MCBtv - 50 Caliber Drop over Distance Testing

[hellfighter22]

similer question here: I am of the thought that the two rounds should be shot at different speeds in order to maintain equal number of breaks. For field use I would think that .68 should be fired at 280fps and .50 should be fired at 310fps. What speed variation do you think should be used to maintain the same drop at 75 feet?

[VetteWay2Fast]

Pretty basic physics, a projectile fired at the same speed with more mass will travel farther. 68 cal. has a little more paint/shell and is a little heavier. Great Vid! 5/5

[AGDRetro]

Carter I would love to see you guys do this test again, but with some quality 68 caliber. The stuff you guys used looks like the "sub-par" junk we had up at Castle this fall, those things were anything but round! Dimpled to all heck and the seams were just terrible! I know 68 can do better!

[mixtapemoe]

nice test

[MaxxxyMaxxx6]

i dont get whats so wrong with .68 cal...

[mixtapemoe]

jus the fact that its much more paint which costs more... but i like 68 better the 50 cal

[lollipopsurfer]

thats enough distance for me not to even consider 50cal... ever tried to make a pack shot across field....with 50 cal it aint gonna happen...are these guys even players?

[darkstararmorlight9]

yeah they play alot of scenario and stuff so they know about long shots im sure thats all scenario ball is

[paintballtennisman]

for accuracy this wasnt shot outside so wind was not an issue. I think if this was done in any sort of wind the accuracy of the 50 cal would have been much worse.

[gerglmuff]

1/4 inch measurements with 2 inch diameter splats eh?

[painthappy]

Sure.. The center of the paintball is quite obvious actually when it hits.

[gerglmuff]

.... right ....

having measured easily a couple hundred paintball splats, thats a bit unrealistic to claim resolution that low.

[ENINNALP]

STFU troll

[mblwindenergy]

Hey guys good videos on the 50 caliber!! All I would have to say is why did you not shoot more of each ball in you test? Shooting three balls is not really a difinitive test and is not giving the paintballs a fair shot.

[painthappy]

It wasn't an accuracy test, so we didn't go for a large number of shots.

We're doing an accuracy test this weekend and will shoot 30 shots of each.

[thedoobie1]

How do you plan to take into account for paint to barrel match?

[2camjohn]

Pait to barrel match affects both guns the same so its factored out.

[thedoobie1]

I disagree.

[2camjohn]

thedoobie,

If you disagree please post your reasoning.

You think paint to barel match affects one calibre differently to the other.

Please explain why? (so I can laugh at you)

[thedoobie1]

If i have some .68 and it is really .683 and i am shooting it through a barrel that is .693 it will not be as accurate as being shot through a barrel that is properly sized at .683.

[2camjohn]

I certainly am doing...

The whole part about distance and accuracy... Priceless...

You have basicly admitted that paint to barrel match affects both calibers.

Read my post again. Thats exactly why its not a problem.

There are obviously tolerances, which is why you take an average.

But the variation in paintball diameter affects both guns. So for the purpose of comparison its the same.

[thedoobie1]

It does affect both calibers, but if the tolernaces are different between the two during the test it is not a level playing field and therefore not an accurate test. You have to try to eliminate differences between the tests. Just ignoring them does not make them go away. How can you you have an "accuracy" test based on averages? If I did that at Sniper School, i never would have made my 1000 yard shot.

Intelligent coversation. Please eliminate the "agglet-isms". I can get that on 'Nation.

[2camjohn]

Im glad you have accepted paint tolerance affects both calibers. Thats progress at least :)

But your still not getting it.

Alas I dont have the time nor the inclination to to teach you scientific methodology and paintball ballistics from first principles.

Its cool that you go to sniper school but trying to apply real gun ballistics to paintball is your first mistake.

Also Aggeltism? Some insult from pbnation no doubt.

I wasnt the one who marked your comments as spam. No need for insults.

[thedoobie1]

WOW! What a high horse!

I quit. Logic is not reaching you up there and I am not going to have a battle of wits with an un-armed man.

[WEEston]

You could shoot 100 balls each and get the same results. They where all on the same level with no outliers on the z axis. I don't know how they can be sure the gun is perfectly level (on a gun stand that is). I'm not arguing with the results at all I think they are dead on. I would have liked to see chronograph readings for each shot though.

[Spitlebug]

Too small of a sampling size. You couldn't possibly get an accurate confidence interval from that.

Moreover, in a drop test you shouldn't comment on grouping. It should only be relational to the Z axis or elevation.

[eswteam]

yeah, a larger sample please! but other than that a good video Mr Carter :)

and I can't wait for cockerpunks test

[pokersource]

sorry, my bad. i just read the video description. pls ignore my previous comment. thanks!

[pokersource]

great job, guys! i'm a big fan of your work. could you perhaps do the same test but with better or newer .68 paint this time? the .50 caliber paint WAS new. thanks!

[soccerguy2433]

thanks for doing these videos.  A larger sample size would have been nice.

[califlipinfornia]

Well done :)

[painthappy]

Please keep in mind folks... This was NOT an accuracy test.

We used old 68 paint, and a gun with a pretty bad regulator on it. :(

It was only to prove that our graphs, which showed that 50 dropped at a faster rate than 68, was indeed a fact.

[mblwindenergy]

There are other 50 caliber capsules available. Why don't you try comparing two different types of 50 cal and a good mid grade paint. from what I have seen of the Milsim caps they are a mid grade paint.

[BJamesBond700]

thanks a lot for doing all of this!