you read specific book etc etc.
I like what he said about freedom
wisedevil05 1 year ago
Love the idea of permadeath. Its a shame I think dragons and shit is lame.
lashlashlashlashlash 1 year ago
I thought it would have graphics like Age of Conan er something but this is really horrible...
Lubben 1 year ago
the real world do have griefers of their own...just that we usually have a system taking care of it for us, so we don't have to actively care, in a game on the other hand it's up to the players that does not want griefing to establish this system. Of course, Hobbes theory of human fear of other humans powers, and preemptied attacks, would become mayor factors here :D looking forward to it!
Yaratoma 1 year ago
@Firefoxnox It sucks to be you dude. Look who is talking, fucking get in front of a camera and spit some words, then maybe you will deserve some respect from him.
Thetrutv 1 year ago
Where can i find trailer and pictures of this game?
Thetrutv 1 year ago
I'll bet that this game is going to do that a lot of geeky gamers will start to cry.
And that many assholes are just gonna go around killing at random.
azzazzazzaaaa 1 year ago
"Nothing is forced upon you."
Um yeah, about that. Wasn't he just saying that if you die, you stay dead? That means that starting over is forced upon you.
fjlsfljsalfkjasdflka 1 year ago
2d pwns 3d
Domoeko 1 year ago
meh i dunno haven and hearth will always be better, i can see them doing something stupid with this game like add in a shop
baxstaber1 1 year ago
Expect a release at....?
Sarbinger 1 year ago
the combat in haven and hearth sucks ass horribly. the combat in this had better be good.
symnzXx 1 year ago
holy shit thats jorb ?
abissmalranger09 1 year ago
Kudos to Seatribe for creating the ultimate sandbox that is realistic. Just give players all the tools they need to make it fun.
ChantFox 1 year ago
To anyone that says this is a copy of Minecraft... Fuck you.
To anyone who says this game won't work because of griefers... Fuck you.
To anyone else who is a complete fucking idiot... Fuck you.
Haven & Hearth is a perfect game. Salem might top that.
resture 1 year ago 107
@resture Haven & Hearth is not a perfect game at all, Griefers out the ass, a Perfect game whould have some type of anti-grief system, but nope.
mrmaxell222 9 months ago
@mrmaxell222 Haven and Hearth was developed to simulate life economics, politics, social relations, and many elements from real life. So implementing an anti-griefer system would be counter-productive to their goal; griefers in H&H are essentially the vikings of Ye Olde Europe.
nLoL2 7 months ago
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mrmaxell222 5 months ago
@resture
+1
TheMacyoo 2 months ago
@resture If anyone can pull it off, it's these guys. I can't wait.
dhavrin1 1 month ago
In b4 the Goons take control of 60% of the ingame resources
DeoMachina 1 year ago
One of the main problems with this kind of game that everybody just seems to ignore is the issue of meta-gaming Players will generally know things that his character would not which allows the player to make the character behave in ways that ruin any sense of realism in the world.
For example if someone kills a character, in reality it should actually be fairly complicated to locate the culprit. But the player can just tell his friends who killed him. No need to investigate. Instant man hunt.
Kosmite 1 year ago
@Kosmite Assuming that they follow H&H gameplay, you do not know anyone's name until you "kin" them, aka friend them. This means that all players are named ??? to one another at the start. You can "memorize" someone's face, but you must assign your own nickname to them, such as "The guy who stole my bread". Next time you see him, you'll know who he is, but if he kills you, you can't relay that info to anyone, because your characters memories are gone.
hcjarrodp 1 year ago 6
@hcjarrodp but if youre killed they leave a scent, which can be tracked as far as I know
Quikie93 4 months ago
long live JORB!!!
Can't wait to try Salem.
Good to know development of Haven and Hearth will still continue :)
Geistkampfer 1 year ago
The minges from Garrys-mod will play this and raise a army to kill every single living player....
MRroddan96 1 year ago
Gameplay!
MRroddan96 1 year ago
Lookup The Secret world instead it covers all of this mostly except permanent death wich sucks in mmos.
doop00 1 year ago
nb4 clipping issues
cotycrg 1 year ago
It looks really interesting. I'm always up for an original game, especially if it's an original mmo.
I just hope mechanics will work well.
MadeinHell2 1 year ago
@MadeinHell2 go play Haven and Hearth. this game is based of Haven and Hearth, the makers of Haven and Hearth are working on this game. nearly 100% the same just one is 2d and one is 3d ;D
GMazeMElite 1 year ago
oooo... makers of Haven and Hearth are making a new game :)
JonGre93 1 year ago
I love the concept.. but that if one were disconnect when fighting someone, a weaker player etc.?
Awesoome3 1 year ago
Wow. I totally had an idea just like this, like, a year ago.
No respawn: Check
Absolute freedom: Check
Affectable environment: Check
Not that I'm saying they stole my idea. Just a weird coincedence. Or maybe this was a concept developers were playing with for a while that they were plain unable to create until today because of technological restrictions. Glad I didn't patent this idea, or else I may never actually be able to play it! Good luck, guys! I'll think up a Space MMO instead, maybe.
Rezindez 1 year ago
3 viewers had justice thrust upon them.
PurpleCliff1 1 year ago
Free-for-all PvP is bad enough, but combined with permadeath? T'Hell with that garbage.
ogrejd 1 year ago
@ogrejd You pussy. Go and play WoW.
TheDaki75 1 year ago
@TheDaki75 aw yeah. you're so badass for playing a different game! in truth, you're a loser
scullyy 1 year ago
@scullyy didnt say I was badass for playing a different game. I said that the guy was scared cuz of the full loot perma death thing.
TheDaki75 1 year ago
@TheDaki75 its a game. so i doubt he's scared of anything in it. maybe he just doesnt like perma death
scullyy 1 year ago
@scullyy cuz he is scared of dying.
TheDaki75 1 year ago
go play haven and hearth and try trolling there
Kossujeppe 1 year ago
When will this be released
wertel1 1 year ago
Whats wrong with his eye
B1aDK 1 year ago
@B1aDK
He is Swedish, thats wats wrong
Ruinous91 1 year ago
So, what if you disconnect in the middle of a fight? Or your computer freezes?
Fucksvensker 1 year ago
@Fucksvensker Your character will stay in game. Like in Haven & Hearth :D
NakimesisX 1 year ago
@Fucksvensker You lose "consciousness" or personal control. This idea is simplistically brilliant!
midgiemelendez 1 year ago
The trolls shall inherit this game.
tefras14 1 year ago
He is so sweet :*
KrasusAversa 1 year ago
Looks good cant wait for more footage.
45chris2 1 year ago
um... alpha footage.. not what i imagined tbh..
watch?v=DQiSnq9Xo3s
Schism704 1 year ago 18
Any name for the music in background?
LordNovacro 1 year ago
Omg, I can tell by the comments that none of you have played Haven and Hearth. Greifers won't stand a chance, it's a balance between good and evil and the victims can always get their revenge. Wow, Paradox is a great company, well done Jorb. Now we know what you look like, hahahaha. Does that mean Haven is going to become vapourware? Lolololol. This sounds like it'll be a very interesting game, Salem ftw.
KippyCats 1 year ago
BURN THE WITCHES
Schism704 1 year ago
this game is going to be amazing!
SuperjailOx 1 year ago
Sounds amazing.
jkejke 1 year ago
Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn.
Tferr00 1 year ago
So, this guy here thinks it will be fun to hunt down people who destroy your stuff? Lets say you log in, your farm is a massive pile of rubble. Theres nothing more, no vengance or whatever hes talking about. You dont even know who did it, we get this all the time on Minecraft multiplayer.
TEHROFLKINFE 1 year ago
@TEHROFLKINFE When someone performs criminal activities, they leave scents, which will allow you to track down the people griefing, and dispatch them.
wolfang111 1 year ago
Sounds like Minecraft you fucking thieves.
Visualundeath 1 year ago
@Visualundeath Oh, you.
itzxx420l33tHALOxxzz 1 year ago
@Visualundeath Sounds like you read Kotaku and decided to be a complete tool.
jkejke 1 year ago
@jkejke sounds like you have dady issues
Visualundeath 1 year ago
@Visualundeath lol so minecraft makes a freeform game and now no one else is allowed to funny stuff grow up
anonymousdev1l 1 year ago
@anonymousdev1l Don't mind anonymousdev1l guys, he doesn't get the joke.
Visualundeath 1 year ago
@Visualundeath You should stop commenting now, you're making a fool of yourself.
jkejke 1 year ago
@jkejke Sounds like you need to go to a councillor and get your head examine.
Visualundeath 1 year ago
Holyfuckingshit.
DO WANT.
Octoburfrost 1 year ago
I WANT IT NOW
Gincorp 1 year ago
Sold.
BVB09Fanatic 1 year ago
An alright idea, but unless they put measures in to stop griefing, which will probably be impossible, it will never get good execution.
NullUpdate 1 year ago
HOLY SHIT
HOLY FUCKING
ARGH I WANT THIS NOW I LOVE YOU
loriziell 1 year ago
mother of jesus
bottleheadlol 1 year ago
Spongebob with his wallet open.jpg
kamilfreeman 1 year ago
The concept is very intriguing, I do regret it not being 2D (like in H&H) =(
wolfang111 1 year ago
Ale brzydal, niespodziewałem się że tak wygląda twórca HH, łapką w góre kto też tak uważą.
Volt440 1 year ago
Griefers will find a way to ruin this for legitimate players.
ToothyMcshark 1 year ago
I am soooo going to PK everyone... I hope there is no status messages so you could sneak and kill people nobody knows it was you! Before you say that's fucked up think of assassins creed etc, only with real people. Make a guild of scavengers, steal someones 5 months old city, endless possibility.
kneeare 1 year ago
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Sroek 1 year ago
I don't know what's scarier? The game concept, or Bjorn himself. Seriously. The man's brain is broken. Twitching, can't look at the camera very long, fidget-squirm-twitch, and that eye spasm. Not someone I'd care to meet by surprise. >O.O<
IonOtter 1 year ago
His eye annoys the shit out of me
XC00ldude 1 year ago
This game just looks...amazing. I want to start an Assassin's guild for those who just need someone killed. It will probably be a moral assassin's guild, and employ Magic and whatever else is needed to kill our targets. Or some kind of a group along those lines. Probably make a little Assassin's settlement. Something like that.
CryptidHunter13 1 year ago
0:37 any game that lets be be ERECT in an open and free world sells me forever!!! Im sold!!!!!
Thet3 1 year ago
Yes that is jorb.
rye130 1 year ago
Wait, wut?
Jorb? D:
thijssnl 1 year ago
Oh boy, permanent death. I can't wait for some 14 yr old fag to come and shank the shit out of my character.
On the other hand I always wanted to be a murderer. :3
Blacksnyder 1 year ago
@Blacksnyder It's not combat oriented, so that's not likely. The point of the game is to form communities
heartdaplague 1 year ago
Sounds sweet. I doubt it'll be heavily griefed, either, when you consider that griefers are going to get killed a lot, and come back with just stones as weapons, whereas people who have worked (or fought) their way up to the top can easily wipe them out.
And trolling at that much of a powerful level means you'll lose a load of shit when you die.
Christ, this game's sounding like a *good* version of Minecraft.
Th3Laugh1ngMan 1 year ago
@Th3Laugh1ngMan
Look up Haven and Hearth and play it.
thijssnl 1 year ago
TAKE MY MONEY
CommunistHamster 1 year ago
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BlitzWhat 1 year ago
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vey2go 1 year ago
@vey2go you're breaking rules 1 and 2, your prententious newfag.
Imerjensi 1 year ago
@Imerjensi wrong board dumb fuck.
lordace777 1 year ago
@Imerjensi
As well as lordace777 said, you also are obviously new to /b/, as 1 and 2 only apply during raids... Newfag...
(I feel dirty mentioning /b/ and using that term)
OnlySemiCoherent 1 year ago
@vey2go underageb& gtfo.
TheLivingSeven 1 year ago
A wizard calls you wicked retarded. What do you do?
Coldbrand 1 year ago
HAVEN AND HEARTH 2.0 YEAH
Renderc4t 1 year ago
not interested in GRIEFING: The Game
darcblaze12 1 year ago
i noticed a lazy eye and couldn't not focus on it...game sounds good though
ManusCelerDei 1 year ago
ohhhhhhhhhhhh god i want to play you now
surematt 1 year ago
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horsetranq13 1 year ago
perkele: the mmo
BlackSephir 1 year ago
OH BOY ANOTHER MMO LIKE DARK FALL MORTAL ONLINE THATLL BE DEAD BEFORE EVEN RELEASING
Jackalofdeath 1 year ago
@Jackalofdeath
This one is free to play so it has a better chance. Nobody wants to pay $50 before they can even try the game out (I'm looking at you Darkfall) and then be griefed by players the entire time.
If Salem is anything like Haven and Hearth (made by the same developers) combat won't be a focus in the game, but rather a tool and it doesn't come into play until much later in the game.
heartdaplague 1 year ago
I wonder how long until they change their minds about perma death, before launch or after the game is dead. After all, once the game dies, in the real world, its perma death. No second chances....think on it paradox :)
genoism 1 year ago
@genoism
Stop being a pussy, it's free to play and isn't a "hurr durr I need to kill things" style mmorpg. It's focused on the community and city building aspects. You shouldn't be dying much. As well, they said they're essentially removing the grind aspect of most mmorpg, so it's not like you have to work very hard to get back to where you were. If you're part of a group, you can go right back to them when you make your new character. The point of perma-death is so you don't act frivolously.
heartdaplague 1 year ago
i wonder how long until they remove perma death. Before launch or after the game is dead.
genoism 1 year ago
TAKE MY FUCKING MONEY
DaniOverture 1 year ago
TAKE ALL MY FUCKING MONEY, I JUST CAME
Vegetapowa 1 year ago
one death gameplay? Why would that EVER be good?
Tanikaze2 1 year ago
@Tanikaze2
The point is to reduce frivolous killing. The game is not focused around PVP. It's to keep out retards who just want to kill people (and will inevitably get killed, cry, then quit the game)
heartdaplague 1 year ago
I'M SHIPPING OUT TO BOSTON
meagherboy 1 year ago
@meagherboy
*whoa oh oh*
lungpatrol 1 year ago
I WANT A BETER MOUNT ANDMOUNT AND BLADE KITS THERE BEST GAME
sk8pn 1 year ago
Player justice will moderate griefing, it works very well in H&H, whenever you commit a crime you leave a scent which can be used to track you. And another way is to build a wall around your settlement.
PS: ALL HAIL JORB!
zimme 1 year ago 15
Join game
Insta-Join Greifer-Killer Guild
Go around killing Trolls and Griefers all day long, they cant fight back due to massive numbers.
Game is saved, our guild is a legend.
VegetarianLyfe 1 year ago
"This is the game I've always wanted!
Now let's grief everyone all day every day so that no new players will want to join and quickly kill the game off!"
These games require a sense of community, but tend to attract a crowd of people that would rather ruin the game for people. I'm hoping there will be a lot of people who actually want to start communities and band together against these griefers.
heartdaplague 1 year ago
@heartdaplague
ever tried havenandheart (same developers, btw)? it works pretty fine
GL4408 1 year ago
@GL4408
Haven and Hearth isn't nearly as publicised as this is (and it's barely in production, so it will just get crazier) and its graphics don't appeal to people who just want to grief. I'm hoping it will work and the perma-death aspect will keep out most of the people who just want to run around murdering people. If they implement something like the scent trails from H&H it will be fine, because murderers really have no chance.
heartdaplague 1 year ago 2
*cough* havenandhearth*cough*
jorb, h&h beta? :P
GL4408 1 year ago
That guy, he... He looks like someone who would come up with a game like that, if you know what I mean here.
ClockCommunist 1 year ago
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GL4408 1 year ago
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@ClockCommunist he already did x)
GL4408 1 year ago
This has been flagged as spam show
@ClockCommunist
well, he already did
GL4408 1 year ago
TAKE MY MONEY, ALL OF IT.
Darkfirelol1019 1 year ago 54
@Darkfirelol1019 lol the game is free!! lmao!!
Thet3 1 year ago
sounds very interesting, intense pvp with real stakes.
mrflibblesthecat 1 year ago
Yo homie, please get your eye checked out, I think its about to permanently die on you. No eye replacement though, you just have to leave the socket and empty void
DeathRowChris 1 year ago
grief grief grief ...
Knapperr 1 year ago
This has been flagged as spam show
@Knapperr It's called FREEDOM.
St4rdog 1 year ago
This guy freaks my out with his left eye. This game sounds cool but the griefing will have to be moderated
Cammac360 1 year ago
COOOOOOOL! :D
Davisx3m 1 year ago
I'm not really into MMORPGs but this sounds so awesome!
troutAss 1 year ago
Permanent death? Let the griefing begin =D
muffinman816 1 year ago
@muffinman816 I imagine it's this kind of mentality, and the trolls in general, that'll absolutely ruin this game
darkcowboyhero 1 year ago 3