This will life all the legs up and destroy the board. WTF dude. Y cant you use a hot air station? The cheapest chinese one would do much better than this. SHAME ON YOU
Man I tried this method on a Xbox south bridge and ended up breaking a leg on the ic and removing the traces and also the pads where the pins meet can you please help me
Other than the fact that the video is old, what does knowing how to solder have ANYTHING to do how much money you have? No, don't tell me "because you get a job"
By your logic the uploader would own a RED EPIC by now since it is one of the best cinematography cameras in the market. But do you honestly think he can afford one?
Idk how u even saw this... but uhh, naw there's no point in trolling a troll. As a wise person says, "The problem with arguing with fool is: when people pass by they can't tell who's not the fool." ;)
Calling others who is saying you're wrong does not make you right. Any camera that shoots higher than SD back in the early 00s costs just as much as a RED EPIC today. Do you honestly think you can afford that?
@MAIMPORT actually, putting it back is less dangerous and fairly easy. Clean the pads but make sure there is still a bit of fusible alloy on them, apply flux (rosin), position the chip on pads, and solder two opposing pins on the diagonal of the chip, then slide the soldering iron over the pins and check with magnifying glass. Here is a video with a TSOP-66 to give you an idea: youtube.com/watch?v=_2vnJyRuq98
This was made about 5 years ago... decongestant and allergy meds were invented since then... how about a redo on the video taking into account these factors?
A bit sloppy i just watched another video doing the same type of work where they used a low heat solder to remove same type of chip and lo and behold a q-tip was used, i give an A for effort here since this was done several years ago, by the way why didnt i see a response did the xbox survive this? or did i miss it on the 17 pages of response, personally i would have used the needle and the heat at same time desolder later gently pop them up as the heat let the solder go, not proper, job done?
Please take this video down, although you may have been successful here and I wish you luck, folk following your procedure will likely either damage their chip, board or both.
There are a few different and effective techniques when working with SMD components, but I'm sorry, this is not one of them.
Poor and incorrect method. Actually the easiest way is with a Heat gun and tweezers. Two minutes, then remove solder with wick, replace chip and resolder
@stilts07 Why you upload HowTo training videos if you dont have even the slightest idea of what you are doing?? the fact tht you watched some soldering videos doesnt make you experienced not even trained... to teach something you must be much above the level of that you try to teach...
Your videos will harm most people that dont know nothing about soldering like you... buying from ebay an solder iron and some flux doesnt make you an electrician.... nor a craftsman...
@Emeengor I'm an electrician. It's not that damned hard. We certified everyone at work in manufacturing with a 2-hour soldering course, 90 minutes of it wasnt needed. Just shut up. How are his videos harming anyone?
@CalicoatMaker To answer like that you must be a 2 week training and online certification electrician........ there are 21398129038120983 reasons for this video to be far away from being a training video or atleast a how to...
some of these: 1 there could be made shortcuts by using cotton with something glossy because cotton hair stick to the glossy material or even with liquid flux...
2: he destroys the chip wiith such a clumsy handling 3: he overheats everything... and more.. no char left
@Emeengor you dumb ass 1 cotton isn't conductive 2 the chip had to be removed for a new one I guess so it doesn't care if he destroys the chip 3 and what is he overheating then, it isn't the SMD resistor at the side because the solder on that component didn't even melt and if the chip is overheating... it doesn't care because he is removing it.
@MrJANTJE123 1 it doesnt need to be conductive (which at some low scale it is) it gets between the leeds and the connection and also is leads some solder to flow on it. last but not least memory nands are very sensitive to heat.. also scratching your board or cold solder isnt a good idea either
Anyways, the reason he is (attempting) to tho this is because the Xbox had 64mb of ram in it, and on most of them there are spots for extra ram. If you remove the RAM from one and put it in the other you can have up to 128mb and then use it to watch higher definition video, MAME, or run Linux on it. It's basically reusing old electronics.
When you want to move up IC pins use soldering michine and move up all IC pins, if you do it with soldering michine this tactic is good for replace IC when you have no air hot.
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This is the poor mans way of doing it. The rich man will have a rework/reballing hot air station like a AOYUE 2702A+ or a T870A BGA IRDA Welder Infrared Heating Rework Station.
I think it's just better to go to some electronics repair guys who own professional hardware so they can desolder the chip instead of risking costly damages.
As you are prying those soldered legs away from the board, you are pulling the actual copper pads off the laminate. Wicking the joints doesn't desolder a chip. Use a hot air station.
If you going to just ram a pin to lift up the leads why dont you heat them with the iron at the same time instead of using a braid. Seems like you have more of a chance lifting a pad your way. Or just used a heat gun like most people.
this is old fashion and not profetional desoldering... they is a great risk to damage the board.... i did this a million times, and always i was having a board damage..
you can use this method with smaler ic. like 8pin or 16pin.
yes this guy sucks at soldering but thats not a burn, thats the flux that was on top that he didnt get off watch before the "burn" appears you can see a glob of it chillin there and the heat from the soldering iron caused it to liquify
@P3rfectRunx24 You pull the RAM to replace it with bigger RAM (homebrew apps can make use of this). It comes stock with 64mb, most mods I've seen go to 128mb.
I never knew the 'L' in Solder was silent. Incredible. Oh and I guess there's an invisible but audible extra 'D' in there too, making it sound like 'Sodder'.
@shadoskill You seem to be implying there's no such thing as silent letters. If so, you not only suck at English, but general literacy of any language since every language I've come accross uses them.
If you don't wanna buy a proper SMT rework station, get some chipquik. It's pretty cheap and you can use it with a regular old soldering iron. A lot less hassle and danger of destroying things.
much better do it with hot air gun, if you force -like you do- anything from behind the pins in order to "break" the weld, it is more likely to get the pad and the via unstuck from pcb, broken or even worse a pin to break of the chip.
@Bopkasen Wow... what a weak joke lol... Sadly no soldering experience so I wouldn't want to follow a mod because I woild most likely fail 3 times in a row...
hahaha, hear those "pops" when he stuffs the needle under the pins? hahaha, that's the kind of sound you often hear when you just lifted a pad off the pcb. LOL. Never, ever rip a pad off it's land. Use some god damned fields metal to lower the melting point of the solder if you can't afford proper smt rework equipment.
This guy fails at desoldering. 1. Never use a quetip to apply flux (The cotton can bind on the leads), 2. Never use ribben to desolder quad sided chips (this causes way to much thermal stress aswell as major risks of binding and damageing leads), 3. NEVER and i mean NEVER pray leads up off surface mounting (that was just stright epic fail right there).
Wish I would have read your comments before I followed this video. I just ripped the pads off of the board and now my router is worthless. God how depressing.
If your going to do surface mount work i highly suggest a hotair rework station aswell as the correct head size for the chip you will be removeing. i believe sparkfun sells a cheap rework station. But ya in general never use wick's in general for Surface mount work. Fluxing aswell was a generaly bad idea, fluxing the leads in general is for mounting not desoldering. Solder wick is primarly only useful for DIP chips and should never apply flux to the leads its counter productive.
@Lokivoid Then why do manufacturers tell you to use a Qtip?
The correct spelling is "RIBBON". The correct spelling is "DAMAGING". The correct spelling is "PRY". You, Lokivoid, can't even spell when you have the internet? You are epic fail.
Link me the manufacturers specc's for installation and repair procedure, so i can see where it says to use a household Q-tip. Also grammar and typeing ability have no effect on the understanding of proper soldering and desoldering procedure for surface mount components. That point aside no manufacturer will tell you to use a household q-tip for flux application, Its always a medical grade stick swab, pen or brush. They never say use a household q-tip with lose cotton fibers.
If I were to do this, and I doubt I ever will, I would use chipquick (go to curiousinventor) and a lotta flux. Yes, it can be done, but practice on old broken down junk and see if it's worth the time to learn the technique. :)
For the dumb fuck above, this is about REMOVING ram, and a day after I posted my last comment, I found out that in case you have a dead Xbox, you can remove the RAM from it and solder it to another one.
This is a "last resort" to removing a part like this. If you're not careful, you'll rip traces right off the board.
Either spend $500 to $2500 on a rework station -OR- use a tiny torch with the "heat shrink/SMD" nozzle attached and work your way around the part. (that costs about $25)
I've removed hundreds of chips using the torch pen method and really only trashed a board or two by stupidity.
DON'T USE A HEAT GUN. You'll damage components beyond the area you're working on.
While I personally wouldn't use a heat gun to remove these chips, it can be done just so long as youre really careful and know the characteristics of your heat gun by practicing first. To shield the surrounding areas from the heat (you mainly want to protect the capacitors), you can use aluminum foil. Like I mentioned before, I personally wouldn't use a heat gun to perform surface mount work, or a torch pen for that matter, but I have seen it done successfully on more than one occasion.
Also, a decent hot air rework station (at least for casual DIY'ers) can be had for much less than $500-$2500 dollars.
You can pick up a decent 850+ clone off of the interwebs for around $100-$150, and if youre weary about buying a chinese knock off, a really nice Weller rework station can be found for about $300 off of eBay. I have a Aoyue 968 3-in-1 that I use just about everyday and I absolutely love it. Costing only $160, it just about paid for its self the first time I used it.
stupid metod for remove a chip memory just use the presice tool and that is all you need with a hot air station, nothing more, but you are very complicate and very dangerous technique
the needle method works, I got an entire ram chip off with just 2 broken legs, I'm about to attempt it again on a differant motherboard here in a second, hope it works :)
Just bought a 1.1 motherboard for 10 bucks. I heard that EBGames shops in US will now refuse used Xbox1 even if perfectly functional. It will makes theses upgrade opportunity for nothing.
oh, its risky, i think it would be safer to use a medical needle of proper diameter end slide it in while heating and lifting every pin separetly in sequence - less force and clean
Part of my job is to rework PCB's and hot air gun is bay FAR the best way to desolder SMT devices on a budget. Either that or an infrared rework station. I would never, ever do it this way, sorry mate :(.
OMG! u r the best for desoldering!
oijusti 1 week ago
i wouldn't call this desoldering.... more like How to break your xbox the 'difficult way'
Krazymoe5 4 weeks ago
This will life all the legs up and destroy the board. WTF dude. Y cant you use a hot air station? The cheapest chinese one would do much better than this. SHAME ON YOU
OfficialTronxKid 1 month ago
Why would you do this serious question
Keanudabeast 2 months ago
good way to pull pads up
hilltop7 2 months ago
Man I tried this method on a Xbox south bridge and ended up breaking a leg on the ic and removing the traces and also the pads where the pins meet can you please help me
savagecabbage9 2 months ago
You know how to solder a ram chip... but can't afford a better than 240p camera? o.O
That's hard to believe.
thelegendbullet937 3 months ago
@thelegendbullet937 this was recorded in 04
stilts07 3 months ago 21
@stilts07 but uploaded on 06?? wtf...kinda sketchy but i liked the vid thanx...
icekilla95 2 months ago
@thelegendbullet937 idiot!!!!! i guess you didn't get the video point!!
vze4p6c2 3 months ago
@vze4p6c2
Lawl, you got SO mad... that was funny
binaryman937 3 months ago
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vze4p6c2 3 months ago
@thelegendbullet937
That doesn't make any sense at all.
CagedTurkey 3 months ago
@CagedTurkey
He doesn't make any sense at all.
binaryman937 3 months ago
@thelegendbullet937
Other than the fact that the video is old, what does knowing how to solder have ANYTHING to do how much money you have? No, don't tell me "because you get a job"
DOTiSOalt 1 month ago
@DOTiSOalt
It's just natural to infer that someone who knows how to work with technology would only purchase quality components.
thelegendbullet937 1 month ago
@thelegendbullet937
By your logic the uploader would own a RED EPIC by now since it is one of the best cinematography cameras in the market. But do you honestly think he can afford one?
DOTiSOalt 1 month ago
@DOTiSOalt
Did I say the Best products? No, I said Quality products. Read before replying please.
thelegendbullet937 1 month ago
@thelegendbullet937
Your point is still invalid. If you don't have the money to spare, you can't afford to buy "quality products". Simple as that.
DOTiSOalt 1 month ago
@DOTiSOalt
*sigh* Now you're just trying to start an argument.
I don't have time instigating for trolls like you.
I'm done explaining my logic to someone who simply wont hear logic itself.
thelegendbullet937 1 month ago
@thelegendbullet937 yo bullet i can use my troll techniques on him if you want me to he'll be in a bodybag by the time im done with him LOL
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thelegendbullet937 1 month ago
@thelegendbullet937
Calling others who is saying you're wrong does not make you right. Any camera that shoots higher than SD back in the early 00s costs just as much as a RED EPIC today. Do you honestly think you can afford that?
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tahir6nazir98 3 days ago
just use chip quick solder. much easyer
matthewtchernev123 4 months ago
That's real cool
But I would like you to post a video how to put it back?
Thanks
MAIMPORT 5 months ago
@MAIMPORT actually, putting it back is less dangerous and fairly easy. Clean the pads but make sure there is still a bit of fusible alloy on them, apply flux (rosin), position the chip on pads, and solder two opposing pins on the diagonal of the chip, then slide the soldering iron over the pins and check with magnifying glass. Here is a video with a TSOP-66 to give you an idea: youtube.com/watch?v=_2vnJyRuq98
expert3vision 4 months ago
GG RAM
Henbane0 5 months ago
use some low temp solder instead
aradioactivedonut 5 months ago
where did you get the wick stuff?
JDTV1995 6 months ago
@JDTV1995 desoldering wick ebay it or go anywhere
Hyzing 5 months ago
@JDTV1995 Radio shack.
oPhrenetiK 5 months ago
This was made about 5 years ago... decongestant and allergy meds were invented since then... how about a redo on the video taking into account these factors?
cloudsifter11 6 months ago in playlist removing ram
WHY WOULD YOU DO THIS?! I understand modding but the cpu and motherboard are made for the ram,where are you gonna get another?
supercaleb08 7 months ago
@supercaleb08 from a ram memory, or buying it...
And.... it would be good for running more programs on the xbox going full!
bocatablanco 7 months ago
@supercaleb08 O but how do you find the ram?
supercaleb08 6 months ago
A bit sloppy i just watched another video doing the same type of work where they used a low heat solder to remove same type of chip and lo and behold a q-tip was used, i give an A for effort here since this was done several years ago, by the way why didnt i see a response did the xbox survive this? or did i miss it on the 17 pages of response, personally i would have used the needle and the heat at same time desolder later gently pop them up as the heat let the solder go, not proper, job done?
kotcher69 7 months ago
This is not the "proper" way to remove a TQFP package, but it appears to work well and I love his creativity!
electronicsjunk 8 months ago
This was a perfect video of what NOT to do when soldering/de-soldering.
TheGoldenAge7777 8 months ago
Please take this video down, although you may have been successful here and I wish you luck, folk following your procedure will likely either damage their chip, board or both.
There are a few different and effective techniques when working with SMD components, but I'm sorry, this is not one of them.
orbiter8 9 months ago
Xbox is working?
LU8HRW 10 months ago
Poor and incorrect method. Actually the easiest way is with a Heat gun and tweezers. Two minutes, then remove solder with wick, replace chip and resolder
TheLaptopDoctor 11 months ago
why the fuck i should take the RAM of my XBOX 360
TheUltimateXboxGamer 11 months ago
@TheUltimateXboxGamer who ever said anything about xbox 360's? this is for xbox's. and its to upgrade the ram to 128mb.
dballs442 11 months ago
@TheUltimateXboxGamer You are a fucking IDIOT
pitbob82 10 months ago
why all this i have head for this product are you in usa old fashion
vzarou 11 months ago
Your soldering tip looks like shit.
mshekleton 11 months ago
1:45, uhh, what the hell are you doing?
joby613 1 year ago
@stilts07 Why you upload HowTo training videos if you dont have even the slightest idea of what you are doing?? the fact tht you watched some soldering videos doesnt make you experienced not even trained... to teach something you must be much above the level of that you try to teach...
Your videos will harm most people that dont know nothing about soldering like you... buying from ebay an solder iron and some flux doesnt make you an electrician.... nor a craftsman...
Emeengor 1 year ago
@Emeengor I'm an electrician. It's not that damned hard. We certified everyone at work in manufacturing with a 2-hour soldering course, 90 minutes of it wasnt needed. Just shut up. How are his videos harming anyone?
CalicoatMaker 1 year ago
@CalicoatMaker To answer like that you must be a 2 week training and online certification electrician........ there are 21398129038120983 reasons for this video to be far away from being a training video or atleast a how to...
some of these: 1 there could be made shortcuts by using cotton with something glossy because cotton hair stick to the glossy material or even with liquid flux...
2: he destroys the chip wiith such a clumsy handling 3: he overheats everything... and more.. no char left
Emeengor 1 year ago 16
@Emeengor you dumb ass 1 cotton isn't conductive 2 the chip had to be removed for a new one I guess so it doesn't care if he destroys the chip 3 and what is he overheating then, it isn't the SMD resistor at the side because the solder on that component didn't even melt and if the chip is overheating... it doesn't care because he is removing it.
MrJANTJE123 1 year ago
@MrJANTJE123 no he's removing to double the ram on another xbox's mb. you need good condition ram chips from another xbox mb. cant be damaged.
dballs442 11 months ago
@dballs442 didn't now that
MrJANTJE123 11 months ago
@MrJANTJE123 1 it doesnt need to be conductive (which at some low scale it is) it gets between the leeds and the connection and also is leads some solder to flow on it. last but not least memory nands are very sensitive to heat.. also scratching your board or cold solder isnt a good idea either
Emeengor 2 weeks ago
@Emeengor 0:46 yea you can see the silicon melting on the chip -_- iron wayyyyyy to hot and heated for to long???
TrilbyArts 1 month ago
How well does your xbox work after this...
Anyways, the reason he is (attempting) to tho this is because the Xbox had 64mb of ram in it, and on most of them there are spots for extra ram. If you remove the RAM from one and put it in the other you can have up to 128mb and then use it to watch higher definition video, MAME, or run Linux on it. It's basically reusing old electronics.
TheAv8torguy 1 year ago
you mic is clipping...
You didn't record that with an xbox MIC did you?
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When you want to move up IC pins use soldering michine and move up all IC pins, if you do it with soldering michine this tactic is good for replace IC when you have no air hot.
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tip768 1 year ago
fail...
XTYNoLuck 1 year ago
you just fucked your xbox.
use hot air! before, protect your components surrounding the chip.
Burn189 1 year ago
stop misleading for god sake, You need a hot air
nicki19781978 1 year ago
too right never use this vid as a demo this is not how to do it never ever copy this vid you will just make a mess
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wwwtotalitaerde 1 year ago
never nver pry, you will ruin the trace
ventureelect 1 year ago 2
i just used a blowtorch. but xbox broke.
themoviekidownz 1 year ago 25
@themoviekidownz lol
stilts07 3 months ago
@themoviekidownz maybe u shud have tried a nuclear bomb worked perfect on my xbox
ANNOYINGGAM3RZ 1 day ago
Now ur xbox is realy fucked up xd Or was he allready?,thats the question
sideshowbob8 1 year ago
damn your stupid.
Julzilla 1 year ago
whynwould you do this what is the point
littleohah 1 year ago
ya exactly u guys make ur own vids before u start bitching. cause we are not all computer nerds that know everything.
5937824 1 year ago
This is the poor mans way of doing it. The rich man will have a rework/reballing hot air station like a AOYUE 2702A+ or a T870A BGA IRDA Welder Infrared Heating Rework Station.
goosedizzel 1 year ago
i have a dead 1.3 ..can i remove it and put it on my 1.6 ?..not personaly since i don't know shit about soldering/desoldering
xelbaga1987 1 year ago
I think it's just better to go to some electronics repair guys who own professional hardware so they can desolder the chip instead of risking costly damages.
jpelczar 1 year ago
Don't try this at home! :-/
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Do not do it in such a way destroy PCB
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kiemot 1 year ago
You suck at electronics.
As you are prying those soldered legs away from the board, you are pulling the actual copper pads off the laminate. Wicking the joints doesn't desolder a chip. Use a hot air station.
davidjereb 1 year ago
If you going to just ram a pin to lift up the leads why dont you heat them with the iron at the same time instead of using a braid. Seems like you have more of a chance lifting a pad your way. Or just used a heat gun like most people.
sqweeks85 1 year ago
this is old fashion and not profetional desoldering... they is a great risk to damage the board.... i did this a million times, and always i was having a board damage..
you can use this method with smaler ic. like 8pin or 16pin.
trexagireuopoulos 1 year ago
wow, soooooooo dumb!
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Try it an a Hairdryer, or an electronic hot plate with thermal controll!
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xdaemoon 1 year ago
Hey man!
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xdaemoon 1 year ago
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Javiscrip 1 year ago
do only look at the side of the chip from 0:43 to o:57 the side of the chip melted (-: whitch means he sucks at soldering and fails hard !!
sebastian12f 1 year ago
yes this guy sucks at soldering but thats not a burn, thats the flux that was on top that he didnt get off watch before the "burn" appears you can see a glob of it chillin there and the heat from the soldering iron caused it to liquify
thrasha666 1 year ago
this is hilarious, this guy works for Xbox, is the most stupid thng i've seen in my live
ecoidea1 1 year ago
Why would you need to remove the RAM from your xbox?
and to that question, how much RAM does your xbox even have?
P3rfectRunx24 1 year ago
@P3rfectRunx24 You pull the RAM to replace it with bigger RAM (homebrew apps can make use of this). It comes stock with 64mb, most mods I've seen go to 128mb.
GTTeancum 1 year ago
To get xbox linux
MachintoshCJ 1 year ago
loll this is old fashioned soldering... omgg look at the screwdriver.. do u need a hammer too ??
richagha 1 year ago
I never knew the 'L' in Solder was silent. Incredible. Oh and I guess there's an invisible but audible extra 'D' in there too, making it sound like 'Sodder'.
You learn something new every day.
unrealeck 1 year ago
@unrealeck whats the point of silent letters?
shadoskill 1 year ago
@shadoskill You seem to be implying there's no such thing as silent letters. If so, you not only suck at English, but general literacy of any language since every language I've come accross uses them.
unrealeck 1 year ago
@unrealeck I am not saying there is no such thing as them buy no real reason to use them.
shadoskill 1 year ago
@shadoskill lol wtf. So do you pronounce silent letters?
unrealeck 1 year ago
If you don't wanna buy a proper SMT rework station, get some chipquik. It's pretty cheap and you can use it with a regular old soldering iron. A lot less hassle and danger of destroying things.
ControlCardPin 1 year ago
Please redub without the sniffles! It's driving me crazy!
Donaldo 1 year ago 3
WTF?? eso no se hace así!
Felixls 1 year ago 2
I think you can take out with ak 47 7.62x39 xD
SuperThebullet 1 year ago
much better do it with hot air gun, if you force -like you do- anything from behind the pins in order to "break" the weld, it is more likely to get the pad and the via unstuck from pcb, broken or even worse a pin to break of the chip.
Wutsu77 1 year ago
1:50 Don't do this because you can (will) damage the circuit paths!
Moreover ground youself while working on electronic components, especially on memory chips and CPUs.
And by the way: NEVER EVER use any screwdrivers or knives on a SMD chip :-)))
Kosekans 1 year ago
@Kosekans He just a teenager. He doesn't need to be grounded. *wink *wink Get my joke.
Bopkasen 1 year ago
@Bopkasen Wow... what a weak joke lol... Sadly no soldering experience so I wouldn't want to follow a mod because I woild most likely fail 3 times in a row...
Ugh i'll stick with cisco router : )
dreadsteed 1 year ago
@dreadsteed
It was a pun. It was a good laugh those.
Bopkasen 1 year ago
@Bopkasen yeah I understood the joke thats why I felt like headshotting myself
= ) It was a good pun though just not very subtle I guess..
dreadsteed 1 year ago
If your NOT ESD grounded, this chip is toast..lol OMG!!
radionut63 2 years ago
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WTF u FUCKING BASTERD THIS IS NOT A FACKEEEEGN RAM U FUCK
paccopco 2 years ago
yes it is. This is on an XBOX.
cheapskatevideo 2 years ago
OMG
Radmir1989 2 years ago
hahaha, hear those "pops" when he stuffs the needle under the pins? hahaha, that's the kind of sound you often hear when you just lifted a pad off the pcb. LOL. Never, ever rip a pad off it's land. Use some god damned fields metal to lower the melting point of the solder if you can't afford proper smt rework equipment.
koaftder 2 years ago 3
whats the point of doing this?
Fruna123 2 years ago
not the best way, but it works thou it takes time? Heat gun is the best...
philip2go 2 years ago
he didn't complete the vid so theirs signs of fail in it...
freakshowboy9 2 years ago
You don't have any idea, what you doing there, do you?
Kosekans 2 years ago
shut up hater .......
kingofyou10 2 years ago
stupid method never try it on your computer !!!
better method to remove smc is using hot air gun
sigmageneral 2 years ago 3
"no bread to eat, let them eat cake!"
Not every one has hot air gun. So don't tell people that no bread to eat, let them eat cake.
nananese 2 years ago
"Not every one has hot air gun."
'Not every one' should be removing TQFP packaged chips.
IBeHoey 2 years ago 19
Ding ding ding we have a winner.
Lokivoid 2 years ago
shut your face, this is a perfectly legitamate method
samljer 2 years ago
He is just showing his way of changing a integrated, open your minds please. But in 2006, now is so different.
LeonardoRomeroP 2 years ago
rofl - wie ein Schmied
liddll 2 years ago 2
This guy fails at desoldering. 1. Never use a quetip to apply flux (The cotton can bind on the leads), 2. Never use ribben to desolder quad sided chips (this causes way to much thermal stress aswell as major risks of binding and damageing leads), 3. NEVER and i mean NEVER pray leads up off surface mounting (that was just stright epic fail right there).
Lokivoid 2 years ago 107
Put a video about how to do it... it's very easy to critic someone's work
ruboot 2 years ago
100's of these videos already exist. Several of them can be found just by looking over at the Related Video section.
FAIL
IBeHoey 2 years ago
Wish I would have read your comments before I followed this video. I just ripped the pads off of the board and now my router is worthless. God how depressing.
pdxaudi 2 years ago
If your going to do surface mount work i highly suggest a hotair rework station aswell as the correct head size for the chip you will be removeing. i believe sparkfun sells a cheap rework station. But ya in general never use wick's in general for Surface mount work. Fluxing aswell was a generaly bad idea, fluxing the leads in general is for mounting not desoldering. Solder wick is primarly only useful for DIP chips and should never apply flux to the leads its counter productive.
Lokivoid 2 years ago
is good idea if you use hot air gun
Albelektronik 2 years ago
@Lokivoid
thx wikipediajoe
sharki9876 1 year ago
@Lokivoid yep, you are totaly right champ, that guy failed
JeyBee66 1 year ago
@Lokivoid
Make you own video and post as a video response
szlamx 1 year ago
@Lokivoid That's a HOW DON'T instead of HOW TO video...
hydrogenix 1 year ago
@Lokivoid Then why do manufacturers tell you to use a Qtip?
The correct spelling is "RIBBON". The correct spelling is "DAMAGING". The correct spelling is "PRY". You, Lokivoid, can't even spell when you have the internet? You are epic fail.
CalicoatMaker 1 year ago
@CalicoatMaker
Link me the manufacturers specc's for installation and repair procedure, so i can see where it says to use a household Q-tip. Also grammar and typeing ability have no effect on the understanding of proper soldering and desoldering procedure for surface mount components. That point aside no manufacturer will tell you to use a household q-tip for flux application, Its always a medical grade stick swab, pen or brush. They never say use a household q-tip with lose cotton fibers.
Lokivoid 1 year ago
If I were to do this, and I doubt I ever will, I would use chipquick (go to curiousinventor) and a lotta flux. Yes, it can be done, but practice on old broken down junk and see if it's worth the time to learn the technique. :)
Ghoststar2009 2 years ago
this guy is either stupid or very smart
yuhcgte 2 years ago 17
@yuhcgte im sure how knows now... is he still stupid? sounds pretty smart for a teenager.
AppleRepairNewOrlean 1 year ago
@yuhcgte stupid i guess...
bazengao 1 year ago
he is a turd never copy this video
needingweednow 1 year ago
many ask why you would do this
the xbox 1 only had 64MB of RAM, people used to upgrade to 128MB of RAM, because they probably used them for linux boxes.
you'd desolder the RAM chip, from a dead motherboard, and resolder it to a working xbox 1 motherboard :)
armanm82a1 2 years ago 2
Why in the holy fuck would I want to do this?
Joroshira 2 years ago 2
for the dumb fucks who dont know why. more ram mean faster modded xbox allowing them to play games more seamlessly.
2dumb2care 2 years ago
For the dumb fuck above, this is about REMOVING ram, and a day after I posted my last comment, I found out that in case you have a dead Xbox, you can remove the RAM from it and solder it to another one.
Joroshira 2 years ago
yeah im a dumb fuck cause i know why people do shit.
2dumb2care 2 years ago
man that is not the proper way to remove a microchip from PCB.
CodenameNameless 2 years ago 5
you fuck the ram!!! lol
guiloberto 2 years ago
why would you do this?
AvianAzn 2 years ago
yea thats what i was about to say
maybe for a modchip idk
wynston05613 2 years ago
This is a "last resort" to removing a part like this. If you're not careful, you'll rip traces right off the board.
Either spend $500 to $2500 on a rework station -OR- use a tiny torch with the "heat shrink/SMD" nozzle attached and work your way around the part. (that costs about $25)
I've removed hundreds of chips using the torch pen method and really only trashed a board or two by stupidity.
DON'T USE A HEAT GUN. You'll damage components beyond the area you're working on.
pmgodfrey 2 years ago
While I personally wouldn't use a heat gun to remove these chips, it can be done just so long as youre really careful and know the characteristics of your heat gun by practicing first. To shield the surrounding areas from the heat (you mainly want to protect the capacitors), you can use aluminum foil. Like I mentioned before, I personally wouldn't use a heat gun to perform surface mount work, or a torch pen for that matter, but I have seen it done successfully on more than one occasion.
IBeHoey 2 years ago
Also, a decent hot air rework station (at least for casual DIY'ers) can be had for much less than $500-$2500 dollars.
You can pick up a decent 850+ clone off of the interwebs for around $100-$150, and if youre weary about buying a chinese knock off, a really nice Weller rework station can be found for about $300 off of eBay. I have a Aoyue 968 3-in-1 that I use just about everyday and I absolutely love it. Costing only $160, it just about paid for its self the first time I used it.
IBeHoey 2 years ago
"and over here, we're going to paint a happy little tree.
Thatll be our little secret."
IBeHoey 2 years ago 3
stupid metod for remove a chip memory just use the presice tool and that is all you need with a hot air station, nothing more, but you are very complicate and very dangerous technique
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skierplaterandy 2 years ago
Thas really no good idea.. =o( ..
I have bought an infrared soldering station from PDR (Solderlight 810/620).. but this solution is very expensive..
PoPoWackel 2 years ago
baita tecnico viu...
ynsanno 2 years ago
WOW that looks scary, just do it with hot air and DONT bend pins
rasz 2 years ago
what is the purpose of this?
darkhaduo2 2 years ago
the needle method works, I got an entire ram chip off with just 2 broken legs, I'm about to attempt it again on a differant motherboard here in a second, hope it works :)
penguin5822 2 years ago
Thats a pikey way of doing things! You will lift the tracks!
salfordman 2 years ago 2
Looks like it a RAM. Look carefully, you can see a set of termination resistors. 16 of them makes it 16 bit bus
tronictitan 3 years ago
Just bought a 1.1 motherboard for 10 bucks. I heard that EBGames shops in US will now refuse used Xbox1 even if perfectly functional. It will makes theses upgrade opportunity for nothing.
Balthasar00101 3 years ago
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thas not ram lol
szpara16 3 years ago
Yeah it its.
Jak3Mac 3 years ago
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someone smart please help me
im bored on cam ZP
Aliciaisabeast 3 years ago
Yes!! You said it BUJNOS... I use a thin spinal needle to pop up pins... I use GOOT DESOLDERING WICK and a CHISEL TIP @340 degrees..
tronictitan 3 years ago
oh, its risky, i think it would be safer to use a medical needle of proper diameter end slide it in while heating and lifting every pin separetly in sequence - less force and clean
bujnos 3 years ago
Just wondering... what kind of solder gun is that. I mean like in watts.....15...30...40??
I have a 15 watts and 35 watts solder thingy. Will the 35 work better in doing this job?
ichigo3223 3 years ago
amazes me how people miss the L out of solder when they say it, soddering is not the same as Soldering.
jiggawoo 3 years ago 2
Must be an American thing, everyone i know in Australia pronounces it with an L.
jasonithompson 3 years ago 5
Definitely an American thing, i've never pronounced it with an L but i know it has one. Thats the way i've always heard it.
jdsanchez473 3 years ago
with this "pen" you risk tearing off some contact pads of the PCB. desolder SMD components without any mechanical force!
boing4000 3 years ago
Part of my job is to rework PCB's and hot air gun is bay FAR the best way to desolder SMT devices on a budget. Either that or an infrared rework station. I would never, ever do it this way, sorry mate :(.
stiffcookie 3 years ago