It's interesting to note that when Gould made this recording (his 2nd studio recording), he gave no indication YET of not liking the music, as far as I know. The tempos are very much in the tradition of his 1st Goldberg recording, which was a huge hit, and I think Gould sincerely expected the same success for his late beethoven recordings. Why, after all, do we feel that this sort of approach "works" for Bach, but not for Beethoven? Something to think about.
Respond to this video... It seems that there is the composer's piece, and then there is Gould's piece. Both are different experiences. I wonder if Beethoven played this fast, streaming through all the sections like a fury... Gould's personality and mastery hit me right in the face, almost distracting me from the 19th-century composer. Do I want to hear Beethoven or Gould? Both are brilliant and capitivating.
@desboy113 Good point. Gould in fact always approached performance as a composer and not as an interpreter. He viewed a score as an opportunity to go beyond what the composer "intended". While there is such a thing as performance practice in the sense of its the historical/stylistice/esthetics of the music, Gould did not concern himself with these at the expense of his own musical idea and/or ideal. Ditractors need only not listent to him; there are plenty of other recordings available.
Yehudi Menuhin recorded A. Schoenberg Violin Sonata with G. Gould but he did really dislike it. Gould was not a troll but an istrionic genius. He admired Mozart in the construction of finali for each one of his operas, and he love his young composition but admired haydn the most because the older master was far more intersting (according to him) in the development of musical ideas. He recorded the Sonata n. 3 of Chopin in the attempt to emphasize some elements through is interpretation
Has to be hist best sonata; I'm usually an Appassionata man or a Hammerklavier man but when I started to learn this the intricacies and the counterpoint made me love it more. This really is my favourite; hopefully a video will be up soon.
@yumpin he argumented a lot about his ideas of Appassionata. And what emerge from his thoughts is that he really hated this sonata. He recorded Chopin, Grieg, Mozart and all these ones were not among his favourites.
@vinciano Did you not read my comment? he liked to stir the pot, if he hated the appassionata he never would have recorded it (but it was one of his lesser favourites of Beethoven), he constantly contradicted himself when he spoke of such matters. For example he dedicated a radio show about how terrible a composer Mozart was, yet I have seen him tell of his admiration of Mozart in an interview. He also reviewed his own performances under alter egos and called himself terrible. He was a troll
@yumpin the same work he did for Mozart. And i never found a moment in which Gould seriously contraddict his approach toward music and art in general.
@robtrodes I don't think he even realized that he was singing in the process of playing. The way I see it is that Gould is a man of another world, we can't expect the same level of self-awareness and consideration towards the listeners from him as we do from other musicians.
@Wahrheitization He did realize it actually. I think his Mom told him to sing while he was playing for whatever reason (I had a teacher who told me to do the same thing), and he got in the habit of doing it and could not stop.
It's interesting to note that when Gould made this recording (his 2nd studio recording), he gave no indication YET of not liking the music, as far as I know. The tempos are very much in the tradition of his 1st Goldberg recording, which was a huge hit, and I think Gould sincerely expected the same success for his late beethoven recordings. Why, after all, do we feel that this sort of approach "works" for Bach, but not for Beethoven? Something to think about.
hymntonight 4 weeks ago
for glenn is not important "sempre pianissimo"indicated from beethoven. true artist invented music art.
71lupenzo710 4 weeks ago
Amazing!
3001st 2 months ago
Uuuhhh....Glenn,....the tempo is ALLEGRO....but at least it is very clean. :)
100jllp 3 months ago
If he wants to play this piece he really need to pick up the tempo...
fernandofariajunior 3 months ago
Wow, I see where Liszt picked it up from! starting at 1:55 to 2:11 sounds completely like a passage from Liszt.
foodiste 3 months ago
lol
newFranzFerencLiszt 6 months ago
Respond to this video... It seems that there is the composer's piece, and then there is Gould's piece. Both are different experiences. I wonder if Beethoven played this fast, streaming through all the sections like a fury... Gould's personality and mastery hit me right in the face, almost distracting me from the 19th-century composer. Do I want to hear Beethoven or Gould? Both are brilliant and capitivating.
desboy113 7 months ago
@desboy113 Good point. Gould in fact always approached performance as a composer and not as an interpreter. He viewed a score as an opportunity to go beyond what the composer "intended". While there is such a thing as performance practice in the sense of its the historical/stylistice/esthetics of the music, Gould did not concern himself with these at the expense of his own musical idea and/or ideal. Ditractors need only not listent to him; there are plenty of other recordings available.
Frozentoes1 2 months ago
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desboy113 7 months ago
If your head does't explode between 5:20 to 5:35 you've probably never tried to play this.
nicklewisatx 8 months ago
@nicklewisatx My head explodes just listening to it, but yes I have tried playing it and will leave it at that..... "TRIED" :-)
1Janny1 3 months ago
Yehudi Menuhin recorded A. Schoenberg Violin Sonata with G. Gould but he did really dislike it. Gould was not a troll but an istrionic genius. He admired Mozart in the construction of finali for each one of his operas, and he love his young composition but admired haydn the most because the older master was far more intersting (according to him) in the development of musical ideas. He recorded the Sonata n. 3 of Chopin in the attempt to emphasize some elements through is interpretation
vinciano 9 months ago
Do you really think that teh period is classical? Beethoven died being romatic! and this is his last sonata.
mario1994444 10 months ago
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zsinet3 11 months ago
To me Gould is not the best Beethoven interpreter... by not treating Beethoven as if he were Bach I think you can get more out of op.111...
0561030 11 months ago
Ugh, Glenn. Why? Just why?...because you're Glenn Gould. That's why.
ProkofievRules 1 year ago
provocatorio
ppaolo2000 1 year ago
I was very much looking forward to hearing Gould's rendition of this one. Thanks to you, Truthification!
Sylverling 1 year ago
so fantastic ...amazing...this is one of the best plays in my life.
saintvingt 1 year ago
Has to be hist best sonata; I'm usually an Appassionata man or a Hammerklavier man but when I started to learn this the intricacies and the counterpoint made me love it more. This really is my favourite; hopefully a video will be up soon.
bencrom 1 year ago
@bencrom Lol, Gould hated both op. 57 and 106.
vinciano 1 year ago
@vinciano he said he did, but he also said he never recorded anything he hated. He stirred the pot alright
yumpin 9 months ago
@yumpin he argumented a lot about his ideas of Appassionata. And what emerge from his thoughts is that he really hated this sonata. He recorded Chopin, Grieg, Mozart and all these ones were not among his favourites.
vinciano 9 months ago
@vinciano Did you not read my comment? he liked to stir the pot, if he hated the appassionata he never would have recorded it (but it was one of his lesser favourites of Beethoven), he constantly contradicted himself when he spoke of such matters. For example he dedicated a radio show about how terrible a composer Mozart was, yet I have seen him tell of his admiration of Mozart in an interview. He also reviewed his own performances under alter egos and called himself terrible. He was a troll
yumpin 9 months ago
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vinciano 9 months ago
@yumpin the same work he did for Mozart. And i never found a moment in which Gould seriously contraddict his approach toward music and art in general.
vinciano 9 months ago
I do wish he'd realize that his vocal accomplishments aren't up to the standards of his pianistic ones, though. :)
robtrodes 1 year ago
@robtrodes I don't think he even realized that he was singing in the process of playing. The way I see it is that Gould is a man of another world, we can't expect the same level of self-awareness and consideration towards the listeners from him as we do from other musicians.
Wahrheitization 1 year ago 3
@Wahrheitization He did realize it actually. I think his Mom told him to sing while he was playing for whatever reason (I had a teacher who told me to do the same thing), and he got in the habit of doing it and could not stop.
morvensky 1 year ago
@Wahrheitization thanks
71lupenzo710 1 year ago
Fastest tempo I've ever heard this. Interesting and unique interpretation, as always with Gould.
robtrodes 1 year ago
I can't really be the only one to comment on Gould's 111. Holy shit. Its Sonata 32... a very special one...
nicklewisatx 1 year ago
@nicklewisatx This is absurdly good. It is a travesty that only 252 people have heard this.
PoopShitMario 1 year ago