Hear what God of Israel YAHUSHUA-YAHUWAH (Son and Father are ONE) saying to our generation by His chosen prophets: Trumpetcallofgodonline. com ; Letter called "Purify Your Faith, and Come to the Father as It is Written": EXCERPT: "Only in the Bible and through these very Letters, of which I have given to My prophet of the end of this age, shall you find Him and know Him."
Contemplate much less the 'I shall progress,' than the 'I' stand in 'my way'.While you use thoughts which attract or repulse you only for purposes of stimulation, you are only half alive.You are also cooperating in keeping yourself in good training to be conditioned by others.There are a lot of people who cannot stand the tension of waiting.These are the ones who have two alternatives: either to stand the tension of waiting or to be harmed by it.
You lot should be more worried about the technological Singularity. If anything is going to destroy our stay here it will be that. Good day to you people... time to look at your last dawn in wonder, well around 24 years away anyway.
What is called science by the *science-worshippers* of the present age and regarded by them as equivalent to the sum total of *reality*, is simply a collection of laws applicable to a single dimension of the world. The result of all human effort and experimentation is a body of knowledge concerning a minute bright dot comparable to the dim light of a candle-surrounded by a dark night enveloping a huge desert of indefinite extent.
All praise is due to ALLAH, the Lord of the Universe.
What Gives Particles Mass? Searching for Higgs Boson is needed vacuum So vacuum gives mass to particles First question: What is vacuum ? The Vacuum is the lowest background level of Energy E= 0 and temperature T= 0K If Vacuum is some kind of Energetic Space then particles there are energetic particles Dirac named them : virtual particles Second question: Which parameters can they have in T=0K ? Third question: How can these virtual particles become real particles ?
Religion and science CAN coexist peacefully. We're advanced as a civilization enough that we should stop fighting wars based on religion and differing beliefs. COME on people, I am a man of science, yet I believe in a higher power. I do not believe that matter and antimatter can come from nothing, and all the parallel universes have to have some divine intervention...Those are my personal beliefs however. Look up the hologram theory though lol
Religious people believe in science but they just don't want someone to discard their religious belief. As well as the atheists just fight for their belief there's no god.
For all you religious freaks out there, the god particle is actually called the Higgs Boson.
This particle has absolutely nothing to do with god or allah or the aztec gods. The media only uses the 'god particle' name to get extra attention for a more general public. The origin of the name is from Leon Lederman's book.
It's called the 'god particle' in a metaphorical sense because the Higgs mechanism makes it possible to simplify the universe, resolving many different forces into one.
I've explained this to you before, but perhaps you had just taken one of your stupid pills so I will explain it again. Atheism is nothing beyond the rejection of theistic claims as lacking sufficient evidence to justify belief.
Have you got anything apart from your usual tired old creatard crap copied from AIG or some equivalent cesspool of willful ignorance.
@BlueAvantiGuy "Atheism is nothing beyond the rejection of theistic claims as lacking sufficient evidence to justify belief." Only if it were that simple. Atheism is the naturalistic "the universe came into existence from nothing" doctrine. Any rejection of theism is the simultaneous acceptance of this truly bizarre worldview. The hypocrisy cannot be understated. I have yet to see any data whatsoever to support this position, despite the supposed lack of evidence for theism.
@theabiotictheory Wait is this guy serious? Or are you being sarcastic? You say that atheist belief the universe came into existence from nothing. THATS EXACTLY WHAT RELIGIONS BELIEVE! LMAO!!!!
You believe some god created everything out of nothing.
these fuckers are messing up time. they are creating this fake particle mimicking the memory of an electron...so that they can shoot this particle that travels faster than light. so that they can shoot it into space and create a wormhole...and bend time depending on the angel/layers of dimension for the specific date! believe me people! i will make a video of this as to how they will do it! msg me if you are interested.
@Chav...its a fucking massive waste of time and money. The dosh is better spent on medical research rather than given to a bunch of black rimmed glasses wearing nerds who are trying to prove the unprovable.
@MrAntiFarLeft Put the money spent on the Iraq war into medical research. It's way more, and totally wasted, and hasn't changed the world a bit. That way, we people in the real world can have this project, and Space Research too, and fuckers like you can stop ruining OUR World.
The West could end world poverty with the money it spends mowing front lawns. (FACT) Or twice over with what it spends on hair care products. (FACT)
So go and do that, end your useless war, and Hadron will be fine.
@MrAntiFarLeft They have now managed to study antiHydrogen atoms for 16 minutes, thanks to SERN. The previous record was .2 of a second.
Anti matter is what the rest of the universe is/ was made of. They have been trying to discover where it went. I know you flat earth creationists struggle with the concept, but I am proud that these scientists have brought this project this far.
Start trying to do some good in the world, you little short man syndrome sufferer.
@knightcaptaincullen Yeah.Lets auction of the vatigan real estate and all it's stolen nazi war treasures then we can stop hunger, cure cancer AND have the Hadron collider.
@knightcaptaincullen the god particle is just its name. no one really knows what a god is. but you are right that it will better for spending money elsewhere. but never will that happen.
Just think we are on a microscopic level to other things in the universe. Maybe this universe is a micro spec inside another universe...and so on...and on and on...like the Mandelbox set s=2, r=0.5 and f=
@PWTS8CntMffn : Maybe he wanted to be entertained by the ignorance? Maybe he wanted a new start after the great war in Heaven?? Why is it that we can only use 7% of our brain and still make LHCs?? Did we come from another being created in his image...to create things like this?? Is evil on earth here so that we can have a choice/free will?? Why is everything on earth made to be sustained/reproduced inside a giant bio dome?? Yes, I have many questions too..lol
I think our universe was created inside a device like this Large Hadron Collider, by some intelligent life in another universe, trying to understand their own.
Let's say science proved the existence of God, funny i can still imagine millions of people still rejecting the Idea. Or if science already has proven the existence of a "God" i doubt they would even take it to the media.
(ran out of characters)In the bible, yes, there was science!(well understanding of our world/universe)In the bible,it tells about the stars having their own song (each star emits its own frequency/special tone)it also tells of the world being round, and much more which i couldn't really all sum up in this post, so go look on the internet and do some actual research on these things, not going to totally biased websites,and don't just write off one belief,if you have different thoughts fine by me.
@xXDb24x I feel the same way regarding the issue. I don't understand why both science and religion cannot co-exist. If the really is a diety out there, why does he have to exist in our human conception of Heaven (ie. gates, castles, etc.). Why can't he exist as a particle in space, and why can't his will be enacted through scientific events. If he has a master plan, could he not of set up a chain of scientific occurrences to make it happen?
For people trolling god/science, (pretty much everyone) Is it wrong to believe in both things? God created the heavens and the earth, Big bang happened, somehow it was made in 6 days (OR we got a massively huge mistake when translating old languages). People also think (or so i've heard) that nothing in the bible proves God's existence and thinks god thinks science is bad, or think that there are many things in the bible that are wrong about the world today, well you should probably read this.^^
@junkfood1991 Everyone is so mean and tuff on the internet! It's all due to ambiguity. There's no one on one face communication, so it allows people to be rude and disrespectful to their fellow man. It's sad actually that most people on the internet have to resort to infantile name calling. Aren't I allowed to voice my thoughts to a machine? Not a human? After all I'm pretty sure your a nice person deep down. Just take it easy and think twice maybe.
God cannot be proven nor can it be dismissed. He will remain a faith for eternity. Theres no reason to say that he exists or not, because there is no way we can know.
@mik2995 Well my friend, first there's no need for a god to create this universe, these beliefs are a huge lie to manage part of the human kind, if you investigate about human history you will understand...besides... are you defending this god or his existence bcs you are a believer or what was your point?
@badbadruberpig the proof is in the mirror and i suggest you take a good look at it. you cant see the forest because of all those trees in your way and your telling people who can see the trees they are not there plus you are asumming truth out of science thats not proven why are you so quick to belive what comes out of mens mouth
instead of turnning to the word of god ? ill tell you why your blind and need to be born again.
@REAL88E@REAL88E ....I'm not gonna waste my time talking with this closed minded person like yourself, I'm just gonna say to you...its ok ...you can believe on whatever you like...since its clear that's your most powerful need..believe in something that will give you a good sense of your entire existence. But not me ..thank you, I don't need it.
@badbadruberpig okay your so caught up in sin you cant even think clearly
just the first line of your statement is a lie.....I'm not gonna waste my time...... you did just what you said you wouldnt do. man sin blinds and then you may justify your statement with more lies to make you more blind about being blind. peace
How could some of the scientists permit themselves to make a claim that would necessitate knowledge as extensive as the scheme of the universe, when their knowledge of the total scheme of being is *close* to zero, when confronted with a whole mass of unknowns concerning this very earth and tangible, lifeless matter, let alone the whole universe?
can someone anwer this question for me please--has anyone considered how deep this thing is, and how big around it is--how do you move that much dirt, how did they dig this thing out--its like the big blocks that exist on the earth, everyone is mystified on how they moved them, nobody sites back to figure out, how did they cut a 200 ton block out of stone, dont say with a saw, how do you cut that out of sheer rock with a hand saw
It's funny, all this construction of something to see if everthing came from nothing, so much something just to measure nothing, but the something to measure the nothing had to come from somewhere, the us. Any measurement of the universe that excludes you, to me is inacurate.
@VarvaraBell "It's funny, all this construction of something to see if everthing came from nothing, "
No, it's an experiment to learn more about the nature of gravity. I advise you to double-check your assumptions, you appear to be very much misinformed.
Despite what popular media keeps babbling, LHC can't get anywhere near a new Big Bang.
Yeah they arnt going to find the higgs, cause gravity is a property of space/time not matter. and god doesnt exist. 2 good reasons why they will never find it :D
@pawnshopr Ive been thinking aout blackholes as well. And the point that if not even light can excape them, but gravity can... ??! That means the higgs particle would have to travel faster than the speed of light in order for the black hole to have gravity. So detecting it with electronics isn't going to work.
if you make a fire is the cabon dioxide inside the carbon and the oxygen since when you combine oxygen win carbon you get cabon dioxide? this question is based on explaining the effect of cabon dioxide as a cause of somthing inside the cabon and the oxygen. when lhc collide protons and get an effect of quarks they think the quarks exist inside the protons because thats the particles they see after the collision. why is the effects always used to explain causes and isnt that circular logic?
Please *stop* calling the "Higgs Boson" the "God Particle". You might as well put up a FOX News logo at the beginning of the video. There is nothing particularly special about the Higgs Boson, except that it's one of the pieces of the Standard Model which has not been confirmed. If LHC does not find it, then we have new (negative) data to steer us toward a yet more accurate theory. This "God Particle" shit is simply a platform which allows the ignorant to misunderstand science more convincingly.
@seriouslycurious1 world peace borders on the line of ignorance, to believe that our species, one thats history is smeared with violence, could be peaceful is just simply crazy, world peace is not the answer, we need world tolerance
@seriouslycurious1 i personally do not believe in god or gods, so your statement has no meaning to me, also, i do not believe it has any relevance to what i said
Keep in mind, people that harass this experiment. The very reason you are able to type your silly meaning for ppls all over the globe to see is because of these guys, they invented the Internet and gave it away for free. The same goes for a ton of other material valued things that you use daily, and depend on. These guys are also inventing new ways of treating cancer, would you tell them what they are doing is useless?
@mydollstuff Huge amounts of data is flowing in as we speak. Its going to take years to go through it. Its literally like reading a freaking big book, it takes time.
Is it at all possible that the cells of the body should learn their functions, pursue their aim in a precise and orderly fashion, and crystallize so miraculously in the world of being, without there being a conscious and powerful being to instruct them?
Is it not rather the case that phenomena such as these prove and demonstrate, with the utmost emphasis, the need for a plan, a design, a guiding hand inspired by conscious will?
There is one point fixed in the mind for these deniers of Design and Purpose, to wit, death and annihilation. They think that it would have been proper it men had been given everlasting lives without any trouble or harm.
It is necessary to carry the argument to its logical conclusion to see the consequences it leads to. Just see that if all men had lived everlasting lives, this earth would have become too narrow for them; they would not have had room enough for their dwellings,
@HeftigeHarry Explain child death and rape with your God.
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Your war monger politicians spent billions of dollars on wars instead of building the proper infrastructure of law and order and you have the nerve to blame the grand architect of the Universe for the stupidities of your politicians?
Who told you mankind is to live forever on earth instead of paradise or hell?
How could it be believed that matter should itself be the origin of millions of attributes and characteristics and thus be the equivalent of the purposeful, wise and all-knowing Creator?
How can it be supposed that belief in the existence of God is the acceptance of contradiction, whereas belief in the uncaused nature of an effect such as matter is not contradictory?
@1tabligh its obvious that the laws of physics shape the universe and transform energy. with the laws of physics an all knowing creator is not needed. one might consider consciousness god, since all matter appears to be conscious, and a wave of consciousness connects everything in the universe. matter is hardly "uncaused" it is the result of our perception of the third dimension. really matter is a wave that contains no physical properties, but when observed the wave function collapses.
@Dustencumbie Then how can the atheists delude themselve and believe that hydrogen and oxygen, electrons and protons, should first produce themselves, then be the source for all other beings, and finally decree the laws that regulate themselves and the rest of the material world?
@1tabligh Some people think the universe was always there, some people think a god was always there. No one can prove either theory 100%, so why get upset about it? Nobody really knows. Acting like you have the answer is ridiculous and conceited. We think we're so special, but we're a speck of dust, on a speck of dust planet, in a tiny solar system in one of millions of galaxies, and some people believe there is more than one universe. Just be glad to be a part of it.
@ilovechairmanmeow Have you seen that the universe always existed and will always exist?
How come you have taken one side over the other. It is wiser for you to say 'I don't know,' and I will subject myself to further scrutiny, than to take a stand and say there's 'No God' because you have taken that stand and you have *no* evidence.
@1tabligh I didn't take a stand, or take one side over the other. You must have me mistaken with someone else. My main point was how pointless the whole argument is. I believe the universe was designed by an intelligence and that's the end of it. I do not believe there is judgement or scrutiny of any kind on our world, nor do I believe any of the mythology in any holy book written by man.
@ilovechairmanmeow I believe the universe was designed by an intelligence ...
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Call Him by whatever name you like "an intelligence" (Allah, Jehovah, God, Merciful, Bhagwan etc), as long as the word is not contaminated, (does not conjure up a mental picture) Ex, if We say Muhammad, We conjure up a mental picture of an arab, who lived in mecka 1356 years ago .. or something like that, therefore Muhammad is not God, why? because we conjure up something in the mind. Similarly any words
@1tabligh "Him", "His"...these words conjure a mental picture far more vivid and precise than "intelligence"...for me anyway. As somebody who quotes a man-made holy book, I see that you will not understand. You started to make a good point, but you ended it with a command. Supposedly part of your answer to an infinitely complex question. To make such a claim is manipulative and irresponsible if not completely insane.
@ilovechairmanmeow Should the scientist, who is aware of the natural causes and of the factors determining each step of creation towards perfection, of mankind's evolution, of the minute accuracy and exactitude that rules every change in the nature that surrounds us, come to believe that these wondrous laws and amazing interactions have somehow *fortuitously* emerged out of *mindless* matter?
@ilovechairmanmeow Is it at all feasible to regard all the geometry, functioning and movement of the universe as the outcome of matter in its ignorance?
@OldaurGold Then how can the atheists delude themselve and believe that hydrogen and oxygen, electrons and protons, should first produce themselves, then be the source for all other beings, and finally decree the laws that regulate themselves and the rest of the material world?
@1tabligh Oxygen is formed is suns/gamma ray bursts, hydrogen is a stable structure composed of particles. In those particles we can observe processes that comes from literally nothing, called virtual particles. They spring into existence, "borrowing" energy from elsewhere and then disappears a short while after. In the case where time does not exist (before the existence of a universe) the conditions are very different. We can observe these conditions in black holes where things basically
@Deliwio How can it be supposed that belief in the existence of God is the acceptance of contradiction, whereas belief in the uncaused nature of an effect such as matter is not contradictory?
How could it be believed that matter should itself be the origin of millions of attributes and characteristics and thus be the equivalent of the purposeful, wise and all-knowing Creator?
@1tabligh conjures up out of nothing in the singularity (center of the black hole). These two factors allows a creation of something made from nothing. There are more of these explanations going around in the physicist community. The point is that we dont need a god, which in the first place is a stupid thing to invoke on things we dont understand, in order to make something arise out of nothing. Quantum inflation and no-boundary conditions (w/o time) is putting your god in the trashcan.
@Deliwio the universe is god. and since the universe is me, i'm god. you better fucking worship me, pig, or i'll make your life really really really fucking bad. and then i'll break you in your afterlife. YAY!
@Deliwio so what is the universe contained in? our universe exists in the physical dimension, therefor it is governed by those 'rules'. So if something in this dimension has a beginning it must have an end. so where is the end and what is it contained in? This question is almost impossible to answer. So your across the board statement is still substantiated by answers you dont have. If you cant answer this question and im sure you cant, you should 'shut' what they call the 'fuck up'.
@1tabligh you know, you people really need to stop telling others you opinion. People like you are very very very arrogant and need to shut up before you get us all into a fight
@HeftigeHarry Then how can the atheists delude themselve and believe that hydrogen and oxygen, electrons and protons, should first produce themselves, then be the source for all other beings, and finally decree the laws that regulate themselves and the rest of the material world?
Imagine this experiment on billions upon billions of times, as that is how many planets there are that are suited for life in a way we know of (for a moment neglecting the thousand times greater in number planets that may support life we can't conceive off). It would be a miracle if life had not arisen in this galaxy, that would be a very big coincidence. However, that is not the case, is it?
What does abiogenesis have to do with particle-physics? You lost me there.
Reality may not be understood, but there always is a hidden explanation until the facts are discovered to the full. The Sum of the Universe is Zero or Nothing, it was created as known from Nothing & it will one day come back to Nothing. So Nothing or Vacume is something, a combination of Matter & Anti-Matter plus Energy & Anti-Energy balancing each other. God is the Infinate Universe itself and the Universe always existed in one form or the other, going from one cycle of existance to the other.
@utubeadminamadeo1 Why must you bring god into it? It is meaningless. If the universe has existed for ever (in one form or another, as you put it) then it didn't come from nothing as it didn't "come" at all. It did come from nothing, as you state, but time is part of that sum of all parts equaling zero.
@josephshawa Then how can the atheists delude themselve and believe that hydrogen and oxygen, electrons and protons, should first produce themselves, then be the source for all other beings, and finally decree the laws that regulate themselves and the rest of the material world?
@1tabligh "Produce themselves" ? That is delusional. Not understanding how something occurs shouldn't prompt one to invent a definitive solution....ie "The Cows made it"
Imagine an infinite number of universes being created at all times(not really a good word, time).
@1tabligh Sometimes the resulting rules of that universe will work in favor of life (very rarely yet an infinite number of times) other times instant universal destruction (more often, yet still an infinite number of times)....AN INFINITE NUMBER!!!!.
@1tabligh Hard to fathom but easy to understand. Is there room for a god in this scenerio? Yes. Absolutely! We are talking about INFINITY here. Is their a reason to believe that there IS a god just because there COULD be? For some, that is reason enough, no proof needed. For others, nope. It isn't necessary. Why make it so.
@josephshawa How can it be supposed that belief in the existence of God is the acceptance of contradiction, whereas belief in the uncaused nature of an effect such as matter is not contradictory?
@1tabligh Who said it was? That is simply closed minded thinking. But whether one NEEDS a god to explain existance is what is in question. I don 't. You do. It is all OK. Just different neuronal connections. Although, your line of thinking requires the preexistance of a god to allow creation to happen. I say, it all happened at once; with or without god.
@josephshawa How could it be believed that matter should itself be the origin of millions of attributes and characteristics and thus be the equivalent of the purposeful, wise and all-knowing Creator?
@1tabligh You must know infiinty. As for the wise and all knowing creator, you lost me. Remember that my nerons are different than yours and that is ok.
@josephshawa Is it at all possible that the cells of the body should learn their functions, pursue their aim in a precise and orderly fashion, and crystallize so miraculously in the world of being, without there being a conscious and powerful being to instruct them?
Is it not rather the case that phenomena such as these prove and demonstrate, with the utmost emphasis, the need for a plan, a design, a guiding hand inspired by conscious will?
@1tabligh If it makes you happy then BELIEVE IN A GOD! What is your problem. It is like you haven't read anything I've written or at least tried to understand. Typical of your type. I don't think, that while dealing with infinity, as we are, that anything is impossible including life and all of its variations. You seem to think otherwise. That is OKAY.
@1tabligh But you want to attribute the "miracle of life" to some other miracle called god. I don't. That is make believe in my mind because I have not an even tiny bit of evidence of it. Try to understand infinity a little and you migh get past your need for a miracle.
@josephshawa What realistic scientist, sincerely given to seeking the truth could claim today that while a kidney transplant is the result of centuries of continuous scientific research and experimentation, the structure of the kidney itself reveals no trace of a creative intelligence and will, being the product of mere nature—nature which has no more knowledge or awareness than a kindergarten pupil?
@SSTTEEAALLTTHH After years of careful planning and exhausting labor, biochemists have succeeded in discovering certain experimental organisms on a very simple and primitive level from which all trace of life is absent. This scientific triumph was regarded as very valuable and received with great enthusiasm in scientific circles, and nobody claimed that this highly deficient and primitive laboratory creation had come into being as the result of chance, without direction, planning and precision.
"organisms on a very simple and primitive level from which all trace of life is absent" How can it be an organism if it isn't alive? How is it supposed to maintain homeostasis? Do you have any idea what you are talking about?
@SSTTEEAALLTTHH Is it not more logical to posit the existence of intelligence, will and planning in the creation of and ordering of the world than to attribute creativity to matter which lacks intelligence, thought, consciousness and the power to innovate?
Is it not more logical to posit the existence of intelligence, will and planning in the creation of and ordering of the world than to attribute creativity to matter which lacks intelligence, thought, consciousness and the power to innovate?
No. Few things is more illogical then the giant bearded man in the sky who gives people souls and condemns and saves them. Few things are more illogical than after so may centuries still accepting the "god must have done it"-easy answer.
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Hear what God of Israel YAHUSHUA-YAHUWAH (Son and Father are ONE) saying to our generation by His chosen prophets: Trumpetcallofgodonline. com ; Letter called "Purify Your Faith, and Come to the Father as It is Written": EXCERPT: "Only in the Bible and through these very Letters, of which I have given to My prophet of the end of this age, shall you find Him and know Him."
Watch:
"youtube.com/watch?v=INH-lNUQQZg"
"youtube.com/watch?v=lutJYDxP6ys"
"youtube.com/watch?v=R9ike7PKd8U"
Regards.
TrumpetCallofGodLT 4 weeks ago
Contemplate much less the 'I shall progress,' than the 'I' stand in 'my way'.While you use thoughts which attract or repulse you only for purposes of stimulation, you are only half alive.You are also cooperating in keeping yourself in good training to be conditioned by others.There are a lot of people who cannot stand the tension of waiting.These are the ones who have two alternatives: either to stand the tension of waiting or to be harmed by it.
bozolazic 1 month ago
@00:46 Omg it's MacGyver! I'm sure he'll figure it out for us!
Asure007 1 month ago
I am God! Any questions?
bozolazic 1 month ago
@bozolazic when do i finally get laid? :(
020amsterda020 1 month ago
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To smart for your own good!
plaszid1 2 months ago
You lot should be more worried about the technological Singularity. If anything is going to destroy our stay here it will be that. Good day to you people... time to look at your last dawn in wonder, well around 24 years away anyway.
TheGodParticle 2 months ago
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And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:
Have u lied? Have u stolen? Jesus said if you look at a woman with lust you have committed adultery with her in your heart. have u done that?
If God judge’s u by the Ten Commandments will u be innocent or guilty? Heaven or Hell? Does this concern you?
Do u need a Savior from your sins?
Jesus (The Son of God)came, lived a sinless life, died on the cross (for our sins) and rose again on the third day.needgod.com
standingontruth1 3 months ago in playlist conspiracy theory
What is the Number of the God Particle? = 2100 (english gem.)
Yehoshua HaMashiach = 921 (Jewish Gematria)
-->9:21 PM = 21:21
The Numer of the God Particle = 313 (clock)
The Numbers of Yeshua HaMashiach = 313 (clock)
--->Jesus the Messiah
What is the Number of the God Particle? = 2280 (clock gem.)
What's the Number of Yehoshua HaMashiach? = 2280 (clock gem.)
ClockNumerology 3 months ago
@ClockNumerology ??
WSSIIWarlordII 4 weeks ago
@WSSIIWarlordII shall i contune ; )
ClockNumerology 4 weeks ago
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What is called science by the *science-worshippers* of the present age and regarded by them as equivalent to the sum total of *reality*, is simply a collection of laws applicable to a single dimension of the world. The result of all human effort and experimentation is a body of knowledge concerning a minute bright dot comparable to the dim light of a candle-surrounded by a dark night enveloping a huge desert of indefinite extent.
All praise is due to ALLAH, the Lord of the Universe.
1tabligh 4 months ago
i don't want to hear about mormonism when i want to learn science.
theartofnotbeingseen 4 months ago
israelsocratus 4 months ago
Religion and science CAN coexist peacefully. We're advanced as a civilization enough that we should stop fighting wars based on religion and differing beliefs. COME on people, I am a man of science, yet I believe in a higher power. I do not believe that matter and antimatter can come from nothing, and all the parallel universes have to have some divine intervention...Those are my personal beliefs however. Look up the hologram theory though lol
cojocoolio 4 months ago
@cojocoolio
I was going to add my two cents quite similarly as you had, but you have managed to say all pretty eloquently. So thank you.:)
HummingbirdAllegory 4 months ago
@HummingbirdAllegory I aim to please :P
cojocoolio 4 months ago
@cojocoolio Thats well well said man. Very well said.
xxLinaxNinjaxx 1 month ago
@codowni not believing god is a belief, belief theres no god. Do you believe them theres no god?
jayfedo 5 months ago
Who's paying for all this?
sixersstar 5 months ago
@sixersstar Who do you think... :S
Fapsamup 5 months ago
@sixersstar How much money did the universe cost? :D
Raoult007 5 months ago
well it seems that the god particle doesn't exist as thought. so now what?
immortal4942 5 months ago
i am the second coming wait and see it is almost time
tvbufff 6 months ago
who is this lesbian talking?
CommradeSniper 6 months ago
Religious people believe in science but they just don't want someone to discard their religious belief. As well as the atheists just fight for their belief there's no god.
jayfedo 6 months ago
@jayfedo
Not believing in God is not a belief.
codownni 5 months ago
For all you religious freaks out there, the god particle is actually called the Higgs Boson.
This particle has absolutely nothing to do with god or allah or the aztec gods. The media only uses the 'god particle' name to get extra attention for a more general public. The origin of the name is from Leon Lederman's book.
It's called the 'god particle' in a metaphorical sense because the Higgs mechanism makes it possible to simplify the universe, resolving many different forces into one.
Edge123455 6 months ago
@Edge123455 dude the quantum theory have u read that? it explains the existence of God.
flexpape 4 months ago
It's 2011, update please!!
roseagain2 6 months ago
is this safe
eminem334455 6 months ago
Han shot first...
ItalianBandit 6 months ago
I love how only religious cunts hate it! And super symmetry looks sick I always wanted a twin!
NewAgeSkaters 6 months ago
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Where are all the idiots who said that LHC will create a wormhole that destroys the earth?
TheFinlandnator 6 months ago
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TheFinlandnator 6 months ago
2:51 santa!
fenway41fan 6 months ago
What a colossal failure. Atheism loses again.
theabiotictheory 6 months ago
@theabiotictheory "What a colossal failure. Atheism loses again."
I've explained this to you before, but perhaps you had just taken one of your stupid pills so I will explain it again. Atheism is nothing beyond the rejection of theistic claims as lacking sufficient evidence to justify belief.
Have you got anything apart from your usual tired old creatard crap copied from AIG or some equivalent cesspool of willful ignorance.
BlueAvantiGuy 6 months ago
@BlueAvantiGuy "Atheism is nothing beyond the rejection of theistic claims as lacking sufficient evidence to justify belief." Only if it were that simple. Atheism is the naturalistic "the universe came into existence from nothing" doctrine. Any rejection of theism is the simultaneous acceptance of this truly bizarre worldview. The hypocrisy cannot be understated. I have yet to see any data whatsoever to support this position, despite the supposed lack of evidence for theism.
theabiotictheory 6 months ago
@theabiotictheory Wow, Abiotic - you built yourself a strawman and then utterly trashed it.
BlueAvantiGuy 6 months ago
@theabiotictheory Wait is this guy serious? Or are you being sarcastic? You say that atheist belief the universe came into existence from nothing. THATS EXACTLY WHAT RELIGIONS BELIEVE! LMAO!!!!
You believe some god created everything out of nothing.
Way to contradict your self, dumb ass.
MW2Addiction 6 months ago
Wasting a lot of time and resources on nothing going to fracture the core
nowareman 7 months ago
What is up with the fly in the middle of a billions of dollars experiment.
miriangpinheiro 7 months ago
these fuckers are messing up time. they are creating this fake particle mimicking the memory of an electron...so that they can shoot this particle that travels faster than light. so that they can shoot it into space and create a wormhole...and bend time depending on the angel/layers of dimension for the specific date! believe me people! i will make a video of this as to how they will do it! msg me if you are interested.
undergroundjackal 8 months ago
@undergroundjackal get help
Extermanat0r88 7 months ago
WHERE ARE THE BLACK FOLK, for a lack of a better understood term? makes you think.... THEY NEED TO STOP!
julesmyworld 8 months ago
@julesmyworld Lol, I like how people can turn things that has nothing to do with racism. Into a racism debate.
PhotographShop 8 months ago
@Chav...its a fucking massive waste of time and money. The dosh is better spent on medical research rather than given to a bunch of black rimmed glasses wearing nerds who are trying to prove the unprovable.
MrAntiFarLeft 8 months ago
@MrAntiFarLeft Put the money spent on the Iraq war into medical research. It's way more, and totally wasted, and hasn't changed the world a bit. That way, we people in the real world can have this project, and Space Research too, and fuckers like you can stop ruining OUR World.
The West could end world poverty with the money it spends mowing front lawns. (FACT) Or twice over with what it spends on hair care products. (FACT)
So go and do that, end your useless war, and Hadron will be fine.
chavrecycling 8 months ago
@chavrecycling It's ok, little feller. I didn't expect an answer to that one.
chavrecycling 8 months ago
@chavrecycling
This isn't the first time I've caught you talking to yourself. Whack job!!!!!!!
IamanInfidel 7 months ago
@MrAntiFarLeft They have now managed to study antiHydrogen atoms for 16 minutes, thanks to SERN. The previous record was .2 of a second.
Anti matter is what the rest of the universe is/ was made of. They have been trying to discover where it went. I know you flat earth creationists struggle with the concept, but I am proud that these scientists have brought this project this far.
Start trying to do some good in the world, you little short man syndrome sufferer.
chavrecycling 7 months ago
This is never going to get finished because we are 3 days till the end of the world -wink- -wink-
PhiberOptics 8 months ago
@PhiberOptics LOL, you said that a week or so ago! :P
Trinityk7s 8 months ago
the nerds particle
MrAntiFarLeft 8 months ago
@MrAntiFarLeft What's your problem with it? Your invisible godfairy in the sky causing you problems?
chavrecycling 8 months ago
The Devil Particle
devilhunter59 8 months ago
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devilhunter59 8 months ago
God isn't a particle and searching for answers when they are clearly written down for you in the only book worth reading is foolish.
This seems to me to be yet another waste of time and money that could be spent solving third world hunger or curing cancer.
knightcaptaincullen 8 months ago
@knightcaptaincullen Yeah.Lets auction of the vatigan real estate and all it's stolen nazi war treasures then we can stop hunger, cure cancer AND have the Hadron collider.
stratocaster539 8 months ago
knightcaptaincullen 8 months ago
@knightcaptaincullen the god particle is just its name. no one really knows what a god is. but you are right that it will better for spending money elsewhere. but never will that happen.
undergroundjackal 8 months ago
Just think we are on a microscopic level to other things in the universe. Maybe this universe is a micro spec inside another universe...and so on...and on and on...like the Mandelbox set s=2, r=0.5 and f=
moJomittens 8 months ago
this makes my dick feel good
lanceunderpants 8 months ago
Someone please explain to me why (if god exists) god would even want/need to create us in the first place...
PWTS8CntMffn 9 months ago
@PWTS8CntMffn : Maybe he wanted to be entertained by the ignorance? Maybe he wanted a new start after the great war in Heaven?? Why is it that we can only use 7% of our brain and still make LHCs?? Did we come from another being created in his image...to create things like this?? Is evil on earth here so that we can have a choice/free will?? Why is everything on earth made to be sustained/reproduced inside a giant bio dome?? Yes, I have many questions too..lol
moJomittens 8 months ago
I think our universe was created inside a device like this Large Hadron Collider, by some intelligent life in another universe, trying to understand their own.
BrendanWhelan 9 months ago
Let's say science proved the existence of God, funny i can still imagine millions of people still rejecting the Idea. Or if science already has proven the existence of a "God" i doubt they would even take it to the media.
dp100 9 months ago
@dp100 you could say the same thing going the other way. If science proved there is no God millions would still believe there is a God.
L1zardK1n9 9 months ago
Does any of this scare the Shit outta you?
Cus it sure scares the SHIT outta ME!
creaturebotman 9 months ago
I don't get it.
TwinMountain 9 months ago
melbourne uni!!! good as
alip2310 9 months ago
(ran out of characters)In the bible, yes, there was science!(well understanding of our world/universe)In the bible,it tells about the stars having their own song (each star emits its own frequency/special tone)it also tells of the world being round, and much more which i couldn't really all sum up in this post, so go look on the internet and do some actual research on these things, not going to totally biased websites,and don't just write off one belief,if you have different thoughts fine by me.
xXDb24x 9 months ago
@xXDb24x I feel the same way regarding the issue. I don't understand why both science and religion cannot co-exist. If the really is a diety out there, why does he have to exist in our human conception of Heaven (ie. gates, castles, etc.). Why can't he exist as a particle in space, and why can't his will be enacted through scientific events. If he has a master plan, could he not of set up a chain of scientific occurrences to make it happen?
defern64 8 months ago
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MrTimstahable 8 months ago
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MrTimstahable 8 months ago
For people trolling god/science, (pretty much everyone) Is it wrong to believe in both things? God created the heavens and the earth, Big bang happened, somehow it was made in 6 days (OR we got a massively huge mistake when translating old languages). People also think (or so i've heard) that nothing in the bible proves God's existence and thinks god thinks science is bad, or think that there are many things in the bible that are wrong about the world today, well you should probably read this.^^
xXDb24x 9 months ago
What a waste of money!
markdoswald 9 months ago
@markdoswald what a waste of your brain cells!
junkfood1991 9 months ago
@junkfood1991 Everyone is so mean and tuff on the internet! It's all due to ambiguity. There's no one on one face communication, so it allows people to be rude and disrespectful to their fellow man. It's sad actually that most people on the internet have to resort to infantile name calling. Aren't I allowed to voice my thoughts to a machine? Not a human? After all I'm pretty sure your a nice person deep down. Just take it easy and think twice maybe.
markdoswald 9 months ago
@markdoswald no sry. U think twice about the impact of this machine has to our future!
junkfood1991 9 months ago
@markdoswald, you know what markdoswald...you're absolutely correct. The Internet is a nasty world.
Vibez727727 9 months ago
If the scientists were able to create a Higgs particle, after it decayed what would happen to the current Higgs field? Would it effectively double.
xeroaxlvx 9 months ago
to all those science faith people trolling God, "God created science" lol
jordan7787 10 months ago
@jordan7787 Your "God"...didn't create anything buddy...bcs HE DOES NOT EXIST...there's NO prouf of that my friend and never will be.
badbadruberpig 10 months ago
@badbadruberpig
God cannot be proven nor can it be dismissed. He will remain a faith for eternity. Theres no reason to say that he exists or not, because there is no way we can know.
mik2995 9 months ago
@mik2995 Well my friend, first there's no need for a god to create this universe, these beliefs are a huge lie to manage part of the human kind, if you investigate about human history you will understand...besides... are you defending this god or his existence bcs you are a believer or what was your point?
badbadruberpig 9 months ago
@badbadruberpig the proof is in the mirror and i suggest you take a good look at it. you cant see the forest because of all those trees in your way and your telling people who can see the trees they are not there plus you are asumming truth out of science thats not proven why are you so quick to belive what comes out of mens mouth
instead of turnning to the word of god ? ill tell you why your blind and need to be born again.
REAL88E 9 months ago
@REAL88E @REAL88E ....I'm not gonna waste my time talking with this closed minded person like yourself, I'm just gonna say to you...its ok ...you can believe on whatever you like...since its clear that's your most powerful need..believe in something that will give you a good sense of your entire existence. But not me ..thank you, I don't need it.
badbadruberpig 9 months ago
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@badbadruberpig okay your so caught up in sin you cant even think clearly
just the first line of your statement is a lie.....I'm not gonna waste my time...... you did just what you said you wouldnt do. man sin blinds and then you may justify your statement with more lies to make you more blind about being blind. peace
REAL88E 9 months ago
@jordan7787 since when is science a faith? >.>
AwesomenessJim 9 months ago
to all those religious people trolling science," God created science "LOL
mhector3500 10 months ago
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The atheist Delusion!
How could some of the scientists permit themselves to make a claim that would necessitate knowledge as extensive as the scheme of the universe, when their knowledge of the total scheme of being is *close* to zero, when confronted with a whole mass of unknowns concerning this very earth and tangible, lifeless matter, let alone the whole universe?
1tabligh 10 months ago
can someone anwer this question for me please--has anyone considered how deep this thing is, and how big around it is--how do you move that much dirt, how did they dig this thing out--its like the big blocks that exist on the earth, everyone is mystified on how they moved them, nobody sites back to figure out, how did they cut a 200 ton block out of stone, dont say with a saw, how do you cut that out of sheer rock with a hand saw
SKERLOK 10 months ago
last time i heard from LHC was 2008 and what are the result.... !! or still they haven't tested any thing... !!
imranbug81 10 months ago
Stop being afraid of death seek Immortality (or eternal life) is the concept of living in a physical or spiritual form for an infinite length of time
TheRemedy2012 10 months ago
Angels & Demons
I'm surprised how Dan Brown is accurate with his information!
pcaminada1 10 months ago
It's funny, all this construction of something to see if everthing came from nothing, so much something just to measure nothing, but the something to measure the nothing had to come from somewhere, the us. Any measurement of the universe that excludes you, to me is inacurate.
VarvaraBell 11 months ago
@VarvaraBell "It's funny, all this construction of something to see if everthing came from nothing, "
No, it's an experiment to learn more about the nature of gravity. I advise you to double-check your assumptions, you appear to be very much misinformed.
Despite what popular media keeps babbling, LHC can't get anywhere near a new Big Bang.
StrikaAmaru 10 months ago
Yeah they arnt going to find the higgs, cause gravity is a property of space/time not matter. and god doesnt exist. 2 good reasons why they will never find it :D
Typho0n86 11 months ago
@Typho0n86 one simple reason why it doesn't matter if they find it or not... Even if they find it, question is what is the god particle comprised of.
pawnshopr 10 months ago
@pawnshopr Its not comprised of anything... It doesnt exist. matter bends space
Typho0n86 10 months ago
@Typho0n86 well yeah it doesn't exist that's what i'm saying :p I'm just saying it wouldn't matter whether it did or didn't
pawnshopr 10 months ago
@pawnshopr Ive been thinking aout blackholes as well. And the point that if not even light can excape them, but gravity can... ??! That means the higgs particle would have to travel faster than the speed of light in order for the black hole to have gravity. So detecting it with electronics isn't going to work.
Typho0n86 10 months ago
@Typho0n86 well the only way to detect it then would be by a form of comparison like a before/after effect scenario something like that
pawnshopr 10 months ago
if you make a fire is the cabon dioxide inside the carbon and the oxygen since when you combine oxygen win carbon you get cabon dioxide? this question is based on explaining the effect of cabon dioxide as a cause of somthing inside the cabon and the oxygen. when lhc collide protons and get an effect of quarks they think the quarks exist inside the protons because thats the particles they see after the collision. why is the effects always used to explain causes and isnt that circular logic?
coldarc 11 months ago
Please *stop* calling the "Higgs Boson" the "God Particle". You might as well put up a FOX News logo at the beginning of the video. There is nothing particularly special about the Higgs Boson, except that it's one of the pieces of the Standard Model which has not been confirmed. If LHC does not find it, then we have new (negative) data to steer us toward a yet more accurate theory. This "God Particle" shit is simply a platform which allows the ignorant to misunderstand science more convincingly.
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seriouslycurious1 1 year ago
@seriouslycurious1 world peace borders on the line of ignorance, to believe that our species, one thats history is smeared with violence, could be peaceful is just simply crazy, world peace is not the answer, we need world tolerance
Suspectcobra 11 months ago
@Suspectcobra god is energy
seriouslycurious1 11 months ago
@seriouslycurious1 i personally do not believe in god or gods, so your statement has no meaning to me, also, i do not believe it has any relevance to what i said
Suspectcobra 11 months ago
god particle
seriouslycurious1 1 year ago
higg's particle doesn't exist people. so lame. even a moron can figure that out.
a15gregjockca 1 year ago
Keep in mind, people that harass this experiment. The very reason you are able to type your silly meaning for ppls all over the globe to see is because of these guys, they invented the Internet and gave it away for free. The same goes for a ton of other material valued things that you use daily, and depend on. These guys are also inventing new ways of treating cancer, would you tell them what they are doing is useless?
Deliwio 1 year ago
@mydollstuff Huge amounts of data is flowing in as we speak. Its going to take years to go through it. Its literally like reading a freaking big book, it takes time.
Deliwio 1 year ago
dream on
shnazer1 1 year ago
it will goin to waste youre money hahahahah..
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cheristessa 1 year ago
What happened? It broke.
ReveretheHood 1 year ago
your right guys who wants knowledge? ignorance has gotten man far.
ssnips1 1 year ago
what is the point of this seriously?
dancthegr 1 year ago
the laws of physics are responsible for everything attributed to god
Dustencumbie 1 year ago
CERN is poking it's finger in the eye of God. Not good.
cravatta20 1 year ago
@cravatta20 shut up!
Dustencumbie 1 year ago
Religion. God. lol.
CRISNCHIPS12398 1 year ago
Is it at all possible that the cells of the body should learn their functions, pursue their aim in a precise and orderly fashion, and crystallize so miraculously in the world of being, without there being a conscious and powerful being to instruct them?
Is it not rather the case that phenomena such as these prove and demonstrate, with the utmost emphasis, the need for a plan, a design, a guiding hand inspired by conscious will?
1tabligh 1 year ago
Death
There is one point fixed in the mind for these deniers of Design and Purpose, to wit, death and annihilation. They think that it would have been proper it men had been given everlasting lives without any trouble or harm.
It is necessary to carry the argument to its logical conclusion to see the consequences it leads to. Just see that if all men had lived everlasting lives, this earth would have become too narrow for them; they would not have had room enough for their dwellings,
1tabligh 1 year ago
@HeftigeHarry Explain child death and rape with your God.
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Your war monger politicians spent billions of dollars on wars instead of building the proper infrastructure of law and order and you have the nerve to blame the grand architect of the Universe for the stupidities of your politicians?
Who told you mankind is to live forever on earth instead of paradise or hell?
1tabligh 1 year ago
@HeftigeHarry
Then where did they come from?
How could it be believed that matter should itself be the origin of millions of attributes and characteristics and thus be the equivalent of the purposeful, wise and all-knowing Creator?
How can it be supposed that belief in the existence of God is the acceptance of contradiction, whereas belief in the uncaused nature of an effect such as matter is not contradictory?
1tabligh 1 year ago
@1tabligh its obvious that the laws of physics shape the universe and transform energy. with the laws of physics an all knowing creator is not needed. one might consider consciousness god, since all matter appears to be conscious, and a wave of consciousness connects everything in the universe. matter is hardly "uncaused" it is the result of our perception of the third dimension. really matter is a wave that contains no physical properties, but when observed the wave function collapses.
Dustencumbie 1 year ago
@Dustencumbie Then how can the atheists delude themselve and believe that hydrogen and oxygen, electrons and protons, should first produce themselves, then be the source for all other beings, and finally decree the laws that regulate themselves and the rest of the material world?
1tabligh 1 year ago
@1tabligh Some people think the universe was always there, some people think a god was always there. No one can prove either theory 100%, so why get upset about it? Nobody really knows. Acting like you have the answer is ridiculous and conceited. We think we're so special, but we're a speck of dust, on a speck of dust planet, in a tiny solar system in one of millions of galaxies, and some people believe there is more than one universe. Just be glad to be a part of it.
ilovechairmanmeow 1 year ago
@ilovechairmanmeow Have you seen that the universe always existed and will always exist?
How come you have taken one side over the other. It is wiser for you to say 'I don't know,' and I will subject myself to further scrutiny, than to take a stand and say there's 'No God' because you have taken that stand and you have *no* evidence.
1tabligh 1 year ago
@1tabligh I didn't take a stand, or take one side over the other. You must have me mistaken with someone else. My main point was how pointless the whole argument is. I believe the universe was designed by an intelligence and that's the end of it. I do not believe there is judgement or scrutiny of any kind on our world, nor do I believe any of the mythology in any holy book written by man.
ilovechairmanmeow 1 year ago
@ilovechairmanmeow I believe the universe was designed by an intelligence ...
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Call Him by whatever name you like "an intelligence" (Allah, Jehovah, God, Merciful, Bhagwan etc), as long as the word is not contaminated, (does not conjure up a mental picture) Ex, if We say Muhammad, We conjure up a mental picture of an arab, who lived in mecka 1356 years ago .. or something like that, therefore Muhammad is not God, why? because we conjure up something in the mind. Similarly any words
1tabligh 1 year ago
@1tabligh "Him", "His"...these words conjure a mental picture far more vivid and precise than "intelligence"...for me anyway. As somebody who quotes a man-made holy book, I see that you will not understand. You started to make a good point, but you ended it with a command. Supposedly part of your answer to an infinitely complex question. To make such a claim is manipulative and irresponsible if not completely insane.
ilovechairmanmeow 1 year ago
@ilovechairmanmeow Should the scientist, who is aware of the natural causes and of the factors determining each step of creation towards perfection, of mankind's evolution, of the minute accuracy and exactitude that rules every change in the nature that surrounds us, come to believe that these wondrous laws and amazing interactions have somehow *fortuitously* emerged out of *mindless* matter?
1tabligh 1 year ago
@1tabligh The answer is no. But it should not be pursued further than that. To do so is an exercise in futility.
ilovechairmanmeow 1 year ago
@ilovechairmanmeow Is it at all feasible to regard all the geometry, functioning and movement of the universe as the outcome of matter in its ignorance?
1tabligh 1 year ago
@1tabligh but isn't that the beautiful thing. that we conjure up something in the mind? if we didnt this world would pretty dull and boring
OldaurGold 1 year ago
@OldaurGold Then how can the atheists delude themselve and believe that hydrogen and oxygen, electrons and protons, should first produce themselves, then be the source for all other beings, and finally decree the laws that regulate themselves and the rest of the material world?
1tabligh 1 year ago
@1tabligh Oxygen is formed is suns/gamma ray bursts, hydrogen is a stable structure composed of particles. In those particles we can observe processes that comes from literally nothing, called virtual particles. They spring into existence, "borrowing" energy from elsewhere and then disappears a short while after. In the case where time does not exist (before the existence of a universe) the conditions are very different. We can observe these conditions in black holes where things basically
Deliwio 1 year ago
@Deliwio How can it be supposed that belief in the existence of God is the acceptance of contradiction, whereas belief in the uncaused nature of an effect such as matter is not contradictory?
How could it be believed that matter should itself be the origin of millions of attributes and characteristics and thus be the equivalent of the purposeful, wise and all-knowing Creator?
1tabligh 1 year ago
@1tabligh conjures up out of nothing in the singularity (center of the black hole). These two factors allows a creation of something made from nothing. There are more of these explanations going around in the physicist community. The point is that we dont need a god, which in the first place is a stupid thing to invoke on things we dont understand, in order to make something arise out of nothing. Quantum inflation and no-boundary conditions (w/o time) is putting your god in the trashcan.
Deliwio 1 year ago
@Deliwio the universe is god. and since the universe is me, i'm god. you better fucking worship me, pig, or i'll make your life really really really fucking bad. and then i'll break you in your afterlife. YAY!
a15gregjockca 1 year ago
@Deliwio so what is the universe contained in? our universe exists in the physical dimension, therefor it is governed by those 'rules'. So if something in this dimension has a beginning it must have an end. so where is the end and what is it contained in? This question is almost impossible to answer. So your across the board statement is still substantiated by answers you dont have. If you cant answer this question and im sure you cant, you should 'shut' what they call the 'fuck up'.
Enshin69 1 year ago
@Enshin69 Classic!
RyanTheChristian 11 months ago
like Jesus (a jew, Bethlehem, .. AD), Budha etc or any creation are NOT to be used for God.
Say: "Invoke God, or invoke the Most Gracious:
by whichever name you invoke Him,
He is always the One -- for His are all the attributes of perfection."
The Quran 17:110
1tabligh 1 year ago
@1tabligh you know, you people really need to stop telling others you opinion. People like you are very very very arrogant and need to shut up before you get us all into a fight
OldaurGold 1 year ago
@HeftigeHarry Then how can the atheists delude themselve and believe that hydrogen and oxygen, electrons and protons, should first produce themselves, then be the source for all other beings, and finally decree the laws that regulate themselves and the rest of the material world?
1tabligh 1 year ago
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@1tabligh
Imagine this experiment on billions upon billions of times, as that is how many planets there are that are suited for life in a way we know of (for a moment neglecting the thousand times greater in number planets that may support life we can't conceive off). It would be a miracle if life had not arisen in this galaxy, that would be a very big coincidence. However, that is not the case, is it?
What does abiogenesis have to do with particle-physics? You lost me there.
SSTTEEAALLTTHH 1 year ago
What gives matter it's mass? simple: physical property of all particles
Why do we need to break everything into theoretical particles that some have no mass, others no form, etc. It's STUPID!
StelarCF 1 year ago
this is a good spot
sites.google.com/site/physicsphilosophyscience/home
Stupefience 1 year ago
Reality may not be understood, but there always is a hidden explanation until the facts are discovered to the full. The Sum of the Universe is Zero or Nothing, it was created as known from Nothing & it will one day come back to Nothing. So Nothing or Vacume is something, a combination of Matter & Anti-Matter plus Energy & Anti-Energy balancing each other. God is the Infinate Universe itself and the Universe always existed in one form or the other, going from one cycle of existance to the other.
utubeadminamadeo1 1 year ago
@utubeadminamadeo1 Why must you bring god into it? It is meaningless. If the universe has existed for ever (in one form or another, as you put it) then it didn't come from nothing as it didn't "come" at all. It did come from nothing, as you state, but time is part of that sum of all parts equaling zero.
josephshawa 1 year ago
@josephshawa Then how can the atheists delude themselve and believe that hydrogen and oxygen, electrons and protons, should first produce themselves, then be the source for all other beings, and finally decree the laws that regulate themselves and the rest of the material world?
1tabligh 1 year ago
@1tabligh "Produce themselves" ? That is delusional. Not understanding how something occurs shouldn't prompt one to invent a definitive solution....ie "The Cows made it"
Imagine an infinite number of universes being created at all times(not really a good word, time).
josephshawa 1 year ago
@1tabligh Sometimes the resulting rules of that universe will work in favor of life (very rarely yet an infinite number of times) other times instant universal destruction (more often, yet still an infinite number of times)....AN INFINITE NUMBER!!!!.
josephshawa 1 year ago
@1tabligh Hard to fathom but easy to understand. Is there room for a god in this scenerio? Yes. Absolutely! We are talking about INFINITY here. Is their a reason to believe that there IS a god just because there COULD be? For some, that is reason enough, no proof needed. For others, nope. It isn't necessary. Why make it so.
josephshawa 1 year ago
@1tabligh silly layout. Three posts in reverse
josephshawa 1 year ago
@josephshawa How can it be supposed that belief in the existence of God is the acceptance of contradiction, whereas belief in the uncaused nature of an effect such as matter is not contradictory?
1tabligh 1 year ago
@1tabligh Who said it was? That is simply closed minded thinking. But whether one NEEDS a god to explain existance is what is in question. I don 't. You do. It is all OK. Just different neuronal connections. Although, your line of thinking requires the preexistance of a god to allow creation to happen. I say, it all happened at once; with or without god.
josephshawa 1 year ago
@josephshawa How could it be believed that matter should itself be the origin of millions of attributes and characteristics and thus be the equivalent of the purposeful, wise and all-knowing Creator?
1tabligh 1 year ago
@1tabligh You must know infiinty. As for the wise and all knowing creator, you lost me. Remember that my nerons are different than yours and that is ok.
josephshawa 1 year ago
@josephshawa Is it at all possible that the cells of the body should learn their functions, pursue their aim in a precise and orderly fashion, and crystallize so miraculously in the world of being, without there being a conscious and powerful being to instruct them?
Is it not rather the case that phenomena such as these prove and demonstrate, with the utmost emphasis, the need for a plan, a design, a guiding hand inspired by conscious will?
1tabligh 1 year ago
@1tabligh If it makes you happy then BELIEVE IN A GOD! What is your problem. It is like you haven't read anything I've written or at least tried to understand. Typical of your type. I don't think, that while dealing with infinity, as we are, that anything is impossible including life and all of its variations. You seem to think otherwise. That is OKAY.
josephshawa 1 year ago
@1tabligh But you want to attribute the "miracle of life" to some other miracle called god. I don't. That is make believe in my mind because I have not an even tiny bit of evidence of it. Try to understand infinity a little and you migh get past your need for a miracle.
josephshawa 1 year ago
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@josephshawa What realistic scientist, sincerely given to seeking the truth could claim today that while a kidney transplant is the result of centuries of continuous scientific research and experimentation, the structure of the kidney itself reveals no trace of a creative intelligence and will, being the product of mere nature—nature which has no more knowledge or awareness than a kindergarten pupil?
1tabligh 1 year ago
@1tabligh
Cells crystallize? 7 years of Biomedical Sciences and this is a first to me, care to elude?
SSTTEEAALLTTHH 1 year ago
@SSTTEEAALLTTHH After years of careful planning and exhausting labor, biochemists have succeeded in discovering certain experimental organisms on a very simple and primitive level from which all trace of life is absent. This scientific triumph was regarded as very valuable and received with great enthusiasm in scientific circles, and nobody claimed that this highly deficient and primitive laboratory creation had come into being as the result of chance, without direction, planning and precision.
1tabligh 1 year ago
@1tabligh
"organisms on a very simple and primitive level from which all trace of life is absent" How can it be an organism if it isn't alive? How is it supposed to maintain homeostasis? Do you have any idea what you are talking about?
SSTTEEAALLTTHH 1 year ago
@SSTTEEAALLTTHH Is it not more logical to posit the existence of intelligence, will and planning in the creation of and ordering of the world than to attribute creativity to matter which lacks intelligence, thought, consciousness and the power to innovate?
1tabligh 1 year ago
@1tabligh
Is it not more logical to posit the existence of intelligence, will and planning in the creation of and ordering of the world than to attribute creativity to matter which lacks intelligence, thought, consciousness and the power to innovate?
No. Few things is more illogical then the giant bearded man in the sky who gives people souls and condemns and saves them. Few things are more illogical than after so may centuries still accepting the "god must have done it"-easy answer.
SSTTEEAALLTTHH 1 year ago