Ich bin ein zwar eingefleischter Metalhead aber Ode an die Freude ist so Zeitlos und so schön das ich mir die 9. Sinfonie von Beethoven immer wieder anhören könnte! Beethoven und die gesamte Klassische Musik wird die Zeit überdauen selbst nachdem wir unter der Erde liegen. :-)
Ich glaube Beethoven wäre entzückt wenn er wüsste, dass noch Heute seine Musik geliebt und gesungen wird... Es ist ganz schön ich mag dieses Lied sehr. Dennoch denke ich, das es hier bei dieser Version an Kraft fehlt .. aber schön ist es^^
@Moratorium Sinn des Liedes nicht verstanden, 6 setzen. Ist deine Meinung etwa, dass alle Menschen Brüder werden sollen, außer die, die nicht akzentfrei deutsch können???
@atzel62 I never said that something would be made good or bad by being discussed in a newspaper or not. I also said that democracy is the least worst form of government. It has fragilities and good points. Im not going to debate you any longer. You are clearly only out to misrepresent what I say, or you are not too intelligent. With your selective reading you think to find contradictions and you hardly talk about other arguments.
@atzel62 Who said I was afraid of anything? I have a bloody picture of the North Sea on my profile, isnt that enough hint that I live somewhere on that map?
I did say some unsavoury things about Lady Gaga, and rightly so, she is an arrogant, white trash bitch that makes the lowest possible commercialist trash that she dares to call art. So what of it?
@Aeythvaenn You kinda suggest it by putting it between the words arrogant and trash. If you actually said there was something wrong with white people I wouldn't have asked would i?
@An0niempje Well, let me return the question: i woulndt say that since i am white, would i? the ' suggestion is merely your own mind making things up. funny thing too is that you imply that your reasoning is correct while it is not
@Aeythvaenn No you wouldn´t, but there is no way to know for me that you are white yourself...
If you just say my reasoning is incorrect and you never wanted to imply that there´s something wrong with white people you remove all doubt, as long as you do not, it´s only logical that i believe it IS correct.
@atzel62 Democracy is the least worst type of government, a famous man once said. It is very fragile. And things are not as simplistic as you put them to be.
@atzel62 You make up straw man arguments continuously. I NEVER said that the anthem should be up for popular vote. I said that it was determined by a political elite. It was never discussed in all national parliaments like it should in representative democracy, not discussed in all the newspapers in the european community then. I also didnt say that people dont know what is good for them. The only thing i am saying is that when a majority thinks something it isnt necessarily good.
@atzel62 Im not contradicting myself, you are just not understanding the argument. Your simplistic argument is that if a majority thinks something is good, it is so. I am just giving a clear example of a majority of people NOT making a good decision. Meaning that whether something is good or bad does not depend on how many people believe something. A majority also used to believe that the earth was flat.
@atzel62 what are you talking about? Big Brother style? All im saying, and wich is the truth, is that it has been decided by the political elites, and i know what a representative democracy is but that doesnt mean that is was okay to decide what the anthem was by some ministers. Representative democracy is more than that, it includes debates in parliament by our representatives and debates in society and media. 47 yes and 2 no is hardly a representative sample. Your argument is ridiculous.
@atzel62 And thirdly: What do you mean about me saying stuff about lady gaga? I just used her to prove that if someone sells a lot of records, that person doenst necesarily have a lot of quality. I do buy proper classical records (not andre rieu of course). Dont lecture me about democracy, I study political science at the university and I live in Europe too. So I probably know a bit more about democracy than the average person just as a baker knows more about bread than others.
@atzel62 Second of all: Because a majorit of the people want something does not make it 'Good'. You as a German should know that all too well. Adolf Hitler was also elected democratically and he sure was not 'Good'. Sorry I had to bring that up again but that was the most obvious at the moment. I did not imply that I do know what is 'Good', I just said that might does not make right, to put it that way. (might as in democratic majority)
@atzel62 Don't be pompous about it mister, because you have no right to. First of all, there was nothing democratic about selecting the anthem, it was done by the political elites in 1971 and again 1985, I bet there was hardly any debate about it in any European country nor was it part of an election programme by any political party. So your 'will of the people' argument goes into the trash bin.
@donniededondon If you know the real version you will know that a lot of richness and depth has been removed from this piece, to denie that is simply to be blind, with all due respect. And what you further say is a fallacy, just because a lot of people like it, doesn't mean it is good to whatever degree. I hear Lady Gaga or whatever that whore is called sells a lot of records too. I have nothing to add to the argument.
@donniededondon He has taken away sooo much from the piece, he has robbed the piece from its richness, its depth etc. he (over)simplified and lowered this piece of art to a level that a broad public might find it nice to listen. And that is exactly the problem. And by the way, I never said that he thinks he is king of the world so what is your point in that reaction to me?
@mmaybrown dude u kidding me? Holland is proud of him!! He gives classic music life again. AND he is NOT making big dollars. he explained in an interview that some of the concerts he gives, he pays for it himself just so people can listen to his music. He doesnt do this for the money lol, just cause he likes to play music. Hes admirable not unprofessional.
@fdkgegkenked I was being sarcastic towards nichris5566! He isn't unprofressional, he is one of the greatest professional and ambassadors of classical music. However he does make a lot of money, If he wasn't he wouldn't be playing a stradivarious or have a castle as an office. Another, he certainly could not afford to fly his orchestra around the world if he was just making ends meet! Lastly, anyone can say what they want in an interview, doesn't make it true. Take care
@mmaybrown ha lol if you put it that way ^ ^. But he does make a lot of money but also spend it just cause he wants to play his music. Of course hes not poor or something i was just saying that this guy just loves to make music and nothing more... there should be more ppl with that talent and that mentality lol.
dit lied is gwn het europese volkslied hahaha
dutchman139 1 month ago
hier spat gewoon vuurwerk vanaf zo mooi is het
kik6556 3 months ago
Alle Menschen SOLLTEN Brüder werden !
YaakovSarafian 6 months ago in playlist Classical
Ich bin ein zwar eingefleischter Metalhead aber Ode an die Freude ist so Zeitlos und so schön das ich mir die 9. Sinfonie von Beethoven immer wieder anhören könnte! Beethoven und die gesamte Klassische Musik wird die Zeit überdauen selbst nachdem wir unter der Erde liegen. :-)
`m´ to Beethoven
StorrderHobbit 6 months ago
geil bin echt einsam zur zeit wo ist mein fantasie kerl
GaylaPhoebenq182 6 months ago
@GaylaPhoebenq182 der hat sich aufgehangen
chitzo007 6 months ago
Unser kleiner Europa denkt die grössten gedanken!
SimonRaahauge1973 7 months ago
Ein bisschen zu schnell...
UnsignedVoid32 7 months ago
Certo che questo Rieu di musica non capisce un cazzo, ma di parrucchieri se ne intende parecchio, scommetto anche che scopa come un cammello ...
RinoDoctor 8 months ago
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Orsten78 8 months ago
karajan was born to conduct beethoven. no one is better than karajan when it comes to beethoven but this is quite nice.
Darthmonk3y 9 months ago
Ich glaube Beethoven wäre entzückt wenn er wüsste, dass noch Heute seine Musik geliebt und gesungen wird... Es ist ganz schön ich mag dieses Lied sehr. Dennoch denke ich, das es hier bei dieser Version an Kraft fehlt .. aber schön ist es^^
SakuraHanada 9 months ago
Beethoven würde sich im Grabe umdrehen!!!!
equinoxebln 9 months ago
odd!
markgromala2 11 months ago
compear it with an Karajan version and shut up
steelhandZH 1 year ago
Deutsche haben das zu singen, keine Menschen mit Akzent.
Moratorium 1 year ago
@Moratorium Het wordt in Maastricht gespeeld, nog altijd geen Duitstalige stad waar mensen geen onderscheid horen tussen accenten in het Duits.
Als je geen accenten wil horen moet je maar naar een Duitser kijken en niet naar Andre Rieu, een NEDERLANDER.
xAjaciedx95 1 year ago
@xAjaciedx95 Dat ik niet kon schelen.
Moratorium 1 year ago
@Moratorium Sinn des Liedes nicht verstanden, 6 setzen. Ist deine Meinung etwa, dass alle Menschen Brüder werden sollen, außer die, die nicht akzentfrei deutsch können???
Es geht um ALLE MENSCHEN, nicht nur um Deutsche!
Schäm Dich!!!
hagenberlin 4 months ago
tip- i would never conduct with a instrument in my hand cause some time conductors get SO into the music u never know whats gonna happen
brainblast4207 1 year ago
This is the biggest insult to Beethoven
steelhandZH 1 year ago
@steelhandZH Insult to Beethoven??? I bet he would be swelling with pride.
LaserBeam002 1 year ago
@steelhandZH why¿¿¿
they are really good musicians.
and have you at least see the DVD¿¿¿
albipe18 1 year ago
@steelhandZH stop trolling
Maaarteh 11 months ago
<3 Braviiiiii Many Thanxoxoxo to You 2010 H22 for sharing amazing time & <3 und Good-Bye!!! Happy New Year to alle Brüder, Schwestern, Freunde☆ <3
AphroditeEros33 1 year ago
@atzel62 learn to read correctly it is utterly untrue
Aeythvaenn 1 year ago
@atzel62 I never said that something would be made good or bad by being discussed in a newspaper or not. I also said that democracy is the least worst form of government. It has fragilities and good points. Im not going to debate you any longer. You are clearly only out to misrepresent what I say, or you are not too intelligent. With your selective reading you think to find contradictions and you hardly talk about other arguments.
Aeythvaenn 1 year ago
@atzel62 That is utter bullshit. Your anti intellectualism is showing.
Aeythvaenn 1 year ago
@atzel62 Who said I was afraid of anything? I have a bloody picture of the North Sea on my profile, isnt that enough hint that I live somewhere on that map?
I did say some unsavoury things about Lady Gaga, and rightly so, she is an arrogant, white trash bitch that makes the lowest possible commercialist trash that she dares to call art. So what of it?
Aeythvaenn 1 year ago
@Aeythvaenn What is wrong with being white???
An0niempje 1 year ago
@An0niempje I never said that there was anything wrong with being white. If you respond to comments, take at least the effort to read it correctly.
Aeythvaenn 1 year ago
@Aeythvaenn You kinda suggest it by putting it between the words arrogant and trash. If you actually said there was something wrong with white people I wouldn't have asked would i?
An0niempje 1 year ago
@An0niempje Well, let me return the question: i woulndt say that since i am white, would i? the ' suggestion is merely your own mind making things up. funny thing too is that you imply that your reasoning is correct while it is not
Aeythvaenn 1 year ago
@Aeythvaenn No you wouldn´t, but there is no way to know for me that you are white yourself...
If you just say my reasoning is incorrect and you never wanted to imply that there´s something wrong with white people you remove all doubt, as long as you do not, it´s only logical that i believe it IS correct.
An0niempje 1 year ago
@atzel62 Democracy is the least worst type of government, a famous man once said. It is very fragile. And things are not as simplistic as you put them to be.
Aeythvaenn 1 year ago
@atzel62 You make up straw man arguments continuously. I NEVER said that the anthem should be up for popular vote. I said that it was determined by a political elite. It was never discussed in all national parliaments like it should in representative democracy, not discussed in all the newspapers in the european community then. I also didnt say that people dont know what is good for them. The only thing i am saying is that when a majority thinks something it isnt necessarily good.
Aeythvaenn 1 year ago
@atzel62 Im not contradicting myself, you are just not understanding the argument. Your simplistic argument is that if a majority thinks something is good, it is so. I am just giving a clear example of a majority of people NOT making a good decision. Meaning that whether something is good or bad does not depend on how many people believe something. A majority also used to believe that the earth was flat.
Aeythvaenn 1 year ago
@atzel62 what are you talking about? Big Brother style? All im saying, and wich is the truth, is that it has been decided by the political elites, and i know what a representative democracy is but that doesnt mean that is was okay to decide what the anthem was by some ministers. Representative democracy is more than that, it includes debates in parliament by our representatives and debates in society and media. 47 yes and 2 no is hardly a representative sample. Your argument is ridiculous.
Aeythvaenn 1 year ago
@atzel62 Oh, and if you are ready to go beyond the Disney version view the real one: /watch?v=OKFLs3f3Nag&feature=related
Aeythvaenn 1 year ago
@atzel62 And thirdly: What do you mean about me saying stuff about lady gaga? I just used her to prove that if someone sells a lot of records, that person doenst necesarily have a lot of quality. I do buy proper classical records (not andre rieu of course). Dont lecture me about democracy, I study political science at the university and I live in Europe too. So I probably know a bit more about democracy than the average person just as a baker knows more about bread than others.
Aeythvaenn 1 year ago
@atzel62 Second of all: Because a majorit of the people want something does not make it 'Good'. You as a German should know that all too well. Adolf Hitler was also elected democratically and he sure was not 'Good'. Sorry I had to bring that up again but that was the most obvious at the moment. I did not imply that I do know what is 'Good', I just said that might does not make right, to put it that way. (might as in democratic majority)
Aeythvaenn 1 year ago
@atzel62 Don't be pompous about it mister, because you have no right to. First of all, there was nothing democratic about selecting the anthem, it was done by the political elites in 1971 and again 1985, I bet there was hardly any debate about it in any European country nor was it part of an election programme by any political party. So your 'will of the people' argument goes into the trash bin.
Aeythvaenn 1 year ago
beethoven und schiller schauen von oben und lachen zusammen in ewiger glückseeligkeit das haben die sich verdient
polarkreis201 1 year ago
auf ein geinigtes europa ^^
mmomel 1 year ago 7
@donniededondon If you know the real version you will know that a lot of richness and depth has been removed from this piece, to denie that is simply to be blind, with all due respect. And what you further say is a fallacy, just because a lot of people like it, doesn't mean it is good to whatever degree. I hear Lady Gaga or whatever that whore is called sells a lot of records too. I have nothing to add to the argument.
Aeythvaenn 1 year ago
@donniededondon He has taken away sooo much from the piece, he has robbed the piece from its richness, its depth etc. he (over)simplified and lowered this piece of art to a level that a broad public might find it nice to listen. And that is exactly the problem. And by the way, I never said that he thinks he is king of the world so what is your point in that reaction to me?
Aeythvaenn 1 year ago
hätte schiller das geahnt hätte er vermutlich zu lebzeiten noch mehr gesoffen -.-
lennusz 1 year ago
THATS IT; PERFORMED AND NEW IDEAS!
TENLAY TENORS TORSTEN SCHAEPAN
TORSTENSCHAEPAN 1 year ago
Haha unglaublich... die ganz linke... ist meine Ex-
Leck mich am Schnürsenkel !!!
7seyno 1 year ago
This is like the MacDonalds version of Ode an die Freude!
Aeythvaenn 1 year ago
is this arranged by andre?
PLANOWESTWOLF 1 year ago
@PLANOWESTWOLF
Yes. quite a wonderful take on it!
CroweDharma 1 year ago
Wonderfull !!!
king1608 1 year ago
Marvelous...! So much power in such a song.....
Excalibur322 1 year ago
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is it originally done by them?/
ya2mar 1 year ago
@ya2mar Oh no, it's Beethoven's, from the symphony "Ode to Joy"..
heyforlife 1 year ago
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ya2mar 1 year ago
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So unprofessional...
Holding a volin and conduct at the same time...
Where's his baton??
He's conducting an orchestra not only choir!!
nichris5566 2 years ago
@nichris5566 So unprofessional, but he's making the big dollars though!
mmaybrown 1 year ago
@mmaybrown dude u kidding me? Holland is proud of him!! He gives classic music life again. AND he is NOT making big dollars. he explained in an interview that some of the concerts he gives, he pays for it himself just so people can listen to his music. He doesnt do this for the money lol, just cause he likes to play music. Hes admirable not unprofessional.
fdkgegkenked 1 year ago
@fdkgegkenked I was being sarcastic towards nichris5566! He isn't unprofressional, he is one of the greatest professional and ambassadors of classical music. However he does make a lot of money, If he wasn't he wouldn't be playing a stradivarious or have a castle as an office. Another, he certainly could not afford to fly his orchestra around the world if he was just making ends meet! Lastly, anyone can say what they want in an interview, doesn't make it true. Take care
mmaybrown 1 year ago
@mmaybrown ha lol if you put it that way ^ ^. But he does make a lot of money but also spend it just cause he wants to play his music. Of course hes not poor or something i was just saying that this guy just loves to make music and nothing more... there should be more ppl with that talent and that mentality lol.
fdkgegkenked 1 year ago
@fdkgegkenked Speak for yourself and not the whole nation. Many people have this hybris or do you just use it as a rethorical tool?
Aeythvaenn 1 year ago
Freude schöner Götterfunken... Bedankt, my Dutch neighbour, for a great Youtube evening that I spent on your channel..
Tot ziens
Bea
Honeybea264 2 years ago 17