Comments about ski technique, by CPNCO, only continues to demonstrate that coaches education is still the greatest weakness in development of North American ski racing.
My results have nothing to do with my ego, very weak attempt at flattery, but thank you.
My results with skiers, at the world cup and national level, are performance based and proven. Your uninvited and irrelevant comments continue to enhance your lack of credibility, and make a fool of yourself. Your tactics of trying to become known on other people's backs, efforts and education are pitiful.
Early pressure relative to the fall line to me, is a key component in fast skiing. If you use simulcam on dartfish you'll see that athletes working below the fall line are fighting gravity across the hill. Those that bring shape to the fall line, can accelerate and increase their lead incrementally down the course. With good tactics, where the course allows, they can eventually use a more shallow arc and run more direct. Better the skier, the tighter the arc to get shape into the fall line.
@CPNCO Please don't insult your abilities even further, as a "want to be coach", by making comments like the ones you just posted. You have no idea of what you are talking. You can watch Dartfish all day long, you will never understand what true world cup skiing is, you just don't get it. "Pressure" is the worst thing you can strive for above the gate. Hang your hat on it, but you are doing damage to any racers you are involved with.
@CPNCO It's really sad to see the state of the ski coaching art being butchered, as this coach is demonstrating. The person putting up this post doesn't even distinguish between the movements, such as, "developing angles" and "creating pressure". He still believes pressure should be created above the falline. This is so old an idea I can't even remember the coaches who have long abandoned it.
@CPNCO Although he clams to an expert at "Dartfish" the video analysis tool, with which you can do, side by side, timing, slow motion, almost everything available. But he can't see the dynamics of skiing.
My friends, this is a perfect scenario, a coach who has so much; either position or self importance, that comes here, to post erroneous ideas. I cherish the opportunity to respond because few coaches have the audacity to come forth, even if they are right or wrong. They usually hide. Here is one who is standing on his ideas, even if he's way off base, I love it.
@skiwhh Initially I just posted because I thought it was ridiculous that you would take a video of Bode doing a drill demonstrating pole plant to int/adv skiers and totally cut up his entire skiing. I just think it's a shallow way of making yourself look good and to support what you're teaching. It's easy when you pause wherever you want to make claims, totally ignoring the skier as a whole; his athleticism, his flow. I just couldn't let you sound off like that and sell it to people.
@CPNCO What it demonstrates, sadly, is that there are so many coaches out in the nation, although I think this one is a Canadian, that have no idea of what they are coaching.
Skiing slalom isn't about early pressure, that has been know by valued coaches for over a decade. Your response is dated, and out of touch with modern skiing and frankly incorrect.
You might want to do a little more studying and gain some experience before commenting on technical posts and information.
You've established absolutely no context here in your smack talk of Bode. The shots you're analyzing are from some kind of instructional video for the masses, yet he's doing this on his slalom skis and stiff wc boots, not easy. The A frame look is pretty common among top SL skiers and more so in the era this video was taken. To establish early pressure in slalom, you need to engage the new ski sooner, and independence in the lower joints is one way of doing it.
@CPNCO My context is from working with numerous athletes on the world cup who do finish slalom races. What you have done by writing your post is demonstrate your ignorance. Thank you for playing.
After seeing Hirscher in the next video I have to retract my last sentence below as obviously he does the outside hand knocking down the gate thing perfectly and Bode is just double polling at times.
@tallbergs Most young racers and their coaches IMO, let the kids evolve a poor hand, arm, pole movement. This can be learned correctly through proper free ski exercises. The essence of the block is to not move the hand or arm across. The body should be angled instead, so the arm makes only a small adjustment. Of course in a flush this is different, that is why you see many top racers using the old inside block when they can't create the body angles.
What I'm seeing here is Bode cranking his knees over and instead of flexing he seems to drop or allow his upper body to drop over his thighs and that forces an
aggressive carve probably pressured just in front of his boots on the ski's.
It's odd and as for the pole plant that makes no sense to me at all but I too get
into a lot of trouble with some bad planting habits and weird hand motions but
I come from the days of bamboo. The breakaway's change the hand function
Most people only look at the success and rarely question what could have been achieved with the right technique and set up. I think Bode could have been better than Stenmark, but now it's too late, we will never know.
Hi Harald! I'm an italian skier and I've seen all your videos: they are very teaching. I've learnt and improved my skiing much! I THANK YOU! In this analisys what would you say, Bode has an uncorrect technical? I think so, but he has won much, so it's working!
Comments about ski technique, by CPNCO, only continues to demonstrate that coaches education is still the greatest weakness in development of North American ski racing.
skiwhh 8 months ago
My results have nothing to do with my ego, very weak attempt at flattery, but thank you.
My results with skiers, at the world cup and national level, are performance based and proven. Your uninvited and irrelevant comments continue to enhance your lack of credibility, and make a fool of yourself. Your tactics of trying to become known on other people's backs, efforts and education are pitiful.
skiwhh 8 months ago
Early pressure relative to the fall line to me, is a key component in fast skiing. If you use simulcam on dartfish you'll see that athletes working below the fall line are fighting gravity across the hill. Those that bring shape to the fall line, can accelerate and increase their lead incrementally down the course. With good tactics, where the course allows, they can eventually use a more shallow arc and run more direct. Better the skier, the tighter the arc to get shape into the fall line.
CPNCO 8 months ago
@CPNCO Please don't insult your abilities even further, as a "want to be coach", by making comments like the ones you just posted. You have no idea of what you are talking. You can watch Dartfish all day long, you will never understand what true world cup skiing is, you just don't get it. "Pressure" is the worst thing you can strive for above the gate. Hang your hat on it, but you are doing damage to any racers you are involved with.
skiwhh 8 months ago
@CPNCO It's really sad to see the state of the ski coaching art being butchered, as this coach is demonstrating. The person putting up this post doesn't even distinguish between the movements, such as, "developing angles" and "creating pressure". He still believes pressure should be created above the falline. This is so old an idea I can't even remember the coaches who have long abandoned it.
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skiwhh 8 months ago
@CPNCO Although he clams to an expert at "Dartfish" the video analysis tool, with which you can do, side by side, timing, slow motion, almost everything available. But he can't see the dynamics of skiing.
skiwhh 8 months ago
@CPNCO
My friends, this is a perfect scenario, a coach who has so much; either position or self importance, that comes here, to post erroneous ideas. I cherish the opportunity to respond because few coaches have the audacity to come forth, even if they are right or wrong. They usually hide. Here is one who is standing on his ideas, even if he's way off base, I love it.
skiwhh 8 months ago
@skiwhh Initially I just posted because I thought it was ridiculous that you would take a video of Bode doing a drill demonstrating pole plant to int/adv skiers and totally cut up his entire skiing. I just think it's a shallow way of making yourself look good and to support what you're teaching. It's easy when you pause wherever you want to make claims, totally ignoring the skier as a whole; his athleticism, his flow. I just couldn't let you sound off like that and sell it to people.
CPNCO 8 months ago
@CPNCO What it demonstrates, sadly, is that there are so many coaches out in the nation, although I think this one is a Canadian, that have no idea of what they are coaching.
skiwhh 8 months ago
Skiing slalom isn't about early pressure, that has been know by valued coaches for over a decade. Your response is dated, and out of touch with modern skiing and frankly incorrect.
You might want to do a little more studying and gain some experience before commenting on technical posts and information.
skiwhh 8 months ago
You've established absolutely no context here in your smack talk of Bode. The shots you're analyzing are from some kind of instructional video for the masses, yet he's doing this on his slalom skis and stiff wc boots, not easy. The A frame look is pretty common among top SL skiers and more so in the era this video was taken. To establish early pressure in slalom, you need to engage the new ski sooner, and independence in the lower joints is one way of doing it.
CPNCO 8 months ago
@CPNCO My context is from working with numerous athletes on the world cup who do finish slalom races. What you have done by writing your post is demonstrate your ignorance. Thank you for playing.
skiwhh 8 months ago
Me again
After seeing Hirscher in the next video I have to retract my last sentence below as obviously he does the outside hand knocking down the gate thing perfectly and Bode is just double polling at times.
tallbergs 1 year ago
@tallbergs Most young racers and their coaches IMO, let the kids evolve a poor hand, arm, pole movement. This can be learned correctly through proper free ski exercises. The essence of the block is to not move the hand or arm across. The body should be angled instead, so the arm makes only a small adjustment. Of course in a flush this is different, that is why you see many top racers using the old inside block when they can't create the body angles.
skiwhh 1 year ago
Hi Harold
What I'm seeing here is Bode cranking his knees over and instead of flexing he seems to drop or allow his upper body to drop over his thighs and that forces an
aggressive carve probably pressured just in front of his boots on the ski's.
It's odd and as for the pole plant that makes no sense to me at all but I too get
into a lot of trouble with some bad planting habits and weird hand motions but
I come from the days of bamboo. The breakaway's change the hand function
for the worse.
tallbergs 1 year ago
Gotta say harald, that was pretty harsh, but true. I would love to see you coach the US ski team.
snowyphil65 1 year ago
Most people only look at the success and rarely question what could have been achieved with the right technique and set up. I think Bode could have been better than Stenmark, but now it's too late, we will never know.
skiwhh 1 year ago
Hi Harald! I'm an italian skier and I've seen all your videos: they are very teaching. I've learnt and improved my skiing much! I THANK YOU! In this analisys what would you say, Bode has an uncorrect technical? I think so, but he has won much, so it's working!
Do you agree?
theblockhaus 1 year ago
@theblockhaus Thanks for your post.
skiwhh 1 year ago
@theblockhaus You're right. I hope I'll meet you sometimes may be in Hintertux. Bye.
theblockhaus 1 year ago