You can't change the teachings of God to suit what you feel you "should do". We're all tested in many ways, like you with homosexual thoughts.
Or do you not know that wrongdoers will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor men who have sex with men? 1 Cor 6:9
You're a sinner just like I am. We must move to be more like Christ, hating our sin, not telling other Christians (who are correct in Biblical terms) to "p*** off".
@NornIronLocal I've looked into this. I didn't simply decide to ignore those passages, I read into them and learn the context of the time and what I believe them to be truly saying - all which can be found in the links in the description which I'm sure you've read.
Furthermore, I don't let the Bible dictate my life, I let the Spirit. I prayed about this a lot and feel that God did not make any mistake and that my love in his eyes is not sinful in any form.
@NornIronLocal and lastly, Christians who judge others aren't correct in Biblical terms. It says more in the Bible about judging others than homosexuality.
@Jonnyiswhatweaimfor "The one who rejects me and does not receive my words has a judge; the word that I have spoken will judge him on the last day". (John 12:48).
Christians are allowed to judge with righteous judgement (John 7:24), and should feel the need to tell a brother in Christ that they are well off the track that God wants
When you read a bit of the bible that you do not like, you cannot simply say "I'll not listen to that bit". That makes a mockery of the entire Christian faith!
@NornIronLocal You believe I'm well off track. I do not.
I take it you love all these passages in the Bible too Psalm 137:9, 1 Timothy 2:12, Deuteronomy 22:28, Leviticus 25:44, Jeremiah 48:10, Ezekiel 9:5, Exodus 21:7, Ezekiel 21:33, Numbers 25:4.
I don't ignore bits of the Bible I don't like. I seek to understand who said it, why it was said, who it was said to and much more. I study my Bible and take this seriously. I don't appreciate you trying to make a mockery of me.
@Jonnyiswhatweaimfor I am not making a mockery of you as I do not know you. I am stating that there is no way that the Bible (God's word) and consequently God justifies homosexuality. The bible continually does the exact opposite.
Not just in the OT (like all of the verses to Ancient Israel etc you mention), but throughout the New Testament also are people condemned and punished for sexual immorality and unnatural desires. I just cant see any basis for someone to think otherwise.
@NornIronLocal you know, if religion was something that never happened then i wonder what you would say about homosexuality. i wonder how much condemning of whatever groups you would do from your own damn free will. matthew 7: 1-3. stick to what you dig, and let other people do the same. jesus never condemned homosexuality (from what i've read), so no worries; forgiveness all round.
@NornIronLocal Oh so we can ignore whatever is in the Old Testament then is that it? It's only if it's in the New Testament it really matters? We can apply the rules of studying Scripture in it's context in the Old Testament but obviously can't do that with the New Testament. I'm sorry but this topic only is mentioned 3 times in totally in the New Testament, 2 of which is one word which wasn't even the word for homosexual at the time. Paul made up and used a completely new word and there is much
@NornIronLocal debate over what that word meant. And then if you look in Romans 1, it appears to say being gay is lustful and unnatural but if you actually study that text you'll find there is a lot of evidence suggesting that Paul was writing about the sex practices and orgies in the Greco-Roman world which is to do with idolatry. Furthermore the world used for natural and unnatural in it's defined as "natural/unnatural to ones character" implying people with a heterosexual orientation
@NornIronLocal you can't say that if jonny decides how he feels on something from the bible that he's making "a mockery of the entire christian faith". what are your thoughts on the insane amount of christian denominations that mix up what they want to believe in? i'm not a christian, i haven't read the bible enough to quote and decide on which opinion i dig or not, but one thing i can say is that from what i've heard/read, the main guy is jesus, and he was pretty into everybody, no matter what.
Jonny, I've only met you once and you probably don't remember me!! but you have got great courage my friend!! You are a true example of what a Christian should be and I honestly believe that God does not hate gays and that God loves you so damn much!!! But you probably know that!!
This decision has not been easy for you I know... and it will be hard I know...
Keep going bro!!
Praying for ya!!
Stevie D
(hope you don't think im being a dick or anything...)
It's the same view I've had about being gay and christianity for a long time and have always been slated in church for it. I like to remind them that the bible was written in a different era, and as time has gone on more things are becoming acceptable in religion.
so prayer didn't work after 3 years so you decided it must be God saying its okay?
and how can you tell the people who judge you to piss off? surely those are the people that you want to educate the most. did Jesus tell those who judged him to piss off? i don't think so. have you actually went and got professional advice, counselling to help yourself get rid of your supposedly once unwanted attraction or just decided through prayer? He who walks with wise men will be wise [prov 13:20].
I was just curious! I cant really find any good answers! Im not looking for an argument simply for people to know what the bible actually says! God bless :)
@areyoulivingright okay, fair enough, I know what the Bible says about all of this and I've read a lot about it. It's not something I take lightly. If you wanna know more about it, start with the GCN, they have a lot of useful info there.
So the word in greek is debatable to its current meaning! What about Romans 1:26-27, Leviticus 18:22, Leviticus 20:13? Also god saying the marriage between a MAN and a WOMEN should represent the relationship between jesus and the church? Why is there no clear statement of same sex relations?
@areyoulivingright I did not make this video to argue my beliefs with someone who has no care for me anyway. Watch the videos on the GCN and read articles on the gay Christian network if you want an understanding of what I believe. But if you are not here to understand my beliefs but merely try to belittle them, please leave.
Chorinthians Ch6 v9-10do you not know the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived! The sexually immoral, idolaters,adulterers, passive homosxual partners, practicing homosexuals, thieves, drunkards will not inherit the kingdom of god! (NEV)So how could god call u to be a sinner?thats like me saying god called me to be an adulterer!surely as a christian you should be convicted of ur sin as the holy spirit lives wihtin you?God does love EVERYONE, but he HATES there sin.
Jonny, your're intelligent, brilliant, and smart. I was yoru friend back then, i'm still your friend. I support you, and i'm proud of you. Your a great person whom keep their faith in God. God is good, and God makes no mistakes. Keep your hand in God's hand and let me keep guiding and leading you in his own way. Always give God the praises and glory that he deserves; because it is through him that we wake up each day and breath due to his perfect works. I'm here for you my friend. God Bless!
@chocolateguy72476 I'm glad that your feeling better now. Keep your head held high and if people has something negative to say; pray for them and give it to God. God loves everyone. God doesn't discriminate against his children. I'm a Christian and i'm proud of to be one, because when God calls his children home; we will be living in The Kingdom of Jesus Christ. God Bless, peace, and Amen!
Congratulations! This took a lot of courage. I'm so happy for you and proud of you. I wish you all the best on your journey this year. You are a beautiful and open person and I'm so happy for the world that you are sharing this. Best wishes :)
Wow well done jonny! Must have been pretty scarey making a video like this but seriiously you should be proud. My bestfriend is gay not that it makes any difference in my eyes but I know how hard it has been for him and can't have been easy for you either but I hope you get the support you deserve. I know not everyone is as understanding but hopefully you'll open up a few minds :) good luck in the new year babe:)
Once again, well done, Happy New year Jonny, I'm so happy that you are not afraid to be yourself even if it might come at a cost, inspirational! <3 Bex
Love this video!!!! You are not alone as I am also a gay christian. It's time for us to challenge and inform both sides that you can be gay and still be a God fearing christian! I support you and you are def inspiring others!!! God bless!
My friend, I'm so proud of you. It takes a lot of courage to come out to the world like this, I wish it didn't and that people just accepted everybody straight away, but our world isn't like that unfortunately. You my friend are inspirational. :) 3
after watching this I can't really go on to watch the other videos in my subscriptions I am just so moved by this, I am so happy for you!:D some of the things you've mentioned kindaa relate to me, I might do a response because I feel like I need to get something of my chest soon idk
Jonny, you are amazing, well done, not everyone thinks like that homosexuality is perfectly normal, love is beautiful in all its forms and I'm glad you're not afraid!!!! Much love <3
You can't change the teachings of God to suit what you feel you "should do". We're all tested in many ways, like you with homosexual thoughts.
Or do you not know that wrongdoers will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor men who have sex with men? 1 Cor 6:9
You're a sinner just like I am. We must move to be more like Christ, hating our sin, not telling other Christians (who are correct in Biblical terms) to "p*** off".
NornIronLocal 2 weeks ago 4
Comment removed
JayRKid 2 weeks ago
@NornIronLocal I've looked into this. I didn't simply decide to ignore those passages, I read into them and learn the context of the time and what I believe them to be truly saying - all which can be found in the links in the description which I'm sure you've read.
Furthermore, I don't let the Bible dictate my life, I let the Spirit. I prayed about this a lot and feel that God did not make any mistake and that my love in his eyes is not sinful in any form.
Jonnyiswhatweaimfor 2 weeks ago
@NornIronLocal and lastly, Christians who judge others aren't correct in Biblical terms. It says more in the Bible about judging others than homosexuality.
Jonnyiswhatweaimfor 2 weeks ago
@Jonnyiswhatweaimfor "The one who rejects me and does not receive my words has a judge; the word that I have spoken will judge him on the last day". (John 12:48).
Christians are allowed to judge with righteous judgement (John 7:24), and should feel the need to tell a brother in Christ that they are well off the track that God wants
When you read a bit of the bible that you do not like, you cannot simply say "I'll not listen to that bit". That makes a mockery of the entire Christian faith!
NornIronLocal 2 weeks ago
@NornIronLocal You believe I'm well off track. I do not.
I take it you love all these passages in the Bible too Psalm 137:9, 1 Timothy 2:12, Deuteronomy 22:28, Leviticus 25:44, Jeremiah 48:10, Ezekiel 9:5, Exodus 21:7, Ezekiel 21:33, Numbers 25:4.
I don't ignore bits of the Bible I don't like. I seek to understand who said it, why it was said, who it was said to and much more. I study my Bible and take this seriously. I don't appreciate you trying to make a mockery of me.
Jonnyiswhatweaimfor 2 weeks ago
@Jonnyiswhatweaimfor I am not making a mockery of you as I do not know you. I am stating that there is no way that the Bible (God's word) and consequently God justifies homosexuality. The bible continually does the exact opposite.
Not just in the OT (like all of the verses to Ancient Israel etc you mention), but throughout the New Testament also are people condemned and punished for sexual immorality and unnatural desires. I just cant see any basis for someone to think otherwise.
NornIronLocal 2 weeks ago
@NornIronLocal you know, if religion was something that never happened then i wonder what you would say about homosexuality. i wonder how much condemning of whatever groups you would do from your own damn free will. matthew 7: 1-3. stick to what you dig, and let other people do the same. jesus never condemned homosexuality (from what i've read), so no worries; forgiveness all round.
bailersss 2 weeks ago
@NornIronLocal Oh so we can ignore whatever is in the Old Testament then is that it? It's only if it's in the New Testament it really matters? We can apply the rules of studying Scripture in it's context in the Old Testament but obviously can't do that with the New Testament. I'm sorry but this topic only is mentioned 3 times in totally in the New Testament, 2 of which is one word which wasn't even the word for homosexual at the time. Paul made up and used a completely new word and there is much
Jonnyiswhatweaimfor 2 weeks ago
@NornIronLocal debate over what that word meant. And then if you look in Romans 1, it appears to say being gay is lustful and unnatural but if you actually study that text you'll find there is a lot of evidence suggesting that Paul was writing about the sex practices and orgies in the Greco-Roman world which is to do with idolatry. Furthermore the world used for natural and unnatural in it's defined as "natural/unnatural to ones character" implying people with a heterosexual orientation
Jonnyiswhatweaimfor 2 weeks ago
@NornIronLocal were performing these practices. It's NOT talking about two people who are in love and deeply committed to one another.
I don't expect you change your beliefs but have the decency to respect mine!
Jonnyiswhatweaimfor 2 weeks ago
@NornIronLocal you can't say that if jonny decides how he feels on something from the bible that he's making "a mockery of the entire christian faith". what are your thoughts on the insane amount of christian denominations that mix up what they want to believe in? i'm not a christian, i haven't read the bible enough to quote and decide on which opinion i dig or not, but one thing i can say is that from what i've heard/read, the main guy is jesus, and he was pretty into everybody, no matter what.
bailersss 2 weeks ago
Jonny, I've only met you once and you probably don't remember me!! but you have got great courage my friend!! You are a true example of what a Christian should be and I honestly believe that God does not hate gays and that God loves you so damn much!!! But you probably know that!!
This decision has not been easy for you I know... and it will be hard I know...
Keep going bro!!
Praying for ya!!
Stevie D
(hope you don't think im being a dick or anything...)
SDsEntertainment 1 month ago
It's the same view I've had about being gay and christianity for a long time and have always been slated in church for it. I like to remind them that the bible was written in a different era, and as time has gone on more things are becoming acceptable in religion.
That took some courage coming out
orangeducks07 1 month ago
so prayer didn't work after 3 years so you decided it must be God saying its okay?
and how can you tell the people who judge you to piss off? surely those are the people that you want to educate the most. did Jesus tell those who judged him to piss off? i don't think so. have you actually went and got professional advice, counselling to help yourself get rid of your supposedly once unwanted attraction or just decided through prayer? He who walks with wise men will be wise [prov 13:20].
mmwinters2 1 month ago
It takes alot of courage to post this. Thanks for sharing your faith, I 100 % agree.
xstephaniexlovex 1 month ago
I was just curious! I cant really find any good answers! Im not looking for an argument simply for people to know what the bible actually says! God bless :)
areyoulivingright 1 month ago
@areyoulivingright okay, fair enough, I know what the Bible says about all of this and I've read a lot about it. It's not something I take lightly. If you wanna know more about it, start with the GCN, they have a lot of useful info there.
Jonnyiswhatweaimfor 1 month ago
So the word in greek is debatable to its current meaning! What about Romans 1:26-27, Leviticus 18:22, Leviticus 20:13? Also god saying the marriage between a MAN and a WOMEN should represent the relationship between jesus and the church? Why is there no clear statement of same sex relations?
areyoulivingright 1 month ago
@areyoulivingright I did not make this video to argue my beliefs with someone who has no care for me anyway. Watch the videos on the GCN and read articles on the gay Christian network if you want an understanding of what I believe. But if you are not here to understand my beliefs but merely try to belittle them, please leave.
Jonnyiswhatweaimfor 1 month ago
Chorinthians Ch6 v9-10do you not know the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived! The sexually immoral, idolaters,adulterers, passive homosxual partners, practicing homosexuals, thieves, drunkards will not inherit the kingdom of god! (NEV)So how could god call u to be a sinner?thats like me saying god called me to be an adulterer!surely as a christian you should be convicted of ur sin as the holy spirit lives wihtin you?God does love EVERYONE, but he HATES there sin.
areyoulivingright 1 month ago in playlist Uploaded videos
@areyoulivingright watch that video watch?v=PvYdG5_vcB8
Jonnyiswhatweaimfor 1 month ago
Jonny, your're intelligent, brilliant, and smart. I was yoru friend back then, i'm still your friend. I support you, and i'm proud of you. Your a great person whom keep their faith in God. God is good, and God makes no mistakes. Keep your hand in God's hand and let me keep guiding and leading you in his own way. Always give God the praises and glory that he deserves; because it is through him that we wake up each day and breath due to his perfect works. I'm here for you my friend. God Bless!
chocolateguy72476 1 month ago
@chocolateguy72476 I'm glad that your feeling better now. Keep your head held high and if people has something negative to say; pray for them and give it to God. God loves everyone. God doesn't discriminate against his children. I'm a Christian and i'm proud of to be one, because when God calls his children home; we will be living in The Kingdom of Jesus Christ. God Bless, peace, and Amen!
chocolateguy72476 1 month ago
I wish my faith and confidence were as concrete as yours, basically you're an inspiration to me.
yourtrainjourney 1 month ago
You're such a brilliant person and I know I don't know you but I feel proud of you for this. I wish you the best in your life. xx
Melissamartinyay 1 month ago
hey this took courage to say this well done :)
sparkalinggray 1 month ago
Congratulations! This took a lot of courage. I'm so happy for you and proud of you. I wish you all the best on your journey this year. You are a beautiful and open person and I'm so happy for the world that you are sharing this. Best wishes :)
GreenEyesOfLaughter 1 month ago
i dont really like gay's, but this video took some balls to make:) respect for that, its your life, its your choise:)
joananunun 1 month ago
Wow well done jonny! Must have been pretty scarey making a video like this but seriiously you should be proud. My bestfriend is gay not that it makes any difference in my eyes but I know how hard it has been for him and can't have been easy for you either but I hope you get the support you deserve. I know not everyone is as understanding but hopefully you'll open up a few minds :) good luck in the new year babe:)
wellendore 1 month ago
Inspirational :) Took balls.
TheFlyingPenQuinn 1 month ago
Looks like that took a lot out of you jonny. Well done mate
PJWalker13 1 month ago
love you, pal.
bailersss 1 month ago
Jonny, you are lovely and I am super proud of you.
: )
luckyducky8200 1 month ago
Way to go Jonny :)
christine6290 1 month ago
Once again, well done, Happy New year Jonny, I'm so happy that you are not afraid to be yourself even if it might come at a cost, inspirational! <3 Bex
TheIsabellaGranger 1 month ago
Love this video!!!! You are not alone as I am also a gay christian. It's time for us to challenge and inform both sides that you can be gay and still be a God fearing christian! I support you and you are def inspiring others!!! God bless!
Dallas7 1 month ago
My friend, I'm so proud of you. It takes a lot of courage to come out to the world like this, I wish it didn't and that people just accepted everybody straight away, but our world isn't like that unfortunately. You my friend are inspirational. :) 3
conorlovesfaces 1 month ago
You made me cry, this is so beautiful. You're amazing. <3
katrinalikespancakes 1 month ago
after watching this I can't really go on to watch the other videos in my subscriptions I am just so moved by this, I am so happy for you!:D some of the things you've mentioned kindaa relate to me, I might do a response because I feel like I need to get something of my chest soon idk
lizzygoround 1 month ago
Awwww, Jonny!
I love you so much, and I'm so proud of you.
This was a lovely video, and I'm glad that you're happy with who you are.
You really are inspirational, and I feel so lucky to have you as a friend.
SpeakSSllooww 1 month ago
Your vocabulary is abs amazing but that was totally of topic but go on ya laddy live you life as you intended it!!
So long we spend are life in chains and we never even new we had the key! :D
GO YOU!! :D <3
zipton360 1 month ago
props to you, this took guts, good luck with all you do johnny !
xletxlivex 1 month ago
very moving video and i'm pleased for you :)
JMcDonnell91 1 month ago
Much love to you Jonny
You are a cool guy. Very proud of you. This takes courage.
Vikki
Biology9876 1 month ago
You're truly amazing Jonny. So Proud. Love you <3x
rsheeran23 1 month ago
Well done for doing this :) You're awesome >.<
rachpaperscissors 1 month ago
that was amazing jonny. x
HaveAFwank 1 month ago
You are just the best person ever.
Well done <3
ScootScootMusic 1 month ago
you are amazing<3
Morganissoweird 1 month ago
i love you jonny.
TalkT0Frankie 1 month ago 6
oh god this is so amazing, i felt exactly the same when i was coming out. well done <3
matthewcars0n 1 month ago
Jonny, you are amazing, well done, not everyone thinks like that homosexuality is perfectly normal, love is beautiful in all its forms and I'm glad you're not afraid!!!! Much love <3
TheIsabellaGranger 1 month ago