Great video. I think the problem with trying to change society at the moment, at least through the traditional means of activism, is that less educated parts of society, the people that have had less oppurtunity to learn through inequality and poverty do not have the patience and understanding to watch videos like this, or get interested in these topics. These people are no less intelligent but videos and information needs to easier to grasp and understand for everyone, if we are to see change.
For Instance, if you are thinking about doing or saying something to someone first ask yourself "Would I want them to do that to me?" If the answer is NO then you probably shouldn't do it. It's as simple as just growing the fuck up.
your voice sounds so mono toned and uninterested. Maybe, If you want people to be interested in this information, you should at least sounds like you really want this change to happen. You sound like a brainwashed zombie. Also, what's with all the big words? Can't people use "normal" and smaller words to explain something? Really I think this entire video can be summed up into that old saying "Treat people the way you want them to treat you". It's really as simple as that. continued...
i'm glad i watch this, but i'm still more interested in the victims; still i maintain the believe the idea that meditation can change the minds of those who practice it. If an individual meditates enough they will reach a conclusion themselves and thus change for the better.
Punishment doesn't work, never the less the public must be protected from those who can't tell the difference between right and wrong; meditation is therapy and those who practice it find love.
Since there is in actuality one consciousness, and you have the power to manipulate that consciousness, can't you say you have all the power in the world? If this is true, we all have the power to make the world whatever we want. The ego keeps pushing the wants and the bigger the ego, the more shitty you make the world. So, lets everyone cut down on the ego feeding/protecting, thanks.
@StupidJellyfish You are a fool. "Propaganda" is just an ugly word for conditioning.
And EVERYTHING is conditioning. You can't escape it. The only question is, what are you being conditioned by?
The Zeitgeist Movement is conditioning/educating people with values that would actually WORK for this planet and society, rather than the immature and dysfunctional values that most of us were "propagandized" with from childhood.
Most people would not agree with James Gilligan about this, but he's done his homework, and i believe him, and most importantly, i understand that no one is hopeless, there's a scientific causality here.
The problem with society today is that we always tend to look for the easy answers, and there aren't any i'm afraid. We reinforce revenge, infidelity, rage, punishment and individualism everyday in our movies, schools and pretty much anywhere, i mean, what else did we expect, peace?? LOL
Wow. Thanks for taking the time to address this issue so powerfully. This is timely and pertinent. I encourage you get this to people who might be able to affect a change, especially in the prison system.
y'see here's a problem... we identify violent individuals after the fact, after they do the violence... then we 'punish' them because our own emotions demand this as a debt to society.
If we were clever about this we wouldn't be giving prisoners the free ride of simple incarceration we'd make them work for their freedom by contributing to society... If we were clever about this we would learn how, why and when they are violent...
but we don't, we'd rather waste our own resources.
i agree, mostly, but i wanna mention that 'simple incarceration' today is anything but a 'free ride'. it's torture. mostly mental and occasionally physical as well.
if we want people to get better, we have to stop torturing them. if we want to find out the how, why, and when, as you put it, we have to stop torturing them (for our own selfish retribution).
providing them with work to do is a good idea. as long as they aren't forced to 'work for their freedom' or something.
@saydaysago2008 Well 'forced to work for their freedom' could quickly become subjective if I phrased it differently... how about sentenced to 10 years with time off for good behavior in the form of productive work!
Now all of a sudden they have to work for their freedom...but its somehow more palatable!
I'd make a call on the quantity of 'good' someone must put into society to overcome or replace the damage they done... in the case of murder that might be impossible...ie a life sentence.
@MumblingMickey People should only be held as long as they are still dangerous. Incarceration should include a variety of activities/work they can take part in, or not, of their own volition. They should be given as much sense of control over their own life as possible while now allowing them to harm others.
Any idea of repaying a debt to society is silly in light of the fact that these people are all victims themselves. If they owe a debt to society, society owes the same debt back to them.
@saydaysago2008 Yes interesting... now what about the actual debt they owe society...is that just forgiven?
In the case of murder as far as I see that requires whatever cure, but also all the tax that individual might have paid the state...and all the income they might have served for their family...not to mention the mental anguish....and even the cost of incarceration. Plus the cost of whatever tax the criminal might pay!
@MumblingMickey Sorry, I was thinking that you were speaking in terms of social debt, not the monetary costs involved. I don't see how these types of problems can ever be solved within a monetary-market system, so I tend not to think of them in terms of monetary cost.
However, still, I can't seem to find it right that anyone should be liable, given, again, that criminals are victims of culture/circumstance.
I don't know how to answer this within the context of our current economic system.
I think the one issue we're sticking on here is the idea of 'debt'. I don't think you really took in what I meant when I said " I don't see how these types of problems can ever be solved within a monetary-market system".
Much of the shame, guilt, and anger associated with violent crimes has to do with social status, which largely has to do with money. I'm interested in alternative economic frameworks that are not based on money, barter, or trade of any kind, but rather (1/2)
I'm not suggesting someone in prison with no access to money could pay in currency to correct the wrongs they commited . That would be impossible in the case of murder anyway..
And when I refer to 'debt' I am refering not just to monetary debt... but rather indebtedness...
There is also a severe stuctural and instinctive probelm with your world of no money idea. I'm not objecting to the premise but wonder sure if you considered all the implications.
Again, I can't feel that it's proper to impose 'indebtedness' on an offending person, when in order to offend violently, a person must first be stripped of trust, support, everything that one needs in order to be healthy, mentally.
I would never say that a cancer patient owes society a debt because their treatment is costing us resources and time.
@MumblingMickey sorry, 1 more thing.. of course there is the possibility of some implications of the economic reforms I propose, but I think I've considered far more than you might expect.
If you wanna talk economics though, I still enourage you to msg me (or e-mail.. aaron at theinfinityes . com). I can't stand prolonged communication on these comment threads.
In this light, I don't consider it right that you have to pay if you need help (as you mentioned), I don't find it right that victims need to pay when they become victimizers, and I don't find ti right that one should have to 'pay' for food, water, energy, or anything else that is a basic human need.
We have the technology to provide human's with all of these things without requiring labour (and hence, money).
@saydaysago2008 The idea that goods, services etc. should be made available to the world is clear. Now we have a system for their transfer... it is certainly not working at optimum I'll grant you that. Coming up to the Y2k bubble I found myself in London being paid up to £500 a day to fix problems that didn't even exist. Thats more than we reward a brain surgeon, more than we reward a farmer, more than we reward any number of scientists, engineers or philosophers.
@MumblingMickey Right. In the kind of scenario I describe, people wouldn't need money to start projects, and people would particiapte in project only of their own volition, not for money.
Also, if I wasn't clear, I'm suggesting that there be no medium of exchange, not a different one.
As for reward, money actually isn't as effective as we think. People's internal desire to achieve is far more powerful. See Dan Pinks work.
Sorry for abrupt answers. msg me if you'd like (chrcter limit)
What would happen if somethgin HAS to be done, but nobody wants to do it?
Lets say the sewers just have to be cleaned... at the moment nobody wants to do that of their own volition... We get people to do that by offering them lots of money.
Where does your system account for boring, dangerous, undesirable tasks that simply have to be done?
@saydaysago2008 I don't see people holding up a store to feed their family as people in need of a cure.. and I certainly don't see people that don't need to in need of a cure either.
But I do see that they owe society a debt. Yet instead we are paying to incarcerate people at huge cost. We get robbed by them, punished by them...and then punished again by society locking them up!
We should turn our back totally on punishment and go for repayment. That can be done without need to punish anyone.
@MumblingMickey No people holding up a store are not in need of a cure, what needs to be cured are the social conditions that cause him to hold up the store (lack of available food). That's not a violent act in and of itself, and would not be considered as a mental problem.
Punishment / Repayment I touched on in my other comment. :)
@saydaysago2008 I have no issue with prisoners who commited a violent act during a crime...or where the violent act WAS the crime being treated for anger amangement or whatever.
But on top of that help they are still required to pay a debt to society.. Plus I'd work out some way of them paying for that help..
I don't see why I should be asked to fork out yet more money for someone elses psychological problems when if I need such help I'd have to payy $100 an hour for it!
@cipihevent I think after the fact you cannot blame society for the personal decisions of an individual. The whole act of forming societies of people, of civilization itself is based on the idea that those who damage it are ostracized from it. But modern civilization is so large now we can't do that any more.
there might be a case for it though! Plopping our repeat offenders onto a desert island in the pacific and just leaving them there! Literally wash our hands of them.
Amazing vid! You always make such great vids. I really needed to watch this after this thing we call Valentine's day what with my mind being starved on love. A lot of violent thoughts were going through my mind earlier today but they've dissolved for now.
J. Krishnamurti was a very deep and spiritual man. That desire for love in every human being and the attachment to spirituality is the way many have chosen to find that love, purpose, and awareness of self. This is the same thing that you are talking about here, only the Zeitgeist Movement has unfortunately chosen to stratify itself by pitting the believers and unbelievers as opposing views; once again creating division instead of inclusion. Certainly no fault of yours. Great video, btw.
@KindaGamey Except that the Zeitgeist Movement does not say that believing is bad, they say that BLIND faith is harmful, especially in the current proselytizing followers for money. They actually want the philosophy and intentions behind religion put into practice, things like do not kill, do not steal, love your neighbor and so on. Jacques Fresco even said something along the lines of "these are great ideas, when are they going to be put into practice".The current implementation is at fault.
I went to a school where the teachers beat the shit out of the kids and also used humiliation tactics. The only thing it does is make abuse and dysfunction a part of your everyday life and it teaches you how to psychologically cope, or bring out negative tendencies.
There was a national park with elephants in it that were going nuts, becoming extremely violent and even raping rhinos. This was due to a breakdown in social cohesion that seemed to be the result of stress, habitat loss and so on.
@Neanderthalcouzin haha you peaked my interest. and as i i typed "elephants raping rhinos" into google, i felt the beauty of the human quest for knowledge.
seriously, though, found a lengthy new york times article though it seems to be more about elephants in the wild rather than national parks. haven't read through it yet. you got any links i could check out on this?
@saydaysago2008 I love your work! Your vid is now on my menu for reference when I need to address negativity in people's attitudes about ZM. Thanks dude.
Btw, one thing theyve done in African countries hit by civil war is in some cases, i.e. Sierra Leone, they took people who were perpetrators or victims of severe violence, etc, and they did a kind of community ritual to *resurrect* them so to speak.
Btw, one thing theyve done in African countries hit by civil war is in some cases, i.e. Sierra Leone, they took people who were perpetrators or victims of severe violence, etc, and they did a kind of community ritual to *resurrect* them so to speak.
@conceitarturo i think it needs to be a societal effort. sometimes the burden of a sick, violent person is too much for one person to bear. this is why we need a more understanding and nurturing community aspect in this effort.
@saydaysago2008 I just cant help but look at my life and see that I easily give up on people not that abnormal at all :p But I completely agree about the need for a societal effort against violence, to cut off the endless chain instead of perpetrating it on and on...I wish this were obvious to everyone, and I think you did a great job of exposing this idea, thank you!
Great video. I think the problem with trying to change society at the moment, at least through the traditional means of activism, is that less educated parts of society, the people that have had less oppurtunity to learn through inequality and poverty do not have the patience and understanding to watch videos like this, or get interested in these topics. These people are no less intelligent but videos and information needs to easier to grasp and understand for everyone, if we are to see change.
GlennLSmith 1 day ago
Amazing work.
Josephjoel3 2 days ago
For Instance, if you are thinking about doing or saying something to someone first ask yourself "Would I want them to do that to me?" If the answer is NO then you probably shouldn't do it. It's as simple as just growing the fuck up.
CauseOfDeath27 4 days ago
your voice sounds so mono toned and uninterested. Maybe, If you want people to be interested in this information, you should at least sounds like you really want this change to happen. You sound like a brainwashed zombie. Also, what's with all the big words? Can't people use "normal" and smaller words to explain something? Really I think this entire video can be summed up into that old saying "Treat people the way you want them to treat you". It's really as simple as that. continued...
CauseOfDeath27 4 days ago
i'm glad i watch this, but i'm still more interested in the victims; still i maintain the believe the idea that meditation can change the minds of those who practice it. If an individual meditates enough they will reach a conclusion themselves and thus change for the better.
Punishment doesn't work, never the less the public must be protected from those who can't tell the difference between right and wrong; meditation is therapy and those who practice it find love.
Dreamazium 5 days ago
makes me sad to see only 4,255 views...... EVERYONE needs to see this
mygoodshitzzz 5 days ago
the zeitgeist movement buddy. let's go already and move forward.
questionsleadtotruth 5 days ago
That little boy in the room, crying alone at 3:10...
That's me.
DarkMoonDroid 5 days ago
@DarkMoonDroid - hope you're feeling better today!
aadezign 19 hours ago
Excellent video, beautifully presented and engineered. I applaud you and your efforts for social change I can really get behind.
DeludedMythos 6 days ago
very well presented video
Headcase1591 6 days ago
Excellent! I am spreading it around.
Okoth45 1 week ago
Excellent 'wish' quote at the end.
petepassion 1 week ago 2
This is a very well informed video!
concrete182 1 week ago
Since there is in actuality one consciousness, and you have the power to manipulate that consciousness, can't you say you have all the power in the world? If this is true, we all have the power to make the world whatever we want. The ego keeps pushing the wants and the bigger the ego, the more shitty you make the world. So, lets everyone cut down on the ego feeding/protecting, thanks.
CntthnkO15 1 week ago 4
Fantastic video, thank you.
KingBonacci 1 week ago
this is why we all need to do more drugs (the good kind) DMT, mushrooms, LSD, peyote etc...
mink33 1 week ago
This is a very powerful and beautiful video. Thanks for sharing.
Starbat88 1 week ago
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Once Zeitgeist popped-up, this ruined itself by being propaganda.
StupidJellyfish 1 week ago
@StupidJellyfish You are a fool. "Propaganda" is just an ugly word for conditioning.
And EVERYTHING is conditioning. You can't escape it. The only question is, what are you being conditioned by?
The Zeitgeist Movement is conditioning/educating people with values that would actually WORK for this planet and society, rather than the immature and dysfunctional values that most of us were "propagandized" with from childhood.
Starbat88 1 week ago 19
wow this is awesome. good information !
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Most people would not agree with James Gilligan about this, but he's done his homework, and i believe him, and most importantly, i understand that no one is hopeless, there's a scientific causality here.
The problem with society today is that we always tend to look for the easy answers, and there aren't any i'm afraid. We reinforce revenge, infidelity, rage, punishment and individualism everyday in our movies, schools and pretty much anywhere, i mean, what else did we expect, peace?? LOL
TheDarkFenix 1 week ago
To change to a non violent principal will be a multi generation process, by the time we reached that level mankind will be near extinction.
Aizacc84 1 week ago
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But can't we multitask?
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TheDarkFenix 1 week ago
This is a beautiful video, thanks a lot for the effort you put into it.
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Deviliumrei 2 months ago
I watch this too, every other day. It really gives me hope. So thank you.
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qita0 3 months ago
I watch this video often. It helps in the quest of becoming a violence free human being.
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qita0 5 months ago
really love this video, thanks bro ,much love
michael0001able 7 months ago
Wow. Thanks for taking the time to address this issue so powerfully. This is timely and pertinent. I encourage you get this to people who might be able to affect a change, especially in the prison system.
meaboutthis 8 months ago
@sadaysago2008 Thank you. As usual you put together awesome work.
MDKKnD 8 months ago
y'see here's a problem... we identify violent individuals after the fact, after they do the violence... then we 'punish' them because our own emotions demand this as a debt to society.
If we were clever about this we wouldn't be giving prisoners the free ride of simple incarceration we'd make them work for their freedom by contributing to society... If we were clever about this we would learn how, why and when they are violent...
but we don't, we'd rather waste our own resources.
MumblingMickey 8 months ago 2
@MumblingMickey
i agree, mostly, but i wanna mention that 'simple incarceration' today is anything but a 'free ride'. it's torture. mostly mental and occasionally physical as well.
if we want people to get better, we have to stop torturing them. if we want to find out the how, why, and when, as you put it, we have to stop torturing them (for our own selfish retribution).
providing them with work to do is a good idea. as long as they aren't forced to 'work for their freedom' or something.
saydaysago2008 8 months ago
@saydaysago2008 Well 'forced to work for their freedom' could quickly become subjective if I phrased it differently... how about sentenced to 10 years with time off for good behavior in the form of productive work!
Now all of a sudden they have to work for their freedom...but its somehow more palatable!
I'd make a call on the quantity of 'good' someone must put into society to overcome or replace the damage they done... in the case of murder that might be impossible...ie a life sentence.
MumblingMickey 8 months ago
@MumblingMickey People should only be held as long as they are still dangerous. Incarceration should include a variety of activities/work they can take part in, or not, of their own volition. They should be given as much sense of control over their own life as possible while now allowing them to harm others.
Any idea of repaying a debt to society is silly in light of the fact that these people are all victims themselves. If they owe a debt to society, society owes the same debt back to them.
saydaysago2008 8 months ago
@saydaysago2008 Yes interesting... now what about the actual debt they owe society...is that just forgiven?
In the case of murder as far as I see that requires whatever cure, but also all the tax that individual might have paid the state...and all the income they might have served for their family...not to mention the mental anguish....and even the cost of incarceration. Plus the cost of whatever tax the criminal might pay!
This all adds up.. and I'm not liable, are you?
MumblingMickey 8 months ago
@MumblingMickey Sorry, I was thinking that you were speaking in terms of social debt, not the monetary costs involved. I don't see how these types of problems can ever be solved within a monetary-market system, so I tend not to think of them in terms of monetary cost.
However, still, I can't seem to find it right that anyone should be liable, given, again, that criminals are victims of culture/circumstance.
I don't know how to answer this within the context of our current economic system.
saydaysago2008 8 months ago
@saydaysago2008 Yes I'm sure the we as a society of victims are also resonsible.
I grew up in one of the worst inner city hells in north Dublin.One of the worst places to live in Europe. That time coincided with my youth.
But that did not stop me from getting a phd in physics and starting up two successful businesses.
The violence is literally a survival instinct. But anyone costing society harm, monetary or otherwise also inherits a debt! I just want that repayed!
MumblingMickey 8 months ago
@MumblingMickey
I think the one issue we're sticking on here is the idea of 'debt'. I don't think you really took in what I meant when I said " I don't see how these types of problems can ever be solved within a monetary-market system".
Much of the shame, guilt, and anger associated with violent crimes has to do with social status, which largely has to do with money. I'm interested in alternative economic frameworks that are not based on money, barter, or trade of any kind, but rather (1/2)
saydaysago2008 8 months ago
@saydaysago2008
I'm not suggesting someone in prison with no access to money could pay in currency to correct the wrongs they commited . That would be impossible in the case of murder anyway..
And when I refer to 'debt' I am refering not just to monetary debt... but rather indebtedness...
There is also a severe stuctural and instinctive probelm with your world of no money idea. I'm not objecting to the premise but wonder sure if you considered all the implications.
MumblingMickey 8 months ago
@MumblingMickey
Again, I can't feel that it's proper to impose 'indebtedness' on an offending person, when in order to offend violently, a person must first be stripped of trust, support, everything that one needs in order to be healthy, mentally.
I would never say that a cancer patient owes society a debt because their treatment is costing us resources and time.
saydaysago2008 8 months ago
@MumblingMickey sorry, 1 more thing.. of course there is the possibility of some implications of the economic reforms I propose, but I think I've considered far more than you might expect.
If you wanna talk economics though, I still enourage you to msg me (or e-mail.. aaron at theinfinityes . com). I can't stand prolonged communication on these comment threads.
saydaysago2008 8 months ago
@MumblingMickey (2/2)
global access to goods and services.
In this light, I don't consider it right that you have to pay if you need help (as you mentioned), I don't find it right that victims need to pay when they become victimizers, and I don't find ti right that one should have to 'pay' for food, water, energy, or anything else that is a basic human need.
We have the technology to provide human's with all of these things without requiring labour (and hence, money).
saydaysago2008 8 months ago
@saydaysago2008 The idea that goods, services etc. should be made available to the world is clear. Now we have a system for their transfer... it is certainly not working at optimum I'll grant you that. Coming up to the Y2k bubble I found myself in London being paid up to £500 a day to fix problems that didn't even exist. Thats more than we reward a brain surgeon, more than we reward a farmer, more than we reward any number of scientists, engineers or philosophers.
see 2/2
MumblingMickey 8 months ago
CONt. 2/2
Now of course that might seem unfair, but hey it was a bank paying for the contract.
However when I arrived home I set up a business, fed my family, hired staff.
If my services had been totally free 5 people would not have a job now that they really enjoy and have a stake in!
The question remains. Is 'money' as a concept the ONLY reward that fits the bill as mechanism of exchange?
And you know what? I just can't see another one! Not without massive abuse by people.
MumblingMickey 8 months ago
@MumblingMickey Right. In the kind of scenario I describe, people wouldn't need money to start projects, and people would particiapte in project only of their own volition, not for money.
Also, if I wasn't clear, I'm suggesting that there be no medium of exchange, not a different one.
As for reward, money actually isn't as effective as we think. People's internal desire to achieve is far more powerful. See Dan Pinks work.
Sorry for abrupt answers. msg me if you'd like (chrcter limit)
saydaysago2008 8 months ago
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@saydaysago2008
What would happen if somethgin HAS to be done, but nobody wants to do it?
Lets say the sewers just have to be cleaned... at the moment nobody wants to do that of their own volition... We get people to do that by offering them lots of money.
Where does your system account for boring, dangerous, undesirable tasks that simply have to be done?
MumblingMickey 6 days ago
@MumblingMickey Remember, if we truly want to help society, the intent needs to be to cure these people, not punish them.
Punishment is the opposite of the cure, it is, as James Gilligan says in this video, the most powerful stimulant of violence we've discovered yet.
saydaysago2008 8 months ago
@saydaysago2008 I don't see people holding up a store to feed their family as people in need of a cure.. and I certainly don't see people that don't need to in need of a cure either.
But I do see that they owe society a debt. Yet instead we are paying to incarcerate people at huge cost. We get robbed by them, punished by them...and then punished again by society locking them up!
We should turn our back totally on punishment and go for repayment. That can be done without need to punish anyone.
MumblingMickey 8 months ago
@MumblingMickey No people holding up a store are not in need of a cure, what needs to be cured are the social conditions that cause him to hold up the store (lack of available food). That's not a violent act in and of itself, and would not be considered as a mental problem.
Punishment / Repayment I touched on in my other comment. :)
saydaysago2008 8 months ago
@saydaysago2008 I have no issue with prisoners who commited a violent act during a crime...or where the violent act WAS the crime being treated for anger amangement or whatever.
But on top of that help they are still required to pay a debt to society.. Plus I'd work out some way of them paying for that help..
I don't see why I should be asked to fork out yet more money for someone elses psychological problems when if I need such help I'd have to payy $100 an hour for it!
MumblingMickey 8 months ago
@MumblingMickey a criminal doesn't owe anything to society, it is society responsibility to grow up good citizens.
cipihevent 1 week ago
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@cipihevent I think after the fact you cannot blame society for the personal decisions of an individual. The whole act of forming societies of people, of civilization itself is based on the idea that those who damage it are ostracized from it. But modern civilization is so large now we can't do that any more.
there might be a case for it though! Plopping our repeat offenders onto a desert island in the pacific and just leaving them there! Literally wash our hands of them.
MumblingMickey 6 days ago
You make great videos my friend. Well done!
TaoFAQ 9 months ago
This is an awesome video, thank you!
qita0 9 months ago
awesome video brother, keep up the good work :)
DRZCHOZEN1931 9 months ago
This opened my eyes a little more
420LowKey 10 months ago
again, excellent work aaron!
strawprophet 1 year ago
thanks for making this video
e3axordos 1 year ago 2
Amazing vid! You always make such great vids. I really needed to watch this after this thing we call Valentine's day what with my mind being starved on love. A lot of violent thoughts were going through my mind earlier today but they've dissolved for now.
VolcanicPenguin 1 year ago
Great work guys. Viva la movemiento
Iamthenoi 1 year ago
thanks for posting ...Governments and Religions are the most violent institutions in society
kanoabiondolillo 1 year ago
thanks for posting
kanoabiondolillo 1 year ago
i see myself in this video
pidromonz 1 year ago 17
@pidromonz you speak monotone too?
TheEffinBongShow 1 day ago
Great Video... Thanks!
zeitgeistmonroe 1 year ago
once again...great video!
slimtheimperial 1 year ago
it would have been a good vid bur you TALK without taking a breath .... ( PAUSE ) Maybe just a little .... please .....
willdeburr 1 year ago
J. Krishnamurti was a very deep and spiritual man. That desire for love in every human being and the attachment to spirituality is the way many have chosen to find that love, purpose, and awareness of self. This is the same thing that you are talking about here, only the Zeitgeist Movement has unfortunately chosen to stratify itself by pitting the believers and unbelievers as opposing views; once again creating division instead of inclusion. Certainly no fault of yours. Great video, btw.
KindaGamey 1 year ago
@KindaGamey Except that the Zeitgeist Movement does not say that believing is bad, they say that BLIND faith is harmful, especially in the current proselytizing followers for money. They actually want the philosophy and intentions behind religion put into practice, things like do not kill, do not steal, love your neighbor and so on. Jacques Fresco even said something along the lines of "these are great ideas, when are they going to be put into practice".The current implementation is at fault.
CarsNemoFan 1 year ago
@CarsNemoFan nice. i like your answer. wish it was true.
KindaGamey 1 year ago
I went to a school where the teachers beat the shit out of the kids and also used humiliation tactics. The only thing it does is make abuse and dysfunction a part of your everyday life and it teaches you how to psychologically cope, or bring out negative tendencies.
Neanderthalcouzin 1 year ago 2
There was a national park with elephants in it that were going nuts, becoming extremely violent and even raping rhinos. This was due to a breakdown in social cohesion that seemed to be the result of stress, habitat loss and so on.
Neanderthalcouzin 1 year ago 2
@Neanderthalcouzin haha you peaked my interest. and as i i typed "elephants raping rhinos" into google, i felt the beauty of the human quest for knowledge.
seriously, though, found a lengthy new york times article though it seems to be more about elephants in the wild rather than national parks. haven't read through it yet. you got any links i could check out on this?
saydaysago2008 1 year ago
@saydaysago2008 I love your work! Your vid is now on my menu for reference when I need to address negativity in people's attitudes about ZM. Thanks dude.
willywillyization 1 year ago
Very nice! Thank you!
Bonethrasher 1 year ago
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This is really great.
Btw, one thing theyve done in African countries hit by civil war is in some cases, i.e. Sierra Leone, they took people who were perpetrators or victims of severe violence, etc, and they did a kind of community ritual to *resurrect* them so to speak.
Neanderthalcouzin 1 year ago
This is really great.
Btw, one thing theyve done in African countries hit by civil war is in some cases, i.e. Sierra Leone, they took people who were perpetrators or victims of severe violence, etc, and they did a kind of community ritual to *resurrect* them so to speak.
Neanderthalcouzin 1 year ago
it's hard to think of "do not give up on anyone" as a personal commitment
conceitarturo 1 year ago
@conceitarturo i think it needs to be a societal effort. sometimes the burden of a sick, violent person is too much for one person to bear. this is why we need a more understanding and nurturing community aspect in this effort.
saydaysago2008 1 year ago 27
@saydaysago2008 I just cant help but look at my life and see that I easily give up on people not that abnormal at all :p But I completely agree about the need for a societal effort against violence, to cut off the endless chain instead of perpetrating it on and on...I wish this were obvious to everyone, and I think you did a great job of exposing this idea, thank you!
conceitarturo 1 year ago
This work is wonderful... THANK YOU.
CristianKirk 1 year ago
i wonder if the dude makin these videos realizes how much of a beneficial impact he's making on the collective...
AquiVengaElSol 1 year ago 2
Perfect video, good summary. The end is powerful with the wishes. Kudos!
P.S. Keep them coming (^.^)-b
Johnator45 1 year ago
Wow what a powerful message in those wishes.
:'(
Icemario87 1 year ago
that houseless man at the end had a beautiful message <3
espivalis 1 year ago
eeerrrr well I love it!!! but the end cuts off and im not sure if it continues?
Allisonthacker 1 year ago
Man, you got the voice! great video! great voice! great editing! great effort! :-)
VenusAsABoyFilms 1 year ago
thanks sir. changing the world one brilliant video at a time. <3
cloudlessblue 1 year ago
Love this most educational vid...thanks...
willywillyization 1 year ago
i love your work.
ramp2tramp 1 year ago
thanks for the upload
Homocystine 1 year ago
Thank you for making and posting this.
Pertemba40 1 year ago
I'm finishing a degree in "Psycho-Social Violence."
I'm totally going to steal your ideas for my capstone and thesis. This is really good stuff.
shamantics 1 year ago 2
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BlueChipNinja 1 year ago
indeed! sharing as well!
Vawklin 1 year ago